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NYC mayor-elect, aka as “Sugar Daddy Mamdani” · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  I'm your host, Mayor Deb.
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  Joining me today is a guest that you're probably familiar with.
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  He's been on my show a few times, author and America Out Loud Contributor, Michael McCarthy.
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  And I asked Mike to join me today because, as usual, the articles that he submits for America Out Loud really catch my attention.
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  And the article that we're going to be discussing today is titled, What if Memdani Had a Hammer?
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  And if you can remember, there was a song in the 1960s that was made famous by a group called the Weavers.
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  And it, you know, basically said, if I had a hammer, I'd hammer in the morning.
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  I don't have much of a singing voice, so I'm not going to even attempt to go further than that.
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  But before I bring Mike in, I wanted to just uh talk a little bit about some facts about New York City mayor-elect Zoran Memdani.
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  Uh, Mr.
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  Memdani is New York City's youngest mayor in more than 100 years.
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  He is the first Muslim South Asian and African-born person to hold that office.
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  He will be New York City's 11th mayor when he is sworn in on January 1st of 2026.
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  Currently, uh Mr.
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  Mamdani serves as an assemblyman in uh New York State Assembly.
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  And he is 34 years old.
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  So that just kind of sets a little background about who he is.
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  Uh many of you are probably familiar with it.
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  I I will say that I think that this uh New York City mayor's election was one of the most watched elections in the country.
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  And uh it was watched for many reasons.
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  Uh, and uh sure we'll touch on some of those reasons today when we talk about Mike's article.
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  So without any further delay, Mike, thank you so much for joining me today.
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  And thank you for inviting me, Mayor Deb.
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  Well, you know, I really uh, you know, I'm gonna jump right into your article.
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  Uh, and the opening line of your article really um is is loaded with uh a lot to talk about.
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  You wrote now that the openly socialist communist Zoran Mamdani is the mayor-elect of New York City.
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  We can expect to see the big apple transformed into utopia, low rents controlled by the big M, free bus service driven by the big M, and low grocery prices at the big M city-owned deli.
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  Uh obviously you're being sarcastic uh in what you write in that opening paragraph.
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  But there seems to be um many people who uh believe those campaign promises that he made, and as such went ahead and voted for him on election day.
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  Uh where, you know, where is all this going with New York City, in your opinion?
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  Will we see the big apple become a utopia?
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  Well, um, with respect to the word utopia, that was the name of a book written and during the reign of Henry VIII by Sir Thomas Moore.
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  He wrote it and called it utopia.
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  But the Greek word utopia means literally nowhere or no place.
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  So it's a it's a metaphor for the perfect society, but in reality, that can't exist.
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  There's always imperfections.
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  So, as usual, those who promise something for nothing, as Mr.
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  Mandami did, uh the sugar daddy.
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  They're the hero.
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  He's Santa Claus.
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  He's gonna throw out all the gifts, uh, free groceries in the store, free bus rides, uh, lower rents, uh, you name it, you got it.
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  Um, but where does all that stuff come from?
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  That's another article I promised myself I'd write one day.
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  Where does stuff come from?
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  It doesn't just magically appear uh out of nowhere.
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  Uh whether it's consumer goods such as groceries, whether it's uh computers, whether it's iPhones, whether it's uh furniture, they all come from factories and engineers and entrepreneurs who have this idea for how to create this.
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  Even something as simple as um uh chicken and eggs.
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  I mean, there are places that produce these.
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  They don't come out of magically out of nowhere.
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  Um extremely complicated uh chain of logistics to get uh a simple thing like an egg into New York City, where very few people have chickens in their backyards.
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  So he ignores the production side of the equation.
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  He's only concentrating on the giving out side of the equation or the distribution side of the equation.
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  Uh so that's where I think it's gonna eventually um run out.
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  Okay, and it's interesting that you use the term sugar daddy.
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  Um here we are on uh political talk show, and we're we're talking about sugar daddies.
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  We're gonna go there.
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  Um, because I when I look at the voter base that I primarily voted for Memdani, it was definitely a younger voting population.
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  And there's been a lot that has been written about this particular election where these young people had these hopes, uh, ideas, thoughts of the American dream.
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  Uh, for example, let me focus on buying a house.
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  And for many of those young people, the housing market is such today that it is very difficult to purchase a first home for many of them.
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  So I can I can understand where what they perceived life to be like after they went ahead and sought higher education, graduated from college, now hold a degree, perhaps looking to buy their first home.
