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• Marko: That's it. Tim: Hello, Happy Independence Day. Or maybe someone from our audience to Maybe they already gone. Marko: Have a day, Tim: Well, that's a new way of I what we started with But we are again the of and this is now the third, the second part. I like to by saying that it matter to everyone who has heard It's very nice to see statistically that people are listening, both to health side, and big part. And we hope that we help to grow it. I don't know, but I at the Natura concert, well actually at the Natura concert I went to Pexel Boys concert which was the biggest one. Marko: I saw the stories, it seemed like it Tim: It was a dream come true for as Marko: King Gala. Tim: in the I thought that 10 shows, 65 000 viewers per show. and boys did job. Two hours Marko: Hmm. Tim: at the end of different outfits, the stage dance, song, engagement, not to say. So yeah, I think it's very... Marko: But always find it interesting hear in vocal way. Mm-hmm. Tim: I saw that it was interesting how much pocketed the money, how much they worked with it. Marko: Hmmmm Tim: I actually 10 shows, 65,000 people per show. I thought how much is the ticket price? Well, let's 200. I googling, connecting with another intellectual. Well, don't think There are very expensive hospitality packages and even Golden Circle tickets were also very expensive. Long story short, Backstreet Boys are with 10 shows to 46 million. that we have not been popular since 1997. 30 years mark 30 not 10 Marko: Nooo... Okay. I'll talk to you later. Tim: But yeah, what I wanted to with was that it would add Backstreet Boys the somehow subliminal, Man City scandal that we already talked about Marko: You a decent rabbit hole, as I understand. Tim: Well, thought I should talk about and what I still wondering about last time, yesterday or yesterday, the last episode we talked about at high level, who has only heard them. Now I wanted to understand what has happened in I spent some time and gathered the timeline of bigger things that have happened and thought that today I you first, just to the listeners, that we will put this thing as a frame, at the same time, let's see where we go. and why it can't be the most common case. And if you have any questions Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: I'll try to answer a positive and interactive way, but that's And that's it. Marko: Three hours later. Tim: I will say that I a Chelsea fan and we have had the same situation. We have also a draft, we have also been situation where we didn't get two transfer windows, so the advantage is 20. Marko: Sorry, asked in between. Chelsea had a mischarge or what the was, what they did Tim: The biggest problem with the is that Manchester City has said that that high level is the same, that the owner puts a amount of in the football club masks it one way or another. Marko: Yeah. Yeah. Tim: Chelsea made large sum of 320 million on a basis, Manchester City made 2.2 billion So that's the story. But what at the Marko: It's also very difficult to how many people are so much faking money. I pump up billions dollars in my and money. It's difficult. Tim: Yeah, yeah, it's easy to tell us that it's legal problem. If you look at the then you're just a sales area. can see in a raha pump ama lab cocko. At first, it wasn't fair. You could do it. You could buy a club and start giving Then you did it. And then it a lot. And then it's actually a kind of Patient zero, what is the this thing? That's why it's. Marko: Yeah. Tim: Yeah. I know everything about this topic, so I won't there soon. So the overall concept is that Citi was in 2008. Then bought the Arab Emirates from Sheikh, Sheikh Mansouri. They 200 million, which is very, very expensive. but the first year of was necessary to big statement, where the British record was where last day Real Madrid bought Strabino. At that time, no had paid that kind money before the The next period, take 2018-2012, simply put it like that, there is pumped 1 billion in in year 2011, Marko: Yeah, Yeah, yeah. Not okay, Dan. Tim: Uefa to It wasn't okay. What is the Marko: Mm. Tim: most important when you say that people have so much fucking money that they come to and start to it better and Buy it and you get it. Say that not okay. Panty bike rule. If you want to financial fair play, then you have to have financial... Marko: Before that, financial fairs didn't exist before 2011. Wild wild west around. Tim: I'm not fan it. I'm not of I'm I'm So now we're to something like, you can pump but you can pump in a way that your club's budget, after three years, doesn't have to 37 million dollars. Right? can put in but three... Marko: Okay, so you have to work that I think, Tim: Yes, you can in some amount, but you have to be very careful so that you don't do it too, that it comes all the to the who has given Marko: Yeah. Tim: of to Juha. Juha has also that City was, example, 2009-2010, produced 195 million in a year, on one yard. They promised 37, three yards, Marko: Mm-hmm. Quite a good seat, Mm-hmm. Tim: and there were 195 million. Hoaja beala. Siti mõtla põtõk aeg, et okei, aisi on hapu, midagi põeks tegema, et me ei saa nimelt jätkata, ja siis tuleb hapii Etihad. Etihad tuleb välja, mõtla põtõk, noh, aga teeme sponsor leppingu, ja Siti selmi põtõk 10 aastase leppingu Etihadiga, kus läheb siis stadion, muutub Etihad stadioniks, ja ka nende peasponsor on etihad. And Etihad is paying an unexpected amount of 400 million euros. Right? Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: So, credit Now it's not a private money anymore, or it's sponsored after 10 years. So now we can use it, because the gap is still... Marko: Because the thing that was done is now balanced. Tim: Yeah, Marko: That this one, right? Who hasn't seen it Tim: Men are always in trouble, but the is always in Sometimes lose. Marko: it's an iconic moment in football. If you the whole thing to the then how did happen? Tim: Well, yeah, this way you can best use it, but I think that's why it's so difficult that things happen, because actually this moment is already temporary, and I remember when I Marko: Yeah. Tim: this game that it was just like, United ended the game, all the cheaters, they probably won, then it's time to move and everything goes back normal let's Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: Mm-hmm. So, I'm gonna go do an intro, then. Marko: Is that Timo Glock going very slowly? And Hamilton can be the last corner and then he beat the Opel and all Ferrari fans and mechanics what just happened? sad situation but just a little fun. Tim: And I'll say that who hasn't seen how the rally ended and how the rally was then definitely Marko: Yeah, yeah. Tim: watch And if you're or watching the rally in another language, definitely watch it lot comments. That was epic. Marko: Hehehehehe Tim: I'll start spoiling, but watch how Solberg and Evant decided which title ends up the I'll spoil so much that the was the point of 100 meters before the finish. Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: It was close to the gap, if remember correctly. Marko: Yep, Tim: But in 2013, the League also additional rules What clubs should be associated with. There would be a draw, how much you get. There is another five, you understand, but basically in the same way, you don't have to overcome and another game, but they said that 105 million Naila, three Hs, are same as they promise, but the process was different from UEFA. But logic is basically the same. So, 2013-14, Mancini's Lachkub. Marko: I ask a technical question. If Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: the rules are made by NiU FA or Premier League, how do they up Both them make for A-League Manchester City, so you can spend What the of Tim: In end, there few things that the prem or what the I remember what exactly it was. The estimates can be different. One thinks this way, the other thinks that way. It's a of interpretation and presentation. And the thing is that, in my opinion, Juhaifa is you but it's about being the Premier League. you can create additional standards or additional things. Right? Marko: Mm. Tim: So it's easier to combine things with premiums, because premiums add additional investment. It's basically a state investment and then some kind of city investment, it's still, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, So, Marko: Okay, okay. Bye. Tim: 2013 Mancini was released, and Fernandinho was by Navas Negredo. And at that time, a very big gap because 10 million was to China for its control and that time it was still quite large. Today it is actually normal comp that is being but that time was like unthinkable amount of that was then paid And the regulation that Prem issued was compliant So in the year 2011-2013, which was considered. City was no longer in the numbers that Prem to In fact, Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: was Also the numbers that UEFA And 2014, the first situation when UEFA came to the They made an audit and it that 24 % of what City has done has actually from its own pocket. It was Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: schematically done one person. But it was known to be Abu Dhabi. Not the prince, but the Marko: Shaggled. Tim: sheikh. UEFA measures 50 milliliters of Niel's traf. And says that now, there are only 21 players not 25, if I remember Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: In fact, are only 25 allowed to participate Then, Al Mubarak which is the city's I would more than million on the body. 50 best lawyers would dig the UF or and make deal if the money somewhere else. Isn't that very aggressive? He goes against it. And this is it stops. After this, 2014-2015 city, looking at the whole problem, decided that we could invest in the In 2014-2015, City 200 million Naila, and founded the City Football Academy. The youth were by Full Academy, all facilities, everything. And the same year, surprisingly, City showed the first use of 11 million Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: Naila. The period we just mentioned will be that City also won another award in 2013-2014 and one FA Caminuti shield. We actually have a big title let's we the Marko: No. Yeah. Tim: Premier League. Then comes the time of 2015-16. After the academy was we money. Well, 10 years. Marko: Yeah. Tim: Let's start with the time when Pep came, the Brains and Sterling bought the And 2016, Pep Corteola the new Man City coach, which was to be a puzzle in the whole game. There money, there was but wasn't about stability, wasn't about domination. So it assumed that Pep would be the dominate. And fact, it did. The following season, added Bernardo Silva, Stones, Kündergaard, Ederson, Leroy Sána and Kyle Walker. And the following season... Marko: quest Tim: All of And the next year, 2017-2018, was then the best-selling Premier League record. 100 points, title won, 32 wins, 106 losses. Well, everything done. And the time, record was also best-selling in the transfer market, because the City dollar used 328 million You remember that it 2017-2018, is not today. The dollar has not had these numbers I can't tell you but can tell you the netband. I I got here, but a lot of players got it. I can't tell you there were some additional articles or something that. But the way you mentioned it, it actually after the Academy got Because most the who sold it, they have sold their young talent. There was Sancho, was Palmer, who played in Telap. So that monetization started to slowly start grow. Marko: Mm. Tim: So, now we get to the first big starting point, November 2018. Rui Pinto, is the league's... Football Marko: Mr. Football Leaks, sorry, we don't have courses. Tim: League is one the biggest portals that is connected to every scheme and the of football. Marko: Mm. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Tim: And Rui Pinto is one of the most I don't remember if he's user or... He's one of the hackers who hacked the info out and then posted it. And then together with the magazine Der Spiegel, he posted in German media all the new work, how the city has then schemed all the e-mails, all the transactions he found are very large. material, threw it online, which made a lot of questions and like that WTF moment, like wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait Looking at it, City continued on the same line. Rodri Kansela. In 2019, Kodumaine Treble so everything in that sense. And 2020, UEFA decided give City % share of and put the account of 25 million euros. That was the big break that happened. I read yesterday that it didn't occur to that it happening. But it didn't occur to people because a few months before it happened, the world was to It was the time and it all Marko: Hmm, yeah Tim: in There were of but there were many more problems or things that happening that it was somehow a background. So, is appealing, now the bullies to City appealing, the party was two versus one, the committee three people who decided it, two versus one, decided that things weren't that crazy, rather, they were saying that They decided that all the emails and all the things that were being moved, had to... I don't know, they very quick to make a case on Right? They had to the And then they said, okay, let's do it way, you can still play the Euro series, you can't pay of 25 million euros, but 9 million euros. And well, everything is pretty okay. That's what I'm trying to I'll mention it at the press conference, how you can be... How can you be... How can think right here, but the time ask you what the penalty is? Are you guilty or not guilty? And why did I that it's like a It's also helpful info, but two people the were in Manchester City. And one was invested so much that they are... Legal Firm, Advocate Bureau, one owner. Advocate Bureau is an emirate or an advocate bureau, which represents emirate and very large brands that are also part of the Sheikha. So there were three people, two people were Semus and one person was their partner. The partner said no, and the two brothers said no. Marko: Mm. Okay. Tim: One and only Holland, Holland. Yeah. Marko: Do your thing Tim: September 2024, where 42 seats there was a very long time everyone to and in end, in September 2026, it to light, where they released the whole thing that was happening there. I like point that the same time, where everything happening, City won 1-2-3-4-5 in Premier League, right? So 18-19, 20-21, 21-22, 20-23. 