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Speaker 1: It's the reform it.
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Speaker 2: We're coming up tonight.
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Speaker 3: We're going to check in live to the astonishing one
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Speaker 3: Nation fire, the fundraiser. It should hit a million dollars
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Speaker 3: while we're on air, if it hasn't hit it already
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Speaker 3: a million dollars in one day, and we will tell
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Speaker 3: you why that should freak out the Prime Minister. But
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Speaker 3: first to something related but much more serious. In a
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Speaker 3: morning I'm going to describe something horrific and show footage
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Speaker 3: that we've censored but will still distress some viewers around
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Speaker 3: the West. There's a revolution against mass immigration here too,
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Speaker 3: as you know Pauling Hansen. But in no country is
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Speaker 3: that revolution so intense as it is in Britain. It's
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Speaker 3: almost a civil war there. And that is what we
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Speaker 3: are seeing in Belfast after an Fardam seeker from Sudan
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Speaker 3: attacked a man with a knife, and the video I
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Speaker 3: saw but won't show him full from that, you see
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Speaker 3: that he seemed to start sawing off his victim's head
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Speaker 3: until locals rushed to the rescue, one armed with a
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Speaker 3: hurling stick of all things. The wounded man was taken
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Speaker 3: to hospital with serious injuries, including to his eyes and throat,
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Speaker 3: now that turns back the now almost inevitable riots with
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Speaker 3: thugs joining in, burning a bus and cars, and even
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Speaker 3: Holmes said to how some of the many illegal immigrants
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Speaker 3: pouring into Britain, as I said, it does sound in fact,
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Speaker 3: it looks like a civil war. There were also protests
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Speaker 3: in English cities like London and Southampton organized by the
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Speaker 3: fire righted scenes with some people crying out something that
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Speaker 3: indeed does sound racist, but will resonate more and more,
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Speaker 3: with people thinking their country has been made dangerous and
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Speaker 3: unrecognizable by mass immigration. Hey good, And of course there's
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Speaker 3: usual noises from the top, you know, thoughts and prayers
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Speaker 3: for the victim, We condemned such attacks, blah blah, no
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Speaker 3: tolerance for this, as British Prime Minister, the Kia starmer.
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Speaker 3: And then you know the appeals not to pick another Margarets,
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Speaker 3: which you should not what we usually hear after every
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Speaker 3: such case. I mean, like the responses here to the
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Speaker 3: Bondo massacre, which seemed to fix little. Actually, I mean
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Speaker 3: we still see the anti Israel hate marchers, We still
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Speaker 3: see the ABC even hiring a host who screamed friend
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Speaker 3: to father. In Australia, we still see young men apparently
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Speaker 3: of a recent immigrant group having a machete brawls at
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Speaker 3: a Melbourne train station. And today we still saw the
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Speaker 3: High Court ruling that hundreds of foreign born criminals that
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Speaker 3: the government detained but it couldn't wouldn't go home and
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Speaker 3: our free to sue us for millions and increasingly, as
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Speaker 3: you from the protests today, a lot of the people
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Speaker 3: in Britain at least will not be placated by the
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Speaker 3: old platitudes. Now let's look at this Sudanese game. Might
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Speaker 3: get a sort of hint. Why he arrived in Paris
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Speaker 3: not good enough for him, so he went to Dublin.
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Speaker 2: That wasn't good enough for him, and then he.
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Speaker 3: Went to Belfast, which is British territory where illegal immigrants
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Speaker 3: can count on free housing and lots of welfare, and
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Speaker 3: there he claimed asylum and he got it, now embarrassingly
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Speaker 3: for the anti immigration reform pat of Nigel Farage. The
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Speaker 3: Immigration Minister back then was Robert Jenrick and the Home
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Speaker 3: Secretary was Suella Brevaman, and both were Conservative ministers who
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Speaker 3: have since defected to Farage's party, which of course shows
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Speaker 3: you that the political class really is up to his
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Speaker 3: neck in this social disaster both sides, just like they
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Speaker 3: are here, Labour and the Liberals both, plus the media
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Speaker 3: that cheered them on with that, you know, saying pose
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Speaker 3: that deadly mix of mass immigration, multiculturalism, lavish welfare and
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Speaker 3: the new tribalism of identity politics. So that even today,
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Speaker 3: by the way of all days, we had an ABC
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Speaker 3: host in Melbourne still insisting that to close the door
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Speaker 3: just a bit to mass immigration was racist. This call
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Speaker 3: by the Opposition leader. No, this was unknown probably racist.
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Speaker 4: Not only have the numbers been too high when it
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Speaker 4: comes to migration, the standards have been too low.
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Speaker 3: Now listen to that ABC clown this morning, until even
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Speaker 3: one ABC listener couldn't take it anymore.
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Speaker 5: The big question now seems to be are too many
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Speaker 5: people coming to Australia? So is it racist? If you're
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Speaker 5: asking that question, is that hard truths said respectfully or
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Speaker 5: is that poorly veiled prejudice racism? Is it racist to
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Speaker 5: say we've got too many migrants, too many people coming
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Speaker 5: to Australia.
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Speaker 6: I think you're being inflammatory with your question, and my
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Speaker 6: question to you is how could you perceive that in
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Speaker 6: any way, shape or form as potentially being racist.
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Speaker 5: Isn't blaming the newest arrival the oldest form of prejudice.
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Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, now there's going to be the usual
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Speaker 3: arguments of the Sudanese man in Belfast probably know how
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Speaker 3: to mental illness, that there's no real link between immigration
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Speaker 3: and crime.
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Speaker 2: Only racists would.
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Speaker 3: Say that, except of course the British public. They've seen
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Speaker 3: this horror show before. Thirty years ago, for instance, an
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Speaker 3: off duty British Army soldier Lee Rigby, he was beheaded
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Speaker 3: on the streets of Woolwich, Woolwich outside the Royal Artillery barracks.
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Speaker 2: But tuism is terrorists, please.
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Speaker 3: Say the Sudanese go by the way yesterday he was
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Speaker 3: not a terrorist. And there's been much more such so
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Speaker 3: many more appalling scenes just like that. I mean Islam's
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Speaker 3: terror attacks on London trains and buses as recently as
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Speaker 3: March four, criminals hard by Iran burned ambulances of a
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Speaker 3: Jewish charity. And then of course there's a many ethnic
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Speaker 3: rape gains in Britain like this one jailed only last week.
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Speaker 3: And adding to the flames over there, of course, is
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Speaker 3: the rage still over the death of Henry Noak, a
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Speaker 3: teenager stabbed by a British Sikh son of an Indian immigrant,
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Speaker 3: who falsely accused Henry of racism and crime is so
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Speaker 3: terrible that police on the scene the rest of the
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Speaker 3: dying Henry and reminded this footage is also distressing. Handcuffed
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Speaker 3: that dying Henry there was lying at their feet, drowning
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Speaker 3: in his own blood, saying he couldn't Breathe handcuffed him
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Speaker 3: rather than the rest of the man who stabbed him
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Speaker 3: with a ceremonial seek sword. And there is a link
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Speaker 3: to immigration and crime, the immigration from some countries and cultures.
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Speaker 2: That is, it's a link that.