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  Uh that has fallen short, that dream.
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  So then on to the scene now, we get this uh young charismatic Zora Memdani, and he's promising all of these, you know, bright, shiny things uh to magically appear.
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  And it is a bit of a sugar daddy scenario.
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  Yeah, and uh of course the the other definition of the word sugar daddy is that this is uh a young woman would look for a sugar daddy, meaning who take care of all of her needs, be the rich husband, and she won't ever have to work for a living.
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  She can just go out with an unlimited credit cards and buy whatever she wants.
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  Well, these are the voters are acting like they're gonna they're gonna marry Mondami.
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  He's the sugar daddy, he's gonna give them whatever they need.
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  Uh, and they're gonna quickly find out that um, you know, within a matter of uh a year or two, that it the stuff he promises has got to come from somewhere.
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  And as I pointed out in my article, there are already an estimated 50,000 empty apartments in New York City.
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  He promised lower right.
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  Well, saying, oh, it's too hard to find uh uh an apartment, they're not being built.
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  They're already there.
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  Why are they empty?
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  It's because of his proposed policy has already been tried, rent control.
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  And when the rents are lower than the maintenance costs, the landlords abandon the apartments.
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  They say, that's gonna cost me more to renovate this apartment and bring it up to the current plumbing code or electrical code or what have you.
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  Then I'm going to take in in the rent, so I'm gonna lose money on this.
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  I can't lose money forever.
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  I myself will go bankrupt.
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  Then I'll be on the welfare roles.
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  Therefore, they just abandon the apartment.
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  They just let it sit empty.
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  They don't advertise it.
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  It's not on any rental markets, whether newspaper or or online sources or what have you.
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  They're just sitting there rotting away.
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  So we've already seen the results of this type of socialist thinking with empty apartments.
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  And he comes along and says, Oh, well, I'll get you, I'll solve that problem.
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  Well, the policies he's advocating have already created that problem.
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  Yeah, it what he's uh really saying is, you know, one of those um, you know, phrases that we've all heard.
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  If something sounds too good to be true, uh, it probably is, right?
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  And uh I think that that is going to be uh a wake-up moment when all of these young voters and they were primarily young women, which you know, I'm gonna tie back into this sugar daddy scenario with Mamdani, uh, when they wake up and find that, you know, there aren't uh it's not gonna really be possible for you know the rent control to be successful, the government-owned grocery stores.
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  Uh those things are really they sound ideal and you know, perhaps in a perfect world, um, they would work, but I just don't see him having much success once he's you know uh you know sworn in on January 1st.
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  He'll probably have some short-term success until the money runs out and the supply of existing apartments runs out, and then he's either got to start renovating these empty ones, which is why I want to see Mr.
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  Mondami himself take up a hammer and swing it and get out there and get on one of these crews that renovate like the habitat people do, renovate uh apartments or do repairs.
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  Um because that's where the supply comes from human ingenuity, human labor.
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  And so far, he hasn't offered the labor side of the equation.
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  He's only offered the goodies side of the equation, the finished product.
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  Yeah, all right.
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  Well, I don't think we're going to see the big M uh swinging a hammer anytime soon and uh in New York City.
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  So Mike, I I want to jump right in and pick up where we left off and talking about this idea of utopia.
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  But I want to take it a step further because uh I feel as though New York State is really the testing grounds for uh many political ideologies.
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  And being that New York City is such a well-known entity, not only in the United States but throughout the world.
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  Um, I'm wondering if this is going to be a scenario that you referenced in your article when you talked about one bad apple spoiling the whole barrel.
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  Uh if we see, you know, for instance, if we see New York City really leaning towards this political ideology of socialism.
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  Is it possible then that like a cancer spreads, would we see socialism then spreading throughout our nation?
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  What are what are your thoughts on that?
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  Well, it's certainly possible because if people only look at the initial results, or maybe maybe there are um some lower food prices, maybe there are uh free bus rides and so forth, and everybody says, oh wow, sounds good to me.
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  Freebies who doesn't like free stuff.
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  So I'll have some of that.
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  So it could spread to other cities.
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  Of course, we already know that most large cities today are already on the socialist end of that with a lot of social services.
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  Most large cities tend to turn blue because that's where people go who want um social services and the handouts, as of course we've seen in the recent government shutdown scenario with those so-called SNAP benefits.
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  It's another forward of freebie.
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  And then we saw how there's a lot of corruption in that.
