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Julie Jancius | The Angel Medium: Trusting Your Intuition, Following Divine Signs, and Building a Life You Love · Mama Making Podcast

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SPEAKER_01: Hello and welcome to the Mama Making Podcast, where we share stories of moms making impact in their own lives and in the world around them.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm Jessica, and each week I sit down with women who are building businesses, leading communities, shaping culture, and redefining what success looks like inside of motherhood.
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SPEAKER_01: Because motherhood does not have to stop your ambition, it can transform it.
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SPEAKER_01: Now let's get into it.
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SPEAKER_01: Hello everyone, and welcome to the Mama Making Podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Jessica.
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SPEAKER_01: If you're new, welcome.
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SPEAKER_01: If you're not new, then welcome back.
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SPEAKER_01: Today I am thrilled to have Julie Jansis on the podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: She's known as the Angel Medium and is a spiritual teacher, intuitive, energy healer, author, wife, mom who left a successful corporate career and built a thriving spiritual business on the other side of that leap.
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SPEAKER_01: She is the host of the top-ranked podcast Angels in Awakening and the founder of Angel Reiki School.
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SPEAKER_01: Julie's mission is grounded in one of conviction that every person is deeply supported, divinely guided, and capable of a life filled with miracles.
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SPEAKER_01: Julie, thanks for being here.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited to chat with you.
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SPEAKER_01: Jessica, it's such a blessing.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for having me.
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SPEAKER_01: Of course.
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SPEAKER_01: So tell us a little bit more about you, who you are, where you're from, whatever you're comfortable sharing.
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SPEAKER_01: All the things.
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SPEAKER_00: No, your intro is like so beautiful.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, so you and I, we live in Chicagoland, and all the things I'm working on TV show with the creator of the Long Island Medium, you know, and just doing the whole mom thing, family, running a business and not running it well because I'm doing about 70 hour weeks right now trying to get my book done that's gonna come out in early um 2027.
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SPEAKER_00: And uh yeah, it's just like life is full, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
2:01
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I totally feel that.
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SPEAKER_01: It's definitely full and chaotic, but so great.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, you wouldn't have it any other way, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Like we worked all of our lives and like our 20s, our 30s, and like we're here, we're doing it.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So tell me how did you go from corporate life to kind of building this big, beautiful life?
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SPEAKER_00: So I don't know that I did it well, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Sometimes when spirit is nudging you into a different direction in your life, you just kind of have this collapse or this breakdown to break through.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's definitely what happened with me.
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SPEAKER_00: I was like hearing these nudges from God Universe Source, and they weren't like saying, get up and leave your job.
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SPEAKER_00: What they were actually saying as I've been writing this book was much simpler.
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SPEAKER_00: It was just daydream.
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SPEAKER_00: Like you're done with this chapter, daydream about the next chapter.
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SPEAKER_00: And I wouldn't let myself do it because I thought I was supposed to be so grateful for the salary.
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SPEAKER_00: And I was on a trajectory to the top of my industry.
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SPEAKER_00: Like I have no doubt that I would have achieved that.
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SPEAKER_00: You ever get somewhere and you're like, okay, redirect, don't really want this anymore.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, I see the writing on the wall, been there, done that.
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SPEAKER_00: I kind of felt looking at like our grandparents' generation, our parents' generation, that you're just supposed to get into one career, you're supposed to stay there for forever, you're supposed to be like the good girl growing up and just get along.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, I have always heard from spirit.
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SPEAKER_00: I have always been highly, highly intuitive.
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SPEAKER_00: I started talking about angels and heaven when I was two years old.
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SPEAKER_00: And I know that voice very, very well.
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SPEAKER_00: And every single time I follow that voice within me, it leads to the biggest blessing of my entire life.
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SPEAKER_00: And so I knew that I was done with that chapter.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: Sometimes, Jessica, I don't know what's me being like a weirdo and like what's normal.
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SPEAKER_00: And I don't know if everybody feels this way or felt this way, but I really just thought, like I was saying, you're supposed to just get into one thing and stay in it because that is success.
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SPEAKER_00: But I also have a very journalistic background, very journalistic um skills training and interviewing, I guess you could say, between my sessions that I've done and people that I've interviewed, 10,000 to 15,000 people individually, just sitting with them one-on-one.
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SPEAKER_00: What I know, like, I know, like, I know is that God continually has you in chapters of your life.
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SPEAKER_00: And you could be the most successful at any one chapter, and yet that chapter is going to close and another one's going to open.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't care if you have the best business, you're the biggest musician, the biggest actress, the biggest anything.
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SPEAKER_00: That chapter of your life is going to close.
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SPEAKER_00: And who are you once it does?
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SPEAKER_00: I think a lot of people really resist that, right?
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SPEAKER_00: And I am definitely one of those people who is like, all right, God, if you're gonna take me into this next chapter, do it, kicking and screaming because I don't want to go.
