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What Kellen Moore Needs To Improve On For Year 2 · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 1: Drew Jordan said, was Burrow twenty four? No, Joe Burrow
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  Speaker 1: was not twenty four at LSU. He was a fifth
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  Speaker 1: year player by the time he was he was playing
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  Speaker 1: at LSU. But no, Joe Burrow was not twenty four
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  Speaker 1: by the time he finished. Joe is hang, I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you right now, Joe, Joe's twenty nine right now. So
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  Speaker 1: he was born December of ninety six, so in he
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  Speaker 1: would have been twenty three, if I'm not mistaken, by
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  Speaker 1: the time it had been twenty three whenever they won
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  Speaker 1: the national championship. So Joe would have been within that
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  Speaker 1: five at five year window, which is what it's designed
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  Speaker 1: to do. You get your you know, the new five
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  Speaker 1: to play five. Your your clock begins upon enrolling. So
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  Speaker 1: if you're eighteen, when you graduate high school and immediately
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  Speaker 1: enroll in college, your clock begins then if or when
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  Speaker 1: you turn nineteen. So as Zach was saying, some your
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  Speaker 1: parents you may hold your children back. Well, even if
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  Speaker 1: you hold your children back and they're nineteen as a
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  Speaker 1: senior in high school, well their their clock begins. Their
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  Speaker 1: collegiate clock, the five to Play five begins at nineteen,
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  Speaker 1: so they may not end up playing five years, because
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  Speaker 1: their first year could of their five to play five
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  Speaker 1: may only end up getting four. So that isn't a
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  Speaker 1: really interesting perspective Zach brought up there that I hadn't considered.
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  Speaker 1: the Saints have begun their their six week off season
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  Speaker 1: with the off season work now being done, and I
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  Speaker 1: use that term lose. With the offseason work, the OTA,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the rookie minicamp, the OTAs, the mandatory mini
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  Speaker 1: camp all being done. Now, you got about six weeks
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  Speaker 1: until training camp and training camp starts. As we know,
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  Speaker 1: the Saints will convene on July twenty seventh. We found
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  Speaker 1: that out earlier this week is the NFL announced the
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  Speaker 1: start of training camp dates for all thirty two teams.
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  Speaker 1: So you have until July twenty seventh. These guys are
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  Speaker 1: going to go and work out and take vacation and
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  Speaker 1: get ready for camp and hopefully be ready to roll
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  Speaker 1: whenever whenever they start up on July twenty seventh. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's also a time, you know, for I think Kellen
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  Speaker 1: Moore and this staff to continue to lock in on
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  Speaker 1: processes for his second year as an NFL head coach.
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  Speaker 1: And I found this interesting because Matthew Stafford, of course
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  Speaker 1: is the NFL's reigning MVP, was a guest on Chris
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  Speaker 1: Long's show A green Light with Chris Longs's YouTube shows podcast,
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  Speaker 1: and they taught the podcast. The full episode lasted just
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  Speaker 1: under an hour, but when they got about forty minutes
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  Speaker 1: into the show, it was interesting because Chris Long brought
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  Speaker 1: up a couple of Matthew Stafford's backup quarterbacks in Detroit,
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  Speaker 1: and there was a point where both Dan Orlovsky, who's
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  Speaker 1: now of course an analyst on ESPN, and Kellen Moore,
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  Speaker 1: who's the Saints head coach, were Stafford's backups. So Stafford
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  Speaker 1: came into the NFL. He was undrafted out of Boise
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  Speaker 1: in the twenty twelve draft and was signed as a
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  Speaker 1: UDFA by Detroit, and he spent three seasons twelve, thirteen,
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  Speaker 1: and fourteen as a backup in Detroit. Orlowsky was there
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  Speaker 1: at that time as well, and there was some thought
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  Speaker 1: that maybe Kellen Moore would beat out Dan Orlovsky, but
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  Speaker 1: the Lions maintained or retained Rolowski as the primary backup
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  Speaker 1: that was under Jim Caldwell there. And then after those
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  Speaker 1: three seasons, Moore was cut in training camp in twenty fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: Then he signed with the Cowboys and ultimately spent three
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  Speaker 1: years as a backup in Dallas. So Kellen Moore's NFL
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  Speaker 1: career was six seasons with Detroit and then with Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: And it was interesting though because as a young player
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  Speaker 1: right out of college where he left Boise State is
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  Speaker 1: the winningest quarterback in the history of college football. More
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  Speaker 1: goes and there's a veteran Matthew Stafford. Well, as veteran
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  Speaker 1: Stafford was was was a few I guess he was
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  Speaker 1: a young veteran into his NFL career at that point,
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  Speaker 1: and that's when Stafford and Kellen Moore cross paths. And
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  Speaker 1: so Stafford had this to say about Kellen Moore on
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  Speaker 1: the green Light Podcast with Chris Long and Kellen.