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  Uh, and we saw recently how there's a lot of corruption up in Minnesota with some of the benefits that were being given to the wrong people and even sent to terrorists back in Somalia.
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  So, yes, initially people may see that say, hey, that seems like the way to go, because they don't go to the long term of it uh and see what happens eventually.
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  Now, Venezuela is the Western Hemisphere's uh classic case behind Cuba of the bad results of socialism.
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  Venezuela was one of the richest oil-rich countries in the Western hemisphere, even above and beyond the United States per capita.
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  They had it.
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  Then when Hugo Chavez took over and said, I'm gonna do it as a socialist thing, um, and give free groceries to everybody and uh goodies and so forth.
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  Um, it didn't last very long because he only knew how to give out, he didn't know how to produce.
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  And of course, as you and I know, any piece of machinery, whether it's our washing machine or our refrigerator or whatever, eventually the parts wear out.
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  They need to either be repaired, replaced, or the whole thing replaced.
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  Well, the uh pumps in the oil fields of Venezuela eventually started the parts started wearing out, and so they shut down, and all of the skilled workers who had the knowledge in their head, the petroleum engineers, the pumping engineers who knew how to replace and repair these things, had left the country because they weren't going to be compensated for their knowledge and skill any more than a laborer in the field who's planting uh beans.
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  So there was nobody to repair this, and so the amount of production shrank and shrank and shrank.
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  There was less and less money.
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  Um a writer I admired for many years.
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  Uh her name was Mary Anastasia O'Grady, who would write in the Wall Street Journal.
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  She followed the story of Venezuela from the first takeover of the socialists.
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  Excuse me, and and trace the decline of it.
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  So here you have a country that's got great riches with oil.
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  Oil.
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  They're sitting on a fortune in oil, and yet after a while, they couldn't even feed their own people.
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  They that when Chavez took over, they were self-sufficient in food.
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  And then within a matter of a few short years, they were importing all their food.
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  Why?
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  Because people thought, why work?
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  Why should I go out and plant beans or pull weeds or do harvesting when Hugo Chavez has promised me all the food I need.
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  So I'll just sit and wait for it to be dumped in my lap.
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  So no production took place.
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  Yeah.
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  And what you just gave is a is a great example for the point I want to make, where when we give up too much our autonomy and rely on anyone.
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  And in this case, it's we're relying on the government, where really at some point the scale is going to tip in the government's favor, where our lives will be completely controlled, and we won't need to answer solely uh to the controller.
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  In this example, it would be the government.
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  And it's almost uh just one of these things where you know they keep dangling the carrots a little further and further away.
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  And I feel as though, you know, the majority of Americans keep inching towards the edge of that cliff.
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  They keep following the carrot.
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  Okay, this is the next free thing.
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  Okay, this is the next free thing.
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  The government's going to take care of this for me.
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  And they keep walking, and eventually that carrot is going to be hanging over the cliff.
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  And it's going to be the, you know, the dangerous step where is a final step essentially for us to really lose our freedom.
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  Right.
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  And they forget to ask the question where do the carrots come from?
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  Mandami doesn't have a giant warehouse full of carrots.
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  Um, he's got to bring them from somewhere.
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  And his only tool to do so is the money.
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  Money is what I call the meta tool.
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  It's the tool that enables all other tools, but all by itself, it's worthless.
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  I mean, you can't eat a dollar bill.
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  A dollar bill won't cover me to shelter me from cold weather.
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  It a dollar bill won't form a roof over my house.
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  It's only because it uh can be exchanged for something else that is valuable, whether it's the roofer or the shingles to repair my roof, or whether it's the um plumber who comes to replace my hot water heater, those are skills.
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  They know how to do things that I don't know how to do, and that's valuable, and the money becomes our medium of exchange.
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  When he wants to rely on the money all by itself, just as Hugo Chavez wanted to do, forgets about well, where did it come from in the first place?
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  Uh, who's who's keeping the oil fields in good repair and continuing to pump the oil?
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  Well, nobody.
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  So the oil production dropped off dramatically.
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  Uh, and then that's one of the reasons why we have so many uh Venezuelans in our country is because they were starving to death in Venezuela and they all left and went to other countries and other countries couldn't support them.
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  So they all funnel them north to become illegal immigrants to our country.
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  Yeah, you know, I just want to, I'm gonna digress for one moment because I recently uh talked about on one of my shows the uh the food chain right now.
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  Um, what's happening is that you know, we're starting to actually grow food in labs, uh, bioengineered food.
