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Travis Hines talks Cyclones, Mike Palm from Circa Sports & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hour number two, Miller and Condon, welcome back, Iowa
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Sports Radio Network. Another hour for us.
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Coming up at the top of the hour, Sean is in with Lucas
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today. Lucas and Sean teaming up to
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until 5:00 and they're doing their show live at Shields in
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Let's get Travis Hines in here. He covers Iowa State and he
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joins us. Hello, Travis, Hines, Trenton,
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Ken, how are you? I'm doing excellent.
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How are you guys? Doing well, I, you know where we
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start with you was the contract Jayden Higgins signed yesterday
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and I thought it must be a misprint because, you know,
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second round players don't get guaranteed contracts and Jaden
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Higgins has become the first to do so and good for him.
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11,700,000 and some change for Jaden Higgins, who Brent Bloom
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tweeted out at some point last night, came to Iowa State with 0
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NIL promises. How about that?
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And then to see him get rewarded and a hell of a player.
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I'm guessing he's one of the guys you enjoyed covering.
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Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, I think it was he had
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modest expectations when he arrived at Iowa State two years
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ago. I think, you know, people were
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hopeful that he could be an impact receiver.
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But what he ultimately was over the course of two years at Iowa
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State, I don't know that very many people would have predicted
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that. I mean, he was right up there,
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in my opinion, with the best receivers that I've covered at
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Iowa State in the last 10 years. Now obviously only had two years
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to make that sort of impact, but I do think he was just as good.
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Anybody else that has come through that program at that
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position in the last 10 years? And certainly I was surprised to
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see him get a fully guaranteed contract.
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But I guess when you look at his collegiate track record,
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obviously the Texans both highly of him and Iowa State's
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development of wide receivers. Given that they took Jalen Knoll
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round or two later and already have Xavier Hutchinson on the
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roster, I guess it makes sense. Like they got to feel pretty
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confident that they're getting, you know, maybe not a game
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changing wide receiver, but a guy that's going to make their
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roster and make contributions from day one and then hopefully
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for them over the course of a number of years.
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Who's next? And don't say Rocco Beck,
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because I think that'd be maybe the easiest answer.
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Who would be the next guy that you'd put in there?
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You look at this roster that you think can be not even a first
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round pick, but that day 2 type of guy.
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Is there anybody that jumps off the board to you?
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You know, it's a good question. Like as I think about it now, at
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the top of my head, I don't know that there's anybody with that
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eye of feeling. But I think do you look at it
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like if you would have asked me that last year, I don't know
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that I would have said Darien Porter and his measurables were
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that was probably a fail on my part because he was had all the
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tools to be, you know, ultimately what he became.
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So I don't know that I have a great name off the top of my.
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Head Dom orange maybe? Guys, that's a good one.
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Dom Orange would be a guy, but like that's that's a pretty
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competitive position at the NFL draft level.
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You have to be not only a physical freak, but a, you know,
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the most among the most refined at that position in the country.
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So like that's a tough, tough spot to be drafted highly from.
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But I do think like he's a guy that maybe who would be talking
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about in a couple months, Like the guy that I think over the
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long term will be interesting just because we've seen guys
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take this path as I'm talking about Darien Porter is like a
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Benny Nagoya, like a guy with his size and speed and now play
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blueprint for Darien from Darien Porter of how to get to like, is
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that a guy that we're talking about in a couple of years to
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this point really hasn't seen the field, you know, other than
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to really block offensively. The other name that I was
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thinking of is John Tez Williams, the essential we saw
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out of him at the other quarterback spot opposite
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Porter. I just don't know is he, is he
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big enough even to be a day two kind of selection?
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I guess that'd probably be the question with Williams, wouldn't
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it, Travis? Yeah, like that's when I was
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thinking of through names, Like I'm, I'm biased.
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Anybody that I look down to while I speak to them, like I
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worry about their size. You know, I, I say that like
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literally, not figuratively. I'm not talking down to anybody.
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Right, right, just. Worrying about it that size,
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like unless you are an elite, you know, shut down corner with
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elite speed, like that's again, it's just really hard at that
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level. But certainly like Jack says, is
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the guy that's going to be, you know, one of their premier
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defensive players next year. Again, it's just it's so hard to
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go from even being among the best in the Big 12 to being a
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high pick in the NFL draft. It's just so competitive.
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I want to go not between the lines, but kind of outside when
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when it comes to this college sports Commission that's being
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put together and Nick Saban is going to be a part of it.
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I know there's a big money booster from Texas Tech that's
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got his name. He's going to be a part of it.
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I'm not sure who else is going to comprise it.
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As Trent pointed out to me, the NCAA has been trying to get
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Congress to get involved with this.
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What's in the end? At the end of the day, does this
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Commission, will this Commission have any teeth?
