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- 0:59Drama Drama, Darling, Drama Darling. Hello and welcome back, Darlings.
- 1:15It's Tuesday, and I hope you had a great, great weekend long
- 1:21weekend that is, there was no show yesterday Today We're back to do Jersey
- 1:26and guess who's joining me done in a very special sweatshirt. It's Emily Jeresa
- 1:30Hi, Hello, Hello, one and all. I'm wearing my Gia song
- 1:36to Milania with full lyrics sweatshirt. Wow. Wow, what a psycho gorgeous
- 1:42piece given to me by friend of the pod Jessica Joy. Jessica Joy,
- 1:49Boy, what a gorgeous gift to give one gorgeous California go And I have
- 1:55to say, now, is this from I'm guessing this is Milania's or no,
- 2:00this is Jia's line came out when it went viral, right, yeah,
- 2:05no, this is uh straight up well, you know she hasn't gone
- 2:10into printing her own lyrics on shirts yet from childhood. No are you sure?
- 2:16No? Because she had a whole line because remember went viral on TikTok,
- 2:20right, and then she did it and then she did a whole line
- 2:23of of merder. You're so right. I am so wrong, and I
- 2:28don't think this is from that line, but Jessica Joy front of the pod
- 2:32can correct me. Now let me ask you piece. So that was before
- 2:38it even went viral, which says a lot about the depth that this goes
- 2:42back. So you've been holding onto that for a while, Yes, I
- 2:46have. Okay, so this is pre viral resurgence. When it came back,
- 2:52this is like yeah, wow, really solid piece. Then, I
- 2:55mean this is like you know, if you would thrift this, you'd be
- 2:59like, this is a fine it is a find, but it's an I
- 3:01think I think it's just a simple Etsy piece, Like I think you could
- 3:07all find it and not pay those premium GA prices. Yes, but the
- 3:12fact that you got it before viral, like ev you know, like that
- 3:17says a lot. So you know, shout out. I mean jess got
- 3:21it for the lyrics, like she's in it for the right reason. She
- 3:24did show for the right reasons. And also like special shout out to jess
- 3:28friend of the show, who has a great show in Chicago. Let's give
- 3:32her a little plug. I mean, yeah, plug the Chicago darlings.
- 3:36I know you're there. June twenty six at Io, Chicago, Jessica Joy
- 3:42one night only solo show. She's gonna sing, she's gonna dance, she's
- 3:46gonna tell some jokes. I don't know if she's doing any of those things,
- 3:49but it's a funny show. It will be sure she will. She
- 3:52is a singer and she's a dance and she's a dancer and she's a comedian
- 3:55and an improviser. So you're gonna get like a quadrue threat there. Yeah,
- 4:01one night only, gosh, yess. I mean maybe if you all
- 4:05go and show up and support, you know, we'll get another night only,
- 4:09you know, just another night only. Also, there's some other shows
- 4:15coming to Chicago if they are already. Oh yeah for me, So I
- 4:21produced Baby One's Candy at Second City as well as sh Hamilton, the improvised
- 4:28version of Hamilton. So you could go and yell out, Gia Judae and
- 4:32they will do a Hamilton style show of ga, oh my gosh, Shamblton,
- 4:39not the other one, got it? Not at Hamilton. Don't yell
- 4:44out? Ye? Actually do? Actually do? I'd love to see how
- 4:49they handle that. Yeah, I would too, actually, So Haley,
- 4:54Manuel Miranda, you know that new show you're looking for Jedi. So that's
- 5:04Fridays and Saturdays at Second City in Chicago. Hot stuff, hot stuff,
- 5:11it's our old stomping grounds. Really, all that gorgeous California Memorial Day over
- 5:16here up in Santa Clarita. If anyone knows where that is. Nia,
- 5:19don't move here, you will be isolated. Anyone else who's willing to make
- 5:25new friends, come on up But I see. I think Nia would love
- 5:29it. I think she would immediately be in the middle of everything because she's
- 5:34got three little kids, and that is that is that Santa Clarita, Ya
- 5:39immediately have a network. No, she won't immediately have a network. No,
- 5:44it takes time. No. Look, I said this last week on
- 5:48the show. I said, I stay. Oh okay, I didn't go
- 5:55ahead tell me that she should not move up here yet. I think because
- 6:00she has such such little, little little ones, when it's time for them
- 6:03to get into like kindergarten, first grade, I'd say kindergarten, come up
- 6:09here and get it started. Because then, and plus, she's too emotional,
- 6:14she's got some postpartum she cannot having a big change like that would be
- 6:17too traumatic. I say, stay in the valley for a few more years,
- 6:21then come on up here when things have settled down and she feels a
- 6:26little bit more, you know, you know better about everything. And and
- 6:30I stand by that. I think that's really important. Community is really important.
- 6:33She can't take that risk right now. I think it it takes time
- 6:36to get plugged in. It took me, you know, you know,
- 6:40a couple of years. I was already ready to like make friends and make
- 6:44new connections. And that's easy for me to do because I can be very
- 6:48outgoing, you know what I mean, and it's not really easy for a
- 6:50lot of people. So I don't have a problem reaching out, So it
- 6:55didn't take that much time for me. However, it's not always going to
- 6:58be like that for everybody if not willing to put yourself out there. So
- 7:01that being said, we had a gorgeous California Memorial Day and a couple of
- 7:08the families that we hang out with came over on Saturday and we just like
- 7:13grilled and hung out and the kids went nuts. I mean they were here.
- 7:16They were up till like eleven. You know. I think the party
- 7:19didn't until eleven, which says a lot for these little six year olds.
- 7:24And they went from fashion show to fashion show. We were mermaids, we
- 7:29were fairies. They were painting their own faces, which, now that I
- 7:33think about it, I should have gotten the face paint out, But why
- 7:38bother Maddie has her own little like lipstick palette of all these different colors,
- 7:43and she has a villain makeup kit that we use when she was Ursula for
- 7:47Halloi. Right. Yeah, they came out, which I didn't expect.
- 7:51We did not know that they had gotten into the makeup. And they came
- 7:55out full face, their faces beat to the gods, and then they would
- 8:01take it off and rebeat and they would rebeat, and I mean it was
- 8:05on. Are your towels just covered in spe A lot a lot of them.
- 8:11But I gave them my makeup wipes and I was like, oh God,
- 8:15here we go. We're going to go through all the rest of my
- 8:16makeup wipes. I didn't have any and I was like trying to parcel them
- 8:20out in like one each, you know. And then the next thing I
- 8:22know is just an empty neutrigina makeup wipes on the ground and I'm like,
- 8:26I don't have any more left. No, So then they had to get
- 8:31into the paper towels and the soap and then the towel. Yeah, it
- 8:35was kind of a mess, but it wasn't as bad as you think.