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Speaker 3: Helps to explain why five Australians have been killed here
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Speaker 3: and others stabbed in five terrors attacks by Muslim refugees.
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Speaker 3: It's a link that explains why we have notorious Middle
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Speaker 3: Eastern crime gangs, but none like say from.
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Speaker 2: America or British.
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Speaker 3: Shooting up our streets or fire bombing dozens and dozens
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Speaker 3: of shops now. And this is a link that Denmark
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Speaker 3: at least investigates and publishes statistics on showing that immigrants
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Speaker 3: from Muslim countries highlighted in red on this graph, countries
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Speaker 3: such as Qwaight to Nizzy Albya, Somali and Jordan at
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Speaker 3: the top are most likely pro rauted to be convicted
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Speaker 3: of violent crime, and far more so than ethnic Danes
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Speaker 3: or immigrants from other Western nations, or for that matter,
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Speaker 3: from China. Now it's true Muslim immigrants, most of them
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Speaker 3: are good citizens, but the rate of convictions is higher
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Speaker 3: in their community, and certainly in Denmark. For reasons, I
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Speaker 3: think that most people that understand but not dare say
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Speaker 3: import people from very different cultures, especially from war zone saying.
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Speaker 3: You are more likely to import people if feel marginalized here,
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Speaker 3: and more likely to react violently, if only to assert themselves.
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Speaker 3: If you import people unfamiliar with Western ways, even at
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Speaker 3: odds with them, you are more likely to get people
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Speaker 3: who reject them and sometimes angrily. You import men from
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Speaker 3: a culture where women are inferiors should never show their skin,
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Speaker 3: you are more likely to get some men who treat
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Speaker 3: our less modestly dressed women.
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Speaker 2: As an invitation.
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Speaker 3: And you import people from a cultural faith whose extreme
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Speaker 3: elements preach g hard, you are certainly more likely to
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Speaker 3: get that g hard and celebrations in our cities. When
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Speaker 3: Israeli Jews get massacred.
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Speaker 7: United it's a day of courage.
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Speaker 3: All of which is to say culture counts. It has
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Speaker 3: always counted. It always shapes our behavior. And while we
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Speaker 3: have an immigration intake that pretends it doesn't, that pretends
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Speaker 3: we all share.
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Speaker 2: The same values under the skin.
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Speaker 3: We are made stronger by diversity and never weaker. While
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Speaker 3: we still have all that we will see again and
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Speaker 3: again the tragedies that make politicians offer their thoughts and
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Speaker 3: prayers while they do nothing to save us from more.
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Speaker 3: Joining me from London is Brendan O'Neill, author and political
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Speaker 3: editor are Spiked online, where is written brilliantly on immigration
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Speaker 3: and culture. In fact, his books include After the Program,
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Speaker 3: seven October, Israel and The Crisis of Civilization, which I
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Speaker 3: fear is exactly what we say. Brendan O'Neil look lovely
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Speaker 3: to speak to you again. What should this crime in
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Speaker 3: Bilfast tell us? If there is a warning in.
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Speaker 2: It, what is it?
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Speaker 7: Well?
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Speaker 8: The first thing is it was just so horrific. I mean,
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Speaker 8: I won't horrify your viewers Andrew with the details, but
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Speaker 8: anyone can go online and read what the police have said,
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Speaker 8: the descriptions they've given of the injuries suffered by this man. Barbaric.
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Speaker 8: I would call it a medieval form of barbarism that
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Speaker 8: we saw on the streets of Belfast, really really sickening.
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Speaker 8: If there's a lesson from this atrocity, I think it
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Speaker 8: is that we've had this social experiment of mass immigration
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Speaker 8: for far too long, and the way in which the
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Speaker 8: elites keep bringing in unvetted men, men from countries that
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Speaker 8: are very different to our own, which have different value systems,
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Speaker 8: different cultures, different attitudes to women, different attitudes to life.
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Speaker 8: This is a fact, as you've just been saying, the
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Speaker 8: more that we do that, the more chaos they are
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Speaker 8: going to sew, the more instability they are going to provoke,
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Speaker 8: and the more crime they're going to bring. That is
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Speaker 8: what the stats now prove, and ordinary people are crying
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Speaker 8: out for change.
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Speaker 2: It was Britain.
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Speaker 3: I mean right there, you were saying things that I
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Speaker 3: think we've probably passed the tipping point now, but before
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Speaker 3: would have said you're being racist. You're saying they won't
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Speaker 3: fit in, you're saying they're culture is worse than now.
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Speaker 3: As you're saying all these things, were implying. You didn't
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Speaker 3: say it, but you're implying we have I think for
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Speaker 3: too long muzzled ourselves with this fear of seeming racist
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Speaker 3: and stopped ourselves from being able to stop exactly what
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Speaker 3: we're seeing now, exactly right.
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Speaker 8: You know, I grew up in a multi racial community
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Speaker 8: here in London where I'm speaking to you from. My
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Speaker 8: parents are immigrants from Ireland. We grew up with Greeks, Italians, Indians, Pakistanis,
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Speaker 8: people generally mucked in. There were far fewer immigrants back then,
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Speaker 8: and I would include my parents in that as well.
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Speaker 8: And people came to Britain to work and came to
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Speaker 8: this country in order to work, in order to start
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Speaker 8: a family, in order to try their best to integrate.
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Speaker 8: That's completely changed now. We have vastly higher numbers of
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Speaker 8: immigrants coming, many of them coming illegally, some of them
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Speaker 8: coming legally but not working and claiming benefits and claiming
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Speaker 8: social housing. The whole nature of immigration has changed beyond
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Speaker 8: recognition over the past five to ten years. And that's
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Speaker 8: the thing that's annoying people. It's not that they're racist,
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Speaker 8: it's not that they think all non whites should be
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Speaker 8: kicked out of Britain. Only a tiny handful of idiots
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Speaker 8: think that. What they're concerned about is the arrival of
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Speaker 8: unprecedented numbers of immigrants, many from regressive countries which we
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Speaker 8: are advised not to visit. The government expressly advises us
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Speaker 8: not to visit Afghanistan, and then it brings eight hundred
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Speaker 8: men from Afghanistan and puts them in the hotel at
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Speaker 8: the end of your street. This is what people are
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Speaker 8: really angry about right now.
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Speaker 3: Well, numbers absolutely matter, as doeslogy. Where my parents came,
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Speaker 3: for instance, it was very hard to form an ethnic ghetto,
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Speaker 3: a community, a colony in Australia because there weren't enough
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Speaker 3: of them. What's more, they couldn't maintain their culture. You
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Speaker 3: couldn't have satellite dishes beaming in news programs from over there.
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Speaker 2: You didn't have.
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Speaker 3: Multicultural services that would enable you to avoid having to
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Speaker 3: speak English, learn English. You had lots of your own people,
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Speaker 3: own shops. You could afford to go home and back
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Speaker 3: to your old country and find a bride, keep contact.
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Speaker 3: You could call every day free on the internet. My
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Speaker 3: parents are to say for ages to afford a three
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Speaker 3: minute phone call every several months.
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Speaker 2: It's so different.