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Because whatever they decide, I have to assume is going to end
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up in court and ending up in court's been really good for the
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players in most cases as of late.
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What, where, where are we headed with this?
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Any idea? I mean, I don't, I don't think
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very far, frankly. I mean, when you talk about a
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Commission like what, what authority is this Commission
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going to have? Is it going to ultimately end up
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as an executive order on the presidential deaths, which I
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think probably doesn't go to where the NCAA would need it to
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be from a legal standpoint in terms of being able to actually
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make changes that now become law?
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I think to do that, they're going to need Congress.
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And I think when you look at what Congress has been, I mean,
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it's easy to to make Congress jokes.
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So I can make your own here. Like, are they going to get
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anything through Congress? And the time it takes to get
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legislation that the NCAA would feel like is in their best
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interest. What is Congress going to look
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like? Because we're what now like like
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16 months out from the midterm elections?
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I guess the Congress going to look like it does today.
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I maybe, but maybe not. So I just, I, I am very
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skeptical. And I think ultimately, and this
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is where I come down, I like, I don't know what kind of reform
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there can be until we just make these guys employees.
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I just don't know what's going to stand any kind of legal
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scrutiny. Because the one thing that I
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feel pretty confident isn't going to change anytime soon is
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the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court not too
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long ago went nine O against the NCAA and basically invited as
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much litigation as anybody could bring against them, you know,
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with those opinions. So I, I think that's just tough.
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And until you recognize a fundamental disc here, which
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again, is probably going to change the DNA of college
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sports, like if their employees or if these football programs
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get spun out as you know, associated with athletic or with
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universities, but not directly tied to them.
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Like you're looking at a fundamental change here, which,
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you know, when you talk about the way NIL and transfer portal
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has transformed the game, I don't know that fans
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particularly like. And if we're going to go further
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down this where you're further divorcing the players and
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programs from the actual university, I think that could
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be problematic. But excuse me on the other end,
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I just saw a report that ESP NS willing to pony up like another
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50 or 60 million for an extra SEC gain.
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So like obviously they're not too worried about at least at
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the top tier level of the sport, you know, devaluing any.
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So I just, I don't know what direction this is going to go in
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ultimately. I don't know that anybody does.
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But I don't know like anybody that wants there to be rules,
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regulations, guardrails, whatever buzzword we're using,
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like it's going to fundamentally change college sports.
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And the question is, is that for better or worse than it already
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has changed? Because I know nobody likes the
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way this is set up now. But like, we've had pretty good
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football. We've had pretty good basketball
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on both the men's and women's side.
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So while like maybe over the long term, this isn't going to
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go great, I don't know that anybody at least that is
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watching on TV or cashing these checks is complaining.
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Like the rubber will beat the road here with the revenue
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sharing though, and how athletic departments absorb that cost.
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Like that's probably what's going to change and really cause
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a realignment and how things go. But until then, I just don't
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know how much anybody can really change anything.
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And like what the the Overton window of possibility even
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really is when you look at the White House, Congress and the
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Supreme Court. And then you have the NCAA,
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which obviously feels one way, and then you have the players or
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their representatives on the other that are going to be
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pushing in the other direction. Really thoughtful conversation
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there. Good stuff, Travis, from you
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taking it now kind of from that big picture.
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Let's bring it back in. As you look towards the not so
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foreseeable future when everything is put together.
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Is this a good thing for a place like Iowa State?
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It is what we have coming down the Pike of is this going to be
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a good thing or is it going to make that hill to climb even
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more difficult for the Cyclone athletic department?
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I think in the short and medium term, in terms of the ability to
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compete at the highest level, it's probably a net benefit for
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Iowa State for a couple reasons, I think #1 on the football side,
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is the playoff access, right, like the Big 12, like Iowa
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State, Is it going to surprise you if you look up?
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And not that much changes in the next five years in terms of how
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college sports looks. And Iowa State is among the best
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and most consistent programs in the Big 12.
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Like that would have been wild to say 10 years ago, but now
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with what Iowa State has done, what the Big 12 looks like, it
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doesn't feel that crazy as a possibility.
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And I so I think that is a positive for Iowa State.
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You know, I do think when you get into the revenue sharing and
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then still having, in my opinion, likely to have to raise
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money on top of that through collective, like that'll be
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tough. But we've seen TJ Asselberger,
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we've seen Matt Campbell, we've seen Bill Fennelly field really
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competitive elite level teams in this environment.
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Now they're walking tightrope, like this stuff is really hard
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to do it the way they're doing it.
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So it's not guaranteed, but at least we've seen them do it.
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I think beyond that, my concern would be, and I don't think like
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I'm alone here, like what is the SEC in the Big 10 going to do?
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Like if they leave off and do their own thing or just continue
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to exert the leverage that they have, they're going to make it
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harder for the Iowa States of the world to compete or even be
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in the same league as these other leagues.
