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  Hello. And welcome to another episode
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  of the Christian we've podcast today's This is a podcast of
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  hailing, all the way from Texas in the United States, which goes
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  by the name, Jennifer Weintraub. Welcome to the show.
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  How you doing? I'm fantastic.
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  How are you? I'm very good.
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  It's been here. I'm happy to have.
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  You happy to have you? Thank you for agreeing to do
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  this. Yeah, let's jump straight into
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  your podcast, so you are the co-host of the speculate with us
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  podcast. Talk to us about the types of
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  topics that you tend to discuss on there and why you decided to
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  start this podcast, okay? Well, first off, I'm the host
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  because I like to take the title and the other two are the
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  co-host since I do believe them. You know, head host.
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  I don't know. Where is the hostess with the
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  mostest post? I guess?
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  Yeah, I guess there isn't actually a word is, therefore,
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  like ahead host of a show? No, I just always been like
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  this. Is my show and you guys got to
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  come on it. No, it started.
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  I want to say after the covid-19.
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  Stuff. I kept getting on social media
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  and I've always been a huge, like conspiracy theorist and I
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  love looking in the different things and just thinking about
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  them. I don't care if they're true or
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  not. I just think it's fun to talk
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  about and after covid and the election was happening.
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  Everybody started getting so like hostile about, if you
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  believe anything that rather than the narrative that's being,
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  you know, given to you, you are a trump supporter or you believe
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  in Q&A. Don or it's just like they
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  lumped you into this huge category and I was like it was
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  real hateful rhetoric and like going on in the comments section
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  and so I was like I really want a peaceful place to just have
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  these discussions and everybody's like respectful of
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  one another. We don't call names.
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  Yeah, their beliefs might be ridiculous, but it's okay
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  because it's their beliefs and not ours.
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  And so, anyways, that became the speculate with us podcast with
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  my husband and my One of my best friends Billy and it's been
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  really fun. You get to finally meet people
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  that you like you're like oh there are peaceful people out
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  there and it's not all like it says it is on Facebook and it's
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  been a really fun journey to just be able to talk about
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  things that like I said I mean who knows what's really going
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  on. I think that was my whole point
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  and it all is like nobody really knows the truth unless they saw
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  it with their own eyes, right? So why are we fighting over
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  what? We deem the truth when it's all
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  relative to what source. It's Being from so, you know,
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  it's it was that and it's been a fun ride and I'm looking forward
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  to more of it. So when it comes to the
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  approaching of different topics, do you kind of like come in with
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  like, okay, here's like all of the fact that you do have, do
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  you go through like I guess what I'm saying is like a rigorous
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  research process for it or do you kind of just go?
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  Okay, this is the topic, let's just shoot on what we know and
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  see where it goes. What's the what's the style?
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  That's why I've used Discord so much.
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  Has for our kind of layout. It's been very helpful to have
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  all invite the guests in about a week, prior to the topic, unless
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  they're already in there, we recycle a lot of guests to.
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  So, a lot of times I'll be like, oh, here's a topic.
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  I just found who wants to be on it and I'll tag everybody and
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  then we have room for like, two more people and then we'll just
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  keep posting articles, they find on it.
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  We'll have our discussions in the group and then that way
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  we're kind of prepared to see where everybody's kind of coming
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  from when we started. Hoarding but then who knows, you
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  know, might go a completely different direction while we're
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  recording or go down and another Rabbit Hole or, you know, it's
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  not very structured. What we do, we just kind of are
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  like, let's discuss this and see what happens.
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  And so yeah, they sometimes it works better that way.
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  I mean, I must say for me personally, for my podcast, I
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  need that kind of structured. Just I think that's just how I
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  work. I don't know.
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  I've noticed it's the same across everything that I do, but
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  I know many people and I've interviewed people on the
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  podcast before that, I have like a I guess a less structured
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  structure but sometimes that that is better because, you
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  know, if you do have like a really rigid structure that can
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  actually sometimes be to the detriment of the podcast.
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  So yeah, I think it was for you guys that's really cool who is
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  some of your kind of more memorable guests that you've had
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  on the show and and why was that the case?
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  Well we lucked out I'm actually a hair stylist in Texas.
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  I have been for God like 13 years.
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  I think. I know.
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  Where are you from? I'm from the UK.
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  Okay, so, you know about Toni & Guy?
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  Yeah, I was trained with Toni & Guy for 10 years.
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  I managed their salons and I was a hair cutter with them.
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  And then I went out on my own and I started doing mobile hair.
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  So I go to people's houses and they come to mind and I get to
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  have all the money instead of Toni & Guy taking all of it.
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  But How long does it actually take to become a hair stylist in
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  America? So you go to hair school for.
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  I want to say it was like 12:00 so it's about a year if you go
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  full time. Oh well, okay, it is like nine
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  to five. You have to go to like a
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  specific college or do you just do classes with a particular
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  provider? Like, how does that work?
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  Yeah, there's different. So the one I went to is Ogle.
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  Toni & Guy has their own School, Paul.
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  Will has their own school and really it's kind of like this
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  contest of who has the better, you know, education.
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  But what it comes down to is all you're going to have to do is
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  pass this lame-ass test at the end of it.
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  And then you're going to have to go to a salon and get like
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  trained and you know all this other stuff or you're going to
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  go to Supercuts like a low-end salon and they're going to let
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  you screw up a bunch of people's hair and you get paid ten
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  dollars an hour for the rest of your life.
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  You know. It's it's up to you what you
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  want to do but Tony and I provide And to Ogle and then I
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  started with Toni and Guy while I was still in school and they
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  trained me their training takes about a year to.
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  Hmm. So you're bringing in models and
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  all that and then from there you just build up, you know I think
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  I started charging like $44 a haircut and by the time I left I
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  was at 80 so every year 15 dollars so that is I mean okay
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  the reason I I'm intrigued by it while I'm just Intrigued in
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  general, I guess, I'm not so awesome but not many people may
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  know this but my father is actually a barber and it's in
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  the family business. So I have like a bit of a
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  personal stake in this let's say and I always found like the
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  concept very fascinating particularly now because I don't
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  I'm sort of like a freelancer in the marketing field and the way
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  I look at hair styling is that it's like this fantastic skill
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  that you can literally just take anywhere in the world with you
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  during a meal. Go freelance with it.
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  But what I'm particularly interested to know is that do
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  can you operate in that manner? Like a sort of a freelance like,
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  you know, you go wherever you want and you do it that way or
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  do you have to kind of be affiliated with the like a
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  particular brand like what the kind of options in America as
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  far as like coming here? I think that you could just
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  freelance straight out of school if you wanted to, but I think
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  that's very risky and I would never advise to do that after.
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  So, for you, you've been in the field for some time, right?
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  You Bill, A reputation nervously with hairdressing and bar
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  worship, it's very much a case of building a client base.
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  And yes, it's very much Word of Mouth like, oh, you gotta have
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  this hair stylist, she's great. And you refer each other, right?
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  Right. Obviously over do over those
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  years. Like, if you were to set up your
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  own business, now you could be like, hey, I'm going to start my
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  own thing and those clients will come over because they trust you
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  and they would refer their friends to you and blah blah
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  blah. So like I completely agree with
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  you. Yeah, if you're just getting out
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  of college and doing it, that's the worst.
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  Not true. Yeah.
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  Well, what just you need to meet people?
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  Do you need to network, right? Yes.
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  But like would you recommend it now?
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  Like having haven't been in the industry for a while?
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  You think it's a viable? Oh yeah.
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  I mean, that's what I eventually did.
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  Because it's like, how else you either move up and you make a
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  company more money or you keep moving up and you make yourself
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  that money? And I realized that a at Toni &
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  Guy at the time you could only do color or cut, I was still
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  doing color on. On the side, but in the salon, I
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  could only do cuts, but it was okay, because it was like $80
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  every 45 minutes. However, I wasn't using anything
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  of theirs. It was my talent and my scissors
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  that I bought in like a little bit of their hair product and
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  they were taking 50% of my cut, you know, this is why I was
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  like, literally leave and only take, 50 percent of my clientele
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  and make the same amount of money in my pocket, and have a
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  way less stressful life and be able to like stay with my kid.
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  Home and so that's what I did. I basically was just like screw
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  this, I left I actually tried it out for a month before I told
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  them, I quit I went on like a long vacation hmm because yeah,
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  as long story I was supposed to actually move for a month to
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  like go be with a guy and we broke up and so I was like I'm
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  just going to use this to see if I can go out on my own you know
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  and after that month I was like oh hell no I'm never going back.
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  I give us so relaxing and like I love my clients they're like
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  Family at this point, you know, a lot of them have been with for
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  the 10 to 12 years, I've been doing here, so I don't need a
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  box, you know, that they come to to hang out with me.
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  They can come to my house and I can go to theirs and it's all
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  good and then I don't have the overhead either.
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  So I'm literally doing the same thing like yours.
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  It's like the most freelance you can possibly be because I don't
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  have to rent a room or anything like that.
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  It's just myself. I'm bringing myself my talent to
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  your house and we do our thing and then we hang out and it's
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  cool. It's a really good way to my
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  business. I mean, you know, I feel kind of
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  bad that I haven't bothered to learn it yet, myself.
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  It just never really come up. Like, I did very briefly in turn
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  in my dad's store just as a Saturday boy for, like, a year
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  when I was like 12 or 13. We map the hair and yeah.
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  Yeah. You know, I just it's quite
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  funny actually after about a year, I got fired.
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  Yes, I got fired by my dad. Funny story.
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  So I had this asshole manager that was there and I don't know
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  why he was there but he was a manager.
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  Sure. And it was weird because like
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  here I am 12 13. I worked crazy hours.
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  I'm pretty sure it was illegal but yeah, it's fine.
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  Child labor a little bit but at the same time was with my dad's.
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  Okay. And but that when I look back
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  I'm like damn, I used to work like the full day like every
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  weekend for a year like 10 11 hours a day like what the hell.
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  Anyway so there was this asshole manager there and it was really
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  weird. For me because, you know, my
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  dad's over there. So he in my mind at this age is
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  like the most authoritative person in the situation and then
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  there's this other guy giving me orders and technically because
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  he's an adult, I look at him like, okay, I'll do what he says
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  but I also realize he's an asshole.
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  And you know what I mean by that is like let's say I'm doing
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  something else, right? And I'm putting 100% of my
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  effort into that he's constantly like you know, taking Joe making
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  jokes, making fun of Me and calling it banter and then also
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  being like, why haven't you done this yet?
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  What have you done this yet? We haven't done this yet.
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  It's like dude, I'm doing this thing.
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  Like also what are you doing? Better than watching me
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  believing a child. What's wrong with you?
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  Yeah anyway, so yeah, after about a year, one day watching
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  this guy's hair, you know, it's pretty normal.
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  And as I'm watching it, I turned away first Always pay attention
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  to what you're doing, just in life.
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  And he's just having a go at me. And and bear in mind, he's
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  supposed to be cutting the guy's hair as well.
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  So, he's actually not doing what he's supposed to be doing
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  either. He's just turned to me, he's
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  like, why haven't you clean like the bathroom or something
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  bubbler? Yeah.
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  And it's like well, clearly like the shop floor is the priority.
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  The bathroom is like a lesser priority coming.
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  So anyway, I carry on and all I hear is I'm going to move away
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  from the mic from this, okay? Here is this, I go and I'm like,
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  what what what? And I look down and basically
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  I'm accidentally burning. This guy's head with the water.
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  Oh shit. So I quickly turn it off.
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  And then so the managers having a go at me he's like oh you've
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  gone too far now and I'm like, fuck you man.
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  And then basically, my dad is just looking at me.
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  He doesn't even say that you just Come here and it gives me
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  some some money and he says, take a taxi go home and that was
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  his way of saying you're fired. He was sweet about it though.
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  Yeah, I remember for a while afterwards, I was trying to get
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  my job back and explain like it wasn't my fool, you know?
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  And and the irony is he fired that guy later on anyway and
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  like, I knew get fight and like I can't say why you got fired,
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  but like, you know, he got fired and quite rightly so definitely
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  not for being a jackass. This is because he was being way
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  too nice. He was he was doing something
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  that he shouldn't have been doing outside of the shop floor.
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  Let's put it that way. Okay.
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  Yeah. Hair salons are wonderful places
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  for some interesting stories that man drama drama drama and
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  speaking of which give us some of your best.
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  Oh God I have such good ones. Well because I was a manager, I
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  had to I'm like a very non-confrontational person.
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  But being a manager, you can't really be like that.
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  So, I was always kind of like, okay guys, we have to talk about
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  what you did wrong, you know? But I was like, I really love
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  you guys and I'm sorry that I have to tell you anything, but
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  so one of my favorite guys that I worked with, he was the top
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  level, dude. He's an Asian dude, not gay,
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  which was so weird to me, but he had like, that's a good point.
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  It's so weird. Like, but women flock to him, he
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  was really good at what he did. He charged like $90 a haircut
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  but didn't stop anybody. And I was like, man, I need to
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  find a husband. Like this guy, he's just like
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  awesome. You know, he's such a good
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  husband to his wife and all this stuff and then like this new
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  girl comes and I'm like they're flirting a lot, you know.
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  And the people are like other coworkers are like saying
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  they're uncomfortable, because they'll be kind of like touchy
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  in the break room and so basically escalates Point where
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  I have to say something to both of them or else other.
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  People are uncomfortable in that sexual harassment.
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  Correct. So so I'm like goddamn dude this
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  guy is my like Mentor who I look up to you know and now I have to
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  go scold him and oh no it's like this horrible awkward.
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  I sit both of them down and I'm like, look, I don't care what is
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  going on between the two of you. I don't have to agree with it or
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  not, but you have to keep it out of the salon, you know?
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  Or whatever. So that was awkward and itself.
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  But then the wife would start coming in and like, making
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  little comments to the other girls.
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  So she knew and the whole thing was still going on.
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  So we all knew that too, and it was just like, it was the worst
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  thing. I was like, I hate cheating, but
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  I love this guy. But I hate this guy now, you
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  know, it's just like this whole going to say, as well, like the
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  I hate real, I think most people do, right?
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  Yeah. Like if you're married to
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  someone, You know, that they're cheating, why make like snide
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  comments to everyone and be like a not just just confront a
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  person, get a divorce or I don't know.
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  Something why stay with that person.
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  If you know they're cheating on you, I don't understand that.
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  I don't understand how people do it because for me lack of, you
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  know, the trust there is just like, well, if you don't you
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  have, if you hid it from me, that's a whole that's a big
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  problem and we're done. If you did it came home and
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  we're like, holy shit. I screwed up.
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  Maybe we can work through it, maybe I don't know, but because
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  at least you had it, you know, like a conscience enough to be
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  like, I need to tell her immediately when it happens, you
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  know, versus trying to carry out this life or an entire
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  relationship. So that to me is the difference,
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  but I'd still don't know if I could ever deal with it.
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  I'm jealous. No matter what I gotta say,
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  like, for me personally, I could never forgive someone and but
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  here's the thing, great, if, if someone like one-off sleeps with
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  someone like one off, It, I could.
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  I could forgive that person I couldn't continue being with
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  them but I could forgive that because you know what we're all
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  human. Jeannot mean shit happens.
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  You know it's love sex, whatever.
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  It's all you know, it's above like it you know you don't put
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  logic into the situation. You it's like damn I feel a
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  connection with this person. Holy shit and stuff happens.
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  Right? Yeah and but here's the his the
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  issue I suppose it is about conscience for the most part and
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  It's a long-term deal. If they're like regular sleeping
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  with someone like, I don't think I could ever forgive that like,
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  that's, it's so disrespect. And it's like, you know what,
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  like, and I've reason this as well.
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  I like, in my mind in more recent years, the way I look at
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  it is if I'm if I start like having feelings for other
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  people, I don't think it's bad to have like An interest in
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  other people. Because like, a lot of people
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  forget that when you get married, when you, when you get
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  in relationships and you fall in love, like your drive, doesn't
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  like turn off. You don't just stop fancy and
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  other people and like, you know, I don't believe in that hold.
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  There's only one soul mate thing, there are many, like you
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  click with different people and like you can't do.
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  No, I've met people where, you know, I'm like, yeah, this will
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  be perfect, but like she's married or I'm with someone or
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  whatever and it's like you just move on.
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  You just go. Okay, cool.
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  Cool, too. Nice to know that there's, you
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  know, other options. Nice to know.
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  I'm still, you know, wanted whatever, you know.
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  Yeah. But you move on, right?
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  Right. But I think, like, a lot of
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  people just don't get that. And they go, they kind of, they
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  forget about that. And it's like that.
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  If you start genuinely having feelings for someone else, just
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  end the thing. Just, just be honest with your
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  partner, say, look, I'm sorry, I've started having feelings for
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  someone else because, you know, Know what?
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  Yeah. They'll be upset in the
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  beginning. They'll be heartbroken but in
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  the long run they'll respect you they won't hate you and they
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  won't try and mess up your life afterwards.