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SPEAKER_00: And I also don't know if I'm weird in this or normal, but I've always thought to myself, well, is that the end?
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SPEAKER_00: You know, like when the chapter is closing and you get to the end, you're like, okay, well, then, you know, is my I used to think that in my 20s and 30s.
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SPEAKER_00: Then is my life over?
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SPEAKER_00: And am I gonna end because I did what I came here to do?
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SPEAKER_00: Do you remember that book, Purpose Driven Life, back in the day?
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: I would read that, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I would I would read that and be like, oh, then we just have like one purpose.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'd see that sitting in that title, we just have one purpose.
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SPEAKER_00: I didn't get that it's chapters.
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SPEAKER_00: Our entire life is a book and we have chapters.
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SPEAKER_00: And if you can be more forgiving of yourself and of God and how the just kind of the rules of this life work and just go, okay, they're gonna be chapters.
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SPEAKER_00: No matter how successful I am, God's gonna say good job and move me on.
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SPEAKER_00: It makes it a little bit more comfortable when you go, the writing's on the wall.
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SPEAKER_00: This chapter is ending.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm moving into something else.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know what that is.
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SPEAKER_00: I will say my 40-year-old self versus my 20-year-old self looks at it and goes, what surprises are here?
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SPEAKER_00: How is God gonna wow me?
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SPEAKER_00: Because it has gotten better and better and better, but it still makes me really nervous because that started to happen about a year and a half ago, where God's like, okay, you're moving into a next chapter, and I'm like, No, I don't want to go.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, but you have to listen to those internal nudges, otherwise, spirit is going to break you to make you into the next thing that you're supposed to come.
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SPEAKER_00: We're evolving.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And I would love today to touch on going with our gut, listening to our intuition, those internal nudges that you're talking about.
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SPEAKER_01: But I think what's important first is to kind of talk about the work that you do.
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SPEAKER_01: For those of us who are listening that haven't heard of spirit communication or intuitiveness, all the work that you do, tell us all about it.
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SPEAKER_00: So, first off, I preface and I'll just say, I don't think I fit with anybody, okay?
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SPEAKER_00: Because I grew up very highly religious Catholic, and then my parents divorced and raised in the mega church, and then all these gifts, and they are not very accepting of the gifts.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, but I wanted to be a priest, you know, growing up.
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SPEAKER_00: And I work with angels.
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SPEAKER_00: I've always seen angels, they are all around all the time.
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SPEAKER_00: And I don't understand how people can go, yes, I believe in angels, Julie, but no, I don't believe that you can talk to them.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, what?
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SPEAKER_00: You have the greatest tool in the entire world from God that is right here available to you that you can work with any single time.
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SPEAKER_00: And it makes your life so much easier.
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SPEAKER_00: They help so incredibly much.
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SPEAKER_00: And we're not gonna tap into it.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, what are we talking about?
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SPEAKER_00: So um I kind of help wherever people need help.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm very, very highly spiritual.
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SPEAKER_00: I actually still go to church because I feel like who heals the healer.
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SPEAKER_00: I just go for the energy healing every week and to kind of just tune in, it's my silent hour for the week.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, you do have angels, you do have loved ones on the other side.
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SPEAKER_00: And they're not just there sometimes, they're omnipresent.
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SPEAKER_00: You have a spirit team.
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SPEAKER_00: They want to guide you, direct you, protect you.
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SPEAKER_00: And if you talk to them, I promise it feels weird up at the beginning, but it doesn't after a while.
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SPEAKER_00: It gets a really, really great.
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SPEAKER_00: My girlfriend and I went out to lunch and she goes, I think I get what you've been telling me for a long time, Julie.
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SPEAKER_00: She's like, they're your best friend in your head.
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SPEAKER_00: They sound like your best friend.
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SPEAKER_00: And I go, exactly, exactly.
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SPEAKER_00: They are so encouraging, but you can learn how to tell the difference between what's your thoughts and what's them coming through.
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SPEAKER_00: And when you do, it just makes life really fun.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't go to my spirit team and go, send me this specific sign because the way that they can wow me, the way that they know me, is just huge.
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SPEAKER_00: And so I always go, How are you gonna wow me today?
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SPEAKER_00: How are you gonna surprise me today?
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SPEAKER_00: And then look for those surprises.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So how can we start to tap into that?
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SPEAKER_01: What are like, what are signs that we can tap into?
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SPEAKER_01: Like, how do we get into our, I mean, most of us moms and women are like constantly thinking brain.
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SPEAKER_01: How do we tap into this like spirit realm of things?
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so this is like, I think a really, really big thing too.
10:25
SPEAKER_00: So for those who aren't like looking at us maybe on YouTube, who are just listening, um, I feel like I'm your normal mom next door.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't resonate with dressing really woo-woo.
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SPEAKER_00: I like to dress in jeans and a blazer.
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SPEAKER_00: You we are on the go.
