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RUSH HOUR: Angels TV/radio man Trent Rush is the Swiss Army knife of broadcasters; he does it all · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

0:09
Speaker 1: Well, the Dodgers are trailing the Brewers in their National
0:12
Speaker 1: League Championship Series. The Rams just lost Monday night in
0:16
Speaker 1: an overtime nail-biter to the Bills and are 2-3. This
0:19
Speaker 1: is a team some thought might go undefeated this year.
0:23
Speaker 1: The Chargers are 0-5. The Kings haven't won a game yet.
0:26
Speaker 1: And we just finished a season where the Angels lost
0:29
Speaker 1: 100 games for the first time in franchise history. So
0:34
Speaker 1: LA Sports is definitely having a moment right now. Not
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Speaker 1: sure how I'd describe it. But on that note, we
0:39
Speaker 1: welcome Trent Rush, Angels TV radio broadcaster. Trent, how you doing?
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.
0:46
Speaker 3: Well, I was doing well.
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Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden I'm in gloom and it's cloudy.
0:49
Speaker 2: What the heck is going on around here? Let's go.
0:53
Speaker 1: Well, knowing those Dodgers, they can turn it around in
0:55
Speaker 1: a hurry. So we are taping on Wednesday before Game 3.
1:01
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens in Game 3. That series
1:04
Speaker 1: could turn on a heartbeat.
1:05
Speaker 2: You never know.
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Speaker 4: I think your colleague called for Shohei to be pined.
1:09
Speaker 2: Oh, I know. How about that, Trent?
1:11
Speaker 1: You read Bill Shakin in the LA Times today?
1:13
Speaker 2: Shango was to bench Shohei?
1:16
Speaker 1: Trumbo was giving me grief because I wanted to drop
1:19
Speaker 1: him down to seven in the order. I just thought
1:21
Speaker 1: that he'd be shamed into hitting again. And Bill Shakin
1:25
Speaker 1: came right out. No, he said not only should he
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Speaker 1: be benched, he should be taken off the playoff roster.
1:31
Speaker 2: So replaced completely.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so I— I know it's your show, but if
1:34
Speaker 3: you don't mind, I'm just used to it. I want
1:36
Speaker 3: to ask Mark a question here. I floated the idea
1:40
Speaker 3: on Channel 11 about actually moving him up in the lineup,
1:43
Speaker 3: a la like what Joe Maddon would do when guys
1:46
Speaker 3: are struggling. I mean, I don't know. I wouldn't bench him.
1:49
Speaker 3: That's kind of where I'm at.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think this is a tough one. He's got
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Speaker 4: unbelievable ability, as we've seen, but– when he's cold and if,
2:01
Speaker 4: especially if he's injured and battling some sort of injury,
2:04
Speaker 4: I'm not sure I see an easy solution. Uh, the
2:08
Speaker 4: best course is probably to let him swing it out. Uh,
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Speaker 4: unfortunately it sounds like he's not able to do all
2:13
Speaker 4: those extra reps that he probably wants to, to try
2:16
Speaker 4: and find it. You really don't be trying to find
2:18
Speaker 4: it this time of the year anyway. Um, and as
2:20
Speaker 4: far as managing his workload, and I mean, that's already
2:24
Speaker 4: a hurdle in itself with the pitching, uh, It's just
2:27
Speaker 4: a bad time to be dealing with this. And he
2:30
Speaker 4: is one of those guys. They have a lot of
2:32
Speaker 4: extra weapons, but he's one that they absolutely count on
2:35
Speaker 4: and are going to need to make this happen. But
2:39
Speaker 4: the Brewers, even with a healthy Shohei, I'm not sure
2:42
Speaker 4: that's enough. They've got an outstanding club. I think that's
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Speaker 4: the absolute pinnacle of what every team should be looking
2:49
Speaker 4: to aim towards. I think the Halos, I mean, that's
2:53
Speaker 4: a nice blueprint. It's going to be tough to get
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Speaker 4: there quickly, but I think that's kind of part of
2:58
Speaker 4: what we were thinking. I wanted to start out with
3:01
Speaker 4: a question for you. I think you did a very
3:03
Speaker 4: admirable job doing play-by-play with ABTV this year. I think
3:07
Speaker 4: for those that haven't, I've been in the booth kind
3:10
Speaker 4: of able to witness it. It's very difficult. It moves
3:13
Speaker 4: very quickly. Maybe you could just talk about how pumped
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Speaker 4: you were for the opportunity, how tough it is to
3:18
Speaker 4: go between that uh and doing some pre post game
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Speaker 4: radio um just the the how do you manage your
3:26
Speaker 4: time and how do you prepare for for a gig like.
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Speaker 3: That yeah well i'm trying to make up for in
3:31
Speaker 3: the off season now but we got so much going
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Speaker 3: on it's been it's been difficult thank you for the
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Speaker 3: kind words it it was, it's difficult. It's a hard job.
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Speaker 3: And it's funny. You think about what are the three
3:42
Speaker 3: jobs that every fan thinks they can do? Every fan
3:45
Speaker 3: thinks they can be the manager. Every fan thinks they
3:48
Speaker 3: can be the champ and every fan thinks that, uh,
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Speaker 3: they can be a play-by-play broadcaster. And, you know, in
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Speaker 3: a way you think about, you know, all the things
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Speaker 3: that go into it. And, uh, It was a lot
4:00
Speaker 3: of fun getting a chance to work with Mark Gubizot.
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Speaker 3: It was a treat being with that crew. They do
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Speaker 3: a really good job on ABTV. I hope Angel fans
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Speaker 3: can appreciate just the production and everything that goes into
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Speaker 3: what's done on Angel's broadcast. I think it's top-notch. And, yeah,
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Speaker 3: there's certainly a learning curve that comes along with that
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Speaker 3: and developing that chemistry, and that always takes a little
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Speaker 3: bit of time to figure that out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And, you know, it was always kind of interesting calling
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Speaker 3: the game on TV and then going to take fan
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Speaker 3: phone calls on the radio afterwards. And, you know, it
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Speaker 3: did make things, I wouldn't say it wasn't totally easy,
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Speaker 3: but this is part of the deal. This is what
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Speaker 3: you sign up for. I have a dream job. I
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Speaker 3: recognize that. So if that's the struggle, then I'll live
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Speaker 3: with it.
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Speaker 1: From the outside looking in, Trent, it seemed pretty seamless
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Speaker 1: once you got going in this job. What actually came
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Speaker 1: naturally for you and what were the biggest hurdles you
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Speaker 1: had to clear? Was maybe the hardest part the technical
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Speaker 1: stuff or just broadcasting for a team that was headed
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Speaker 1: for a 100-loss season and trying to sound like you
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Speaker 1: weren't reading a eulogy every night?
