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A musician’s journey through vaccine injury & recovery with Spaceship Earth · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  Welcome back to looking for healing radio.
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  We've got a very special guest this week.
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  His name is Ashton Robertson.
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  And he was injured by one of the COVID vaccines and is going to share his story of contracting a bunch of symptoms, both uh physiological and neurological.
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  And uh all the healing he's done so far, and just share his message that the vaccine injuries are not rare, they are real, and also you can heal from them.
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  Ashton, really pumped to have you here.
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  Really glad we could do this.
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  Yeah, thank you so much again for having me on.
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  Um really means a lot to me and uh vaccine injured community, and I'm super excited to well, relatively excited to share my story.
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  Yeah, I know that you have you know received a lot of hate, and we can get into that, but first I just want to backtrack it because I believe it was um April of 2021, right?
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  Um April 25th, 2021.
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  I had my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine.
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  I'd like to back it up just a little bit before that, right?
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  Um tell me about the circumstances leading up to that.
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  Was um were you like kind of like you know, chomp at the bit to go get it?
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  Were you hesitant?
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  Were you just kind of like, oh, I have to because of like what were the circumstances around you getting it?
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  Were you gung-ho for it?
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  Were you neutral?
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  Were you hesitant?
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  Like what was it like before that?
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  Yeah, um, appreciate you bringing it back um before um I was a little bit in the middle, I would say, you know, I was definitely skeptical and hesitant.
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  I had known a little bit about the corruption of Pfizer and all of that, but um, with like other pharmaceutical things they've done.
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  But I was in the middle, you know, um, I'm a musician, and a lot of the um the venues and you know, agencies were starting to require vaccines just to get into the shows and festivals and stuff, you know, we're doing only vaccine into the events or or social distance, whatever with these like guardrails and stuff.
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  So I, you know, essentially wanted to get out the way, and then I also um I had COVID um in 2020 pretty severely.
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  Um, you know, affected me a lot for the first month, and I had some lingering symptoms, and I was reading about how the vaccine could potentially help all out with long haul symptoms, which I'm not entirely sure was based on real science, but um, you know, those were kind of the things, you know, it's like I I you know, I'm definitely not a oh COVID isn't real kind of person because I had it and I, you know, I had one family member die, you know, so um I and that's a whole other conversation, really, but um yeah, I was kind of in the middle.
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  Okay, okay.
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  Um, and I'm just curious because you mentioned you know that you're a musician and that like a lot of the venues were requiring it.
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  Um was this like just locally?
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  Are you were you are you were you touring?
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  Like what was the the mindset on that?
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  Like, yeah, um, you know, during the pandemic, there really wasn't, you know, music music was kind of the biggest hit industries because there's you know, at least live music, and everything went to like live streaming.
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  I was doing a lot of live streaming like on Twitch things.
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  That was pretty fun era for me.
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  And um I had just signed in with uh my first agent.
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  I had this whole like West Coast tour set up state and um you know, from coast to coast.
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  So when was the tour supposed to begin?
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  Yeah, I mean in the spring of 2021 through the summer.
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  Oh man, so like right before this all happened.
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  Like this is set to happen like right after this all happened.
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  Yeah, I mean, and prior, you know, it's like right when the it was like the plan started you know, February 2020, you know, so it's like whole plan, all of it gets collapsed.
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  Oh, things are starting to open up, and like I'm writing great music, and then my you know, then it's a me issue, not a world issue because I became disabled.
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  So walk us through that.
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  Because I know sometimes some people feel the effects like right away, right?
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  And some people it's you know, several days or weeks later, you know.
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  Like, what was what was the timeline of you, you know, get getting the injection, and then where did things go downhill?
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  Yeah, I um I got it in the evening, say around dinner time on the 25th, and didn't, you know, whatever, a little sting in the arm, not much, and then woke up the next morning and I was like, I need to go on a walk.
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  Like, am I gonna die or not?
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  You know, and I was like, so I'm friends with like a lot of left and right wing people.
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  Like, I hear the conspiracies, I hear the support, whatever.
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  I'm just like, I'm just gonna go test my body.
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  I went on a walk, felt great, came home.
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  So you wait, you you didn't feel anything.
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  You're just like, well, just to make sure I'm okay, I'm gonna go on a walk.
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  Okay, yeah, okay, gotcha.
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  Okay.
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  And yeah, about an hour after that, I was just in my room, and I had roommates at the time, and they were gone.
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  I was just chilling.
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  I heard them get home, and I stand up to go greet them, and I completely black out.
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  You know, this is you know, I don't know if it was 12 hours after I didn't, you know, kind of do a timestamp thing, but it was, you know, the you know, before lunch, you know, the next morning after the first dose, and I black out, and I don't know how long it was for, you know, maybe 30 seconds a minute, but um I woke up and the the posters on my wall wall were all torn up.
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  I had no idea what happened, but my roommates heard a crash, so they were walking down the stairs as I was like coming to, and um my body was just like violently tremoring, kind of like a uh quasi-seizure type experience.