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SPEAKER_00: And so what I started to find is I've been reading spiritual books since I was in the early 90s, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Uh 94, 95.
10:49
SPEAKER_00: And I've read everything.
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SPEAKER_00: And the men are wonderful men, they're amazing, and they just don't get it all the time.
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SPEAKER_00: I think the one male spiritual teacher that I love more than anybody else is definitely Thomas Moore.
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SPEAKER_00: He writes from an incredible perspective.
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SPEAKER_00: All the other guys do not write from a perspective of being a mom, being a wife, owning a business, doing all the things.
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SPEAKER_00: And so I would read their stuff and I would try and fit my life into the box that they're showing me.
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SPEAKER_00: And it would be like me constantly feeling like I'm wrong or I'm bad because my life and what I'm feeling isn't adding up to what they're saying.
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SPEAKER_00: So I think that one of the things that you really have to look at is who are you interacting with on a spiritual level, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Because if the person doesn't have the life that you want to have, if they're of a dad who gets to take three months off and go write their book and not have responsibilities while they're doing it, that's a very different life.
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SPEAKER_00: Moms are doing everything for everyone.
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SPEAKER_00: And I don't think that God or the angels were like, mm, okay, now I see.
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SPEAKER_00: The only way that you're gonna be able to hear your intuition and connect with God is if you get quiet and you meditate every day.
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SPEAKER_00: BS, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Like I call BS on that because God looks out for everyone and everything.
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SPEAKER_00: So God knew that we were gonna be in this position.
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SPEAKER_00: I talk to God all the time.
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SPEAKER_00: I feel like um, my the as we've been pitching this TV show, the woman who created the Long Island Medium, she keeps telling everybody in these meetings, she gets signals of when the jeans are on sale at Nordstrom.
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SPEAKER_00: She gets signals of when, you know, there's a cute thing at Target.
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SPEAKER_00: And I do, like I listen in all the time, pile the angels into the car and go for a Target run.
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SPEAKER_00: But what it is is this.
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SPEAKER_00: I guess I could say it in this example.
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SPEAKER_00: The angels are gonna tell you what to do when.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't have to worry about it.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't have to stress about it.
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SPEAKER_00: So if I need to send an important email, which I do today, um, I was like worrying about it this morning, worrying about it right before we hopped on the call.
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SPEAKER_00: And God just like, put it aside.
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SPEAKER_00: Do not worry.
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SPEAKER_00: When it's time to send the email, it'll come to you.
13:22
SPEAKER_00: Now, have you ever sat down to send an email and you're like stressing about it and the words just aren't flowing, they're not coming out.
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SPEAKER_00: And so you start to take like maybe an hour plus to get this one stinking email done that should have taken like 50 seconds, right?
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SPEAKER_00: But then if you're in the flow and you just trust it, you go, God, today, when it's time for me, send that stinking email.
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SPEAKER_00: You tell me what is send that stinking email and I'll send it.
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SPEAKER_00: And then it, and then you just sit down and it really comes through.
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SPEAKER_00: That's how it makes your life easier.
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SPEAKER_00: So you stress about something and you go to God or your angels and you go, you tell me when to do this.
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SPEAKER_00: And God comes in and goes, Okay, now's the time.
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SPEAKER_00: And you're like, oh, done.
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SPEAKER_00: Don't have to stress.
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SPEAKER_00: I think that if we follow those patterns, those rhythms, and it's harder to do, I think then it's hard for me to do sometimes.
14:16
SPEAKER_00: I have to literally say, Julie, you teach this, give it over to the angels.
14:21
SPEAKER_01: You don't have to carry a carry it.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think as moms and women and business owners and whatever we have going on, we carry so much.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think that many of us are looking for signs that we're doing the right thing or we're on the right path, or our focus is in the right area.
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SPEAKER_01: What do you say to those of us who feel that way?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, first off, don't look at signs as a yes or no.
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SPEAKER_00: First, that's like one of the worst things that you can do because the sign is never a yes or no.
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SPEAKER_00: I'll teach you exactly, exactly what to look for as the yes or no.
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SPEAKER_00: What you're looking at with signs is just comfort.
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SPEAKER_00: Like signs are comfort.
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SPEAKER_00: When you follow those nudges up with actions that you're getting, they really, really do lead to miracles.
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SPEAKER_00: But I have talked to so many people who say, I got this sign, so I went and did this thing.
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SPEAKER_00: And they really didn't think, do I want the thing?
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SPEAKER_00: Do I align with the thing?
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SPEAKER_00: Is the thing right for me?
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SPEAKER_00: Just I I like people to go a little bit slower.
15:30
SPEAKER_00: And I feel energy also within my body.
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SPEAKER_00: So do you ever feel your energy highly expansive and highly contractive?
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SPEAKER_00: There's a really great tool, the angels say, that you can use to test this.
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SPEAKER_00: Turn on one of your favorite songs in the entire world in the car.
