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Interview: Daniel Descalso and Jon Jay join the show · Cardinal Territory: A St. Louis Cardinals Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hi, Hello, welcome back to Cardinal Territory.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your host Kwu here with a special guest interview episode.
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  Speaker 2: These two need no introduction, but I'm going to give
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  Speaker 2: them anyway. Cardinals fans know them, love them. Cardinals coaches
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  Speaker 2: Daniel discussA and John Jay joined the show. Guys, welcome
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  Speaker 2: to Cardinal Territory.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for doing this finally, time you had us on.
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  Speaker 1: Well, sorry, you're so popular, You're just in such high demand.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this was supposed to happen on like February.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, look better late than never.
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  Speaker 2: And when Cardinals fans watch this episode, it will be
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  Speaker 2: the final day of what has been a week long
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: road trip to Seattle and Milwaukee. Yeah, it's a it's
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  Speaker 2: a weird time for Cardinals baseball. We'll touch on the
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  Speaker 2: We'll touch on the news. First of the series, Mason
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  Speaker 2: win went ahead and called it a season with a
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  Speaker 2: left nope, right meniscus tear that he was trying to
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  Speaker 2: play through. He was scratched on Tuesday's game against the Mariners,
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  Speaker 2: was not able to play even an off day on Thursday,
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  Speaker 2: so manager Ali Marmle made the decision to end mason season.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, We'll start with you, Scales.
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  Speaker 2: What did you see from Mason Win this year that
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  Speaker 2: really impressed you from just an overall player standpoint.
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  Speaker 5: I mean you talk about what jumps off the page
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  Speaker 5: first is is his defense. Obviously, the guy has been
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  Speaker 5: as rock solid as they come out there at shortstop,
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  Speaker 5: you know, a very demanding position. He gets to a
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  Speaker 5: lot of balls, has the great arm, He puts a
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  Speaker 5: lot of work into it. You could tell as the
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  Speaker 5: season war on it just the knee just became too
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  Speaker 5: much for him. He tried to post as as best
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  Speaker 5: he could, and I give him a lot of credit
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  Speaker 5: for running out there not at one hundred percent. He
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  Speaker 5: knows that him at eighty percent is so maybe our
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  Speaker 5: best option at shortstop.
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  Speaker 3: So he took a lot of strids forward defensively this year.
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  Speaker 5: You know, he brings he brings energy to that position,
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  Speaker 5: brings energy to our lineup, and you know we're gonna
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  Speaker 5: miss having him for the last couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Mason's been great, and I think you know Daniel
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  Speaker 4: hit on it where you know he played out He
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  Speaker 4: played out there at eighty percent and we saw what
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  Speaker 4: he was doing out there. So I'm looking forward to
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  Speaker 4: seeing a healthy Mason win next year, and I think
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  Speaker 4: you know, you can continue to grow, right. You know,
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  Speaker 4: in our experiences, every year you get a little bit
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  Speaker 4: better and you start realizing things. And I think this
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  Speaker 4: was a big year for him and we saw it right.
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  Speaker 4: He put in the work on defense and he saw
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  Speaker 4: the results, and I feel like he's going to do
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  Speaker 4: out the rest of his game and I'm excited to
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  Speaker 4: see Mason win next year.
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  Speaker 6: Play.
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  Speaker 2: This is such a unique time for this Cardinals organization
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  Speaker 2: and you guys obviously started your careers in Saint Louis
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  Speaker 2: at a time where the Saint Louis Cardinals were at
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  Speaker 2: a peak and right now we're looking at what is
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  Speaker 2: likely going to be a rebuild. I mean, we were
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  Speaker 2: almost through this transition year and the whole premise of
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  Speaker 2: this season was to find players or identify players that
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  Speaker 2: could be a part of this future, and there were
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  Speaker 2: so many different options coming into the year.
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  Speaker 1: JJ.
