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10-12 H3: Monday Morning QB w/ Hugh Millen · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Just a pissy weekend. Yeah. No question about it. There wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, there's no, nothing too flowery. I wasn't surprised
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  Speaker 2: by Friday, but, but yesterday was really that, that, that was,
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  Speaker 2: that was tough. That, that hurt. I, you know, I was,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sitting there just going, how can sports at my age,
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  Speaker 2: how can sports hurt, like hurt that bad, you know, in,
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  Speaker 2: in October, right. But man, you can get, you get
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  Speaker 2: into this stuff and, That was some kind of next-level frustration.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So what were you boiling about as you're leaving the
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  Speaker 1: stadium Sunday and you're getting in your car? What's the
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  Speaker 1: thing that most stuck in your crawl?
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  Speaker 2: Well, just all along, looking at those, you know, here
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  Speaker 2: are the 49ers. They got to look up at the
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  Speaker 2: scoreboard and see that they had 21 points and kind
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  Speaker 2: of actually feel okay about things. Through three quarters, they
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  Speaker 2: had 159 yards. Yeah. Brock Purdy had a 68 passer rating.
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  Speaker 2: They should have been answering questions about why do they
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  Speaker 2: have a Mike McDonald problem. And there should have been
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  Speaker 2: a tension like, oh my God, we're getting shut out again.
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  Speaker 2: And just the turnovers that allowed the score to be
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  Speaker 2: the way it was, it just kind of gave them
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  Speaker 2: breathing room that they didn't earn. At all. That offense.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. Mike McDonald stoned Kyle Shanahan once again. But then,
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  Speaker 2: you know, hey, now in the fourth quarter, Brock Purdy
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  Speaker 2: had 138 passer rating. You know, that's legit. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think if Mike Evans is not a San Francisco 49ers,
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  Speaker 2: Seattle wins that game. That's not a terribly revealing claim
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  Speaker 2: because we all saw it. So there was elements. that
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  Speaker 2: kind of fell apart from Seattle. And their pressure rating
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  Speaker 2: prior to Purdy's interception, their pressure rating was 52.5%. After
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  Speaker 2: Purdy's interception, 15.4%. So this fourth quarter, no pressure, no
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  Speaker 2: pass rush. We've seen it a few times this year.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a little bit concerning, but I just think
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  Speaker 2: there's a universe, one universe over, where the Seahawks did
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  Speaker 2: not turn the ball over. And the crowd is suffocating.
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  Speaker 2: And there is such pressure on that 49er sideline. Like,
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  Speaker 2: what can we do here? And it's a snowball against them,
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  Speaker 2: a lot like what we saw in Week 18. And
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  Speaker 2: almost in the playoff game. You know, so at any rate,
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  Speaker 2: that's the frustrating part is that that Brock Purdy, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I like Brock Purdy. If he wasn't the 49er quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if he was, you know, down in the
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  Speaker 2: AFC South or something, I'd probably like his game. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I admire what he does for a relatively limited skill
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  Speaker 2: set or at least conventionally his skill set. But. He's
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  Speaker 2: not in the AFC South. He's the 49er quarterback. And
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  Speaker 2: I can't stand the little punk. And I want that
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  Speaker 2: same thing with Kyle Shanahan. And you know who I
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  Speaker 2: knew I played for his dad. I've been at his
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  Speaker 2: house when he was 15 years old. There's photos of
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  Speaker 2: him standing right behind us in quarterback meetings with, with
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  Speaker 2: John Elway and all that. Like, so they're the 49ers
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  Speaker 2: and we let them off the hook. Yeah. sure is
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  Speaker 2: that is that a dentist screen yeah that's a dentist
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  Speaker 2: i like it they are who we thought they were
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  Speaker 2: and we let them off the hook we let them
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  Speaker 2: off the hook so um yeah very angry about all
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  Speaker 2: that um the way it.
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  Speaker 1: It just kind of uh disappeared on them all right
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  Speaker 1: well there's there's a lot there and i want to
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  Speaker 1: get into break all of that down um but let's
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and start with the fumbles um because if
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  Speaker 1: you're at the end of the half i mean how
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  Speaker 1: does that happen i mean just the coaching philosophy on
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  Speaker 1: that play, and then the player philosophy to not have
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  Speaker 1: a death grip on a football in that situation. George
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  Speaker 1: Helani fumbles in his own end zone with 10 seconds
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  Speaker 1: to go in the half. How does that happen in
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  Speaker 1: a professional football world?