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SPEAKER_00: Rock out to it, put it on blast, and just feel from your heart center how much your energy radiates out and like expands, and it's just explosive, right?
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SPEAKER_00: And then turn on a song that you're like, not even that you don't like it, you cringe.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't like it so much, it's cringe worthy.
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SPEAKER_00: You contract and you just come back.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like your heart energy is a turtle that goes boop right back into its shell.
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SPEAKER_00: And that is what you want to think of.
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SPEAKER_00: So signs, think of them as comfort that lead to miracles.
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SPEAKER_00: Signs, you definitely want them.
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SPEAKER_00: They show you that God is working with you, that everything's gonna be okay.
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SPEAKER_00: They are definitely from God and the angels telling you you're on your path, we've got you.
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SPEAKER_00: But use expansion energy as a yes and contraction energy within your body as a no.
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SPEAKER_00: That's alignment.
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SPEAKER_00: I think we often use words and people are like, but what does that mean?
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SPEAKER_00: When you're in alignment, your energy feels vastly radiant and expansive when it's a yes, and your body knows as soon as something's a no.
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SPEAKER_00: Even if you're it's your neighbor who's like, hey, want to hang out this weekend, and you're like rattling off the 20 things in your head that you have to do, and you're like, no, I I want to hang with you, but I don't have the time.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's rain check it for July.
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SPEAKER_00: Say that.
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SPEAKER_00: Just communicate because that's what your body is telling you.
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SPEAKER_00: And if you more follow those signals, what I have found is if you follow the expansion and contractions within you and say yes and no based on that, wow, it is the littlest little things that turn into the hugest miracles in your life.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this is so like oddly resonant with me right now.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm definitely in a space where I'm focusing more on, I keep calling it it's just vibe, saying it's just vibes, but it's more than that.
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SPEAKER_01: It's it's focusing on alignment.
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SPEAKER_01: Does it feel right in my body to make this decision?
18:01
SPEAKER_01: Am I going with my intuition?
18:03
SPEAKER_01: Like, what is my gut saying?
18:05
SPEAKER_01: What is my first thought?
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's not the answer, but like listening to myself a little bit more, and then that like authenticity, does it feel right for me?
18:14
SPEAKER_01: And I think that I have been a very intuitive person for a long time, but have not allowed myself to tap into that until I started feeling like I have so much going on and none of it feels right.
18:29
SPEAKER_01: How do I reel this back in?
18:31
SPEAKER_01: How do I make sure that I'm choosing the right clients, that I'm choosing the right podcast guests that feel aligned and like feel good for me?
18:39
SPEAKER_01: And I that's why I'm so excited to have you on because I have seen the change in my own life and how I feel so much more confident and settled with the decisions I'm making and where whereas before I would make a decision and then just rack my brain about it for weeks, wondering if it was the right call.
18:59
SPEAKER_01: So I'm I would love more of us moms, women, business owners, to be able to tap more into that.
19:06
SPEAKER_01: And um I've just seen how beneficial it is to even just give a little attention to like, does this feel right?
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SPEAKER_01: Does this seem like the right thing?
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SPEAKER_01: Um, and for example, I I excuse me, I have a digital marketing company, a small boutique company, and took on a client that I really wanted to help, but from the first call, I was like, I don't know about this and didn't trust myself.
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SPEAKER_01: And that that experience was the th the thing that pushed me over to be like, okay, you need to listen to yourself.
19:39
SPEAKER_01: You need to listen to what your body is telling you, because it wound up being a really not good fit for me.
19:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
20:23
SPEAKER_00: Um, did you know your angels are saying to tell you specifically, Jessica, that your body will always feel the answer before you can possibly think the answer.
20:36
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if that's because like the way that information travels at the light of speed, it like hits the cellular level before it can become a thought within the mind.
20:47
SPEAKER_00: There's gotta be something to that.
20:49
SPEAKER_00: But what I can tell you is it's a hundred percent.
20:52
SPEAKER_00: Like you will always have that gut feeling within your body before you get a thought.
20:59
SPEAKER_00: And if you trust the gut first, that's why teachers are always like, trust the first thing, trust the first thing.
21:08
SPEAKER_00: They're they're really telling you what I just said.
21:11
SPEAKER_00: Like it's gonna hit your body first.
21:14
SPEAKER_00: You have to know that.
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SPEAKER_00: So there are two business meetings that, like, I'm just saying a memory of right now is a vision, and two out of thousands and thousands and thousands of these meetings, and spirit was really, really heavy where I knew, and I knew it first, these people were beautiful and just they probably have the best hearts, but the vibrations of our two energies working together was not gonna be a fit.
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SPEAKER_00: There are have been times where I just knew people were going to kind of backstab you in a way or betray you, and uh I would push past it because I would be like, they're so warm and they're so smiley, and they seem exactly like me, and there's no way.
22:03
SPEAKER_00: And it was awful.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: Those two experiences were two of the worst experiences of my entire life.