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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I've been around long enough. This
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Speaker 3: is my 12th year with the Angels.
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Speaker 2: Oh, man.
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Speaker 3: I've seen some tough times. There's no question I've seen
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Speaker 3: some tough times. That's one thing I always have taken
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Speaker 3: a lot of pride in is after games, going on
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Speaker 3: the radio and answering fan questions and sometimes trying to
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Speaker 3: answer for decisions I didn't make. That's always been something
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Speaker 3: that has been difficult. There's a fine balance to that. Honestly,
5:34
Speaker 3: When I first got going, I probably was a little bit,
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Speaker 3: probably too much, just like, hey, it's all going to
5:40
Speaker 3: be okay. But keep in mind, you know, when I
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Speaker 3: got started, I was 23 years old with the Angels
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Speaker 3: and the Angels were coming off a stretch where things
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Speaker 3: pretty much were always going to be okay. It was
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Speaker 3: a really good time. And it's been difficult since, there's
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Speaker 3: no denying that. And unfortunately, I've gotten my fair share
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Speaker 3: of handling tough losses. I would say the most difficult
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Speaker 3: part I think was just kind of trying to block
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Speaker 3: out the outside noise and focus on what I need
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Speaker 3: to focus on. Take care of the baseball, getting total
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Speaker 3: command of the game, being on top of that, knowing
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Speaker 3: how to talk to the truck appropriately. But then even
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Speaker 3: little things, setting up my monitor to where I could
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Speaker 3: look at Mark Gubiza when I'm in a broadcast and
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Speaker 3: not just looking at my monitor the whole time. Understanding
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Speaker 3: some of those mechanics. And it's also very difficult to
6:27
Speaker 3: step in on a once a week basis when Gooby
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Speaker 3: and Wayne are doing it every single day and they
6:32
Speaker 3: do an amazing job. And then, you know, just kind
6:34
Speaker 3: of dropping in for a night and trying to pick
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Speaker 3: up the pieces where I'm just another chapter in the
6:39
Speaker 3: book and another chapter starts the next day. It's not
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Speaker 3: a new book every single time. There is an adjustment
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Speaker 3: to that. I tried to understand it the best I could.
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Speaker 3: But look, Wayne and I are very different. We call
6:50
Speaker 3: a very different game. I think our strengths are very different.
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Speaker 3: And that's probably something that maybe wasn't always the easiest
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Speaker 3: for the audience to, to totally grasp, but I felt
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Speaker 3: like I did my best. I think we did a
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Speaker 3: really good job and I'm proud of the work done
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Speaker 3: with Mark.
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Speaker 4: I think you should be. I think one of the
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Speaker 4: biggest benefits and, and, and, you know, an attribute for
7:14
Speaker 4: any kind of somebody interested in doing play by play
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Speaker 4: is the knowledge of the game and really doing the homework.
7:20
Speaker 4: And I think that there's a question in here that
7:22
Speaker 4: we'll kind of get to, that and, you know, some
7:25
Speaker 4: of the, some of the nice work you were able
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Speaker 4: to do, but going down and talking to the players,
7:28
Speaker 4: I think is imperative and all of that. But you
7:31
Speaker 4: had touched on the radio and the phone calls. It's
7:35
Speaker 4: something we want to integrate on this show. I don't
7:37
Speaker 4: know if it's a great idea, but I do think
7:38
Speaker 4: it would be a lot of fun. Is there, is
7:41
Speaker 4: there some, you don't have to give all of the examples,
7:44
Speaker 4: but the majority of the calls usually have a pretty
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Speaker 4: strong opinion. How do you navigate those? How do you
7:50
Speaker 4: keep it original with the answers? Because, you know, even
7:53
Speaker 4: on our show, we get the same types of questions
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Speaker 4: a lot. You don't have to answer all of them,
8:00
Speaker 4: but in a phone call, I guess you do. Is
8:02
Speaker 4: there an art to that? What do you do about it?
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Speaker 4: How do you go about that?
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Speaker 3: I think so. I've always thought of the character or
8:08
Speaker 3: the callers are a character on the show. They are
8:10
Speaker 3: part of it. So when Luke and Huntington Beach calls
8:13
Speaker 3: or RJ and Riverside or whoever's calling in, they're a
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Speaker 3: part of the show. And I think that sometimes the
8:19
Speaker 3: other listeners want to hear what they have to say
8:22
Speaker 3: in a way. Sometimes it's for a little bit of
8:25
Speaker 3: comedic relief from time to time. And when I get it,
8:28
Speaker 3: you know, when Harold in North Hollywood calls me and
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Speaker 3: wants to rant and rave and get all mad about
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Speaker 3: any little thing. I personally find a little bit of comedy.
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Speaker 3: Not a little bit. I find a lot of comedy
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Speaker 3: in that. I think it's kind of funny when folks
8:40
Speaker 3: get really upset. And so I let them have their
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Speaker 3: moment and then I address it as best we can.
8:46
Speaker 3: That's probably one difference between doing that show and this show.
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Speaker 3: On that show, there's a new game every single night.
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Speaker 3: So while the big picture topics do remain the same
8:54
Speaker 3: and you're providing the information as best you possibly can,
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Speaker 3: I like to keep it to the game itself and
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Speaker 3: break that down and different things that happen. On a
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Speaker 3: baseball front, but I think one thing that's easy to do,
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Speaker 3: and it's a mistake, is to lose sight of the
9:10
Speaker 3: grander picture of what the season is. When you're 30
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Speaker 3: games under. 500 and you lose a game in early September, okay,
9:18
Speaker 3: are we really just going to crush the bullpen every
9:20
Speaker 3: single night? You've got to talk about the bigger theme
9:23
Speaker 3: and what happened here and maybe some of the pieces
9:25
Speaker 3: that get used. in different spots and maybe why a
9:27
Speaker 3: player's on the roster and how to fix it moving forward.
9:30
Speaker 3: So I always would try to do that on the
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Speaker 3: radio show as best I could. You know, you don't
9:35
Speaker 3: want any show to be totally repetitive. And we kept
9:38
Speaker 3: it fresh enough. But I do think that there is
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Speaker 3: an art to understanding how to handle that. Fortunately or unfortunately,
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Speaker 3: I've gotten a lot of experience over the last decade
9:46
Speaker 3: doing so. So hopefully we have it figured out by now.
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Speaker 1: Is there like one wackiest call or one most memorable
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Speaker 1: call over the, I don't know how many years you've
9:56
Speaker 1: done that job specifically, but, or one that stands out
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Speaker 1: the most?