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  And uh, so those carrots that I was just talking about may someday actually be created and grown in a lab, but you're still going to need the workers inside that lab to run and to control that process.
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  However, I the other point that I when I was reading your article that I want to talk about is this artificial intelligence, AI.
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  So that's really something that I think in the last five years, we are seeing such an increase and from where it all began to how quickly it seems to be progressing up the mountainside.
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  And um, those labs, you know, that will produce many of our products and are starting to produce products.
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  Uh, is there in your mind uh a possibility that we and we're starting to see workers being replaced in factories by AI technology?
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  So could this really be an Orwellian type uh world that we are heading into not only New York City electing a socialist mayor who wants to control the means of production, but coupling that with this AI revolution that's happening.
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  Well, the AI could very definitely uh be growing and so forth, but even there, AI is only an amalgam of all human knowledge.
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  And if you if you've done an AI search for items from the news, you get a lot of biased information and misreporting of the news that you know can't possibly be true, because it's just summarizing what human beings have put out there on the web.
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  And in a similar fashion in the factory, it's only relying on what human engineers and biologists and scientists have put in there.
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  And if there's not a uh trial and error, double check on that, of course, it could turn out to be wrong.
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  We've got we've got to have a uh checks and balances on that sort of thing.
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  And one of the checks and balances is the free market economy, where you and I can say, I choose not to buy lab grown meat, or I choose not to buy a lab-grown uh carrot or whatever.
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  Now, going back to um uh years ago, hybrid vigor is is one of the uh uh basic tenets of uh of blending varieties.
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  We have different apple trees, for example, and uh uh they've been blended from previous varieties where they've been merged together, uh, where one tree has been fertilized by another, and so we we have a so it's a natural process that could be done outside of a lab.
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  So if somebody wants to try it inside the lab, it's just an a continuation of that.
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  But as long as you and I have the choice, the free market choice to buy it or not, we should be okay.
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  The problem comes in when we are forced to buy this stuff by the all-knowing, all-seeing government who thinks they know best that we run into problems, as of course we've seen with some of the side effects from the COVID vaccines.
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  Yeah, and I and I'm gonna use this opportunity uh to this is what I'll call a public of service announcement here in the middle of the show.
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  Um, I was recently reading about um something called a cheetah protein or a cheetah powder, and that's spelled A-C-H-E-T-A.
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  And what that is, it's actually uh ground up crickets.
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  Um, they evidently are a high source of protein that can be uh cheaply manufactured and are more environmentally friendly.
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  So what's happening is um, and I've been really reading the ingredients now on pastas, breads, protein bars, cookies.
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  They are slipping in these uh ground up crickets uh into the food source, unbeknownst to many consumers.
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  So, you know, just a reminder to you know, take a look at what you're buying, whether you know, we're talking lab-grown meat, uh, you know, a cheetah powder in your bread, your pastas.
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  I think that as consumers, we should have the right to choose, as you said, what we want to purchase or not.
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  But part of that is understanding what you're purchasing, right?
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  What's inside of the products you're buying.
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  And uh, so I just wanted to, you know, digress another time here and mention that as well.
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  Well, that's and that's uh well put and a good warning, caveat enter, let the buyer beware.
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  Uh we should all be reading the labels of these foodstuffs that we bought to know what we're putting into our bodies.
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  But as long as we have a free market economy, we are free to do that.
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  I can walk into my uh my grocery store, and there's just an incredible cornucopia abundance of food types.
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  There's Hispanic foods, there's uh Asian foods, there's you name it, it's in there.
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  And as long as I'm not forced to buy any of those, I can I might test it.
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  I say, hey, I've never tried this before, I'll try it.
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  And as long as I have the free choice, uh, we find all that gets sorted out.
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  It's whether there's a single formula like MNR, if I'm remembering the acronym correctly for the COVID, uh, the underlying basis of the COVID vaccine, that we're given no choice, we're forced to do the one thing.
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  That's where we run into problems.
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  You know, um, people when I when we first studied evolutionary biology, for example, the old phrase was uh
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  Misrepresentation, uh survival of the fittest.
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  Well, it's not survival of the fittest in the biological world, it's survival of the fit.
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  There are thousands of species that can um survive.
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  And just like a jigsaw puzzle, does it fit?
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  You take a piece and does it fit?
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  If it fits, it it works.
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  So if these foods fit somebody's taste and they're not harmful to our bodies, and have been tested and passed some basic safety uh standards, then it's up to us.