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Speaker 3: I wonder whether this fear that England has become a
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Speaker 3: hotel rather than a home a land of many colonies
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Speaker 3: rather than one people. I think that's changing politics over.
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Speaker 8: There, massively changing politics. People want change, they want answers
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Speaker 8: to these problems. You know, ordinary Brits are sick of
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Speaker 8: paying the price of bourgeois virtue because that's what we're seeing.
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Speaker 8: What we're seeing is, you know, thousands of unvetted men
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Speaker 8: come to this country every month. I mean thousands and thousands.
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Speaker 8: Many of them have ended up very close to where
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Speaker 8: I live in other parts of London. They don't integrate
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Speaker 8: very well, they often don't speak English. They have a
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Speaker 8: different attitude towards women, towards homosexuality, towards Jewish people.
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Speaker 2: These are facts.
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Speaker 8: It's not racist to state these facts, and they are
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Speaker 8: causing problems. And I think what lots of working class
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Speaker 8: people are now thinking here in the UK is that
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Speaker 8: they are expected to absorb all the risks of these
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Speaker 8: unvetted men coming to this country, while the activist class
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Speaker 8: absorbs all the virtue. You know, they get to say
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Speaker 8: refugees welcome and then go back to their leafy suburbs
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Speaker 8: where they're pretty safe, while it's ordinary people who have
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Speaker 8: to pay the price of their communities becoming ever more divided,
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Speaker 8: ever more dangerous, ching a tipping point and anger is brewing,
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Speaker 8: and I really hope it expresses itself in a peaceful
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Speaker 8: democratic way because things it feels like things are spinning
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Speaker 8: out of control here.
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Speaker 3: Well, it seems like you're on the edge of a volcano,
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Speaker 3: to be honest. But Brendan is so interesting. You're seeing,
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Speaker 3: of course, the explosive rise of the anti immigrant reform
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Speaker 3: Party of Nigel Faraj. You're seeing labor, you know, absolutely
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Speaker 3: being slaughtered the government.
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Speaker 2: But the problem is I do not see labor.
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Speaker 3: And the fellow travelers in you know, the cultural machinery
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Speaker 3: of Britain. I do not see them able to change
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Speaker 3: their mind and say, look, British ways are great. British
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Speaker 3: culture must be protected. Every bit of culture's overseas should
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Speaker 3: be protected, and we have to have an eye for
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Speaker 3: how other cultures can merge, if they really can merge
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Speaker 3: with our and with ours and integrate. I don't see
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Speaker 3: them able to do that. After all this, you know,
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Speaker 3: anti racism, multicultural politicking and indoctrination ideology.
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Speaker 2: I can't see them shutting their.
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Speaker 8: No, they can't let go of their luxury beliefs.
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Speaker 2: They are too wedded to them.
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Speaker 8: They get too much prestige from these beliefs in their
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Speaker 8: own circles, you know. But I think what lots of
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Speaker 8: other people are now realizing is just how lethal luxury
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Speaker 8: beliefs can be. Because we know that thanks to the
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Speaker 8: luxury belief of transgenderism, for example, rapists were put.
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Speaker 2: In women's prisons.
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Speaker 8: We know that courtesy of the luxury belief of the
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Speaker 8: kind of neo anti racism, the kind of two tier policing.
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Speaker 8: We know that Henry Novak suffered a terrible death as
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Speaker 8: a consequence of that. And we now see that the
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Speaker 8: impact that mass immigration is having in this kind of
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Speaker 8: open border's virtue signaling is giving rise to enormous amounts
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Speaker 8: of crime, including sexual assaults and rapes.
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Speaker 2: And the men who come.
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Speaker 8: To this country illegally are massively over represented in the
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Speaker 8: statistics for rape. And the thing that's different, Andrew, You're
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Speaker 8: absolutely right. People are now more open talking about this.
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Speaker 8: They're saying, listen, we're not racist. We just want our
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Speaker 8: country to come back to an even keel, to return
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Speaker 8: to common sense, to police our borders, to behave like
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Speaker 8: a proper sovereign territory. That's what people are crying out
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Speaker 8: for and they are sick and tired of these luxury
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Speaker 8: beliefs that are causing direct harm to ordinary communities.
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Speaker 3: Brintan Erneil, I mean when you said the return of compassats,
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Speaker 3: I think we're actually talking about a need for a
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Speaker 3: far greater cultural change. It's basically rationalism rather than romance,
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Speaker 3: facts again, rather than fantasy, the whole myth making spinning
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Speaker 3: ideology feel good stuff. I think it's now so yesterday. Practicality,
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Speaker 3: facts matter, Facts are hard facts. I think we'll have
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Speaker 3: to come back in fashion. Brendan and Neil, thank you
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Speaker 3: so much, indeed for your time. After the break unbelievable
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Speaker 3: news from the One Nation fire, the Lara website fundraiser,
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you that after.
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Speaker 2: This, oh this One Nation fundraiseer, I.
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Speaker 3: Said yesterday that I recommend the astrands are now finding
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Speaker 3: it fun to back one Nation. Yeah, it's the fun
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Speaker 3: of seeing an underdog making the big boys jump for once.
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Speaker 3: And I am betting that thousands of Australians had fun today,
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Speaker 3: a lot of fun watching One Nation gazump and embarrassed labor.
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Speaker 3: And maybe yesterday asked the strands that are twenty seven
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Speaker 3: dollars to stop One Nation fund the right fund the fight.
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Speaker 2: Within hours, of course, One Nation put out.
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Speaker 3: A mirror appeal, except theirs asked for twenty nine dollars
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Speaker 3: to stop Labor and fire the liar.
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Speaker 2: With a list of lies.
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Speaker 3: It claims, Albens is told, like the two hundred and
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Speaker 3: seventy five dollar cut in power bills you promise, like
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Speaker 3: the capital gains tacks lie, and like the la he
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Speaker 3: told after he fell off a stage during the election
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Speaker 3: campaign last year, denying what we've all seen on TV.
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Speaker 9: Minister, we saw that you fell from the stage and
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Speaker 9: says not this afternoon, are you okay?
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Speaker 4: No, I stepped back one step.
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Speaker 10: I didn't fall off the stage.
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Speaker 4: It looked like it looks like you went down. I'm
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Speaker 4: glad to hear you're okay, both, Thank you very much.
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Speaker 6: Just one leg went down, but I was I was
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Speaker 6: sweet far the lire.
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Speaker 3: Well, after just one day of this appeal, which was
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Speaker 3: originally set to raise one million dollars, we are showing
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Speaker 3: you live what it has raised so far with a
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Speaker 3: new goal one point five million bingo, well over a million,
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Speaker 3: already astonishing in one day. Now what Labor has raised
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Speaker 3: so far with its appeal which started earlier. It won't tell,
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Speaker 3: but I am praying that reporters tomorrow ask every labor minister,
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Speaker 3: starting with the Preme Minister himself. By the way, Prime Minister,
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Speaker 3: how much is your appeal raised? Joining me is the
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Speaker 3: political panel. Cameron Milner, former chief of Staff, the label
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Speaker 3: they will shorten now director of g XO Strategies of
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Speaker 3: Michael cost the former New South Wales Labor treasurer. Had
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Speaker 3: a great one, Michael. This fundraising duel, what does it
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Speaker 3: tell you?