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  Um, but I was conscious, so I wouldn't call it a seizure.
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  It was just like violent tremoring.
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  You know, my face is ghost white.
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  I'm so thirsty.
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  And we you know, try to calm me down, give me some water.
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  I I no matter how much water I drink, I'm still so thirsty.
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  And I, you know, I have my I can hardly talk or think or anything, but um, I'm like, we should go to the ER.
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  And so then we go to the ER.
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  And yeah, um, as soon as I get there, we pull up, and I just vomit like the most the largest amount of vomit I've ever had in my entire life.
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  Just I open the door and just like bam, um, in extreme extreme amount of vomiting, and they kind of take they take me in, give me some saline, and my body calms down a little bit, and they just kind of send me home saying, like, you know, this could just be an uh an immune response to the vaccine, you know, you should be fine soon.
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  And the very next day, I wake up, I'm like, okay, I feel a little better, but within hours, um, I'm so dizzy, I can't stand.
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  You know, I have to go back to the ER.
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  You know, same thing kind of happens.
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  They give me some saline.
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  The doc, you know, some doctors are dismissive, some are, you know, some are caring, and you know, they just kind of send me home again, and the process starts repeating.
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  So the very next day, this is like the third day.
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  Um, and I'm so dizzy I can't stand or walk.
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  And this time uh I am when I go back to the hospital, I stay.
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  For like a week because I I start quickly losing my ability to walk more than like a few feet.
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  So I'm curious.
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  Obviously, the the first incidents happened less than 24 hours.
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  You go to the hospital, they say it's a reaction to the vaccine.
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  Do they continue to like corroborate that it is the vaccine, or at some point do they start like gaslighting you?
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  I'm just curious.
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  No, they they definitely um, you know, understand it's the vaccine.
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  And um, you know, I have my vaccine card.
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  It's all, it's not like it started a week later, it all started like you know, the following morning.
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  And so the doctors were, especially once I got um not just nurses, the doctor was actually like, yeah, my her daughter was um like unable to function for three or four weeks after her vaccine.
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  So she believed me, and then she told me to my face like, we don't know how to help you.
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  The vaccine is so new.
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  We have no um plan to for this.
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  And um, that third day, I'm like losing consciousness on the verge of dying, um, losing circulating my feet and uh uh my arms and my head.
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  And but yeah, they are definitely um there's there was no gaslighting and you know, there was never really any gaslighting, I would say, um, from any of the doctors I've ever seen.
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  Um, all of them uh essentially confirmed that it was the vaccine.
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  And you know, they sent some mental health professionals in to like the ICU when I was in there, but it was never like um, oh, you know, this is in your head because I was in a wheelchair, you know, it wasn't, and I was perfectly functional before, so wow, okay.
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  Yeah, I mean, I guess that is good news, you know.
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  Um, because do you hear a lot of stories like that?
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  So you're in a wheelchair.
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  I mean, like, it's like how long does it continue to get worse before it gets better?
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  Like, what's what's the journey from there?
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  Um, there's about um I would say like two to six months of like after two months, the it felt like the immune attack stopped.
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  So what they diagnosed me with is transverse myelitis, which I didn't hear that term until about six months, seven months into it, where it's essentially your immune system trying to attack the vaccine along your spinal cord in your brain, your central nervous system.
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  So the attack, I would say stopped, but the um new arising symptoms, it was like every week new symptoms were popping up.
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  Um, you know, for like a year, um, there would be new symptoms popping up and cast a cascading effect of symptoms from tremors, twitching, um, lung pain, chest congestion, um, extreme dizziness for over two years.
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  Umitis started about a month after the vaccine.
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  Um things like that.
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  So in the first month, it kept getting worse and worse.
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  And every night, I wasn't sure if I was gonna die or not.
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  Um maybe for six months to a year, I wasn't sure if I'd make it through the night, but for the first month, I really wasn't sure.
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  Um, because I was losing circulation to my head and my hands, and there was nothing the doctors did to reverse that.
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  The only thing, maybe if you know, it's hard to say, like, oh, was it getting worse?
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  And I say it stopped getting worse after two months generally because I was doing my own research online and I started supplementing with magnesium in large doses, and that stopped um, I wouldn't say it cured, but it kind of like would help the symptoms not kill me.
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  You know, it was like the tingling I was starting to get in my feet from losing circulation so often started to calm down and reverse.
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  So um, but that was through my own research.
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  There is nothing that you know, the medical world did, you know, without me doing that, I think I personally would have died.
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  Yeah, I mean, it's it's unfortunate that they are given no handbook on on what to do, and that yeah, um people who listen to my show regularly know that I had my own health crisis 15 years ago, and doctors had no idea what to do, and kind of like you, I had to figure it out on my own, and um I commend you for that.
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  Um, so I'm curious.
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  Like, um, take me more through like doing your own research.
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  What did you find?
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  What did you experiment with?
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  Like, what what was that process like in the beginning?