2023-2024. You won the Continental Treble in 2022-2023. And 2023-2024 you won the Super Cup and the MMA which was the last old format. Now was changed to the first format, or the previous format, where you new format. So, and now we got here. So, Pep decided that he would leave the his mission is done. Pep actually one year labing, but he decided to leave now. Why? Well, he to leave Marko: I wanted to ask, what do you if you it in you have to 100 %? How much is it that he knows and goes away? Or is chance 100 Tim: Minautland Marko: that he knows 100 % and goes away? Tim: Yeah, yeah, yeah. it's it's a knee. Yeah, it's a knee. Now you in your face. It. father, who would, like, quit as we could see, we're not yet. Not the route. the demo side, we'll get poppy. So you're going to at the list. You're going Marko: could be. Tim: to the. Aga, know, a key. Rest, you're panning. So you're back at the Nelly September. And it's a last. you. Mads Leiter. It was at the bank. I'm fine. Well, miss. And the first teaser what to The next day, Ornstein, who is also writer, said that the has been considered the 144th issue. It will be tomorrow. The Minister said that we will comment There was a lot of panic. Rodri said to the conference that he part of the club, when he was asked that he doesn't believe there is anything wrong. Spokesman said that it is a provocative speculation, there is And Caldons, who mentioned first, said polite way that we are not guilty, we have changed we are not anything. the Between 2009 and... I'll other world in a moment. 2009 to 2018 was the period. And there's interesting thing that actually came of may not so much. The of the media are that some the reasons were actually for scamming and scheming, and some the were actually because City didn't have the ability to do it And they were with 30 Marko: This is. Tim: revisions. I your athletic podcast and there you talked about how Siti was so first case with UEFA and now Premier League that when asked for Siti made its own environment where it was possible to copy or download. You had to either write or draw and then print something. But basically, it was like, are your documents, we don't have write but we made things that might be uncomfortable for you, so you can't them normally and you that you done enough make it for to process and think that you something about it. And there, the investigation came out. The total amount is 2.2 billion in current time. If we go into the scheme, it's very simple. What happened was that City didn't need money, City found a sponsor, City's owner came to sponsor, said that the sponsor deal is 20 million. But let's make 100 and I'll you 80 on the one hand, and you'll make 100 million in the future Marko: Mm. Tim: and you'll the money And they were very small. They started in the 17th, but then were smaller, bigger. What is starting to is that a lot of these sponsors are actually overall also own sponsors. So it was one thing, another, and then the third one puts the money in, the final amount of money person collects, comes together as Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: another. well, fortunately, there were also reactions. The Sport Minister said that if you really respond, then you are like He take forward. He is convinced that if he doesn't want to Prime Minister, who was appointed to the office, said that he would be very sorry if the was destroyed. That he hopes that it will find a solution. Why is that? Because he has Manchester for many years. And that time, was by the same Manchester City Group owner and by Leping, 30-billion-dollar budget, which should as to infrastructure, improve its Marko: Hmm. Tim: city and so on and so on. So, really, when you start to go it is already built so deep in political sense that it just looks so easy when you start it all. And now a long question what is that is City presented an said rather confidently that it is all a lie. Last time we mentioned that why they could court, because fact there is no jurisdiction to go only five, how they can appeal, or how they can leave here, is if they can confirm that the Health Commission, all these 140 things that they thought were wrong, made false statements or something, the process was very wrong. Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: But it took four or six years to make it happen. And now they have and the thing is have come to the where we talk that it is no longer a football situation, or now it simply that whether the state opens more services to Premier League or FA, that they still die and give some kind of... Yes. Or then Marko: Yeah, now, the index is Tim: football wins. and then can get good traffic. So if you look at... Marko: And the should sort out their organization in the sense that they have their own interests in same 30 billion lepping is just like a hat or a hat and then the state can't do anything about It's healthy. Mm-hmm. Tim: The is, where I to get to is it's about what's the value, but how much the country should be neutral, the surveys Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: and where it all comes from. cruel thing right now is predict the points that we are going to deduct on So, we should look at it this, right now we're minus 100 points. Yeah, so I don't feel Lisa... Well, it's just an automatic relegation. It's basically an automatic relegation. They just that, okay, if the point of is the then it's 100. Okay, don't let me say that it's an automatic relegation. Let's put 100, which is still the same thing. Marko: Yeah. Tim: Another thing that should be said is if it goes as crazy as should, then it could also be a result of the Right? If the city is at Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: minus 100 and if they are in the Premier League, they have minus 100 and then they start again. Marko: So you can't a lot time with only when you get Tim: Yeah, the I just read loud is this is the that I recommend. Marko: It's interesting, I don't know what's worst thing about it. In theory, you get a lot of time in the can be too long, and then you get more more in It may seem easier to because you tempo in front of you're it but if you're you're it up, you're on the You can buy some games and then you go back to So this yo-yo Tim: I'm not a child's playboy, but if you the worst scenario, you'll with the owners and the players. The main idea is to the because they are necessarily Marko: Hmm. Tim: good owners, because they so much lied to and schemed. Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: The last thing that can crazy scenario is the title-taking. which has never happened before, it Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: could happen. The thing to be predicted is the 30-60 points of Still a big achievement, but the is least once from the Premier League. 100 million in profit, because 100 million in clubs have been well, it's not like money, because they haven't the titles. And addition, transfer ban. Marko: Who the money? UEFA and Premier League? I'm wondering who is the finalist, like Benefischer is there? it's like... winners are technically different clubs, who have left without or points, well, what's the Or are there any players who have bought some of scheme? The winners are different clubs, and if they decide on a certain FA or Premier League and you pay to their organizations, then is the worth it? Is my question. Tim: I don't think it's going to big deal because they still thinking about it. Or they are... I can't say. I haven't seen it. Yeah, yeah. Marko: I'm not sure if I enough to do this, but... Tim: Yeah, but... You should look It's a question, where does the final sum go, because if there are hundred million or two hundred million in the graph, then it's Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: the scheme, the organization itself, who Marko: Yeah. Tim: it in its own pocket. But yeah, and one thing that's very interesting, which I haven't heard before, is that Manchester City titles get a Tern. And Tern means... that the is not a newly made title. They don't start to it because then there chaos who got it, what to do They leave Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: the title, but the point is that the title has just been created. Marko: Yeah, I am. Tim: Right? And we transfer ban, that in the picture, it