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  Speaker 2: For you, I mean, you've spent a ton of time
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  Speaker 2: making this out feel better, working with different guys. Is
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  Speaker 2: there anyone that you feel like took advantage of this
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  Speaker 2: season from a coach perspective that you're excited about going
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  Speaker 2: into twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 6: I think there's a few different guys.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Alec Burrowson started the year off
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  Speaker 4: as the first baseman they're with really a lot of
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  Speaker 4: paying time for him, and then you've we've seen what
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  Speaker 4: he's been able to do and he's improved on the
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  Speaker 4: outfield and it's all testament to him. Early in the year,
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  Speaker 4: when he wasn't getting the reps that you know, he
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  Speaker 4: could have been getting, he was out there, you know,
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  Speaker 4: putting the work in during banding practice behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 4: and then it really paid off for him. So I think,
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  Speaker 4: you know, he made a lot of big strides and
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  Speaker 4: I'm happy for him with the year he's had.
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  Speaker 1: Sky's what about you.
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  Speaker 3: I think Burley has done a great job.
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  Speaker 5: You know, he was a guy that we told we
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  Speaker 5: told him, hey, you be ready to come play first year,
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  Speaker 5: and you know, he didn't have a lot of opportunities
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  Speaker 5: early and he fought his way into the lineup. I
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  Speaker 5: think Yvon Herrera taking the next step forward as a hitter.
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  Speaker 5: He's battled some injuries, but when he's been in the lineup,
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  Speaker 5: like he's an impact bat for us. A young guy
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  Speaker 5: that's that's learning how to how to be a middle
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  Speaker 5: of the order hitter for us. So it's nice to
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  Speaker 5: see those guys take those steps and really try to
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  Speaker 5: and establish themselves as as solid major league performers, because
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  Speaker 5: it's it's a hard gig these guys have. You know,
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  Speaker 5: they're balancing establishing themselves, you know, personally, to try and
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  Speaker 5: set set themselves up for the future, while also being
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  Speaker 5: a part of, you know, trying to learn what it
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  Speaker 5: is to be a winning player. So I give those
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  Speaker 5: guys a lot of credit for taking steps forward this year.
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  Speaker 2: And when you think about just what the organization was
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  Speaker 2: trying to accomplish this year, I mean, we have oh
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  Speaker 2: two weeks left of the regular season, definitely enough time
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  Speaker 2: to look at a bunch of different players and say, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this season was a success in this regard, here's where
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  Speaker 2: this player needs to take steps forward to coming next year.
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  Speaker 2: When you look at this core of twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 2: and granted some of it might change with the new
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  Speaker 2: front office, where do you feel like this this team
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  Speaker 2: could be with the players currently on the roster coming
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  Speaker 2: into next year.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, I think we start this see here
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  Speaker 5: as like you know, call it runway, call it whatever
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  Speaker 5: you want. I don't think we really knew what to expect.
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  Speaker 5: I people would ask me the off season, and I
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  Speaker 5: would I'm really not sure what kind of team we're
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  Speaker 5: going to be this year, Like we might be good
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  Speaker 5: and we might be really bad, and we've been somewhere
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  Speaker 5: in the middle. I think maybe we outperformed expectations for
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  Speaker 5: a little while and have underperformed lately. But I think
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  Speaker 5: you see, you've seen some of these guys get that
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  Speaker 5: necessity experience uh JJ and I talked about all the time.
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  Speaker 5: It takes hundreds of a bat's one hundreds of played
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  Speaker 5: appearances years in the big leagues before you really understand
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  Speaker 5: what type of player you are, what you do well,
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  Speaker 5: what you don't do well, how the league is trying
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  Speaker 5: to attack you, and it's just a game of adjustments.
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  Speaker 5: The league, the league adjust to you to find how
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  Speaker 5: to get you out. Then you have to adjust back,
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  Speaker 5: and that continues for your whole career. I think some
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  Speaker 5: of these guys are learning what it takes to do
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  Speaker 5: that and and that's what it takes to stick around
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  Speaker 5: in this game for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think the prime example is, you know, you see
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  Speaker 4: a guy like bitter Scott, we talked about taking strides,
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  Speaker 4: and we've seen what he's done on defense and base
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  Speaker 4: running wise and offense. Like like Daniel said, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it takes play appearance, it takes that experience. So you know,
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  Speaker 4: I expect him to go into the off season and
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  Speaker 4: you know, make some adjustments. But he's been great on
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  Speaker 4: the way he's handled the you know, kind of the
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  Speaker 4: mental side of it, which is probably the hardest part
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  Speaker 4: about this game. Rights, It's a game of failure and
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  Speaker 4: it's you know, how are you going to respond to
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  Speaker 4: two adversity? So I think these guys have been through
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  Speaker 4: a lot of adversity this year, you know, personally as
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  Speaker 4: a team, and I'm looking forward to seeing them, you know,
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  Speaker 4: how they build off the season.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you.
