Response leaves kids stunned after calling out 'cultist' MAGA mom to her face

Systemic Error Podcast · Oct 4, 2026 · 4m

What happened

AlterNet reports that Mary Lou, a Trump supporter who appears with her children Chad Kultgen and Hailey Pop on The Necessary Conversation podcast, said during a Friday MS NOW segment that she might not vote for Trump again. Asked about a hypothetical future election, she answered that she would first have to see his opponent—a response that visibly surprised her children.

Pop called MAGA a “cult,” while Kultgen described their mother’s attachment to Trump merchandise as psychological programming disguised as investment. Mary Lou defended her vote and said Trump remained her…