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  Speaker 2: The reason why that's not surprising is like you saw
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  Speaker 2: that early. You know, like you could see him and man,
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  Speaker 2: this guy he had a knack for the game, understanding
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  Speaker 2: for play calling and doing all those kind of things
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  Speaker 2: even as a player. So you know, it's it's cool
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  Speaker 2: to see both those guys do their thing and be
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  Speaker 2: so successful what they do, and and looks like they're
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  Speaker 2: both having a ton of fun doing it.
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  Speaker 1: I guess the the giant difference between a guy like
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  Speaker 1: Stafford and then Orlofsky and and Moore isn't the understanding
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  Speaker 1: of the game, the cerebral part processing. It's just it's
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  Speaker 1: the physical part of the game. I mean, Matthew Stafford's
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  Speaker 1: size and armstrength is what made him the number one
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  Speaker 1: pick overall. Kellen, Moore and Dan Arlovski just clearly didn't
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  Speaker 1: have that, which is why neither of them were able
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  Speaker 1: to play long. It is interesting, though, when you look
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  Speaker 1: at current NFL head coaches that you know were or
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. A Jim Harbaugh played fourteen NFL
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  Speaker 1: seasons and has become a great coach, But you don't
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  Speaker 1: not being a quarterback doesn't isn't necessarily a prerequisite to
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  Speaker 1: being a great head coach. Sean Pate, of course, was
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback who's one of the scabs during the strike season.
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  Speaker 1: It played lower level football, but sometimes just being a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback helps. I mean Gary Kubiak, Doug Peterson, Jason Garrett,
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  Speaker 1: who's not a head coach in the NFL anymore but
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  Speaker 1: has been, guys like Sam Wise, June Jones, Jim Zorn.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can go through the list. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of guys who were NFL quarterbacks, who were quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: who have become who became really good head coaches. I'm
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  Speaker 1: really fascinated to see how this continues to materialize for
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  Speaker 1: Kellen Moore in year two in the NFL, because the
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  Speaker 1: thing that stands out most to me, and I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you if I had one, I don't even know that
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  Speaker 1: I would say reservation or a negative about it. It
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  Speaker 1: was just a question really with Kellen Moore was his age.
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  Speaker 1: And that's not always a detriment. I mean, Sean McVay
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  Speaker 1: got an NFL head coaching job in his early thirties
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  Speaker 1: and won a Super Bowl, and he's stuck and has
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  Speaker 1: been one of the best coaches in the league. But
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  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin got a head coaching job at thirty two
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  Speaker 1: and it blew up in his face. So not every
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  Speaker 1: young head coach is ready. Now, those are maybe two
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  Speaker 1: polar opposite examples, but it's an illustration of what can happen.