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's a few things going wrong there, but let's
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  Speaker 2: set this stage there and why Seattle was trying to
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  Speaker 2: avoid punting. Now, you could say you could punt it
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  Speaker 2: out of bounds, but there is a very rare NFL rule.
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  Speaker 2: People are going to think that I'm hallucinating. You know
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  Speaker 2: how AI can hallucinate? People who don't know this rule
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  Speaker 2: think I'm making it up. Anders, have you heard the
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  Speaker 2: fair catch rule and free field goal attempt rule? No.
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  Speaker 2: Enlighten me. I know this because Jim Harbaugh did it
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  Speaker 2: one time. It's happened in rare occasions. What Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 2: may have been thinking about, if Dixon hunted out of
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  Speaker 2: the end zone, let's say with seven seconds, and the
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  Speaker 2: 49ers call a fair catch, the 49ers could have lined
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  Speaker 2: up and kicked a field goal with no pass rush
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  Speaker 2: or with no field goal rush. The Seahawks would have
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  Speaker 2: had to step aside, and it would have looked like
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  Speaker 2: practice against error. And the 49er kicker could have taken
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  Speaker 2: his time, just spot the ball, be like Charlie Brown
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  Speaker 2: and Lucy, just looking at the ball as long as
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  Speaker 2: he wants with no rush. And it has to be
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  Speaker 2: on a fair catch off a punt. It's a very
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  Speaker 2: bizarre rule, but it has happened. So perhaps that was
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  Speaker 2: part of the calculus, but I understand– not taking the knees.
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  Speaker 2: What I don't understand is running the wide zone. And
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  Speaker 2: when you run the wide zone, there's more chance for penetration.
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  Speaker 2: And when you watch Jalen Sendell, if you're coaching Christian
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  Speaker 2: Haynes right now, you're saying, look, I know that you're
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  Speaker 2: worried about getting to the linebacker, but you're on the
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  Speaker 2: damn goal line. you've got like, that looked like man blocking. Like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: the center, you got the nose tackle. Guard, you just
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  Speaker 2: go scream up to the linebacker. There was no zone
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  Speaker 2: blocking at all in that. It's the wide zone. And
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  Speaker 2: the urgency to protect the A-gap was just completely disavowed.
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  Speaker 2: So when Mike McDonald steps up to the press conference,
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  Speaker 2: at post game. And, you know, and, and, and I
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  Speaker 2: asked him, you know, just say, Hey, walk through your
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  Speaker 2: plan there. You ran wide zone, uh, you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of trying to hint to him. Does he second guess
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  Speaker 2: running that particular scheme? I wasn't second guessing whether they
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  Speaker 2: ran the ball. Cause I understand that, you know, the,
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  Speaker 2: the need or the desire not to, uh, not to punt,
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  Speaker 2: you know, can get blocked. If you punt it out
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  Speaker 2: of bounds, you know, the clock stops and they could
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  Speaker 2: kick a field goal on the next play or that
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  Speaker 2: crazy fair catch rule that I just said. So there's
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  Speaker 2: some good reasons to run the football, but, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the elevator yesterday, you know, Tim Ryan, who
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  Speaker 2: I think is an excellent analyst, you know, we're kind of,
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  Speaker 2: and I just said, I said, why do you run
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  Speaker 2: the stretch there? Just run inside zone and get out
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  Speaker 2: of there. You know, just get out of there. And
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  Speaker 2: he said, that's exactly what I said on the air. Like,
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  Speaker 2: if you run inside zone, you're coming, you know, you're
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  Speaker 2: plunging more into the middle. You run the wide zone,
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  Speaker 2: there's more of an opportunity for what happened. But still,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're professionals. Your guard has got to help
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  Speaker 2: the center. And your running back has got to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just don't you sense that the center's losing that block?
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  Speaker 2: Don't you feel that? Doesn't your peripheral vision inform you
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  Speaker 2: of what you have to do from a ball security standpoint?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It was just really appalling, shocking. I
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  Speaker 2: was just numb. Couldn't believe at halftime that that happened. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, even if you took a– Holani, if he
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  Speaker 2: gets tackled, obviously his safety is preferable to what happened.
