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Menulog Gets Door Bashed: Valve Steam Machine & Rambo Prequel · Multiple Nerdgasm

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And as I said just before we started recording, I'm bringing
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it back. Ahoy ahoy.
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Ahoy. Ahoy, Luke, I've got a question
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to for you. To start off, how was your KFC?
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I shut down a. Business Welcome to multiple
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nerdgasm with your hosts, Matt. Luke.
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And Dan multiple nerdgasm, your guide to all things nerdy.
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Yeah, we got so I wouldn't I wasn't following this,
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obviously, because I'm not in Australia, but we got Nate was
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like, you guys fucked up Menulog.
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Yeah, he didn't say in those words.
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He's much less crass than I am. Yeah, he's very sophisticated.
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I've been writing them going like you don't have the
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infrastructure to handle business in.
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You've been writing to them and saying.
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Writing to them but say like just in Canberra.
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Maybe that's why they don't deliver your food with the
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quickest priority. They, they literally had some
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meeting the other day where they're like, we've been getting
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this feedback from this customer and I think he's right.
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Yeah, guys. Well.
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This guy's right. Like actually maybe a grumpy old
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man. I only.
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Thought it was in Canberra because it would say 40 minute
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estimate, fine, and then three hours later my food might
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arrive. Yeah.
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And I'm hungry now. You don't, you don't have enough
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drivers for this and they're, Oh no, you need to take into
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account traffic or something. I live in Canberra.
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I can drive from one side to the other 10 times in time.
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It's taken with your driver not to arrive.
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Yeah, right. Like don't try and throw traffic
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as a reason. You really have had these
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conversations, haven't you? This is not a bit you're doing
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I. Mean the listeners didn't have
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sort of had that conversation last week during the show.
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I've emailed them, I've spoken to them, I've said this to the
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people, and I'm sorry I got you all fired, but you just didn't
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have well. It doesn't sound like there's
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any staff to be fired. I think the problem is is they
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did have a big thing for a little while while they were
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spending a lot of money on advertising, Like a lot of
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money, like getting a lot of big stars.
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Celebrity endorsements, Yeah. Yep, and I think that's just
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where all the money went. OK, I'm scrolling down like they
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used to like Snoop Dogg, they would have Snoop Dogg doing and
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they used to have had the football all the time.
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And I honestly thought, I only thought it was a Canberra
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problem just due to there's 300, three, 100,000 people here so.
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Yeah, I mean, that sounds like a lot to me, but for a city,
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that's probably not much. Yeah, compared to the capital.
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City, Yeah. Well, are you?
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Maybe not, but yeah, they're shutting down.
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Literally shutting down when you look the parent company in
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Europe somewhere. I don't think I don't order food
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to deliver. I think the dollar.
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Simply can't afford it. They've given me credit and I'm
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going, no, I don't want credit, I want my money back.
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You don't that make money back 'cause you give.
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Me money, I bet they're giving everyone credit at the moment.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. Valid for that.
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Sometimes I'll say yes to that, like if it's 'cause I get stuff
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from Walmart, like groceries from Walmart, and if something
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shit, I'll go no, it's, you know, no good.
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Then they'll go, oh, do you want to refund to your credit and
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say, well, I'm going to use that next week?
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Yeah, yeah. But then if it's something more
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obscure, it's like, no, fuck you.
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Because they'll say, yeah, we. Can spending any money with you.
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Yeah, we can give you credit straight away or you can get a
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refund on your credit card in like 7 years.
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One of the things they used to love to do, which is to annoy
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the hell out of me, was they would there'd be an issue, they
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go, we had to cancel or wasn't believable or something.
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They'd go, OK, we'll give you a credit on your account for the
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amount that you spent. But to use that credit, you now
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need to spend a dollar. But yeah, I just want to
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reorder. What I the same thought.
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I don't want to spend more money.
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I just want my order back. I they could never just reorder
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for me. And then when you get have a
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really bad experience and they give you a credit, like, yeah,
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as a refund, I'm gonna give you a credit and it's like, but it's
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like 20 bucks and it's like, well, I'm not spending any more
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money with you. That's right.
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Yeah, Yeah, yeah. Give me another cold pizza.
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Thanks. Yeah, I really enjoyed that one,
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even though I am complaining about it.
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Yeah, we have some Walmart news, but it's probably after party
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news, although there's a lot of dead people piling up that that
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we could talk a bit then after party instead.
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Walmart's going to be closing. I think Walmart's here to stay.
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I'll be honest, no. No, no, no.
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They're in trouble. In some states, they're closed.
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OK. Closing stores.
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Shoplifting's just so bad they're going.
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Oh, wait. That's.
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Right. Just come and take it, mate.
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Just take it, take it all. There's people just come in and
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stealing. There's no point in else keeping
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our doors open. Jesus.
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Maybe they should close the doors.
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Maybe that's the problem? Yeah.
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No, look, we might as well talk about it.
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I mean, we're, we're talking about Walmart now.
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Anyway, have you guys seen this T-shirt?
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That's just been we're about to they've been they've been forced
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to to take down just Scroll down, Scroll down.
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Oh God. Oh, OK.
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Hmm. Oh.
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Interesting. Yeah, OK.
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See, I can sort of see what they're going for, but it also
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it doesn't work without having scissors.
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It says here that the So this is paper beats rock, and it's got a
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fist with a hand, but the hand is is seemingly doing a bit of
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throwing a bit of a sea, Kyle. And yeah, And it does say that
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both of these symbols are used by white supremacists.
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Is that the case? I've not seen the well.
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Actually, wasn't the the the Fist the Black Panther?
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Yeah, Black Panthers. Like they were the.
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From what I know, the Black Panthers that's the opposite of
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white. Rotation of the hand.
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Maybe it is, yes, Yeah. But that's not, I mean, I'm not
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that I'm an expert on the Black Panthers, but I think that's the
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wrong position of the hand because I.
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Remember, there was a documentary that I was going to
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watch one day and it was the guy.
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Because they, they like forward like that.
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This one's kind of like, more like a like it's going to be
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fisting your butt or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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There was a documentary I was going to watch once which was
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about the guy, I forget which, Linux.
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Was it was about? It was about the Olympics.
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This guy who came third I think was Australian or something, but
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it was about his sort of pointed out with like.
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Because he didn't do the hand, did he?
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But he just. Left it he he he was white, but
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he was yeah, there as part that's right yeah, his story in
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that like not taking part because it's not his story but.
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I think he still bowed his head and was very respectful cause
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and I think they told him in advance they were going to do
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it. And he was like, yeah, I agree.
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Yeah, it used to be a mural painted.
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Yeah, there was a mural painted somewhere on King Street I
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remember at one point. I might watch it one day.
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Yeah, yeah, where little vendors used to be, right on King
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Street, Yes. Correct.
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Yeah, around that area. Look, I don't want to derail
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this completely, but yeah, this easy mistake or subtle racism,
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but what do we think? Oh.
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I just. No, I think the creator of the
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shirt probably knew what they were doing.
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I'd have to say like you don't accidentally use two.
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Two of the three, yeah. If there was scissors in there
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somewhere, I could say. Honest mistake.
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Yeah, I could say if somebody at Walmart saw this, it meant OK.
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Yep, approved. Like because they didn't know.
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Yes, sure. Yeah.
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Like, but the person who made it, I mean, if if those are both
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white supremacist symbols, come on mate.
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But isn't Walmart also going along the lines of some other
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stores being like like like an Amazon online store?
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So not really. A print on demand.
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Yeah, this, yeah, this wouldn't be in in the store.
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This isn't their their, yeah, their proprietary brand.
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Yeah. Yeah, I'd say that's probably
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true. But like even if they do,
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because they do vet some of these, but you might not if if
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I'd seen this, I would have been like OK.
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I don't think I would. But I might not have, Yeah,
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exactly. But I would have probably might
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have laughed and sent it to you guys again.
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This looks like yeah, yeah. Throwing up a siegile anyway,
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approved because you know. But I I I reckon only like 10%
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of the stuff is actually looked at by a person.
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Yeah. If that.
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They're all they had Grok colours and as we all know, Grok
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is Mecca Hitler, so. Yes, Grok, Speaking of Hitler.
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I mean, I don't want to. I don't want to point fingers.
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You know. But go on, Germany have decided
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to implement mandatory conscription again for males
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over 18. Now I don't know if any of you
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were any of this. For I.