- 8:37A lot of vacuuming, love spot cleaning after that. But you know what
- 8:43hashtag no regrets. Yeah, they had the time. That's great, So
- 8:48that's awesome. They will remember that for a year. Yeah, yeah,
- 8:54two months tops, two months. But we we do have a little bit
- 9:00of news to get into before we get into Jersey today. First of all,
- 9:05over the weekend, what popped up for me, really jumped off the
- 9:09page was that Jax Taylor was out with a new model girlfriend, Page Woolen,
- 9:18at La at an La lunch after the split with Brittany I'm looking at
- 9:24the sun. There are pictures of he and Page Woolen. It's been almost
- 9:31five years of marriage and they announced their separation in March. He was spotted
- 9:37with her. They went on a three hour lunch date together. Seems like
- 9:41there were a lot of cameras around to catch this, and there is a
- 9:46video circulating around today where Page makes a joke about oh and I'm pregnant.
- 9:52This is an OnlyFans model. She was picked up at her house in a
- 9:56limousine. This is also weird. It says Jackson's new love interest had their
- 10:03drivers show for them to the cafe for a three hour lunch. Afterword,
- 10:09Page dropped off Jack's at the Jackson's studio City Bar. That's where they had
- 10:13some of the pictures in the video. That's what I saw. This model
- 10:16is known for being an explicit Internet personality who shares raunchy photos and videos via
- 10:24TikTok and Instagram. I'm a little beside myself because Brittany shared some cryptic Instagram
- 10:30stories where she's like, you'll be better at the end of this and just
- 10:33wait till you see who you're going to become, and you know, like
- 10:37a lot of these generalizations. She also went out saying like, leave my
- 10:43kid out of this, because I guess people are attacking her kid for being
- 10:46on the show and the way they're parenting. So she clapped back about that
- 10:50that's a separate thing. Now let's break this down. So obviously this is
- 10:56a real photo op. This is a real pr in my opinion, whether
- 11:01it's a stunt or it's real, or it's both. To me, this
- 11:05is weird because I think to myself, could Jacks go this far just for
- 11:13a hot storyline for the show? Okay, because that's all I see.
- 11:18And then I'm like, but Brittany, why, It's like, I don't
- 11:22trust Jack's I could see him doing this all for the show. But then
- 11:26Brittany, I have a level of trust with her where I would be like
- 11:31you, she wouldn't do this to us, but she would have to be
- 11:35in on this in order to go along with it, in order to get
- 11:39back together with Jacks, should they get back together. I don't know where
- 11:43my head is with this. I think it's legit, and I think that
- 11:48what we're seeing here is somebody that's matching Jack's with Jacks in this page Gal.
- 11:54I think page is like, I'm going to ride this thing for everything
- 11:58I can get out of it. So we're going to do a three hour
- 12:01meet and greet in terms of it's not a meete, and you know,
- 12:09she's not in it for anything other than the the publicity. And I can't
- 12:16imagine she's actually that into Jack's No. Yeah, So so I think it's
- 12:22like a it's like a publicity rebound, and and I hope that Brittany is
- 12:30legit not into this and this is the thing that it takes for her to
- 12:33get away from Jacks and the difference, and so yeah, I do think
- 12:39there's going to be a split up. There is going to be a new
- 12:41season of the Valley. We're now going to have two couples that are speaking,
- 12:45But I think with Jax and Brittany, they will film together and we'll
- 12:52see like that, that's not it's not gonna be like Arianna and Tom right
- 12:56right, Yeah, they will co parent together. We'll see them argue to
- 13:00other. Yeah, And I keep like anybody that legit is with Jacks from
- 13:05this point forward, I'm gonna I always give Britney a pass for being in
- 13:09the middle of the boondocks and being kind of taken out by this Hollywood star
- 13:13and putting silver lining on that for her as a kid basically not she wasn't
- 13:18a kid, but she was so young and naive. But from this point
- 13:22forward, it's like, you see Jacks for everything he's worth. You've seen
- 13:28him at his very best, which was with Brittany. So if you're legit
- 13:31going for Jacks, I have nothing for you. If you're doing it for
- 13:37publicity, god bless, that's great, awesome. Well that's the only person
- 13:39that's gonna go for him is somebody who's I'm sorry on only fans and is
- 13:45willing to do a three hour press tour and make jokes like I'm pregnant.
- 13:50Right, Well, I mean that's yeah, that's perfect. They're gonna be
- 13:54last six months and it's gonna be great to say. I know this is
- 13:58really Nike to say, and I am just gonna be transparent. But I
- 14:03honestly thought on some level that Jax would never really go down and dirty and
- 14:13as low as he used to after getting married and having a kid. I
- 14:16didn't expect him to go as low as he's going right now. I really
- 14:22didn't. I had higher hopes for him. Jackson has left Change at Spots.
- 14:26Yeah, Jacks has left the building. Jacks has tried to be a
- 14:33good guy, and what happened he was basically shut out of reality TV,
- 14:39and not because he got a soft cancel as well, but in terms of
- 14:43like being a good guy, being a good father and a good husband and
- 14:46checking all the boxes in those categories, it didn't work for him. Yeah,
- 14:50the first entry he gets back into this world, he's gonna be full.
- 14:54Jacks blown out to the tens. So he's not. I don't think
- 14:58we're going to he has to be. It's so crazy to me. I
- 15:05mean, well, I couldn't live like that. I couldn't operate where I'm
- 15:09hated around the world. I mean of you know, it's like Tom Sandoval
- 15:15and Jack's are just the exact same person in that they're such straight up narcissists
- 15:20that they're willing to burn everything down and it doesn't hurt them, like deep
- 15:26down, it just does not. There's no blood after they get cut.
- 15:31Yeah. The only thing that here's Wow, I never thought i'd say this,
- 15:33but the only thing that makes Jacks a little better than Sandoval is like
- 15:37you can at least look at his his why, and you can see that
- 15:43he loves his kids so much, and you can see that he wants to
- 15:46support the kid. And also like, are you okay, go on,
- 15:54it's so good, Brett, we need ice. Yeah, So I can
- 16:00at least give it to Jacks that he has to keep this out of ten
- 16:03in order to support Cruise and his and and now Dom's how you would justify
- 16:10it. I mean I didn't justify it. Yeah, yeah, but this
- 16:15is hurting his kid. What what I see hurts him? Like him going
- 16:21out and gallivanning around with another woman is hurting his child. But they're separated,
- 16:29right And Brittany left Jack's because Jax drove her away. I mean you
- 16:33can watch that footage. I don't she should not be with him. It's
- 16:37a it's a tough call. I don't know, I really as much as
- 16:42like, yes, it would be nice for Cruz to have two parents.