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  Speaker 2: But I just say run inside zone. Tell your guys, look,
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  Speaker 2: make sure there's no linebackers shooting any gaps, which the
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  Speaker 2: whole scheme would account for anyways, and away you go. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's very poor blocking. Yeah. To allow that to happen. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this, it wasn't just Helani, but I knew,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think that Helani actually gained favor in your
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  Speaker 1: eyes yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: I was pretty sure of that as I was watching. Well, look,
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  Speaker 2: I think you guys know how I feel about Helani.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to detract from him. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's doing the best he can. I'm just saying he's
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  Speaker 2: a third string running back on anybody's depth chart across
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  Speaker 2: the league. And we're all digging and fight somebody as
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  Speaker 2: if somebody tries to say he's anything but that. And
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  Speaker 2: then I hear, well, he's a pass rush specialist. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a minute, I've been watching the tape.
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  Speaker 2: Are you effing kidding me? And so I need somebody
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  Speaker 2: to write shotgun on this claim because I think that's
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of nonsense. Well, I jumped on Pro Football
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  Speaker 2: Focus about an hour ago, and there are, what did
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  Speaker 2: I say, 73 running backs who have more than five
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  Speaker 2: pass blocks. Helani's up in the high 20s. Um, he
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  Speaker 2: has the low, his 16.1 grade is 73rd out of 73. Whoa.
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  Speaker 2: Does that sound like a pass blocking specialist? He had
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  Speaker 2: a game where he was zero. And just so you know,
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  Speaker 2: a PFF run that you start at 60. And if
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  Speaker 2: you have a good play, then you're above 60. If
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  Speaker 2: you have a bad play, you're below 60. And so
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  Speaker 2: everything off that's their methodology. So when you hear like 87,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's like how, like, Oh, Whoa, they're grading
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  Speaker 2: either a one or a hat, a 0.5 or a 1.5.
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  Speaker 2: And then, and then they can, they can raise their, uh,
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  Speaker 2: the grade. And then it's divided by number of snaps.
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  Speaker 2: So there, there's some, um, machinations to that, but to
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  Speaker 2: be at 16.1, all you need to know is 73rd
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  Speaker 2: out of 73. So please don't call them a password,
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  Speaker 2: a blocking specialist, not a specialist on anything in the offense. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And so, um, you know, here, here you have yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: you go, um, you know, wide zone is, is your specialty, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like that's, you're supposed to, you're trying to major in
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  Speaker 2: wide zone and you've been top last two years, your
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  Speaker 2: top five in terms of frequency. So yesterday you go 10,
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  Speaker 2: 10 carries on wide zone for 21 yards. Um, separate
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  Speaker 2: from that, you have a 20% success rate. That's 40%
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  Speaker 2: of the needed yards on first down, 60% of the
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  Speaker 2: needed yards on second down are all the needed yards
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  Speaker 2: on third and fourth down. That's a successful play. They're 20%
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  Speaker 2: on wide zone. And by the way, Jadarian Price averaged
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  Speaker 2: 4.6 yards per attempt on the wide zone. So they
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  Speaker 2: are really missing a dude who has the juice to
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  Speaker 2: run the scheme. Yeah. And I would say now I
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  Speaker 2: have not studied. Usually when I make a claim, I
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  Speaker 2: like to have some facts behind it. So this is
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  Speaker 2: going to be relatively or actually entirely void of real
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  Speaker 2: facts behind it. But here's my gut intuition. If you
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  Speaker 2: said you got a grade, the running backs in the
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  Speaker 2: NFL right now is presently constituted. One through 32, no ties.
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  Speaker 2: The Seattle Seahawks are number 32 at running back. You're
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  Speaker 2: trying to win football games with the worst running back
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  Speaker 2: group in the NFL. Sorry, I know that sounds harsh. Yeah. But... No,
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you. Tell me I'm a liar. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: And you're going to be without Charbonnet for another game,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like. And Price is on the IR, so...
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're at risk of falling to
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  Speaker 1: 3-3 if you lose on a short week against Denver
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  Speaker 1: at Denver, not an easy place to play. And you're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to have the same two running backs
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  Speaker 1: that you've been using because there's clearly no faith in
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  Speaker 1: Velas Jones and Robert Henry Jr. I don't think was
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  Speaker 1: brought in to be the savior of the running game.
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  Speaker 1: And so you're going to have to figure out a
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  Speaker 1: way to win with the same two guys Thursday, it
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  Speaker 1: sounds like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, and I do not believe that
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  Speaker 2: that Charbonnet is going to be a panacea. I think
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  Speaker 2: Charbonnet was a solid number two before he got hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's a year older and coming off of, he
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  Speaker 2: didn't tear one, he tore two ligaments. So I think
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  Speaker 2: he'll be better. But I don't expect him to be
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  Speaker 2: better than he was a year ago.