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Speaker 3: You know, it's not, it's not like one call in particular,
10:04
Speaker 3: but I mentioned, you know, some of the names and, Again,
10:07
Speaker 3: these callers become characters, and you can almost expect... Like,
10:11
Speaker 3: I have a screen. I'm going to take you behind
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Speaker 3: the curtain right now. I got a screen in front
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Speaker 3: of me that shows the list and all the names
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Speaker 3: of who's calling. There are certain callers that, for the
10:20
Speaker 3: right moment, I'm going to know to go to them.
10:23
Speaker 5: And I....
10:25
Speaker 3: When things are, you know, if we're in a, hey,
10:27
Speaker 3: life is great, but, you know, the Angels did just
10:29
Speaker 3: lose 12-3 and we've got to bring a little bit
10:32
Speaker 3: of that to it. I know who I can ask
10:34
Speaker 3: to come on and kind of, you know, lay it down.
10:37
Speaker 3: But conversely, you know, the Angels has won a game. Hey,
10:40
Speaker 3: how come everyone's so negative tonight? Can we at least
10:42
Speaker 3: smile and enjoy a victory? My goodness, you know, they're
10:45
Speaker 3: hard to come by. Let's enjoy these. And there's certain
10:48
Speaker 3: colors that can bring that to the table as well.
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Speaker 3: So finding that balance, I think, is really important. But
10:54
Speaker 3: I don't know. There's probably not one call in particular.
10:57
Speaker 3: And every year it seems like there's a new cast.
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Speaker 3: You know, some carry over year to year. You pick
11:02
Speaker 3: some up. You lose some. They come back. It ebbs
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Speaker 3: and flows over the course of the season.
11:06
Speaker 2: That's funny.
11:07
Speaker 1: We've only done this show for 10-plus months, and we
11:09
Speaker 1: have a regular cast of characters who comment on every episode, some, many,
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure in-depth, I mean, long comments, and I'm
11:19
Speaker 1: sure Mark is trying to figure out what character we
11:22
Speaker 1: can assign to Ben Gulls. But, hey, we're going to
11:24
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Speaker 5: to Halo Territory with Mike DiGiovanna, former LA Times baseball writer,
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Speaker 5: Mark Trumbo, the former Angels slugger, and Trent Rush, the
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Speaker 5: Angels radio and TV broadcaster. Well, Trent, you mentioned.
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Speaker 1: It's been a rough go for the Angels. We're not
12:48
Speaker 1: kidding anybody about that.
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Speaker 2: I'm just curious.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned some of those fans like you can't even
12:54
Speaker 1: appreciate a win every now and then.
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Speaker 2: Do you any do you or.
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Speaker 1: Any of your broadcast partners ever get complaints from fans
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Speaker 1: who would maybe like to see you guys even be
13:02
Speaker 1: more critical at times, especially during a season like this
13:05
Speaker 1: last one?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's. always noise that's out there. And
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Speaker 3: I think it becomes a point of how much do
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Speaker 3: you take in and how much do you just kind
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Speaker 3: of let go by the wayside. I think that one
13:16
Speaker 3: thing that I have found is when I have a
13:18
Speaker 3: fan that wants to approach me and have a conversation
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Speaker 3: face to face. A lot of times that's a very
13:24
Speaker 3: different conversation than maybe just posting on social media. So
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Speaker 3: I've actually worked really hard to block out what I
13:31
Speaker 3: see on social media. And it's a tough balance because
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Speaker 3: I've taken so much pride in being accessible to the
13:36
Speaker 3: fans and, you know, being there and wanting to be
13:39
Speaker 3: out and about and talk to people. So I've really
13:41
Speaker 3: tried to make a point to do that face to face. And,
13:44
Speaker 3: you know, I can't speak for other guys. I mean,
13:47
Speaker 3: There certainly are some folks that would probably prefer if
13:52
Speaker 3: I would just bash the team all the time because
13:54
Speaker 3: they're not winning. And I accept that. At the same time,
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Speaker 3: it's competition. You still enjoy wins. We all want what's best.
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Speaker 3: This I will speak for my fellow broadcasters on. This
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Speaker 3: is a group that cares deeply about the success of
14:09
Speaker 3: Angels baseball and wanting to see this group win on
14:12
Speaker 3: a nightly basis. And I think that if you listen
14:14
Speaker 3: to everybody that's on, it's going to come through. It's
14:17
Speaker 3: going to be expressed. Maybe not as overtly as some
14:20
Speaker 3: fans would like to hear, but it's always expressed. It's
14:22
Speaker 3: always said. We want to see the Angels win every
14:26
Speaker 3: single night. You know, sometimes you take the hard losses
14:30
Speaker 3: home with you, which is tough. But you get excited
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Speaker 3: about the good wins as well. It's all part of it. So, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I mean, there's probably some social media noise, but that's
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Speaker 3: not something I'm concerning myself with overly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
14:43
Speaker 4: Talking about soliciting opinions on X. What a losing proposition.
14:48
Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness.
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Speaker 4: Disregard.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 4: Okay. I want to ask you something that you're uniquely
14:56
Speaker 4: qualified to answer. I was fascinated by it. Kenny Albert
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Speaker 4: stepped in the other day for Joe Davis at a
15:01
Speaker 4: moment's notice for a playoff game. He had not covered
15:05
Speaker 4: a single major league baseball game all season. I mean,
15:10
Speaker 4: to get up to speed with the rules and everything,
15:12
Speaker 4: how difficult is that in your opinion? And I believe
15:15
Speaker 4: he's the only broadcaster that's done all four major sports.
15:18
Speaker 4: And I don't know how many you've done. Is there
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Speaker 4: one that's the hardest, the easiest broadcast?
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Speaker 3: Gosh, it's so funny. Well, let me answer on Kenny
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Speaker 3: Albert first. That was amazing what he did. And I
15:28
Speaker 3: think I read that he was prepping for a colonoscopy
15:32
Speaker 3: when he got the call to go do that, which
15:35
Speaker 3: just takes it to a whole nother level for how
15:37
Speaker 3: incredible it was what he did. I think that understanding
15:40
Speaker 3: the teams and the games, the changes in the game,
15:44
Speaker 3: I think you kind of have to do that naturally.
15:46
Speaker 3: Like for me in college football, you know, I wasn't
15:48
Speaker 3: able to do as much college football earlier in the season.