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  Because you didn't like mess up, there's I mean, it obviously
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  depends on the person. But yeah, you go, I mean, yeah,
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  most of the time it's, I mean, I've actually had that situation
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  happen where I was about, to get married to my daughter's dad,
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  and I was looking for a DJ and I reached out to an old boyfriend
• 19:47
  of mine, because he was a DJ, and I was like, oh, he'll
• 19:50
  probably Give me with somebody cheap and we ended up talking
• 19:53
  for like five hours that night and I had these weird little
• 19:56
  butterflies and I was like this is so not okay you know and so I
• 20:01
  ended up really abruptly like breaking up with her dad.
• 20:04
  Yeah. And I'm sure he was kind of like
• 20:06
  what the hell you know? Because I didn't have the heart
• 20:08
  to say like it's somebody else it was just more like it's not
• 20:12
  you, you know, kind of thing. Like we don't need to be
• 20:15
  together but I couldn't fathom like having those feelings for
• 20:19
  someone else. But continuing to say, I love
• 20:22
  this other person because obviously I didn't enough you
• 20:25
  know, and so I don't understand people not cutting it off, I
• 20:29
  think it is like kind of like a sociopathic trait like in people
• 20:34
  where they can, just forget that this person has emotions and are
• 20:38
  getting hurt while they're doing something.
• 20:39
  That is pleasing them. You know, I think a big part of
• 20:42
  it is this feeling and like, I touched on it earlier, but like
• 20:45
  this idea of feeling wanted, you know, because as human beings we
• 20:49
  forget that like You know, we have egos and as much as we
• 20:53
  might say, oh, I don't have a new go, everyone has an ego.
• 20:55
  Of course, it's whether or not you choose to be humble and you
• 20:59
  choose to kind of just be like that.
• 21:00
  This is BS. This is silly.
• 21:02
  You know, there's like if people give me compliments or if
• 21:04
  someone goes our hey, you're gorgeous, you're good-looking,
• 21:07
  you're this, you're that. I'm like, okay, that's nice to
• 21:09
  hear, but like, that's not going to change my perception of
• 21:12
  myself. I'm still just going to be like,
• 21:14
  like this. Yeah, and a lot of people, I
• 21:17
  think when they're in a relationship, particularly the
• 21:19
  relationship is not. Not going well and someone else
• 21:22
  is showing them attention than I could.
• 21:24
  I like this. I like this.
• 21:25
  I like it. And it's not even like, it's so
• 21:27
  childish like it's a drug. It's literally a drug, like,
• 21:31
  give me more. I gotta get this phone number,
• 21:32
  so then they can tell me, you know, even more often or
• 21:35
  whatever. Yeah.
• 21:37
  It's, it's yeah, it's definitely something where you have to
• 21:40
  remember that. You also once had that with the
• 21:43
  person you are with. It's just a person with them for
• 21:46
  so long but it doesn't feel like butterflies or whatever.
• 21:50
  I mean, When I get because I have been locked in the house
• 21:54
  for like, you know, since covid. But I also during covid acquired
• 21:57
  like in the past two years, I acquired three children, three
• 22:01
  more children. So now I have four and then
• 22:04
  covid happened. So I literally don't leave the
• 22:06
  house at all and so and then I also had gone from like losing a
• 22:10
  lot of weight to having two children and now anyways, so now
• 22:15
  when I go to the gas station and the guy hits on me or something,
• 22:18
  I was like come back and I tell my husband like, Oh my God,
• 22:21
  that's it. And so we kind of like have a
• 22:27
  running joke of like somebody found me attractive again.
• 22:30
  He didn't pass another thing as well like your husband's coolest
• 22:33
  shit for being like. That's why, because there's so
• 22:35
  many guys out there that be like other girls.
• 22:38
  Looking at you, let it's a good man.
• 22:40
  If other guys are looking at your woman and vice versa is
• 22:44
  that means that like you know you look at it enough to look at
• 22:47
  and here's the thing, like the fact that you come back and
• 22:49
  you're like, hey these guys check me out and it made me feel
• 22:52
  good, like you should be happy for your wife and be like, yeah,
• 22:54
  you know. Good I'm happy.
• 22:55
  Happy for goods. Like you look great and then
• 22:57
  right. But here's the first, dude, I've
• 23:00
  been with the could be like that, you know, he's very like
• 23:04
  humble and for me, it's like this thing.
• 23:07
  I'm trying to teach myself to be more like him because I'm like a
• 23:11
  girl hearted, one of your Facebook chats.
• 23:14
  I gotta go see her profile. How do you even know this
• 23:16
  person? What's her mutual friends and
• 23:18
  like, I'm still like that and he's like, what have I done to
• 23:21
  make you feel like that? And I always told him, I'm like,
• 23:24
  it's not that you've done. Thing, it's literally that
• 23:26
  nobody has ever proven that. That's not going to be the end
• 23:29
  of our relationship. Like, I've always been with a
• 23:31
  cheater and so definition of insanity is expecting something
• 23:37
  different than what you've always.
• 23:39
  You know, scene, it's hard to give that up and like have full
• 23:43
  trust in somebody after things like that happen.
• 23:45
  I think without State well, I'm going to State the obvious.
• 23:48
  So apologies, but like, obviously trust is the
• 23:51
  foundation of any relationship and every time you enter one you
• 23:55
  kind of gotta just be like, Even though I feel like I shouldn't
• 24:01
  trust anyone, I'm going to trust you and just please don't break
• 24:05
  my heart and, and it's like that, you know, because it this
• 24:09
  whole social media thing, like, you know, like what I do.
• 24:13
  Okay. When I'm single, you know,
• 24:15
  obviously, like right now I talk to anyone.
• 24:17
  I want all the time, do whatever I want, right?
• 24:20
  Right. When I'm in a relationship, I do
• 24:23
  out of respect for the other person.
• 24:24
  I don't say anything about it, but I do kind of, you know, I
• 24:27
  won't maybe go. On on a coffee date with another
• 24:31
  woman or something. Because I just feel that that's
• 24:33
  inappropriate and like at the same time, I don't, I don't
• 24:36
  think they would it be anything wrong with that, in the sense
• 24:38
  that like I could just sit platonically and have a coffee
• 24:41
  with another woman, and it means nothing, but it's just like,
• 24:45
  Because I would feel uncomfortable if the reverse was
• 24:48
  happening, right? And I just feel like, you know,
• 24:51
  what's the point like, why do that?
• 24:53
  And like that's more the sort of thing I'd want to be doing with
• 24:56
  my significant other not, you know?
• 24:59
  Because it's quite an intimate thing.
• 25:00
  It is. Yeah but at the same time if I'm
• 25:02
  now, you know, with friends work people, I don't know, maybe I'm
• 25:07
  doing like a work project and it happens to be a woman there, you
• 25:09
  know, I do acting for example, right?
• 25:12
  So if the other person is a woman, I'm going to act with
• 25:16
  her, right? I don't expect my partner to be
• 25:18
  able jealous and funny reich's. I expect that they might say
• 25:21
  something fair enough, but at the same time it's like look,
• 25:24
  this is this is work, that was creeping around and like, yeah.
• 25:29
  And that's the thing, like I personally need someone who and
• 25:32
  this is something I've really paid attention to like 2:30.
• 25:34
  Haven't been single for God knows how long now.
• 25:38
  I think, I think about this. I'm like, no the next person
• 25:40
  they got to be, they got to trust me because I can't deal
• 25:43
  with jealous types. I can't deal with that, like,
• 25:45
  I'm Member, I've dated people in the past where they just
• 25:48
  constantly or like, who's this, girl?
• 25:50
  Why did you say this to this person blahblahblah?
• 25:53
  And it's like, look, I'm not a cheater.
• 25:55
  I'm not that type of person. Yeah.
• 25:57
  You don't trust me then, that's your problem.
• 25:59
  You know? Like either you trust me and
• 26:01
  we're together and we're a unit or you don't trust me and we end
• 26:04
  this now, like, I can't be dealing with just jealous types,
• 26:08
  you know. And I understand this is a trait
• 26:10
  of people, but like, just keep that away from me, you know?
• 26:15
  That's this is my two cents on that for.
• 26:18
  No, I feel you and it take that. I feel like it takes a long time
• 26:21
  and maybe not for everybody. But for me, I mean now I'm 33
• 26:26
  and I feel like in my 20s I was that chick like I was Psycho I'm
• 26:30
  still kind of psycho sometimes. I'm not gonna lie but I think
• 26:34
  it's also like knowing your kind of psycho and being able to like
• 26:37
  admit it and then you can kind of work on the things that you
• 26:41
  know you're psycho about and hopefully your significant other
• 26:44
  will like, whoa. Walk with you through that
• 26:46
  passive like, you know, taking that out of you.
• 26:49
  But if you're not worth it to begin with and nobody's going to
• 26:52
  put that much effort into it. And so, it's a trait that is not
• 26:56
  cute. It's ugly.
• 26:57
  I know that. And I think the difference with
• 27:00
  you though is that like, you've at least kind of your like,
• 27:03
  aware of it. You're like a, hey, this is
• 27:05
  something about me that I'm working on and you're working on
• 27:07
  it, right? And it's like, so I imagine
• 27:09
  every time you kind of get in that situation you probably
• 27:11
  like, all right, maybe I'm being a little bit.
• 27:14
  Crazy right now, maybe I need to I roll this back a bit.
• 27:17
  Maybe I should just talk to my partner.
• 27:18
  This doesn't need to be a shouting argument.
• 27:20
  This could be a conversation, you know, right and stuff like
• 27:24
  that, you know? Like don't build this scenario
• 27:26
  up in your head that he's doing all this stuff.
• 27:28
  You haven't even you know, proven yet which is what I don't
• 27:32
  know. If it's a woman thing, I don't
• 27:33
  know. But it is so easy to just like,
• 27:36
  see like you guys. You look so cute or something
• 27:40
  and take it to like a level of like they slept together and now
• 27:45
  they're solving Still I don't even know how it goes from that
• 27:49
  to that but your head just was like, maybe it's the hormones, I
• 27:52
  don't know. But I remember, right?
• 27:55
  I was dating someone one time. And okay, so we'd watched with,
• 28:00
  basically, this this, we were at University and this other person
• 28:05
  was like, they wrote like an article in sunlight satirical
• 28:10
  University magazine. I don't know, whatever.
• 28:13
  It was a funny article. We both read it.
• 28:15
  Both laughed about it. We both spoke about it right
• 28:17
  now. The author happened to be a
• 28:19
  female. Someone we both knew, right and
• 28:23
  I knew this girl before the guy I was dating.
• 28:26
  And so I reached out to this, this girl in messenger and I was
• 28:30
  just like, oh hey, that was a funny article bubbler, right?
• 28:34
  That was it, that's literally it.
• 28:38
  But from that like the girl that was dating at the time, went
• 28:41
  crazy about it like she just and I shit you not she would not
• 28:46
  drop that for years Sheena and it and like that was the
• 28:50
  beginning of of just never trust in me ever.
• 28:53
  And like it got to a point where and I had to I only realize this
• 28:58
  afterwards but like, when I was dating her, It was kind of a,
• 29:03
  like, I got like so paranoid, because she every time we were
• 29:08
  out walking together, she would go into a mount massive shouting
• 29:12
  match with me and say, you're looking at these girls.
• 29:14
  You're looking at this, girl, you're looking at that guy?
• 29:16
  Oh, no. And in the beginning, I would
• 29:17
  try to be like, hey, like I'm not and then I would argue with
• 29:22
  her and be like, I'm not, like, leave it and then I just gave up
• 29:25
  in the end. Yeah, I literally, yeah, I gave
• 29:28
  up as I just can't convince you and like, I'm not gonna Waste,
• 29:32
  any more of my energy trying to do so, and but literally, it
• 29:34
  created like a complex in my head.
• 29:37
  Where, every time we were out together, I would think this.
• 29:42
  I'd feel physically sick. Yeah.
• 29:43
  No. I would literally like look at
• 29:44
  the floor and stuff and like it's only like half to having
• 29:50
  not been together for years and been single for years that I've
• 29:53
  sort of sat back. And I thought back to those
• 29:56
  days, I'm on my damn. That was like, really, really
• 30:00
  bad. Really messed up.
• 30:02
  Like, I can't be around that again.
• 30:05
  You know, no, one of my things was definitely like because I
• 30:09
  always grew up being friends with guys.
• 30:11
  Like I didn't trust girls girls, or mean, you know?
• 30:14
  I was heavier growing up and so I had a lot of guy friends not
• 30:18
  boyfriends, you know? And like, every boyfriend, I
• 30:23
  would get After High School, they'd be like, oh, not
• 30:26
  comfortable with my best friend. His name is Kevin and we did, we
• 30:30
  had like a little fling. And then we were like better as
• 30:33
  friends and always stayed friends after that.
• 30:36
  But no guy could like handle me being friends with a guy that I
• 30:40
  had slept with before and even as much as I would convince them
• 30:44
  like we literally dated for two months and we were both like
• 30:46
  screw this. Let's just be friends again they
• 30:49
  just could not fathom like that, that's something and I don't you
• 30:52
  know, carry more feelings for it until I got with Earl and he was
• 30:57
  like now he's friends with the guy and I'm like, this is what
• 31:00
  I've wanted the whole time, you know, Like, I clearly don't like
• 31:03
  him like that. I want him in my life because
• 31:05
  he's my best friend. But but if it were the other
• 31:09
  shoe on the other foot and he had a girl that he had slept
• 31:12
  with the, he wanted to be best friends with.
• 31:14
  I could find that very very hard to deal with I can I can
• 31:18
  understand that feeling like I felt it before.
• 31:22
  Yeah I'm gonna pretend like I'm this big mature guy, you know,
• 31:25
  I've been jealous before in the tile, I've done City and crazy
• 31:28
  stuff but now I'm at that point where I'm probably more like
• 31:30
  your husband where I like It would bother me.
• 31:32
  But I'd be like, you know what? Like I love this girl.
• 31:36
  I'm just, you know, this is minor whatever and like it comes
• 31:40
  back to that trusting we were talking about like can you trust
• 31:44
  your partner? You know that there's never
• 31:46
  going to be anything with that other guy June and I mean and
• 31:49
  it's like particularly when you just make things logical and
• 31:53
  you're like, I'm going to trust this person and I'm going to
• 31:56
  leave it at that. I'm going to push this to one
• 31:58
  side and if you look at the other variables like okay so
• 32:00
  they had a fling when they Were like 17 or whatever like
• 32:04
  General. I mean like, who cares didn't I
• 32:07
  mean honestly yeah exactly exactly.
• 32:11
  I trust this is I would say the most important thing in a
• 32:16
  relationship above all else. If you appreciate if you can't
• 32:18
  do that then you don't have a relationship simple.
• 32:21
  That's what I've always said is like and I tell my kids to I'm
• 32:23
  like you cannot grow up and be a liar.
• 32:27
  Like you just can't do it because I'm your mom.
• 32:29
  And if I taught you that that's Okay, I could not live with
• 32:33
  myself because it's just a trait that is so unforgivable to me,
• 32:38
  like to be just a consistent liar.
• 32:40
  Nobody trusts you and your life is going to suck, you're going
• 32:43
  to be alone for a long long time because nobody wants that in
• 32:46
  their life. You know.
• 32:47
  And trust is built on honesty and so if you can't be honest
• 32:50
  with the person you're with, what's the point?
• 32:52
  You know there's yeah, that was the thing about lying as well,
• 32:56
  is that like, because I learned this, like, I, I must The sort
• 33:02
  of person that has that very strong I suppose like morals in
• 33:06
  my life ever since I was very young.
• 33:09
  You know I really kind of knew the difference between right and
• 33:12
  wrong and what I mean by that is that like my conscience sits
• 33:16
  heavy on my shoulders. So if I've done something wrong
• 33:19
  and I've done some bad stuff in my life, you know, nothing too
• 33:23
  crazy but you know it's tough where I'm like I regret it and
• 33:26
  I'm like I shouldn't have done that and I always remember the
• 33:29
  feed and I had at the time was like This is wrong that what I'm
• 33:33
  doing right now is wrong and this will sit on my conscience
• 33:36
  and I'm so happy to say that in the last I'd say ever since I
• 33:40
  was like a teenager or whatever, II stopped lying, I just did not
• 33:45
  lie anymore. And I felt like this freedom and
• 33:50
  I'm a ah, this is nice. This is what like it must feel
• 33:53
  like to be a good person and you're like because the thing is
• 33:57
  it's like the Classic Spiderman Spider analogy, you know, you
• 34:01
  build a website. Of lies.
• 34:03
  And then you get caught out. You forget the lies that you've
• 34:07
  made, because you lie so much. This is what Compulsive Liars
• 34:10
  are like. Yeah, they forget.
• 34:12
  And then they because they lie so much.
• 34:14
  They forget themselves. What is the truth?
• 34:16
  They don't know anymore because they're just almost there
• 34:20
  blurring the lines between what is real, and what is fake?
• 34:23
  And it's really messed that it's, and I think it always
• 34:27
  comes down to laziness, you know, it's much easier to lie
• 34:31
  and then Just whatever, get out the way, right?
• 34:33
  But like the worst thing that happened, if you tell the truth
• 34:36
  is that you're upset someone, right?