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  Yeah, so I I, you know, it's like I call myself, you know, privileged in a way because I had educated myself a lot when I was in sports in high school about just exercise science, sports nutrition, and like biochemistry of the body and supplementing.
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  And so, and then when I was in um college, I studied holistic health.
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  Um, so that was those were the two things that saved my life.
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  There's without any of those things, you know, there was no way I would have known what to do archer research and I would have had no understanding of how to treat my body holistically, you know, which is a huge part of my story that you know after two years, three years, I was able to essentially heal my legs on my own through holistic health.
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  But um, journeying through that was a lot of um trial and error.
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  There was definitely things that made me re-lose my ability to walk from alternative medicine and supplementation.
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  Um, I re-lost my ability to walk probably five, six times in the first year um from trying different things.
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  Um from like a turkey tail mushroom to um there's this thing where they um it's like in sports medicine, it's it's like acoustic sound healing.
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  I'm like forgetting the name of it, but they like you know, shoot acoustic vibration into your body to accelerate wound healing.
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  They do this like in NFL in the MBA.
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  If you have like a sprained ligament or an injury, and so they did that to my legs, and I never re I didn't like recover.
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  It was like it just went back to square one.
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  Um I'll message you the name of whatever it is, I can't remember.
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  Um, but I know there's ultrasound operates on that principle, but it's not like uh audible acoustic waves, it's like you know, acoustic waves that are inaudible to humans.
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  So exactly.
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  Um very similar process.
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  Um so we're anyway, there was you know errors, but then there was things that were positives from um I found um Dr.
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  Terry Walls.
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  She's a person who had multiple sclerosis and kind of reversed the the MS through nutrition, which she calls the whales protocol, WAHL.
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  Very familiar with her, yeah.
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  Of course, yeah.
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  Yep.
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  So once I found her, um, I feel like I was able to lock in my nutrition quite a bit through like mass microgreens, you know, micronutrients, and then getting, you know, good amount of protein and just eating clean.
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  And then I started finding supplements.
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  Well, like magnesium was kind of the first one I found.
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  And um, it took me a few, you know, like a few weeks to find the right magnesium.
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  Okay, yeah, I am very familiar with you know the walls protocol.
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  And um Yeah, so I I I want to put um go back to something you mentioned because I'm very curious about this.
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  You said mass dosing, something equivalent of like mass dosing microgreens.
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  Can you tell us a little bit more about that?
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  Because I know I talked about sprouts at the beginning of the show, and there's microgreens, which are kind of the similar thing, but what were you doing with the microgreens?
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  I want to hear about that.
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  Boom.
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  So in multiple sclerosis, it's kind of the same mechanism as what I have transverse myelitis, where the myelin um sheath of the covering of your nerve is damaged and through an autoimmune attack.
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  And so Terry Wall's theory is that by you know, flooding your body with micronutrients from leafy greens, um, which have you know all the magnesium and potassium and um, you know, vitamin A and K and you know, B vitamins in there um that you can start to repair the myelin sheath.
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  So that was um I thought it was you know very synchronistic or whatever to be able to find Terry's uh our Dr.
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  Wall's the protocol, and so that's kind of like the line of thinking that you can repair um the nervous system or the myelin sheath, which it heals way slower than a muscle or a bone or a ligament, you know, which you know I've had injuries like that prior to my life, like healing a nervous system, actual damage, not just an unregulated nervous system is incredibly long and slow and um frustrating.
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  Yeah, and we can get into the healing of the nervous system because that's something that I geek out on.
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  But yeah, there tends to be two things going on.
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  There's like this damage or like um um placking, um, like multiple sclerosis is multiple sclera, sclera is a white spot, it's like a plaque on the actual neuron, right?
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  On the around the myelin sheath, it's like gunk basically built up around the nerves.
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  Yeah.
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  Um but anyway, like that that part, like neurons heal extremely slowly, right?
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  And so it is a slow process.
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  And so you can have this like physical damage to the neuron, right?
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  But then there's also which we'll get into, and I know you're working on is like this dysautonomia, this this dysregulation that happens where even though the nervous system like physically chemically is fine, it's like a computer that's got like that's had the hard drive fried on it, like it's just not things aren't firing right, and things aren't functioning the way they should, even though physically you can look at an MRI and everything looks like it's fine, which we can get into that, but I'd love to hear your routine around the microgreens, like um you're growing them in your home.
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  How much are you doing?
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  Are you just eating them all?
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  Are you juicing them?
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  Like, what's the what's because that's this is fascinating to me.
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  So tell me more about what you're doing with the microgreens.
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  Hey, Mick, that made that makes sense.
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  Um, so yeah, at this point, you know, like in the first year of my vaccine injury, like I can't even stand while I'm cooking.
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  So there's no growing going on.
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  It's me just hobbling through the grocery store, leaning on the cart to get through it and taking one lap.
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  I I'm only to make able to, you know, after six months, you know, I'm I you know I'm only able to make one lap into the grocery store, and I have to get out of there as fast as possible.
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  So I'm just you know, grabbing as much leafy greens as possible.