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Speaker 1: Tells me that one nation's got a great ground game
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Speaker 1: and you know, to pity the coalition didn't have the
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Speaker 1: same ground game in the last election. Maybe we've had
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Speaker 1: a different result. Look, one nation has to get as
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Speaker 1: much money as it can off the grassroots because you know,
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Speaker 1: Labor is gerry manned the donation system across the board
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Speaker 1: to exclude the unions from donation caps and clearly that's
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Speaker 1: where they rely on their funding. They'll have plenty of
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Speaker 1: funds android the next election from the unions and you know,
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Speaker 1: as the Ellen government showed only just recently, they're here
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Speaker 1: to do anything to keep that.
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Speaker 2: But Cameron, you're an old campaigner.
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Speaker 3: How many campaigns you've done. Oh sorry, my sound dropped out.
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Speaker 3: I thought you'd stop make I'm sorry about that. But Cameron, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: just go to Cameron. Cameron, you've been on so many campaigns.
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Speaker 3: Have you ever seen anything like this?
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Speaker 11: No, not in one day, Andrew, not a million dollars
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Speaker 11: out of campaign cycle. This is an absolute own goal
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Speaker 11: from Albow. I mean, Albo couldn't have done it better
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Speaker 11: for one nation with his lives, giving them a million
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Speaker 11: dollars to campaign against labor in marginal seats with these
21:27
Speaker 11: dueling fundraiser and reminded of crocodile dundee, which is you
21:29
Speaker 11: know that's not a fundraiser.
21:31
Speaker 2: This is a fundraiser. I mean, this is a million
21:33
Speaker 2: dollars in about ten hours.
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Speaker 11: It's phenomenal, utterly phenomenal andry and just goes to show
21:39
Speaker 11: that Albo is going to have to eat an awful
21:40
Speaker 11: lot of plant based meat at sleazy boardroom dinners to
21:43
Speaker 11: make up this gap in the fundraising for labor between
21:47
Speaker 11: now and this thing.
21:48
Speaker 2: But does it show just the label of anger and.
21:51
Speaker 11: Disappointment out there in the electric that Paul en Hansen
21:53
Speaker 11: can go out there with a simple appeal to Australias
21:55
Speaker 11: to say, please fund me to fire the liar, and
21:58
Speaker 11: she gets a million dollars in tens and it's now
22:01
Speaker 11: one point five. Probably might bind tonight. It's phenomenal and.
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Speaker 3: It just shows how much Albow's lies have hurt the
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Speaker 3: body politic but also is smashing labor. Michael, let me
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Speaker 3: ask you a question this time without interrupting your hope
22:14
Speaker 3: that the connection keeps going.
22:16
Speaker 2: But going back to your point about.
22:18
Speaker 3: The unions, when the polls are so clear, Michael, that
22:23
Speaker 3: Paul enhances one nation is now the part of the
22:25
Speaker 3: working class you have a look at, you know, by
22:27
Speaker 3: any measure poverty, wealth, or degrees or where you live.
22:33
Speaker 3: It is the part of the working class, the true
22:35
Speaker 3: part of the working class.
22:36
Speaker 2: For labor.
22:37
Speaker 3: For unions to our fund labor without asking having a vote,
22:42
Speaker 3: you know, asking their members is this the working class party?
22:45
Speaker 3: One fund or is it one nation? They can't do that?
22:47
Speaker 3: Can then they can't just simply hand over the money
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Speaker 3: to labor without asking permission to do that instead of
22:53
Speaker 3: fund one nation.
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Speaker 12: Well are you asking morally or legally? Because morally they shouldn't.
23:00
Speaker 12: I remember these unions have been funding the Greens. Andrew
23:03
Speaker 12: that have been directly in conflict with many of their jobs.
23:07
Speaker 12: You know, that's how immoral some of these union funding
23:10
Speaker 12: arrangements have been. But clearly legally they can because they've
23:13
Speaker 12: gerrymannered the elector of the funding laws.
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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, Allan just did it recently.
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Speaker 1: New South Wales has had those laws in place, put
23:20
Speaker 1: in the place by a liberal government by the way,
23:23
Speaker 1: and means the unions can donate as much as they
23:25
Speaker 1: like and they've got bottomless pit pockets and they're also
23:28
Speaker 1: using super funds as we're finding out through the Royal
23:31
Speaker 1: Commissions in various places. Yes, it's immoral, but they're going
23:34
Speaker 1: to keep doing it.
23:37
Speaker 2: I reckon.
23:38
Speaker 3: Members of blue collar unions especially should be kicking up
23:42
Speaker 3: a stink and demanding their say before there's a donation
23:47
Speaker 3: by the union to labor without having a ballot of
23:50
Speaker 3: members first. Now, Cameron, I just wonder how ALBINIZI can
23:58
Speaker 3: now survive because this campaign, and it's not just highly successful,
24:02
Speaker 3: amazingly successful in raising a million dollars in less than
24:05
Speaker 3: a day for one nation, it's also a branding exercise.
24:09
Speaker 3: The brand being Albanese is a liar and that's getting
24:13
Speaker 3: in the public mind. If you ask me, you know
24:15
Speaker 3: he lied. He lied about the capital games, he led
24:17
Speaker 3: about all sorts of things. People know that it's going
24:19
Speaker 3: to be constant.
24:20
Speaker 2: From now on.
24:20
Speaker 3: How can Albanize campaign in an election when an election
24:26
Speaker 3: is all about what promises are you making?
24:28
Speaker 2: And no one will believe him? Well that's the big
24:33
Speaker 2: problem for Labour now, isn't it.
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Speaker 11: I mean, you know, they've actually got a proven liar
24:35
Speaker 11: out the front of their of their show right now.
24:37
Speaker 11: But the Labour Party is controlled by the Albanista see
24:40
Speaker 11: your point, Michael, It's controlled by public sector unions. I mean,
24:43
Speaker 11: they don't represent the blue collar workforcing a longer andr.
24:45
Speaker 11: They're a public sector party, the Labor party these days.
24:48
Speaker 11: And so in that instance, they're going to continue to
24:51
Speaker 11: push Albow out there as a guy who can tell
24:54
Speaker 11: a few lies. But it'll all be okay in two
24:55
Speaker 11: and the is time's that's what the Albanists believe, And
24:58
Speaker 11: they look at the polling ander and say, oh, we
25:00
Speaker 11: can still win government, so we must.
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Speaker 2: It must be okay to lie. That's their moral justification.
25:04
Speaker 3: So no, I mean, I think we're in for a
25:06
Speaker 3: very torrid twenty four months with a lyning prime minister,
25:09
Speaker 3: fronting labor show and us having to wait twenty four
25:12
Speaker 3: months as voters for you know, Australians to get their say. Well,
25:17
Speaker 3: what do you think markl can can you know how
25:20
Speaker 3: bit easy keep going as a leader?
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Speaker 2: When his word is trash.
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Speaker 1: Andrew, you're asking the wrong person. His words always been trash.