• 34:39
  But they'll always respect you for having told the truth,
• 34:42
  right? Not, I mean and if you tell the
• 34:45
  truth, it means that people can trust.
• 34:47
  You means that people can rely on you.
• 34:50
  It makes your life easier, you know the relationships.
• 34:53
  Yeah, like it's just, it's just good all around.
• 34:56
  Like, and I've always found that generally speaking the harder
• 35:00
  path in life. Always tends to work out in
• 35:04
  terms of generating the best value for you.
• 35:07
  You know what I mean? If you take the easy path in
• 35:09
  life like short-term gains but long-term losses and vice versa
• 35:15
  for, you know, you got to put the work in.
• 35:17
  You gotta not lie. Just tell the truth and it's so
• 35:22
  much easier. Like, for me, like you said,
• 35:24
  it's like this freedom of because I've always been kind
• 35:27
  of, I almost feel like accused of being an open book because
• 35:31
  Always talked about it. Like it was a bad thing that I
• 35:34
  just don't have a filter and I will tell you that My kids
• 35:39
  smeared poop on the wall and tell you.
• 35:41
  You know that the most embarrassing thing that happened
• 35:43
  to me when I was two or five or whatever, you know, it's just I
• 35:46
  don't care because to me that's the way that we build a
• 35:49
  relationship is like, you know, this about me.
• 35:51
  I know this about you, I don't feel like you're holding back
• 35:54
  and same, you know, from me. And so I felt like I was being
• 35:58
  accused of being, you know, open for a long time.
• 36:01
  And finally, I'm like, maybe your guys are the ones with the
• 36:04
  problem is not being open, you know?
• 36:06
  Because for me, I've Relationships for 10-plus years.
• 36:10
  I have friends from kindergarten, you know, and
• 36:13
  stuff like that. Where as I see people that have
• 36:15
  no relationships that last that long that aren't open with
• 36:19
  people or are embarrassed of things and I was raised on
• 36:22
  honestly in a home where they're like, don't let the neighbors
• 36:25
  know kind of people, you know? And to me I'm just like, fuck
• 36:29
  that we're going to let everybody know about are you
• 36:31
  know, because everybody's human we all have mistakes.
• 36:33
  We all do weird stuff. And like, the more you keep that
• 36:36
  to yourself the more alone Nobody feels instead of letting
• 36:40
  it out and somebody else being like, oh crap, I do that.
• 36:43
  That's weird. But at least I'm not the only
• 36:45
  one, you know, or whatever. And so I think that's part of
• 36:49
  like our problem is society. To is just this whole like I
• 36:52
  want to look good to everybody else and now especially being
• 36:56
  locked in our houses. We can do that.
• 36:58
  Like, on Facebook, we can build this little perfect creation
• 37:01
  while in our home. It's also like just, you know,
• 37:04
  crumbling down around us. And so I think I don't know
• 37:08
  about you. But podcasting for me has
• 37:09
  changed that because I've gotten to meet people, even being
• 37:12
  locked up. We're still like socializing and
• 37:15
  not alone, you know. Yeah, no, I completely agree
• 37:19
  with you. I think the biggest thing that I
• 37:23
  enjoy about podcasting is just meeting people from around the
• 37:27
  world, different learning things from different people, helps
• 37:32
  change my perspective on life, helps me to grow.
• 37:35
  Yeah I'm getting a lot for me, I enjoy it first and foremost, But
• 37:39
  yeah, man, I just I could talk to you all day.
• 37:41
  There's so many things right there.
• 37:42
  Like for example, what you were saying with, you know, giving
• 37:47
  information to people like I'm very and I've learned this as
• 37:51
  I've been grown up. I think this is something I've
• 37:52
  just learned in my 20s, but like if you get meet those, people
• 37:58
  that like our asking, you a lot of questions, but they never
• 38:03
  talk about themselves. I run for the hills with that I
• 38:07
  don't because I'm Like eight takes a lot for me to trust
• 38:11
  people. And that's not to say that like,
• 38:13
  I'm and I'm trusting person, but it's like, you know, I'll be
• 38:17
  open about things, I'm comfortable being open with.
• 38:20
  Obviously, I have YouTuber do podcasting, like I share a lot
• 38:23
  of my life but there's a lot of stuff.
• 38:24
  I don't share that only very few people on this Earth actually
• 38:30
  know. And that's because of
• 38:32
  experiences because things have been used against me and, you
• 38:38
  know, I think You can, you get a Vibe like a lot of people in
• 38:41
  life, don't trust their intuition and you absolutely
• 38:43
  should, if you get a gut feeling, trust your gut feeling,
• 38:46
  because that person is up to no good.
• 38:49
  Or if they're someone that's going to screw you over your got
• 38:53
  a probably tell you before you know the facts of the situation
• 38:57
  tell you you know it's like for example I was watching this is
• 39:03
  really off topic but that's good.
• 39:05
  I don't know I'm having fun here.
• 39:06
  Yeah I was watching a documentary the other Today
• 39:09
  about this major fraud that happened in the UK.
• 39:13
  So we have we also have Who Wants To Be A Millionaire like
• 39:17
  UK version and it was very popular in the early 2000s,
• 39:20
  right. And one of the winners was a guy
• 39:24
  called met major in grow or Charles Ingram something like
• 39:28
  that. Oh yeah, you know about that?
• 39:30
  Okay, I've heard of him. So those who don't know, there
• 39:32
  was a guy who basically went on to the program and got up to a
• 39:38
  million. In but basically, he scanned it,
• 39:40
  he committed fraud, hence, major fraud, and the way that he did
• 39:43
  this, which actually is kind of clever, but it was a kind of
• 39:46
  stupid is that? Basically, he was obviously in
• 39:50
  the chair, there was his wife in the audience and then there was
• 39:53
  another contestant who was sitting in the the closest row I
• 39:58
  guess to the to the main stage and they devised a system where
• 40:03
  basically the contestant would cough every time the answer the
• 40:08
  globe. Yeah, so the guy would go he
• 40:10
  would go like oh maybe it's Athens but yeah I don't know,
• 40:13
  then it could be Berlin and the guy would be like and at what
• 40:17
  happened at one point they got as crazy as like because they
• 40:20
  got stuck on a, those points in the show, we're like their sit,
• 40:23
  their plan was kind of failing or like there was an issue and
• 40:26
  the guy, literally coughed know, at one point it was like, oh no.
• 40:30
  Oh my God, it was ridiculous. But anyway, the reason I bring
• 40:34
  this up and I really recommend everyone goes out and checks
• 40:37
  this documentary out because it's just Fascinating, the
• 40:40
  reason I brought this up is that when you watch the documentary
• 40:43
  and you, you talk you listen to all the producers and the floor
• 40:47
  managers and the people talking about what it was like that day
• 40:51
  at the very beginning of the show, they knew something was
• 40:54
  wrong. But before they even knew about
• 40:57
  the coughing thing or anything, they just had a Vibe.
• 41:01
  They had they had a feeling something was off and that is
• 41:05
  what I'm talking about. This idea that you can kind of
• 41:07
  feel that there's a Problem, like, I don't know, a
• 41:10
  fluctuation in the energy of the room, a bad Vibe.
• 41:13
  This is the reason that sometimes when someone walks in
• 41:15
  a room and the energy changes, that's why.
• 41:18
  Because we as humans, tap into that, we know we can feel it.
• 41:22
  You know? I mean, it's like, that's why
• 41:23
  people say, oh, I got a bad vibe from him.
• 41:25
  It's not just a random thing that people make up.
• 41:28
  It's a legitimate thing. Yeah, no, let's go to try and
• 41:32
  screw you over. You can feel it, it's like
• 41:35
  literally ingrained it us, so follow it.
• 41:38
  Yeah. I got to say like, ever since
• 41:40
  I've tapped into that, and I've just opened myself up to that.
• 41:42
  It's really helped me with friendships relationships.
• 41:45
  Steering away from the wrong people, you know, by a bit of a
• 41:50
  lone wolf these days weirdly enough.
• 41:53
  Like I grew up as an extrovert and became an introvert, which
• 41:56
  is, you know, I feel the same way.
• 41:57
  I'm still extroverted I guess within like, if you get Ever
• 42:02
  involved in the Discord Community, I can totally like
• 42:05
  introduce you to a ton of people that are super cool but that's
• 42:08
  like My extrovert, but I still get to be like an introvert
• 42:11
  because I'm like, okay, that's my happy part, you know, but
• 42:14
  like on the inside, sometimes I'm really frustrated but I
• 42:16
  don't want to like, give that to everybody else because I want
• 42:18
  to, you know, keep everybody else happy.
• 42:20
  But I was like, extreme, extrovert.
• 42:23
  And now I'm like, I don't want to go anywhere.
• 42:25
  I want in my house and I know it's because I like, also, I'm
• 42:29
  like I'm not taking for kids anywhere in this world because
• 42:33
  they act a fool right now. And they don't listen to me, but
• 42:36
  I am the same. Yeah, I became an introvert.
• 42:39
  Kind of but it's like the extrovert is still trying to
• 42:41
  like burst out of me all the time.
• 42:43
  And I think that's also podcasting has done is allowed
• 42:46
  my like my, extrovert to get out and then I can go back and be
• 42:50
  normal and do my normal stuff, or whatever.
• 42:53
  Let's bring it back to focus thing.
• 42:57
  Now I just it's just sometimes that I'll have a guest on the
• 42:59
  show and we go off and so many times.
• 43:01
  It's so fun. You got it, you got to indulges
• 43:04
  you got, oh, I love going up, I'm handed.
• 43:05
  It's hard for me to stay on one topic, actually.
• 43:08
  Now one of the questions I asked you before, but before we went
• 43:11
  off on our massive tangent was who are some of the most
• 43:15
  memorable guest you've had on the show.
• 43:16
  So, tell us how should I totally forgot.
• 43:19
  That's why I started talking about being a hairstylist as I
• 43:22
  was telling that story, I was like, what was his question?
• 43:24
  What was that was? That was my fault because I knew
• 43:27
  that you brought up that story because you were leading into
• 43:29
  it. But then it's always like, you
• 43:31
  know what? I'll just ask her about this
• 43:33
  because this is fun. Let's see what?
• 43:34
  No, I'm glad you did because I was about to be like, what was
• 43:36
  the original question? I did that so much on a show I
• 43:40
  was on earlier and I'm like, I need to, I'm so add and stop.
• 43:44
  I need to start writing people, you know, things down when
• 43:46
  people ask. So, because I was a hairdresser,
• 43:49
  I met a client that as she became my OBGYN.
• 43:55
  So she delivered my last two kids which was crazy and then we
• 44:01
  had to record it our first episode and it was around the
• 44:05
  debates between Trump and Biden. So it's the first debate and for
• 44:10
  some reason that episode got into talking about the George
• 44:13
  Floyd stuff and but it was like for white people of us, you
• 44:18
  know, we're all for white people talking about it and Billy my
• 44:21
  co-host had said something that was kind of like controversial
• 44:25
  and I was like, okay, let's stop it here.
• 44:27
  And I'm going to go find someone of color that can be on our next
• 44:31
  episode to like, but I wanted them to be of color and able to
• 44:36
  represent that like You know, not like not, I don't know how
• 44:42
  to make it sound like good but I didn't want it to be like what a
• 44:45
  racist person would stereotype a person of color.
• 44:49
  As you know, I wanted to be somebody that was a person of
• 44:52
  color that had a lot of knowledge of the history behind
• 44:55
  why they were fighting the BLM stuff and what happened with
• 44:59
  George Floyd and could represent that and give it a good
• 45:02
  platform. So I had asked my OB, if she my
• 45:06
  client Marcia, if she wanted to be on and she was like, oh, Oh
• 45:08
  no, I have a speech impediment and did it and I don't want to
• 45:12
  do it and I'm like, no, you don't.
• 45:13
  But, okay, she goes. Why don't you ask my sister who?
• 45:17
  I also used to cut her hair, but she moved of California.
• 45:20
  So I asked her and she's like, I can't do it that night, but ask
• 45:24
  my other sister Lorna and I was like, yeah, I know.
• 45:29
  They're big, they're actually they're from the islands.
• 45:32
  Oh yeah, man, love island people.
• 45:34
  Yes, like st. Thomas or something like that.
• 45:37
  But So Lorna is a writer, she's a writer, and California and I
• 45:46
  lie. She wrote for Get Him to the
• 45:49
  Greek. For Dexter.
• 45:54
  She was working on the show All-American, which just got put
• 45:57
  on Netflix and her husband wasn't her and her husband are
• 46:00
  in Canada right now because he's shooting.
• 46:02
  I think he produces the new Star Trek show and so yeah.
• 46:08
  I was like Oh shit. Oh my God.
• 46:10
  You know, I've never met this person but I've heard all about
• 46:12
  her and I'm like oh my God, oh my God.
• 46:14
  So I just start texting her. She's like the most real person
• 46:17
  I've ever. She was like well I'm not doing
• 46:19
  anything now. If you guys want to jump on and
• 46:21
  I'm like oh shit. Oh my God.
• 46:23
  Okay and we had like I think we had two or three episodes with
• 46:27
  her on it because every time she would get on and be two to three
• 46:31
  hours of us just like getting into it and I was like are you
• 46:34
  sure you don't want to be a co-host on the show?
• 46:36
  Because you are so amazing. And I was just like, She was so
• 46:39
  cool. And like she would talk about
• 46:42
  stars that you've seen, you know, on TV forever, that she's
• 46:45
  actually met in real life. And I was just like, ahh.
• 46:48
  So that was really neat. And she was just so humbled that
• 46:51
  it made it even neater that I would say was probably, like, my
• 46:55
  favorite big person we had on and that kind of big but small
• 46:59
  because nobody really thinks about the writers and producers
• 47:02
  well, producers more. But I feel like the writers kind
• 47:04
  of get like, you know, they don't get a whole lot of like
• 47:07
  credit and Definitely not like a fan base.
• 47:10
  I don't feel like so and then the second biggest, I would say
• 47:16
  is recently. We had Lindsey Graham from the
• 47:20
  wonder--i podcast All American Scandal, the mysterious mr.
• 47:25
  Epstein. He's did Wicked elections and
• 47:30
  now he's doing something else. He's big.
• 47:32
  I mean, he like he had posted on Reddit and ask me anything post.
• 47:38
  Whatever. And one of the podcast things
• 47:40
  and he's like 99 million plus downloads.
• 47:43
  Ask me anything and I was like, oh hell yeah.
• 47:46
  I'm gonna go on here and just see like and he ended up being
• 47:49
  pretty cool. It was weird to have him on
• 47:52
  because he's very much to me. Like he represents a brand
• 47:56
  right? So he can't he can't speculate a
• 47:59
  lot on things that mainstream media would deem controversial,
• 48:05
  right? So he was kind of like having
• 48:06
  mainstream media there. Which whatever.
• 48:11
  I mean, we always need like the thing to go against what were,
• 48:14
  you know, talking about. But I was like, man, I just want
• 48:18
  you to like, let loose and like, do a what-if with me, just do a
• 48:21
  what-if like, and like, nobody's listening, you know?
• 48:24
  But I know that he, you know, has like I said, reputation, do
• 48:27
  you know, uphold and so, we did an episode on is hate crime,
• 48:32
  legislation legal, and obviously his stance was of course it is,
• 48:37
  and it's necessary. Whereas we were debating,
• 48:39
  whether it goes against free speech and stuff like that.
• 48:43
  When, you know, you can't really prove a thought is a certain way
• 48:47
  or not you know. So it was a good episode.
• 48:50
  But I would say Lauren, I was my favorite, you know, and I look
• 48:54
  forward to obviously getting more people on but I kind of
• 48:57
  like meeting like the real people and like recycling
• 49:01
  guests. Like we have a lot that just
• 49:03
  will come on a couple times. You know, different topics and
• 49:07
  stuff and they enjoy it. And To me that's like having a
• 49:10
  client with hairdressing you know where I'm actually getting
• 49:12
  to repeat. See them and we keep getting to
• 49:15
  know each other. So that's what I really like
• 49:17
  about the community. I wish that the bigger people
• 49:19
  would come on again and again, but I know they have busy lives
• 49:23
  and you know, my 50 listeners don't matter.
• 49:29
  Community voice matters. The community of the thing that
• 49:32
  bothers me, you know, a lot of people ask me.
• 49:35
  How many subscribers do you have on YouTube?
• 49:37
  How many people are listening? Whose it is one bothers me.
• 49:40
  Who's the biggest person has ever been?
• 49:42
  Who's the most famous person? Okay.
• 49:44
  Yeah. I haven't had any celebrities.
• 49:46
  I had, you know, I haven't had any big personalities but you
• 49:50
  know what? Like I've had some excellent
• 49:52
  episodes and great conversations with people and you know what,
• 49:55
  it's it's not about who's Most it because even if I would have
• 50:00
  celebrities on the show that doesn't guarantee that the
• 50:02
  conversations are going to be good.
• 50:04
  I'll do my very best like much but it was kind of
• 50:06
  disappointing, that's them. One of them, you will, you're
• 50:09
  right that some people have these restrictions on what you
• 50:11
  can ask the. Like I know that if I would have
• 50:14
  certain people on there on the show there's going to be
• 50:18
  restrictions as far as what you can ask them.