- 16:45I don't want Cruise growing up on watching Jack's talk to Brittany like that either,
- 16:52Right. I just can't get over how blatant this is as a setup
- 16:56and a publicity ploy like. But at the same time, I also thought
- 17:03before the Valley started, when Britney moved out and she's holding the toilet paper
- 17:07and she's walking out, I thought that was all a setup, even though
- 17:10I know it was a setup for the paparazzi, but I also still didn't
- 17:15really believe that it was happening. I thought they were doing it for the
- 17:18show, and it actually was happening. Whereas now I look at this and
- 17:22I say, this can't actually be happening where they're together, you know,
- 17:26like they're not. They can't be This is such a setup to get us
- 17:30interested, and it's you know, but then again, what do I know?
- 17:36Yeah, well, person, and this is this is obviously happening,
- 17:40And I'm just having such a hard time wrapping my head around it because I
- 17:42can't believe he'd be this horrible anyway, I don't know why. I know
- 17:49that's crazy hope for people to change, but I I didn't know. I
- 17:53have egg on my face. Oh my god, it's so much egg and
- 17:56no nutrit gino wipes get it off? Oh, not not a one.
- 18:00Not a one. So the thing I keep going back to when I watched
- 18:07The Valley Now too, is like if there was a if the roles were
- 18:12reversed and you had a wife that had the drinking problem or a husband that
- 18:19had the drinking problem, and the wife and I don't even know if it's
- 18:22a drinking problem. It's just like maybe an allergy to alcohol. Who knows,
- 18:26But like, yeah, yeah, I'm just saying the way he talks
- 18:30to her at a constant rate. If Jackson was a woman talking to a
- 18:33husband like that, right, we would, the entire world would. She
- 18:38would be the worst villain of all time. But for some reason, we
- 18:45all just are like, oh, Jack's what an asshole? Anyway, what's
- 18:49on deck for Jacks? Right? Yeah, you make a great point,
- 18:55And I also appreciate that people are not standing for it on some level.
- 19:00I mean, they really are going hard in on Jack's Yeah, but we
- 19:06need him. But I think if it was a woman, we would not
- 19:08need it be like stop, get it, get her away like she was.
- 19:12You know, the misogynistic world that we live in, you know,
- 19:15and I hate it. Yeah, I couldn't anyway, I agree. Gosh,
- 19:22just wow. I just want to do a quick broad stroke about the
- 19:30Craig and Kyle thing with Lover Boy and Society Sprits. The two gals that
- 19:40host the podcast The Toast. Excuse me, the two girls that host the
- 19:45podcast The Toast spoke about this and I had no idea that they were one
- 19:52of the investors behind Society Sprits, and so they had a lot to say,
- 19:59and they did a whole podcast. So if you want to hear their
- 20:00side of it, please listen to one of their recent podcasts. But it
- 20:06was super interesting. And what's wild is that they stand They obviously stand behind
- 20:11Craig. They don't consider him a liar as Kyle had said he was.
- 20:17And what's interesting is that when we were discussing this at the Summerhouse Recap with
- 20:22all the darlings last week, who were amazing by the way I had posed
- 20:29the question, well, we all agreed, like we want to hear the
- 20:33other side of the story. We need to hear Craig's side, or we
- 20:34need to hear from Page. Well, we got best of both worlds.
- 20:38We heard from the ladies who started this Sprits. They have investors, they
- 20:44have people that they get to be like brand ambassadors, and then that's how
- 20:51they kind of like share the money and they you know, it's a whole
- 20:53different structured company to how they market their Sprits. Whereas Kyle for lover Boy,
- 21:00does not have that. He is his own investor. He puts up
- 21:03the money. That's that and so he doesn't have anybody out there that's like
- 21:11sponsoring it or going on their social media and selling it. Right. But
- 21:15that's what Craig would be to this Society Sprits. One of the questions that
- 21:19I posed was is it possible that Craig asked Kyle and that sit down before
- 21:26he signed on the dotted line with Society. I'm about to sign on the
- 21:30dotted line with Society. What do you have to offer me with lover Boy,
- 21:33Because I'd rather partner with you or I'd rather invest in your company than
- 21:37go over here. And I just want to be on the up and up
- 21:41and tell you this and can I be a part of lover Boy. Apparently
- 21:45that did happen, and because Kyle doesn't run his company that way, he
- 21:51had nothing to offer him, so Craig went and took the opportunity somewhere else.
- 21:55Anyway, that being said, there's a lot that they talked about and
- 21:57you can hear it on their podcast. But I thought that was super interesting,
- 22:00so the story will continue to be told. Very interesting. I saw
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- 24:56on into our recap of New Jersey. But duh wow, Okay, things
- 25:03are really heating up on Jersey. The alliances are solidifying themselves. We have
- 25:10a couple of players that keep bouncing around and they're about to land on their
- 25:17respective sides. And I'm talking about those players being a little bit up in
- 25:21the air and they're gonna land. Are Jen Fessler and Jackie Goldschneider, who's
- 25:26coming in hot from the side as a friend of who really wants to just
- 25:30you know, put that saddle on and get giddy up and get back in
- 25:34on that main cast. How are you feeling about that? I'm I gotta
- 25:37get hats off to Jackie because she is the sleeper horse. I didn't see
- 25:42coming up the bag. No, like I thought she was done. Yes,
- 25:48And pay attention, all you friends of all you demoted cast to friends
- 25:55of this is how you do it. You align with another cast member and
- 26:00do a podcast and Rob and I need you to listen like I do think
- 26:06like once you're off the show, and you know, I think for example,
- 26:11like Jackie didn't. It was almost as though it seems as though she
- 26:18never stopped filming. She just kept shots on goal. Yeah, and now
- 26:23she is a domino in this game, like she is going to make some
- 26:27key moves. They have to film with her. She's a main player,
- 26:32even though she's a friend of She's making main player moves and apologetically. Now
- 26:38the question is is it thirsty? Absolutely? Is it clawing for you know,
- 26:47holding the meatball? Absolutely most certainly, But does it make for good
- 26:51television? And I think the answer is yes, so I'm willing to forgive.
- 26:59Well, look since like talk well last episode of Jersey, like I
- 27:03feel like we we were like thirsty not thirsty, And then afterwards I kind
- 27:07of thought about it and I'm like, you know what, put I guess
- 27:11you got to put thirst on the back burner because there is a bliss point
- 27:14for that that we need to have that everybody. There has to be everyone.
- 27:18Yeah, but it's about relevance and authenticity, and so with that,
- 27:23I'm like, no, this feels Jackie is offering something relevant and it feels
- 27:29authentic. So doesn't I don't know. Okay, what is authentic about her
- 27:33aligning yourself with Teresa? Her whole angle with coming on the show originally was
- 27:40in fact, you know, she took Teresa down a peg and that was
- 27:44respectable in my eyes. That seemed like a game plan for her. Again,
- 27:51a game plan smart, yeah, absolutely, because everyone's afraid of Teresa.