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  Um I had a morning smoothie where I'll just you know stuff it with um microgreens um and leafy greens as well, mainly leafy greens, but micronutrients is kind of the main thing.
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  And then every for lunch and dinner, it's just like pretty much a salad, you know, adding as many um servings as leafy greens as possible.
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  And that was kind of the heart of that for sure.
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  Wow.
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  Awesome.
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  Yeah, so basically just flooding your body with fruits and vegetables, essentially.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  Um, yeah, and you know, I was doing fruit smoothies with um the leafy greens and then having like as many vegetables we got right here.
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  Exactly.
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  Um, just finished mine this morning as well.
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  Um, so look a little bit of fruit, a lot of veggies.
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  Um I was I think I was vegan for like the first year um of doing this, and then started introducing like grass-fed meat and whatnot, but um that was for a very specific reason.
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  Um I had you know played with vegetarianism for years, and when I was injured, I don't think I was fully vegetarian, but when through a lot of the um data and science that I've researched about the vaccine, there's you know, it's not just like oh, I had transverse myelitis.
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  It's like my blood was most likely filled with clotting.
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  And so I was trying to thin my blood.
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  So when you're eating meat, your blood gets a little cloudy, you know.
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  I'm just trying to thin my blood as much as possible with the vegan diet, so that was really why I stuck with that.
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  Well, it sounded like it works, man.
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  It worked.
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  I mean, it must have been a pretty wild experience.
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  So I'm curious, like, you know, at this point, you're making you're making progress, right?
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  I'm just kind of curious.
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  Like, are you got a sense of what's going on in your internal world, right?
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  But like what's going on in the external world?
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  Are you still seeing any Western doctors at this point?
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  Um, are you like um I guess friends and family are aware of what's going on?
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  Like uh, what do they think as you're going through all of this?
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  And then, like, are you at this point like publicizing anything about your injury and and what's what's the feedback on that?
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  Yep.
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  Yeah, I'll start with that last one.
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  I didn't say anything publicly for at least six months.
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  Um, I just kind of let my community know like I was like experiencing some health issues, but I never said it was the vaccine until a friend recommended that I did, and I was starting to meet other vaccine-injured people online.
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  Um yeah, I um, you know.
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  Like the doctors, I was going to Western doctors for about a year and a half, and I'm just going from doctor to doctor to neurologist to neurologists to just get any sort of information and support, and all of them, every single one of them is confirming to me that the vaccine did it.
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  And every single one of them is refusing to treat me or offer any sort of help.
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  So refusing or just saying that they can't, or like.
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  Oh, refusing, because I'm offering I'm offering numerous things that like traditional Western medicine does for trans.
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  Well, I thought it was Guillaume Bray syndrome for the first six months, which um traditionally you'll do something like plasma phresis, which is like a removing of the plasma, which takes out the antibodies, uh, which are causing the autoimmune response in Giambaret syndrome and transverse myelitis, or you would do something called IVIG, where you take someone else's um antibodies and plasmas.
• 29:09
  Uh, I don't know the exact process, but you essentially get it from someone else and flood your system with new uh antibodies that aren't, you know, responding to the vaccine.
• 29:21
  And those are like those are the treatments for um the medical western professional world across the board.
• 29:29
  You know, that's something that should be done within the first week or two.
• 29:33
  Um and can be done, you know, a year, two years after.
• 29:39
  But they don't want to do it.
• 29:41
  They don't want to do it.
• 29:42
  Um, you know, they don't want to do anything.
• 29:45
  They um are, you know, they're reluctant, they're refusing, they also don't know, but mainly for my experience, they were refusing.
• 29:57
  Um, I did have one neurologist kind of gas.
• 30:00
  Light me and tell me that I just like need to drink more Gatorade.
• 30:03
  She literally said, like, oh, you should just drink more Gatorade.
• 30:09
  I'm like, literally, my my mom has to, you know, at this point, um, I'm back.
• 30:15
  I got the Pfizer vaccine in Colorado, and then my mom flies out to Colorado and takes me home within like at the end of that first week, and I like can't walk, and I stay with her for like two months, and then I find my own little apartment, so I, you know, um, can just heal with more peace um and closer to nature, and um, you know, she would come and bring me food and whatnot, but I'm living alone.
• 30:45
  And yeah, she's helping taking me, she's taking me to these doctor's appointments and having to wheelchair me to the doctor, you know, and they're like, you know, yeah, like you know, this is from the vaccine, and they do all these numerous tests to kind of figure out that it's not Guillaume Buret syndrome and that it is transverse myelitis.
• 31:06
  So it's like Guillaume Bray syndrome is your peripheral nervous system, which is you know, your extremities, your arms, your legs, and you know, all through your chest and your body and your central nervous system is your spine and your brain, mainly.
• 31:22
  And so that's what transverse myelitis, the damage is done there, and took us, you know, six, seven months to figure that out, and they're you know, just they're completely against offering me any sort of um anything.
• 31:38
  You know, it's really bizarre how they're gonna go through all these great lengths to do all these tests to diagnose something that in the end they're like, oh, we can't do anything for it.