• 30:34
  Well, you bring up a good point with the COVID vaccine, the MRNA technology that is inside of that um that formula.
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  You know, that was a case where uh people were really coerced into taking a substance and putting it into their body, whether it was to keep a job, to attend an arts event, uh, to go to college.
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  You know, there were so many scenarios where we saw that.
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  And it's almost as though that was a test run to see um how far they could push the mass of humanity.
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  And so I would say then here's an example.
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  Let's say you get SNAP benefits currently, right?
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  How easy would it be for the government to instill guardrails on that even further and say, well, when you go into the grocery store now, we really are only going to let you purchase items that are made with the cricket powder, such as the breads, the pastas, um, protein items, because they are more cost efficient and more environmentally friendly.
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  So now you as a consumer really aren't given that free market choice.
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  You're being told or dictated to by the government, who is supposedly giving you this free benefit, when in fact it's actually going to have more and more strings attached to it in order for you to continue to receive it.
• 32:14
  And that's where, you know, tying it back into dangling that carrot even further and further to the edge of the cliff, where eventually your your final step is going to be complete loss of any autonomy or privacy or critical thinking and you know, all of the above.
• 32:33
  Yes, just so.
• 32:34
  And when you lose that autonomy, um, that's where we're in the crux of socialism is when they coerce you and force you to do things, which when there's one central authority in control of everything, uh, that becomes their method of production.
• 32:52
  And not just reading a quick summary of the Venezuelan situation.
• 32:56
  There came a time when to try to relieve the food shortage, um, the government forced people out into the fields as slave labor to go till the fields.
• 33:07
  And they quickly uh left, they left the country and they were slipping across the border into neighboring countries because they didn't want to do it, they didn't want to be forced, and they didn't uh see that there was going to be much better or a better supply of food uh under this forced labor system than under the uh the previous free enterprise system.
• 33:31
  So as you say, those people who say, oh boy, I get these snap benefits, and uh if I remember right, the S in SNAP stands for supplemental and the N for nutritional.
• 33:46
  Well, it's if it was supplemental, then they can't control you.
• 33:50
  But if you're relying it totally for your food supply, then the government has its boot on your neck.
• 33:57
  Uh, it can do force you to do the things that you just described, except except the ground crickets, because it's either that or starvation.
• 34:06
  So if you preserve your independence, your own way of making a living, um, then you don't have to depend on the government.
• 34:15
  Yeah, and it and it does, you were correct.
• 34:17
  It stands for supplemental nutrition assistance program.
• 34:22
  And I think one of the things that is sorely lacking within our education system is teaching our young people how to grow their own food.
• 34:33
  Uh, it used to be uh a time in history, uh, long time ago where we had something called community gardens.
• 34:42
  And uh that was really a place that uh massive areas uh were set aside for the community to grow healthy fruits and vegetables and to really just maintain their self-sufficiency and control the quality as well, because you know what we're seeing with today's uh fruits, for example, with this appeal, APEL that is being put on top of the items uh is evidently not the healthiest thing.
• 35:15
  And um, all of that is um, you know, just really out of your control when you're uh handing it over to someone else.
• 35:22
  So, all right, we are going to take a break.
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• 37:50
  Well, I'm back with uh Michael McCarthy.
• 37:53
  And Mike, I just want to something came to mind.
• 37:57
  I had you on the show uh at one point, and we talked about the three functions of government.
• 38:05
  And uh you wrote in one of your articles a couple months back, uh, referring to a quote in Shakespeare's Hamlet about uh the three proper functions, which are to protect citizens from criminals, to provide fair and impartial resolution of disputes in a court system, and number three, to protect citizens from foreign enemies.
• 38:31
  Anything outside of those three functions uh begins to creep into the government control, government dysfunction, and uh which also affects our families, our businesses, our our faith, and you know, oftentimes even our wallets.
• 38:50
  So just kind of tying that into what we're talking about with New York City mayor elect Zoran Memdani and uh the campaign promises he made.
• 39:03
  You know, what are your um, you know, do you have any predictions of where you think his term will end up?
• 39:12
  Well, I think his term, and unless it's subsidized by Washington, which I hope it's not.
• 39:18
  I hope that recent meeting between Mondami and Trump doesn't signal that Trump is willing to subsidize this.
• 39:25
  But if it's left alone to succeed or fail on its own merits, I think it's gonna end up much like Venezuela, where if he's gonna control the food stores, there will be less and less food in the food stores.
• 39:37
  If he's gonna control the public transportation, there will be fewer and fewer buses running.