- 27:56So when Jackie came on board, she was like, I'm going to
- 27:59be the person who's not afraid to her of her. I'm going to be
- 28:00the person who's gonna call her a criminal. I'm gonna be the person who
- 28:03brings up prison tacky. Sure, you know whatever, but she knows how
- 28:08to push buttons. So now her coming back in after she was let go
- 28:14and now aligning herself with Teresa and all of a sudden having that angle,
- 28:18to me, is the same kind of angle she came in with. And
- 28:21it's a ploy for television. So as far as authenticity, I can't.
- 28:26I can't go there with you, but I'll respect your your you know see,
- 28:34I think it is authentic because I think we're we're seeing authentically how Theresa
- 28:38can reverse a person like and I want to know what means interesting this hard
- 28:45like. I don't think we know the full story obviously in terms of this
- 28:51whole thing coming together. But if we don't, you're right, You're right.
- 28:56So that's why I want to know more. And that's what I'm talking
- 28:59about being authentic. I'm not talking about Jackie. I'm just like, am
- 29:03I authentically curious because it seems like something natural happened here that I need to
- 29:07know more about. I'll tell you exactly what that was. Teresa figured out
- 29:12on some level that Jackie was willing to, you know, be cool with
- 29:17her, and Teresa knows that she could use another soldier in the army and
- 29:23taking one from Margaret's team. I mean, it's as simple as that red
- 29:27rover, red rover. Let Jackie come over and I am here. Don't
- 29:33get me wrong, I'm here for it. But h Jackie, you know,
- 29:40she switched teams, and she switched teams fast, and that is sus
- 29:44Well, but did she switch teams that fast? Yeah, because this was
- 29:49like three years ago. I mean, that's that's a that's like it because
- 29:55they did put the time stamp of when she and that was like twenty twenty
- 29:59one, that that was her last season. You mean, well when she
- 30:03said the criminal stuff, oh right, Teresa. Yeah, but then she
- 30:07was never really good with Teresa. She was kind of in and out with
- 30:11Teresa for like a long time, and she could never get They could never
- 30:14get on the same page, and Teresa was always coming for her. So
- 30:18it did last a long time. It lasted for her time on the show.
- 30:22I don't think when Jackie left the show that she and Teresa were in
- 30:26a good place. Yeah, because Jackie was always on the side of like
- 30:30the Margaret you know, and see now when the thing that I found very
- 30:37compelling was that the way that Jackie sees it. In my opinion is that
- 30:42I think Jackie sees Teresa and Margaret as the same, like two heads of
- 30:48each side of the mafia, you know. And that's why when Jackie said
- 30:53something along the lines of I don't see myself as one of Margaret's minions.
- 31:00I don't feel beneath her anymore. I feel like I'm my own person.
- 31:03Writing made me a stronger person. As she's talking about her book, I
- 31:07found that to be authentic. Writing became let her become a stronger person.
- 31:12I love that, and I love that she wrote a book. I love
- 31:17that she is coming into her own and saying, you know what, I'm
- 31:22going to experiment with this side of the coin over here and see if it's
- 31:26much different than what I experience with Margaret. And there are people who do
- 31:30argue that Margaret and Teresa are similar and that they're pulling the puppet strings and
- 31:36that they're the ones who are heading up, you know, their little mobs,
- 31:41And what do you think about that? I mean, I do see
- 31:44some similarities. I see some but I think, like I trust Margaret so
- 31:49much more than Teresa in terms of this hands down this world, well,
- 31:55hands down yeah, yeah, So I think like if I was going to
- 31:59align with somebody that would have my best interests, I would align with Margaret
- 32:05because whereas Teresa is really like the second the wind blows a different way,
- 32:10you're done for her in this world in terms of like the show until the
- 32:16show, until you can serve her on the show, which is why she
- 32:21brought Danielle Staub back. There was no reason she's been saying venom about her
- 32:25for years, but the second she didn't have many allies left on the show,
- 32:30she knew that would make for great television. She's not mad at it,
- 32:35but yeah, yeah, Teresa's really good at staying relevant, like one
- 32:39of the best. And so if that means that she's got a befriend someone
- 32:45that she I mean really, I feel like what is possible is at some
- 32:53point when Teresa's about to get fired, is like she makes amends with Melissa,
- 33:00yes, yes, yes, or they both are going to get off
- 33:06yes show. And now that would be the greatest thing ever that they if
- 33:10they get rid of Melissa and Teresa and they say you fight it, and
- 33:15they legitimately fight, youre them and they are off the show for an forever
- 33:21until off camera, they make up and they decide we got to get over
- 33:25this because we need this show more than yeah family. I would say if
- 33:30they fire both of them. I don't think they'd ever fire both, but
- 33:35they could fire Melissa first and then Teresa doesn't, and then Teresa becomes less
- 33:40and less interesting, and then Teresa brings Melissa back. That's how they get
- 33:45another season. As I say, yeah, oh, I just say,
- 33:51this season without them filming together and that tension, it's not bothering me.