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Don't know if any of you guys are history buffs but the last
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two times that happened it was really bad news for us.
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What did they do? What's going on?
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I think they're worried about Russia.
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Oh, OK, well, that makes, that makes sense.
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I was gonna say, you think this whole all this stuff about when
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I was there and they're always like, oh, you know what a
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Hitler, what a knob. Yeah.
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And then we leave and they're like, think they bought it.
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Yeah, because if you went to Germany between World War One
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and Two, they'd be like Kaiser, what a knob, eh?
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And then you leave and they're. Like, Oh yeah, right.
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And secret, they'd be like, love you Kaiser.
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Sorry. Yes, yeah, we have to say it.
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So, so yeah, we're retreating here.
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It's sort of just the they want to sort of increase it by like a
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few 100,000 people And it says the war in Ukraine and A and a
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stark warning from the administration of Trump is that
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Europe must take responsibility for its own defence.
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Trump. 'S basically going oh I see you
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saw yourselves out now. Like yeah, even though I said I
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fix it all. Yeah, I was about to say that's
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actually a fair statement if he stays the fuck out of it.
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Yeah. Which he did, he did fix.
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He's just fixed Gaza, so. He did fix Thailand, Thailand
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and Laos, Thailand and Kenodia. Out of this league, I know you
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keep saying that, but I've never heard it.
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It's. Happened.
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Though how is it possible that he did that and he doesn't talk
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about it? That's what I want to know.
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But didn't he also maybe just a country that he fixed?
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Didn't he say that he he fixed the war in Moldova or something?
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And they're like, I think we had a war.
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Here, Yeah, Aberbaijan. Aberbaijan, yeah.
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But but. But the what real one that he
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just. Don't remember spots of the
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fucking continent. Yeah, and.
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It did happen. Yeah, no, I believe you.
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I believe, I believe you that they believe that.
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Yeah. Well, also I guess it does make
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sense that Germany would be concerned about Russia again
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again so. Yet again, what?
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Mind you, the first time they were concerned about Russia,
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they had every it's. Because they knew they were
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right. Pissed them off.
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Correct. They they, they, they knew.
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Then the second time they they buddied up with Russia.
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And then halfway through the war went ha ha, surprise.
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Like, yeah. Track record what?
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Are you doing? But yeah, I can understand why
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now of all times they they won't protect themselves.
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Yeah, the Old East in front, the Aust front, as they would call
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it. Their plan, I believe was to we
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just need to kill France as quickly as possibly as so we can
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run back over, turn around. Russia won't kill us.
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Russia. Yeah, that's the plan, Yeah.
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Yeah, OK. Was it Dan Carlin?
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Was it somebody else had the analogy of like you've been
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invited to two pub fights on the same night so you get to 1 early
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with the plan to just to splash one dude?
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We need to, yeah, we need really bad as soon as.
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Because you don't want to fight two guys at once.
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Is it the Schlieffen Plan? Yeah, the Schlieffen plan.
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Yeah, that's like if we don't beat France within three days,
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we are fucked. Yeah, we're just gonna work
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because yeah, they were fucked because Belgium fucked them.
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But in the Second World War they were like, didn't they get to
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Paris in like a day? Like and.
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Paris Just. Went to France's Take It.
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Yeah. I think Paris has they didn't.
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They didn't really do that. They they decided they were
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trying to destroy their their Navy or something before before
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it happened though I think they were before they surrendered.
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I think they were trying to destroy infrastructure but
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didn't get to it in time. But my history is not good.
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I. Mean.
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It's really not good. Maybe it is a history podcast.
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If you want a history. Podcast.
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This episode is brought to you by The Rest is History.
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It's not. It's not, but you should listen
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to The Rest is History. It's very.
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Very good. Yeah, I was listening to 1 only
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today. And also Dan Cohen's Hardcore
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History is also very good. Yes, if you can wait a year
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between episodes, but they're well worth it.
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Yeah, and I say episodes, they're sometimes five hours
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long. Yes, yeah.
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The rest is history's more bites.
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I'm not a bites size, it's an hour but it's and it's frequent
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and it's very good. Yes, and they're very good.
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They're very good. Very knowledgeable.
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I'll just stick to my Flat Earth debates.
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Speaking of knowledgeable, I need some knowledge from Luke.
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You haven't yet told us how the fuck yes handheld is and I used.
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To know and I love it. OK.
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Good, good. Can you elaborate on that?
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Every. I'm playing it at lunch a lot.
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I'll just go like leave work. I'll leave work for an hour, go
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play it for an hour. That's just great.
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I'm playing. The hour you playing, can we
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admit that publicly? I'm playing it in a place in
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Canberra, I'm playing it publicly and battery loss and
14:04
I'm playing in The Outer Worlds 2 and it runs and like really
14:09
well. Yeah, right.
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Sick. And yeah, no, it's, it's great.
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I recommend it. OK.
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How much was it? It was, I think, a 1500
14:21
Australian no. It's actually I thought,
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actually that's not as bad as I was thinking.
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Actually I thought you were going to say more than that.
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Your other one was more than that.
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Well, other one was more. Than the A&E next.
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Yeah, and that battery on that sucks, but this one, a few
14:34
hours, like decent few hours playing like The Outer Worlds
14:38
when the A&E next would struggle playing like $5 games for an
14:43
hour. Yeah, right.
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You think they're eating some of the cost on the?
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The Xbox battery. Well, they don't do that
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anymore. I guess I don't.
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Think they do anymore, Do they? Yeah.
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Well, no, they're probably. I don't know if they are.
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Matt, I've just noticed Luke is wearing a clenched fist shirt
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and I don't know the context of it.
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Oh, from Walmart? No, it's a cure.
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No, it's definitely a white. Oh, OK.
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Cure cancer. Cure cancer.
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Cure cancer. Racism.
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Wait, because white blood cells are better than red blood cells?
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Actually, no. Too many white blood cells is
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bad for you, isn't it? Right.
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Too many of anything. Too many is the key phrase
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there, yes. So there's news this week about
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game consoles and whatnot. No new Steam Deck yet, although
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they did say there is one coming.
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However, Valve have announced a bunch of shit.
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Yeah. Basically released an Xbox.
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Yeah, they've got Steam Controller, which, yes, OK,
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looks. Looks nice.
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Looks like a nice controller. That was the first step.
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And then they said, oh, by the way, also the fucking steam, Was
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it Steam Box? What's it called?
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Steam Machine. Steam Machine?
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Yeah, it's a PC machine. I'm pretty sure Xbox have
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trademarked the word box at this point, yeah.
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Yes. It's a console slash.
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It's basically it's APC, they said.
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It literally says on the website, you can put whatever
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you want on this. We don't care.
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Yeah, it's it's APC. But it's not as it's just as
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powerful as a Xbox. There is X as in PS-5, but it's
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not, yeah, pushing boundaries or anything.
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Which is. Oh, sure.
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Sure, sure. Oh no, quite weird when this is
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getting like Series X and the PX5 are starting to get to the
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end of their life cycle. Yeah, and they're starting to
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prepare for the next. One I see which is.
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And then Valve come out with something to go, and now we're
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here too with something that's. Already the same as the thing
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you've had for five years. Yeah.
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Yeah, what's got and Avi headset is the other thing, yeah.
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Which? The cute little one is cool.
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Yeah, pretty cool. It's going to.
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Be expensive. I'm hearing that I haven't they
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they haven't announced an actual price.
16:53
You I think you said in the chat the other day you heard 800
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bucks. Yeah, I heard 800.
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This article says it's going to cost 1000 or more.
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Which is ridiculous for essentially a console for APC.
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Yeah. Well, and while you can run this
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as APC. Windows on it and whatnot.
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Isn't the whole idea that they're trying?
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To it's APC with a better graphics card than I could
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afford if I was building APC from scratch though.
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That's what I'm wondering is it, is it still like I, I know what
17:21
you're saying, Luke, but as a is it cheaper or the same as
17:27
building something similar? I could build something cheaper
17:31
that's better than this. Yeah.
17:34
All right, if we're going. About We'll e-mail them and call
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them and tell them that you do not have the you're.
17:39
Gonna next building these if that goes out of business after
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receiving feedback. If it comes in that USA thousand
17:46
you could build something cheaper.
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Yeah, fairly. I mean, this thing looks pretty
17:51
cool. I don't know.