• 39:43
  Uh, because scarcity usually follows socialist control from the top down.
• 39:50
  Anytime the government tries to control everything, is the economists use that term central control.
• 40:00
  There's just too much to control.
• 40:02
  It's much better controlled at the local level.
• 40:06
  And you think about our traffic lights, just a quick example.
• 40:09
  They're all programmed that uh at any given intersection, it'll stay red for so many minutes, it'll switch to green and so forth.
• 40:17
  But if you can imagine if all the traffic lights in America were run by some central entity in Washington, DC, can you imagine the massive traffic jams?
• 40:30
  We could be waiting for hours and days while somebody in Washington decides, oh yeah, it's time to flip the traffic light in uh that little town in North Carolina from red to green.
• 40:41
  Well, I'm dying out here before that happens.
• 40:44
  There's just too many decisions to be made.
• 40:47
  And no matter how wise they think they are, they just can't make all those decisions.
• 40:53
  And that's the benefit of a decentralized um free market economy is that all those things are uh made on the local level.
• 41:04
  Yeah.
• 41:05
  Well, I I want to now turn the page to a book that you mentioned called Superabundance by authors Marion Tupie and Gail Pooley.
• 41:18
  And you mentioned this book in your uh article that we're discussing, where the authors demonstrate that the real measure of wealth is not material objects, but rather knowledge generated by the intelligence or brains of a free people.
• 41:40
  Um so I'm curious, it sounds as though you've read that book.
• 41:44
  Well, how can you um how can you describe to us what that book, the premise of what it was all about?
• 41:53
  Well, uh to take a an example back when after the coal and during the Cold War, there was an East and a West Germany.
• 42:02
  We all think of uh German engineering as being the standard for the world and German automobiles, the Mercedes Bins, the Audi, um those types of things as being excellent.
• 42:16
  Well, when they divided Germany into an East and West, and the East was under the control of Russia and run under a communist system, the brains of those engineers were the same, the same German engineers, but they removed all incentives to do your best work.
• 42:33
  And so the slogan was they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work.
• 42:39
  And so where you had these excellent automobiles, everybody wanted to buy these automobiles from West Germany, uh, which were considered the standard of excellence, the automobile produced by East Germany was known as the Trabant, and it was famous for billowing out clouds of smoke uh that was burning oil from the engine and breaking down frequently.
• 43:01
  And it even the engine was uh a two-cycled engine, like some of the old uh motorcycle engines where you had to add oil into the gasoline before you uh filled up your gas tank.
• 43:13
  So it was much more complicated just to get it running.
• 43:16
  And when it did run, it would break down.
• 43:19
  You think, oh, wait a minute, this automobile, the Trabant is produced by these German engineers who are supposed to be so good.
• 43:27
  Why is it so bad?
• 43:29
  Well, because the government was controlling their brains, telling them what to do, when to do it, how to do it.
• 43:37
  Whereas in West Germany, they were free to use their brains and their engineering expertise to make improvements and year by year come up with improvement after improvement after improvement to make better and better automobiles.
• 43:51
  Um even though it's the same ethnic stock of Germans, uh, it's the same natural resources.
• 44:00
  What we saw is terrible products from the East and good products from the West.
• 44:06
  It was a case study.
• 44:08
  Yeah, well, exactly, because there was no real incentive for the workers in the East to do their best work, uh, put their best energy, their best ideas, talents forward, because you know, it sounds as if it was just a one-size-fits-all approach, uh, whether you were at the bottom as far as intelligence or towards the top, you know, everybody was basically paid and rewarded in the same way as opposed to really allowing uh critical thinking and um, you know, ingenuity to really rise to the top.
• 44:51
  And and I, you know, I'm gonna just tie that back to with, you know, the COVID vaccine was really this one size fits all approach, too.
• 45:00
  It it didn't matter what type of underlying health issues you had, what type of familial history of health issues you had.
• 45:10
  It was, you know, roll up your sleeve and get this, and thank you very much.
• 45:18
  And of course, we see the glaring hypocrisy with that recent transmission by that group of people who were trying to encourage soldiers to refuse an order back during COVID.
• 45:31
  Does that mean they could refuse an order to take the jab?
• 45:34
  No, they were uh taken out of the military.
• 45:38
  They were ejected from the military if they didn't take the jab.
• 45:41
  So the hypocrisy is when when we're in charge and we give you an order, you better do it or else.
• 45:47
  But if somebody else is in charge that we don't like, then oh well, you could question this.