- 33:55It is not bothering me that they're not filming together. No. I like
- 33:59when they went to the charity baseball event and she's like, go kiss your
- 34:04aunt and it made me sad. You know, it's still very sad,
- 34:08but at least you know we're all getting through it. Yeah, what was
- 34:14I gonna say? Oh, well, it doesn't matter, but I mean,
- 34:17I know, I'll think of it. Oh, I know what it
- 34:19was. Rachel Fuda is the only one standing up to Teresa as we're going
- 34:23to see, and that's kind of amazing. I mean, someone has to
- 34:28be the person that's going to stand up to Teresa. Jennifer Aiden and Melissa
- 34:35them talking and trying to figure this out. It's a lost cause it's a
- 34:39waste of everyone's time. There's no way that Melissa and jen Aiden can ever
- 34:45have any kind of relationship when jen Aiden is so incredibly stuck to Teresa and
- 34:55there's gonna be no loyalty shift, there's no it's a waste of time for
- 34:59them talk no way. I want to watch that. I want to watch
- 35:02I want to watch them keep trying, keep trying common ground. That is
- 35:07very entertaining to me. Okay, because jen Aiden's going to fire off all
- 35:13her cool meme sayings. It's not on my Pinko card, and Melissa's gonna
- 35:20actually be trying to like put her best face forward in terms of how America
- 35:24will see her, and it's gonna be because she's desperate. Yeah. Yeah,
- 35:29So I want to watch that. I'll watch that multiple times. All
- 35:32right, fair enough, fair enough? I get Yeah, Okay, I
- 35:35do too. I just think it's going to be a colossal Like obviously it's
- 35:38not going to go anywhere, because one to know why jen Aiden would never
- 35:42let it go anywhere. I think Melissa would be friends with with jen Yeah,
- 35:47but jen will never She was even like oh yeah, I mean yet
- 35:52I wouldn't be comfortable with Joe Gorga being there. No, no, no,
- 35:55and it's like, oh my god. You know, she just is
- 35:58already putting up because Jen will always go so hard for Teresa, and by
- 36:04doing that, she's just gonna like knock over Melissa any chance that she gets,
- 36:07which, yeah, entertaining, kind of funny. No, it's very
- 36:13entertaining. I completely agree. But I see the sides, you know,
- 36:17really fumbling. I'm seeing Teresa's side look strong, whereas Margaret's side is looking
- 36:27like they're getting kind of pummeled. Right now, they're all up in arms
- 36:30and you know Margaret's panicking. You can tell because we've got the whole Danielle
- 36:38Rachel Jen situation and that's all trying to sort itself out. So it's a
- 36:45very awkward moment right now this season where everyone's trying to figure out like where
- 36:50they're going to land and where their allegiances are. And that's the whole Jersey
- 36:53thing, which is like I don't care who you're friends with. Yes,
- 36:58I of course you care who I'm friends with. With the Jen Fessler thing,
- 37:00like there's so many balls up in the air, which is so perfect
- 37:04for this being the charity event with the balls being thrown. It's just very
- 37:09you know, the the metaphor was great. You should have warned me.
- 37:14Okay, you was a metaphor, but I did love that, Like,
- 37:17you know, people are really the the Jennifer Aiden and Teresa Camp, they're
- 37:23really doing a hard and fast job by drawing that line in the sand,
- 37:28and it's going all the way over to Bill Aiden, who's like not willing
- 37:32to really do or say much. To Joe Gorga. Yeah, but the
- 37:37fucked up thing is like Jen is also at the same time, Aiden trying
- 37:43to like loosen the soil under Danielle, like who they should be trying to
- 37:49keep in their grips, Yeah, but like should they should? But she's
- 37:53like, oh, who's who's that gal at the lunch? Oh? Lena?
- 38:00Yeah this was Elena. Huh. So, oh, Lena, did
- 38:02you you said something to me like it was so obvious. Remind me of
- 38:07that thing that you said about Danielle, Like only the only thing is I'm
- 38:14Danielle's hairdresser, and here is my story. It was just like so obvious,
- 38:20and so I thought, like, Jen, this is a bad move
- 38:23because like what do you you're gonna, Okay, you're gonna You're gonna get
- 38:28Danielle out. She's just gonna go to Margaret. And I think Danielle will
- 38:31fight very dirty, so she's going to get some shit on you. I
- 38:36think that that is. I am excited to see Danielle move to the Margaret
- 38:40camp because that's going to strengthen the numbers there. And I think Fuda is
- 38:46the strong character here too. So if you can get Danielle, Fuda,
- 38:52and Margaret together and we solidify that, I'm a little worried. Obviously at
- 38:58this point, we would have thought we'd have Fessler on that side. But
- 39:01she is. She's pulling, She's on that Jackie train, and she's heading
- 39:06on over to Teresa Town, you know, and it's happening, and she
- 39:09is going to be like, no, unapologetically heading over there. Because the
- 39:15second when they had that lunch and food is crying and Fessler's like, look,
- 39:21we had a very It sounded like they had a whirlwind romance the way
- 39:24that she was talking about their friendship. She's like, look, we went
- 39:28in hard and fast and like I came to you for Christmas and that meant
- 39:31a lot. But now It's like it felt like she was talking about a
- 39:35one night stand, you know, they have a friendship. And she's like,
- 39:38but if someone's nice to me or whoever she said this to, I
- 39:42don't know if it was the game. If someone's nice to me, I'm
- 39:45going to be nice back. Oh yeah, she said it to Margaret.
- 39:46If someone's nice to me, I'm going to be nice back. I'm not
- 39:49going to be looking for stirring up trouble. And Margaret's like, you don't
- 39:52understand, Like this is something that is a big deal. Are you sure?
- 39:58Are you sure that's you yourself? Yeah? And that is like literally
- 40:04it's mafia talk for like whose side are you taking here? Are you?
- 40:08This is gonna be the death of you if you're gonna allow this, like
- 40:12you are making a choice at this point in the season, and where we
- 40:15go from here is gonna say a lot. Yeah. And like when I
- 40:20was watching the Fessler Food to Lunch, I was thinking, like Fuda kinda
- 40:29cried wolf a little bit last season going so hard on Danielle for nothing,
- 40:32like it was like so nothing that I can't even remember, but she wouldn't
- 40:37let it go. Yeah, yeah, that's right, And does do that,
- 40:42but this is something. I mean, Louis did hire allegedly an investigator,
- 40:46Like this is actual something terrible. But I'm like, she's kind of
- 40:52like doing the same. I feel like she cried wolf last season, so
- 40:58now it's like a little bit like Fuda. But I actually, when I
- 41:00think about it, I'm like, no, this is like legit. She
- 41:02should be pissed. And the fact that Louie is like, oh, yeah,
- 41:08I'll meet with John Food if he apologizes to me, and I'm like,
- 41:14dude, what, Then there's the whole other thing where again I'm always
- 41:21going to be Devil's advocate. But like you said, Rachel kind of cried
- 41:24wolf, but also she does take it a little too far. So that
- 41:30makes me feel a little bit hesitant about going all in on her because I
- 41:34feel like she does want the drama. Then we've got Fuda, who's like,
- 41:37you know, shown up with the Manila envelopes and standing up to Louie
- 41:40and he's spouting off and then he's got the headshots on IMDb, So I
- 41:45have to kind of pull back on that. Fessler saying like I don't get
- 41:51I don't get it. I kind of understood where she was at where when
- 41:54she did have that one on one with Teresa, she was like, first
- 41:58of all, our converse was about me. Second of all, it was
- 42:04about you guys, and I did take up for you, and she really
- 42:07did. She did bring it up in that conversation. So I felt like
- 42:12Fessler really wasn't as guilty as Fudo was letting on. So I think Fuda's
- 42:19mistake here is overreacting on some level that Fessler did nothing to stand up for
- 42:24Fuda, and Fessler did. She did, so if she's smart, she
- 42:29won't go hard in on Fessler. She'll kind of be like, Okay,
- 42:32thank you for standing up for me. We'll see what happens in the future,
- 42:36and like give her a buy on that. Whereas now Margaret's calling it
- 42:39out in the locker room like who side are you on? Yehes, and
- 42:44it's like too soon for that. It's a little too soon, and they're
- 42:46going to shoot themselves in the foot because they need the numbers if they want
- 42:51to. And it seems to me like Margaret and uh, who else.