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  Speaker 2: Guys know all about that, just based on your careers,
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  Speaker 2: both as players and now as coaches, And I think
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  Speaker 2: that's something that Cardinals fans like. Obviously they know you
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  Speaker 2: wherever wherever Scalzo was, Jay's right there. You guys are
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  Speaker 2: very much a packaged deal, and it's been that way
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  Speaker 2: throughout your entire career as you both manage or not
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  Speaker 2: managed a coach for the Cardinals. This season together, what
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  Speaker 2: has been the best part of doing.
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  Speaker 5: That, I think just showing up to work every day
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  Speaker 5: with one of your best friends and trying to pass
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  Speaker 5: along any information, any wisdom, any experience to the to
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  Speaker 5: these players going forward, Like we don't have all the answers,
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  Speaker 5: but we've seen a lot of baseball. We've seen a
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  Speaker 5: lot of winning baseball, been a part of winning teams.
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  Speaker 5: And the only one I took this job, and I
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  Speaker 5: think I can speak for for Jay as well, is
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  Speaker 5: is to be a part of a winning team. And
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  Speaker 5: so no matter what the expectations are, we're you know,
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  Speaker 5: what our record is, we are trying to impart you know,
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  Speaker 5: winning habits on these guys, and I think we just
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  Speaker 5: we just can't help but look at the gate like that.
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  Speaker 5: And so we talk a lot about what we saw
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  Speaker 5: in the game that night, what we might see moving forward,
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  Speaker 5: a lot about our experiences, and just to have someone
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  Speaker 5: you trust, someone that you've gone gone through these ups
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  Speaker 5: and downs with in the coaches room with you is just, Uh,
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  Speaker 5: it's been a lot of fun, you know, through the
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  Speaker 5: ups and end of down.
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  Speaker 3: Like we we just have a good time together.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been fun and talk all the ups and downs.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's been cool where we live moments
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  Speaker 4: that happened in our career right, whether positive or negatively,
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  Speaker 4: to help this group of guys now. So you know,
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  Speaker 4: there might be mistakes that we made in the past
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  Speaker 4: and we can you know, we'll come back home and like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: remember when you did this, only I did this or that,
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  Speaker 4: and then you know, how can we portray that story
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  Speaker 4: the next day to help these guys. So it's been
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  Speaker 4: a ton of fun being able to show up to
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  Speaker 4: work every day with your best friend and for me personally,
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  Speaker 4: just to see Daniel you obviously in his role as
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  Speaker 4: a bench coach and you know, being the manager's right
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  Speaker 4: hand man. So you know, I get to see that
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  Speaker 4: every single day and it's pretty cool to see him
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  Speaker 4: in this position and to see him leading, and you
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  Speaker 4: know the impact that he's had on all these guys.
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  Speaker 6: It's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: It is definitely pretty cool, I mean, just from an
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  Speaker 2: immediate perspective to see how the coaching staff has really
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  Speaker 2: had to change in terms of expectations for the organization.
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  Speaker 1: You guys know this.
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  Speaker 2: The Cardinals were always you know, it wasn't just B
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  Speaker 2: five hundred or make the wild card. It was establish
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  Speaker 2: yourself in the NAL Central at the minimum and make
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  Speaker 2: these deep postseason runs, and you guys came to an
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  Speaker 2: era where you were able to do that. The Cardinals
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  Speaker 2: right now are working to get there. But right now
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  Speaker 2: the evaluation and the coaching is more about developing at
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  Speaker 2: the major leagues. Was that difficult for either of you
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  Speaker 2: to really kind of have to make those changes because
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  Speaker 2: those that's not who we were as players.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, I think, go ahead, j D.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think for me personally, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: spent two years over in Miami and kind of saw
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  Speaker 4: the impact you can have as a coach. Right the
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  Speaker 4: first year we took over the brand new staff and
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  Speaker 4: we were able to make a playoff run, which is
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  Speaker 4: pretty cool. So, you know, having those experiences from the
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  Speaker 4: past have helped me now to become in this stage
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  Speaker 4: over now. But it doesn't change for me. Every single day,
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying to win a ball game. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 4: help guys, you.