25:29
Speaker 1: In my view, I've had to deal with him, you know,
25:31
Speaker 1: when he was a factional operator. So the guy don't
25:34
Speaker 1: see anything different. The difference is that he's operating on
25:38
Speaker 1: the national scale, and unfortunately it has consequences. Remember the
25:42
Speaker 1: two seventy five dollars that was before the last election. Andrew,
25:45
Speaker 1: he got away with that one. The Stage three tax cuts,
25:48
Speaker 1: he got away with that. Their track record is lying
25:51
Speaker 1: and then coming up with the big lie, the many scare,
25:54
Speaker 1: or the uranium scare or whatever other scare. They'll develop
25:58
Speaker 1: the thing with one nation. But is they've got a
26:00
Speaker 1: better ground game. I think they've got a better ground
26:03
Speaker 1: game the Labor has and that's the first time I've
26:05
Speaker 1: seen that on the center right, And that's the really
26:08
Speaker 1: intriguing part of what's going on at the moment.
26:13
Speaker 3: Look, I just think you know, James Ashby probably has
26:16
Speaker 3: to be the cleverest political operator I have seen, full stop.
26:21
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just amazing one nation depends so much
26:25
Speaker 3: on that bloke. I think it's just the genius Cameron. Meanwhile,
26:30
Speaker 3: the Abanize government had two state governments today through another
26:33
Speaker 3: one hundred and five million dollars to keep open too
26:36
Speaker 3: Nistar smelters in Tasmanian, New and South Australia. That's on
26:40
Speaker 3: top of the one hundred and thirty five million they
26:43
Speaker 3: gave to keep open those very same smelters last year
26:46
Speaker 3: because they're struggling with high power prices, among other things. Meanwhile,
26:50
Speaker 3: you've got energy Mister Chris bowen Off in Germany, as
26:53
Speaker 3: a UN's President of Climate Negotiations, is on the right
26:57
Speaker 3: here pushing for another cost global warming targets. I have
27:01
Speaker 3: thirty five percent of all energy demand metbe electricity around them,
27:05
Speaker 3: fossil fuels. Betweenty thirty five came in to say yet
27:09
Speaker 3: another target the China and Russia will ignore while we
27:14
Speaker 3: and our companies here heavy industry go broke, training.
27:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, and will go broke being woke, won't we?
27:21
Speaker 11: While the Russians and Chinese get to pollute the world
27:24
Speaker 11: with any amount of carbon emissions.
27:25
Speaker 2: That's the problem, isn't it. And even with this cop
27:27
Speaker 2: that they're not.
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Speaker 11: Going to sign up to, Russia's not going to probably
27:30
Speaker 11: even be there, and China will walk away as a
27:32
Speaker 11: third third world country supposedly still. So no, it's a
27:35
Speaker 11: fast in terms of these global quotas. But to the
27:38
Speaker 11: workforces in those smelters in Tasmania, I think we've got
27:41
Speaker 11: to give them hand up like this. It's not their
27:44
Speaker 11: fault that their jobs are at risk.
27:45
Speaker 3: And I think government money spent on saving some pretty
27:48
Speaker 3: critical industries and.
27:50
Speaker 2: Not justceeding all that to China.
27:51
Speaker 11: I mean, if we don't make it here, China will
27:53
Speaker 11: make it, and that's the problem. So I think there's
27:55
Speaker 11: a sovereign capability that we need to keep the workforce
27:58
Speaker 11: here and it can't be their fault that energy policies
28:01
Speaker 11: and stuff like that have made their jobs really vulnerable. Michael,
28:06
Speaker 11: I get Cameron's point, but the thing is those tax
28:09
Speaker 11: handouts are to keep open at those companies at the
28:12
Speaker 11: expense of all the other companies that have to pay
28:14
Speaker 11: those extra taxes to keep them in business.
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Speaker 1: And you're absolutely right, and you can use the same
28:20
Speaker 1: argument bobay I've got a lot of sympathy for the workforce.
28:23
Speaker 1: What's killing them is the government's energy policy. The zero
28:27
Speaker 1: that's what's killing all of these industries. And it's not
28:30
Speaker 1: just smelters, it's coal mines and everything else in manufacturing
28:34
Speaker 1: that requires cheap energy. Look, the worst part about this
28:38
Speaker 1: bond thing is that you know, he's going to be
28:41
Speaker 1: president and preside over a group of countries that use
28:44
Speaker 1: nuclear power primarily to get their net zero.
28:49
Speaker 7: And he's opposed to it.
28:51
Speaker 10: Guy is a complete and hypocrit And let me say,
28:55
Speaker 10: of those countries that are you know, the main countries
28:58
Speaker 10: that have nuclear power plan and so I think it's
29:00
Speaker 10: about four hundred and forty of these.
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Speaker 7: Things around the world.
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Speaker 1: Thirty of those countries and the outlies the USA under
29:07
Speaker 1: Trump I have already signed up to net zero.
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Speaker 7: So it's an absolute nonsense. You need nuclear power to
29:12
Speaker 7: do it. And there you go, Andrew.
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Speaker 10: At the moment, eighty percent of our energy is global
29:18
Speaker 10: energy is fossil fuels in one form or another.
29:20
Speaker 7: It's never going to happen. It'll be like the domestic target.
29:24
Speaker 3: You know, it's never going to happen. It's never going
29:27
Speaker 3: to happen. But we're going to die train. That's the problem.
29:30
Speaker 3: Michael Costa, Cameron Milner, thank you very much to you
29:32
Speaker 3: both really appreciate. After the break, Iran embarrasses Donald Trump
29:37
Speaker 3: as the missiles fly again in the Gulf. Iran has
29:46
Speaker 3: made Donald Trump look foolish and missiles are now flying again.
29:50
Speaker 3: Iran yesterday shut down a US Apache helicopter over the
29:53
Speaker 3: straight straight overrom Mouz. The two m men were rescued
29:56
Speaker 3: after two hours in the water by a none man
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Speaker 3: naval Corsaedro, and Trump said the United States must of
30:03
Speaker 3: necessity respond to this attack, and responded did, hitting nearly
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Speaker 3: twenty targets inside Iran and what are called acts of
30:10
Speaker 3: self defense. Most of those targets were Iranian ground control
30:13
Speaker 3: stations and their defenses in the south, although explosions were
30:17
Speaker 3: reported in Tehran.
30:20
Speaker 2: Iran though then fired ballistic missiles and.
30:22
Speaker 3: Drones at US bases in Bahrain and Kwait and Jordan,
30:25
Speaker 3: and claims four targets were hit, including an aircraft carry Well,
30:29
Speaker 3: that's not confirmed US in facts, as most missiles and
30:31
Speaker 3: drones were intercepted, but who knows. So not a full
30:35
Speaker 3: resumption of war yet, but also it doesn't look much
30:37
Speaker 3: like the peace that Trump is four weeks said is
30:39
Speaker 3: about to sign with Iran. And one thing exposed here
30:44
Speaker 3: are Trump's double standards. When Iran hits a US chopper,
30:49
Speaker 3: Trump says he has to hit back.
30:51
Speaker 2: But when Iran.