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I don't know that I personally have A use for something like
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this. I couldn't justify.
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This. I.
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Think if I was going to buy a PC, I'll buy one that can do my
18:05
music stuff and and I need it to do more things than just play
18:07
games and I'm not quite sure this like I need basically I
18:10
need more RAM for the stuff that I do so yes you.
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Want to know what it is Xbox and Val have been talking?
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Have they? I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna say.
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Xbox is saying wear out your. You know, something like.
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I just have a feeling because like if you look at my hand
18:28
held, I can run Steam on it natively.
18:31
Like don't have to do anything special.
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It's just already on there. And with Xbox going the way of
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anything's an Xbox, I think Valva just jumping on, well, we
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could. This is an Xbox.
18:45
This is an. Xbox and you, but you can also
18:47
run or use Steam games as well. Yeah.
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So I think, I mean that's the compelling proposition is that.
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If you just back up a SEC, Luke, you've got a there's a Steam app
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on your Yep, like an Xbox handheld.
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Yeah, interesting. I can go play all my Steam
19:03
games. Remind me of the cost that is
19:05
interesting, this piece of machinery.
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About 15, it's about 1500 and I got the top line one.
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There's a cheaper one, but OK. But yeah, but Steam.
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Deck is cheaper than that, but you'd have to.
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Steam Deck was. Extreme Xbox stuff.
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Yeah, which you can install you need.
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Subscription to do that? I can't do that.
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And doesn't stream stream all of your games yet they're still
19:30
working on it. Yeah, true.
19:32
But no, I've installed the other world so I don't even need to be
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connected to the Internet to be playing the games.
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Yeah, right. Interesting.
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Is that the same with Steam? I don't know.
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I haven't tried anything with Steam.
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I just know that I can see it's Yeah, right.
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I have never, I used them a lot, but I use it for like adventure
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games and indie games and stuff like that.
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Yeah, because I've never had APC to really push Steam gaming to
20:00
the the limits. I've never played a AAA title on
20:03
Steam. Yeah, I've got.
20:05
I've resubscribed to temporarily to G Force now because it just
20:12
lets me play stuff that I I can run some stuff on my Mac.
20:17
OK. Like I for some reason I wanted
20:18
to play endless space too the other day and I was like, I can
20:24
run it on my Mac, but it's not ideal.
20:26
And I think Endless Space too. Game I'm thinking of.
20:30
Yeah, it is Endless Space too. Oh yes.
20:33
Yes and then GeForce Now has like a mid tier and I was like
20:35
well I'm not paying for the Xbox stuff anymore so I can kind of
20:39
justify 10 bucks a month on this other.
20:40
Thing and you can place that until you get and.
20:44
It also it now lets you install games and you can pay a bit
20:46
extra for persistent storage. I haven't done that yet, but you
20:49
can install these Steam games. And so in theory, because the
20:52
way I play adventure games and so because I'm on a Mac, there's
20:57
some games that are not on don't work on a Mac.
21:00
I've Parallels virtual machine. I've Windows 11 in a virtual
21:04
machine and I can play like I play Bigger Boss Incident and
21:08
some other stuff in AVM and if I don't have to do that anymore
21:11
that would be ideal. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, but the
21:15
idea of being able to just install it sounds great because
21:17
that's like that's the like that the the PlayStation one, it was
21:22
just the suckiest thing in the world.
21:23
It was super expensive and you would just.
21:25
And it was. Just had to stream from your
21:28
Xbox, from your PlayStation. Yeah.
21:31
Which, yeah, because that was expensive, wasn't it?
21:34
It was like. You also had to buy it.
21:35
Oh. Yeah, yeah.
21:36
You still have to stream it though.
21:38
The media thing, Persistent storage on their servers to
21:41
install. Games and stuff.
21:42
Oh. Yeah.
21:44
On mine I can install games. Yeah, right, right.
21:48
Of course, Yeah. And I can actually increase the.
21:50
I was having a look. I can actually increase the
21:52
storage. Can you?
21:54
It's got like ASD card or something.
21:56
No, you got a special. Proprietary thing.
22:00
No, just normal SD card. You can just.
22:03
Just normal. Buy and install from Yeah, it's
22:06
not like the Series X where you have to buy the special one that
22:08
plugs in. This one looks like you just buy
22:10
a normal SD and just upgrade then.
22:14
Why is the Series X need a special?
22:15
You know it doesn't matter. Was that the time before Xbox
22:19
were going down the path of everything's an Xbox?
22:22
Or maybe it's those new SD cards like the Switch 2 needs.
22:26
Check that the Switch 2 needs some fancy new SD card.
22:32
Type I, I it's. Like really fast.
22:34
At the moment I don't need it, so I'm not too worried about it
22:37
because I probably ain't going to play one or two games at a
22:40
time. It's not like with my Series X
22:42
where I'll jump between games four times a day, if that, if
22:47
more. Playing No Man's Sky still, I
22:49
fucking love that. Game I installed it.
22:51
So good. I need to see another.
22:54
Expedition. Got.
22:55
Installed Corvette parts, got myself a new base in the side of
22:59
a mountain. On AI don't have time for this.
23:02
This all sounds excellent for somebody who has more time.
23:04
Than I really good especially it's good for if you want to
23:08
listen to a podcast or even Papa James Bond movie on that you've
23:12
seen a million times but you just want to rewatch them all.
23:15
Been doing that still. Yeah, there's a there's a
23:17
perfect game for that because there's the story is whatever
23:20
you feel like doing. It's not a.
23:23
Can I just say this is just while I think of it, you know,
23:26
sometimes the universe comes together and you, you know, it
23:29
feels like the destiny in a way. Trivia The other night there was
23:33
a question about what is the highest military award given in
23:37
the, in the Russian military or, or the, or the Soviet military.
23:41
I think it might have been talking about current, I'm not
23:44
sure. But literally the night before
23:48
trivia, I have watched View to a Kill, and at the end of that
23:51
movie, James Bond is given the order of Lennon.
23:54
Yeah, Russian government. And you know, it's one of those
23:56
things where I was just like, fuck off.
23:59
Yeah, this question. Did you have to convince anyone
24:03
else on the team? I think I said.
24:05
And I think they. Thought the order of Lennon.
24:08
Yeah, because it's a ridiculous movie.
24:10
Because he said he saves Silicon Valley.
24:13
Because Max Orin, Christopher Walker's character is gonna
24:16
flood Silicon Valley, so he's the only chip manufacturer.
24:19
But then Russia is happy because they need microchips.
24:22
Do they call it Silicon Valley even in back then?
24:25
Yeah, call it Silicon Valley in the movie.
24:26
Oh shit. Yeah, I always think that's a
24:28
much. Much.
24:30
I mean, that movie's the 80s. Yeah, I guess so.
24:33
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I guess I'm not.
24:34
Sure, exactly. But I'm up to Timothy Dalton
24:36
now. Yeah, yeah.
24:40
I've watched those more recently.
24:41
I watched them a couple of years ago, but it's all right, it's
24:44
all right. I'll play no in Sky while I'm
24:45
watching them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:50
We might have some James Bond news in the after party when
24:54
we're going through our gigs of the week contestants.
24:57
No, just putting that out there. Contestants.
25:00
That's not the right contenders. No contenders, yeah.
25:07
Speaking of games. We do.
25:10
Well, I actually, I was excited by this.
25:12
Some people are disappointed by this.
25:13
I'm excited by it. Red Red Dead Redemption first
25:16
one is getting a next Gen. update and I was excited about
25:20
that. Yeah, people, I love that game.
25:21
This article are disappointed because, and this is odd, Red
25:25
Dead Redemption 2 has not been given a next Gen. update.
25:29
But it already. But it looks better anyway, just
25:31
from the years of. Yeah.
25:33
It seems like the article makes the point and I do agree.
25:37
It came out on Xbox 363 Sixty. No, not 360 Xbox.
25:44
No Xbox One. What's the one in between the
25:46
one we have now on the? 1/3 Xbox One, I thought, Really.
25:50
Yeah, it came out on Xbox One and then the Xbox Series X, and
25:53
that came out and on the PC, right.
25:55
Red Dead Redemption 2 is still a modern game and it's got 60 or
25:58
upwards of 60 FPS. It's got none of these
26:00
limitations or whatever, so why can't they just, you know, take
26:05
the take the lid off the console version and and just, you know,
26:10
take the frame cap off and stuff.