• 45:53
  So it's the ability to use your own brain and make decisions.
• 45:59
  And uh the hard work involved.
• 46:02
  I don't know if you could remember a story of many years ago when uh the Tesla factories out in California were encountering some problems.
• 46:10
  Elon Musk went out there and he left his corporate offices and he camped out in the factory, and he was there 24 hours a day, and he slept underneath his desk and kept working with his team to let's try this.
• 46:24
  Let's try that.
• 46:24
  Just trying new ideas, that one didn't work, this one doesn't work, okay.
• 46:28
  We'll try another one, try another control.
• 46:29
  He finally got it all straightened out and found the way to make it work.
• 46:33
  Well, that was the hard work plus the the brain work that uh the book Superabundance talks about.
• 46:40
  And that was what was lacking in those German engineers uh in East Germany is the brain work, the knowledge.
• 46:48
  I mean, the raw materials are the same.
• 46:50
  There's a piece of metal that forms the engine of an automobile.
• 46:54
  There is rubber that forms the tires of an automobile.
• 46:57
  So all that's the same.
• 46:58
  The only difference is the knowledge and skills for how to put them together into a better automobile.
• 47:06
  And that's the true source of wealth.
• 47:09
  Yeah.
• 47:10
  And I, you know, I just had a thought about uh with the superabundance book you wrote about, you know, how generating uh true wealth is by keeping the brains of free people, you know, a concept that is fully functioning and you know, thriving.
• 47:29
  But in fact, you know, when we look at what was taken place, what took place during the COVID years, the idea of questioning the science or having any type of critical thinking skills whatsoever, other than what was being played out on a uh revolving loop on you know, all the major media outlets, um, really is just another should be a glaring example for anyone who's listening about questioning whether or not you remain a free people or free person if the government can step in and tell you you must inject this substance into your body, period.
• 48:18
  Um, and I think that that is just a moment in history that we will forever go back to and or should forever go back to and really ask ourselves were we truly a free people at that moment in time.
• 48:33
  Exactly.
• 48:34
  And were we being given the full set of facts uh for this thing we're being forced to do.
• 48:40
  So that uh is a great example of what happens when we're given no choice by the powers of B, uh, that be, and of course, those did have a choice, but the choice was they had to lose their jobs or be ejected from the military, uh, that type of thing.
• 48:59
  But those who are brave enough to do it are probably better off, and we're starting to see some health data now that says unvaccinated people are healthier and have fewer problems than the vaccinated, because there's now some suspicion that it may degrade your immune system.
• 49:15
  Yeah, and you know, early on, there was also the myocarditis uh in young teen men specifically.
• 49:22
  And I know that that study was kind of kept uh under wraps, but you know, I've been reading there's been there is more and more coming out about that.
• 49:32
  Um, and uh, you know, I think that um we're gonna continue to hear about it for a very long time.
• 49:39
  What was supposed to be over in a two year time span has certainly uh stretched out its its lifetime because here we are almost six years later, and it's still openly being discussed.
• 49:54
  Yes, just so back to this um superabundance book, the idea that not.
• 50:00
  Knowledge is the key.
• 50:01
  And using the COVID thing as the example when they said, don't question the science.
• 50:08
  Science, as you and I learned it, is based upon questioning.
• 50:13
  Of course, you question.
• 50:14
  You put out a hypothesis, you test it.
• 50:17
  If it seems to be the best hypothesis that fits the available results, the available facts, fine, we'll go with it.
• 50:24
  But then if a better hypothesis comes along that comes about because we questioned it, then that's how we make improvements.
• 50:33
  Otherwise, we would be saying that the um the steam engine is the most efficient form of uh energy production there is.
• 50:40
  Well, no, then the internal combustion engine came along, and now we're getting the uh EV cars and so forth.
• 50:47
  We're constantly experimenting and testing these new ways.
• 50:51
  And when you shut down that constant testing, um you're stopping science.
• 50:57
  So questioning science is the method of science.
• 51:00
  It is not anti-science, it is science itself.
• 51:04
  Of course, you question.
• 51:05
  You question and then you test.
• 51:07
  Which way works best.
• 51:09
  Yeah, I wonder where were all the science teachers when all of that, you know, follow the science was going on, and and those of us who were questioning were, you know, being ridiculed.
• 51:22
  Uh, you know, I know personally, you know, my eighth grade science teacher was uh probably just uh sitting back shaking his head when when that nonsense was happening.