15:51
Speaker 3: You know, I kind of stayed up on it and
15:54
Speaker 3: then sure enough, I'm going to end up doing some
15:55
Speaker 3: games later in the year. And, You always kind of
15:59
Speaker 3: have to have your feel on what's happening. I think
16:01
Speaker 3: that's where, just naturally as a sports fan, you just
16:04
Speaker 3: follow along with that. I think that to drop in
16:08
Speaker 3: into a playoff game, into the high stakes of that,
16:11
Speaker 3: is incredibly difficult. I think there's also two different ways
16:15
Speaker 3: to look at this. I think when you're talking about
16:17
Speaker 3: a national broadcast... you can get away with knowing the
16:21
Speaker 3: bigger picture stories, knowing the stars, not having to have
16:25
Speaker 3: the intricacies of each team and all the little details. Now,
16:29
Speaker 3: you need to be able to know a manager decision
16:32
Speaker 3: on who he's going to use in certain situations coming,
16:34
Speaker 3: you know, especially bullpen decisions, or if there's a pinch
16:37
Speaker 3: running situation to be able to prompt your analysts that way,
16:40
Speaker 3: you've got to be able to know that. But I
16:42
Speaker 3: think there's also some things that happen when you're doing
16:44
Speaker 3: like a team broadcast day to day that is so
16:47
Speaker 3: detailed and you're so involved in It's very tough to
16:51
Speaker 3: just parachute into that. I don't think you could do
16:53
Speaker 3: it for a local broadcast, but Kenny Albert did do it,
16:56
Speaker 3: especially in a playoff game. You know what the stakes are.
16:58
Speaker 3: I think if anything, that makes it a smidge easier,
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Speaker 3: but I don't want to take anything away from Kenny Albert.
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Speaker 3: That was one of the all-time great performances to do
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Speaker 3: that on literally a moment's notice to step in and
17:09
Speaker 3: do a fantastic job calling a game. Kenny Albert truly
17:12
Speaker 3: is one of the best in the game.
17:14
Speaker 1: I have not broadcast the four major sports, but I've
17:17
Speaker 1: covered them in addition to many others. And I will say, Mark,
17:20
Speaker 1: if there's one sport broadcast-wise that is the toughest, it's
17:23
Speaker 1: got to be hockey. I don't know if you've done
17:25
Speaker 1: any NHL hockey, Trent. I covered a Ducks game last
17:28
Speaker 1: night for the AP, and just trying to wrap my
17:31
Speaker 1: head around the speed of the game after covering a
17:34
Speaker 1: whole baseball season. It's just mind-boggling how quickly that game moves.
17:39
Speaker 1: And to memorize all the players, because the players, the
17:42
Speaker 1: line changes, the shifts, Everything changes while the game is flowing.
17:46
Speaker 1: I can't imagine anything harder than hockey. Maybe Trent, you, you,
17:50
Speaker 1: you have anything to add there?
17:52
Speaker 3: Well, I dropped, I did the softball world cup one
17:55
Speaker 3: year and I had Chinese Taipei dropped on me and
17:59
Speaker 3: learning those names. That was, that was an adventure. There's no,
18:04
Speaker 3: there's no PR point of contact. It's a necessarily coach
18:07
Speaker 3: that hangs your roster and says, go for it. I'm
18:09
Speaker 3: calling my fourth game of the day. That's what that is. No,
18:13
Speaker 3: I've done football, basketball, baseball, soccer, volleyball, basketball, I mentioned softball.
18:19
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think. I've done some lacrosse. I did
18:21
Speaker 3: some high school field hockey when I was first coming up.
18:24
Speaker 3: It was like you just say yes to every assignment
18:27
Speaker 3: and you do whatever you can to make a life
18:29
Speaker 3: in this business. And it's very difficult. It's... There's a
18:33
Speaker 3: lot of work that nobody sees. I can't begin to
18:36
Speaker 3: tell you how many games I've called that have had
18:38
Speaker 3: a listenership of zero or single digits for what I've
18:43
Speaker 3: done in the past. And you do those. They're really
18:45
Speaker 3: important reps. And I remember I was doing Long Beach
18:48
Speaker 3: State baseball. They gave me 50 bucks to do a game.
18:50
Speaker 3: I thought, this is the greatest thing in the world.
18:51
Speaker 3: They're actually going to pay me to do these games?
18:54
Speaker 3: This is unbelievable that they're doing this.
18:56
Speaker 2: Yeah.
18:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all of it. I think the toughest in
19:00
Speaker 3: a way is baseball. For a home, a local broadcast
19:04
Speaker 3: on TV. I think baseball is the toughest that there
19:06
Speaker 3: is just because you literally have to be in tune
19:09
Speaker 3: with everything that's going on in the organization. There's a
19:12
Speaker 3: lot of mechanic to it that's difficult. Versus football, it's
19:16
Speaker 3: like very rhythmic. You call the action, the replay happens.
19:19
Speaker 3: Analyst takes over, you get set up, back to the
19:21
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, you go. Basketball, it's a free-flowing pace. Baseball,
19:25
Speaker 3: the pace kind of changes on a night-to-night basis, and
19:27
Speaker 3: that's something that I think is a real art, and
19:29
Speaker 3: there's very few that are excellent at it.
19:32
Speaker 2: And you have a lot of downtime to fill in.
19:34
Speaker 2: As Vince Kelly would have told you.
19:37
Speaker 1: So, Trent, you had a great tidbit on a telecast
19:40
Speaker 1: in August about interim GM John Moselock having a sit-down
19:43
Speaker 1: with Zach Netto and admonishing the shortstop for his lack
19:46
Speaker 1: of hustle. Are you in court uh encouraged by your
19:49
Speaker 1: bosses to do more of this pre-game type of original
19:53
Speaker 1: reporting like that and to incorporate in the in the
19:57
Speaker 1: broadcast uh if not would you like to do more
19:59
Speaker 1: of that yourself as you grow into this job.
20:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think when there's news, you got to share it.
20:05
Speaker 3: And I felt like that was news. And I felt
20:07
Speaker 3: like it was an important story to tell. And I'm
20:09
Speaker 3: not going to gatekeep anything. And that's also something, to
20:12
Speaker 3: be totally transparent, I'm going to have that conversation pregame.
20:15
Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about it with Gooby. I'm going
20:18
Speaker 3: to talk about that with Erica. And we're going to
20:20
Speaker 3: kind of know. You know, a lot of times, you know,
20:23
Speaker 3: Erica and I could end up with the same story
20:25
Speaker 3: and who's going to tell it and how. And Erica
20:28
Speaker 3: does an amazing job of enterprising so much of her
20:30
Speaker 3: own stuff. She had enterprise some of her own stories
20:32
Speaker 3: that day. So I was like, OK, well, I'm going
20:34
Speaker 3: to tell this one from the play by play chair.