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  Speaker 1: Do you?
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  Speaker 2: No. I mean, I think he'll be better than what
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  Speaker 2: we have. Right. But is he going to be better
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  Speaker 2: than what our eyes have seen in the past? No. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that would defy common sense. But we could use what
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  Speaker 2: he was. Yeah. We could use what he was, but,
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  Speaker 2: you know, look, that's a best-case scenario. Yeah. And if
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  Speaker 2: you can find no discernible loss between– last year and
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  Speaker 2: this year, then that's a win. Yes. That's a win.
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  Speaker 2: We may see a discernible loss for those reasons. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: he's more timid, whatever. Maybe he just doesn't have the explosion.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he can't cut with the same torque on his knee.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of good reasons why we won't see
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  Speaker 2: the same Charbonnet. But let's just give the Seahawks that
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  Speaker 2: we're going to see the same Charbonnet. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: not like you're seeing a top 15 running back in
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  Speaker 2: the league. Um, I mean, you know, if, if what
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  Speaker 2: I say is true, I don't think you're a top
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  Speaker 2: 30 running back in the league. Well, yeah. But if
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  Speaker 2: you want to just tell me that if you want
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  Speaker 2: to argue, he's a, he's a, you know, a bottom
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  Speaker 2: third or bottom quarter, uh, quartile, uh, starting running back. I,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm not going to quibble with the details,
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  Speaker 2: but he's not a, you know, he's not some kind of, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, top 10, top 15 elite back. So, uh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The only saving grace is that Kenneth Walker's clearly fallen
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  Speaker 1: on his face in Kansas City.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, if we're 32, I could
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  Speaker 2: bet anything that Casey's probably number one. Yeah, well, and
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  Speaker 2: by the way, while I was looking that up, Kenneth
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  Speaker 2: Walker has the second highest pass block. Oh, geez. In
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  Speaker 2: the NFL. Oh, my gosh. Only David Montgomery is on it.
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  Speaker 2: While having the most scrimmage yards through a week. Now,
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  Speaker 2: he has been solid throughout his career. He hasn't been exceptional.
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  Speaker 2: You can win with his pass blocking, but right now,
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  Speaker 2: he's trying to dunk on somebody because the way he's
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  Speaker 2: running and evidently the way he's pass blocking, I haven't
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  Speaker 2: studied it, so I'm just reciting the numbers here. We're
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  Speaker 2: getting from PFF. But I have studied the Seattle Seahawks. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the idea that Helani is a pass for
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  Speaker 2: a specialist, that's enough to have me cleaning up coffee
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  Speaker 2: all over my desk after I spit it out. Our
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  Speaker 2: QB1 is with us.
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Millen, the Monday morning quarterback, felt like we needed
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  Speaker 1: to go that far with the running backs here this morning,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll probably circle back to that. But there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of other things to break down from this game.
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  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold's performance yesterday. Josh Jobes versus Mike Evans. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're just getting started here on this Monday with our
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  Speaker 1: QB1 on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM. tell me in the
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  Speaker 1: offseason this was the perfect addition for the 49ers. And
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  Speaker 1: my reaction was like, oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He's good. That's a good addition. But I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how big of a difference could he possibly
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  Speaker 1: make at this stage in his career? Well, he certainly
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  Speaker 1: was a big difference in the game yesterday. And frankly,
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was a fair question from the Seattle
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  Speaker 1: media horde in the press conference yesterday of Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 1: of why you didn't consider changing off of Josh Jobe
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  Speaker 1: to someone who, you know, isn't getting schooled by Evans
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  Speaker 1: like he was in the fourth quarter. And Mike didn't
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  Speaker 1: like the question whatsoever. So I'll pose it to you.
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  Speaker 1: Why not change off of Josh Jobe in that situation?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. You know, you looked at Devin Witherspoon.
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  Speaker 2: You traditionally think now Witherspoon is, yes, he's a cornerback
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  Speaker 2: because the league has to put some position next to
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  Speaker 2: his name. But I think he's so versatile in how
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  Speaker 2: he plays in the slot. He's a nickel strong side backer.