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Intern, like metaphorically speaking, I just don't know what
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that's going to look like because if the Big 10 and SEC
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decide we're going to professionalize this as much as
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we can. And I don't know that their fan
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bases particularly care or they might even be advocating for
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that, that like Iowa State, it's going to be tough for them to
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find a landing spot there. And they're not going to be
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alone there. There's going to be, you know,
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very valuable properties, proud athletic departments and fan
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bases that are, you know, on the outside looking in.
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And I do feel a little Pollyannish saying it like that
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because we've been talking about this for 15 years and it hasn't
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happened. But like the on the other end,
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like we've only moved closer to it, right?
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Like it's moving in that direction.
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Eventually, unless Congress steps in or there's a wholesale,
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you know, change of culture, which I'm not counting on, like
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these programs, these conferences are going to
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continue to chase the biggest dollars.
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And now it would seem the next logical phase is to box out
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other programs and other leagues from those dollars, which
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ultimately means from the competition.
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And that would be my concern. That'd be brutal.
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Travis Hines, Des Moines registers our guests.
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Let's get back. I want to ask you kind of the
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same thing with Higgins, but I want to do it in basketball.
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As far as guys that you've covered, Tyrese Halbert, we're
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seeing what he's doing. We're seeing where that he was
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named the Olympic team, so I get the gold medal, etcetera.
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He's having such an impactful playoffs.
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Was there a time at Iowa State that you thought he was going to
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be as good as he is and his as big of a name in the NBA as he
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seemingly becoming? No, I did not.
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I thought like I thought he had a chance or a feeling, maybe
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even a likelihood of being a multiple time All Star.
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And I felt like I was higher on him than most.
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But I thought being a multiple time All Star was going to be as
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good as it got for him. And it'd probably be coming, you
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know, year 789 in his late 20s when he's in the peak of his
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career to see where he is now. In absolutely no way could I
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have seen him being one of the 10 or 15 best players in the
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league. And I think he's absolutely in
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that discussion right now. And it's just incredible.
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Like I've said this before, I've written it before, but it is
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amazing to me, a guy who like, again, probably should have gone
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to Northern Iowa. When you look at the program he
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was joining and like the past the playing time for him when he
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started, it seemed like this is a dude who's probably
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transferring in 10 months. To go from that to this is
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incredible. And it's been, you know, really
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fun to watch as somebody who had a front row seat for those first
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two years to see Tyrese. And like, everything people say
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about Tyrese in terms of his personality, his charisma, his
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magnetism is true. Like, he's just a guy that
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people like being around. And like, I'm sure he's like,
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not quite as humble as he was before a $250 million contract,
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but he is a guy that's still like when he was back in March,
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everybody only had great things to say about him, about how
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engaged he was and personable. You know, I saw Steve Brome
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today wrote in The Athletic that two days after he got fired at
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Murray State, you know, who was calling him but Tyrene Albert.
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So again, like, it's been cool to watch his evolution and to
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see him, you know, by all. I'm not going to pretend like I,
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me and Tyrese are best buddies, but everybody who's around him
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and spends time with him has continued to say that he was the
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same Tyrese that showed up at Ames, you know, 18 years old,
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with a smile on his face and not much of a reputation.
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Travis, we know you're a big hoop, said We're talking earlier
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with Tom Caker about a prospect from Iowa United Prep here in
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Des Moines. Have you heard anything about
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that prep school they're in through finishing up your number
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one over there, how things have went?
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It feels like they got some big time prospects.
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I saw Kelvin Sampson, he was at the school a couple of weeks
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ago. Have you heard anything kind of
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in the in the basketball circles about that prep program a year
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in? Yeah, about a year ago, maybe a
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little longer, I started hearing about them and everything.
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It sounds like they're spending a lot of money and bringing in a
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lot of high level prospects. And I think believe Dean Oliver
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is the coach, if I'm not mistaken.
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They're they're they're top team.
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So yeah, I mean, I think they're they're talking about spending a
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ton of money and developing, you know, high level prospects.
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I don't know much beyond that, but it is certainly something
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that I've tried to keep an eye on, at least from a distance to
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see how it unfolds. Because again, I don't know much
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about it. But I think everybody nationally
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who follows prep schools, when any of these pop up, you always
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have kind of a skeptical eye because there are horror
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stories, which you get not to say that this is 1, but it's
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always something you wonder about.
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But certainly, you know, I think we've seen guys get scholarship
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offers out of there. And you mentioned the the
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coaches that are coming through that, you know, they've gotten
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some high level dudes through there.
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And that's always an interesting thing to watch, especially, you
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know, in probably one of the more random places to try to
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build a prep school in Des Moines, IA.
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Fairpoint, Good stuff, Travis. desmoinesregisterdesmoinesregister.com
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Travis, thanks for doing this. We'll run you down in a couple
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of weeks if your schedule allows.