- 42:55I guess Fuda want to have a standoff against Teresa this season. Oh and
- 43:02Melissa, I'm sorry I forgot about Melissa, but I don't think she does
- 43:07well. Go ahead, and I don't think Melissa does want to stand off
- 43:09with No No. I mean they want to. They want to shut them
- 43:15out. They want to shut Teresa out so that they can move on without
- 43:19Teresa in the future. That's what I think the plan is, and I
- 43:22get it. So if they want to have this like standoff, meaning our
- 43:27camp is going to be strong in numbers so much so that we can film,
- 43:31we have to prove we can film on our own without having Teresa in
- 43:35the mix. They're stupid to shoot themselves in the foot so early in the
- 43:40season to give Fessor basically an ultimatum. In a way, it's not really
- 43:46an ultimatum, but it's like you got to choose it's us or them.
- 43:51And I think it's too soon for that because they're going to need the numbers
- 43:53to go against the Aiden and the Judy's camp because it's compelling television to watch.
- 44:01Well, I think that Margaret's side is not anti Teresa. There's I
- 44:09think they're afraid of Louis and what he is capable of. Okay, if
- 44:15the picture right, I think that the doors would all be Margaret would play
- 44:20yes, I agree. Margaret's been willing to play for the longest time.
- 44:24She's given Teresa many passes. Yeah, but but this is now, Louis.
- 44:30This is a different This is a different Battle of Brooklyn. Yeah,
- 44:35it's a different Battle of Brooklyn. I haven't even mentioned Dolores because her loyalty,
- 44:43we know, is with Teresa. But she she's like the only one,
- 44:46the only one that can get away with being in the middle of both
- 44:50groups, the only one and does it beautifully. It's unbelievable. Yeah,
- 44:57I mean a wonder she can handle ten dogs and two husbands. Yeah,
- 45:01two husbands, ten dogs and all that surgery. You know, it's like
- 45:07it's incredible. Have any darlings gone to this baseball game of four thousand people?
- 45:14Like I probably, it's a big charity event. Yeah, I got
- 45:19an invite and I was like, I'm on the West Coast. Sorry.
- 45:22Also, I wouldn't go. I would want to support, but I wouldn't
- 45:27go because it's just too I can't do these events and say what I want
- 45:31to say. But you could go and watch. No, Yeah, I
- 45:36guess I don't really feel like it. I mean I wouldn't want it,
- 45:38like go sit in yeah, I'm okay. I would I'd go watch the
- 45:42game, mainly because I would be so interested in terms of watching them film
- 45:47these scenes in the infield and get a vibe on how like, for example,
- 45:53Melissa walking over to jen Aiden's conversation with Bill and Joe and interrupting to
- 46:04then lay down our terms for a conversation like I not that I would be
- 46:08able to hear it from like the bleachers, but you'd see all the lights
- 46:15forming around them, and you'd be like, Okay, I'm just so interested
- 46:19in the producer tat Melissa and point over there, and then she walks over
- 46:24and like how long was that conversation? So things like that I would love
- 46:28to get a vibe on like this is because as producers, you're like,
- 46:32all right, we know this may be one of the only times we're going
- 46:37to get all these people together based on the current dynamics of the show,
- 46:42so we need to really do our best to get people talking. So I
- 46:46just would want to see how it was produced. That's how I would like
- 46:51to watch it live, And you'd need to be like in the dugout in
- 46:54order to see these conversations and the pointing of the producers. Well may be,
- 47:00but I think you could be first row and see a lot of this
- 47:02shit go down like just that. Maybe row definitely first row. You know.
- 47:07That's what I'd like to do, So please bring me on so I
- 47:09can do color commentary of how the show's produced. By the way, I
- 47:15have to mention that when Rachel and Jenfessler met for coffee or whatever it was,
- 47:20and they're ordering what, I don't know what this is, but they're
- 47:23like, yeah, the honey butt of toast bits and the cropples and the
- 47:28sacs and the the fucking show shows and like what ar these food things?
- 47:35Like a hybrid of waffles? And I'm oh, oh my god, I
- 47:38don't know what it is, but oh, you know what, Oh my
- 47:43god, you're so right. You know what they filmed their last year and
- 47:45it is something like that because I remember talking about it last year. You're
- 47:49so right. It's like, you're right. I forget what it is,
- 47:55but it's made in a waffle maker and it is a different substance, but
- 48:00it's made into a waffle. Thank you. Okay. You're also shout out
- 48:07to the large flower on Foodah's dress and her confessional. That's the style that
- 48:14we're going with because it's all about the florals these days. But you know,
- 48:20yeah, to each his own, it's it's a state. How how
- 48:23far down are we on the jen Aiden events where we're doing a first year
- 48:29dog party? Wow? But also like her daughter's dog, which I love.
- 48:37Jen Aiden's daughter is one of the child I could watch scenes with.
- 48:40She's great, great, and that she was like this gets my bitch.
- 48:47And I don't feel like jen is like egging her on. I don't get
- 48:52any of that. She's just entertaining. She is watched well, yeah,
- 48:54I mean look at her mom. I mean like, yeah, Jen's a
- 48:58great mom. I always we always talk about the Jersey moms are great and
- 49:01their kids are great. And we got to see both Antonia and uh Gabriella
- 49:09go away to college. Yeah, and the dropping them off and my god,
- 49:15if I did the University of Delaware, baby, yeah, it's so
- 49:19hard there because it's right, it's like fifteen minutes from where I grew up.
- 49:22Oh really, then back then you could do a lot of underage drinking
- 49:28at University of Delaware, So you didn't go there, you just partied there
- 49:32all the time. Oh wow, Oh my god Antonia is really in for
- 49:37it. Well, I mean I'm talking about like when I was in high
- 49:40school, we'd all go over to Newark and like you know, Stone Balloon,
- 49:45but like you could get into all these places. Then you can't now
- 49:49and then like the parties will carry over to the dorms. Yeah. Well,
- 49:52I love that Antonio has her bestie that she's rooming with. That is
- 49:57huge awesome. That would be every parent's dream. Like when they were leaving
- 50:04her there, I was like, oh, she's I would I felt good
- 50:07about Joe and Melissa leaving her there because she has her best friend and like
- 50:10I just was like, oh, this is so great. It made me
- 50:13feel so much more at ease, Whereas like with Gabriella at U of M,
- 50:19you know, it's definitely further away, and you know, she's not
- 50:22rooming with anybody that she knows, and I just felt like it was a
- 50:27harder thing. Yeah, especially if your kid is like on the celebrity radar.