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SPEAKER_00: I wish I had listened to my intuition.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: If I'm a person who's done this since I was two and have listened my whole life, I can tell you I run away from spiritual teachers today.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: Everybody needs somebody to listen to, everybody needs someone to get inspiration from.
22:30
SPEAKER_00: I run away from people who are like, let me tell you I've got it all figured out.
22:34
SPEAKER_00: Let me tell you nothing bad has ever happened.
22:37
SPEAKER_00: For me, because I'm so spiritual.
22:39
SPEAKER_00: Let me tell you, I never get angry.
22:43
SPEAKER_00: All I hold is peace within, right?
22:47
SPEAKER_00: Because it's not real, it's not human.
22:50
SPEAKER_00: All of us have these human emotions.
22:52
SPEAKER_00: And so I am just so done with kind of the facade of it all.
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SPEAKER_00: Give me the real, right?
23:00
SPEAKER_00: Like, give me how you're gonna sit in the mess with me and show me the way through.
23:06
SPEAKER_00: That's who I want to be and that's who I want to talk to.
23:09
SPEAKER_00: Life's messy.
23:10
SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm gonna go through stuff for the rest of my life.
23:13
SPEAKER_00: And honestly, I'll tell you this, Jessica.
23:16
SPEAKER_00: If you know my account, maybe you've seen it.
23:19
SPEAKER_00: I've been completely hiding away the last six months because something extremely painful happened and it really made me question like, do I even want to do this anymore?
23:32
SPEAKER_00: Because it hurts so bad to go through some of those experiences in life.
23:38
SPEAKER_00: You know, just being a business owner, you're gonna go through different things.
23:43
SPEAKER_00: And how do I want to say this?
23:45
SPEAKER_00: I'm a person who's been in therapy for over 30 years.
23:48
SPEAKER_00: Like, I would rather blame myself than blame anybody.
23:52
SPEAKER_00: But I was racking my head over the last six months because I was like, I didn't do anything.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't even know this person and I don't know why they would have done this.
24:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, and so I've really hidden away from social media, I've hidden away from a lot of my work and just buried myself in this book because it felt more comfortable than kind of um being vulnerable and doing this work of being open and being out here.
24:24
SPEAKER_00: It takes a lot to put yourself out in the world.
24:27
SPEAKER_00: It takes a lot to just be a mom, going up to another mom on the playground and being like, hey, like, talk to me.
24:36
SPEAKER_00: I need a friend.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: And the only thing that I've really gotten to over the last six months is I can't hide away for forever.
24:44
SPEAKER_00: And pain is a part of life and it's a part of growth and it's a part of evolution.
24:51
SPEAKER_00: I guess the angel said to just say the hiding away is like, okay, well, maybe if I just hide away in my house and throw the covers over my head and I don't have to go through that pain again.
25:03
SPEAKER_00: But it's always gonna come in some way.
25:05
SPEAKER_00: So why not just be you and keep going and do the thing that you're here to do and let the cards fall where they may.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love that.
25:15
SPEAKER_01: I think I think you're right.
25:18
SPEAKER_01: So many of us as moms, like there's so much happening in the world.
25:21
SPEAKER_01: And I think just to touch on that like innate intuition with all of us, I mean, when you have a baby, you immediately become intuitive to what they need before they need it, or it looks like they need a nap, or like so many different things that are just second nature to you that other people are like, well, wait, how do you know he's hungry?
25:40
SPEAKER_01: Or how do you know she needs a and I think that I I wish that we were more welcomed to continue that on in other spaces outside of being moms?
25:52
SPEAKER_00: Oh gosh, I know I completely agree.
25:56
SPEAKER_00: Like, why can't we just all be intuitive?
25:58
SPEAKER_00: There's new science behind it, everybody is intuitive.
26:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, you're right.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: It and doesn't it turn on even more so when you become a mom because you have that connection to your child?
26:10
SPEAKER_00: Oh, it is something else.
26:13
SPEAKER_00: Listen to that.
26:15
SPEAKER_00: I I really believe I'm of the philosophy too that uh they only bring through loving positive messages.
26:23
SPEAKER_00: They might bring through something to help you, uh, like we were talking about before with those business meetings, but they're really 99.999% of the time, it's loving, it's positive, it's driving you, it's cheerleading you, it's encouraging you.
26:40
SPEAKER_00: I just really feel like all mamas could use more angels like that.
26:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I totally agree.
26:45
SPEAKER_01: I think, like I said before, I think as a mom, you're always second-guessing what you're doing and if you're making the right decisions and then being a business owner on top of it, like it's doubly so.
26:56
SPEAKER_01: What would you say to moms who are like, I want to start trusting my God, I want to start reading into my intuition a little bit more?
27:03
SPEAKER_01: What are some practical ways that we can start to do that?