• 51:33
  But uh, you know, so be it.
• 51:35
  Uh here we are, though.
• 51:37
  I want to spend a little bit of time because uh there are I've started my Christmas shopping, I'm sure many listening have, and I just want to talk a little bit about you are the author of a trilogy of prophetic political thriller novels.
• 51:58
  And I want you to talk a little bit about those three books, because I think uh number one, they're readily available at the America Outlaw Bookstore.
• 52:08
  Uh, you can also get those on Amazon.
• 52:12
  And I think that they are very fiction fiction written, obviously, but when you read them, it really has you uh start to really think about things a little deeper than you otherwise, you know, would have.
• 52:30
  So tell us about those books, Mike, and um we'll go from there.
• 52:35
  Okay, well, thank you for giving me the opportunity.
• 52:37
  Well, I started out with the uh the first book was called the NOAA option, and in many ways it is a retelling of the story of Atlas Shrugged, where again, government control shut down the ability of entrepreneurs to innovate.
• 52:54
  Excuse me.
• 52:56
  Somebody updated it to my two characters, were a black woman who is a biologist who is inventing new and better ways to grow food and more productive ways with less water, less fertilizer, and so forth, so that the result was that she had the crops that could literally feed the whole world.
• 53:16
  Uh and then her boyfriend, who is the computer genius, Isaiah, and uh they wanted to shut down his new products because it threatened the established software countries, excuse me, companies, uh, that his products were so much better.
• 53:36
  So they wanted to shut him down.
• 53:38
  So again, the government tries to shut them both down, and when they finally figure out what's happening, that it's not just they're not just picking on them, they're doing this to everybody, from the auto mechanic who's being flooded with uh all kinds of rules and regulations, which severely restricts his ability to do what should be a simple job of working on your automobile to um schools and churches are being told what they may or may not teach and preach.
• 54:07
  Uh, they see that it's control, central control from the government, and so they revolt against it.
• 54:14
  And the word Noah option, that the story of Noah in the Bible is that he built an ark to float above the flood.
• 54:22
  And my metaphor is that my heroines, I uh Isaiah and Grace Washington uh metaphorically build an arc places that people can retreat to to be free of this flood of government control.
• 54:40
  And as a matter of fact, the further irony is that toward the end of the book, you see instead of all these illegals flooding across the borders into America, we see Americans, oh, and the other way to escape all the tight control that our own government is putting on them.
• 54:57
  Yeah, all right.
• 54:57
  And that is so that's your first book, the NOAA option.
• 55:00
  And then you wrote a follow-up for your second book, the rainbow option.
• 55:06
  Uh, and then your third book was the Tim Shell option.
• 55:10
  Um let's let's jump to the Tim Show option.
• 55:13
  We have a few minutes left because we are talking about uh New York City mayor elect Mamdani, and uh that somewhat ties into some of the characters in the Tim Show option.
• 55:27
  Okay, well, the uh rainbow option is simply a continuation of the story begun in the NOAA option.
• 55:33
  Uh the Timchal option shows the aftermath of all the government control causing a complete breakdown of the United States of America uh into segments.
• 55:44
  It's almost like the uh what would have happened if the Civil War hadn't reunited America.
• 55:51
  And so we show a group of invaders uh based on ISIS invading New England and establishing what they call the New England caliphate and running it under Islamic law, Sharia law.
• 56:07
  And one of the features of that is that girls may not go to school.
• 56:11
  And so my heroine Christina is sent home from school along with the other girls, and she resolves that she's not going to take this line down, that she's going to find a way to continue her own education and resist this control.
• 56:28
  And so the book shows her further adventures about how she finds a way to circumvent this heavy-handed top-down control under this uh Sharia law.
• 56:40
  Yeah, well, definitely a uh timely trilogy of novels and one that if you're listening and and you're looking for something to uh get as a gift, uh, maybe you're looking to purchase for someone who's hard to buy for.
• 56:57
  I think uh getting them this would really be something that um could perhaps get people's minds um more open and digging a little deeper to what we see happening politically, specifically in New York City, but also throughout the United States.
• 57:16
  Um, and with that, Michael McCarthy, I want to just thank you so much for joining me today here on Unleashed the Political News Hour.
• 57:26
  And I want to wish you and your family a very merry Christmas.
• 57:32
  And a Merry Christmas to you.
• 57:34
  All right.
• 57:35
  Well, thank you so much.
• 57:36
  Uh until next time, everyone listening.
• 57:39
  Merry Christmas and God bless.