• 50:20
  Like I've heard the stories about how like you often have to
• 50:22
  talk to their PR manager in the pr manager.
• 50:24
  Be like no you know, you can't ask them about this divorce.
• 50:27
  They had you And ask him about this thing and it's like, well,
• 50:30
  what the fuck can I ask him about?
• 50:31
  Like yeah, whatever comes up in conversation and I know nothing
• 50:35
  about them. It's just I don't like to do
• 50:37
  them. No one of the biggest things I
• 50:39
  do is like, look, I have my questions, I do my research on
• 50:42
  my guests, but like, you know, I'm hoping that the conversation
• 50:46
  will go in different directions naturally, because that's the
• 50:48
  most interesting thing to listen to like when I look back over
• 50:52
  the 70 episodes I've done, that's correct.
• 50:58
  It's like wow. But yeah I look back and I think
• 51:01
  like this was a good episode because we had good chemistry
• 51:05
  and like yeah, like I know what you mean.
• 51:07
  Like sometimes you have someone on your like, this will probably
• 51:10
  be the only time and then you have other people and you're
• 51:12
  like and it's nothing against that person.
• 51:14
  It's just that you don't necessarily have like As Much
• 51:17
  Chemistry or, you know, maybe this is just a one-off and
• 51:20
  that's all you need and other people.
• 51:22
  Yeah, you have them on regularly like genuinely, there are people
• 51:25
  that come on this, show that like I've had them on several
• 51:29
  times, and I don't even have a script.
• 51:31
  Like I might drop some points down just in case.
• 51:33
  But yeah, the time we just sit and we talk and boom.
• 51:36
  That's two hours already. Nothing.
• 51:39
  Exactly, exactly. And that's the best thing is
• 51:41
  when it just like keeps going and like somebody has like,
• 51:44
  yeah, I'm usually the person that's like, okay guys, I'm the
• 51:47
  editor. So I also need you guys to stop
• 51:49
  talking, but let's do a part 2 because this is awesome, but I
• 51:53
  don't want to edit, you know, three hours of content or
• 51:55
  whatever. But I love when it goes like
• 51:58
  That because then it's just like friends hanging out in person
• 52:01
  you know and you don't have to stop the conversation and like
• 52:04
  you said you can have them back on and it's not like I gotta
• 52:07
  come up with, you know what, our topic is going to be.
• 52:09
  It's literally like say what happened today and then it just
• 52:13
  goes off on a, you know, whatever.
• 52:16
  Well one thing I've started to do as well, now which feels
• 52:18
  weird for me but if the conversation is going well
• 52:21
  enough, I don't actually end up asking all of my questions.
• 52:25
  Hmm. Because I think about like Well,
• 52:28
  my main goal with every episode is the same goal with
• 52:31
  everything. I do.
• 52:32
  It's like I want this to be the best possible thing that I can
• 52:35
  do. Hopefully to Trump everything
• 52:37
  else I've done before and you know you're not you're not
• 52:39
  always going to hit a home run but at the same time you could
• 52:43
  put the maximum amount of effort in you know that for instance I
• 52:46
  was downloading. This will sound weird but I'm a
• 52:50
  bit of a 0 U 0 CD guys. So like I was downloading all of
• 52:53
  my old podcasts onto a hard drive because I just haven't
• 52:57
  either smart. That's all right.
• 53:00
  And I was, you know, I was looking through all of them and
• 53:03
  it was kind of weird feeling because I was like, wow, like it
• 53:06
  has developed quite a lot. And, and one of the biggest
• 53:08
  things I noticed is that I've become a lot more confident in
• 53:13
  terms of how I speak to my guests and how I talk.
• 53:16
  But another thing is like and I don't like the sound of my own
• 53:19
  voice. Anyway, Mike, I just hate it but
• 53:21
  like I found that I can. It's much easier to listen to
• 53:25
  myself than it was before like for even Little Things.
• 53:28
  Things like the intro I would do for the bug course that before
• 53:31
  it was like hello is focused and I'm like oh I'm sure in a year
• 53:40
  from now. Bobby.
• 53:41
  Look at what I'm doing now. I'm gonna go cringe.
• 53:43
  But in that moment you do the best that you can do and you
• 53:47
  constantly try and improve and like I don't know like I listen
• 53:50
  back to myself now and it sounds a bit more almost polished a bit
• 53:54
  more. Like it's like a like an actual
• 53:57
  show as To just an audio podcast and that is kind of what I'm
• 54:01
  going for. But yeah, I'm always trying to
• 54:03
  think, like, I want this to be the best quality, they can
• 54:05
  possibly be so that if you're sitting listening to this and
• 54:08
  you're in your car or you're in some job and you know you want
• 54:12
  to kill an hour, excuse me and you want to like you want some
• 54:16
  entertainment for an hour or two or you want to like zone out for
• 54:20
  a bit. I want this to be actually worth
• 54:22
  tuning into and I'm one of the things I had to do as well.
• 54:26
  Was like actually take breaks between Podcasts and because I
• 54:30
  get, you know, I remember because I often will go to read
• 54:33
  it, you know if I'm empty for guests or you know because like
• 54:37
  sometimes people reach out and that's happening more and more
• 54:40
  now. But a lot of the time it'll be
• 54:42
  like I'll book him for like one month and then you know, they'll
• 54:47
  be overflowing to the next month and then I'll come back to read
• 54:49
  it after about two months to be like, hey guys, it's right.
• 54:55
  But it honestly depends but like that first month in I pretty
• 54:59
  much did I think I did like 20 podcasts or so, something like
• 55:03
  that of your own. Yeah everywhere.
• 55:06
  Wow. Oh, you know, I do podcast
• 55:08
  appearances as well. That's and I'll get to that.
• 55:12
  Yeah, I kind of went crazy with it and I was like, yeah, I was
• 55:15
  like, I can't because I didn't do everything myself as well.
• 55:18
  Yeah. So I know where you're coming
• 55:20
  from on that and I was like, oh, I can't do this.
• 55:22
  I'll actually end up getting sick of a do this as I.
• 55:25
  Okay, I'll do this for January and then in February, Okay,
• 55:28
  let's have some days but we don't have podcasts and we relax
• 55:31
  and we maybe do some other content, right?
• 55:33
  I did that. And now it's kind of fitting
• 55:36
  into a bit more of a rhythm it's like okay you know and I
• 55:39
  honestly think less is more, I genuinely believe in that and I
• 55:42
  think that like if you could do that, if you can establish that
• 55:46
  I think your audience appreciates a bit more as well
• 55:48
  because they look forward to it. Like I've even taken to
• 55:52
  sometimes on my YouTube Channel having days where I don't really
• 55:55
  see anything which is really are you are doing it every day.
• 55:58
  A oh dude. I've been uploading every day on
• 56:01
  three YouTube channels since Beginning of last year,
• 56:06
  something like that. Plus live streaming on Twitch
• 56:09
  plus other stuff. Yeah, that's wow.
• 56:12
  I'm gonna have to pick your brain about some stuff later.
• 56:15
  No problem. Yeah, I do.
• 56:16
  That's crazy. It's not something I planned.
• 56:18
  It just happened. Being unemployed helps really
• 56:24
  and having no kids, I would say. Yeah, yeah.
• 56:26
  Cuz I could, I could edit real quick weren't running around.
• 56:31
  Yeah. No, I totally get that.
• 56:32
  I know that commitments do, get in the way of things.
• 56:35
  So I fully appreciate that, but I think that, like, for me, one
• 56:40
  of the things I've realized is that you've kind of got to give
• 56:45
  your audience some breathing space and it's ironic that I
• 56:48
  said that because I released two videos on my YouTube channel.
• 56:50
  Today, I'm on the main Channel plus like I did.
• 56:55
  And as this new YouTube shorts algorithm on YouTube that I've
• 56:58
  been experimenting with on the second and third channels.
• 57:02
  And guess what I do is I make Make stuff Tick-Tock, or I clip
• 57:07
  up stuff from like music videos, I do, or something else right up
• 57:12
  to about a minute. And I upload it onto Tick, Tock,
• 57:16
  and sometimes onto Instagram, and then eventually on to these
• 57:20
  YouTube channels, right? And it's been smashing it.
• 57:24
  The views have been coming in the subscriber counts going up
• 57:27
  and everything. So there's something to this
• 57:29
  YouTube shorts algorithm as if you just like the stories and
• 57:32
  stuff on Instagram, I feel like I've seen No, YouTube shorts is
• 57:37
  totally different. I think I mentioned it on the
• 57:39
  podcast before but if not basically what it is I even
• 57:42
  doing a YouTube video about it. Actually check out my content.
• 57:51
  Basically, what it is is it's a separate YouTube algorithm and
• 57:56
  it's something they're trying to push because obviously every
• 57:58
  platform has their own equivalent, you know?
• 58:00
  So Instagram has reels as Facebook, this no Facebook
• 58:04
  doesn't Everything. Well I have a story.
• 58:06
  Facebook has stories. Yeah, but that's basically just
• 58:09
  copy from Instagram and if you can connect them and it's like,
• 58:12
  for instance, mind is connected. So if I upload onto Instagram,
• 58:16
  it'll post automatically on Facebook and I decide just don't
• 58:19
  care about Facebook Stories, because screw Facebook.
• 58:21
  Yeah, but at the same time this short stick is interesting
• 58:28
  because it's completely different and YouTube's never
• 58:30
  really done this before. You know they've constantly
• 58:32
  changed what they favor like from for a very long time.
• 58:35
  Ben, hey, your visits need videos need to be 10 minutes for
• 58:38
  adverse sponsors you know that's the optimum time because then we
• 58:41
  can put all these ads for out it so that's what you say.
• 58:43
  Yeah but now they're doing the separate thing and there's not
• 58:49
  actually that many people doing it.
• 58:52
  Okay? Interesting enough because I
• 58:53
  started uploading and I just curiously looked at the hashtag
• 58:57
  and there was only like 900 thousand videos or something
• 59:01
  like that or 900 thousand posts at the time.
• 59:03
  I was like, that seems Markab Lilo.
• 59:06
  Yeah, YouTube. And it's that maybe.
• 59:08
  And I think this is only been around since like September.
• 59:12
  And I've discovered a few things so and I can't speak for
• 59:16
  everyone here. But what I've discovered in my
• 59:18
  personal experiments is that music does.
• 59:21
  Well, if it's covers Originals, no one cares, but covers do well
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  skits in comedy stuff is like hit or miss.
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  My stuff is beginning to pick up the Like the skits is beginning
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  to pick up stuff. I'll know more in the next
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  couple of days, but it's kind of like really hit and miss.
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  I really can't give an exact on that podcast Clips.
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  Generally do very, very well but again, hitting this.
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  Yeah. And also the other thing that
• 59:52
  works. Oh, yeah, gaming.
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  Did I say gaming, I think it's a gaming gaming Clips, do well.
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  So I've seen like a lot of people do like you to like GTA
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  shorts. So be like 20, 30 seconds of
• 1:00:02
  like if you drive in the car with Mike, Go up to the house
• 1:00:05
  and do this. This is the clip ends and I'm
• 1:00:08
  like when I first saw that I was like Ah that's a bit weird but
• 1:00:11
  it's only 30 seconds but I guess it's kind of cool because it's
• 1:00:14
  just like a short thing didn't realize that it's a separate
• 1:00:17
  thing that people are doing on purpose to get loads of views.
• 1:00:21
  So do you don't pull on the second Channel.
• 1:00:25
  My goal was to get like 100 subscribers this year or
• 1:00:28
  something, right? And I started the year with 69th
• 1:00:32
  nice or yes. And Yeah, it's gone from like 69
• 1:00:36
  or 70 up to close to 100 now and that's that's the space of like
• 1:00:40
  a week or so. Wow.
• 1:00:43
  So there's something to this this shorts algorithm thing but
• 1:00:49
  you know, it's just a testing thing.
• 1:00:50
  Like my Approach in general with content creating is to just test
• 1:00:56
  everything. Just try, you know what I mean?
• 1:00:59
  Like I used to be really lazy about these things but I don't
• 1:01:01
  want to spend the time doing the thumbnails, and I don't want to
• 1:01:04
  spend the time. I'm doing this and screw that
• 1:01:06
  mentality. Just do it.
• 1:01:08
  Do the work and see what happens.
• 1:01:10
  Yeah, no, I agree. I think I see a lot of, well, I
• 1:01:15
  still had no people to that produce content where they don't
• 1:01:18
  edit at all, they just scrub the audio and they put it out there
• 1:01:22
  and it's like to me, that gives me so much anxiety, because the
• 1:01:26
  way I was taught like, I was taught by my husband who makes
• 1:01:29
  music as well, and he taught me on Fruity Loops.
• 1:01:33
  I don't know if you know that program but It's like it makes
• 1:01:37
  you you can be OCD is strapped on that allocated, so crazy.
• 1:01:43
  And then I switched audacity which is so much easier but to
• 1:01:49
  not edit something makes me like have this like because I feel
• 1:01:55
  like maybe like if you had patreons or something like that,
• 1:01:58
  they could get the uncensored. Like y'all went off on a tangent
• 1:02:02
  kind of thing, but if somebody is there too.
• 1:02:05
  Actually have the content that's labeled you know.
• 1:02:07
  The title says you're going to talk about this and then you go
• 1:02:12
  off on a tangent and then you come back it's like you have to
• 1:02:15
  expect them to stay through the tangent and then hope that you
• 1:02:19
  come back to the material. I don't know not editing, just
• 1:02:21
  freaks me out but I saw a lot of people saying they don't edit,
• 1:02:25
  they don't listen to their own stuff, you know?
• 1:02:27
  And I'm like how how can you do that?
• 1:02:30
  Because don't you want to put the most into your work to be
• 1:02:33
  able to you know, how are To grab people.
• 1:02:36
  I'm actually one of those people that doesn't generally tend to
• 1:02:38
  edit so this is going to be interesting.
• 1:02:40
  Okay, I do it by choice but here's the thing.
• 1:02:44
  One of the things you mentioned is yeah.
• 1:02:46
  You it's probably difficult to expect people to stick with the
• 1:02:49
  video when you're not getting straight to the point.
• 1:02:50
  I absolutely agree. So what I did for example, I do
• 1:02:54
  like a vlog Style videos. A lot of the time where I just
• 1:02:58
  talk to the camera about a subject.
• 1:02:59
  Right? And in the beginning I remember
• 1:03:01
  getting hate comments. Sometimes when people are like,
• 1:03:03
  dude, it took you like four minutes.
• 1:03:05
  To get to the point room. I wish they wouldn't put it
• 1:03:08
  inside, be good and generally I do like 10 minute videos live a
• 1:03:13
  minute video sometimes longer, right?
• 1:03:15
  So I was like, okay, that's that's a fair criticism.
• 1:03:17
  Like screw that guy but just because of the way they put it,
• 1:03:21
  you know. Yeah.
• 1:03:22
  Yeah. You know respectful.
• 1:03:23
  Hey great. Thank you.
• 1:03:24
  If you're not respectful what I love.
• 1:03:29
  So I was like, okay, no, no used.
• 1:03:31
  I'll start getting to the point quicker and I try not to go off
• 1:03:34
  on tangents. Too much unless it's like the
• 1:03:36
  podcast but even if it's the podcast what I do is I allow the
• 1:03:39
  tangent and then bring it back. So you noticed I asked you the
• 1:03:43
  question about the podcast guest again because I knew that there
• 1:03:45
  would be people listening going, ah, you know, he started to
• 1:03:48
  question but then we never got back to it.
• 1:03:50
  Well, we did go back to it. So I was president and thank you
• 1:03:53
  very much. That's how that's how I approach
• 1:03:55
  it with with, with editing. Like if there's major issues
• 1:03:59
  like I had a podcast with a guy, British guy who was in Sweden
• 1:04:03
  and I appeared on his podcast. Cast and the internet was trash
• 1:04:07
  for whatever reason, I think it was on his side and the same
• 1:04:10
  issue occurred when he was on my podcast which meant that I had
• 1:04:15
  to do to tons of editing and idea.
• 1:04:18
  I think I did it for like four hours, maybe five hours to fix
• 1:04:23
  it and even then I didn't get all of them out, but I put it
• 1:04:28
  together as much as best I could and it was mostly that thing
• 1:04:31
  work that stops and goes the robot voice.
• 1:04:34
  Yeah. And so, I did five hours of just
• 1:04:37
  editing all that crap out. And then I had to do the
• 1:04:40
  clipping afterwards for my podcast Clips Channel and it's
• 1:04:44
  like, oh I could just but you have to do it if you don't do
• 1:04:47
  it. You've just got like an hour or
• 1:04:50
  two of just that crab and I would say that's quite
• 1:04:53
  unprofessional to release a video in that way.
• 1:04:56
  Now, if you're talking just general editing with YouTube
• 1:04:58
  videos, like, what I mentioned before, these kind of
• 1:05:01
  Storytelling type Vlogs, right? As long as you don't have too
• 1:05:06
  much arm in a narang stuff like that.