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Thanks, Travis. Have a good weekend.
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Sounds great, you guys too. Thank you, bud, Travis signs Des
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Moines Register. Good stuff out of Travis as we
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talk a number of college sports, Iowa State related topics.
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Mike Palm is the VP of operations at Circus Sports and
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he joins us to talk about a number of topics right now.
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Hello, Mike. Trenton, Kent, how are you?
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Behold unto you is born this day in the city of Chicago a new
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Pope, and he shall be called Leo the 14th.
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Indeed, he will be and he's a White Sox fan.
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We got that news after the ABC broke the story that he's a Cubs
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fan. Couldn't even get that right.
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And by the way, I loved your I loved your line about the
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tickets. I don't know exactly what it
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was, but if they if they go 4 four votes and they don't
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declare Pope, they get it, get the ball at the 25 yard line,
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which was pretty good. Anyways, a lot of ground to
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cover with you Mike, and enjoy our conversations with you.
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I want to start hockey wise, and I think it's I'm going to be a
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blow to Veeson. I think you're going to.
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I think Veeson's going to lose Stormy Bone and Tony, if I'm
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pronouncing her name right. She is so good, such a breath of
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fresh air. When it comes to Leah Heckstall
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and Emily Kaplan, they're fine, but Stormy is just better,
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period. And I believe that it doesn't
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take, won't take ESPN very long to figure that out.
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Do you think I'm on to something?
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Well, I've been saying that for years, but unfortunately in the
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post game with SVP last night, I thought she asked dry sight of a
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bad question when she said you guys were locked in and he said
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no, we weren't. The top line was not locked in.
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It was the IT was the 3rd and 4th line that really got us
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through this game. But you know, I when I was on
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her show this morning, I kind of ripped her about it and she
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said, Mike, when they killed the major penalty, I was throwing my
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mind prepared to talk to a knight because I thought they
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were going to win the game that I was shocked at Edmonton one
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after they killed off the five minute.
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No, she's terrific and you can see the respect that the coaches
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have for well, let's go to that series.
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I I, I thought Edmonton was dead in the water.
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I really did end of March into April.
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I thought, you know what, what a waste of money because I bet
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this team as soon as the odds came out last year, I thought
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get them now. The numbers just going to go
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down and again, I thought they were completely cooked.
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What's been the turn around amongst the Oilers, do you
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think? Well, I don't know.
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You know what we say, sometimes a goaltending change can just
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spark A-Team. Not that it's the first goalie's
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fault. I will tell you last night that
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if Pickard wouldn't have played as well as he did, they would
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have got buried in that second period.
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He kept them in the game and then all the sudden Hill gives
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up by a couple of two goals on three shots and it really turned
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the game around. You know, when we go back, if
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the Edmonton Oilers win the Stanley Cup this year, I'm going
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to go back to game three against the Kings and that awful
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challenge that turned that whole series.
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You're up to nothing. You're 4/4 with six minutes to
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go in Game 3 and you make a horrible challenge with the
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consequence almost always going to be a goal on their power
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play. And but they're playing really
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well. Like I tell you right now, I
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think Dallas will eliminate your Jets.
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Dallas will need hasten in back, I think if they're going to have
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a shot to beat Edmonton. They look really good right now.
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I'm not sure if the Knights can scratch out even one game in
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this series. Can I let me follow up Trent on
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that just for a second when it comes to Winnipeg and and you're
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probably going to be right, but that you know my squad and you
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know where my heart is. So I there's 16 to one around
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that price to win the Stanley Cup.
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So I'm thinking to myself, and I'm going by something that that
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you've been floating out there that this is not the year to be
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a goalie to win the con. Smythe and I'm wholeheartedly on
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that train with you that it's not going to be.
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So I start shopping around. If The Jets win, it's going to
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be one of two guys. It's good.
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It's not going to be Hella Buck. It's going to be Kyle Connor or
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in all likelihood it's going to be Mark Shifley who is their
20:52
best player. So I can bet The Jets are 16 to
20:55
one or I can bet the con. Smythe and I start going to my 3
20:58
apps, open the mall, 50 to one at DraftKings, 150 at Bet
21:02
Rivers. I come to Circa.
21:03
He's 325 to 1 to when they con smite.
21:08
I mean, what a difference in price in my favor.
21:10
Now all The Jets need to do is hoist the Cup, which is kind of
21:14
a big ask, but is that a decent strategy on my part if I truly
21:19
believe that they're not out of it at this point?
21:23
Sure, and you can add them if they win in this round.
21:25
You can add someone on Winnipeg as well, just in case that
21:28
happens. But 325 to 1, I mean, my God,
21:31
that's when he's the most likely player on the team.
21:35
That's great. I will say this, Ken, I say
21:38
there's no goalie likely to win it.