be taken from the three to four years, which would Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: then like ... And when the countries are their own will ... then I would assume that could be a thing that 10-20 million in profit, TING, so if we have to talk about else, then we will put transfer ban, but at moment it is simply warning. And the remain unachievable. So actually, I saw, when I this letter Eila, I saw that the support actually Turku was that the is in a The next day it probably, damn, or in the country it's very uncomfortable when the game is mess, maybe it's not that bad. And now we've to the point where we understand all the problems, we've come to the point where, damn, it's probably going to be okay for Marko: Hmm. Tim: Now... Marko: Yeah, it's very difficult situation, since it's such big event, there are so many participants and interesting people and organizations. I know. Tim: Yeah? Marko: As football fan, hope that City will be to appreciated as footballer. I think it shouldn't be too complicated to do something too crazy. I don't know what the choice should be. Should it mid-range, three scenarios, then Tim: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Marko: we talk it, or should it be a bit more I 75 % is right. I don't know. Tim: Yeah, well, I think it's good idea that if we think about it, then we should talk about it. We're the big picture of whether football can be left as it is, is, stand-up and its own, or it's all politics. But ultimately, if it's all politics and things that, let's about it. Why are we looking at football? If a rich friend pumps money, Then he says, I've the time, I'll it 20 millis, maybe the traffic. What's the point Then it's not interesting to watch it the Then you should watch some of Bundesliga, where father is watching, but the man is, the father is not there, the well, what is the minister's time? Marko: Damn. Tim: I'll end with a question. I went to this meeting, the meeting was so long that I didn't start greeting. Maybe I'll it on the internet for to see with their own eyes, there's everything. Marko: I'm here before you answer question. I would to you for your research and for your presentation. It me to listen to and think I hope the listener can appreciate it. Tim: I hope I can to calmly. I don't feel like I'm going too full of Marko: No, it's okay, think it's you present like, here's one fact, here's two here's three facts, it just gives it like some kind of a meat around I think it's very good, say it like... Pablo. Tim: But here are some numbers for asked how much was the cashier and how much cashier. The cashiers that I written out, from 2009 to 2010, this is the first cashier. The cashier was 4 million there and the scheme money, which was the property money, were still the requested bonds, but purely the property money went the it 27 million. So 4 was the cashier. 27 was schemed. The next year, 2012, was lot of and 41 was schemed. The next year, were 8 million and 70 million was schemed. 2016... Marko: Always a little bit more powerful Tim: And listen now, the 2016 to 2017, there 130 million in it and a lot of was zero. Marko: Mmm, can I get an arm? Tim: In 2017-2018, the when the investigation ended, quite a of 11 million and was scheduled was 146 million. So that was the numbers. Marko: Yeah, it's interesting what the future holds. Let's that the city is about badly damaged, because there many... You the state is the Emirates and everything else. But it's of the precedent, and what are the and what to next, how to monitor it. Tim: But look, Mark, you mentioned something important, the president. The president is yet here. Now this outcome is president's. And I think your Marko: No, yeah. Tim: question can be by the that how does it all work? Because if it works, then there is nothing to The main idea Marko: Hmm. Tim: is that they openly recognize that it quite clear where the money comes from and whether it scheming or not. If you to their answer. Marko: But you don't see the situation that the whole country is sorry we have too much fun in front of we some tapping stuff, so we are a bit an right but in the future it won't happen again, so we are now going to the rules. Tim: Well, might be, it might go in way, but in my opinion it's a completely absurd thing. Marko: Absolutely. I'm just trying to make some extra thoughts. All my questions are very difficult to Tim: And the interesting fact about that Mancini took two leppings One Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: was with Manchester City and the other was with Al Jazeera. If I remember correctly. have in my And the Emirati, or maybe the Arabian, don't know, somewhere around there. And the thing that the back door came out. Manchester City. Manchester City. Maxis, less salary than Maxis, Alcacira. But Macchini was probably the day or 24 hours Manchester City coach. Marko: Do you the sound of the press? No? it was exactly the as the double tapping part. Basically, I think that's my problem. It's their problem. I'm in Tim: But well, was really, and then when you started watching, then the cover came out that Algec Siiraga was usually in Manchester City four days In four days, he did something the world of 2.2 or 1.9 million things about working. Totally crazy, totally crazy. Marko: good skater I think. Yeah, it's like... Tim: Okay, I'm gonna bathe in that cameo sense. Marko: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tim: I'm just checking if I it. If someone wants to, they it. There are interesting things, but we've talked I think we'll other things. Marko: Maybe you find the channel below. Tim: Yeah. Marko: If you manage to please put there. I mentioned earlier what I the Erling Haaland. I don't have the over Breaking News in Football. It Haaland, which seemed to a machine. allegedly So basically, I paid for the hall, but again, somehow scheming, it paid back. Tim: Yeah, is, don't know, it's not confirmed, but Chelsea was for their packaging and someone was still there, whether Arsenal or was their packaging, but in the it was really taken, well now we know that it was really taken because Tom Paper said that City packed, what was 54 or what was the number, 51 Marko: We'll see you next time. Tim: million, and then Chelsea Arsenal were needed to pack 100, but still not so good, well now we know why it's so good. Marko: Mm-hmm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Yeah, yeah. Tim: Yeah, it's still... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't be like Siti. At the time, they think right now, then maybe be like Siti. I don't know what to recommend But yeah, it's nice. Marko: Yeah, I think it's of a shock where we live and see what the decisions and solutions are. And maybe Sitti really understands that, look, I don't know. Well, I never knew. I don't believe in that but I always to leave some of room for the most unknown scenario to happen. Tim: Yeah. Fun fact, the thing I learned is that the panel that made this analysis and who was to so speak, three people that Murray Rosen measured the three people and surprisingly, now there surprisingly, is Murray Rosen himself, actually. very crazy Arsenal fan, aggressive Arsenal fan. Marko: Hmm. Tim: So these are the reasons why it still on why they these 114 things. may also because Mürrey was still very, very motivated to Marko: you Tim: show that they were happy, because Arsenal has been able show that Arsenal and Liverpool have won 200 million euros because they don't necessarily have to without So that's the Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: other side, which is