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  Speaker 2: He's a nickel weak side backer. Very versatile. But the
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  Speaker 2: fact is there was a time there before Christian Gonzalez
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  Speaker 2: signed his contract that Witherspoon was the highest paid corner
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL, in the history of the league. And
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  Speaker 2: he was targeted, Witherspoon, twice. No catches by Evans. But
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  Speaker 2: against Job, six of seven, 98 yards, one touchdown. Now,
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  Speaker 2: when we talk about traveling in a matchup, that's dictated
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  Speaker 2: by the defense. The defense can move around all they
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  Speaker 2: want before the snap of the ball. And so if
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  Speaker 2: you want to match somebody up, the defense can make
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  Speaker 2: that happen. The offense doesn't– the offense ultimately doesn't decide that.
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  Speaker 2: And so, you know, who I found myself thinking a
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: lot about was Reek Woolen and Reek Woolen was an enigma.
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  Speaker 2: We don't need to recite the problems with Reek Woolen and,
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  Speaker 2: and what have you, and the lack of competitiveness sometimes,
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  Speaker 2: but he was the guy in man to man, the
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  Speaker 2: most critical series of the entire season at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the NFC championship game, Reek Woolen, was right there
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: in man-to-man on Puka Nakua. So Mike McDonough was telling
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  Speaker 2: you what he thought of Reek Wollin, and Reek Wollin
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  Speaker 2: would have been a great matchup option for him yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: I'm quite sure he would have been the guy. But
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  Speaker 2: that size, you know, it's tough right now. Seattle's kind of–
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  Speaker 2: they're hurting in that regard. And as great as Witherspoon is,
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonough doesn't seem to want to travel with him. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Why not Eamon Worry? Does that make sense at all?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's your longest guy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I know that it might take him away
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  Speaker 1: from another area that you're counting on him being, but
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  Speaker 1: I mean, when Mike Evans is just their entire offense,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: doesn't it make sense that if he's out jumping and outside?
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Jobe for an.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Entire quarter, an entire half that, I mean, even more,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: he can cover. And it's not like Mike Evans has
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: blazing speed. I mean, even more, he's far faster than
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: he is and just about the same size. I mean,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: would that have been a possibility there?
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Well, then you say, okay, if you line him up outside,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: because most of the damage was done. I mean, he
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: had a– he was in the slot on a third
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: and seven for the 13 yards, if you remember, over
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: by the sideline. It was kind of off-script play. He
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: also had a bender that he had for 15 yards,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: which the league– technically said Eamon Worry was the target.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: So officially Eamon Worry was targeted once, one reception, 15 yards.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Now that's a zone where he's the underneath guy and
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: there's a safety that can be in play as well too.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: That was on a first and 20. But most of
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: these plays, he was, I believe of his seven catches,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: he was the widest receiver on five, widest receiver in
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: the formation. So now you're going to put him at
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: corner and it's, does it, is he going to play zone?
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Does he understand all of the spacing and the requirements
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: and the run fits and what have her in zone,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: or they're just going to chase him man to man? Uh,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I would expect as good as even warrior is probably
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Mike Evans would find a way to, uh, you know,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: to separate, uh, just because of the experience.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Uh, but, You know, I don't think it's an absurd thought.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: It's just it takes a lot more. That's a lot
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: more expensive. And when coaches talk about expensive, they mean time.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: How much time on task? Like how much reps do
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: we need to get? We're going to put him at corner.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: There's so much to learn in the terminology and there's
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: other facets unless you want to just chase a man
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: to man. But I certainly understand why they didn't do it. But,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: you know, that touchdown– that you just played there, that
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: was a running play, and most RPOs are from shotgun,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: give the quarterback a little space, but that's Purdy just
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: backpedaling and knowing that Evans is going to win on
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: a slant inside. And, you know, it's a big-body guy.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: We're going to see big-body receivers in the future, and
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: it's a concern because you don't have Rick Wallen. Well,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: what was Job doing wrong in the matchup? Well, I'll
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: give credit to Tampa on that. When you go one-on-one
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: in the red zone, actually I'll tell this quick anecdote
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: and it's reflective of what happens in actual games. When
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: you go one-on-one in a practice session, let's say you're
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: in training camp. You know, quarterback and receiver come up.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: We talk about what route. When you're out in the
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: middle field, you've got literally dozens and scores over 100
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: different routes you can run out at the 50-yard line.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: You get down to the one or two-yard line, everybody's
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: kind of looking at each other, well, do you want
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: a slant or a fade? You know, because that's like