27:06
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
27:07
SPEAKER_00: So starting to read into your intuition, you have to think about it like when you go to the grocery store, Jessica, and you have to get things for people, you know, every week on the weekends.
27:18
SPEAKER_00: Do you have to go to a couple of grocery stores?
27:20
SPEAKER_00: Because I know, like, I have to go over to Costco to get this, and I have to go to Trader Joe's to get the specific chip that my daughter likes, and I have to go to Whole Foods because I like to get my meat from there, and then I have to go to Jewel because the dogs won't take their medicine unless it's wrapped in the deli meats from over there.
27:37
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so you know, you're constantly running around, you're doing everything for everyone else.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: You have this massive checklist in your head.
27:45
SPEAKER_00: And while men are so much doing so much more right than we could say maybe generations past, I do see nine times out of 10, the list within a woman's mind is just the longest thing in the entire world compared to anybody else.
28:05
SPEAKER_00: So you have all these things, right?
28:07
SPEAKER_00: The biggest way to start driving your intuition and that conversation with the other side is to start making yourself a part of your everyday again by thinking about yourself, prioritizing yourself.
28:21
SPEAKER_00: And instead of, hey, what do the kids want to eat for dinner tonight?
28:26
SPEAKER_00: What do you want to eat for dinner tonight?
28:28
SPEAKER_00: Hey, where was my husband want to watch or my wife want to watch for a movie on Friday night?
28:35
SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no, no.
28:36
SPEAKER_00: What do you want?
28:38
SPEAKER_00: Where does the family want to go on vacation?
28:40
SPEAKER_00: Nope.
28:40
SPEAKER_00: Where do you want to go on vacation?
28:42
SPEAKER_00: And start being the visionary for your family by tuning into your own joys because joy um and intuition are two sides of the same coin.
28:55
SPEAKER_00: Uh, joy is a type of intuition.
28:58
SPEAKER_00: So if something lights you up, it's for you.
29:00
SPEAKER_00: It's that very expansive yes energy in your body.
29:04
SPEAKER_00: Um, the more and more that you can get into your everyday and start making decisions, I don't, again, am I a weirdo?
29:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, I used to go, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
29:16
SPEAKER_00: What do you want to do?
29:18
SPEAKER_00: And as soon as I stopped doing that, and I would be like, this is what I want.
29:23
SPEAKER_00: This is what I want.
29:24
SPEAKER_00: The entire world started to recalibrate around me building just this beautiful life for myself.
29:34
SPEAKER_00: And it took a long time.
29:36
SPEAKER_00: I've been doing it probably actively for 11 years now.
29:40
SPEAKER_00: Just every little thing that I purchase, everything that I buy for myself, every choice that I make, I tune into that expansion energy, that joy energy.
29:50
SPEAKER_00: And I choose based on that.
29:52
SPEAKER_00: And now I look around my entire world and I'm like, I have built a world of my own joys, and I love this world.
30:02
SPEAKER_00: Like I love being in my own world.
30:06
SPEAKER_00: It's it's amazing because it's beautiful.
30:08
SPEAKER_01: It's so funny you say that.
30:09
SPEAKER_01: I was just um I meet with a group of women who I'm friends with and live in the neighborhood, and we're all business owners.
30:16
SPEAKER_01: And so we decided to start meeting together because we're like, we need someone to talk to to like talk about the emotional stuff and like the part of being women and moms that intersect with business.
30:27
SPEAKER_01: And one of the things that we talked about last week is like, what are we doing for ourselves that are positive that we want to focus on?
30:34
SPEAKER_01: And one of the things that I said was like, I know it sounds really silly, but I'm foc I'm trying to refocus on like what brings me joy in my day-to-day because as a mom, you start to lose so much of that.
30:45
SPEAKER_01: And just get, like you said, taking off that to-do list and doing everything for everyone else.
30:51
SPEAKER_01: And I think you change so much as a mom, figuring out what things bring you joy and make you happy are um a work.
30:57
SPEAKER_01: It's work to figure out what those things are.
30:59
SPEAKER_01: And so, like for me, this year it was putting together a garden with a few different vegetables and fruits.
31:05
SPEAKER_01: And so that was super exciting, like highlight of my weekend and like focusing on some of those things that bring me joy and inserting them intentionally into my days, like you said, is is bringing me so much more in love with the life that we have and being able to like be present enough to look at everything and be like, wow, I love this life that I have.
31:30
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
31:31
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, you can just see it and feel the energy of it.
31:34
SPEAKER_00: If your your mind is constantly on, and it's not just a hundred things, like let's be honest, it's probably over a thousand things in your mind that you have to do.
31:44
SPEAKER_00: If your mind is constantly consumed with that energy and not even tuned in at all to daydreaming or what you want or what would make you happy, my gosh, you're just consumed with everything you should be doing in life.
32:03
SPEAKER_00: And then when you're consumed by the weight of all of that, here you have God and your angels and your loved ones on the other side trying to come in, bring through messages, and they can't get through that wall, right, of all your shoulds.