• 31:47
  Well, like, why did you bother?
• 31:49
  You know, but it's exactly it's it's I mean, I think it's because that's just what they have to have to diagnose, it's just what they have to do, right?
• 31:56
  And then of course they can bill for every test that they do, unfortunately.
• 31:59
  But it just seems absurd to me.
• 32:02
  I mean, I the way I practice health care.
• 32:03
  I don't do any tests unless they are gonna change how I treat.
• 32:07
  So I tend to err on doing very little testing because most of the time I know what to do.
• 32:13
  Um, yeah.
• 32:15
  So I'm just curious.
• 32:16
  Like, when you're like hobbling through the grocery store, like leaning on like are people saying anything?
• 32:20
  Like, what's that experience like?
• 32:22
  Um, I was in a town where I didn't know anyone at all, and it was like an older community, kind of in a rural area because I wanted to be close to nature, so they're all kind of hobbling too, you know what I mean?
• 32:36
  It was like, you know, they're old, like it was no one was really asking for sure.
• 32:43
  Um, people are greatly just kind of like ignoring it.
• 32:48
  Okay.
• 32:49
  So what I want to get into next is um just sort of obviously it's been like four and a half years now.
• 32:56
  Um, you know, you've come a long way with your healing.
• 32:59
  I want to get a sense of like what's healed, what is still in process, and then I'd love to hear more about um, you know, just your story of sharing your injury and the the blowback that you get, and and kind of go from there.
• 33:13
  So, like in these four and a half years, obviously you're walking, you're functional, you're doing music.
• 33:18
  I I believe you're putting out more music.
• 33:21
  Um, you know, what's what what's what's healed, what hasn't, where are you at today?
• 33:26
  Yeah, so a great majority of my symptoms are either healed or reduced.
• 33:35
  Um, you know, so like I said, I was you know, essentially abandoned by Western medicine, and I was left to die and defend for myself.
• 33:43
  So I was doing all this nutrition or nutrition research and supplementation research.
• 33:50
  Um, I found some great relief from lion's mane mushroom because that can trigger a neurogenesis in your body.
• 33:58
  So I figured why not give that a try.
• 34:00
  Um at the time my hands were starting to like lock in and close and tighten on each I was like unable to open my hands all the way, and the lion's mane just instantaneously unlocked it.
• 34:12
  And umerous other supplements, like uh, you know, of course the magnesium, but um niacin, um ubiquinol to help my mitochondria, the coQ10.
• 34:28
  Um the biggest thing that was the change for me was um black cumin seed oil and omega-3.
• 34:40
  So I would take black seed oil and omega-3 and cycle it so I would take it because I started to realize like, oh, when I stop black seed oil, my symptoms reduce.
• 34:53
  Um not like, oh, I'm stopping it and my symptoms are coming down from it, but it like they're reducing more than prior to taking it.
• 35:02
  So my tinnitus went down about 80% um from black seed oil and omega-3 combined, and it it was like debilitating tinnitus where you're no, you know, you're like suicidal, it is so loud.
• 35:16
  Um the vaccine injury community.
• 35:18
  We lost like 30, 40 people to suicide in that first year just from symptoms like that alone.
• 35:24
  But um I'm finding relief from black seed oil and mega-three.
• 35:28
  It took down the inflammation in my arms like 90%.
• 35:34
  Um, and it was the first thing to put a dent in the neurological damage of my legs.
• 35:40
  So, you know, at this point, I'm doing physical therapy every other day, these huge long walks and exercises, and I'm extending my walking, but I can only do it every other day because I'm completely disabled the next day, not from my muscles being sore, but from the neurological damage.
• 35:59
  Like I'm you know, all I can do, it's like I was able to like say I could from six months to like a year, I went from 50 yards to you know, five miles, something like that.
• 36:15
  And still the very next day I would be completely disabled.
• 36:19
  So I was able to function one day, walk five miles, and then the next day I was able to only go to the bathroom and still not be able to stand up and cook, you know, for over a year later.
• 36:32
  Um, so that kind of progressed into like about three years into it with the black seed oil and omega-3, I was able to completely heal my legs, I would say.
• 36:42
  Um, you know, sometimes it's like I'll feel like a one percent um of just the tightness and kind of like fibromyalgia type symptoms that I had in my leg from the neurological damage.
• 36:56
  Um, but all of that's gone.
• 36:58
  Um and my lingering symptoms were kind of like a little bit of tinnitus, and um kind of the most like um controversial symptom I have is my longest symptom, which is sensitivity to EMFs and electronics.
• 37:18
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• 37:20
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• 37:21
  Um it's like I hardly talk about this with anyone because it pretty much a lot of people will believe me, and then I tell them this symptom, and they're like, oh, it's all in your head, you're psycho, like you need to be in a psych ward.
• 37:35
  Um about a month into the vaccine injure uh journey, I became sensitive to touching electronics, especially phones, computers, anything wireless um, to where I would touch it and my arm instantaneously, my hand, arm, face would light up with inflammation, soreness, and debilitation and weakness to the point where I couldn't use electronics for really uh a few months, like more than like 30 seconds a minute.