21:39
Logan Thompson, if if the Caps keep going, I think he deserves
21:45
strong consideration. I just think you can draw a line
21:47
through all these goalies. It isn't going to be Freddie
21:50
Anderson. I don't think he's done anything
21:52
outstanding, you know, But Brofsky has not been terrific,
21:59
really. He's been very average and
22:01
probably cost him one of the two games in Toronto.
22:06
Yeah, I don't know. I I don't know.
22:09
A Toronto goalie won't win it because they're going to have
22:12
too many split games. Wolves going to get the next two
22:15
for sure in South Florida. I don't think Helabock can win
22:21
it and I don't think Ottinger can win.
22:22
He could if he got really hot. But you got Rattan on that team.
22:25
Single handedly got them to where they are.
22:28
Picard. Picard just doesn't have the
22:30
name and all the star power on that offense and he'll hasn't
22:33
been great. So I think, I think Logan
22:36
Thompson's really right now the only goalie that has any shot
22:38
and the and the Caps would have to pull about 3 upsets in the
22:41
next 3 rounds for that to happen.
22:43
I'll jump into the other winter sport, the NBA continues.
22:46
Ken and I were talking at the top of the show.
22:49
Those game one and games two in the Eastern Conference, those
22:51
had to be good for you guys. Not just obviously the cover for
22:55
the underdog, but the money line.
22:56
Those game two games. Was that a big one for you guys
22:59
as operators and what we saw not just the game one upset, but
23:03
then Game 2 to bounce back and get both of those?
23:06
No, the biggest thing was Boston losing game two.
23:08
Yeah, because that's impossible. Cleveland, the injuries, people
23:11
weren't, you know, bridge jumpers, as we would say Kenny
23:14
and the horse racing industry, but they were jumping on that
23:17
bridge on the Celtics. You blow a 20 point lead in game
23:20
one, there's no way they're losing Game 2.
23:21
And here came everybody. They've got the game straight up
23:24
on the money line. Forget about money line parlays.
23:26
They pounded that game and laid the price on the money line.
23:29
That was one of the best results we ever had as a book.
23:31
Maybe maybe our best non football result that was there
23:36
were millions wagered on the money line on on the Celtics in
23:40
Game 2. I think you told us last year
23:42
it's about two to one NBA over NHL when it comes to Ticket,
23:47
right? Is it still that number?
23:48
Way more people still bet the NBA as opposed to the NHL.
23:52
If you look at our monthly handle right now, baseball's at
23:55
about 35% and then it's NBA 24%, NHL 12 to 13.
24:01
So it's right there, same as the regular season 2 to one.
24:05
Makes sense. Speaking of that, I'm looking at
24:09
your series prices right now at Circa Knicks plus one O 8
24:13
Celtics -128 All the Celtics have to do is win 4 out of five
24:17
in order to come back and win the series.
24:20
Have you seen people jump on it? And I would anticipate people
24:23
are just still handing over their money, right to lay at the
24:25
Celtics just because they believe what they saw in the
24:27
first two games were flukes. Because they've been betting it
24:30
since yesterday afternoon. We were still picking 110 each
24:33
way, but it's almost 1:30. So here comes the Celtics.
24:37
I did a Mall, Mall Shows podcast with Britain for the first time
24:40
this morning, he said, Mike, the Celtics are winning the next
24:43
four. You're never going to get a
24:44
buyer a lower spot to buy on the Celtics.
24:46
You should jump in. I said I'm not knowledgeable
24:49
enough to do it. I find it unfathomable that you
24:54
blow 220 point leads that you can't score in the last 8
24:57
minutes. You don't adjust your game at
24:59
all. I think that atmosphere will be
25:01
electric in New York City. So I'm going to take a pass on
25:05
take a pass on it. But he's convinced they win the
25:06
next 4. What other series has your
25:09
caught your attention, Mike? I'm you know what?
25:12
I'm obsessed with the Timberwolves.
25:15
I'm obsessed with Chris Finch. This guy has got to do the best
25:18
interview in sports, his radio interviews.
25:21
This guy is so good. I've been listening to him for a
25:24
month. It's unbelievable how honest he
25:27
is and everything that he says projects into the next game.
25:30
You can almost bet them based off his interviews.
25:32
He said it would be impossible for them to win game two against
25:35
the Lakers and he listed all the reasons.
25:37
He said all the matchups problems Golden State would give
25:40
them because the Kerr has so many different lineups and
25:43
they'll bait us into a running game.
25:45
It happened in game one, right? Everybody's focused on his
25:49
comments about the officiating. I'm more focused on his comments
25:51
about Edwards and he's not going to.
25:53
He has nothing to say to Edwards.
25:55
This 23 year old kid wanted to be the leader of this team.
25:57
Now he's got to go out there and lead them whether he can or he
26:00
can't. I mean, they're still settling
26:02
for all these jumpers last night.