• 1:05:08
  Yeah, then it's okay. And that's a reason that I don't
• 1:05:11
  really edit my videos is because I just talked continuously for
• 1:05:14
  10 minutes, I don't know. I have this gift that I'm able
• 1:05:17
  to do that. I understand that.
• 1:05:19
  Not a lot of people have the ability to do that.
• 1:05:21
  I know that it's difficult and in the very beginning I was
• 1:05:24
  guilty of that too. So I'm just very conscientious
• 1:05:28
  of that. Like if I ever do just stumble
• 1:05:30
  for ages then I will obviously cut that out.
• 1:05:33
  Yeah. But for the most part.
• 1:05:35
  Yeah. I don't I ever need to and it's
• 1:05:37
  lucky but I think that that's the approach you have to go for
• 1:05:40
  is like, okay, if I can make my video succinct, you know, I can
• 1:05:44
  have a rough like I do it. I do the wrestling promo style.
• 1:05:47
  So what I mean by that is Go out have bullet points.
• 1:05:51
  Get to the point. ABC Done, Right?
• 1:05:54
  Gotcha. And if you go off on a tangent,
• 1:05:56
  that's okay. You go and you bring it back to
• 1:05:59
  see and you do it like that, right?
• 1:06:01
  But you have you at least have a little bit of research a little
• 1:06:03
  bit of planning. So like today for instance, I
• 1:06:06
  released a video on why I'm never going to get married,
• 1:06:09
  right? And I thought okay, maybe I can
• 1:06:13
  write down all the points about what I'm going to cover and then
• 1:06:16
  I thought you know what I think I've got this.
• 1:06:19
  I think I I know what I'm going to say so I'm just going to go
• 1:06:23
  for it and in the end it was okay I went from point to point
• 1:06:26
  in my mind that I was able to do the project, right?
• 1:06:30
  But that was lucky normally, I wouldn't do that.
• 1:06:32
  Normally I would write down at least like five bullet points.
• 1:06:35
  If it's one of those types of videos and and go for it I think
• 1:06:39
  it really depends on the video. I think it depends because I
• 1:06:43
  would say like editing for one person or two people.
• 1:06:48
  To me, I think I could get away with maybe not editing as much.
• 1:06:52
  However, we tend to have at least, obviously we have three
• 1:06:56
  because there's us, but we will always have at least one other
• 1:06:59
  guests and sometimes too. And we've even had up to like
• 1:07:03
  six people in the podcast total and so with that, you know, in
• 1:07:07
  the lag and internet, sometimes people are talking over each
• 1:07:10
  other and it's just like if I didn't edit, it would be much,
• 1:07:13
  you know? And so I know like I have to,
• 1:07:17
  and I guess maybe because I have Of much now I'm like oh this
• 1:07:20
  person you know, has a space between their words too much.
• 1:07:24
  So now I have to like Michelle other words together because he
• 1:07:27
  talks so slow that he's not gonna keep anybody's attention,
• 1:07:30
  you know, or whatever. Like my dad actually.
• 1:07:33
  I convinced my dad and his good friend that had always been on
• 1:07:37
  our podcast as guess. They have a really funny
• 1:07:40
  rhetoric where they're just like old men, that just like the one
• 1:07:44
  picks on my dad all the time and I'm like, you guys need your own
• 1:07:46
  show because it's hilarious, they're just Two old dudes that
• 1:07:49
  like get on each other's nerves but their friends, you know.
• 1:07:52
  And but his friend talks like a super Stoner but like spaces and
• 1:08:01
  spaces and spaces between I swear it's like every single
• 1:08:04
  word has like a good space between it and I'm like I go
• 1:08:08
  through and I cut out, like lots of spaces.
• 1:08:11
  He'll also do the thing where he's like the the the the the
• 1:08:15
  the Mi gotta go, cut the fourth uzzell.
• 1:08:17
  Yeah. God, I'm like, why can't?
• 1:08:19
  I just let it be that because if they ever meet him in person
• 1:08:22
  he's gonna talk like that, you know.
• 1:08:24
  But I mean, I don't want to hear a joke though.
• 1:08:27
  Yeah. That would be annoying to
• 1:08:29
  listen. Yeah.
• 1:08:31
  If I get to the point man, say what you're going to say, no, I
• 1:08:33
  don't wanna hear the five times. So it's a tricky one.
• 1:08:37
  It's a tricky one. Like Knowing when to do that and
• 1:08:42
  we're not to like I get it like one of the things I've learned
• 1:08:45
  with podcasting, you know, with regards to what you were saying
• 1:08:48
  about kind of taking breaks between each person and allowing
• 1:08:52
  them to speak. Like, I'd take like natural
• 1:08:54
  pauses here and there after I've finished speaking, or if I ask a
• 1:08:59
  question or whatever, like I wait, just one or two seconds
• 1:09:03
  for that person to finish because you don't know if
• 1:09:04
  they're going to go off in another thing and I've had hate
• 1:09:07
  comments where people have been like, why you constantly Of the
• 1:09:10
  guests. You constantly interrupt them.
• 1:09:11
  Like, how could you do that? Oh my God, terrible host.
• 1:09:13
  I'm never going to listen again. And it's like, all right, maybe
• 1:09:18
  they have a point. I don't know, like I said, I
• 1:09:20
  still maintain that. I've never been like that, but
• 1:09:25
  You know I took it to heart and as I'm going to try my best to
• 1:09:28
  never do that because I understand that that would be
• 1:09:30
  problematic. And also you know, if you have a
• 1:09:32
  guest on your show, whole point is you want to hear them speak?
• 1:09:36
  Yeah. But I think I stand by the idea
• 1:09:39
  of like a 2 to 3 minute per person back and forth, tends to
• 1:09:43
  be more interesting than if somebody goes for 15 minutes and
• 1:09:47
  like nobody else got to say anything.
• 1:09:49
  Yeah, so I feel like my job on ours.
• 1:09:51
  Anyways is to constantly kind of be like, hey, okay.
• 1:09:54
  We're going to what is so and so thank you know, what is this
• 1:09:57
  person think and just keep it moving especially with that many
• 1:10:01
  guests. But you know, with a
• 1:10:02
  back-and-forth between two people, I would think you're
• 1:10:05
  allowed to cut them off a little bit.
• 1:10:07
  It's your show, you know, bring them back like you said, your
• 1:10:10
  dress. Well one of the things the thing
• 1:10:12
  like II because a lot of the hate comments that I get are
• 1:10:17
  usually just trash I ignored them, right?
• 1:10:19
  But every now and again, someone will send something that's
• 1:10:21
  hateful but at least constructive and there was two
• 1:10:24
  Parts to what this person said to like.
• 1:10:26
  That was the first part and I took that and I rolled with it.
• 1:10:29
  But the other thing that they said was no one wants to listen
• 1:10:32
  to your voice. No one wants to hear you
• 1:10:34
  talking. Oh my God, you're so eager
• 1:10:36
  testicle. Like shut up.
• 1:10:38
  And I was thinking it's my show. Like, yeah, why don't you shut
• 1:10:41
  up? They say, if I want to talk on
• 1:10:43
  my show, I'm gonna talk. Of course, like, its first and
• 1:10:47
  foremost. It's at least when I'm doing
• 1:10:50
  these interviews. It is about my guest.
• 1:10:52
  It's about interviewing my guest and let them speak.
• 1:10:54
  And blah, blah, blah. But if I want to make a point if
• 1:10:57
  I want to share a story, you know, like it's a conversation.
• 1:10:59
  I want to talk to that person and share that story with that
• 1:11:03
  person, you know. So yeah, it's really loud.
• 1:11:06
  It's just like, if you were across the table at a lunch or
• 1:11:09
  something, like you would still be like oh on that note let me,
• 1:11:13
  you know, or whatever like and so maybe it's seen as cutting it
• 1:11:16
  off but not really it's just keeping the conversation
• 1:11:19
  flowing. I don't see it like that.
• 1:11:21
  But hey, I'm impressed that you get hate mail at all because Is
• 1:11:24
  Halo, dude? Like I'm like we're gonna hate
• 1:11:27
  bring the anything. I would just love feedback at
• 1:11:29
  all, you know, and I think when you first start out, there's
• 1:11:32
  like such a lack of that, unless you really Target somebody and
• 1:11:36
  say, Hey, listen to this and tell me what you think, you
• 1:11:38
  know, it's hard to get people to give you that, like, hardcore,
• 1:11:43
  like tell me what I'm doing wrong, you know?
• 1:11:45
  Easiest way is to just well for one, just do this for a while
• 1:11:50
  and it will happen. Yeah, I do for me, I've just
• 1:11:53
  been lucky. I've had it since Day one.
• 1:11:57
  Tick-Tock that place is a hellhole.
• 1:11:59
  You get plenty of. Hey there any time you try to do
• 1:12:04
  anything? That's popular trending.
• 1:12:06
  I'm surprised at your podcast hasn't had time to actually
• 1:12:09
  considering that it's very topical and into conspiracy and
• 1:12:11
  stuff but I guess it depends. Are you guys on YouTube you
• 1:12:15
  posted on YouTube. So I'm I go back and forth with
• 1:12:18
  YouTube. I have a lot like of people that
• 1:12:21
  are like, oh I would listen more if I could watch it on YouTube.
• 1:12:24
  I'm like seriously because For Me podcast, the beauty of it is
• 1:12:28
  that I can listen to it in my ear and I can be moving around
• 1:12:31
  and maybe that's the add part of me is like I cannot watch
• 1:12:34
  something. It is so hard to get me to sit
• 1:12:36
  down and watch a TV show. I fall asleep, there's just no
• 1:12:39
  stopping me. Like, I have to be able to
• 1:12:42
  listen and clean or listen and drive or, you know, like
• 1:12:46
  something something else has to be going on.
• 1:12:48
  So I've released two of our episodes on YouTube.
• 1:12:53
  Again, they're unedited because I Don't really do video editing.
• 1:12:58
  So that also bothers me. I think like as my OCD situation
• 1:13:02
  goes, but I'm going to try to get it going a little bit more
• 1:13:05
  because I know a lot of people do like to watch it.
• 1:13:08
  I'm gonna, if you don't mind, I'll give you some advice.
• 1:13:11
  Yes, please, she's based on my own experience, but where we
• 1:13:16
  originally, when I started this podcast it was just an audio,
• 1:13:22
  only podcast, but I did upload to Youtube.
• 1:13:24
  Tube. And within about five or ten
• 1:13:27
  episodes a few people were saying to be like, hey, why
• 1:13:30
  don't you do? You know, video one?
• 1:13:32
  And I thinking like, who cares? Like why do you want to see me?
• 1:13:35
  Why'd you want to see me about? It's just it's boring, right?
• 1:13:38
  But I thought okay, more people were saying that maybe I should
• 1:13:41
  do this. Let's let's you know,
• 1:13:43
  particularly for on YouTube. YouTube is video content.
• 1:13:46
  So let's let's try and I started doing it.
• 1:13:50
  And one of the key things that, that someone said that I think
• 1:13:53
  is really important, is that It helps with the conversation like
• 1:13:57
  obviously I know that you obviously do your podcast video
• 1:13:59
  anyway but it sort of becomes audio afterwards that's the
• 1:14:02
  important. But obviously if you're having
• 1:14:03
  that conversation you can see each other hence body language
• 1:14:07
  or they just helps the conversation.
• 1:14:09
  So that's true. The big reason why you should do
• 1:14:11
  it but I suppose a bigger reason why it's worthwhile why it's
• 1:14:15
  just you know you're available or more platforms.
• 1:14:19
  Like I've discovered that I'm what I think I'm on like maybe.
• 1:14:25
  Enter 12 platforms, now, something like that.
• 1:14:27
  Yeah, and it's interesting where you find people listening to a
• 1:14:31
  lot. So there's a lot of people
• 1:14:34
  listening to my podcast on YouTube.
• 1:14:36
  But then there's, you know, loads of people, it's not
• 1:14:38
  Spotify Apple podcast, you know, all these different platforms,
• 1:14:43
  and I don't know, I think, I think it's favored by different
• 1:14:47
  people. Different places, you know.
• 1:14:48
  Like, for instance, most of my audience is American, which is
• 1:14:51
  kind of crazy, and I don't really love British accent.
• 1:14:54
  So, you care. It could be that it could be
• 1:14:56
  that but I don't know. I think it might be more to do
• 1:14:58
  with the guest I've had on the show.
• 1:14:59
  Have been predominantly American.
• 1:15:01
  I don't know, I'm just theorizing.
• 1:15:03
  Yeah, but being basically my point is being available on more
• 1:15:07
  platforms. I think, just generally, makes
• 1:15:09
  you more accessible, it allows you to grow your audience more
• 1:15:12
  and from a marketing perspective, it's much better to
• 1:15:16
  kind of like have this idea that you're building a brand, you
• 1:15:20
  know what I mean? So like if like a good way I do,
• 1:15:22
  what I do now is I dove everyone to my website.
• 1:15:25
  And I make sure to put every link possible but I have on my
• 1:15:29
  link so I onto my website so that people can kind of find
• 1:15:33
  whatever they want. They're so like if they go to
• 1:15:35
  the podcast page, what you'll see is like that you can listen
• 1:15:38
  to the podcast on the page if you want.
• 1:15:40
  But there's a long list of different places to listen to.
• 1:15:43
  It says are all he's on YouTube, I'll go there.
• 1:15:46
  Oh, there's a podcast Clips page, I'll go there.
• 1:15:48
  Oh, it's on Spotify. Great, you know, and that that's
• 1:15:51
  how you kind of make it more accessible, right?
• 1:15:53
  So I think it's just Kind of catering to your audience that
• 1:15:57
  given your audience mortar native's but as far as that grow
• 1:16:00
  in the audience because you make a very good point, like it's
• 1:16:03
  generally speaking, you know, for instance, if anyone's
• 1:16:07
  listening to my podcast, I know for a fact.
• 1:16:09
  No one is sitting watching it listening to it.
• 1:16:12
  They might be. I mean, I don't know.
• 1:16:14
  Like, I do premieres for the video episodes now on YouTube,
• 1:16:17
  so I'll be in the chat. If anyone wants to talk right
• 1:16:20
  now, that's cool. But generally speaking, I don't
• 1:16:24
  expect many people Would it be there, right?
• 1:16:26
  I expect people were listening to it, you know, when they're on
• 1:16:28
  the way to work or they're killing an hour at the gym or
• 1:16:31
  whatever, you know, that's when I expect people, they'll
• 1:16:33
  probably listen to it right now. Moving on to the final part of
• 1:16:37
  this, because I've been talking way too long, no podcast Clips,
• 1:16:42
  I think are probably the best and most valuable part of video
• 1:16:47
  content for obvious reasons, it shorts, you know, for instance,
• 1:16:51
  some up, some of my audience didn't even know that I did
• 1:16:53
  podcast clip. So I started Pushing this idea
• 1:16:56
  and like, I had people who when I asked them.
• 1:16:58
  Hey, do you listen to the podcast?
• 1:16:59
  And people were like, I don't know, it's too long and I'm
• 1:17:01
  like, listen to the podcast Clips, 8 minutes, 5 minutes,
• 1:17:05
  that's all. Okay.
• 1:17:06
  Right. Because I'm doing like the
• 1:17:08
  little like headliner you know like little things you just put
• 1:17:12
  on social media where it's like, And the 20 seconds or something
• 1:17:15
  to kind of draw people in but not like eight minutes.
• 1:17:18
  That would be cool. I think everything works.
• 1:17:20
  I think you should try everything like I mentioned the
• 1:17:21
  YouTube shorts earlier. So if you go on my podcast Clips
• 1:17:24
  Channel, you get a mixture of clips that are under 60 seconds,
• 1:17:28
  which is the YouTube shorts algorithm, which would be
• 1:17:31
  perfect for like Instagram and all those other places I
• 1:17:34
  suppose. The best thing is to just make
• 1:17:35
  stuff that you're going to promote the podcast with on all
• 1:17:38
  social media. Yeah, that's under 60 seconds
• 1:17:41
  and put it on your Instagram. I'm YouTube everywhere, right?
• 1:17:45
  But then when you do those longer Clips, put those only put
• 1:17:49
  those on YouTube. Okay?
• 1:17:50
  And very them. So like what I'll do?
• 1:17:53
  Like, for instance, when I click this up later, they'll be a
• 1:17:55
  mixture of one minutes, 5 minutes, 10 minutes, maybe even
• 1:17:59
  longer than that, and it's to cater to different members of
• 1:18:02
  the audience, you know what I mean?
• 1:18:04
  And I expect, generally speaking that the shorter ones, will
• 1:18:07
  always be the more watched Clips.
• 1:18:09
  But I think a lot of people forget that like, I suppose the
• 1:18:12
  average YouTube video on YouTube ranges anywhere from like 10
• 1:18:16
  minutes to like 30 minutes and if you like the content creator
• 1:18:19
  enough, you will stay and watch that video.
• 1:18:21
  Like there's a guy I discovered recently called, Joshua fluke, I
• 1:18:25
  keep name-dropping this guy, he doesn't need, he's got like 400,
• 1:18:30
  give you a cut or something, you know.