• 38:06
  And you know, like hold my remote control for five seconds to get to what I want to watch and toss it because it would light up my arm with inflammation.
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  So you would you touch the remote control and it would just like light up and then you'd have to like toss it and exactly.
• 41:14
  I could interact with uh electronics very in small amounts in small doses.
• 41:21
  Um and it slowly started to improve to where I could like use my computer with a wired keyboard and a wired mouse.
• 41:31
  That was like it became tolerable.
• 41:33
  My symptoms are still present to this day.
• 41:35
  Every time I'm on the internet, which is like, you know, a lot uh because of music.
• 41:41
  Um I'm having symptoms every time I'm typing, anytime I'm using my phone.
• 41:45
  My phone is much worse than my computer, which scientifically makes sense because the EMF is much stronger.
• 41:52
  The radiation is stronger.
• 41:53
  Um, but it's still my longest lingering symptom.
• 41:57
  How about being around Wi-Fi?
• 41:59
  Is that a problem?
• 42:01
  Um, I had um I had a like a mini stroke or a stroke, um, I think it was like eight months into the journey, and for the first week after that stroke, I could not be in the same room as Wi-Fi.
• 42:23
  And um, or was if you know, someone came to visit me, I would have they would have to put their phone on airplane mode.
• 42:30
  Other I would otherwise I'd feel so dizzy, I would faint.
• 42:34
  Um, and at first I didn't know it was the Wi-Fi.
• 42:38
  I just felt so beyond horrible.
• 42:39
  And then I unplugged my Wi-Fi and it was like instantaneous relief.
• 42:44
  So um that also helped me realize that um, because I was every morning I'd wake up with my body tremoring violently still.
• 42:55
  And what during this post-stroke moment uh for that first few weeks, I realized I wasn't waking up with the tremoring because the Wi-Fi was unplugged.
• 43:07
  So to this day, if I unplug my Wi-Fi at night, and if I don't, I will wake up with inner body vibrations and tremoring.
• 43:17
  But since I unplug it every night, I don't.
• 43:22
  Well, I I believe you.
• 43:24
  This is a topic I've actually delved into quite a bit.
• 43:27
  I actually used to um be an engineer and work for a semiconductor company, and we made like smart meter chips and all this like mixed signal analog digital stuff.
• 43:36
  Um, but it's pretty crazy that people think that like, oh, your your body can pick up on all these different like, you know, um things along the nectar electromagnetic spectrum or visible light, whether it's you know, um, acoustic waves, whether it's you know, like ultrasounds and x-rays, these things affect the body.
• 43:53
  So, like hypothetically, like any frequency could, right?
• 43:57
  And if your nervous system gets like recalibrated, you know, goes through this like trauma, it could it it what can happen is that you you become sensitized to all these things as a trauma response, right?
• 44:09
  The nervous system's like, okay, we got to be vigilant for the next threat, and now it can actually like interpret EMFs from like a Bluetooth or a Wi-Fi as like a threat.
• 44:18
  Um exactly, which is you know, far fetched to a lot of people, but I think like if you have enough of a science background, and it's gotta be like you gotta understand like you know, electromagnetism, but you also have to understand like bioelectric and not a lot of people well versed in that, unfortunately.
• 44:34
  Um but okay.
• 44:36
  Well, first off, I just want to congratulate you on just like all the healing that you've done so far.
• 44:41
  And like I I think this is bringing a lot of hope to a lot of people.
• 44:46
  Um, I just want to ask for um, and obviously I I put my you know shingle out there for helping people that are vaccine injured and have helped quite a few of them, but like for the people that are listening and a lot of the things that you're talking about that you've dealt with resonating and they want to get help and they want to um you know, they want to um get better, like what what resources can you point to them?
• 45:09
  Where should they begin?
• 45:10
  Like, what's what's your advice?
• 45:13
  Yeah, I mean, I feel like the main it's like multifaceted, you know.
• 45:18
  At first, it was really helpful for me to seek out other vaccine injured people and like find some Facebook groups, and then that quickly became like horrible, like um, for my mindset.
• 45:30
  It was just like endless people like dying in these, and you're like, I'm gonna die right now, you know.
• 45:36
  Like I could die any second, and people are committing suicide.
• 45:40
  Um, so for me, I would, you know, find a support system, first of all, you know, you know.
• 45:48
  Um I I found it really cathartic to be um, you know, tell my story online.
• 45:55
  You know, it will come with some people questioning, but then you'll really find who truly loves you and who doesn't, and you'll be surprised that people you didn't think would support you do.
• 46:05
  So find a at least a small, you know, community of people that will support you.
• 46:12
  And then I feel like the main thing, like, you know, bottom of the pyramid foundation for healing would be like your mindset and programming your mind to become resilient and to research people like Joe Dispenza who can help.
• 46:30
  Um you tap into this new kind of emerging science around I don't know exactly how I want to describe it, but like using your mind to heal and um, you know, research.