26:03
So. And Minnesota is fascinating.
26:05
It's the first time I bet a point spread in the entire NBA
26:09
playoffs other than betting Denver just to hedge my Clippers
26:11
series playing Game 7 because I knew Harden wouldn't show up.
26:14
And I laid the 10 1/2 last night and I said they're going to win
26:17
by 30 or they're going to get beat.
26:18
It's one of the two. I'm glad it was the former, but
26:22
this Lynch is amazing. I don't know if he has the kind
26:25
of personality to manage Anthony Edwards.
26:28
I don't know if anybody does. I don't know if Phil Jackson
26:30
does. But they are quite a study, this
26:32
team. Question that hits all of us.
26:37
You can myself and every listener out there that is
26:40
wagering lawmakers are in the state of Iowa are talking about
26:45
a major tax hike on online sports betting.
26:48
What can you tell us about that the involvement and I mean are
26:51
we talking about people now that are going up there to the hill
26:53
and they're talking things over and and trying to what where are
26:56
we in this and what should us as sports wagers in the state?
26:59
What do we need to know about the potential of a tax hike?
27:02
You know, it's very hard to speculate on these things
27:05
because any type of these ideas with taxes and appropriations
27:11
always have a lot of pushback on the other side.
27:14
And all we can do is hope to lobby the lawmakers on how
27:19
punitive these things can be and actually hurt revenues.
27:22
And then it's very unpredictable.
27:24
You never know what's going to happen.
27:25
I mean, you can get a totalitarian state like Illinois
27:28
that's just going to say, we're just going to screw everybody to
27:30
the ground. We're Illinois and we don't
27:31
care. And you get all these new states
27:34
coming online with very reasonable rates like like
27:37
Missouri and Michigan. I mean, the business climates
27:41
are just so different state to state.
27:43
And when you're not there, it's tough.
27:44
You rely on, you know, some people there that you hope can
27:47
help lobby for you. But I really don't want to
27:49
speculate yet at this point. We'll go back to last Saturday,
27:52
one of the few days that Circa will put horse racing and take
27:56
wagers on horses. Derby Day, Oaks Day, Breeders'
28:00
Cup days, and of course, the Preakness in the Belmont Stakes.
28:03
But what kind of Derby did the day did you guys have?
28:07
I saw some pictures. Seemed like there was a lot of
28:09
people inside watching the race. What was it like, Mike?
28:12
It's well, everybody came inside.
28:14
It was raining. People from stadium swim came
28:16
inside. The Legacy was, I think that
28:20
might have been the most people that were ever at Legacy Club,
28:22
of course, all dressed up in their suits and hats and all
28:25
that. It's hard to say because it's
28:27
apples to oranges because we got rid of the 6th odds, but the
28:31
Para Mutual did go up 50% from last year and there was really a
28:35
super horse. So you see the TV ratings were
28:39
the highest in 20 some years almost maybe it maybe longer
28:42
than that, 30 years. So that was good.
28:45
I don't know, Kenny, what you can do because you have no
28:47
commissioner of horse racing and you have all these separate
28:50
companies that are publicly traded that own these Triple
28:52
Crown races or these race tracks.
28:54
I don't know. I mean, this is the fourth time
28:56
since justify one of you don't have the Derby winner in the
28:58
Preakness. I just think it really hurts the
29:01
sport. It does.
29:02
The Derby is the one day you create casual fan and then when
29:06
they don't get a chance to see that horse, run.
29:08
I know that today's horses aren't bred to go twice a month
29:10
like they were 100 years ago and 50 years ago, and I don't know
29:14
how these three corporations could ever get together to
29:17
change the schedule. The Triple Crown.
29:19
It's probably impossible, but it's really disappointing.
29:21
It is and I was always old school.
29:24
No, you can't change it blah blah.
29:26
You have to. Yeah, it's got to be even.
29:28
It's the Memorial Day or the 1st Saturday.
29:30
Saturday in May for Saturday in June for Saturday in July.
29:33
Do it that way. But something has to be done for
29:35
that very reason. Casual horse racing fans.
29:38
One day a year, if you're going to watch one horse race, it's
29:40
the one that take place on the 1st Saturday in May.
29:43
Anything else TC? One more we talked a week ago
29:46
about college football getting some of those numbers up a
29:48
little bit early. Are you guys going to come up
29:50
with a goofy prop for Bill Belichick girlfriend?
29:55
I wonder if Michael Lombardi leaked that story to Pablo
29:57
Torres and they were. Feel.
29:59
Really. Good.
30:01
I'm what I'm interested in is to see if this 7 1/2 drops down to
30:05
seven or if the juice gets heavier because it's just
30:07
nothing but distractions out of that program so far.
30:10
And it's, it's sort of embarrassing, I guess.
30:12
I mean, even the distraction. Is she or isn't she banned?