30:53
Speaker 3: Fired missiles at Israel and Sunday, Trump ordered Israeli prim
30:56
Speaker 3: as a Benuena yardist stop firing back could make his
31:00
Speaker 3: peace deal. And now Netna, Who's chief political arrival, former
31:05
Speaker 3: Army Chief of Staff Guardian Eisenkopt is mocking him as
31:09
Speaker 3: weak for giving in wait, if you.
31:12
Speaker 5: Said the Prime Minister Nannahu about a Ran and how
31:15
Speaker 5: long to hold off?
31:16
Speaker 2: Fine, he'll do whatever I want him to do. Fine,
31:18
Speaker 2: he'll do whatever I want him to do. Fine, he'll
31:21
Speaker 2: do whatever I wanted to do.
31:22
Speaker 3: Fine, he'll do whatever.
31:23
Speaker 2: I wanted to do.
31:25
Speaker 3: Joining me is scune US defence analyst Peter Jennings, who's
31:28
Speaker 3: had senior roles in our defense department and headed this
31:31
Speaker 3: strange strategic policy institute. Peter, great to see you again.
31:36
Speaker 3: These missiles. This is not peace and it's not war.
31:39
Speaker 2: What is it.
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Speaker 13: It's a stalemate where Iran is playing a smarter ground game.
31:47
Speaker 2: Than Donald Trump in the United States.
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Speaker 13: I think what Iran is doing every time it engages
31:53
Speaker 13: in these types of military actions, is it seeing how
31:56
Speaker 13: much it can get away with andrew And the truth
31:59
Speaker 13: of the matter is it's getting away with a lot.
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Speaker 2: The one red line that the.
32:04
Speaker 13: President's been very clear about is don't harm our military personnel,
32:08
Speaker 13: and I guess that's why we had the retaliation after
32:10
Speaker 13: the helicopter was down. But in every other respect, Iran
32:14
Speaker 13: is showing that it's got military strength still to play with.
32:18
Speaker 13: It can direct it, it can target it. It's actually
32:22
Speaker 13: had now a couple of months to reconstitute some of
32:25
Speaker 13: its military forces, in some cases literally digging missile launches out.
32:32
Speaker 2: From facilities facilities where they had been buried.
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Speaker 13: So at the moment, I think Tehran is actually playing
32:39
Speaker 13: a tactically smarter game. To use the poker analogy, which
32:43
Speaker 13: Trump likes. They've got a limited hand, but they're playing
32:47
Speaker 13: it well, and they sense that the President is just
32:50
Speaker 13: desperate to sign a deal, any deal. I think this
32:55
Speaker 13: is just becoming wishful thinking, to be frank, But this
32:59
Speaker 13: is where we're at, and we'll see how long Trump
33:01
Speaker 13: has the patience to let them get away with this
33:03
Speaker 13: type of behavior.
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Speaker 3: Yes, there's one big inequality here. The Iranian leadership. They
33:11
Speaker 3: can say to their people, you can starve and die.
33:13
Speaker 3: As far as weak care, they've got no pressure in
33:15
Speaker 3: that regard. Trump has got elections coming up. The people's
33:19
Speaker 3: vote vote really does matter. Now there are reports that
33:24
Speaker 3: Israel now reckons Trump is so desperate that way that
33:28
Speaker 3: he's prepared to sign a deal that will give it
33:33
Speaker 3: ran a lot and leave it with its weapons grade uranium.
33:37
Speaker 3: I'm not sure these are just reports. What do you
33:39
Speaker 3: make of all this?
33:43
Speaker 13: Hard to know, to be honest with you, I mean,
33:45
Speaker 13: it may well be that what Trump thinks he can
33:48
Speaker 13: do is wait for the midterms to be out of
33:50
Speaker 13: the way and then revisit the situation. I've been thinking
33:54
Speaker 13: to myself about an analogy from Trump's first term Andrew,
33:58
Speaker 13: which was that he tried to cut a deal with
34:01
Speaker 13: Kim Jong un from North Korea to get them to
34:03
Speaker 13: give up nuclear weapons, and when it became clear to
34:06
Speaker 13: Trump that it wasn't possible that the North just was
34:09
Speaker 13: simply not going to move on that, he walked away
34:12
Speaker 13: from it as quickly as he possibly could, and then
34:15
Speaker 13: was more than happy to ignore North Korea for the
34:17
Speaker 13: rest of the first term and most of this term
34:19
Speaker 13: as well. The problem that Trump has with the Middle
34:23
Speaker 13: East is that he can't walk away from the Middle East.
34:25
Speaker 13: There are too many fundamental American interests, oil weapons, nuclear weapons,
34:31
Speaker 13: the source of terrorism Israel. There are too many fundamental
34:35
Speaker 13: things which keep America force America to remain engaged in
34:38
Speaker 13: the military security of the Middle East. And so Trump
34:41
Speaker 13: may kind of like just dismiss it all in frustration.
34:46
Speaker 2: But all that.
34:46
Speaker 13: Means is that they will be back, though. The Americans
34:49
Speaker 13: will be back at some point in the future when
34:51
Speaker 13: that nuclear threat becomes too close again, or when other
34:55
Speaker 13: strategic factors force the Americans to play some sort of role.
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Speaker 3: Now, quickly, you just mentioned North Korea. He's going to
35:04
Speaker 3: find it a bit hard to ignore North Korea. China's
35:08
Speaker 3: president this week visited it, visited the dictator Kim jongan,
35:12
Speaker 3: and agreed to more military cooperations. So America now faces
35:15
Speaker 3: China and its allies, North Korea, and Russia all nuclear around,
35:19
Speaker 3: and he ran soon could be nuclear armed too if.
35:23
Speaker 2: The US gives in. How dangerous is this?
35:28
Speaker 13: This is very dangerous. My friend Mike Kelly refers to
35:31
Speaker 13: these four countries as the rectangle of ratbags Andrew, I mean,
35:35
Speaker 13: they are nasty authoritarian regimes. North Korea is having a
35:40
Speaker 13: bit of an economic boom which is fueled by selling
35:44
Speaker 13: weapons and even soldiers to the Russians, and that I
35:48
Speaker 13: think is likely continue to continue. I think Sir Jim
35:52
Speaker 13: Ping went there because he's getting concerned that Kim and
35:55
Speaker 13: Vladimir Putin are getting a little too close. And it's
35:58
Speaker 13: always China is objective to make sure that they're the
36:00
Speaker 13: guys that are kind of dominating what happens in North Korea.
36:04
Speaker 13: So it's not a pleasant combination of countries, but their
36:09
Speaker 13: ability to support each other with weapons and even soldiers
36:14
Speaker 13: with nuclear technology shows that that's a group where together
36:18
Speaker 13: they are significantly stronger than any one of the four
36:21
Speaker 13: operating separately. And this is the strategic world that we
36:26
Speaker 13: now live in. It's a far more dangerous place than
36:29
Speaker 13: it was I think even half a decade ago. And
36:33
Speaker 13: you're right, the President can't take his eyes off any
36:35
Speaker 13: of those things, and nor should we in Australia be
36:38
Speaker 13: fooling ourselves. Somehow we've cracked the code and we've stabilized
36:41
Speaker 13: things with China.
36:43
Speaker 2: No we haven't. We've not altered china.