• 46:46
  I would just say like don't quit researching um nutritional and supplements, you know, you never know what's gonna work for you.
• 46:54
  Research anything you're feeling and try to find some sort of information.
• 47:00
  Um, try to, you know, find things on YouTube, watch documentaries, a lot of things, you know, it's like it was like a Paul Stamens documentary on mushrooms that inspired me, like numerous kinds of mushrooms that inspired me to try the lion's mane, and that literally helped me.
• 47:18
  Um, so you know, keep researching, find your core community, and then you know, really consider your mental health and not only just your mental health, but your mental how do I want to say it, like strength?
• 47:33
  You know, it's like, yeah, take care of your mental health, but also build up your mind like it's your body, you know, start thinking, you know, try to have more positive thoughts and not only have positive positive thoughts, but try to bring positive emotions and feelings in to your body because your biochemistry response to vibration much more than just thoughts and your vibration will help change your thoughts.
• 48:03
  You know, a positive emotion, a high feeling emotion will help um trigger a cascade of positive thoughts down the line.
• 48:10
  So it's like if you can get into start practicing what it would feel like to be healed, start practicing what it would feel like for your ailments to be gone and allow that emotion to feel um, you know, that vibration all across your body, and then on top of that, start doing positive affirmations your mind.
• 48:31
  That alone will start, you know, shifting the circuitry of your nervous system in your body to start getting into the potential that healing is possible.
• 48:42
  And those are the small little micro, you know, shifts you can make that really start to, you know, either, you know, a symptom will start reducing, or I believe you will, you know, open your energy to a solution.
• 48:59
  You know, I found once I started doing this is more woo-woo, but like I don't care at this point, you know.
• 49:05
  This is more of like for the people who are actually suffering.
• 49:08
  It's like I became like more energetically open, and I started to like magnetize solutions towards me, like the lion's mane and the black seed oil, and my friend happened to like convince a health nutritionist to like treat me for free.
• 49:26
  You know, there it was like as I opened energetically, I started to align with um you know, magnetizing more solutions, you know, even though it wasn't just time or shifting my mind that healed me.
• 49:39
  That was a shift in a different direction that really propelled me on a true healing path.
• 49:46
  So I think that's crucial too.
• 49:48
  You know, meditation, um, sound healing on you know, guided meditations on YouTube and sound healing to like calm the nervous system, uh, reprogram the subconscious mind.
• 50:00
  To start healing, like those were some of the biggest things.
• 50:03
  I would meditate two or three times a day.
• 50:05
  Um, those were some of the biggest things, you know, and I would get instantaneous relief through these meditations in inflammation and symptoms.
• 50:14
  So you know, it's funny because we'll talk about you know all the people that you know gave you a bunch of negativity and everything.
• 50:20
  And it's like, well, that's not scientific, you know.
• 50:23
  Um, but it's like this is coming from the people who number one, deny the injury even exists, and then number two, if they do admit it, they go, well, we don't have anything for you, right?
• 50:32
  So it's like, yeah, um, you can talk about how it's not scientific, but it's like none of them have have healed anybody who's dealt with what you're dealing with, right?
• 50:42
  So it's like I'm a fan of doing what works, right?
• 50:45
  Yep.
• 50:46
  And it may be sound woo-woo and crazy, but like if you're painted into a corner where you can barely walk, exactly.
• 50:52
  You're pretty much gonna throw everything at it, right?
• 50:54
  And it's like exactly now you're coming out of it and you're saying, This worked for me.
• 50:57
  I know it sounds crazy, but like um, because they're gonna be the people who I only want to do it if you know a board certified medical doctor says that it's sciencey, you know, and then there are people like I just want to freaking get better, you know.
• 51:11
  Um, and so uh, and those those are the people that do.
• 51:14
  And and I was once in that situation years and years ago where it's like, man, I'm not getting any help from these doctors.
• 51:19
  Like, I gotta look into this alternative stuff, even though I believe it's all hogwash.
• 51:23
  Yeah.
• 51:23
  So let's get into um let's get into just the because we got about six minutes left before we got to wrap it up.
• 51:31
  Um, and and uh and if there's anything you want to plug, like your music or anything, go ahead.
• 51:36
  But I would love to hear more about just like how it's gone putting your message out there and sort of the the blow, the the support and the blowback that you've gotten as a consequence of that.
• 51:47
  Yeah, um, and I appreciate you saying all that other stuff as well.
• 51:50
  Um, so um it's putting out my message has been um both like healing cathartic and like wow, people are supporting me and simultaneously like the most traumatic thing that I've ever gone through in my entire life.
• 52:06
  Um worse than the injury.
• 52:08
  Um or on par or it feels like the same.
• 52:12
  Like um, I don't feel like oh, I just have like, oh, like I, you know, broke my arm or oh, I got cancer.
• 52:18
  You know, it's like being injured by the COVID vaccine comes, it's a full complete package of people aren't gonna believe you, the news isn't covering you.