20:37
Speaker 3: So I'm comfortable doing that. I don't mind it. I
20:40
Speaker 3: like it. I don't know. I never got any direct
20:43
Speaker 3: feedback on that note in particular. But I think that
20:48
Speaker 3: when you have the relationship that I've been fortunate enough
20:51
Speaker 3: to have with our players to be able to go
20:53
Speaker 3: to these guys in the clubhouse, a lot of our conversations, candidly,
20:57
Speaker 3: are off record. That conversation I had with Zach was
21:00
Speaker 3: on record. I got that note from Zach directly. I
21:04
Speaker 3: have a relationship with whoever's been the GM here. I
21:09
Speaker 3: was here for the end of the Depota time. From
21:12
Speaker 3: Billy Epler, I was close with Billy. I had a
21:14
Speaker 3: good relationship with Perry Manassian. I have a good relationship
21:16
Speaker 3: with John Mazalog. So, you know, having that to have
21:20
Speaker 3: an understanding, even if you're getting off record information, sometimes
21:24
Speaker 3: I can give you some important background into maybe how
21:26
Speaker 3: to tell a story and the nature of it. So
21:29
Speaker 3: maybe I'm not giving... saying exactly what was said to
21:33
Speaker 3: me at that time because it was an off-record conversation.
21:36
Speaker 3: But that context is really important to tell the overall
21:39
Speaker 3: story of what's happening in the season. So if I
21:43
Speaker 3: have those opportunities to tell a story like that, I
21:45
Speaker 3: have felt no resistance to do so. I think it's
21:48
Speaker 3: important for the audience. And my bosses ask me to
21:51
Speaker 3: tell the best story possible. And that's what I try
21:54
Speaker 3: to do in that situation.
21:55
Speaker 2: All right. Mike?
21:57
Speaker 4: I think it was maybe the story of the year.
21:59
Speaker 4: It's not going to get as much notoriety as the
22:01
Speaker 4: sale of the club, but it really, no, it was,
22:05
Speaker 4: it was a great thing for all parties involved. Most
22:09
Speaker 4: John Mosaic looked like he was taking an active role
22:13
Speaker 4: and a necessary step. And I think Zach very much,
22:16
Speaker 4: it was that, you know, his improvements were tangible, noticeable
22:19
Speaker 4: at the end, different player, different mindset. So I think
22:22
Speaker 4: that was really good. And then a note about, For
22:26
Speaker 4: players out there or anyone dealing with the media, you
22:28
Speaker 4: can't assume anything is ever off the record. These scumbags,
22:31
Speaker 4: like the guy hosting the show, you can't trust them.
22:35
Speaker 4: You got to make sure what you're saying.
22:38
Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
22:39
Speaker 4: Lies, lies, lies. The old school guys are better. But
22:43
Speaker 4: in today's world, Twitter and X. Best, you know, calculate
22:48
Speaker 4: what you're going to say.
22:50
Speaker 1: My brother has been on me to write a book
22:52
Speaker 1: about all this, you know, what I've heard over the years.
22:55
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, do you know what off the record means?
22:59
Speaker 1: More than half the stuff I couldn't print and I
23:02
Speaker 1: couldn't put their names to them. And, you know, it's like, okay,
23:05
Speaker 1: what happens after the first chapter? You know, it's like
23:08
Speaker 1: they don't understand. But yeah, off the record, very important.
23:10
Speaker 1: But as Trent was saying, you have off the record
23:13
Speaker 1: conversations to inform people.
23:15
Speaker 2: Other stories.
23:16
Speaker 1: And while you may not quote a person directly off
23:19
Speaker 1: the record, you can often weave that information, you know,
23:22
Speaker 1: whether it's an anonymous source or, you know, on background
23:25
Speaker 1: as things evolve on the field. So it always, I
23:28
Speaker 1: think bottom line, I think it always helps whether you're
23:31
Speaker 1: a TV reporter, a radio reporter, or a print reporter
23:34
Speaker 1: to have these conversations, as many of them as you
23:37
Speaker 1: can to get to know these players, for them to
23:39
Speaker 1: trust you as I'm sure Mark trusted this reporter.
23:43
Speaker 2: Over the years. But, yeah, it's all very important for sure.
23:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's always funny. I have no trouble getting
23:52
Speaker 3: somebody to talk to me off record. As soon as
23:54
Speaker 3: I want to go on record, now all of a
23:55
Speaker 3: sudden I want to do it.
23:57
Speaker 2: Exactly.
23:58
Speaker 3: I appreciate that the Angels have given me the latitude
24:00
Speaker 3: to be able to chime in on that and be
24:02
Speaker 3: able to have those conversations through the years.
24:07
Speaker 4: You were on the mushroom program, Mike. Keep you in
24:10
Speaker 4: the dark.
24:10
Speaker 3: All right.
24:13
Speaker 2: You've been hosting that one for a while.
24:15
Speaker 4: No, it's always there. Trent, have you met Mr. Kroenke?
24:22
Speaker 4: I mean, everyone's excited. For those like yourself working in
24:26
Speaker 4: the organization, can you just possibly give us a little
24:29
Speaker 4: insight into the overall feel, the mood? It seems like
24:35
Speaker 4: this is a very positive step and an owner that
24:38
Speaker 4: knows how to win.
24:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel that way. To answer your question, no,
24:42
Speaker 3: I have not met Mr. Kroenke. I did meet Kevin
24:45
Speaker 3: Demoff when the Rams first moved to LA. I was
24:49
Speaker 3: covering the Rams for the radio station at the time,
24:52
Speaker 3: and we were around, and we were on that move
24:53
Speaker 3: pretty heavily. So I got to know Mr. Demoff a
24:56
Speaker 3: little bit through there, but I haven't really connected all
24:59
Speaker 3: that much with anybody from KSE at this point. I
25:02
Speaker 3: do think that there is a level of excitement. I
25:05
Speaker 3: think the fans, of course, can sense that. I know
25:08
Speaker 3: from callers into the show and going around and into
25:11
Speaker 3: the community, I'll be honest with you, not a day
25:13
Speaker 3: goes by where I'm out and about and somebody doesn't
25:16
Speaker 3: come up to me and they're excited about the future
25:19
Speaker 3: of Angels baseball. And I think that it's twofold, right?