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  Speaker 1: So Kellen Moore got the Saints head coaching job at
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  Speaker 1: thirty six years old. Kellen's thirty seven. Now he'll be
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  Speaker 1: thirty eight in July July fifth. But you're talking about
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  Speaker 1: a guy who, in his first season as an NFL
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  Speaker 1: head coach was the same age as Cam Jordan. And
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  Speaker 1: to Mario Davis, I mean literally had dudes on his
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  Speaker 1: team were the same age of him as he was.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing, I tell you, the thing that stood
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  Speaker 1: out is when we were at Super Bowl Radio Row
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  Speaker 1: this past February and to Mario sat with us on
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  Speaker 1: Radio Row and did an interview and we had this
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  Speaker 1: conversation and if to Mario acknowledged it was a thing
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  Speaker 1: that maybe he considered initially. But the thing that sort
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  Speaker 1: of won to Mario in the locker room over with
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  Speaker 1: Kellen Moore is that his demeanor never changed no matter
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  Speaker 1: if they were on a seven game losing streak or
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  Speaker 1: when they won four or five late. No matter what,
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  Speaker 1: Kellen was the same guy. I'm relating what to Mario
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  Speaker 1: said to us there at Radio Row, and that was
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  Speaker 1: something that earned a lot of respect to the locker
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  Speaker 1: room that there wasn't there weren't emotional swings, and there
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a an overreaction to anything good or bad. It
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  Speaker 1: was very even keel and that allowed Kellen to earn
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  Speaker 1: the respect of the guys in the locker room. So
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  Speaker 1: now that he's been established as a head coach for
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  Speaker 1: a year, how does he build upon that in year two?
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  Speaker 1: You know? And I think some of it too is
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  Speaker 1: just getting his roster like he wants it, like a
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  Speaker 1: great example. We've obviously seen some veterans leave, right I
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  Speaker 1: mean Tyron Matthews no longer on the team. We just
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  Speaker 1: mentioned to Mario Davis. We'll see what happens with Alvin Kamara.
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  Speaker 1: I think we all universally agree Kamara is not going
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  Speaker 1: to play this year under his contract. Under the current contract,
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  Speaker 1: He's either going to take a pay cut or he'll
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  Speaker 1: be cut. You know, We'll see how that goes. Cam Jordan,
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  Speaker 1: we know now is coming back, but he sell us
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  Speaker 1: to make the team, you know, so, but you Taysom Hill,
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  Speaker 1: I think maybe is a really pretty crystal clear example
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  Speaker 1: of having something I don't want to say forced upon you,
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  Speaker 1: but not that you inherit something like. One of the
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  Speaker 1: things I've been asked a lot with obviously Taysom not
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  Speaker 1: being back in New Orleans is well, you know who's
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  Speaker 1: gonna replace Taysom Who's gonna be the Taysom Hill role?
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  Speaker 1: Literally nobody, literally nobody. I mean, Taysom Hill has done
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  Speaker 1: stuff in the NFL that we haven't seen since Frank
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  Speaker 1: Gifford in the nineteen fifties. As far as his versatility,
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  Speaker 1: there's no other team in the league that has a
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  Speaker 1: player like him, that features a player like that, because
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  Speaker 1: Number one, it's just it's rare to find a guy
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  Speaker 1: with that skill set and willingness to do all those
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  Speaker 1: different things, and then a coach that knows how to
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  Speaker 1: utilize Remember that was a Sean Payton brainchild with Pete Carmichael.
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  Speaker 1: So Peyton and Carmichael are gone. Will Taysom was still
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  Speaker 1: under contract and he was coming off a knee injury.
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  Speaker 1: Will Kellen had this weapon. It felt like he had
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  Speaker 1: to use him in that capacity, but he was inheriting
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  Speaker 1: somebody else's vision, will you no longer have that on
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  Speaker 1: the roster. So all that to say is you're going
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  Speaker 1: to replace Taysom on the roster. As great a team
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  Speaker 1: guys he was and will love Taysom, but you're replacing
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  Speaker 1: that guy on the roster with someone that more fits
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  Speaker 1: what Kellen wants to do. So you're gonna see I
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  Speaker 1: think you're one of your two. Even more of his
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  Speaker 1: vision start to crystallize, which will be pretty cool to see.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a pretty pretty powerful co sign there by
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  Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford on Chris Laun's podcast talking about Kellen Moore.
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