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  Speaker 6: Know, develop their game.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, my mindset hasn't changed it all. The
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  Speaker 4: way I approached the game doesn't change it all. I
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  Speaker 4: think that's something I did as a player, right whether
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  Speaker 4: I was starting or off the bench. Whatever it was,
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  Speaker 4: I was trying to find a way to help the
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  Speaker 4: team win. And that's what I try to do every
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  Speaker 4: single day.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 5: I think industry wide, you're seeing more teaching and coaching
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  Speaker 5: at the major league level then we first came up.
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  Speaker 5: You know, guys get to the big leagues quickly, and
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  Speaker 5: they may miss some stuff along the way in the
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  Speaker 5: minor leagues, and that's our job, appear to make sure
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  Speaker 5: that if we see something that you know isn't up
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  Speaker 5: to par, or that we don't like that, or that
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  Speaker 5: we do like that, we reinforce it and we have
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  Speaker 5: those conversations over again, even if the players don't want
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  Speaker 5: to hear it right. We have to teach and we
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  Speaker 5: have to coach, and it's our job to make sure
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  Speaker 5: that those those legs are learned and those messages land,
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  Speaker 5: and we will get to a point.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get back to a.
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  Speaker 5: Point where the Cardinals are in the conversation in central
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  Speaker 5: every year, and it starts in the minor leagues and
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  Speaker 5: being aligned from a ball all the way up to
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  Speaker 5: the to the major league level, and so when we
• 10:46
  Speaker 5: get up there, we're on the same page and we
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  Speaker 5: can just hit the ground running.
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  Speaker 2: That's good stuff from Cardinals coaches Daniel Discusso and John
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Well, you guys have some fun
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  Speaker 1: events coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Specifically, Jay, the third annual J Family Foundation Golf and
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  Speaker 2: Games event is Wednesday, September seventeenth. This is something that
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  Speaker 2: I believe you started when you were in Saint Louis previously,
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  Speaker 2: and this is the grand return.
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  Speaker 4: Correct this event we started a couple of years ago,
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  Speaker 4: so it's gonna be a third one. But you know
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  Speaker 4: we've done previous events in Saint Louis with the Make
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  Speaker 4: a Wish Foundation and also with the Boys and Girls Club,
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  Speaker 4: having both in events.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, this year is super fun.
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  Speaker 4: Daniel's my co host, which is it's always great to
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  Speaker 4: be able to do something together for the community. But
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  Speaker 4: it's over at Family Golf that is owned by Adam Betts,
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  Speaker 4: who's a good friend of ours. As well, he's another
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  Speaker 4: co host, And yeah, it's going to benefit the Jay
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  Speaker 4: Family Foundation as long as well as the PGA Reach,
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  Speaker 4: Gateway Foundation and the Boys and Girls Club of Saint Louis.
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  Speaker 2: So for those of you who aren't familiar or who
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  Speaker 2: might not know much about the Jay Family Foundation, what's
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  Speaker 2: the premise of your organization and why did you partner
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  Speaker 2: and choose at this event.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, our foundation, you know, we really in some of
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  Speaker 4: our pillars is youth, community and scholarship. So really we're
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  Speaker 4: just trying to, you know, help the youth out any
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  Speaker 4: way we can. You know, we were able to send
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  Speaker 4: kids to baseball camps, We're able to send kids after
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  Speaker 4: school programs back in Miami, you know, provide them with
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  Speaker 4: equipment for baseball or for school. So we kind of,
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  Speaker 4: you know, help out wherever we can. And in Saint Louis,
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  Speaker 4: it's been great to get involved the community there. And
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  Speaker 4: PGA Reach is somebody that we partner with and they're
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  Speaker 4: actually building a pretty cool youth community center over at
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  Speaker 4: the Boys and Girls Club, So some of these funds
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  Speaker 4: are going to be raised towards towards that project, which
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  Speaker 4: is pretty cool. And I also do during the holidays.
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  Speaker 4: We do a skateboard giveaway over at the Boys and
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  Speaker 4: Girls Club as well. So, you know, Saint Louis is
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  Speaker 4: you know, everyone knows I love Miami and from Miami
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  Speaker 4: and all that, but Saint Louis is my second home.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I'm always proud to say that.