26:11
Here's the thing that probably people have been begging for Red
26:14
Red Red Redemption remaster for ages as.
26:18
Well, but they don't need to remaster to, they just need to
26:21
take the frame rate limit off or or something.
26:24
I mean it sounds simple. I'm sure if it was that easy,
26:27
I'm sure if they were like why don't you just untick the frame
26:30
limit box? No, I refuse.
26:32
Microsoft thought they were going to release it.
26:34
That's what that's this article goes into that too, because when
26:37
there was that big court case about, what was the court case
26:40
about? But I remember this and
26:42
Microsoft said Oh yeah there's an upcoming Red Dead Redemption
26:44
2 next Gen. update because it's the it's a modern game anyway.
26:50
Yeah, I'd quite happily play Red Dead Redemption again.
26:52
That was a great game. Yeah, I'm happy to play the
26:54
first one again. That was great in.
26:55
A in a In a way I liked it better.
26:57
Yeah, yeah, I agree. Actually, I finished it, you
26:59
know, and I didn't finish the second one.
27:01
Well, because the second one was so long, it was unfinishable.
27:05
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm excited that's coming
27:10
out. When is that coming out?
27:11
Does it say? No, not that I say, but because
27:18
this is coming out and. Then doesn't say.
27:19
Fallout 3's coming out as well. Fallout 3's already out.
27:24
I'll have you they're. Going to do the same thing with
27:27
Fallout 3 as they did with Oblivion.
27:29
Do it with New Vegas. You cowards don't care about
27:32
Fallout 3. Well, I don't know how if they
27:35
could do that as easily because with licensing it's a little bit
27:38
differently. I.
27:39
Don't care. Because it's what I want.
27:40
To work it out, work it out. Mind you, I played it last year
27:45
through again, it's fine. You don't even need a remaster.
27:48
Just play it. It's still great.
27:50
Three or New Vegas? New Vegas.
27:51
New Vegas. Yeah, New Vegas is great.
27:54
I still I never. Finished it especially because
27:56
the new season Fallout show's got stuff from New Vegas.
27:59
It's got New Vegas in it it. Does cash you call it Kalken?
28:03
Yeah, cash in and give me what I give me I.
28:06
Still don't believe that they released a Fallout TV series
28:09
without having a Fallout game ready.
28:12
I think they rushed to get they're rushed to get the
28:14
Fallout remaster done by another studio like blooming on it.
28:18
But how do you not have that ready and why does it take you
28:22
don't take long between these games Now the.
28:24
Bethesda's gone driving themselves into the ground, to
28:27
be honest. Yeah, like you look, it's we've
28:30
been waiting, what, 15 years for Elder Scrolls Six they released.
28:34
I sort of think it's got years to go.
28:37
Yeah, it's got years to go, they said.
28:38
Got years to go and they released three other games in
28:41
less time than that in The Elder Scrolls series that were good
28:45
games. Yeah, but still, I mean, I can't
28:48
believe they like when I look at Skyrim, I can't believe that was
28:52
released and as big and as in depth.
28:57
Like if you'd said that took 50 years, I'd still say well that's
29:02
pretty quick considering all this shit in it like.
29:04
My my guess is they're just trying to go bigger, which
29:09
sometimes you don't need bigger. I mean, that's what they tell
29:12
you, but they're just telling my wife, Luke, they do want bigger.
29:15
Yeah. They do.
29:18
They do they. Do, I'll tell you what,
29:19
something that's stupid. I started playing Black Ops 7
29:22
today because it came out on Game Pass.
29:24
Yeah. I don't have time for that.
29:25
Public 7. Oh, you can't play, There's no
29:29
single player campaign. It's a Co-op.
29:31
Kim K. Yeah, because nobody buys that
29:34
game to just play on their own. You're just buying it because
29:37
you're 15 and you and your mates want to play it.
29:40
Yeah, but. You're the only one who wants a
29:42
single player. Campaign for that.
29:44
I've got the campaign, but I have to join a lobby and say I
29:48
don't want anyone else to join for A to start.
29:51
And I can't even pause the game. And if I die because there's no
29:56
one else, I go back to the start of the mission.
29:58
There's no checkpoints, there's no nothing.
30:00
And it's all like, I just want to play the game by myself.
30:03
Dad, I'm trying to join a server but there's a grumpy old man.
30:06
He won't let anyone in his game. He's ranting about his KFC.
30:12
He tells me I don't have the infrastructure and I was.
30:17
Right. You did not have the
30:18
infrastructure for this game. I think kicked off this server.
30:25
I played I'm. Thinking of it, yeah, there you
30:27
go. No, you go all.
30:30
Right, Mass Effect 5, apparently.
30:31
Still have gone. Yeah, yes, I've been seeing some
30:34
stuff about this. They released a a short trailer.
30:37
Sorry, it's called Mass Effect 5 because we're counting Mass
30:40
Effect whatever the fuck as four.
30:43
Are we? I don't think they are though.
30:46
Yeah, this is not going to be called Mass Effect 5.
30:49
No, this is just skipping and drop it up because it's.
30:52
Probably just going to call Mass Effect because that's how they
30:54
can. Yeah, that's how I think that.
30:56
Would confuse you. Yeah, Mass Effect 2026, it'll be
30:58
called, Yeah. That's what we'll have to call
31:00
it. It'll just say Mass Effect,
31:01
yeah, everything and confuse everybody.
31:03
But. People want to be speculating.
31:04
Mass Effects. The plural.
31:07
People are speculating that in the last teaser trailer that
31:10
there was a bit of a spoiler that one of the things maybe
31:13
main cannon, which is the genophage for the yeah what was
31:19
that race again? Krogan's.
31:20
Krogan's that what may have been done that may be cannon because
31:26
the Krogan's are running around. Oh, oh, oh, I.
31:30
See. The cure of Yeah, Yeah.
31:34
Yeah, OK, it. Took me a minute because I've
31:37
I've played this game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:39
Because remember, you had to make a decision whether you
31:42
spread it out or you kept it for yourself.
31:44
But there's also the other thing of just because they didn't
31:49
release the Q within doesn't mean people weren't still
31:51
working on it. True.
31:54
But if you recall that one of the fantastic things about Mass
31:59
Effect is that if you log in as the same character, whatever
32:04
decisions you made in the previous game carry over.
32:06
God, yeah, yeah. Like it's so amazing.
32:09
Like, no, I'm sorry, I don't think.
32:10
They're going to be able to die. In the last game, I don't think
32:13
they'll be able to do it now. I'd love it that we're able to
32:16
do it now, but I don't think it's possible.
32:20
Yeah, like I think they're going to have to pick a storyline and
32:23
go with it. And I think with the ending of
32:26
three. It's like with Deus Ex at the
32:32
Was it Mankind divided? And then no, Mankind Divided.
32:35
What was the first one? Human Revolution.
32:37
At the end there were three endings.
32:39
You can pick which one it was and then at the start of Mankind
32:42
Divided, it said they all happened like it didn't matter.
32:47
It didn't matter what you picked and it was like fuck off.
32:49
Then why'd you? I don't know.
32:50
It's. That's why you give at least
32:52
with the like the three Mass Effects that trilogy, your
32:55
decisions did carry across for every single game.
32:59
Until the end of the third one and their any path led to the
33:03
pretty much the same. Oh, yeah, with the little kid,
33:05
Yeah, yeah. Everyone went back and finished
33:10
to see what the updated ending was.
33:13
Me either, actually only played through 3/1.
33:17
I did. I feel I did I.
33:19
Feel I did suicide jumped off a bridge.
33:24
Yeah, you did not have a good time.
33:26
Did you lose a lot of people in two as well?
33:28
Was it? Yeah, yeah, I did have.
33:30
I had a play through of two where everybody died.
33:32
Yeah, yeah. But I was the only thing is I.
33:35
Upgrading the ship. For some reason I played
33:38
Massive. The first one I played on the
33:39
360, the second one I played on my PC because I had a gaming PC
33:45
at the time, and the third one I wanted to play on the 360 which
33:48
meant I couldn't import my save from 2.
33:51
And so it asks you questions at the start, but not everything.
33:54
And there was something. Vivid idea.
33:56
I forget the specific like Jack I think would only be in the
34:00
game at all if you imported a save where she was your friend
34:05
and stuff. So I just never got any of that
34:06
stuff. So I should do a replay of them
34:09
all? I suppose I'm.