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: all there is in one-on-one press. And, you know, maybe
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: a quick out and credit the offensive coordinator there With
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Mike Evans, with Kyle Shanahan, they had him at a
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: split where he still was a threat to have an
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: outbreaking route. And if you go back to the Cardinals,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: they had Trey McBride as an X receiver, and his
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: split was reduced, and McBride beat Jobe on a five-yard
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: out route for a touchdown. And I know that Mike
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: McDonald was upset. Like, Hey, you know, he's going to
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: run an out route from that split. Well, Mike Evans
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: split was just kind of in this nebulous neutral where
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: it's close enough to the ball that he could still
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: run an out route, but it's far enough than ball
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: that he could still run a slant. And so they
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: hit it. They, they get it like just the perfect
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: sweet spot. And this is when I talk about Chuck
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: and Anders, the, the, The precisions in the details, if
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: you are a wider split there, then Job can say, oh,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I'm playing the slam, right? I'd have to worry about
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: the fade as well. But he wouldn't have had that
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: specter of the outbreaking route like he lost against Trey McBride.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Had he been further inside, he'd say, well, I'm not
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: worried about the slam. I've got help. I just got
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: to play the out. and the, and the go. So
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: from where he was without the help, and that's another
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: part is not helping him. You know, he had to
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: defend the out route, the go route and the, and
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: the slant, the, so a three-way break in, out and,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: and vertical. And, and, and probably the one that ticked
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: me off, if you wanted to, to argue that Mike
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: McDonald got out coached and you go searching for evidence,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's a lot of evidence at all.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Like you're not going to, you know, you're not going
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: to pitch a shutout, right? Right. Um, but of the
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Mike Evans catches the seventh one, it was third down.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I want to say, I know it was third and
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: long dark gone. And I didn't write the, um, the, uh, the,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: the down and distance, but I think it was third
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: and it might've been even third and 15 or something.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: But I remember just going this Mike Evans, uh, you know,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: start right next to Crabtree. I'd like this guy. It's like,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: he's Superman. Can we please just cloud and put a
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: safety over the top? Well, they go trips left, Shanahan,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: and Mike Evans as the single receiver on the right,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: and Seattle pushed the coverage to the trips, which left
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Jobe open on the boundary. And, you know, they throw
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: the go-route, and they get the, you know, on the
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: third and long, might have even been third and 20.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: It was second and 21. Second and 21. Yeah, and
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: they got a 28-yard first down complete. and I wrote
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: down in bold letters, enough of Job on Evans already.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: So there you go. Well, you got single covered. Now,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: in the first quarter, they did a similar coverage, and
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Evans ran a go-route, and Job was right there, and
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: the ball was harmlessly out of bounds. So McDonald had
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: a rep with that coverage, again, pushing to the trips
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: and leaving Job solo on the backside of And Job won.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: But as Brock Purdy heated up and the pressure went down,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: we mentioned his pressure rate for the interception was 1-2,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: actually 52.5%. And then it went down to 1-7. So
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Purdy started to feel he got in a rhythm. And
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: so now the bad pass in the first quarter on
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: the same play was now the perfectly placed pass in
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. So I thought that that might be,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: you know, I could count on one hand that really
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: the areas substantively where maybe McDonald got outcoached. But that
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: would be one of them. Yeah.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Hugh Mellon is with us. Monday morning quarterback session. Unfortunately,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: talking about a loss. 32-29 to the San Francisco 49ers
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: at Lumen Field yesterday. And suddenly this team's two and
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: a half games out of first place. in the division
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: just five games in to the season. But we've got
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: a lot more to discuss from yesterday's game. We'll get
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: into Sam Darnold and his role in that loss coming
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: up at 9 o'clock, and maybe a chance to talk
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: about some other things in our next segment that actually
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: were on the positive side.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 93.3, KJRFM. Yeah. I hate that team. The
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: thing is, I like them other than they're in our division. Yeah.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: You like the way they play ball. There's a lot
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: of things I like about them other than they're our
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: damn rival. Even McCaffrey. I mean, I got pictures hanging
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: out with Ed and Lisa's wife, and she's pregnant, and
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: inside her belly is freaking Christian. Wow. And so I
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: would otherwise be predisposed to love the kid, but week
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: 18 last year, successful runs, guys. I'm going to repeat
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: it again. 40% of the needed yards on first down, 60%
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: of the needed yards on second down, all of the