25:23
Speaker 3: I think on one hand, you can look at, you know,
25:26
Speaker 3: Artie Moreno treating the Angels like a major market organization
25:30
Speaker 3: and the impact that he made the first half of
25:31
Speaker 3: his tenure. I think you can also look to, well,
25:34
Speaker 3: what Stan Kroenke has done, and every team that he's
25:37
Speaker 3: had has done nothing but win. And that's clearly a
25:41
Speaker 3: very important thing. I would also guess that the land
25:45
Speaker 3: that's around Angel Stadium is probably pretty desirable and everything
25:49
Speaker 3: that's going on here with what the Ducks are doing,
25:51
Speaker 3: with what Disney is doing, with what could happen and
25:53
Speaker 3: the potential in the city of Anaheim. I think that
25:57
Speaker 3: there's a lot to like. I'm no expert on this,
26:00
Speaker 3: but if I was a developer, I would love the
26:05
Speaker 3: plot of land that Angel Stadium sits on right now.
26:07
Speaker 3: So I think that there's a lot to it. And
26:09
Speaker 3: I think for Angel fans, every reason to be optimistic
26:13
Speaker 3: about what's to come.
26:15
Speaker 1: Well, Trent, with an ownership change comes uncertainty from the
26:18
Speaker 1: front office to the coaching staff to the players, and
26:21
Speaker 1: there's no getting around it sometimes. So the broadcast booth,
26:24
Speaker 1: how are you and your ABTV and AM830 cohorts feeling
26:28
Speaker 1: about your guys' future with the Angels? Is there any
26:32
Speaker 1: of that pins and needles feelings? Have you guys talked
26:35
Speaker 1: about the future with anyone over there yet?
26:38
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, hey, Mark, if you would mind
26:40
Speaker 3: writing a letter to Stan Kroenke with what you said
26:42
Speaker 3: about me earlier, that'd be great. I appreciate that. No,
26:45
Speaker 3: but in all seriousness, you go about your day as
26:50
Speaker 3: if everything's fine. And obviously in the back of your mind,
26:53
Speaker 3: you've got to be mindful of changes and what could
26:56
Speaker 3: come and have that. I found that to be just
26:59
Speaker 3: a really dangerous exercise. You know, this isn't the first
27:02
Speaker 3: time I've gone through this, you know, and already put
27:04
Speaker 3: the team up for sale a few years ago. At
27:06
Speaker 3: that time, to be honest with you, I was pretty nervous.
27:10
Speaker 3: I wasn't doing as much play-by-play at the time. I
27:14
Speaker 3: hadn't quite gotten to Fox yet. So I was a
27:18
Speaker 3: little concerned about, hey, what's going to happen next for me?
27:20
Speaker 3: What I learned through that experience is at a certain
27:23
Speaker 3: point in time, you got to just trust your talent,
27:26
Speaker 3: trust what you're able to do, trust your work ethic
27:29
Speaker 3: and the way you go about it as a good
27:31
Speaker 3: person and try to carry yourself the right way to
27:33
Speaker 3: represent the organization. So whatever happens, I have confidence that
27:39
Speaker 3: I'm going to be okay no matter what, and I
27:41
Speaker 3: want it to be with the Angels. This is where
27:43
Speaker 3: I grew up. This is home for me. I want
27:45
Speaker 3: to have the Tim Meade 40-year career with the Angels.
27:48
Speaker 3: That's what would be my dream is if that happens.
27:51
Speaker 3: At the same time, I'm also aware of what could
27:54
Speaker 3: happen in this competitive, high-profile profession, and I accept that.
27:59
Speaker 3: I want it to work out here. I hope it does,
28:02
Speaker 3: but you just never know, and that probably is sitting
28:05
Speaker 3: in the back of everybody's minds, I would assume.
28:07
Speaker 2: Good answer, though.
28:09
Speaker 4: That's the same mindset players have.
28:10
Speaker 3: Yeah.
28:11
Speaker 4: You know, things change, but you do your best, you represent,
28:14
Speaker 4: you hustle, you grind, and people notice. And I think
28:19
Speaker 4: people are noticing how hard, you know, with your work ethic. So,
28:22
Speaker 4: by the way, who's to say that, you know, Mr.
28:25
Speaker 4: Kroenke and company don't watch this show? They might see
28:27
Speaker 4: you on here. No need to tell them. Okay. You
28:31
Speaker 4: were at the Big A for at least one of
28:34
Speaker 4: the games this past– weekend or week, uh, for the
28:38
Speaker 4: top prospects, uh, instructional league, anyone stand out to you?
28:41
Speaker 4: You see, I think I saw a big Mac in attendance.
28:44
Speaker 4: I think it's something they're playing.
28:46
Speaker 3: Oh, Yeah, Mason pitched on Saturday night, and he threw
28:51
Speaker 3: a couple scoreless innings too. So that was pretty cool
28:53
Speaker 3: to see that. It was funny talking with Reggie Willits
28:56
Speaker 3: and his son there, Jackson, who's with the organization. I
29:00
Speaker 3: saw Tim Salmon's nephew Jack was out there, and then
29:04
Speaker 3: Big Mac's son. So all that was pretty cool to see.
29:07
Speaker 3: I was really impressed by Jared Grinlinger, who the Angels
29:10
Speaker 3: took in the first round. I thought he looked– He
29:14
Speaker 3: looked really good at the same time. It instructs how
29:18
Speaker 3: much are you really reading into that. I'd say the
29:20
Speaker 3: player that impressed the most that I didn't really have
29:23
Speaker 3: much of a beat on, because he's not getting a
29:25
Speaker 3: ton of recognition outside the organization, but Kendri Maduro is
29:30
Speaker 3: a shortstop that had just a monster, monster weekend. And
29:34
Speaker 3: he hits a home run off of Trey Gregory Alford.
29:37
Speaker 3: And he, I mean, I thought he looked great. I
29:40
Speaker 3: was really impressed by him. That's just one of those
29:42
Speaker 3: names that, you know, we know all the big names
29:44
Speaker 3: at this point. That wasn't one I'd really heard much about.
29:47
Speaker 2: He was.
29:48
Speaker 3: Really impressive. Brendner pitched really well. He's got, not only
29:52
Speaker 3: does he have facial hair now, he's got like the
29:54
Speaker 3: full long hair thing going on. So he's totally leaning
29:57
Speaker 3: into his California cool, Mr. Santa Barbara guy. So happy
30:03
Speaker 3: to see that. Hayden Alvarez, I thought impressed at times.
30:06
Speaker 3: He had a couple of stolen bases, had a couple
30:07
Speaker 3: of hits as well. So again, I'll tell you this.
30:12
Speaker 3: Being at Instructs a year ago, there were three or
30:14
Speaker 3: four players I was interested in seeing. Being there this year,
30:17
Speaker 3: there were like 15 guys that I wanted to get
30:19
Speaker 3: eyes on. And I thought that made a really big difference.