- 50:32I would think that that would be kind of hard to deal with.
- 50:36Like it must be nice to have that barrier of protection in terms of just
- 50:40people like wanting an opportunity or just being hurtful it's just nice that her best
- 50:47friend is there. Yeah, it's it's great and it was very emotional.
- 50:52I did get choked up and I just thought, Wow, these kids are
- 50:54all grown up and oh my gosh, really really really sweet. Yeah.
- 51:01Also random, but at the at the Dog Party, the Puppy Party fashion
- 51:07show, Krispy Cream donuts were on the counter and they said, has custom
- 51:16donuts sticker on it. So I just want to mention that's really I respect
- 51:22that and I want to know more about that. And I love that they
- 51:24had custom Krispy Creams and that says a lot like that is a that's a
- 51:29serious flex in my book, because I love Krispy cremes. What event was
- 51:35supposed to happen that? Then? The producers were like, oh, you
- 51:38got a dog. Let's say it's the one year anniversary and we're gonna let's
- 51:45just do this. Wait, it was the one year anniversary of the dog.
- 51:47Is that what you're saying? The first birthday of the dog? Listen,
- 51:52this was right up the alley of housewives right, A puppy party,
- 51:57and the fact that they were getting mad about who was invited to the puppy
- 52:00party made it comical. You think that that was just a stuck in there
- 52:04and that there was a better event that that didn't happen. Yes, I
- 52:07do, Yes, I do. Also, it's Olivia's dog and there was
- 52:13not like any other kids there, right, there were no kids, so
- 52:19it's like clearly a housewife event. Yeah. And then there was a guy,
- 52:23the trainer. It was like the cover caneine. He was wearing his
- 52:28T shirt yep. But they never had had yeah, So I don't know,
- 52:34it felt like there was something else that maybe was going to happen,
- 52:37and then at the last minute they were like, uh, dog for first
- 52:42birthday. I don't know what if it was making up for something, but
- 52:52I think it was definitely a good party to have. But I love that
- 52:58Dolores Doloris's dog that she brought. Lady should have won the costume contest because
- 53:02Lady was dressed up like little Red Riding Hood and looked like the wolf,
- 53:07you know, so it looked like wolf in sheep's clothing. It looked like,
- 53:09you know, Red Riding Hood from the tail. I know, the
- 53:14wolf dress up like the grandmother, but he really looked like a wolf,
- 53:16and so I just thought that one was nailed. But so that was my
- 53:21vote. But of course Biscuit won, and that's fine. I do want
- 53:24to I remember seeing the party like a housewife event being promoted. Oh yeah,
- 53:32And so I'm really curious to hear more about this, about how Danielle
- 53:37asked them to be a part of this and Teresa and Jen and Dolores did
- 53:42it and they really like rocked hard for it and something happened. And I'm
- 53:47curious other than the VIP area that Lena was kicked out of, which did
- 53:53seem like kind of bullshit that they kicked her out of that. Yeah,
- 54:00yeah, I don't. I'm sure Danielle's gonna have some reason that right,
- 54:05it will make sense because that just seems way. I mean, maybe she
- 54:09doesn't. Maybe she is just a total jerk, but that just seems she's
- 54:15like, yeah, bad move, bad move. And Danielle is very sus
- 54:19to me too. I mean, she's got her she hasn't talked to her.
- 54:22I didn't realize that she hasn't talked to her dad any year. But
- 54:25we did hear like that her dad does pickups and sees the kids, but
- 54:30they don't talk. I didn't realize it in an entire year and her dad
- 54:34is not even coming to her fashion show. Her mom scheduled a cruise,
- 54:38which, listen, you know that's so people's schedules have, people have lives,
- 54:43you know what I mean. So I get it, but this is
- 54:46just very interesting. Yeah when when people I yeah, I mean I get
- 54:54family dynamics can be really weird. It's just uh that a as raises red
- 55:00flags, like with Teresa, you know, when they were at the Mammonade's
- 55:08charity event and Marge kind of stirs it up in the locker room and she's
- 55:14like, this one managed to go to the puppy party. Danielle's like,
- 55:19how did you manage to get invited to Jen's puppy party? And then Jackie's
- 55:22like, I'm friends with Jen. The only person I'm not friends with is
- 55:25you. Jen and I have been friends with since twenty eighteen. And I'm
- 55:28like, uh, you mean you're on a show together whatever. And then
- 55:35Danielle and then Danielle and Jackie are fighting, and you know, Jackie's like,
- 55:40Jackie is coming to Danielle going, you didn't invite me to a party.
- 55:45Big mistake, huge, because guess who's coming in and you need me
- 55:50on your team, and guess who's gonna fucking slay with the Tree team.
- 55:53Who's going to be a tree hugger this season? Guess what you did wrong?
- 55:58You wronged me. That's how I read that. Yeah, so it's
- 56:01gonna come down to Jackie and Danielle. That's who this season is going to
- 56:09go between, because one of them will lose. Yeah, I think.
- 56:15And now we have Margaret and Jackie going head to head and Jackie being like,
- 56:23uh, Margaret saying like, what have you done for me lately?
- 56:28It was the anniversary of ginst then everyone checked and made the chin check on
- 56:31me, and then Jackie's like, did you post about it? I'm like,
- 56:35ooh, wrong answer. And then Jack's like, well, I feel
- 56:38like you didn't give me the time of day anymore. And to me,
- 56:40I read through the lines, read between the lines, and that's Jackie saying
- 56:45after I was fired from Housewives, you didn't talk to me as much anymore.