also interesting. now the appeal board consists of three people, and there we must have one from the lords or my point so now it's higher. But yeah, Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: anyway, that's is, and I think we'll end here on this topic. Marko: I drink amethyclol tea on That's why. Maybe in the next episode, Tim: Yeah. Yeah. It's nice. It's nice. It's nice. Marko: first 50 minutes, we'll take it Who knows. Tim: I don't anything. Marko: I don't want to another 6-7 hours again. Sorry, can't spend Just to refresh and Tim: Good luck to them. Marko: go even deeper into the abyss. Yeah, absolutely. I'm very impressed that you composed this And without... Usually, it's as something visual, but it was currently free and it was very well composed. chapeau, basically. Tim: Well, maybe next time. So, let's move on. Too much ball. Marko: Yeah, one more thing that I noticed the I put some small, short Tim: we'll be back with that. Marko: notes Tim: Lamin and Malle, beautiful words. Marko: That's in my agenda. Tim: Neh, that's of a white trache. You lose at the right time. Zidane and Chelsea Boys scored a 7th goal. Morgan Rogers. Zidane's mother jumped. It wasn't like that. Then when Lisa Marko: I don't know anything, I'm not sure. I don't know anything. Tim: came out to in some 88th minute and 89th, it was 1-0 in of Then Zidane ran out the field, the ball went away and then jumped. Marko: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Tim: And wait what did they? Marko: So what is worth looking First all, with in Portugal. I'm not talking him he had to tell us what he was lied to, what happened or why he left. But he bit the situation. When the is bigger, it's the sound and so on. And there some clips where the went through and Portugal won, and Ronaldo reacted. He just the and hung himself in the tunnel. Let's what else. People talked little. Tim: One my of friends, had to give me my rent. I Instagram that a friend of had me his rent and then I said, let's Ronaldo. Then I saw that he was somehow so triggered that I wrote him long message, like, what are we doing? My brother is just like a full artist right now. It shouldn't be that. You play in for the first time at coach promised to let me out for half an hour, but he didn't let me. Now I'm going sign and I'm going to leave, my career is everything. Like, who the fuck are you? You're so legendary. Let's that status and end it positive note. Like, why are you still writing And I to him in the comments, but he just put a thumbs up on it and left. Rental is short. Marko: Yeah, well, least you got the answers you Tim: Yeah. Marko: a little fragment was an and Spanish-speaking game where maybe some bit expected, but in real Madrid, there are in maybe the best results are just some random people. And then they out how the studio was and Kuku Reija was together and then they were playing to each other. different things and Bellingham said to Kuku Reija, well, definitely there's emotion behind it But you talk too much and then they started speculating that Real Madrid's series room is all bad and Well, again, a coffee break, but God knows, maybe there's some drama in Tim: See them I tell, cause it's banklip. Marko: Spanish won 3-2, I think the best player there, Lamine was the best player, nothing else. So I think would there. Tim: All good. Marko: One thing that a bit... I haven't been to finish it but I some clips from Messi. When we one code, and another code as There a clip where Messi was... not a game in external state, but the ball was already bit the and like quite easily, the ball went in in and then there was some kind of between that some thought that it generated some thought that it was real and then there was like a war the players and Tim: the intermega then? Marko: the was about one of these games, maybe the last last Tim: I'm a reninth. Marko: one already, I'll see that I finally understand that there was one point where Messi like I'm you, what do if the score is the kind of that he thinks scientifically, that it's some a laminate and a that he needs to be so that he doesn't get games and then I'll give him a card, like, Do you one thing happens to the score? I'll you a joke. Tim: I don't know if it's but I think these things happen. Because from my own experience, I think that when Hazard played in they the time. Because he so much on feet that he came the left better and to Estonia. I think there was a time when he closed his eyes but if it's a corner and the same player it the time, have to protect him. he just gets the statistics ten times more than any other player outside. So I think Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: they're still doing it a little bit, but the that it's a yellow one then it's like, I don't know. Marko: Yeah, like, what, like, so-called football fans, when they come out how to express or guess that the players do it with name or mind, that they start to beat or give, or give to someone else as or someone as a gift. I honestly that, it definitely happens, as you mentioned, but I feel like it's somehow more underground, that they think about it right? But somehow, well, kind of thought, somewhere in the backgound or somewhere in subconscious, as we call them. Tim: I don't know exactly it is, but... I think it's important than you the big picture, some people probably do but I would say that there problem now. Marko: Yeah. I don't Tim: But ask you the opposite, don't think they should do it? Because most players get more fun Don't you think it's okay Marko: Hmm. Tim: that they protect the players? Marko: I would like say yes, but on hand, the law enforcement officer in says that it is not so bad that the other club or country that you should play with, like Chelsea or Hazard, will against Manchester United. And since Hazard is so good, Manchester United will it a golden so is not bad. Because the is so good and it should be I don't know. Tim: Well, Manchester, so it's good start. Are you serious? No? Marko: And Missial Start Tim: Uhhhh Marko: will start now. Tim: But that's the moment, right? I know that Manu and Tottenham are playing now. Marko: Manchester City next game. And Tim: Mm-hmm. But you think is happening with City? I think we go into but do you it's happening so much that it's to or do you that the is not allowed to be and delivered? Marko: I think that is future Paris. It's a difficult game If they can make good games it's a hope. I think the champions are there. If they perform well in they win the title. They can rally the troops. Let's go, team! Tim: But that would be nice. If the state allows it, least the football clubs themselves do. Marko: Wow, wow, that's good. I'm on It's Tim: And now we're the train down to Ljubljana, Marko: exactly the main let's go, we got it done. I'll a over, but I don't such good presentation two people, you. We'll just the last one, Malaysia, no, excuse me, Bahrain, Malaysia. We'll it through start with one thought. then there will be three things and we'll to episode. First of was so much fun to drive that the language happened absolutely everything Tim: nose nose Marko: and I got there with my thoughts that it is exactly like a muster to show that F1 is a polarized sport, would say that those who watch these things are very fans and watch everyone drive like well, mostly less. And the aspect is that those who say that cars are driving on the track, wow, they driving on the same curve, same way, I'm completely convinced. And I think it's very important to this point, where and what point you get to it first time and what of it be. Or maybe you're at the drive through the first, which is very well done. that Tim: No, I can say that, but let's stop for a moment. Populist. Yeah, news. Marko: I think one of in GEP year. don't remember but it very lucky ride. I'm sure people put out some safety gear and stuff that. It's like, wow, what's going on here? It's amazing. But the time, if first time what it was like for The time we rode in and in the Hanera, I threw something in the The experience is so different and I think that's where the very polarized people's opinion from. Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: If you are one of those people who thinks about F1 so easily, I would like to you watch this Malay driving. And then we'll again and see what your opinion is. Tim: Bangers. I'm so good. I'm not a man. Not in the world. Kimi. I'm the link. I'm a in the world. Kimi. So Marko: Yeah, let's take some the main points through. First of all, was that... sorry, those three things I had back to. First of all, we talked in and made a bet. Will Aston Martin come to the end of so that they can't round of the head? Bam, you soon. And Aston Martin did his own... Alonso did Aston Martin's best spot. It was 9th, think. Even 8th. Big... Have we had last races this year? Burn! Came! And I think there was no... no, wasn't any. I was controlling myself, I actively thought about my own... Tim: I forgot to watch it. Marko: Well, I don't so. But in end we got it. Fun! And the third thing is that I asked you that... Ega doesn't think Max vs. Tappen is back. and well, you see now how he is relatively well driven here, ok, well, last time he was not dominated, this time he relatively well and it was that the fastest man on hmm, prophet Marko question mark, maybe, Tim: The Huymark. Marko: a let's go, so First of we a and as always, F1 full tires are the most used tires in the if you know people use them, as we all do. So it's crazy, even crazier and unnecessary thing is F1 full tires that you should use, because everyone has to be super, super excited. And so with that Malaisia GP, the Vamatus Bahriini GP, what's the in Malaisia? 40 minutes before the of the race. Then one safety ring the car start to run. Then, after the new cars, they all Very few of them. Mostly with a Ferrari engine. But who knows what context. At this year, were new regulations. Cars were much more electric. It has its own problems in the F1. And now first time, last ride and the cars just out of And if so, the new regulations have a lot of criticism, then it has created another one, like a furore in whole world. What we talking about? It's like a new happy place for these engines and new regulations. What are we to in Please take these old V8 engines back, let's make in Tim: But this point, my exclusive insider, whom I mentioned in the previous part, Misha, said that Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: was a final product, it was a FIA software bug. What Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: caused it? What's going on? It's not a blackmail, it's some kind FIA-balled software that they have to use on a scale when the media thinks about what they're there and this bug was... But I was 100 % convinced that it was very funny to how he was getting on I was already when he started Marko: Yeah Tim: to the towel down I thought he was Marko: Yeah. Tim: Well, in he was in trouble, but he came back. But yeah, very funny to Marko: And then there was a situation that the first safety ring was safety car. You see how the are now. It said that the back of is still wet and then addition to that, tire is probably not a 4-5 car. Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: The car does run, the brakes stop, the control unit is working, the car starts again. But then the situation happened that the whole rear... the safety car was me and Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: then the next car came and the next car came and the cars were standing in of and the line was completely like a mini safety car, the cars were and then you were with the like F1 car, F1 car, F1 car, safety car, F1 car, F1 car, F1 car and then you see the car and me what you were doing, a nightmare Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: and eventually some cars had driven a different size of the behind the safety car so eventually the front axle was and then it driven like that next Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: thing, tire choice I brought 47 there, some are more rain because there a few circles and the track is completely dry and the cars are protected from the tires and Tim: Yeah, got that. Marko: the big part is the dry tire the big part is the wet tire and you for ride, you to the standing start and the track is more wet than you It was interesting to Martin Brand, who is the F1 Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: Giganes commentator, he said that he would have wrong choice. He would have a slick, looked at the track and hoped that he have taken a good last E. Tim: But think that there was a situation before the basic start that some people who made the new formation through slicks decided to start from the pit and put their intermediate. But some Marko: Yeah. Tim: people decided that Davai would make and went to slicks. One of them was Hamilton. 42 seconds, I remembered that. Marko: So in 5th 6th round, Hamilton started second and Leclerc started fourth, they 17th and the one was 54 seconds down, so it a minute 14th down. And I'm Ferrari fan, so I'm hoping that this clown will never end up like this. Very rough, so Leclerc came box, McLaren came in box I'm gonna be a story box. You'll do a lot of things. But Lübe Samuelsson is still on his red tire. Because it's not that we're trying it, we're just trying it. Tim: But he hand, again, Ferrari wanted to him in and he said who's driving, what's point of so we use it but again the Marko: Yeah, just just just. Tim: men's decision was, my opinion, Marko: Yeah, basically. So, you are happy to stay out, you are ready to continue, then you So, the Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: condition is that the team has to listen and the driver, that he is on the and knows how much you care about And Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: everyone is aware that. And one thing I would to If you are a listener and viewer, you haven't the We made an intro about what happened. There were a lot of things that are worth So be good. If you haven't watched it, if you don't know what F1 then do it. It's the best ride where F1 helps you watch it. But I'll continue to all the details about what happened there. The only positive thing that is worth mentioning is me. The is that at Ferrari made such an American mountain, started high, fell completely to and somehow managed to come the third and fourth place Here, I you, what do you think, if Lewis had started with the tire and you saw that how bad a would it on the restap, and you said that would have started badly What would have to do? Was the on Tim: I think he on I don't know if he Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: would come but look at how He was with one of the tires. He was hurry when he the medium. He was a hurry Marko: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Tim: not drive, but he was always at a of round of and never tried. Even such a tire, was fast and when he soft down, then he started to fly again. Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: I don't know if he would won or not, because he was very strong in this race. Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: But I'm very sorry that we didn't see Lewis vs. Well, the because all the languages weren't there. Paul, the place, the good. I'm sorry. Lewis finally trying to positive, but you saw that his was still found. He knew that there was this possibility and the moved. More level 7, but not many. Marko: Yeah, I was very positively surprised that Ferrari wasn't so fast. I looked at the teams and there was a thing that there could have been double podium if Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: not more. So the didn't seem so fast, because Stappen Tim: Mhm. Marko: was very fast in his own world, but Lewis could have been able to him the competition would have been over. I think that Lerk could have been the second or third fastest rider and it Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: would have how he Merse. I think that Liuvi's victory or not would have been strategy to finally decide who would Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: have better and better equipped with their own pit and stuff. There was a Tim: You know, like to say that the Hatchar a very, very powerful car to drive. It's Marko: Yum. Tim: surprising that there time, or at least no one has ever seen a can handle the speed at than the Stappen. And I think this driver was great again. He ended up the but I think the healthy driver was as good as this driver. He had a good managed to a team game, he only a times in F200 the career, he me every time and non-stop. Marko: that was... That F2 Hadjar... I have a dream of... If it versus Tappen, it would be very unpleasant for to because he was in the corner the corner. And I it's very good But it Hadjar in F2. Tim: Hmm. Marko: Sorry, I forgot. Tim: It's good to see that someone can deliver or least deliver or hold. And why is Because it's still good when there's someone who can strategically a man's game. So I think it's good if you're driving alone. don't know if it's Lawson or anyone else. Marko: Gasly and Albon and Peeres and everyone who has been it. And Yu-Gi. Tim: Who was the last one in Japan? Juki. I think very difficult to if you're the only one versus teams. Now there's a situation where you can't a team. That's good to Marko: Yeah. I don't take anything from him, but the price is still high. Tim: But much. Don't Marko: Miss- Tim: too much money, but don't give What Marko: Yeah, just just just. Tim: I to I brought here Sabastikinni to what did you Max? I have him most of the time when Max has driven, that he has me and I think he was Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: a very unpleasant person. But you know, two, three years... I have been Marko: Well, but I'm yeah Tim: so much respect the people that there is and especially when look at how much of a are, it is somehow a great belief to deliver every situation. Okay, you can't win, but you are always a completely Marko: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Tim: broken car. You can always be competitor and always talk about and always choose to win. Where I got to that, that absolutely, if we the Hagerit versus the Tappen, then not in comparison to And that's also why I to appreciate I appreciate him Marko: Heemdomacheva. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, fair. Tim: being in the sport. if you don't Marko: Just just just just Tim: have then would be very sad and sad. And that's Marko: Mm. Tim: it's very, very, very nice. Marko: Yeah, for too, in every way, is a deep humiliation and myth. For me, it's very impressive in Estonian. It's very... Tim: Mulet to Valdav. Marko: It's impressive, very good driver. What's so special is how little he does I am not sure if he is in a or he the first night or he is in hurry and does go. I think that Leclerc is one of the fastest riders, but he has the problem that he goes and makes mistakes. again, gives the restappers the same attitude again. Yes, I have favorite name but it is useful. has changed or become a person. And if you hard and you can things are much better and shouldn't be But anyway, I'm a lot of respect to Max. And the statistics that came with the bank, Michael Schumacher got 72 wins, with Ferrari, for sure. And Max Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: is getting the same amount. For me, Schumacher has been the the Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: I'm not big fan of him, him. Unbelievable. I won't take any from him. Tim: And you know who can still continue to their crimes? Marko: Hamilton. Tim: Tim Vaino. Marko: Yeah, that's cool. But exactly between these two, if you... I would say, mother and son, one technical flaw, then you game or you're back in the game. We don't a personal connection to There was also a point you could or maybe not exactly, I remember. Tim: I think it's a note. Marko: Yeah, I'll just that if anyone has a new idea, then we have a deal Just like we the beginning of we the with Hamilton and the Ferrari. Tim said that Hamilton will the game with a clear. Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: I won the game and then at that season, I don't remember what it was, what we ended with, three or four runs behind. We the same deal, but I the biggest risk because the clerk was 20-30 points down. So we have new deal between us. Again, Sergi. Tim: And now... Yeah, but you I you should try it out. Well, I I need to compliment them. But Hamilton 214 and Leclerc 191. what does make? 23 points? No, 23 points. Marko: Mm-hmm. Just go ahead. Mm-hmm. Tim: And Verstappen is a bit like a game. Norris has 428 points and Verstappen has 588 points. Verstappen Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: well, surprisingly, something big, I think... Why not the second position? Marko: Yeah, course. It would be very for George Russell, who was the stage, to create such a feeling, at the end of the he had a certain hope and confidence in him. With this race, if Big sad, big sad, we are so happy. But if he didn't know that he still to some kind of hope. then he opened a new hope for what left behind. You got points Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: that. A 3-4 round N-rub was the car mechanic. Kimi Antonelli did exactly what one the titles does. He takes from the body. How much is Tim: Maximum. Marko: The maximum So I much as I need. And I would like for competition. Tim: Yeah, I had a stupid idea that I didn't take because Max still won. Then you a fight here on the T-Rex. But the F1 continues at this point. I don't have to wait for the next set. Marko: Yeah. And is it now every month there, let's the context, knows, it's not a course, then at the beginning of there should have been a long drive to the place, basically, Tim: Yeah. Marko: it have been in Bahrain and somewhere else and since was a situation, then the makers said no, no, don't want to take kind of driving was left behind and now then afterwards they will the same GP's, Grand Prix's, but in different locations. So Bahrain was behind and Bahrain took the Pank drove to Bahrain. So this is the situation now. Tim: I'm going to go sleep now. See you Marko: So you don't know exactly how I know. But at Tim: idea Marko: least we know that these topics are one thing. Tim: Wait, let me tell an interesting fact for I check it Marko: Logical control. At same time, I thought that you the hijackers who have very nice rides. I am surprisingly by this good time. I will put it English again. Surprised, yes? I'm not by this. Tim: Surprised? No. I'm surprised. Marko: No. It's like I... I my eyes opened. Yes. Was it? Tim: Same word, you asked before, I thought you able to