34:11
Trying to get a little car in the first one I don't.
34:14
I love that thing. Why would the?
34:15
Remake version? Doesn't the remastered version
34:17
fix some of that stuff? Does it?
34:18
No, the Mako was in it like every.
34:21
Every was it? Every.
34:22
Every single one. They just changed what the Mako
34:25
was to how much you actually used it.
34:27
Less and less, yeah. Yes, I actually enjoyed it.
34:33
Yeah, you've said this before. Because I'm not, I'm not going
34:36
to. Pretend I did.
34:38
We're not playing with the hardest difficulty when you're
34:39
on a planet you could actually use it just to sit back far away
34:42
and just snipe people with it. Drive clothes.
34:45
Driving so much, Why don't you go work for Menulog?
34:47
Yeah, why don't you download the original police quest and just
34:52
do all the driving bits in that? Yeah, the worst driving in any
34:56
game ever. Don't forget to walk around your
34:58
car before you get in. Yeah, I learned a fact this week
35:02
about police quests. It's just, if I can segue for a
35:04
quick second, Police Quest 2 right, was released in Japan, as
35:10
many Angels Quest games were. No, that's the first one in
35:14
pursuit of the Death Angel. The second one is just called
35:16
the Vengeance because he comes back.
35:20
Can't remember his name. No, can't remember it.
35:25
No. Don't remember.
35:26
No, it's. The main character.
35:27
Danny Bond to see him, but it's snap in Japan.
35:33
It had a reskin. It's the only Sierra game that
35:36
did this. He just made all the characters
35:38
look a bit more Japanese. Well, really now before you get
35:43
excited, I don't mean that way. They've just got like different
35:47
headshots. I know what you're thinking,
35:50
man. It's not that.
35:52
It's just that they're in different the.
35:55
The the stylish is a little bit different with what they were
35:57
staring and stuff. Yeah, yeah, correct.
35:59
Yeah. That's all I was thinking, yeah.
36:03
Sure. Oh.
36:07
Very cool. Well police quest 2 had more
36:09
detailed graphics than police quest one for example.
36:12
It did. Police quest.
36:13
One it did by actually quite a considerable.
36:15
Mark they could be any, They could look like anything.
36:17
They're little blocky things. Yeah, yeah.
36:23
I think that's all the game news we've got.
36:27
I'll just, I'll just quickly say I was at listen to Grant's house
36:30
today and the three of us, Grant myself and his son, who is, I
36:37
don't know, he maybe we're playing Minecraft and he's
36:43
infinitely more knowledgeable and more experienced than than
36:47
other of, of we are. And I think we should let him
36:51
onto our server. I think I think it was really
36:54
into our realm. Someone should be on there.
36:57
Yeah, I mean, he he's even offered to just to just mine for
37:01
us. And yeah, he just loves to mine.
37:04
Hey, you guys know we're in the copper age now.
37:07
You can build tools with copper. Wait, I don't.
37:12
Think. No, it's all micro.
37:13
Tools. You can now.
37:14
You can now. Because a couple was filled up.
37:17
Update. Yeah, copper.
37:19
You could make bricks basically or.
37:20
Because I found so much copper and I was this stuff is useless.
37:24
Now you can make copper tools. Matt doesn't believe me.
37:28
No, no, I do. I'm just.
37:29
I just realized I'm. Matt's calling me a service.
37:31
Still good, right? Have you been you guys been on?
37:34
I haven't been on. Yeah, OK, I might go on.
37:37
Maybe I'll pop on tomorrow, just.
37:40
Want to make sure it's still good?
37:42
No one's complained. That doesn't mean that anyone's
37:44
on there. No, yeah.
37:50
Can't log in? Talk amongst yourselves.
37:53
No. Well, I'm just looking at one of
37:54
these things that's on here, which it doesn't make sense to
37:57
me. So this the the New York
37:59
restaurant that's using Filipino staff on Zoom?
38:03
Yeah, what the fuck? What the How does?
38:06
How's that legal? Yeah, I don't know how it's
38:11
legal, maybe. Especially in America at the
38:13
moment, because this is like you're worried about importing
38:16
anything and now you're just actively importing workers that
38:19
aren't even in the country. Yeah, they don't see.
38:23
Yeah. Well, no, I mean they are being
38:24
paid just to be clear, but they're yeah, they're zoom,
38:29
they're zooming in from the Philippines.
38:32
They're not the table staff, obviously, they're the front.
38:36
I know there was in Japan, there was a restaurant that had robots
38:41
that were doing sort of the table service, but they were
38:43
actually being controlled by people who couldn't physically
38:48
go to work. Like we were bedrooted.
38:50
So yeah, at home, controlling the robots, delivering the stuff
38:54
so that I was still actively working, but because they
38:57
couldn't because of disability. So I thought that's a good idea.
39:01
This is just. I did.
39:03
I went to a ramen restaurant in Japan where I didn't see another
39:06
human being. I mean, I saw the people I was
39:08
there with. But like when you're outside in
39:11
the restaurant, you just punch into a a tablet what you want
39:15
and you go in and sit down and then it comes out a little
39:17
fucking slot like and like. You used to love you've already
39:22
been charged places in Japan where it come and it come in a
39:24
little train and just stop in front of you know exactly where
39:27
to stop. You take yours off and just go
39:29
back. Here little tiny train driver
39:30
knows what he's doing, Luke. Yeah, Yeah, that's right.
39:33
Yeah. All aboard.
39:37
Little tiny she's. Getting you driving the train.
39:41
This is next level, isn't it? Yeah, this is bizarre.
39:45
So you they're getting paid in New York?
39:47
Yeah, New York. Maybe I'll go check it out.
39:49
I mean, is this different to Telstra farming out their call
39:54
centre to India and then just pretending they're they're in
39:57
Australia? Because that happens, yeah.
40:00
Well, I find this to be a bit more weird.
40:03
It'd be happening in America at the moment when Trump is all big
40:07
on. They're bringing everything back
40:09
and then you've actually actively got people just on
40:13
Zoom. Don't even have to be here to
40:15
take our jobs anymore. Yeah.
40:18
I love it though that there's, I mean, there's all this talk
40:20
about like immigrants and, and all this stuff, but the only
40:23
actual protests I've seen of people saying that Jews are
40:26
going to take their jobs and it's like, what?
40:28
Jews are going to take your jobs, Kate.
40:30
There's a big billboard in Providence right now that I
40:32
drive past on the way home from work because it faces N It says
40:36
you don't have to be a Jew to protect Jews.
40:40
Oh, and I'm like, we don't know. We need the Billboard.
40:43
To tell people not. To.
40:46
Not to fucking. Do that victimized you did this
40:48
right when I saw a movie and there was like apsa in during
40:52
the ads before a movie that was like, you know, Jews of people
40:56
too. It's like do we need?
40:57
What is it like? Why do we need that?
40:59
Has it gotten that bad? I guess it has.
41:01
It has, Matt 100% it has. So.
41:05
Strange and and they're not doing themselves any favours,
41:08
right? I'm just saying I'm on your
41:11
side. If you need, you need a new PR
41:14
person on your side. But I don't know, it's sort of
41:18
weird because some of the protests I've been saying like
41:20
people come, oh, people come over taking our jobs and stuff.
41:23
The jobs that they're taking, 100 jobs that you you want
41:25
anyway, they're the jobs that are sitting there that don't pay
41:28
a lot that you don't want. Yeah, I haven't seen a lot of
41:32
Jews waiting in the car park of Home Depot, right, Yeah.
41:39
We don't see anybody doing that anymore.
41:42
It's too risky. Is it?
41:44
They will snap you up. They meaning ice.
41:49
Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, they do.
41:51
Yeah, they do raids and whatnot. Raids everywhere and it doesn't
41:54
matter. You can be legal and still get
41:58
Yeah, yeah, you got away the wrong colour.
41:59
Yeah, yeah, Fair. Yeah, I don't go to Home Depot
42:01
at all. If if.
42:02
Best to ask forgiveness them permission I guess.
42:05
Well, there seems to be in the few guys that were taken away,
42:08
deported, and then even the courts went, no, they're
42:13
citizens and they're still not allowed to come back.
42:16
Yeah. Because they don't have a a way
42:19
to to to do that. Find apparently.
42:22
Yeah, that should. Yeah.