• 52:29
  Um, you know, all of these things, it's like uh one big Christmas package.
• 52:35
  So um for me, it was just the whole because it's like as I'm hobbling through the grocery store.
• 52:42
  The overhead mic is like come get your next dose.
• 52:46
  Come get your next booster for the Pfizer or for the COVID vaccine.
• 52:50
  It's like it's everywhere, it's on commercials, it's relentless.
• 52:54
  And then you're you know, you're getting um shadow banned online for saying your story.
• 53:01
  I got a warning.
• 53:02
  Uh, the reason I I had to start a new Instagram because I started sharing my story, and they created a label that like if you click follow it this little pop-up would happen and be like, this user shares misinformation about COVID 19.
• 53:17
  So just a heads up.
• 53:18
  They're psycho, you know.
• 53:20
  I've been shadow banned for years now, man.
• 53:23
  My follower count is capped at 42.3k and it's hasn't moved.
• 53:27
  Yeah, I might be able to help you with that.
• 53:28
  That's another story.
• 53:30
  Oh, please do.
• 53:30
  Let's let's talk offline.
• 53:32
  Thank you.
• 53:32
  Okay.
• 53:32
  Um, but um so anyway, uh a big reason I'm speaking out now.
• 53:40
  Um, because I haven't been speaking out for like two years.
• 53:43
  I spoke up a lot for the first two years, and then I started being able to play shows again month by month, a little stronger, a little stronger.
• 53:51
  You know, six months into playing shows, I'm like being flown across the country to play music festivals and stuff again.
• 53:58
  And I've just been a very focused on music and getting back to my normal life, and you know, it's traumatic to talk about this stuff online.
• 54:07
  And in the music industry, I'm you know, being followed by venue owners and agents and festival owners.
• 54:13
  Like, I don't want them to think of me as like this problem vaccine injured kid.
• 54:18
  So the reason I'm speaking out again is because um my tinnitus snowballed into this um diagnosis called hyperacusis, which um my ENT, my ear, nose and throat doctor, um, diagnosed me with where I'm hypersensitive to sounds and my ears are all damaged that I can't even make music or play shows right now.
• 54:41
  So that's the biggest reason why I'm talking out again.
• 54:43
  I just and I have like 10 other symptoms that are just it's so maddening and frustrating that I've healed my body so much, but now I can't even do music again.
• 54:55
  So um now as I'm speaking out again, I'm like um remembering how traumatic it is to speak out against or to just to share my story.
• 55:05
  I'm I'm not saying don't get it, I'm just sharing my story, and it's just like endless people saying, you know, first of all, you're lying, no one was injured, or you're so rare, it doesn't matter.
• 55:17
  And then other people saying, like, you should be killed.
• 55:21
  You like we hope you die, you should shut up and go away.
• 55:25
  So it's incredibly traumatic to just share it.
• 55:29
  Yeah, it's it's uh it's wild that like people's, you know, like if you were harmed by anything else, these people would be so sympathetic.
• 55:39
  But yeah, they'd be you know, throwing a parade downtown for you know the cancer run, and you know, people be throwing benefits with hundreds of people.
• 55:48
  I'm extremely popular, you know, there was no benefits, you know, it's hard to talk about it with my family.
• 55:54
  It's like they just like to pretend it doesn't exist.
• 55:56
  Really?
• 55:57
  Even though you had to like come home and like be disabled for years, and they just like something that goes unspoken because it's triggering and politicized, and they all believe me, but it's like it's not easy for them either, you know.
• 56:14
  I empathize with my family just as much as like I'm like, I wish, you know, we could have thrown a benefit or whatever, or done a little 5k run to raise money, but it is what it is.
• 56:25
  I'm not upset at them.
• 56:27
  So we got about a minute here, let's wrap it up.
• 56:29
  Uh it's spaceship earth music, and that's on like most social media platforms.
• 56:34
  Yeah, spaceship earth music is the tag on uh Instagram and TikTok and Spaceship Earth is on Facebook, and then obviously you can find my music on all the streaming platforms, Spaceship Earth, two words, spaceship, space, earth.
• 56:50
  And yeah, I essentially make electronic music with live electric guitar.
• 56:54
  Um, but and then you can find me if you want to friend request me on Facebook under Ashton Robertson.
• 57:00
  I'm more than happy to accept your friend request as well.
• 57:03
  Or you can follow me, you know, on my Facebook page.
• 57:07
  All right, well, we got a minute left.
• 57:09
  Any just uh last words of uh encouragement or wisdom or anything else you want to share with the audience before we we finish up today.
• 57:16
  Yeah, I mean, first of all, I just want to thank you for bringing me on.
• 57:19
  And if anyone out there is, you know, struggling with their health, you know, I would say just believe in yourself and let your body lead you.
• 57:28
  And your body is really is what is gonna heal you.
• 57:30
  The more you tune into your body, the more you're gonna heal.
• 57:34
  And I just want to thank anyone out there who supports you know, vaccine injured people and the community and spreads our message, and yeah, just thank you all for listening.