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: needed yards on third and fourth down. In Week 18
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: last year, McCaffrey, 2 of 8, 25%. In the playoff game,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: 4 of 11, 36%. Yesterday, 9 of 11, 82% successful
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: runs for McCaffrey. And that was the fun part is
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: just hammering McCaffrey and hammering Purdy last year. And, you know,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: it started that way with Purdy. he kind of slipped
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: away from him and McCaffrey, you know, didn't set any
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: individual records. Uh, you know, it's not his best, but
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: pretty good day for him. He probably, uh, in his
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: mind thought, well, you know, against this defense, uh, it
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: could be a lot worse. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: he had three yards per carry over three games, uh,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: So Kept him bottled up a year ago. He was
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: better certainly yesterday, but we'll see when you face him
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: down the road and there are 42 more injured 49ers.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: when we face them again. Yeah, and I do want
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: to bring up Sam Darnold, his role in this coming up,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: but I'll save that for the top of the hour.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Certainly on a Monday, even after a loss, you had
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: good performances from the football team. yesterday, and I just
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: wanted to throw a few out and ask you which
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: one stood out to you. Byron Murphy seemed to have
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: one of his best games. Looks like Jason Myers is
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: a kicker, is back on track. He was perfect yesterday.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Nehemiah Pritchett made a couple huge plays that created turnovers,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: and JSN's always good for one of those fantastic touchdown drives.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: It feels like every single game he has some big
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: highlight-making play. So of those or anybody else who stood
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: out to you as having good days for the Seahawks yesterday.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Quickly, I'll touch on those. I think that the second
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: sack by Murphy was maybe, yeah, DeMarcus Lawrence kind of
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: forced Purdy maybe into the sack. So I'm not sure
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I would heap all the praise on Murphy, but Murphy
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: was great. You know, if he could do that every game, well,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: that would be 34 sacks and he would he would
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: be the first billion dollar, uh, defensive tackle, uh, you know,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: salary cap be damned. But, um, so yes, of course, uh, he,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: he was fantastic. Couldn't have come at a better time
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: to have Myers. I mean, I felt like we needed
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: every single one of those and just beautiful ball flight, uh,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: you know, uh, a slow rotation. There wasn't any, you know,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: pushing or pulling. Um, so, So he's locked in. That's
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: a really good thing. Pritchett. Pritchett. Yeah, you know, I
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: think the interception, you give credit to McDonald. That technique
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: that they used, I haven't heard Tom Brady's analysis. Of course,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I think he knows more football than anybody who walked
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: planet Earth when you consider all facets of football. You know,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: maybe you could find a defensive coordinator somewhere that knows
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: a lit, you know, 5% more on a, on a
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: whiteboard than him. But then you take all the things
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: that he knows about being on the field and looking at,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: at defenders and, and, and knowing what works and how
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: guys tip blitzes. And so I think, I think when
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady talks, you know, I listen, I hope people listen.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I'm going to try and catch that tape, but, but
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: maybe discuss this, maybe he didn't, but they were playing
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: kind of a two-catch. Some people called it palms, where
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: what's happening is that the safety and the corner are
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: watching the release of number two, the slot receiver. And
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: if he triggers into the flat, the corner can come down,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: and then the safety has to be over the top
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: if the widest receiver runs on a go route. And
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: so it's an adaptive approach. too deep. If both receivers
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: went vertical, then the corner would go vertical. So Purdy
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: got tricked on what the technique was. And so that interception,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I think, is more on Mike McDonald. And so if
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: we're going to sit here and talk about times that
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: an occasion where Kyle Shanahan won the battle, certainly you
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: have to point to that play That's a coach. That's
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: a coach. It wasn't checkmate because we didn't knock over
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: their king and we didn't win the football game. But
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: that's like taking an interception like that. It's like taking
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: the queen, I would think. That's a pretty good chess
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: move by Mike McDonald. Yeah. Tom Brady called it Cathy coverage,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: by the way. That's pretty cool. Yeah. There's different terms. Yeah.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: But it has to do with the relatively complex reading
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: of the release of one and two, who's in the flat,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: and then the corner can trigger on the flat as
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: opposed to have to run with the takeoff from the outside.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: You hand over the takeoff on the outside to the safety.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: All right, well, let's talk Sam in our next segment. JSN,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Cooper Cup not quite getting the call on that ploy
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: at the end of the game, so a lot more
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: to discuss with our QB1. Monday morning, quarterback rolls on
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: right here on Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.