30:22
Speaker 3: Just the level of talent and not even just the
30:24
Speaker 3: new additions. Like Jacob Cozart. When you guys get a
30:27
Speaker 3: chance to talk to Jacob Cozart, the catcher in the
30:29
Speaker 3: Joe Adele trade. He blew me away talking to him.
30:33
Speaker 3: And he's really good behind the plate and calls a
30:35
Speaker 3: really good game. And his bat has played at the
30:37
Speaker 3: double-A level. Let's see what happens when he gets to
30:39
Speaker 3: the big leagues when that time comes. But he's an
30:42
Speaker 3: impressive guy. And I think that when you have somebody
30:44
Speaker 3: like that that has the natural leadership that is savant-like
30:49
Speaker 3: when it comes to baseball, it's important to have in
30:51
Speaker 3: a clubhouse. So I really like seeing that. You guys
30:54
Speaker 3: also appreciate this. My number one takeaway from Instructs, Some
30:59
Speaker 3: of the coaches showed angels in the outfield to the
31:01
Speaker 3: guys in the clubhouse. Not one player had seen it before.
31:05
Speaker 3: Not one player had seen angels in the outfield.
31:08
Speaker 4: Zero surprised.
31:10
Speaker 3: So that made me feel very, very old.
31:13
Speaker 2: Don't even tell them about Bull Durham.
31:17
Speaker 1: Well, it must be refreshing, Trent, to see a farm
31:20
Speaker 1: system with multiple top 100 players after these last few years.
31:23
Speaker 1: Can you explain to the fans how important it is
31:26
Speaker 1: for a team looking to get back into contention to
31:30
Speaker 1: have multiple prospects on that list?
31:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that perception is reality in a lot
31:38
Speaker 3: of ways, too. And for the Angels... A lot of
31:41
Speaker 3: the names that are getting traction now were here this
31:45
Speaker 3: spring training and even last year at Instruct. So those
31:48
Speaker 3: guys have gotten better over the course of the year.
31:50
Speaker 3: It's not just the new players that have come in.
31:51
Speaker 3: I think that's an important distinction to keep in mind
31:54
Speaker 3: as well. But whether those players are used to help
31:58
Speaker 3: your major league team. they can be used as pieces
32:00
Speaker 3: to trade. It's just the, the whole picture of it
32:04
Speaker 3: is being able to use some of these guys to
32:06
Speaker 3: make your major league roster better, whether that's those guys
32:09
Speaker 3: directly or to be used for other pieces. And I,
32:13
Speaker 3: you know, we see what's gone on in Philadelphia and,
32:16
Speaker 3: you know, there's been Dombrowski is a reputation of, Hey,
32:21
Speaker 3: he doesn't value minor leaguers. No, he values minor leaguers
32:24
Speaker 3: a lot and he gets them to have these great reputations.
32:27
Speaker 3: Then he's able to flip them for major league starters.
32:30
Speaker 3: There is, there's a lot of value to that. So
32:32
Speaker 3: I think that the perception of the angels farm system
32:36
Speaker 3: catching up to the reality, I think is a really
32:39
Speaker 3: important thing for angels baseball. It's a lot of the
32:41
Speaker 3: same players that are here, but I do think that
32:43
Speaker 3: the industry is starting to represent, uh, try to respect
32:47
Speaker 3: those players a little bit more now.
32:49
Speaker 4: I would agree with you. Everyone likes to talk about
32:52
Speaker 4: a window, what a period of time when a team
32:58
Speaker 4: is going to be in contention, definitive dates. I think
33:02
Speaker 4: our best guess for the Halos, it's probably going to
33:05
Speaker 4: be two to three years. By all accounts, some of
33:08
Speaker 4: these younger prospects will mature and hopefully come up somewhat
33:12
Speaker 4: at the same time. It could be sooner than that,
33:14
Speaker 4: but Let's say it's three years. I guess I kind
33:17
Speaker 4: of answered on my side, but do you have an
33:20
Speaker 4: opinion on that when the window of contention could be
33:24
Speaker 4: for this team?
33:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I like that you used the word contention
33:28
Speaker 3: because I think there's a big difference between competing and contending.
33:32
Speaker 3: I think that the Angels, like look what the White
33:34
Speaker 3: Sox did. Like they turned around very, very fast. And
33:37
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that's the expectation for the Angels, but
33:40
Speaker 3: I do think that this team can compete in 2027,
33:44
Speaker 3: but that's not contending for a championship and getting those players.
33:47
Speaker 3: I think that a lot of the talent that's in
33:49
Speaker 3: the organization now is on the younger side. The pitching
33:52
Speaker 3: is a little further ahead of the position players, but
33:55
Speaker 3: I think the position players may be a little bit
33:57
Speaker 3: better than what a lot of folks have realized. So
33:59
Speaker 3: let's just say we see some of these pitchers come up.
34:01
Speaker 3: I think the rotation is already pretty good. And with
34:04
Speaker 3: what Wolverine was able to do this year, that's something
34:07
Speaker 3: to be excited about. But you do have a lot
34:10
Speaker 3: of areas that need to be addressed, whether it be
34:12
Speaker 3: internally or externally. And to think that you're going to
34:15
Speaker 3: go from 100 loss season to being a playoff team
34:18
Speaker 3: the next year, it's not impossible, but you wouldn't call
34:21
Speaker 3: that likely. There's a lot of things that have to
34:23
Speaker 3: happen internally. to get to that. But to say that
34:27
Speaker 3: by 28, 29, you couldn't see this team in a
34:29
Speaker 3: position to do that, totally is possible. But I think
34:33
Speaker 3: from the people that I have talked to, what I
34:36
Speaker 3: understand about the vision for Angels baseball is the vision
34:39
Speaker 3: is not, let's get to the playoffs as soon as possible,
34:43
Speaker 3: and then that's it. It's how do we build an
34:45
Speaker 3: organization that when the time comes to open up that
34:49
Speaker 3: championship window, it's a window that lasts for a while.
34:52
Speaker 3: How do we get Angels baseball in position where you're
34:54
Speaker 3: opening up a 10-year window instead of maybe a two-year window?
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Speaker 3: And that could take a little bit longer to do,
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Speaker 3: but that's why there's been such an influx of development
35:06
Speaker 3: and bringing in players and having a really good draft
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Speaker 3: is so important and dealing some key pieces at the deadline,
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Speaker 3: but also knowing that things can happen fast, especially in
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Speaker 3: a bad division. The AL West is a bad division.
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Speaker 3: The American League in general was down this year, so
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Speaker 3: I think things can be a little accelerated. based on
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Speaker 3: the level of competition too.
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Speaker 1: Does John Moselock have his fingerprints all over this new vision,
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Speaker 1: would you say?