• 1:18:32
  Nah, you're going to sponsor or just fun for you.
• 1:18:36
  Well, I wish I would love to have him on my show like I've
• 1:18:40
  but it's not. I don't try by the way, we were
• 1:18:43
  talking about celebrities earlier.
• 1:18:44
  I try always reach out to celebrities, but they always are
• 1:18:48
  me. Always really?
• 1:18:50
  Yeah. Of course, you know, it's not
• 1:18:51
  meant to be then, you know. Yeah.
• 1:18:53
  No, I just wait till they drop in your lap.
• 1:18:56
  Yeah, I've talked to people before, they'll be like one day,
• 1:18:59
  they'll be scrambling to get on my show.
• 1:19:01
  Oh yeah, they'll be begging, you please.
• 1:19:06
  In three months. I have asked.
• 1:19:09
  Well, here's the thing. I have a weird feeling That some
• 1:19:12
  of those people that admit, because here's the thing, it's
• 1:19:14
  one thing. If you don't see the message, I
• 1:19:15
  just assume you're busy right, but there's people, I know.
• 1:19:19
  So I know a few celebrities that I went to night school with
• 1:19:22
  right? Okay.
• 1:19:23
  Or I knew around the time that I was a teenager, and I know that
• 1:19:27
  they see the videos. So, see the posts like it's
• 1:19:30
  seen, but they just never before responding.
• 1:19:32
  And I'm, like, I hate that. Yeah, like Judo, I would much
• 1:19:36
  rather you just turn around and say, do you know what, you're
• 1:19:39
  too small. I don't want to appear on your
• 1:19:40
  show on your show or Oh no, thank you Robert.
• 1:19:42
  He's busy. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:44
  Like come on man. Like yes.
• 1:19:46
  Like why do I not even deserve the time?
• 1:19:48
  It takes to send back like no. Like you could literally just
• 1:19:52
  say no and you got the time to do it, you know.
• 1:19:55
  Yeah. But whatever it is what it is
• 1:19:58
  and like I said before, like I'm more focused on having those
• 1:20:01
  good discussions haven't because the reality is if you have a
• 1:20:04
  celebrity on your on your show, I mean you got to promote their
• 1:20:07
  thing. Like I've had a lot of business
• 1:20:09
  owners on my Show recently so like First thing that comes into
• 1:20:12
  my mind is okay, the first thing we've got to talk about is their
• 1:20:15
  thing is their product and you know like even even today you
• 1:20:18
  know the first time we spoke about was your podcast and yeah
• 1:20:20
  obviously you know I'm not under any illusion you know if you
• 1:20:23
  come on my show you want to promote your stuff.
• 1:20:25
  That's great. Right.
• 1:20:26
  I yeah, I do the same one of my other people's shows, of course.
• 1:20:30
  Yeah, difference for me is that I'm because I'm plugged into
• 1:20:34
  content creator mode all the time.
• 1:20:35
  I'm always thinking like, I need to make this entertaining.
• 1:20:38
  So even if I'm on someone else's show, this needs to be a Good
• 1:20:41
  conversation that people enjoy so that when they listen to it,
• 1:20:45
  they'll think hey, you know, I like that.
• 1:20:46
  Weird British guy, think I'll go listen to his stuff.
• 1:20:49
  Exactly rather than just being like, hey, come subscribe.
• 1:20:52
  Hey, listen to my stuff. Like I can't tell you how many
• 1:20:55
  people reach out to me and just go and just send me links like,
• 1:20:58
  Hey, listen to this. Hey, do this.
• 1:21:00
  It's like, yeah. Hey, fuck off.
• 1:21:03
  Exactly. You don't even know me.
• 1:21:05
  Like, that's the thing. I was in a lot of those Facebook
• 1:21:08
  groups that are like people constantly going like Sub listen
• 1:21:12
  for listen feedback for feedback, rating for rating.
• 1:21:15
  And I'm like, okay, yeah, it pumps your numbers for like that
• 1:21:18
  second, but they all go and unsubscribe.
• 1:21:21
  They'd never listen to your entire thing.
• 1:21:23
  They're not repeat listeners, you're not organically growing.
• 1:21:27
  You're literally just doing something that is satisfying to
• 1:21:29
  you at the moment because you're seeing your numbers go up.
• 1:21:32
  But when you release your next episode, you're not going to see
• 1:21:35
  anything from that because you didn't go on and what I like to
• 1:21:38
  call whore yourself out on these podcasts pages.
• 1:21:41
  And so I just stopped because I was like, I want to know who is
• 1:21:44
  actually listening every time. So what I'll do which is
• 1:21:47
  probably like the reverse of what you're doing is like I'll
• 1:21:51
  release it like sometimes and just not post on anything.
• 1:21:55
  And I want to see like who is listening when I don't promote
• 1:21:59
  it at all and it'll be like 15 or 20 people, but to me I'm
• 1:22:04
  like, holy shit. One person is listening like
• 1:22:06
  that's my whole thing is like, I'm cool enough for one person
• 1:22:09
  to listen to. I don't care if it's 20 or 2000.
• 1:22:13
  Obviously, I'd like to have more.
• 1:22:14
  Yeah. But you know, I think more drama
• 1:22:17
  comes with the more you have obviously, and maybe more
• 1:22:20
  pressure to. So, I'm okay with like organic
• 1:22:24
  organically growing and eventually becoming bigger or
• 1:22:27
  just staying like an indie podcast and satisfying, the
• 1:22:31
  tinfoil hat people out there, you know, like yeah, I agree
• 1:22:35
  with you. One of the things that's changed
• 1:22:37
  for me. As far as my Approach is concern
• 1:22:39
  is, I don't look at the numbers anymore.
• 1:22:40
  Like I kind of I look at them that Curiosity and, you know, I
• 1:22:44
  do the same. As you do a little experiment,
• 1:22:45
  see, you know, see what will happen, just for shits and
• 1:22:48
  giggles really, but generally my focus now is about building a
• 1:22:54
  community of people. So let's when I do my live
• 1:22:57
  streams, I see people in the live streams that are regulars
• 1:23:01
  coming back and they like all of the content that I do and I
• 1:23:03
  might, okay, this is who I need to be appealing to these people.
• 1:23:07
  I need to be encouraging this community building this
• 1:23:10
  community, Because got to get you on Discord, man.
• 1:23:13
  We've got to talk. You need your own Discord
• 1:23:15
  server, because gonna go on I got sure you do.
• 1:23:18
  Yeah. Just never used them because
• 1:23:20
  just I don't know. Here's the thing about me is
• 1:23:24
  that while I say, all these things about, I'm building this
• 1:23:27
  like there. For instance, there was someone
• 1:23:31
  in my live stream the other day. That said, I can't believe you
• 1:23:34
  don't have more subscribers and I'm like, yeah, I wondered the
• 1:23:36
  same thing myself. And that it's not that I don't
• 1:23:40
  try like I really We do say, hey guys, come join the live stream.
• 1:23:44
  Hey, come join, this Discord, come do this, come do that.
• 1:23:47
  And the problem with that is that like I think a lot of
• 1:23:51
  people aren't interested, which is fair, you know, but like
• 1:23:55
  building this community where people like you and want to
• 1:23:59
  subscribe to you and want to know, but get the latest updates
• 1:24:02
  about everything that you do is very difficult when you're
• 1:24:04
  starting out, because when you're starting out, no one
• 1:24:07
  cares about you. You're just right.
• 1:24:08
  And that's one of the reasons why I know My numbers are so low
• 1:24:14
  is because, you know, it's like you see a content creator and
• 1:24:17
  your lies and I got 500 Subs. Who cares, right?
• 1:24:20
  That's the problem because I found in the past couple of
• 1:24:23
  days, I found that I found one guy who only had like 300
• 1:24:27
  subscribers, he's been on YouTube for like 6 years but
• 1:24:30
  he's fantastic. He makes excellent content and I
• 1:24:33
  reached out to him to get him on my show.
• 1:24:36
  He's taking a break right now but there's potential that he's
• 1:24:38
  going to be on the show, right? Exciting.
• 1:24:40
  And that's the thing like I look at a lot of these people, and
• 1:24:42
  I'm like this, this is the, the mentality to have.
• 1:24:45
  It's not about focusing on numbers, it's about making good
• 1:24:49
  content, making content that will make people want to stay
• 1:24:52
  and keep coming back and hopefully talk about you.
• 1:24:56
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 1:24:57
  Make bring other. All you got check.
• 1:24:59
  This guy out. Are you could, you know what I
• 1:25:00
  mean? Like, sometimes people are
• 1:25:01
  randomly share me for no reason and I might now it's working.
• 1:25:05
  Yeah, yeah. So now it's all like you said,
• 1:25:08
  even with like hairdressing and stuff, everything is Word of
• 1:25:11
  Mouth. Do you always trust somebody,
• 1:25:12
  you knows word over some advertisement.
• 1:25:16
  Usually usually it's like if you would go out now and give out
• 1:25:20
  like a hundred, okay, let's pretend covid isn't a thing and
• 1:25:22
  you give out like 150 business cards around your local town.
• 1:25:25
  I wager to people. Maybe 10 best will get in touch.
• 1:25:32
  Yeah, we'll get in touch with you.
• 1:25:33
  The most of them will just keep that in their back pocket.
• 1:25:35
  Never use it again. So it's 100% going to be about
• 1:25:38
  the word of mouth. It will be like you cut
• 1:25:41
  someone's hair. Are you do a great job?
• 1:25:42
  They tell their sister, they tell their brother and then and
• 1:25:45
  then it builds a network off that and it's just it creates a
• 1:25:47
  buzz after a while. You know, enough people talking
• 1:25:49
  about you and then something happens, you know?
• 1:25:52
  Exactly. And then you're like magical and
• 1:25:55
  you know, that's the thing like when I look at what I'm doing
• 1:25:58
  right now like I can't sit here and speculate logo, I reckon
• 1:26:01
  it'll take this many years, it all this happened, that will
• 1:26:03
  happen, but when I look at all of the major content creators,
• 1:26:07
  especially the ones that are doing similar content to myself,
• 1:26:11
  A lot of the time they'll do it for like a year, two years,
• 1:26:14
  three years and, you know, they'll get nothing and then
• 1:26:18
  they blow up. Yeah.
• 1:26:20
  And I think that's how it's possibly going to go for me.
• 1:26:25
  I mean, I don't know, I'm a positive guy, you know, I try to
• 1:26:30
  have a positive outlook in life and say, yeah, it's going to
• 1:26:32
  happen, it's going to happen. But to be honest, in my mind,
• 1:26:36
  the biggest thing I want is just to be able to do this for a
• 1:26:38
  living, you know. Yes, I'm not a set.
• 1:26:41
  It has, I can live on it. I'll be happy.
• 1:26:44
  I'm not as bothered about becoming famous really.
• 1:26:47
  I mean, that would be cool but you know it for me it's more
• 1:26:51
  about being able to do this for a living because I love doing
• 1:26:53
  this. I really enjoy doing it, like I
• 1:26:55
  would love to get paid for it. I was for a while editing for
• 1:26:59
  other podcasts right? Just to make a little money
• 1:27:01
  because I'm like let's be real you put money into this that you
• 1:27:05
  never get back you know like you pay for websites you pay for
• 1:27:09
  well I don't know. I pay for Zoom you know because
• 1:27:11
  Only allows so many hours and I mean things build up, you know?
• 1:27:15
  And you're like, you want statistics from certain sites.
• 1:27:18
  So the new of course, like upgrade to pay for that and so
• 1:27:21
  you're just basically putting money out into nowhere.
• 1:27:23
  So my whole goal is like if I could just make like 50 dollars
• 1:27:26
  a month, like that would cover, what I'm paying, you know, just
• 1:27:30
  to even create content at all. But it would be great to be able
• 1:27:36
  to stay home and like do nothing else.
• 1:27:39
  But the one thing you really love, you know, No, I don't.
• 1:27:42
  I don't ever wanna like stop doing hair, but it would be nice
• 1:27:44
  to have something in between to do, you know?
• 1:27:47
  And dude, I'm the same with marketing.
• 1:27:49
  You know, I studied marketing at Uni for three years and you know
• 1:27:53
  I worked in the field for three years and I've done freelance
• 1:27:55
  stop. I've got some freelance clients
• 1:27:57
  to this day. I would like to keep making
• 1:28:01
  money from that, you know, because it's an easy way to make
• 1:28:03
  money. And I don't like, I'm not super
• 1:28:06
  passionate about marketing, but I do like talking about it.
• 1:28:09
  I find it interesting and I like, obviously, making From it
• 1:28:12
  because it's like, yeah, I wrote an article on.
• 1:28:14
  I got paid for it. Great.
• 1:28:15
  Oh yeah, but yeah, on the side, I think he's just an approach of
• 1:28:20
  wanting to make money. Like when I look at everything
• 1:28:24
  that I do in my life, acting music podcasting vlogging
• 1:28:29
  streaming, like, I just want to be able to make money from all
• 1:28:32
  of these things and enjoy it, but keep the hustle on because I
• 1:28:36
  don't know. Like, for me, I like to work.
• 1:28:39
  I like to earn money and I like to do it.
• 1:28:41
  Because it's I think work is good for the soul.
• 1:28:43
  I think it's oh yeah, you know, and I don't know, my personal
• 1:28:46
  thing is like, never retire, die with your boots trapped on.
• 1:28:49
  You have that kind of approach and some people call me crazy
• 1:28:53
  but you know what? Like that to me is just how I
• 1:28:56
  live my life and what I think is worthwhile but I understand, you
• 1:29:02
  know, look, I've had I have a someone in my community that
• 1:29:05
  said to me today, like the message me in the Indians like,
• 1:29:08
  Christian, you know, you need to take a break, you know.
• 1:29:11
  I might but I love to do that. It doesn't.
• 1:29:14
  It doesn't feel like work, you know, it's true.
• 1:29:17
  You got to you got to take five minutes every now and again but
• 1:29:20
  you know I mean you get what you put in I think and I do too.
• 1:29:24
  And I think if you're I mean this is yours, you know, solely
• 1:29:28
  yours and I think as much as you want to put into it is like you
• 1:29:32
  said, what you're going to get back out of it.
• 1:29:34
  I tend to get like I am a control freak, the same like I
• 1:29:39
  want to do everything for this because This was my idea.
• 1:29:42
  But then I get to a point where I'm like, okay, I have four
• 1:29:45
  kids, I have my own business, I'm editing, I'm doing the
• 1:29:48
  marketing. I'm literally finding guess I'm
• 1:29:50
  doing the Discord, like, all this stuff.
• 1:29:53
  What are you guys even fucking doing?
• 1:29:54
  You know, like and then I'm like, wait, I can't do that.
• 1:29:57
  Like, I can't take everything and then get pissed off that.
• 1:30:02
  I took everything because they're not doing anything.
• 1:30:05
  And I, yeah, just turn around and change, right?
• 1:30:08
  It's so I think when it's yours alone, It would be I mean I
• 1:30:12
  would pump as much effort as I'm doing now, right?
• 1:30:15
  And not get mad at anybody or feel overwhelmed because it's
• 1:30:18
  mine. But if you have other people
• 1:30:21
  that aren't, you know, taking leads and stuff.
• 1:30:24
  It's sometimes they were, like, why am I even doing this?
• 1:30:27
  Are you know, why don't I just do my own show?
• 1:30:30
  But again, I'm like, because I don't want to like, disappoint
• 1:30:35
  people that do like to listen. And I want to keep the content
• 1:30:37
  great. I could cut out the editing
• 1:30:39
  completely but then I feel like it would be very Very obvious
• 1:30:42
  from one show to the next. You know, like that I didn't do
• 1:30:45
  the work, I usually do. And so instead I just keep being
• 1:30:49
  like, let's start more podcasts and now I have my dad and his
• 1:30:53
  friend that I edit and like produce for.
• 1:30:57
  I think it'd be really cool to have eventually like a podcast
• 1:31:00
  Network that I was going to say, like it's beginning to sound
• 1:31:03
  like that's what you're doing, but I don't know the part of
• 1:31:08
  like the bandwidth and actually being the That puts it out.
• 1:31:12
  I'm more like, I just want to put my name on all these
• 1:31:14
  podcasts and like them all have. Like I was telling her last
• 1:31:18
  night. He was like, well, then you
• 1:31:20
  would just have everybody under that umbrella.
• 1:31:23
  And I'm like, no, my whole thing is having peaceful disagreements
• 1:31:27
  and being respectful to one another and creating like you're
• 1:31:30
  saying a community. So if there's a podcast that is
• 1:31:32
  very confrontational and they call people stupid.
• 1:31:35
  And, you know, they're doing all this stuff, they would not be in
• 1:31:38
  my podcast know. Yeah, because that's not what I
• 1:31:40
  want. What content created and he was
• 1:31:43
  like, well you can't be that picky.
• 1:31:45
  I'm like oh hell yeah, you can I mean it's your brand, it's your
• 1:31:47
  name and if I'm going to put my name on something and vouch for
• 1:31:52
  it, that's going to be something I agree with and I don't like
• 1:31:55
  people calling people stupid example.