32:17
SPEAKER_00: And so you drop all of that and you go, no, let me feel into my heart space, let me feel joy again, let me start to daydream again.
32:25
SPEAKER_00: And it just starts to slowly turn on.
32:29
SPEAKER_00: And then as you're hearing that voice, what do I want for dinner?
32:33
SPEAKER_00: Oh, you know what?
32:33
SPEAKER_00: Tonight I could really go for Thai food, right?
32:36
SPEAKER_00: Oh, tonight I could really go for a good margarita.
32:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, you start to hear that.
32:40
SPEAKER_00: And as you're allowing yourself to hear and daydream and just uh, because if I think of what I want to eat, I don't know if this happens for you, but I get a vision of it too.
32:50
SPEAKER_00: Like I see it mentally within my mind.
32:53
SPEAKER_00: That's where then the angels are speaking to you.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: Your loved ones on the other side are speaking, and you're starting to hear it because now the channel is open.
33:02
SPEAKER_00: And um, I I applaud you, Jessica.
33:05
SPEAKER_00: You're doing the perfect thing to open yourself up.
33:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it it is work.
33:10
SPEAKER_01: It is hard to do to get out of your like.
33:12
SPEAKER_01: I mean, all of us love a system, we all love a routine, and so getting out of that is very hard.
33:19
SPEAKER_01: But so far, I feel like it's been very helpful for me to walk through my life every day and be able to be present and engaged and lean into all the things that are coming to me.
33:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I mean, you know, if you're making me think about something too.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: If you've ever heard of Eckhart Tole, who talks about being the observer of your thoughts, I mean, just simply the process of not asking what somebody else wants, but asking yourself is forcing you into a position where you have to be now the observer of your thoughts.
33:52
SPEAKER_00: And that's part of the whole game, too.
33:54
SPEAKER_00: Like that's why that works.
33:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:58
SPEAKER_01: Well, tell me, this season of the podcast is focused all on moms and women making impact.
34:04
SPEAKER_01: What impact have you seen through the work that you're doing just with your clients in the world?
34:10
SPEAKER_01: Tell me everything.
34:11
SPEAKER_00: Oh gosh.
34:12
SPEAKER_00: You know, I had no expectation of what it was going to be to start the podcast.
34:18
SPEAKER_00: I uh it took about eight months to really build it and get it up.
34:22
SPEAKER_00: I got it up February of 2019.
34:26
SPEAKER_00: And I had a huge clientele of people that I did readings for.
34:31
SPEAKER_00: Immediately, this is kind of funny.
34:34
SPEAKER_00: I heard right when I got my certification, I go, okay, God, you know, I went through this training.
34:40
SPEAKER_00: You told me to do this.
34:41
SPEAKER_00: Now, how do I build a business?
34:42
SPEAKER_00: How do I get clients?
34:44
SPEAKER_00: And I heard God say, put five gift cards in your daughter's fun fair at school.
34:49
SPEAKER_00: And I thought, God, you must not have heard me.
34:52
SPEAKER_00: No, like I'm talking about building a business here, you know, like I'm talking about building a clientele.
34:57
SPEAKER_00: And so I prayed the prayer again and I heard, yeah, put five gift in your daughter's fun fair at school.
35:04
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what kind of freaking magic happened, but I did.
35:08
SPEAKER_00: I put those five gift cards in.
35:10
SPEAKER_00: And you know how you have like girlfriends who are more like shy and reserved, they observe, and then you have the girlfriend who is telling you like every product, every skincare, every this, every that, and was like, you gotta try this, you gotta.
35:25
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how I got the five people in my community who are all like the you gotta try this type of people, but they came in and they told everybody, and I swear to you, Jessica, those five women built my business.
35:40
SPEAKER_00: So here I had within like the first maybe six months of of running the business, it's completely booked out, it's completely filled, which I have a vocal disorder, so I stopped, I stopped doing that.
35:52
SPEAKER_00: So you can get in because rescheduling people for an entire year is a nightmare, right?
36:00
SPEAKER_00: So the business was booked out, started the podcast, and it was because I had this very strong clientele who was just chomping at the bit.
36:10
SPEAKER_00: I'd love to know more, I'd love to know more.
36:12
SPEAKER_00: I can't book a session a week.
36:13
SPEAKER_00: How do I learn more?
36:15
SPEAKER_00: They went over to the podcast, they told everybody, and then it got picked up as an ABC radio show.
36:22
SPEAKER_00: And in one year, I think the most downloads that we got was 10 million in a single year, which was just insanity.
36:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
36:32
SPEAKER_01: Well that's for sure.
36:34
SPEAKER_01: Is there any is there anything else that you want to share about the work that you do or kind of leave anyone with a last note about um following their intuition and and getting more into this work?
36:47
SPEAKER_00: It is that we are headed into a day and age where you are so needed in this world.