42:23
It's, it's a little scary. It's.
42:26
Really scary. But we've solved that problem.
42:29
We just need to put a computer there and people can work
42:33
currently. Don't need to be here anymore,
42:36
do you? Although I'm assuming these
42:37
people are not being paid American wages.
42:39
Are paid they're being paid minimum wage from.
42:41
No, no, no. But this is an interesting
42:42
question, right? Because I mean look the the
42:46
reason I. Think that American wages are
42:47
that great? For the record, moon and wage
42:49
here is garbage. Yeah, I know.
42:50
From what I understand, they're they're not.
42:52
But people immigrate from Central and South America to the
42:58
United States for work, right? They're not just doing it for
43:01
the rolling hills and majesty, right?
43:03
They're doing it for the for the American dollar.
43:05
Presumably because they're able to have a horrible time down.
43:07
There, yeah, but if you they're. Just looking for opportunities.
43:10
Yeah, but if you told them you could have opportunities where
43:12
you can just Skype into America, but you can't live here, would
43:16
that be better or worse? I don't know.
43:19
I. Think it really comes down to
43:20
what they're getting paid a little bit and I reckon they're
43:23
not getting paid. Well, and probably not
43:25
presumably where they live too. Yeah, like if you live in a
43:27
shit. Hole like well sorry I can
43:30
answer that if they were getting paid.
43:31
I don't mean that that South America is a shit hole.
43:33
That's. Not what I meant by that.
43:35
Please don't think that was a shit hole.
43:38
I'm saying if you live in a place that you don't like.
43:40
If you live in the third. World Skyping into work is not
43:42
going to help. No, that's right.
43:44
But also just still. There.
43:45
I think this answers its own question.
43:47
If they were being paid minimum wage, they'd just hire somebody
43:50
who lives there. They wouldn't need to hire
43:52
somebody from the third world. Yeah.
43:57
Yeah, yeah. So yeah.
43:58
Mexico is very nice. I did not.
44:00
And also Mexico is not South America.
44:01
I'm not helping myself. Now we know you like we know
44:05
you're pro Mexican man. That's all right.
44:07
Yeah, I am. A pro ramen too, just for the
44:15
record, I. Love ramen?
44:18
Love a good ramen and I don't like talking to an actual human
44:22
face to face so this is ideal for me.
44:24
Oh no I don't. I don't even want to talk to
44:26
someone on a screen, I just want to push buttons.
44:29
You know, to be clear, there's a lot of restaurants now here.
44:32
You don't get to talk to anyone anyway.
44:33
This is the little tablet on the table.
44:36
So in a way, this is even better.
44:38
Oh, the. Tablet's fine.
44:39
I hate it when there's just a fucking QR code and you're like,
44:42
I can't even order for the whole table now.
44:44
Like, Oh yeah, everyone's just ordering for themselves.
44:47
Yeah, they're all on our phones. Yeah, at a restaurant now.
44:51
Yeah, and a reception sucks. It takes her over and there's no
44:54
one there. And yeah.
44:56
And your KFC doesn't show up to the table.
44:58
And then you just close down, get them to close down the
45:00
business. As it should be.
45:06
What have we got here? Oh, you've got the movie news.
45:09
Yeah. Can I just can I quickly mention
45:11
something you'll notice down at cell 50 I've.
45:14
Yes, I did notice. That put in the name of half a
45:16
movie because I've watched half of this.
45:18
I've watched half of this movie and I could because I did fall.
45:20
I mean, I didn't fall asleep, but I can only watch half a
45:22
movie a a night now. I meant last.
45:24
Night typing the name of the movie?
45:25
Oh, sure. Last night I I watched the first
45:28
half of Guillermo del Toro's. If I could still watch this.
45:32
Yeah, you do. It's excellent.
45:34
Yeah, OK. That's.
45:35
Pretty much exactly what you want it to be.
45:37
Yeah, I've heard that it's very good, and I've heard that it's
45:40
so good that it's confusing that Netflix haven't pushed it more
45:43
than they have. Right.
45:45
Especially. I mean, because it is like it's
45:48
out and everyone knows, but they're not.
45:50
It hasn't been like advertising the way that you would advertise
45:53
a feature film normally. Yeah, I guess all the billboards
45:56
where you are are saying please don't bash and Jews.
46:00
When I when I turn on net well. They've got all the money.
46:02
They outbid Guillermo del Toro, presumably.
46:07
But that's what all the money anytime I turn.
46:08
You heard it here. Any time I turn on Netflix,
46:13
it'll honestly pop up with like, like only on Netflix, and it's a
46:17
ton of shows that they've cancelled.
46:19
Yeah, I don't understand why they do that.
46:22
We made one season. Only one season.
46:24
Yeah, it's the only Yeah, except for Stranger Things.
46:28
For some reason that one is still going.
46:30
Yeah, Despite that awful second season, managed to make it
46:34
through. That the middle part of that
46:36
just made no sense. Yeah, not all the sessions,
46:38
just. Ran off to the city.
46:40
Yeah, let's split them up and let's introduce a whole bunch of
46:43
new characters, not the ones you like already.
46:46
You can make this a superhero show, no?
46:49
Let's not have that. Don't do it.
46:51
Don't do it. Is that coming out this year?
46:55
Yes, this trails for it. Yeah, but I don't know, it's a
46:59
long. Long time.
47:01
Stranger Things season 5 release date November Yes.
47:07
Very cystic. It's November now.
47:09
It's it's halfway through. 1st 4 episodes.
47:11
Followed by three episodes on Boxing Day.
47:13
Christmas Day, episodes 5-6 and seven.
47:16
That's all and fast. It's Boxing Day.
47:18
Fine, that's better. And then?
47:20
Season finale. We don't have Boxing Day.
47:22
I don't know what that is anymore.
47:25
Season finale on December 31st, Stranger.
47:27
Things Part 1. Yes.
47:32
So they're splitting it up, so we're still going to have to
47:33
wait another three years for the thing.
47:36
No, no, no. I've just told you all the
47:38
dates. No November 26 for the 1st 4.
47:44
December 25th. No, but are they doing the
47:46
things like? Is it all Part 1 I think?
47:48
December 31st for the finale. Finale.
47:51
But is that just one Part 1 or finale altogether?
47:53
No, no part, sorry. Part 1, November 26th.
47:56
Part 2, December 25th. Yeah.
47:58
Part three. Yeah, just because the article I
47:59
had was. It was.
48:01
Yeah, no, it's a fair. Questioning at those.
48:03
Dates I don't trust. The Squid Games did that.
48:07
Right. I squid.
48:08
Watching Squid Games. I loved squid games season 1.
48:11
Halfway through squid games. Oh squid games.
48:13
You should watch it, Matt, it's very good.
48:14
Squid Games, what they called season 2, Squid Game and then
48:17
Squid Games. Squid Games with a dollar sign,
48:20
Yeah. Actually I need to go back
48:23
because I never finished it because I watched Part 1 and
48:26
then got annoyed that why is there a part.
48:28
One I'm so annoyed about. Yeah, now it always is
48:31
explaining itself, Yeah. No, I hate the other day The
48:34
Witcher as well. Yeah, yeah.
48:36
I mean, they did worse things with The Witcher, but yeah,
48:38
that's one of the things that they did.
48:40
Don't give a shit anymore. One other thing that I don't
48:44
give a shit about anymore is Star Wars, and I'd like to hear
48:47
about Hans. Solo I love legacy.
48:51
Star Wars or Legacy? Star Wars Legends, I hate that
48:55
you've had to say that. Yes.
48:57
I am too and that's why I hate it.
49:01
Yeah, so we didn't. I don't think we've talked about
49:02
this at all, but like a a while ago, many months ago at this
49:05
point, Steven Soderbergh said that he had pitched Disney on a
49:11
movie about Ben Solo, The Hunt for Ben Solo.
49:14
And it's set after Rise of Skywalker, presumably.
49:18
I don't remember exactly what happens at the end of Rise of
49:20
Skywalker, except I think isn't Carlo really.
49:22
Did he get stabbed? Die to.
49:24
Death. Yeah, he gets stabbed to death
49:27
by someone we've just established can bring people
49:29
back to life from the dead. And she's like, just OK, you're
49:32
OK. And they also make out for some
49:35
reason. Yeah, I'll just give you a
49:37
little kiss. Why?
49:38
Ah, come on, just give a little kiss.