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  Speaker 2: Scout's how excited are you to partner with jam and
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  Speaker 2: you guys do everything together. But I mean, let's let's
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: add some context here. Golf is a relatively new hobby
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  Speaker 2: for Jay. You're I don't want to say this, but
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  Speaker 2: you are kind of good at golf. We'll talk about it,
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk about your performance, but first, what's it like
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  Speaker 2: to partner with him and just kind of have you know,
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  Speaker 2: another event that you guys can do together.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, he's his work in the charitable space
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  Speaker 5: is inspired and so when he asked me to if
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  Speaker 5: I want to partner with him, of course the answer
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  Speaker 5: was yes.
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  Speaker 3: And to watch what he's done over the years through
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  Speaker 3: his events.
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  Speaker 5: And the impact he's been able to have on the community,
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: I'm happy to be a part of it. It's it's
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: a fun event we've done. I've been there a couple
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: of times now, Uh, fan golf and the Family Golf
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: Centers is awesome space.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: We have a good time. There'll be a long drive contest.
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: I think they'll be a close to the pin contest,
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: and if I'm mistaken, the winner of the close to
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: the pin contest will square off against me in the finals.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: So that'll be an extra little bonus treat.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: So you just you just ask that yourself to the finals,
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: no matter what.
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: Did yet?
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: No, they just that's their their prize for winning and
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: they get to play against me in the finals.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: So what are you going to do when I beat
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: you in the finals? How are you going to react
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: to that?
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't know if I'll be able to
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: show my face anywhere in Saint Louis if that happens.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: I can't wait. We're talking to woman's long drive champion
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: of the Cardinals.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: Cardinals Charcas, that is I forgot? And what did you win? Again?
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: A golf bag?
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: Nice good price?
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well went to my dad. So I'm terrible to
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: you guys.
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: I came top three, you know, I was the third
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: place finish.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: So for what pool?
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: The best pool there was? I'm not sure.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: I think it was the second I could be wrong,
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: but I think it was the second pool his team.
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: His team did finish third in the beef, so he
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: did come up. He came up with something, what did
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: you win?
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: I want a club, believe a putter?
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and I also am probably say that we
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: used my ball about eight times in the tournament.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: So nice, nice? I contributed, Yeah, I.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Said one time on the course day.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: But but when you saw me whose drive was my
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: group using yours?
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: I was very impressed. I couldn't believe it. Honestly, I
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: was shocked.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, well, I'm looking forward to it. It sounds like
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: it should be a really fun event. How how we
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: fare at closest to the pin? I don't know, Scout's
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on you. But for details who
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: anyone who'd like to donate or find out more about
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: this event, you can visit the Jfamilyfoundation dot com. Do
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: you guys have anything else coming up in our final
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: home stand? That makes me a little sad. Actually we
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: just have six home games left. What Scouts that will
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: start with you? What do you want to see from
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: this team as they close out what they have at home?
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: I just want to see the see us like push
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: to the finish. You know, we technically we're still in it.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: We're going to need to have some help, you know,
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: square from a couple of teams, but the finish lines inside, like,
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: I just want to see these guys compete all the
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: way to the end. There's there's guys that are competing
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: for jobs next year, and we've we've talked about opportunity
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: in that clubhouse, and there's always there's always opportunit using
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: this game, whether you're showcasing yourself for our new front
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: office and for a role next year, or there's other
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: teams out there that they may trade for guys.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: So just for us to compete, grind out through the finish.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: It's not easy when you're on the outside looking in
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: of a playoff race, but we just want these guys
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: to finish strong and heading the off season a positive note.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: I think the word that resonates is compete, right, just
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: go out there and compete, you know, finish, Don't worry
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: about the record, don't warn about the standings, to just
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: go out there, finish and compete and continue to build
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: towards the future, which is next year. And so I'm
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: looking forward to seeing these guys compete with the routines
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: and just with what they do every day.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: When you're looking at this team, and I think we
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: by the time this episode drops, we'll have a lucky
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: number thirteen games remaining. What's going to be important for
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: this young core to take away from this season because
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: this is most likely going to be not maybe the
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: exact same roster, but a very similar roster next year
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: in terms of players that are going to be under
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: team control, the core that the Cardinals like to establish,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: it's going to be these guys are essentially responsible for
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: creating the culture and the team that you guys once did.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: What's going to be the biggest lesson they take away
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: from this year?