30:15
I mean that that story continues to get legs.
30:18
It's crazy. Mike Pom, VP of operations at
30:21
Circa Sports. If you're listening in Illinois,
30:23
download the Illinois app. If you're in the state of Iowa,
30:26
download the Circus Sports Iowa app.
30:28
Mike, thanks for what you do for us.
30:29
We'll talk to you in seven days. Thank you, Mike Palm.
30:32
Thanks fellas, have a great. Weekend.
30:33
Yeah, good to talk to you. Mike Palm, VP of operations at
30:37
Circus Sports. That that's crazy.
30:40
It truly is. Yeah.
30:42
Now this is a hypothetical of all hypotheticals for you, OK,
30:45
Because it's not going to happen with ferrets or Campbell, right.
30:48
But would we like that if a story like this in our backyard?
30:52
We love content. Yes.
30:55
Yes, I think for that reason we would, right?
30:59
You know, You know what? I'm not sure because I feel
31:00
squeamish even talking about it because I'm an old man, right?
31:04
And I can't. It's just.
31:07
Creepy. The creepy factor, the ick
31:10
factor. That's the part that gets me.
31:13
It's my mind every single time these things happen.
31:17
And then we get the release back from North Carolina.
31:19
Responding to it today is. Distraction after another.
31:24
Is. Is he being manipulated?
31:25
Is. I think I'm pretty sure how she
31:30
does it. Right, we we get that that part
31:33
of it is the easy part, but it's something mentally.
31:38
Well, how about all the properties she's accumulated
31:40
since they got together the the mental?
31:42
She's. Loaded all of a sudden.
31:45
That's the concerning part is how nefarious is this?
31:49
I don't know. That's why I was thinking, would
31:51
this, would we like this in our backyard?
31:54
I think the answer is no. For content it would be great.
31:59
It would be. But to have to talk about it
32:02
every single day, every single detail.
32:04
Right that. Wouldn't be great for us.
32:07
No, no, it wouldn't be great for us.
32:10
I. We're meat and potatoes, not a
32:13
whole lot of wiggle. Nope.
32:15
Nope. Not at all.
32:16
All right, take your time out, come back, finish up the
32:18
program. Our week is almost done.
32:21
Trent Condon, you'll make some plays.
32:24
How did you do yesterday with your picks?
32:26
I mean, you clobbered Minnesota, the T Wolves.
32:28
You couldn't. The alt lines were flying.
32:30
Well, we cruised with the Tigers in game one of the doubleheader
32:33
-164 and we got the Capitals plus 1:45.
32:37
That is 3 and O 2 perfect days this week, 5 and O Monday.
32:41
And then Wednesday. Wednesday 3 and O let's and.
32:44
What were you on? Tuesday, 2:00 and 4:00.
32:46
Two and four and there was a two and three at Wednesday.
32:48
So last night. Thursday was 3 and O2 perfects 2
32:52
under 5 hundreds. So a winning day would be a
32:54
winning week if you can put one together here today.
32:57
Well, don't hold your breath, but we'll see what we can do.
32:58
That's next. Circus Sports sponsors Miller
33:01
and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
33:12
Hi, Millory Condon, Welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio Network.
33:15
Our final segment again the drive this afternoon.
33:18
Lucas and Sean are at Shields at Jordan Creek doing their show
33:22
this afternoon from 2:00 until 5:00 at Jordan Creek in West Des
33:27
Moines. Sunday night baseball is
33:30
Phillies and the Guardians best series of the weekend.
33:36
Maybe Mets cups. Oh, I think so.
33:40
Pretty pretty easily for me. What else?
33:44
Red Sox, Royals. Royals are playing well.
33:47
Royals are playing well. Red Sox are going the other way.
33:50
Reds, Astros. Maybe a cursory glance at that
33:53
one. When do the White Sox and the
33:55
Rockies play? I don't know.
33:58
Oh my God. Do they are they matched up?
34:01
I'm sure they are. They play everybody.
34:02
Oh, that's right, yeah. At some point.
34:04
Yuck. Yeah, that's for sure.
34:06
I'll be watching my twins who are showing signs.
34:10
I, I think you're right. Yep, I think you're right.
34:12
That division's going to be tough.
34:13
I think it's going to be a fight to the end.
34:15
Obviously, the White Sox don't factor in, but the Tigers are
34:18
off to a terrific start. Cleveland's Cleveland.
34:23
You're Twins in the Royals. Twins won five in a row.
34:26
Royals won six in a row. Tigers have won four in a row.
34:29
That's amazing. Guardians won two in a row.
34:31
Guardians of those teams only won with a negative run
34:34
differential, which normally says they're going to pull back.
34:37
But that's not what Cleveland does.
34:38
How far are the Twins off off to the division lead?
34:40
7. Is it that?
34:42
Many. Well, the Tigers are 25 and 13.