guess it, so we we it Marko: I'm too English. But one the who is the one who joined F1 and Limblat. Tim: Lindblad. Marko: He made very good drive and was very stable. He done anything very cheap. He's somewhere there or thereabouts. And you imagine that he's the first season and... I don't Tim: Mola Kermete. Marko: you but... Tim: Yeah, I am. Marko: I don't want to extra attention to the guys who don't like Tim: I think he already about own thing, when he wanted to a red bull, when he there, he said, I need one of and I'll myself in that role, I'll show you how it goes. Marko: Hmm. Tim: And he's that role But in this race, F1 can be seen in Singapore and not only one race, but two races, because it's a sprint race. Marko: sprinting, yeah. Tim: So now the race looks like this. on and Sunday and Sunday I know that at 3pm is a I can't say but we should have the Marko: I thought that I should make a Watch Along for Tim: We we are not really experts, but we can try. We just need to go through the Marko: Yeah, yeah. Tim: rules, what is possible and what not. Marko: I don't have show you how I Tim: But the price tag can be bought or not. Marko: don't know I'm not sure Tim: and the button. Marko: I've seen how one good podcast and two good kutti who make F1 content is Matty P1 Tomi some channel who make wacholong and I watch them and it's pretty much over or Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: I should try it too this thought maybe live on YouTube and Tim: Mhm. You try. Why not? Why not? Why not? Marko: maybe it's fun. So, do we have anything else from F1 Ferrari? little bit it, again, the track was something that Ferrari. Ferrari was also when the graphics were released, where the Versatappen faster, where the Hamilton was then the Versatappen was the corners and all the curves were the Hamilton. Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: Ferrari is very fast and now comes Malaysia which is today's round track and there are very there. Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: a round track where qualification is very important, I think the track should suit Ferrari. And if they can succeed in qualification, then as Ferrari fan I would like to that there is a difference here. Maybe, someone higher. Tim: I hope Kimi wins. I hope Russell wins and that by end of the Kimi should to form a title when mathematics is in the Marko: Yeah, thing in Singapore, I think it's round or so, so it can happen. So, would to Mützi to the stage. I'm very sorry that this not the time for the F1 calendar. But now I hope that Lodis president, we have the word, that he would think that every time he something like a game and driving is so enjoyable that he would probably bring it back. However, is definitely a question than one, so see what happens it. Tim: But the and the repair had to very You know if you've Marko: Okay, have a good one. Tim: it around it wasn't so much lately, or why, Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: but the reddit was very fast, people were from there were terrorists how to get and there were also it wasn't so smooth sailing. The track was really Marko: Mm. Tim: very tough, but inevitably the repair wasn't quite what you F1. Marko: Stay with us dudes. Tim: Hmm... No. I don't know, I haven't thought about it. What's definitely bothering me is the graphics. Now show less seconds on What's me is that they more the overall gap between cars. Who stays in the first place. I think it's a point statistic to show but they show it lot. Some drone shots have been a bit a But generally, I don't know. It's a very surprising question. I haven't thought about it yet. Marko: Okay, I just thought that you might be a bit different from I'm not the only one. I've seen so frustration on Twitter, but also the F1 circles. What do the directors If you're F1 fan, you want to how cars drive together, Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: an action. And the interesting thing is that you see this the timing table. that there are some friends who 0.01 seconds from each other on or quickly quickly run into each other and then the director shows like what, the third place you drive takes you like a minute and then you see how the places are still exchanged on that live timing table, then like please show me a real driver, not some kind of friend who just doesn't know. So like And there was a meme about biggest one was in Monaco. a of where you could jump like... Well, jump times. But was one event where there an action. And someone starts to and then... Cut! And someone is in And Tim: Yeah. Marko: they were also very angry this. and because of I always more emphasis on what the directors do in general. I would to the points on and hopefully concentrate more on the than on the PR. Tim: Maybe they will to and get a signal and then things will get better Marko: 100 % Estonian and now next time everyone is properly introduced Tim: The seventh time we about the you the place, the last place, maybe right now, maybe there is some kind superpower. Marko: prophet marco Tim: Hyver. Marko: I think we covered went through all the themes that I had say. So if you Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: have any more thoughts or ideas, then we a break here and with Marker. And today's episode is still warm. Tim: Let's I mentioned before that now it's interesting, there's a big, big boxing match between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua. I don't Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: know how many these sports are there, but these are Marko: Sebasporti... not very good. Tim: the two Marko: What's next? Tim: most famous and successful heavyweight of heavyweight world. who came from English, Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: Anthony Jojo and Tyson Fury. Both them were very big hurrays, going against the generation. You got the then you said that the are not new. Marko: Is this Usik, who the interview, I'm very feel? This guy, right? That's cool. Tim: Yes, yes, yes. Don't push the horses. Don't push the horses. And then I said to the guys, if it's a draw, then you'll each other and get new one. Both them have twice. And now, this fight, between biggest British heavyweight fight, which actually could have five years ago, when they were their prime. Marko: Mm-hmm. Tim: But now, least... is happening and Marko: Bye bye. Tim: there are a lot of... and there a lot of... what hidden, is happening in US, not in the But it's going well. There are a lot of dramas. Dana White is in the company, because she is one the co-promoters. And Aidy Hearn, who is AJ, Anthony Joshua's promoter, they are also the But why am mentioning The press conferences now the content is to The first press conference was incredibly busy, so I don't want to it, there's to bring But since I've been waiting this fight for time, I next time I'll to talk more about the time and the opponent's position and why it's so important and how one person is different and how the other person is different. No joke, no joke, no joke, no no joke, no But yeah, I think we this burden. If someone is finally out us, then subscribe to the YouTube bank, like the videos, maybe we'll through this much bigger value for And thank you for listening. We will try to better every We hope that we will some kind of or image Thank you for Marko. Let's Marko: ReactiG Tim: Mm-hmm. Marko: does it. Every kind thing is recorded, so my suggestion is here. Tim: Or now, comment below, it's more fractionate. Marko is stupid, he doesn't anything. Okay, Marko: I'm the Celeste. Tim: let's here. Marko: Yes.