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How Resilience Builds Hope · The World Knowledge

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  Speaker 1: Well, good evening, listeners. Thank you again, as always. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so grateful for all you guys who have built this
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  Speaker 1: podcast up, who listen, who watch. And I've just been,
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  Speaker 1: you know, falling across so many different stories this year,
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  Speaker 1: and they're so different. But I came across Dawn Wilcox,
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  Speaker 1: who's on the screen, and then for those listening, you'll
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  Speaker 1: hear her voice.
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  Speaker 2: Anyone within the sound of my voice... that person needs
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  Speaker 2: to be told that they need professional safety planning. I
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  Speaker 2: can't do safety planning. I mean, sometimes people reach out
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  Speaker 2: to me and I'll find out where they live and
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  Speaker 2: try to find a local domestic violence organization. But that
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  Speaker 2: is a very particular skill set that will assess their
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  Speaker 2: level of risk and will help them to plan to
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  Speaker 2: leave safely. when they're ready to. And the thing is,
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  Speaker 2: is from the outside, you never know what's going on
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  Speaker 2: and what that woman's experiencing and why she's returning. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: she may have been told that if you don't come back,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to kill you, our kids, and myself. She
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  Speaker 2: may have been told, I'll divorce you, I'll take the kids,
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  Speaker 2: and you'll never see them again. So you from the outside,
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  Speaker 2: what looks like weakness or, you know, wanting to go
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  Speaker 2: back to an abusive, abusive situation may not be what
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  Speaker 2: it appears to be.
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  Speaker 1: Hmm. I do want to ask just to kind of
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  Speaker 1: finish us out because this is, I mean, it's a
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  Speaker 1: heavy episode and I don't, I think there's no way
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  Speaker 1: you can help that. You know, that's just that there
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  Speaker 1: are some things where I wish I could end the
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  Speaker 1: episode and tie it up in a bow and be like, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: But there are really some things there aren't and you
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  Speaker 1: just have to sit with that. And it's really difficult.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that this is one of those topics,
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  Speaker 1: but I wanted to ask to finish it out because
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  Speaker 1: we've been talking more in generalizations here.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a.
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  Speaker 1: Story that's been told to you or one of the
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  Speaker 1: women that has been sent to you or that you
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  Speaker 1: found out about whose story really impacted you just for
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  Speaker 1: any reason? Maybe it was the way she was killed.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it was her story, her name. That you would be.
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  Speaker 2: Willing to share? Yeah. I mean, there's several. You know,
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  Speaker 2: one I can think about was a woman who did
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  Speaker 2: get a protective order. She did everything right. She left.
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  Speaker 2: You know, she went to the police for help. He
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  Speaker 2: killed her anyway. And when they... found her, she had
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  Speaker 2: her protective order folded up in her, in the pocket
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  Speaker 2: of her jeans, like on her body, which is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just heartbreaking to, you know, to see women do everything
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  Speaker 2: we require of them to try to stay safe. There
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  Speaker 2: is a case that is covered in that article about Wendy,
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  Speaker 2: who was, an African-American woman who was killed by her husband.
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  Speaker 2: It was an absolutely brutal, horrible murder. The police who
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  Speaker 2: went in and found her body needed counseling. And just
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  Speaker 2: the way, how dehumanizing he was and how cruel, that
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  Speaker 2: really haunted me. That case was, sat with me. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't cry. I cried over that case. And it
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  Speaker 2: was very difficult to find information about her because her
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  Speaker 2: name was that Wendy was what she went by. And
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  Speaker 2: her last name was Timmons Moore. But once I discovered
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  Speaker 2: that that was her name and a journalist who interviewed
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  Speaker 2: me enabled me to be able to talk to her sister.
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  Speaker 2: And that was just wonderful to be able to talk
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  Speaker 2: to someone who loved her and to be left with,
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  Speaker 2: you know, not just this horrible way that she died,
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  Speaker 2: but the wonderful way that Wendy lived and things.
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  Speaker 3: About her that, you know, she loved romance novels and,
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  Speaker 3: you know, which you never would have guessed because she
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  Speaker 3: kind of looked like she was, you know, like kind
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  Speaker 3: of tough, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, just being able to talk to her
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  Speaker 2: sister about her and what she was like was very
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  Speaker 2: healing to me. Because, you know, doing this work is,
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  Speaker 2: I'm very good at compartmentalizing, and I think being a
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  Speaker 2: nurse helps, but it is very emotionally fraught. Very hard.
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  Speaker 2: You know, and I would say the good part of
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  Speaker 2: this is, seeing these amazing families who take the worst
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  Speaker 2: thing that ever happened in their lives and move forward
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  Speaker 2: and try to help other women. Um, there's a mom
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  Speaker 2: of a murder victim who went on to create a
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  Speaker 2: nonprofit and helps victims of sexual assault. It's called Beloved. Um,
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  Speaker 2: and they make these bundles of, um, personal hygiene items
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  Speaker 2: and clothing and everything you would need after you have
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  Speaker 2: a sexual assault kit examination done. They also need to
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  Speaker 2: install what's called soft interview rooms and police station and
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  Speaker 2: college campuses so that when a victim of sexual assault
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  Speaker 2: is brought in to be interviewed, they're not in a
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  Speaker 2: sterile interrogation room. They're in a comforting space. So You know,
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  Speaker 2: when I think about people like Polly Class's dad, Mark,
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  Speaker 2: who has done so much