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: I think it's going to be ownership over that clubhouse.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: There are a few guys in that clubhouse that are
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: that have had three four years of service now and
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: they're kind of coming into that that phase of their
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: career where they're the they can be the bridge guys
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: between the veterans and the young players, and and we'd
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: really like to see, uh, some of those guys step
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: up and take ownership. There's times where, uh, you're waiting
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: for a player to say something in the meeting and
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: and nobody does. And these guys are getting to that
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: level where they have experience in the bis now and
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: they've seen, you know, hundreds of games and been a
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: part of you know, big spots and stuff, and and
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: I like to see them, you know, take some ownership
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: of the direction of this franchise, because ultimately, it doesn't
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: matter what Olie says, what what the coaching staff says,
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: what upstairs says. It comes down to the players on
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: the field, and they have to make a decision with direction.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: They're they're going to take this thing. So I'd like
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: to see that that ownership take place and those guys
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: rise to the and take that step.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, taking ownership of the season, right, you know, looking
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: at it and saying what do I need to do
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: to improve?
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: What did I do good? What did I do bad?
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: And having an.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Honest assessment of the season and moving forward. Right.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: Like we said earlier, this game is not easy. It's hard,
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: and it takes a lot of experience to get to
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: the point you want to get to. So, you know,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: my thing for them is, hey, look at yourself in
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: the mirror. What can you improve on and how are
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: you going to improve on that? And let's attack that
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: and let's get ready.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: For next year.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: All right, we got one more message from our friends
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: at Arena Club featuring as I'm looking at the video
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: and ad read from AJ Prazinski, who was a late
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: scratched from today's show. So foul Territory subscribers, make sure
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: that we give AJ a lot of crap on his
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: next episode, because this was supposed to be a collaborative effort.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: But late scratch not a gamer.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, AJ normally posts, so I am shocked that
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: he didn't post. Shocked and disappointed.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: Correct, I'm disappointed. Well that's the new word I'll.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Use, Aj, We're disappointed in you. Let's hear from We're
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: gonna Club and we'll end. Uh what we're done.
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: Time time for your weekly Arena Club segment where we
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: see what AJ pulls from a slab pack and here
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: we go, pull a little Emerald pack this week. AJ
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: looking for something big.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Always, I'm always looking for the big thing. Next.
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: Big things, got big money, big money, baby. We've got
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: a Dave Winfield card from nineteen seventy four to seventy
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: four tops card from this Emerald pack. Estimated value three
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: hundred bucks. You could sell it back for two seventy
• 20:42
  Speaker 8: sod So I feel like you are into more of
• 20:45
  Speaker 8: the current players. Would that be accurate?
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: Like legend in my showroom, I have a Robin you out,
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: I have a Griffy rookie card.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Think that's true? So I mean I have some older
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: vintage players Bob Gibson.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you have Gibson.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: So I know I disagree Scott, But Dave Winfield for
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: that mount of money back, I'm reselling it.
• 21:02
  Speaker 8: And if you want to get your own pack or
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: new card, you can get twenty percent off your first
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: slab pack or card purchase at arenaclub dot com slash foul.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: All right, do you guys want to end on a
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: sentimental note?
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: Sure?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Do we have a choice, No, you don't.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: You guys have done almost every single chapter of your
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: career as whether they were as rookies, the later parts
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: of your careers, and now as you start your coaching careers,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: it's you've been a tandem and that kind of bond
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: is rare, especially in baseball. But when I like to
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: call this my trauma bond with my fellow beat writers,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: when you go through a multiple seasons over and over
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: and it's two hundred games, you're away from your family
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: most of the time, the people you surround yourself with
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: really do become family, and it really does matter. As
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: you are both watching Jjb'll start with you when you
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: watch Scouse start his coaching career and what he's learned
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: as a bench coach, and now that you guys are together,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: what's his strength? What are you proud of when you
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: see him in his everyday routine.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I think one of the biggest thing is is he's
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: even cut right He doesn't. He doesn't he doesn't have
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: a reaction right away to things. You know, he takes
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: the emotion out of it. And I think that calming
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: presence is something.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: That I look towards a lot of times.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Right things are going on during the game, things targetting
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: fast and I can kind of look at him and
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: he's calm. So I think that's one of the biggest
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: traits that he has, that he's calm and he's cool
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: and under control, and it's something that I know I'm
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: a little bit different with that, So I always admire
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: his ability to really, you know, be in the moment
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: and not be emotional, which is something that's pretty cool.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Scoleston.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: You see Jay I mean, he had two years in
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Miami under mutual friend of the podcast skipt Schumacher, and
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: now you see him in a different role with a
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: different organization that means so much to you, guys.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: What do you see from him as a coach?