34:43
That's amazing. Is that the best record in
34:45
baseball? Has to be?
34:46
It's the best lead, best in the American League by a long shot.
34:49
And yes, it's the best in baseball.
34:51
Good God, good for them. Baez is hitting the ball a
34:55
little bit. You know what I'm?
34:56
Glad you brought that up. You're 1000 and he's and he's
34:59
fielding his position pretty well too.
35:02
Maybe the demise of Javi Baez was greatly overstated.
35:05
Couple of shout outs for this weekend.
35:07
Had one of our listeners, his daughter's getting ready to
35:10
pitch this afternoon for D Mac. Oh yeah, they're two wins away
35:14
from making the JUCO College World Series, so shout out to
35:17
the Bears, who are tremendous here.
35:19
They're 53 and five this year. That's incredible.
35:23
You and I softball, if you'll ever get the game.
35:24
I was watching the first semifinal down at Drake for the
35:27
MVC softball tournament. They're still in a delay because
35:30
there's something wrong with the pitcher's mount.
35:32
How does that happen? No idea it's not weather
35:35
related. Now, do they put a new mound in?
35:37
And it's not suddenly, I don't know what it was, but you and I
35:40
this afternoon, Iowa State this evening, 5:30, they get Arizona
35:44
in the semifinals in the Big 12. So a lot going on here as we
35:47
make our way through the spring with a lot of local flavor.
35:50
And we are just a couple weeks away from softball and baseball,
35:53
high school season starting up. Really.
35:56
Practice is underway and we'll be out there on the diamond
35:58
coming up just a few weeks away. From having a three day weekend
36:02
which moves my needle. Oh, you like that?
36:04
I do like that. What are you betting on today?
36:06
I'm betting from principal park, OH.
36:10
Oh yeah? Are you going to the game
36:12
tonight? Not tonight, not able to make it
36:14
tonight. I'm hoping we're going to be
36:17
able to make it tomorrow. Gotcha.
36:18
Sunday's up, we got Mother's Day plans.
36:22
Oh, right. Mother's Day.
36:23
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't get anything for
36:25
Cindy. Well, is she my wife?
36:27
She's a wife, but she's also a mother.
36:28
She is, yes. You're married to her?
36:31
We are, yes. So just do a little.
36:34
So I think you're probably right, yeah.
36:36
Maybe a stop on the way home? No.
36:37
We'll figure something out, though.
36:40
I got to get to Prairie Meadows, man.
36:41
That's the guest picker in that paddock tonight.
36:44
You're going to be out there united.
36:45
Horse racing, it's going to be a busy one.
36:47
I am going to bet the Hawkeyes I'm going to lay the -1 over.
36:50
Mueller obviously gets the ball the three pitching matchups when
36:53
he just take a look at the starting.
36:54
Yep, Iowa has the advantage in all three, in all three of them.
36:57
The problem? Oregon State's bullpen is
36:59
outstanding and their lineup. That's why they're a top 1015
37:03
team. Is there any TV of this?
37:04
Probably not, huh? It's BTN plus.
37:06
I don't have that. I know the BTN plus, so that's
37:09
disappointing that that's what we're going to get out there.
37:12
So get a play Iowa, though, in game one, lay the -110 that you
37:15
can find at circa other places you're laying a little heavier
37:18
juice. Play it circa other bets for
37:21
today. Give me the Braves -140 tonight
37:24
in Pittsburgh against the Pirates.
37:26
And NHL didn't really didn't have anything that I loved.
37:31
NBA didn't like the early game. I'm going to take the Nuggets,
37:34
though, in a zigzag bounce back plus 5 1/2 at home.
37:40
So win outright. Or you could just grab the
37:41
points and have it be safe. I'm just going to grab the
37:44
points. I think this is going to be a
37:45
compelling game down to the wire young team against a team that
37:49
yes, it's better than them, but still going to Denver, see the
37:53
maybe the altitude has something to do with it.
37:55
I'll take the Nuggets +5. And a half, I'm guessing the
37:58
Florida Panthers are a big favorite tonight over the Leafs.
38:01
Yeah, they have to win. They're down to zip.
38:03
It was huge. What was it?
38:05
NHL -235. Really.
38:08
Yeah. You ever want to do that in a?
38:10
Playoff game? Nope, Nope, Nope.
38:12
Not for me. Not in the opening round.
38:14
No Jets favored. They are -135.
38:18
Well, they got the complete roster going tonight, so.
38:21
Get it done. Let's get a happy Ken coming in
38:24
next week. That's going to do it for us.
38:26
Thanks for being with us, we appreciate it.
38:28
Have fun at Prairie. I will.
38:29
Looking forward to stop by and say I'll be in the paddock
38:31
picking horses throughout the evening.
38:33
It's opening night. We'll see you on Monday.
38:35
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