• 1:31:57
  I and I know this is like maybe a ramble but I'm gonna try to
• 1:32:01
  keep it short. There's a guy that and podcast
• 1:32:04
  Discord that I'm in that I love his content.
• 1:32:07
  For the most part, his whole idea is learning about different
• 1:32:10
  cultures. For, you know, people from
• 1:32:12
  different countries and whatnot, and he just talks to those
• 1:32:15
  people and whatever educating himself.
• 1:32:18
  Well, he had an opportunity to have this big time flat earther,
• 1:32:23
  David Wise on that would be so. And yeah, so but to other
• 1:32:29
  podcasts, he knew of didn't want the guy because I guess the guy
• 1:32:33
  just like really goes off on a tangent and he makes money off
• 1:32:37
  of like spreading Flat Earth crap, and this guy doesn't agree
• 1:32:40
  with it and that it So he had him on and the week leading up,
• 1:32:44
  they're all like let's have a you know voice chat.
• 1:32:48
  So we can like come up with points that we're going to like
• 1:32:51
  you know just pound this guy into the ground and just
• 1:32:53
  carrier. Right?
• 1:32:54
  His whole you know, thing and I'm like okay well then you're
• 1:32:58
  gonna have to be smart because honestly I've looked in the Flat
• 1:33:01
  Earth of ton I've been in groups of flat-earthers and they are
• 1:33:04
  not stupid like everybody says they have omelette honestly had
• 1:33:08
  to do more work that than we have believing in around.
• 1:33:11
  Because they're trying to dispute this, like very largely
• 1:33:15
  known thing, you know, and it's science.
• 1:33:18
  And some like I was interested to see how he was going to go
• 1:33:21
  about it. Well, he did one of those like
• 1:33:23
  you're talking about the live YouTube streams or whatever with
• 1:33:27
  the sky. Wow.
• 1:33:29
  And so but he puts on like the header and the footer of the
• 1:33:33
  screen like the flood, the Earth is round, don't be stupid.
• 1:33:37
  And so, then the conversation below the live.
• 1:33:41
  Chat is just like him. It's like people that are on his
• 1:33:45
  side calling flat-earthers idiots.
• 1:33:47
  The Flat Earth are people that are like, you know, there's a
• 1:33:50
  ton of them supporting this big guy that has built a following
• 1:33:54
  and they're under there. Like this guy's not even like
• 1:33:57
  putting up a fight. Like he doesn't know shit.
• 1:33:59
  You know, about trying to prove it's around and it was just such
• 1:34:01
  an angry environment and I was like in the comments like saying
• 1:34:05
  like God y'all just chill, you know like nobody's stupid, it's
• 1:34:09
  different, you know, and he was like It's okay, just it's fine.
• 1:34:13
  And I'm like, okay, this is not fun for me.
• 1:34:14
  Like, I had to get out of it because I was like, but anyways,
• 1:34:18
  my whole point is he had a brand of being peaceful and learning
• 1:34:21
  about people. He had this whole show and
• 1:34:25
  that's what it was around and he brought this one person on and
• 1:34:28
  tried to make himself look, smarter or look better than this
• 1:34:31
  other person. And to me, I don't want to
• 1:34:34
  listen anymore like because I liked your peaceful nature and
• 1:34:38
  then you just screwed it up. And now you're going to go back
• 1:34:40
  to your peaceful. Nature and I don't respect what
• 1:34:43
  you did on that one freaking episode.
• 1:34:46
  You like you ruined it. You know and it sucks.
• 1:34:49
  I hate that. That sometimes like pride gets
• 1:34:51
  in the way and it just damages your complete thing you've
• 1:34:55
  built, you know. Yeah, I know, I can, I totally
• 1:34:58
  agree with you. I think it's highly
• 1:34:59
  unprofessional to act that way. I mean, maybe it's because I'm a
• 1:35:04
  marketing guy. Like, I'm always thinking about
• 1:35:06
  brand and stuff and want some brand.
• 1:35:08
  But like, for instance, I had someone reach out to me who's
• 1:35:10
  been on the show before. And she was like hey why don't
• 1:35:13
  we do a thing? Where we like most people it'd
• 1:35:15
  be funny on my sorry it's not on brand.
• 1:35:18
  Also YouTube wouldn't allow it and just in general I don't like
• 1:35:23
  the idea of just attacking people and making fun of people
• 1:35:25
  for no reason. But here's the thing, I didn't
• 1:35:28
  make her feel bad about that and said, oh, you're a bad person
• 1:35:31
  for thinking that way or or whatever like your thing.
• 1:35:34
  Yeah, I just keep my opinions to myself and I don't attack other
• 1:35:37
  people for the way they live their lives.
• 1:35:39
  And the way they think. And I don't think No one should
• 1:35:42
  do that. I think it makes you look really
• 1:35:43
  weak, like, even in that example, that you gave where,
• 1:35:46
  you know, okay, maybe that flower for his delusional, but
• 1:35:49
  you know what? Like, talking to him and making
• 1:35:51
  making a joke about of him and making him feel bad, just makes
• 1:35:54
  you look 10 times worse. Yes.
• 1:35:57
  And like you said it, ruins it for you, like one of the things
• 1:35:59
  I'm big on is always making the show as good as the last time
• 1:36:03
  and keeping it consistent like if I would suddenly I don't
• 1:36:06
  know. Just change up the format and
• 1:36:08
  not bother asking my guests, any questions and interrupt them and
• 1:36:11
  just talk Incessantly then no one's going to listen to that.
• 1:36:13
  Like why the hell would you listen to that?
• 1:36:15
  You know what? If that got more of you like
• 1:36:18
  that's what I think he did. He got 10,000 views on that one
• 1:36:21
  video and to me, I'm like, is it worth it?
• 1:36:24
  Maybe his following thinks. He's awesome because he just
• 1:36:27
  roasted the sky and they don't believe in a flat Earth but I
• 1:36:31
  know people like me, like I'm not staying with it and I saw it
• 1:36:34
  for what it was and you pumped numbers just to get that, you
• 1:36:38
  know, and then but at the, you know, Bosal of your entire
• 1:36:43
  brand, you know, that you've built.
• 1:36:45
  And I'm big on Brands to because honestly, Toni & Guy pounds it
• 1:36:48
  into your head, you are the brand everywhere, you go.
• 1:36:50
  You're the brand. You better like represent the
• 1:36:53
  brand. Go to the grocery store.
• 1:36:54
  Your hair better look good. You know, like, it's all this
• 1:36:56
  stuff, but it was a good thing because now I'm like, we have to
• 1:37:00
  stay with him. The brand.
• 1:37:01
  That's does not represent the brand, you know.
• 1:37:03
  And so I get that and I think it's important to be consistent
• 1:37:07
  and show who you actually are in your content or else.
• 1:37:10
  Yeah. Just go to do answer your
• 1:37:13
  question. Well what you were saying that?
• 1:37:15
  I think it's a two-fold thing. Like yeah you gotta stay on
• 1:37:18
  brand you got to keep it consistent, but if you do,
• 1:37:20
  discover you come across something that works really
• 1:37:22
  well. Like that example you just gave
• 1:37:25
  I would set up a separate podcast and just and try out the
• 1:37:29
  new that I mean that's kind of what I've done with this.
• 1:37:31
  This second Channel and my third channel.
• 1:37:33
  So like one of the things I did like my second channel was just
• 1:37:36
  a test channel. It's mostly I just put like
• 1:37:38
  commentary videos on their occasional gaming stuff but
• 1:37:40
  basically there's Inconsistent on there which means that can be
• 1:37:44
  ultimately the shorts Channel right now, as long as they do
• 1:37:48
  the shorts algorithm that's mostly going to be what I'm
• 1:37:51
  going to use that for third channel is a mixture of both you
• 1:37:54
  know and I guess it's coming at it from that experiment or
• 1:37:57
  scientific mind, but my point is like if you discovered that
• 1:38:02
  something works for you. Yeah, roll with it.
• 1:38:05
  But like, I guess you got to look at everything else that
• 1:38:07
  you're doing. Like the good thing about
• 1:38:08
  YouTube is you can just continue to set up channels.
• 1:38:11
  So like, I know mr. Beast as an example has like,
• 1:38:14
  like 10 channels, and each channel has specific content for
• 1:38:18
  that one specific Niche, and I agree that you should do that,
• 1:38:22
  but like, I don't know, I've kind of established my main
• 1:38:25
  Channel as being like a multi content Channel but at the same
• 1:38:29
  time I have divided things up and, you know, now the main
• 1:38:33
  channel is, you know, for podcasts discussion based stuff
• 1:38:37
  music acting is it, maybe I will To find the future.
• 1:38:42
  I don't know. I haven't decided but I tried
• 1:38:43
  pretty diverse. Yeah, it's just because I like
• 1:38:46
  to create a lot of stuff. That's only reason.
• 1:38:49
  Yeah. But but this idea of
• 1:38:50
  diversifying at fervor and putting specific content on
• 1:38:53
  specific channels, like I I'm always constantly looking under
• 1:38:58
  that. Like it's like I'm looking in
• 1:39:01
  it's under review. I'm thinking like maybe maybe,
• 1:39:03
  maybe not maybe, I don't know. And you know, I think it's good
• 1:39:07
  to take advice from the people around you.
• 1:39:08
  Like, I've had people shout to still Z Who have given me advice
• 1:39:12
  about, you know, or maybe you should try this up a channel, do
• 1:39:16
  this, do that? And I'm like I'll do it when I
• 1:39:19
  think it's right. Or if I need to select going
• 1:39:22
  back to what you were just saying, that guy's identified,
• 1:39:25
  that he can make a lot of potentially money on doing that
• 1:39:28
  specific thing. So I would say roll with it,
• 1:39:31
  but, however, on the flip side of that, if he's doing one thing
• 1:39:35
  that's like one particular brand and another thing, that's
• 1:39:37
  another particular brand. I don't think he can do that
• 1:39:39
  because if his things I'm going to attack people and make loads
• 1:39:43
  of use out of it. You can't also do a podcast or
• 1:39:46
  another thing where you're you know really nice and letting
• 1:39:49
  everyone to be educating everyone and yeah.
• 1:39:52
  Yeah. I mean culturally diverse.
• 1:39:53
  It's like no dude. I just and I don't think he
• 1:39:57
  wants to continue to do that. I think he saw an opportunity
• 1:40:01
  and he used the guy for his subscribers.
• 1:40:04
  He noted he trolled. Basically is what he did and he
• 1:40:08
  got what he deserved really. You know, you got made to look a
• 1:40:10
  fool of Of exactly except it's like, he has this.
• 1:40:15
  Like, his little group he's telling him like, oh, you burned
• 1:40:18
  that guy. And I'm like, so what I did was
• 1:40:20
  like I was like, Hey, I've had the Flat Earth episode, like
• 1:40:24
  just chill it in my thing like I need to edit it and it's a great
• 1:40:28
  conversation. Everybody was peaceful the
• 1:40:30
  person that doesn't believe in. It was still very respectful and
• 1:40:33
  didn't even like refer to it as a round earth the entire time.
• 1:40:37
  He's like, okay on the Flat Earth, you know, or whatever.
• 1:40:40
  And I was like, Early said on Friday because then I feel like
• 1:40:45
  I can show him, you know? I was like, listen to this case.
• 1:40:48
  How you doing Ali? But I wish you would have done
• 1:40:52
  for him because I don't think you did the homework to give
• 1:40:56
  this guy credit, you know, for the amount of work that he's
• 1:40:59
  done. Deeply, you basically just like,
• 1:41:01
  hey, look over here kid. This is how you really do it.
• 1:41:06
  This house really does. Like, why can't you just be
• 1:41:09
  nice? You know, that's what I told him
• 1:41:11
  after. It.
• 1:41:11
  I was like, I get not believing in it but I think people that
• 1:41:16
  call those people. Stupid are actually the stupid
• 1:41:19
  ones. You know, quote-unquote.
• 1:41:21
  Because you didn't even give the person a chance you literally
• 1:41:24
  called him stupid before you knew their background or
• 1:41:27
  anything. You know.
• 1:41:29
  I don't know if I mentioned it before, but I've had people in
• 1:41:30
  the show that I've, you know, personally, disagreed with on
• 1:41:33
  certain things. But, I always take the lowest
• 1:41:35
  Peru, Peru approach of just like, just listen because you're
• 1:41:39
  going to learn a lot whole lot more from them.
• 1:41:41
  When you make them comfortable and get them in a space you know
• 1:41:45
  I've done that before and how guests a surprising things that
• 1:41:48
  I did not know they were going to say because you know I didn't
• 1:41:52
  you know I maybe I asked him about something else and then
• 1:41:54
  they started talking about something and I'm like, whoo.
• 1:41:56
  I'm going to shut up and let them listen.
• 1:41:57
  Now, yeah, let them talk. Sorry.
• 1:42:00
  And that's exactly what Louis through does he.
• 1:42:02
  If you pay attention to his question in, he's kind of poking
• 1:42:06
  at these parties prodded him. He's like, Okay and like
• 1:42:09
  eventually he gets what he wants.
• 1:42:11
  Wants out of them, he gets information, but he doesn't make
• 1:42:13
  them feel stupid. He doesn't make them feel bad
• 1:42:16
  about themselves. He accepts them as they are and
• 1:42:18
  I think that's the sign of a professional broadcaster
• 1:42:22
  podcaster Creator, whatever. If you're interviewing people,
• 1:42:26
  you need to accept them as they are and treat them with respect.
• 1:42:30
  And because otherwise you just look like a you know it's like I
• 1:42:33
  see so many you know I think the reason one of the another reason
• 1:42:36
  why I don't like it as well or one reason why I do The style
• 1:42:42
  that I do is that I've seen so many chat shows over the years
• 1:42:47
  where the host kind of and maybe it's the showrunners fall, I
• 1:42:50
  don't know. But like you know they bring on
• 1:42:52
  this celebrity they got huge celebrity big movie star or
• 1:42:55
  whatever and you can ask them anything but there are some dumb
• 1:42:59
  fuck shit. Like I don't know.
• 1:43:01
  Where was the funniest place you had sex or you know like just
• 1:43:07
  just silly immature stuff and the whole thing is a joke like
• 1:43:10
  here's a really good example. Oh, I remember seeing Ryan
• 1:43:13
  Gosling on, Jimmy Fallon interview.
• 1:43:17
  Now, sorry to the guys on the podcast and the girls that have
• 1:43:20
  listened to this and me talk about this before, but it's just
• 1:43:23
  the best example. I can think of all right, so
• 1:43:25
  sorry, but yeah, basically Ryan Gosling, fantastic actor, plenty
• 1:43:30
  of that, he's got a beauty, he's got beautiful dog with him.
• 1:43:32
  Like there's so many things you can ask him, right?
• 1:43:34
  Yes, and you just got Jimmy Fallon laughing with his fake,
• 1:43:38
  laugh and being really annoying and importantly.
• 1:43:41
  Interrupting, Ryan, Gosling and laughing obnoxiously to the
• 1:43:46
  point where Ryan's given him a glare, like he's looking at him,
• 1:43:49
  like, what's wrong with you? Like you're just, you're ruining
• 1:43:52
  this. Yeah.
• 1:43:54
  And he'd like, Ryan is professional the whole time.
• 1:43:56
  Doesn't say anything just continues but you could tell
• 1:43:59
  it's infuriating him and I just think like man if that was me I
• 1:44:03
  could have had such a good interview with that guy made him
• 1:44:06
  feel really comfortable, probably got way more out of him
• 1:44:09
  than were just idiot who's just like Like, oh my God I'm so glad
• 1:44:16
  you're like that's literally all it is.
• 1:44:19
  It's no. Like and you're not giving
• 1:44:22
  anything to People by doing that.
• 1:44:24
  Like if you actually ask questions that can help somebody
• 1:44:27
  in the future like say Ryan Gosling had a drug problem or
• 1:44:31
  whatever, you know, and you got down to the core of that and he
• 1:44:34
  actually admitted it. And then you had people that are
• 1:44:37
  listening that have a drug problem and they see hope in
• 1:44:39
  this, you know, holy You came like really far from that, like,
• 1:44:43
  that touches people more than like, oh, where's the coolest
• 1:44:46
  place you had sex or whatever? Like, okay.
• 1:44:49
  Yeah, we all have those stories, but they don't really like teach
• 1:44:52
  us anything other than don't do it in public, or you can get
• 1:44:55
  arrested or whatever. Like just, it doesn't bring any
• 1:44:59
  kind of like, substantial content to the world.
• 1:45:02
  What are you even doing? You know, other than just
• 1:45:04
  pumping your name out there to me, you know, it's like I have a
• 1:45:07
  purpose. I'll play devil's advocate for a
• 1:45:09
  second. Yes, it does.
• 1:45:11
  Depend on the show. Because like, there are shows
• 1:45:13
  out there that like, okay, you know what, here's here's a show
• 1:45:17
  that does it really well? The Graham Norton Show in the
• 1:45:21
  UK. There's a you familiar with him
• 1:45:24
  or I'm not now, it doesn't matter.