36:44
Speaker 13: Strategic objectives in any way, and we need to take
36:48
Speaker 13: a very cold, hard look at our own military capabilities
36:51
Speaker 13: and the strength of our alliances because they're the things
36:54
Speaker 13: we're going to fall back on to have to deal
36:56
Speaker 13: with this suituestion.
36:59
Speaker 2: So true.
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Speaker 3: Repeater Jennings, thank you so much for your time after
37:03
Speaker 3: the break. The ABC can't be trusted after its hiring
37:07
Speaker 3: of hard left activist Grace Tame and wait, do you
37:10
Speaker 3: hear the rubbish excuses that the ABC boss has given
37:14
Speaker 3: for her the panel? After this, I need to come
37:21
Speaker 3: back to something that ABC boss Hugh Mark said yesterday
37:23
Speaker 3: there to be shows why he cannot be trusted to
37:26
Speaker 3: tackle the ABC's now dangerous bias. He was asked by
37:30
Speaker 3: the ABC at hard left activist Grace Tame to host
37:34
Speaker 3: a podcast after she'd, after all, called for an interfada
37:38
Speaker 3: on our streets just after fifteen people were murdered at
37:42
Speaker 3: a Jewish festival in Bundo Beach.
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Speaker 2: Well Mark said, oh, well, she'd actually already been hard
37:46
Speaker 2: by the ABC at the time when we engaged her
37:50
Speaker 2: for the project.
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Speaker 14: That was actually some time ago, so it was before
37:54
Speaker 14: those particular comments that were made, and it was certainly
37:58
Speaker 14: also before I think the much quoted interview that she
38:02
Speaker 14: did with with Hamish McDonald on Sydney Mornings or also made.
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Speaker 3: Now there's two things that struck me about that. First,
38:11
Speaker 3: if Tame was already an abacy horror, which you called
38:13
Speaker 3: for an interofader, she Bridge must have the ABC code
38:16
Speaker 3: banding staff from getting political. To me, that's a sacking offense.
38:21
Speaker 3: But there was also that reference to what Tam had
38:23
Speaker 3: said in an interview with Hamish McDonald, her dismissal of
38:26
Speaker 3: documented evidence that Hermas terrorists had raped Jewish women in
38:30
Speaker 3: that October seven attack on Israeli civilians.
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Speaker 11: I'm not going to think to the level of entertaining
38:36
Speaker 11: any kind of propaganda, Hamish, what's.
38:40
Speaker 2: The product included in that question? There have been those
38:43
Speaker 2: things have been debunked.
38:46
Speaker 3: Now of course that those claims have not been debunked
38:49
Speaker 3: at all. In fact, they've been documented. So when Tame
38:52
Speaker 3: is so dismissive of evidence that Israeli women being not
38:56
Speaker 3: just raped but murdered and mutilated, how dare Marx waved
39:01
Speaker 3: it away yesterday like this.
39:04
Speaker 14: I've spoken to Grace and I know you know what
39:08
Speaker 14: she really abhorses the violence of any kind, particularly violence
39:12
Speaker 14: against women and children.
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Speaker 2: She abhors it, really has.
39:17
Speaker 3: She even now publicly said she's appalled by what was
39:21
Speaker 3: done to those Jewish women, said sorry for doubting them?
39:25
Speaker 2: Why not?
39:27
Speaker 3: And why does it take her boss to tell us
39:29
Speaker 3: she's dead against this, which she hasn't told that herself.
39:33
Speaker 3: Joining me at Jermintonnini eclumists and communications consultant Karen the Russo,
39:37
Speaker 3: commentator in Prisident of the West Australian Liberals, Jemmy the
39:42
Speaker 3: this Hugh Marx thing that doesn't gel with me, Well, it.
39:47
Speaker 4: Doesn't gel with me either. I'd be really interested to know. Oh,
39:53
Speaker 4: probably not going to be surprised, wouldn't be surprised by
39:55
Speaker 4: the outcome of what you know people at the ABC
39:57
Speaker 4: thought about that. I you know, this is just I've
40:02
Speaker 4: been employing people Andrew for two decades, twenty three years
40:04
Speaker 4: in July. So I understand a little bit of a
40:07
Speaker 4: bush expert in employment law in this country, because you
40:10
Speaker 4: have to be when you're in the real economy. And
40:12
Speaker 4: if somebody has signed a contract and then anyone not
40:16
Speaker 4: talking specifically about miss Tame, but if someone signs a
40:18
Speaker 4: contract and then for example, may violate the terms of
40:22
Speaker 4: that contract, which may, for example include, as they do
40:24
Speaker 4: in my own company, clauses around bringing the company into repute,
40:29
Speaker 4: behavior on social media, that sort of thing. Then it's
40:33
Speaker 4: not something that you just wave away, and there would
40:35
Speaker 4: also be a probation period, I imagine, depending on what
40:38
Speaker 4: any contract looks like.
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Speaker 1: What I find.
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Speaker 4: It's not just that Miss Tame said, you know those
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Speaker 4: things were debunked. It was the way that it was
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Speaker 4: kind of just, you know, Shelly Shelley to the side.
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Speaker 4: We know I don't have any time for the United Nations.
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Speaker 4: I think you should shut the joint down. But we
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Speaker 4: know that there's a woman called Promila Pattern. She is
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Speaker 4: the UN Secretary General's Special Representative on Sexual Violence in Conflict.
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Speaker 4: Her report on October seven is devastating reading. It's devastating reading,
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Speaker 4: and to her credit as a UN Special Representative, she
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Speaker 4: went there, she spoke to the victims, She documented it.
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you know the ABC knows that
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Speaker 4: that documents in existence. I don't know if mister Marx
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Speaker 4: knows if that documentary.
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, But the ABC accepts that that is wrong,
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Speaker 3: that the claims were debunked.
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Speaker 2: This this is the thing. It accepts that.
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Speaker 3: Right, But Caroline, can you give me can you think
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Speaker 3: of a good reason why?
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Speaker 2: The ABC boss.
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Speaker 3: Tells us, in reference to the rapes that a Grace
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Speaker 3: Tamer paused all violence against women. But we haven't heard
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Speaker 3: that from the woman who actually dismissed the rapes in
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Speaker 3: the first place. We haven't heard it from Grace Tam herself.
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Speaker 3: Why would that be? Can you think of a good
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Speaker 3: reason for that?
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Speaker 2: Well?
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Speaker 9: I can think of probably a few reasons. I say
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Speaker 9: there's a few, perhaps a radio host who are a
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Speaker 9: bit nervous to have her on after something like that.
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Speaker 9: But I think it goes to the point that those
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Speaker 9: sort of comments should just be a non starter. You
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Speaker 9: should just be a non starter. That's the material point.
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Speaker 9: But after let's just you know, colloquially call it the
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Speaker 9: Latoufe disaster. I think they found it easier to just
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Speaker 9: allow the collective to run the show, because when you
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Speaker 9: poorly manage issues instead of managing them, well, you end
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Speaker 9: up with those sorts of problems. And I think this
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Speaker 9: time they've gone obill instead of dealing with it, will
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Speaker 9: just vacate the field and hope that no one notices
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Speaker 9: Unfortunately we all noticed Andrew and the problem is is
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Speaker 9: that they've gone from poor management to no management and
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Speaker 9: hoping the rest of us just think that that's acceptable.