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: I think the things that it's about from John are
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: his work ethic and his energy. Right, this guy shows
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: up to the park every day with energy, sometimes more
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: energy than the players and gets after it with those guys.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: He demands a lot, but he has a lot to give.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: So it's fun to see him out there. If the
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: outfield coach is shagging out there, then then the players
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: are like, man, I've better re out there shagging too.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: He's running sprints with them, holding guys accountable. So you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: that work ethic and that energy that he bring every
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: day is inspiring and he just out there to make
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: guys better, and so it's fun to watch him to
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: watch work.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I will say earlier in the year, definitely in the
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: first half, we were on the you know the track
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: pregame watching VP and there was this guy in like
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: far way in centerfield hoodie on. My clue should have
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: been that he also had a beanie on, but I
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: was like, which outfielder is getting after it? Like leaping
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: at the wall, like going all out. It wasn't as
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: impressed with a stubby claps diving stop a couple of weeks
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: ago on the infield during VP, but it was pretty
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: close and I looked over.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: And I was like, Oh, that's that's John Jay. That's
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: not an outfielder on the team. That is John Jay.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: You still have a JA. I think. I think if
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: they really needed you, could you go out there and.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: Post I want to see yes, I want to see yes.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: Well I'm not.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: He's the emergency outfredre for you to activate somebody from
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: the staff.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, well then what's your role?
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I know, I'll let him get after it. I'm done playing.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: I'll let him shag.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: You have to say, because your manager is most likely
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: getting ejected at some point during so you have to
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: be there. Has to be like a backup manager on reserve.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, I'll hold myself out just but.
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: He's been he's been really good this year.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: He has he has the most.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: But we did set the line earlier this year.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: He said four and a half, and I think Jay
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: and I both laughed at him and I know he's
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: hit the over, but he.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Has been good.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: He has been good some well, sometimes a player freaks
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: out and then the manager has no choice but to
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: go out there, so mend him for that. I don't
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: think he always wants to get ejected, but sometimes as
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: the manager, you don't really have a choice. Yeah, we can,
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: but there's there's sometimes that he wants to get ejected.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can tell, you can tell.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: My favorite was when he got ejected the last game
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: of the first half and we had this like four
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: hour rain delay, and he got ejected in the bottom
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: of the eighth and he comes flying out and he
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: has eight fingers up and I'm not I can I
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: just know him and I did like the lip rid
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: later and you can see him say, you threw me
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: out in the eighth because you man sit through an
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: entire rain delay, you know, rightfully, So if you're gonna
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: throw me out, do it before the delay.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: But I will say, we have not at least Alie
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: and I haven't gotten thrown out on the same play
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: this year at all.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Like we did last year twice in Milwaukee twice run
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: it back. We have two more chances, so we have
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: run it back for all time sakes. The people may
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: want to see J managed. I don't know.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Is that how the Jay we're it?
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I'm in last last year with Alie me Turner, so
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: we're gonna go Brownie. I don't know.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know, guys, Let's find out. Does everyone get righted?
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: And then eventually, Oh, I've been good, I've been I've
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: been good this year.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I've been good. For now?
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: All right, guys, I know you have to get to
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: American Family Field for a thrilling seven to fifteen matchup
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: against the Brewers and which maybe a J presents people
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: show up to that one.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: He just texted me. By the way, I hope it's
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: an apology. AJ.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: If you're watching this, it's only because we care and
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: we know that you're better than this.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: You're better.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: I think that that gig pays more than this gig,
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: so I'm sure he'll post for that one.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, does this not look like a high quality podcast?
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Too serious? All right?
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Day, scous thanks so much for doing this again.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: You would like to check out more about the J
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Family Foundation, you can do so at Jfamilyfoundation dot com.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the event on Wednesday and hoping
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: to finish the season strong.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Thanks. Its always guys, We'll talk soon, see you all
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Right, Thanks Katie,