- 56:50So I went where people did talk to me. And then Margaret's like,
- 56:53well, championed you for that book and you didn't even give me a
- 56:55copy. You gave it to Ginvesla. And then I'm like, we have
- 57:00to understand that at some point, and I don't know the timeline, but
- 57:06Jackie and Jen Fessler started a podcast together. So when Jackie explained, my
- 57:12publisher asked me to send it to people that I'm doing press with obviously that's
- 57:15her podcast partner. I don't know if that timeline is right, but it
- 57:20seems like that. But it is weird that Margaret kept asking her for the
- 57:23book and she never gave it to her. Because Margaret is a very She's
- 57:29an incredible resource. She does champion women. She is the definition of women
- 57:35supporting women. She will stick her neck out for you, she will give
- 57:39you the opportunity to be like she's always going to give you the benefit of
- 57:45the doubt at the beginning, and reminder you and I said, of all
- 57:49the housewives, if we had to go into business, we would go into
- 57:52business with Margaret absolutely because of those reasons. So I think it does seem
- 57:58a little dirty that somehow Jackie is pulling back from Margaret and not recognizing that
- 58:05Margaret was there for her when other people weren't. And that's something that I'm
- 58:08gonna have to hold against Jackie at this point, Like, Okay, you're
- 58:13now you're saying like you didn't give me the time of day when I left
- 58:15Housewives. She didn't say that, but I'm I'm hearing her say that,
- 58:20and I'm saying, Jackie, you don't understand people do get busy, that
- 58:24you do fall out a little bit when there's a shift in casting. That's
- 58:28totally normal. That doesn't mean that that doesn't erase what you had with Margaret
- 58:34before. And I do feel like you owe it to her to, you
- 58:38know, give back in that relationship. Yeah. Here, if anyone is
- 58:42offering to promote your book, give them your book. I mean, like
- 58:46that's that's like, I don't understand that because also show support, support,
- 58:52like you're supporting her. Yeah, Margaret would have done some socials on it
- 58:57would have been great. She probably genuinely want to read it and give her
- 59:00feedback or like, you know, I think that she Margaret is genuine like
- 59:05that. So I think that Jackie making a move away from Margaret is a
- 59:09weird one, and that's what makes me feel like it's not as authentic as
- 59:15it should be. But that being said, I think there are some authentic
- 59:20parts to it. And Margaret, you know, basically saying to Jen Fessler,
- 59:25I gotta be honest. Is this so you want to associate yourself with
- 59:30So she's calling out Jen and look, we're we're at the ballpark. We're
- 59:37at the ballpark and that's where that's where it all ends. Anyway, they
- 59:40raised two hundred thousand, and Dolores was playing for Gerty from Miami, which
- 59:45was a great crossover. And yeah, me, wonderful to see. And
- 59:49this charity event is unreal, great charity event that you will not attend and
- 59:55I will. Okay, you might be able to tug me into it if
- 1:00:00we go like in disguise and don't tell them that we're there. I just
- 1:00:02don't want to. My whole thing is I don't want to have to be
- 1:00:06like, oh, yeah, we're there, thank you for getting me tickets.
- 1:00:09Now I'm indebted to you because you will allow me to be a part
- 1:00:13of it. That's what I don't want to support it. I would buy
- 1:00:15a ticket, okay, so that the charity got the money. Agree?
- 1:00:20Agree? Is there anything else you want to talk about? Uh, yeah,
- 1:00:24let's just start at the beginning. No, I'm good, all right.
- 1:00:30Oh I do want to say one more thing. When Louis and Teresa
- 1:00:34are in that shooting room that set you know that they go into that fake
- 1:00:37bedroom. That's like, you know, we're in there again. And uh,
- 1:00:44Louis says, my conversation with John should be five minutes long. And
- 1:00:46I'm going says the guy who wanted to have a one on one and didn't
- 1:00:52want to do it at a party. And now you're saying it's got to
- 1:00:59be fat asked and it's got to be at this baseball thing. Mm hmmm,
- 1:01:04pick a side because now you're contradicting yourself. Yes, good point.
- 1:01:09And also that he would need him to apologize is crazy. But yeah,
- 1:01:15Also, Gia at that puppy party. She was at the puppy party,
- 1:01:22and did you notice every time that they answered the door, didn't matter who
- 1:01:25was answering the door, their voices were so high. And then when it
- 1:01:30was like hi, and then even then Bill answered the door for Gia and
- 1:01:34he's like hi, and then she was like, a you doing. I'm
- 1:01:39the godfather, where's your puppy? She is the godfather of Jersey and she
- 1:01:50boy, she locks it down. So she says, she's sitting next to
- 1:01:54Fessler and then she is like, yeah, you know, I even said
- 1:02:00to Louie like, well, hold on, let me get in my GA
- 1:02:01voice. Yeah, you know, I said to Louis, you're not acting
- 1:02:06like yourself. This isn't it's crazy. You're talking crazy. So she's even
- 1:02:14That was the first time ever heard Gia like actually say something out loud about
- 1:02:17Louie. By saying like this, doesn't you know she's noticing a side of
- 1:02:22Louie that doesn't seem like him. I appreciated her calling that out. Okay,
- 1:02:29very sad. Yeah, she's gonna be alpha by default, but go
- 1:02:32ahead, because nobody wants to fuck with somebody's kid. I don't care if
- 1:02:36she's thirty five, Like it's I know she's not thirty five, but I'm
- 1:02:38saying like people are going to yield to her because she loves somebody's kid.
- 1:02:45Yeah, and she deserves respect because she's the godfather. But so then Fessler
- 1:02:51says something like, boy, she went and talked crazy at that. I
- 1:02:54know, I'm not gonna say I'm not even going to bring it up because
- 1:03:00now I'm gonna bring it up exactly. But everything that's the thing that's causing
- 1:03:05the most trouble is Joe talking about Louis Louis talking about the brothers and the
- 1:03:12and and I'm not gonna say. I'm not gonna say and Jia oh man,
- 1:03:16did she snatch that those words right out of her mouth. She was
- 1:03:21like, we're not going to talk about that. You see it. You
- 1:03:24see what's not gonna happen is we're not going there. You know what I'm
- 1:03:29saying, Feslo, We're gonna have a problem. And Fessler shut her fucking
- 1:03:36mouth faster than I've ever seen, and she was like, alpha by default.
- 1:03:40Yeah, it's alpha by default. Like, no, everybody has an
- 1:03:45awareness of how they're gonna look going in on Gia, and nobody wants that.
- 1:03:50Nobody wants that on our Instagram and everything else for and till the end
- 1:03:58of time. They don't want to be seeing yelling out a child, because
- 1:04:00that's how we see Gia. Yeah, I don't see her as a child
- 1:04:02anymore. I see her as the godfather because now she's escally, she's gone
- 1:04:05from child to godfather. And even if you do see her as a child,
- 1:04:12you're still you're still going to see her as in control. She has
- 1:04:15the power right and now with her on their team formidable, maybe I don't
- 1:04:26know, I just don't think people will want to fuck with her. No,
- 1:04:30No, that's yes, film with her. Oh I don't think they
- 1:04:33think they like literally kid love her like they are just like, oh okay,
- 1:04:38then that's what I mean by default, Yes, okay, because cut
- 1:04:44her mouth. Yeah, and they she learned a real lesson because I'm like,
- 1:04:48you can't say that in front of you. She's not going to stand
- 1:04:51for it. You know. Oh I loved it. It was my favorite
- 1:04:55part actually. Oh yeah, yay. All right, so that's that.
- 1:05:04Well, listen, great episode. The allies are forming, the different sides
- 1:05:12are forming, and I'm excited to see it, happy to see it.
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- 1:05:28Is vander Pump Rules still on? Yeah, it's episode three of the
- 1:05:31reunion. Okay, got amy. You know, the Memorial Day weekend really
- 1:05:36threw me for a loop. I was very disconnected. So vander Pump Rules
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