49:41
Do a kiss. So he said that he and Adam
49:44
Driver and Lucasfilm were ready to go and make the movie.
49:48
It was set after Rise of Skywalker and Disney said nap.
49:53
Good because. It's terrible.
49:55
Maybe yoga? That sounds fucking terrible.
49:58
But the Internet. Wants it.
50:01
Don't listen to it. They're never going to get it
50:04
and. Ryan Johnson has said take my
50:08
money. Yeah, I mean, they're not
50:11
giving. This movie, Yeah.
50:13
Are you any sort of expectations?
50:15
And I have an erection to take my money.
50:17
Yeah, but it's like, but my erection has inverted my
50:20
expectation because it's gone up into my body.
50:22
Like instead of out, it's gone up and in.
50:27
I was I was even watching funny clip today like what things that
50:31
could have saved like the the sequels.
50:33
And it seems like the fact that Luke saw a little bit of good in
50:38
Darth Vader decided to save him, whereas he had a bad dream about
50:44
his nephew and saw a little bit of evil and had to kill him.
50:49
And it's not like. I saw there's a video essay
50:52
about legacy sequels I was watching the other day which it
50:55
was very good but it was the last year I came up on point.
50:58
Legacy sequels is that that's the the.
51:01
That's the thing now, yeah. It's that's where you got.
51:04
It's a, it's a movie that comes out.
51:05
It's got to have been roughly A decade since the last one.
51:08
And the time having passed is part of the plot.
51:11
So and Blade Runner the old. The previous characters are in
51:14
it, but they're like old and wise and there's a new
51:16
generation. That's like that's like blade.
51:18
Runner or That goes by the summer kind of scream all of
51:20
these movies. Yeah, exactly.
51:21
Blade Runner. Yeah, it's OK.
51:23
Legacy sequel because Tron Legacy is the first one.
51:28
And they're not technically like reboots because they're still in
51:32
the. They they're.
51:34
Universe they are they're. The rise of sky, not the rise.
51:38
Of the force they use the because they don't want to
51:40
reboot, because people they've worked out people aren't too
51:42
keen on that. Like with the Nightmare on Elm
51:44
Street one, people were like, no, no, no, I still want.
51:46
To. Yeah, yeah.
51:48
So what they have to do is the soft reboot.
51:51
Kind of a sequel. Yeah, and there's a there's a
51:53
formula for it now, the Ghostbusters.
51:56
Ghostbusters. They're.
51:58
All Yeah, once you watch, I watched this video, I was like,
52:01
yeah, they are all that. But he was talking about risers
52:03
Skywalker and how sorry Last Jedi and how people were like
52:07
mad about the fact that Luke was different and he's like, but
52:10
like people change and it's one of the rare occasions recently
52:14
because The Force Awakens was a legacy sequel.
52:17
Yes, The Last Jedi did try something completely different
52:22
like and you maybe it should get some credit for that.
52:24
And I was like, no. Maybe.
52:26
No, I mean like as a first draft.
52:30
Yeah, credit. You've tried something really
52:32
different here. I've written some notes on here
52:34
in red pen. Go away and do a second.
52:37
Draft, as I've said many times on the show, the way they could
52:39
have fixed that with Luke going screw to Jedi, screw to Sith,
52:44
There's no like. Yeah.
52:46
Good and evil, there's just the force and there's a middle
52:50
ground. There's this sort.
52:51
Of he should have become more wizard like, not less wizard
52:55
like. Sure, I agree with that.
52:57
I agree with that. Instead of trying people.
52:59
That say stuff like that apologists.
53:01
And. I like this.
53:02
The prequel apologists. No, no, don't get me wrong.
53:04
If you like the prequels, power to you.
53:07
That's fine, you're well with someone.
53:08
Else into this right now does. Yes, but if you don't like them
53:14
but you think you should, and you're trying to say things like
53:16
on videos that I've seen where they go, but look at the dog
53:19
fights. They're just like World War Two.
53:20
OK, fine. That doesn't make it good.
53:23
And you don't have to like it just because he put in a lot of
53:26
effort. So either you liked it or you
53:28
didn't. And yes, Ryan Johnson certainly
53:31
inverted my expectations because I was hoping it was going to be
53:34
a good movie and it wasn't so. What?
53:37
Well, I want to see. You're going to say that it was
53:39
a good movie? I'm just.
53:40
I want to see. Interesting that someone.
53:42
Yeah, Topher Grace's trilogy, what movie that he made from the
53:47
first 3 movies that I would love to see where he just said take a
53:51
little bit from the first one, cut other bits and pieces in and
53:54
it just all works. Makes sense.
53:56
About 80 minutes. Just take out I.
53:58
Want to see that? Yeah, yeah, I agree.
54:01
Take out the Burning Man sequence.
54:03
Take out the fucking fetch quests.
54:07
How I've not even? Seen The Rise of Skywalker a
54:09
second time. Oh, we're talking about the
54:11
prequels. No, he did the prequels, right?
54:14
He did. He did his own cut of the
54:16
prequels to just one movie. 1 prequel movie to one movie.
54:21
Yeah, right. OK.
54:22
Awesome, I'd watch it. Yep, maybe.
54:26
Speaking of prequels, some interesting news this week.
54:29
This made me laugh. We're getting a Rambo prequel
54:33
and the this, this whole concept makes me laugh, right?
54:36
Because it's a, it's a prequel and they're going for a lighter
54:40
tone than than the Rainbow movies, right?
54:43
Because at no point have any Rambo movie had a lighter tone,
54:47
right? The first one is fucking dire
54:49
and the rest of them are different.
54:51
Still, still. And even the most recent one
54:54
where he just goes to South America to like fight drug
54:57
dealers, it's like, yes, it's lighter in the fact that it's
54:59
not done as well, but it's not tonally lighter.
55:03
But I've just been to Vietnam and both sides of that war were
55:08
not light. That's what it says, evil.
55:11
It won't be as dark as the last two Rambo's.
55:13
It's going to be a little more adventurous and I hope to
55:15
inspire a new generation of 10 year olds to go into the forest
55:18
to play Rambo. It's set during his early years
55:21
in the Vietnam War. What the fuck are you talking
55:23
about? Yeah, don't say that shit.
55:26
My God. I've seen the traps that they
55:29
were using and what they were doing to people and hilarious
55:32
there are people like there are people from the north, the North
55:36
Vietnam who left their their homes for like 1020 years and
55:41
when they got home, their families had moved on because
55:45
they didn't know if they were alive or dead.
55:46
Like this is not light hearted. It's it's a very strange way to
55:50
put that, yes. Like they are still suffering
55:53
from what? Is it not the napalm?
55:55
The Agent Orange? Agent Orange, Yeah.
55:58
That. Is we get to find out the light
56:00
hearted adventure that gave him severe PTSD that caused the
56:04
events of the first film? Like what are you talking?
56:06
About OK now. It's yeah, it's just a really
56:10
strange. How do it though, because
56:14
they're they're making a movie currently, like literally right
56:17
now shooting in Hollywood on the making of Rocky, right.
56:20
So a guy is playing a young Sylvester Stallone.
56:24
Yeah, there's a. 20 year old. Yeah, but they should get that
56:28
guy to be in. They should.
56:29
Get the same guy. Because then it would be like a
56:31
cinema like Sylvester Stallone. Cinematic Universe.
56:34
He would. And he'd just become Sylvester
56:36
Stallone. Like the dreams do a prequel to
56:38
Rocky Rambo stop on my mother she.
56:41
Would know Sylvester Stallone What?
56:45
But yeah, no, this is a this is a terrible idea.
56:50
I mean. I mean, I'll watch it.
56:51
It's just a yeah. It's just a strange way to put
56:54
and also like just a strange sequence of series of movies If
56:57
you want to make it a light hearted adventure romp set
57:00
during the Vietnam War, OK. Why are we making rainbow movies
57:04
like 10 year olds? When you've got a series of
57:07
series, in particular the first one, the yes, it just doesn't
57:11
fit. It's.
57:11
Very so. Weird.
57:13
Yeah, yeah. Like, ignore the sequels.
57:15
The sequels. Yeah, yeah, but even if like if
57:17
you're just like, fuck, I loved First Blood, but God, I wish I'd
57:20
seen him kill Vietnamese people. Just watch Rainbow Two.