• 1:45:26
  Okay, hit, I would argue, he's the probably, the best chat show
• 1:45:29
  host in the UK because he has huge people.
• 1:45:32
  Like, every famous actor musician.
• 1:45:35
  You can think of he has on his show, right?
• 1:45:38
  And he's able to kind of have these people.
• 1:45:41
  It's the setup is three celebrities on a sofa.
• 1:45:44
  It's quite fun because you get really weird matchup.
• 1:45:46
  Sometimes you get like someone who's only famous in the UK and
• 1:45:49
  then a huge American actor or something and then like some I
• 1:45:53
  don't know poet or some shit. Yeah, it's kind of funny, but he
• 1:45:57
  makes everyone feel special. Everyone feel good about
• 1:46:00
  themselves and he aches and feel comfortable.
• 1:46:03
  So he might ask like, I know. So, Ian McKellen, something like
• 1:46:05
  really serious but then he'll have a bit of fun with him and
• 1:46:09
  make him feel relaxed. And it's like, you get
• 1:46:11
  Everything that you want, that Graham is so good at that like
• 1:46:14
  he just makes you feel special, get some real insight from that
• 1:46:18
  actor. Like I guess what I'm saying is
• 1:46:20
  he's appealing to all parts of the audience because our
• 1:46:22
  audience is like to see the silly stuff and some audiences
• 1:46:25
  like to see the more serious stuff and you get everything on
• 1:46:30
  that show and that that for me, like if I was ever to do the
• 1:46:32
  Christian roof show, that's how I would do it.
• 1:46:35
  But you have the perfect name for by the way like I was like
• 1:46:40
  isn't there the famous? What's the Superman guy?
• 1:46:44
  Christopher, Reeve, okay, for the longest because I would
• 1:46:47
  always see you on Reddit like posting about looking for guests
• 1:46:51
  and stuff and I was like what the hell is that, please?
• 1:46:54
  Please cover my chair. Please know you do a good job of
• 1:46:58
  putting yourself out there because I know I've seen it
• 1:47:00
  multiple times and I can't tell if it's like been in different
• 1:47:02
  places but it made me. Remember your name obviously
• 1:47:05
  cool. But I kept thinking like what
• 1:47:11
  Why is it sound so familiar to me?
• 1:47:12
  His name was like and then I was like oh it's a Superman guy.
• 1:47:16
  Like it sounds like his name and I could not like get that past.
• 1:47:20
  I was like I'm gonna have to tell him that.
• 1:47:22
  I'm sure you hear it all the time, but it's a good name.
• 1:47:25
  Like to get out there. I'll take, I get everything
• 1:47:27
  again. Superman Jesus.
• 1:47:30
  Oh, you look like you look like Jake Gyllenhaal.
• 1:47:32
  Oh, I'm getting a lot of you look like Justin Trudeau at the
• 1:47:35
  moment. I'm getting a lot of know.
• 1:47:37
  I was thinking the guy I wanted to say Ewan McGregor or
• 1:47:42
  something, but I think I might be wrong because I'm really bad
• 1:47:44
  at. Hold on, let me look at this the
• 1:47:46
  first time I've gotten that, I'll take it.
• 1:47:48
  How do you even spelled it? You and is e wa n and in my book
• 1:47:54
  is MC let me see if I'm like just talking trash if I know
• 1:47:57
  what I'm talking about. Yeah, that sticks out of that
• 1:47:59
  Obi-Wan Kenobi, I'll take that. Oh, wait, that's not yours
• 1:48:02
  thinking of. I mean, I'll give it to you
• 1:48:05
  because you were excited about it.
• 1:48:07
  What is the guy? I've been told Christian Bale,
• 1:48:12
  been told I look like him. It's another British guy, but
• 1:48:15
  the British guy and he has Lisa Lynn Murphy.
• 1:48:19
  Probably thought that as well from peaky.
• 1:48:22
  Blinders. I don't know.
• 1:48:24
  I'll figure it out and then it's from like a really old.
• 1:48:26
  I think it's from, You've Got Mail.
• 1:48:28
  The guy Tom Hanks. No, I was gonna say I hate Tom
• 1:48:34
  Hanks don't do that. Why do you hate Tom Hanks?
• 1:48:38
  I think it's Tom Hanks, You've he has like some weird
• 1:48:42
  connections to some child sex trafficking stuff.
• 1:48:46
  Yeah I don't know it definitely improved or not though no but
• 1:48:49
  it's really really hard too. Disprove it.
• 1:48:54
  There's a lot going on. No, that is not what I was
• 1:48:56
  thinking either. Damn, I'll find the guy and I'll
• 1:48:59
  end up sending it to you. Then we'll have to like put it
• 1:49:01
  in the show notes. Follow up.
• 1:49:04
  She found him. But you look like him.
• 1:49:07
  Okay. Yeah.
• 1:49:07
  I got told I look like a lot of people and it's like, okay well
• 1:49:11
  that just means you look like you but little bits of everybody
• 1:49:14
  else. Nah, it means a lot that other
• 1:49:17
  people and I'm not unique, you sleep, like famous people
• 1:49:21
  because I always get like, man, you really look like my cousin's
• 1:49:24
  girlfriend's ex, you know, like some weird.
• 1:49:27
  Like I'm like cool. I don't know that person and
• 1:49:30
  thinks like a case that I've had that in my life.
• 1:49:35
  Before I remember there was this girl before.
• 1:49:39
  So my first year university that the year before I had bought my
• 1:49:45
  heart brokers. First Love was with this girl
• 1:49:47
  for like three years or something.
• 1:49:49
  And by the time I started University I'd gotten over her
• 1:49:52
  for the most part and then we went to some like party at this
• 1:49:56
  Pub. That was across the road from my
• 1:49:58
  University and there was a girl there that was like the spitting
• 1:50:03
  image of my ex-girlfriend. Like it, it was it actually
• 1:50:07
  freaked me out. Like I was looking at her like
• 1:50:09
  it's time, I can't be no. No, I don't chant the what but
• 1:50:14
  she looks she could be like Her twin what I like and I was like,
• 1:50:18
  I think I'm maybe I'm just seeing it but I still maintain
• 1:50:21
  it. That girl looked so much like my
• 1:50:22
  ex's freaky. It does not good.
• 1:50:25
  Yes. In the universe is like trying
• 1:50:26
  to mess with you. It's yes, but I found him Hugh
• 1:50:31
  Grant. Oh, you know, you're a younger
• 1:50:33
  version of. I guess it's the Four Weddings
• 1:50:38
  and a funeral phase, isn't it? And he's like, yeah, cool.
• 1:50:42
  If your eyes, like, something about, like yells eye shape is
• 1:50:45
  very Much. Maybe he's like a great, great
• 1:50:48
  uncle or something that you just don't know about wish.
• 1:50:51
  All right. Just some money here.
• 1:50:52
  Exactly. Let's move it forward.
• 1:51:00
  Yeah. So you're from Texas Lone Star
• 1:51:02
  State. What are the best and worst
• 1:51:04
  things about Texas. Um, Well, I love Texas.
• 1:51:10
  I was born and raised here, and literally live like a main
• 1:51:13
  street over from where I was born and raised.
• 1:51:17
  So, I've always been here, but never think about leaving, I
• 1:51:20
  think, because the economy stays pretty well-rounded housing
• 1:51:26
  prices, although they can get inflated and stuff, they still
• 1:51:30
  are less than a lot of other places in the United States
• 1:51:32
  where you would go - like rural places.
• 1:51:36
  I like the fact that it's a Where I'm at.
• 1:51:39
  Anyways, in Richardson is pretty heavily diverse.
• 1:51:43
  You have like Muslims blacks. Mexicans, you know why?
• 1:51:45
  It's I feel like my kids like a good sense of cultural Unity
• 1:51:51
  kind of thing. And so I don't know what I
• 1:51:55
  really like I guess the weather about Texas is good.
• 1:51:58
  I'm a summer person. I hate cold weather so are
• 1:52:00
  recent like snowpocalypse kind of crap?
• 1:52:03
  Has bad. I was model computed.
• 1:52:05
  It was so stupid. So if I hate Texas for one,
• 1:52:08
  Thing it's that they weren't prepared for shit like that
• 1:52:10
  because like actually okay so about Texas, the one thing is
• 1:52:15
  that nobody knows how to drive if it's raining.
• 1:52:19
  Or if there's ice it's like their whole world just collapsed
• 1:52:23
  and like we all lose our minds and you can't go to work.
• 1:52:26
  You can't go to school like which is ridiculous like drive a
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  little slower, but the same way you usually do and you'll be
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  fine. But I think, I mean, if I was I
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  have really liked Democratic person, I would say like oh it
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  sucks because it's really conservative here but it's
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  actually like a 50/50 mix. Now I think with the younger and
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  older Generations, so they say if it's becoming more and more
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  Multicultural, then you're going to have a bit more of a split
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  there. Really?
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  Because right Multicultural is going to be more liberal.
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  Obviously, exactly. Yeah, and we have, I mean,
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  california-based of like everybody moved here, like, two
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  years ago, California just came over here, so, but I didn't feel
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  feel a difference, you know, I feel like everybody in Texas
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  tends to be pretty accepting. I'm sure there's like small
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  towns that you can go to and find racist a-holes like you can
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  anywhere, but I've always had pretty good experiences here.
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  So all they really kind of like unique customs, that specific to
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  Texas. Now, the reason I ask this
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  questions, I was recently watching Joe Rogan's podcast and
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  he obviously recently moved from California to Texas and he was
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  saying to one of his guests that there's this unique texting.
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  Custom that like when you I guess that have a big property
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  or land or whatever. Like then people just give you
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  guns and he said he had like a 50 guns that people.
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  Yeah, that like people just give you guns I guess I'm guessing
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  he's got a ranch, something like that but apparently it's a text
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  over again. So who knows what?
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  You know. It's like they could pay him and
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  guns or cows or something. Just because he's famous I'll
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  pay you in 1847 S? I don't know.
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  No of, I mean we call like soda Coke.
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  I know that like a lot of other places they call it pop or soda
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  random. Yeah, it is really random but I
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  would say I'm a pretty bad example of like a Texan, you
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  know? Like a stereotypical.
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  I don't have like the southern accent.
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  I was very City raised so everything's been pretty.
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  I would say pretty much the same as if you were Any other big
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  city like Dallas, you know? But to me, it's just the never
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  given me a reason to leave. So, I feel like Southern
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  Hospitality is something. There's something to be said for
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  that. Cool man.
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  Awesome. Awesome.
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  Okay. This is a bit of a deep
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  question. Yes.
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  I've been asking a lot of my guests this recently, and it
• 1:54:59
  always has a fun response. What is the biggest life lesson
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  that you've learned so far? Oh my God, feel like I answered
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  this in another podcast to and I'm probably going to give a
• 1:55:12
  different answer. No, I'm probably going to give a
• 1:55:14
  different answer because I can't remember what I said.
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  I would say. Two.
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  Acknowledge that things only are happening at that current time
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  not to like like something that's so dramatic and so
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  painful and so like you can't get through it.
• 1:55:35
  Your life is over matters so little in like even sometimes a
• 1:55:40
  week's time but mainly in like five years, ten years like it's
• 1:55:44
  a story that you tell and sometimes even laugh about but
• 1:55:47
  it's nothing that it's something that made you grow and become
• 1:55:50
  who you were, it's not something that was so detrimental that you
• 1:55:54
  Even if you felt like it want you need to take your life or
• 1:55:57
  you know, like just completely house yourself or go do drugs or
• 1:56:00
  do something. Just because it's one thing
• 1:56:02
  happened. I think even now like being 33,
• 1:56:08
  I have to sit down and be like, okay, chill out.
• 1:56:11
  That was just a bad day. I'm not a bad mom.
• 1:56:14
  I'm you know, like no the house isn't clean but tomorrow, I'll
• 1:56:17
  clean it or whatever. Like even though it feels like
• 1:56:20
  my world around me is crumbling and I want to just like I've
• 1:56:23
  told Earl. Before I'm like I just want I
• 1:56:25
  might not come back after I go to my clients.
• 1:56:27
  They're like, that's how I feel. I just want to get out of here,
• 1:56:31
  but as soon as I have that time away, I'm like, okay.
• 1:56:35
  And I, you know, can appreciate everything for what it actually
• 1:56:37
  is. So being able to self-reflect is
• 1:56:40
  a huge thing to acquire, I think in your life and very important
• 1:56:47
  because if you can't do that, then you're never going to be
• 1:56:49
  able to like improve upon who you are and make you know, those
• 1:56:53
  Changes that are neat need to be made and noticing patterns, I
• 1:56:57
  would say, is another thing. If things keep happening to you
• 1:57:00
  the same way the constant in that is you and it hurts to hear
• 1:57:05
  it, but maybe you need to change yourself, you know.
• 1:57:10
  Nobody wants to hear that their, the shithead, you know, I don't
• 1:57:13
  want to. I always think I'm doing great
• 1:57:14
  things at the time, but looking back, it could have been a very
• 1:57:17
  bad way to approach a situation and I could have done it
• 1:57:20
  differently. So being self reflective I think
• 1:57:24
  in life is, which I guess is being humbled to, you know,
• 1:57:30
  nobody's impenetrable. We all have our mistakes and
• 1:57:33
  stuff. So those are my life lessons so
• 1:57:36
  far. I agree with come back in 20
• 1:57:40
  years. We'll see if I have better
• 1:57:41
  answers, right? Yeah.
• 1:57:45
  We should we draw things to a close for today.
• 1:57:47
  Do you have any upcoming projects or maybe some final
• 1:57:49
  thoughts that you'd like to share with us?
• 1:57:53
  Well, I mean, we're going to keep speculating about all
• 1:57:57
  different kinds of stuff that's going on.
• 1:57:59
  I think my main project obviously is to raise human
• 1:58:02
  beings that are good human beings in this world and not the
• 1:58:06
  opposite. But I do look forward to like
• 1:58:10
  bigger things happening with the podcast.
• 1:58:12
  Like you want for yours, I would love to stay home and, you know,
• 1:58:16
  do this for a living and be great.
• 1:58:19
  But mainly I think having in Your instance to like a sense of
• 1:58:24
  community and providing that for people because a lot of the
• 1:58:28
  times what we're seeing is what's on social media.
• 1:58:31
  And I don't know if you watch the social dilemma or not on
• 1:58:34
  Netflix. Did you know I don't think so.
• 1:58:37
  Okay. Go watch it because it's pretty
• 1:58:39
  much kind of what we all know is happening where you have data
• 1:58:42
  collected about what you click on and all this stuff, right?
• 1:58:45
  But it goes so deep into it that you've really realized that if
• 1:58:50
  what triggers you to comment on On something is the opposite of
• 1:58:54
  what you believe in. That's what you're always going
• 1:58:57
  to see because they want you to engage.
• 1:59:00
  So it's not that everybody out there is like that which it
• 1:59:03
  looks like when you go to your feed.
• 1:59:05
  It's that Facebook knows you're going to engage with that.
• 1:59:08
  And so you're seeing this consistent maybe depressing or
• 1:59:12
  upsetting material, right? And so for me, I had to get off
• 1:59:17
  of it. I was like, because every time I
• 1:59:19
  go on Facebook, then I'd make a post.
• 1:59:20
  Like, are you all crazy? Like We need to unite as one.
• 1:59:24
  We are dividing and dividing in this is not good.
• 1:59:27
  And you know, and then I was like, what am I even doing?
• 1:59:29
  I'm just gonna get off of it because it's depressing, you
• 1:59:31
  know? And providing a sense of
• 1:59:34
  community for people is like I always say I'm like I want to
• 1:59:37
  provide I want to like make a peaceful Cult of people like an
• 1:59:40
  Earl's always like stop calling it a cult but it is a cult
• 1:59:44
  because it's like a group and I just wanted all the like hug and
• 1:59:48
  just be happy with one another and like appreciate each other
• 1:59:51
  for our are you know things we can provide and you know her the
• 1:59:55
  good things and not stop focusing on everybody's bad
• 1:59:59
  things that you can nitpick and be a keyboard Warrior and you
• 2:00:02
  know, like that's not the purpose of our lives were
• 2:00:04
  supposed to love one another and take care of each other and help
• 2:00:08
  in any way we can. You know and maybe not that
• 2:00:11
  maybe that's a way that you you help people but you don't expect
• 2:00:14
  money from it if you don't need it, you know what I mean?
• 2:00:17
  And so I think getting off of Facebook and having a community
• 2:00:21
  that keeps building On the podcast and stuff and then
• 2:00:23
  meeting people like you and it's just like this constant like
• 2:00:27
  pile up. And So eventually, I'll have my
• 2:00:28
  peaceful cold and But I think that's my goal is just like I
• 2:00:34
  want to do way more good than I do bad like in the end.
• 2:00:40
  So awesome. Well listen.
• 2:00:42
  It's been an absolute pleasure. Having you on the show on a say
• 2:00:45
  a massive. Thank you.
• 2:00:47
  I look forward to having you on. Yeah, would love to appear of to
• 2:00:51
  yeah best of luck with the podcast and everything else in
• 2:00:54
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• 2:00:59
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