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Speaker 3: I think you might be onto something there. Yes, as
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Speaker 3: in German they say, you know, death by silence. I
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Speaker 3: think that's what they're trying to do.
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Speaker 2: Tuba.
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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but the stream press counselors
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Speaker 3: for years let itself be used by activists of the
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Speaker 3: left to punish conservatives, punish them by process, even if
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Speaker 3: the judgment, you know, isn't upheld. The f you have
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Speaker 3: to go to to answer these pitdly little questions.
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Speaker 2: Now, I wonder, though, if something has changed.
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Speaker 3: Because first it dismissed a huge complaint against me by
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Speaker 3: even a lobby group of Kevin Rudd's, claiming I'm wrong
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Speaker 3: to deny there wasn't a generation of children's stoles of
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Speaker 3: just being aboriginal. That's a third time. I think it's
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Speaker 3: investigated and cleared me. Now it's agreed that this cartoon
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Speaker 3: in the left wing nine newspapers is vile repeats an
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Speaker 3: anti Semitic trope by showing the Royal Commission into anti
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Speaker 3: smatters was actually manipulated into creation by powerful figures like
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Speaker 3: my boss, Robert Rupert Murdock marching to the drum of
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Speaker 3: Israel's Prime Minister. The Press Council correctly ruled what I
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Speaker 3: said at the time. I think what you said at
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Speaker 3: the time, Jemma, that this imagery encodes the anti Semitic
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Speaker 3: trope that Jewish people are secretly they secretly control or
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Speaker 3: manipulate global events, governments, financial systems, or the media. The
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Speaker 3: question is why didn't the editors of the agencity On
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Speaker 3: Herald see that.
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Speaker 2: At the time.
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Speaker 4: Well, that's only an answer that they can give. Obviously,
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Speaker 4: I was really pleased by seeing this judgment. I thought
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Speaker 4: it was surprising, it was welcome. Maybe something has shifted.
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Speaker 4: As you say, any sober minded person who takes a
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Speaker 4: centrist few of the world and doesn't, you know, perpetrate
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Speaker 4: those sorts of anti Semitic tropes, as the Press Council
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Speaker 4: described them accurately, would have looked at that cartoon and gone,
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Speaker 4: how did that get past? How did that pass the test?
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Speaker 6: How did it?
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Speaker 4: It's not daring, it's not it's not witty. Wasn't witty
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Speaker 4: or daring, or funny or clever. It was all of
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Speaker 4: the things that the Press Council found it to be
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Speaker 4: so as to Y nine media went, yeah, let's publish that.
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Speaker 4: Who knows, only they can answer that question.
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Speaker 2: Jem is on A makes a point there. I think, Caroline, it's.
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Speaker 3: The lack of humor that gives away the fact that
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Speaker 3: this was meant. It's not a joke.
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Speaker 2: It's not ha ha.
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Speaker 3: Isn't that funny, It's it is meant. They're marching to
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Speaker 3: the drum of the Israelis, these Jews. I mean, that's
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Speaker 3: how I see it. I don't know how you can
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Speaker 3: see how anyone could see it any different.
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Speaker 2: Where am I wrong?
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Speaker 9: Well, I think to have a sense of humor, you've
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Speaker 9: got to have some level of intelligence, some level of intellect,
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Speaker 9: and these sorts of views tend to occupy both ends
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Speaker 9: of the horseshoe where I have significant concerns for the
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Speaker 9: acquaintance with reality and perhaps some of the intellect that
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Speaker 9: belongs to those who occupied those particular areas. I think
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Speaker 9: anyone who looks at this and thinks that this is
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Speaker 9: funny or helpful or in any sense, and not even funny,
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Speaker 9: but just the bulls eye moment, right, That's what I
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Speaker 9: love about cartoons is our bullseye moment where you go, yep,
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Speaker 9: got it encapsulated in one noted move on. It does
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Speaker 9: none of those things. So it's a failure of its genre,
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Speaker 9: and it's a failure of what's a failure of its genre.
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Speaker 4: Let's just leave it at that, Andrew one more thing
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Speaker 4: if I could add to that. The thing I remember
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Speaker 4: feeling about that cartoon at the time because it was
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Speaker 4: so close to Bondai, I was so close. It was
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Speaker 4: the lack of humanity. People were grieving nashion Fourteen Jewish
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Speaker 4: people and a couple and a man who was not
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Speaker 4: Jewish gunned down on a beach on a beautiful summer's
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Speaker 4: afternoon in city. The lack of humanity. People are grieving still,
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Speaker 4: and this cartoon inferred as the Press Council found that,
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Speaker 4: oh gosh, people couldn't actually want to have a royal
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Speaker 4: commission in order to understand what's destroying one of the
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Speaker 4: things that's destroying our social fabric, it must be the Jews.
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Speaker 4: I mean that, the lack of the lack of humanity.
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Speaker 4: I don't understand it. I will never understand it. I
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Speaker 4: am so pleased at this judgment of the as Counsel.
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Speaker 2: You're so right there.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, why would they be weeping for
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Speaker 3: the Jews of wanting answers must be it's just.
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Speaker 4: So bab Say quick, Jemmy, you better start talking about
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Speaker 4: a royal commission like these people are in These people
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Speaker 4: I feel need to go outside, log off and smell
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Speaker 4: the roses.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, Caroline, Australia's changed, and I think that's
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Speaker 3: one of the reasons Pauline Hanson's taken off, don't you.
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Speaker 9: Oh, I don't know if it's necessarily well, Australia has changed.
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Speaker 9: I mean, all cultures and all nations were dynamic, right,
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Speaker 9: nothing ever stays the same. And I guess that takes
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Speaker 9: me back to my favorite book The Leopard, that everything
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Speaker 9: has to change for everything to stay the same.
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Speaker 13: Eye.
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Speaker 9: You let me in a big, big way, Andrew. But
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Speaker 9: I think people feel really disappointed. And we've had periods
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Speaker 9: of very good government in this country, and we have
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Speaker 9: had periods of very poor government in this country. And
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Speaker 9: one thing that we have seen over time, and not
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Speaker 9: just Australia but worldwide, is we are seeing this fracturing.
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Speaker 9: And when you have a fracturing together with poor government,
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Speaker 9: this is the sort of thing that you see and
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Speaker 9: if I can by way of you know, an example
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Speaker 9: to the opposite five seconds and even somewhere you look
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Speaker 9: at somewhere like Queensland that has a very good coalition
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Speaker 9: government and they're doing a bit better there.
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Speaker 2: So true. Gematon, Ninnie, Carolyn de Russo, thank you very
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Speaker 2: much to you both. That's it for me.
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Speaker 3: The leopard is a great, great book cup next to
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Speaker 3: cherry marks and good night, So true, Gematon, Ninnie, Carolyn
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Speaker 3: de Russo, thank you very much to you both.
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Speaker 2: That's it for me.
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Speaker 3: The leopard is a great, great book cup next to
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Speaker 3: cherry markson good night,