36:59
SPEAKER_00: And people that grew up in the 80s, the 90s, the 2000s, I still don't think that they get it.
37:05
SPEAKER_00: I don't think that they see it or who they are or how God sees them.
37:09
SPEAKER_00: And what I want to leave people with is like, if you thought that the angels could come in and hop into your body and do the work for you, they would, but they can't.
37:20
SPEAKER_00: Like you are God's mouth and ears and hands and the doers here in this world.
37:28
SPEAKER_00: And I don't believe in having like a savior complex or anything, but every single person has a piece of the puzzle, right?
37:36
SPEAKER_00: Which is why we're all here to work together.
37:39
SPEAKER_00: But if you keep shrinking yourself, and if you keep saying no to the next chapter that God is trying to pull you into, and if you keep trying to keep yourself just small, you can't evolve.
37:56
SPEAKER_00: And yes, it's painful, but it's also one of the greatest joys in the entire world to just get to help and to serve.
38:04
SPEAKER_00: You know, I didn't answer your last question the best way that I could have.
38:08
SPEAKER_00: The impact has been all of the messages that have come through from the people who have listened to the podcast who have just blown me away by what they got out of it and how it's helped them or healed them or brought something into their life.
38:28
SPEAKER_00: And that's what I mean.
38:29
SPEAKER_00: Like all of us have a piece of this puzzle, but so many of us growing up were told to like shy away from who we are, shy away from our intuition.
38:38
SPEAKER_00: And like it could make me cry.
38:40
SPEAKER_00: You know, when you're talking to loved ones on the other side, they always come through and say, I didn't do the thing.
38:47
SPEAKER_00: I lived my entire life.
38:48
SPEAKER_00: I got to 60, I got to 70, I got to 100.
38:51
SPEAKER_00: And I never went and did that thing because I was always worried about what other people would think.
38:57
SPEAKER_00: Fuck that shit.
38:58
SPEAKER_00: Let's go do that thing.
39:00
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you're allowed to say that on the podcast.
39:02
SPEAKER_00: Yep, they're all about it.
39:03
SPEAKER_00: Turn it on, uh, mute it out.
39:06
SPEAKER_00: But um just screw it.
39:08
SPEAKER_00: Go do the thing.
39:10
SPEAKER_00: You're only here for this blip on the map.
39:13
SPEAKER_00: If you're not gonna live your life for you, who the heck are you living it for?
39:18
SPEAKER_00: Because I do work with women who are in their 70s, their 80s.
39:23
SPEAKER_00: I had an 86-year-old woman come in, I swear to God, and she goes in the middle of the session, I really just want to know if it's okay to believe my husband.
39:33
SPEAKER_00: We've been together for 55 years.
39:35
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if I have 10 years left, but I just can't do it anymore.
39:39
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, girl, go do it.
39:41
SPEAKER_00: You know, you're here for permission, but you go do the thing.
39:45
SPEAKER_00: We have lived all of these years for everybody else.
39:50
SPEAKER_00: Stop.
39:50
SPEAKER_00: This is your life too.
39:52
SPEAKER_00: And when your kids see you making choices based on your joys, based following your passions, creating a life for yourself that they you want to live that's fun for them too.
40:07
SPEAKER_00: There's no better example for them to go live their life in the same way.
40:13
SPEAKER_00: And that's what they need from you because this next generation coming in, our kids' generation, they're up against stuff that we just can't even fathom yet.
40:24
SPEAKER_00: And they need that intuition more than anything.
40:29
SPEAKER_00: It's the number one driver for what's coming.
40:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
40:32
SPEAKER_00: And I think it's gonna be huge and it's gonna be great.
40:34
SPEAKER_00: We've got some bumps to get through.
40:36
SPEAKER_00: And you better have that intuition turned on to move through it.
40:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
40:41
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's a perfect way to wrap it all up.
40:44
SPEAKER_01: Can you tell us where we can find you, where we can find your podcast, your how to work with you, all the stuff.
40:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
40:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, I have uh the Angels and Awakening podcast everywhere you can um find podcasts.
40:56
SPEAKER_00: I teach women and certify them and how to do this work, energy healing, angel messages, um, working with loved ones on the other side on my angel Reiki school.
41:05
SPEAKER_00: And that's on my website, thangelmedium.com.
41:10
SPEAKER_00: And then I've got a book, Angel Science, coming out in spring of 2027, um, which I'm just so excited about.
41:17
SPEAKER_00: I do readings for people.
41:18
SPEAKER_00: I have a membership where people meet every week and I coach people on how to work with the angels.
41:24
SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, thank you so much for being here.
41:26
SPEAKER_01: This has been incredible, and I hope that all of our listeners start to follow you and start to get more into their intuition.
41:33
SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much, Jessica.
41:34
SPEAKER_00: Thank you for being such a blessing and following your intuition.
41:38
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41:46
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41:54
SPEAKER_01: Thank you for being here, and I'll see you next time.