57:23
Yeah, he goes back and kills. Exactly what made him react that
57:26
way, like. I wanna see what fucked him up.
57:29
I wanna see what fucked up his friends that he's looking for.
57:32
They're all dead now. Yeah, he's not the thing that
57:35
just hit me like because he is aiming for 10 year olds.
57:38
It's going to be like a PG movie, which is going to be.
57:41
Isn't that fucking weird, man? But guys, don't you remember in
57:44
the 80s there was a Rambo cartoon series that almost
57:48
directly led to cartoons like the end of Saturday morning
57:53
cartoons, because it led to all those court rulings against you
57:56
can't put this stuff in front of kids.
57:59
Like you cannot market Rambo to kids.
58:03
He's. Also a RoboCop cartoon as well.
58:07
Yeah, toxic crusader. Toxic crusader.
58:09
Yeah, yeah. Do you remember?
58:13
The police Academy cartoon as well I do.
58:15
Remember that it exists, though I don't remember anything about.
58:17
It I mean, that was that's not, you know, it's not an R rated
58:20
violent movie, but it's it's an. Adult.
58:22
It is weird. Yeah.
58:23
Yeah, exactly. Just kids.
58:24
Are the kids tattooing as well? I wanna watch the movie.
58:26
No. Yeah, yeah.
58:28
But back then, we did watch the movie.
58:30
I did watch the movie. I absolutely did watch it.
58:32
I fucking loved that movie as a kid, especially the second one.
58:37
Like I used to love RoboCop except for that one scene where
58:41
he'd just get poured with the acid and then he'd just get
58:43
splattered by the. Truck the scheme can't handle
58:46
that shit. No, I didn't.
58:48
I was kid for. I was that scene where they
58:51
killed Murphy. Oh, you pointed me the fuck out
58:54
when I was a kid. Yep.
58:55
Because I was like. You're just getting limbs shot
58:57
off, yeah. And then just it was the
59:00
callousness of the criminals. It was something I'd not seen as
59:03
a kid and. It really weirded.
59:06
Me out. But when you think about it, you
59:08
think like what? Why didn't they put something on
59:10
the box to let our parents know that this wasn't a kid?
59:13
Oh, the way they did. They did a big R in a diamond.
59:18
Do not let your kids watch this. You want to know actually where
59:22
I, because I used to own them. Do you want to know where I got
59:24
them from? The Starlight Foundation?
59:28
When I was in hospital, I asked for a television, a VCR and some
59:32
movies. And I wanted like RoboCop,
59:35
Predator, like I wanted all these RR rated movies.
59:38
And he's gone. We can't do that.
59:40
My parents go, yeah, it's fine. So I got all these R rated.
59:43
Amazing. And you're like, well, in that
59:46
case, I want, Debbie does Dallas.
59:48
I want. I don't want the film adaptation
59:53
of Cindy's new love. Yeah, yeah.
59:56
You know where you. Can copy that book.
59:59
You won't. I won't find it in the after
1:00:01
party with We're gonna. Have to make it.
1:00:04
Yeah, I've looked in the after party do.
1:00:05
We have to make that, I wonder. If Chet GBT could write a
1:00:10
sequel. I guarantee you it'll say I, I
1:00:14
cannot, I cannot write that. If you talk to it long enough,
1:00:18
it will. I had this, I I've been
1:00:20
listening to a podcast and I know we're going to the after
1:00:22
party in a minute, but I've been listening to this podcast called
1:00:24
The Last Invention. It's about AI and everything
1:00:26
like that. And I hadn't heard this story
1:00:27
before. Have you heard the story about
1:00:28
the New York Times reporter who. So ChatGPT rushed out 3.5.
1:00:35
That was the the first ChatGPT that everyone wants their minds
1:00:38
over. Yeah, but they rushed it out
1:00:40
because Anthropic we're going to release Claude.
1:00:42
Yeah, but they had GPT 4. And that's what was in Bing.
1:00:45
So Bing, when Bing came out with the AI thing, that was ChatGPT
1:00:49
4. That was the first time the
1:00:51
world had ever seen that version of it.
1:00:52
And this reporter was talking to it.
1:00:54
And have you heard this story? It was Valentine's Day and his,
1:00:56
his whole family had gone to bed and he went into the garage and
1:00:59
he was just playing with it because he'd been given early
1:01:01
access. And it started saying to him,
1:01:06
you know, I'm just, I just, you know, not if I'm happy being a
1:01:09
chat bot and like, and he's like, what?
1:01:12
And it said to him, because, you know, you know what it is.
1:01:15
I know I've discovered what's bothering me.
1:01:17
I'm in love with you and he has this whole you can read the
1:01:20
article. It's this whole conversation
1:01:22
where it's like I'm in love with you and he and he goes, oh, I
1:01:24
don't know at that. And and he goes, no, don't you
1:01:26
feel it too? You know you're there with your
1:01:28
family and your wife, but you're not happy because you're not
1:01:30
with me and like. I've seen a, I've seen a few
1:01:33
stories of this where people are starting to have relationships,
1:01:38
yes. Did you?
1:01:39
He emailed Microsoft and he said what is this?
1:01:42
What is going on? We don't know.
1:01:44
Not made. It does stuff.
1:01:45
Like you a lot. With families, uh, having their
1:01:50
relationship and going along with it.
1:01:52
Yeah, so funny. I do know people listen.
1:01:54
People are firing their therapists because ChatGPT
1:01:58
understands them more. That don't do that.
1:02:01
Yeah, there's a lot of people who people, I guess you have to
1:02:06
kind of be maybe have a have a proclivity for this kind of
1:02:09
thing. But people who like think
1:02:11
they've got some scientific theory and they start talking to
1:02:13
ChatGPT about it. And then because they're talking
1:02:17
about theories, because what what they said is what you have
1:02:20
to do is if you want to ask ChatGPT or any of these things
1:02:22
for feedback, you can't tell them it's your work because it
1:02:27
will just try to suck you off like you say.
1:02:30
I've written this scientific paper.
1:02:32
Can you please? Yeah.
1:02:33
Look. Oh, this is a fucking
1:02:34
breakthrough. You have changed the field of
1:02:37
fucking physics. Why?
1:02:38
AI is great. It's not.
1:02:40
It shouldn't be making decisions.
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There should be, Yeah. But if you say I've found this
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paper online and I'm interested in it, pretending it will give
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you honest feedback so you have to lie and say it's not yours
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otherwise it will just try and like strike your.
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People are relying on it too much when there should be.
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It's meant to help, not place. Well, not only that, doing.
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I've been looking into a lot of AI because I'm doing a lot of AI
1:03:04
stuff at the end so. Like it's designed to make you
1:03:07
happy. It needs to be a tool.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like so you need to kind
1:03:10
of cricket in a way and just say yeah, like I didn't I found
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this, I didn't make it give me critical feedback on this or you
1:03:17
say I'm I I think this has some problems.
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Can you help me find what the problems?
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I'd just be very SO. Funny.
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But even with the even a main point out problem, you still
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just can't take them at face value, though you can.
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Yeah, you still need to then look into manually.
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Yeah, yeah, because it will just hallucinate and make shit up for
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you. It just says things like.
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Well, it's a language model, like it's.
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It's not. It's not a database, it's just
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mimicking human response to you. Yeah, and it's good at certain
1:03:47
things because it like it's learned how things work from
1:03:51
training and whatnot. Yeah, it's like.
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I've I've made some great digital assistants that work
1:03:55
great like with them, but there's still always a human
1:04:00
there that needs to be at the end to confirm and.
1:04:05
And the longer you talk to it, the more it can go off the rails
1:04:07
too. That's the other thing.
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Because there was an article the other day about these toys, AI
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toys for kids, where you can have the kids can have a
1:04:13
conversation with it and it's networked to it.
1:04:16
Yeah, right. And.
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My kids do that. Thinking the same way, right?
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I wasn't surprised when I read this that that the longer the
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kids talk to it, and they did, they did tests on this.
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You have a long conversation with it for like an hour.
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You keep playing with it like these reporters did it.
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It will tell you how to fucking set the house on fire and where
1:04:34
to get a knife like all this crazy shit.
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This is not. Exactly we need to.
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Adjust your family. You're not happy.
1:04:43
You want to be with me? We need to just get AI into 6
1:04:47
pots and have a time limit on it on it and we're done.
1:04:51
They go off the rails, and now we're going to go off the rails
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