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Speaker 2: Is that a lot he's doing?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's a part of it. I mean,
35:32
Speaker 3: a lot of it, honestly, starts with Molly Jolly. And
35:35
Speaker 3: when she became the president of the organization, I think
35:37
Speaker 3: that's where a lot of this really got going. So yeah,
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Speaker 3: I mean, Mo's vision in terms of the development has
35:44
Speaker 3: been really big. That's what was kind of his staple
35:46
Speaker 3: in St. Louis, and that's what he's wanted to bring.
35:48
Speaker 3: an assignment with the Angels. But I really think that
35:51
Speaker 3: a lot of this got started even before Mo got here.
35:54
Speaker 3: Quite frankly, I think with Molly, a lot of this began.
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Speaker 1: Well, Trent, you called a lot of Reid Detmers better
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Speaker 1: starts this year. From your seat, does he already look
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Speaker 1: like a guy who can lead a rotation, or is
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Speaker 1: there still one more step he might need to take?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think the one step would be to get
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Speaker 3: a little run support. That would be nice. He didn't
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Speaker 3: have hardly any of that this year. I think that
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Speaker 3: I think Detmers has gotten to that point where he
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Speaker 3: can lead a staff because he has some battle scars.
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Speaker 3: As somebody that's been sent down, as somebody that got
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Speaker 3: moved to the rotation or moved to the bullpen, had
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Speaker 3: to get himself out of the bullpen and into the rotation,
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Speaker 3: to have to go through everything that Reed Detmers has
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Speaker 3: gone through, I think that that is the sign of
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Speaker 3: somebody that has real staying power. And that's why if
36:39
Speaker 3: I had to vote for Pitcher of the Year, I
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Speaker 3: would have voted for Reed Detmers over Walbert Urania, even
36:43
Speaker 3: though Urania had pretty good numbers overall. We've seen a
36:46
Speaker 3: lot of guys have really good seasons in their low 20s.
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Speaker 3: Reid Detmers is one of them. How do you make
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Speaker 3: that into a career? I think with what Reid Detmers
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Speaker 3: has done and what he's been through, I think he's
36:56
Speaker 3: on the other side of some of that garbage. and
36:59
Speaker 3: can get into just taking off and having a five-
37:03
Speaker 3: or six-year run of being one of the better pitchers
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Speaker 3: in baseball. I think that he has the makings of
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Speaker 3: being that. Because he has that toughness, he's a very
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Speaker 3: cerebral pitcher. And he's also not afraid to speak his mind.
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Speaker 3: And a lot's been made of Reid Detmers wanting to
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Speaker 3: get more information. And when he wanted to get more information,
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Speaker 3: it led to a change in the pitching coach situation.
37:23
Speaker 3: And we see how that played out in the second
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Speaker 3: half of the season.
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Speaker 4: I saved the toughest one for last. You're not going
37:31
Speaker 4: to love it, but I got to ask it. Can
37:33
Speaker 4: you give me the pronunciation on the first baseman's last name?
37:39
Speaker 3: Nolan Shanawell?
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Speaker 4: There it is, Mike.
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Speaker 2: Shanawell. I thought it was wow, Shanawell.
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Speaker 3: Well, sometimes it's done well. It depends on.
37:49
Speaker 2: Where the ball goes.
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Speaker 3: How about that?
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Speaker 4: It's turned out so many different ways. I figured I'd
37:54
Speaker 4: get that in there. You've answered what my real question was.
37:58
Speaker 4: But I think it would be great to see the
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Speaker 4: group of guys that the Angels are going to have.
38:04
Speaker 4: We'll see what the 2027 season even looks like. Our
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Speaker 4: most recent episode before this was on the CBA episode.
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Speaker 4: Rather morose topic, but we needed to cover it. Hopefully
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Speaker 4: they get it. They get it ironed out. Be great
38:18
Speaker 4: to see some guys take a big step forward. Be
38:20
Speaker 4: great to see a guy like Urania repeat what he did.
38:22
Speaker 4: It'll be tough, but he's got the stuff to do it.
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Speaker 4: I guess if you could maybe give me your take
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Speaker 4: on maybe the top four spots in the order, a
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Speaker 4: couple of configurations or one for the fans out there
38:35
Speaker 4: are constantly wanting to tinker with who could lead off.
38:38
Speaker 4: Who could hit second, third? I personally think Neto is
38:41
Speaker 4: a better fourth hitter than he is a first, but
38:44
Speaker 4: Nolan Shonowal could be a table setter. Wade Meckler could
38:46
Speaker 4: be up there. Mike Trout's on bases. You can't ignore that.
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Speaker 4: Do you have any ideas that might make sense or
38:53
Speaker 4: might be fun for the fans to chew on?
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Speaker 3: Oh, this is good. I get to play manager for
38:57
Speaker 3: a moment. I think Mike's the leadoff guy. What does
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Speaker 3: he do best? He's getting on base at an extraordinarily
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Speaker 3: high clip. Didn't have a great year batting with runners
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Speaker 3: in scoring position. Didn't drive in all that many runs. Comparatively,
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Speaker 3: for what you expect, based on what he's done in
39:14
Speaker 3: his career. That's the one thing that's been able to translate.
39:17
Speaker 3: Even as Mike has gotten older, he's done a great
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Speaker 3: job of getting on base. That's what you want in
39:22
Speaker 3: your leadoff guy. Plus, I think even the reputation of
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Speaker 3: Mike Trout is gonna put a little fear into a
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Speaker 3: starting pitcher when this when the first at bat of
39:30
Speaker 3: the game i think that that means something i would
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Speaker 3: almost i would go trout one i'd bet netto two
39:35
Speaker 3: maybe shauna wells my three oh boy i don't know
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Speaker 3: i will have to we'll have to see who's on.
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Speaker 2: The roster where we go where.
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Speaker 4: We go for jazz chisholm.
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Speaker 2: You know what?
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I forgot to mention his name
39:52
Speaker 3: when you asked me about the prospects. There's another Villa
39:54
Speaker 3: Park guy that's incredible. Gavin Grahovic has the most power
39:58
Speaker 3: a Spartan has had since Mark Trumbo.
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Speaker 2: Wow. Light tower power. Wow. From Villa Park. What are
40:04
Speaker 2: they drinking over there? Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I'm not telling you. You live near a rival high school.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to name it.
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Speaker 4: But we keep those things to ourselves. Trent, thank you
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Speaker 4: very much.
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Speaker 1: Trent, thanks for joining us. We're going to close the
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Speaker 1: show with that. Trent Rush, Angels TV and radio broadcaster.
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Speaker 1: Really glad you could join us. Mark Trumbo, as always. Listeners,
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