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PREGNANT MOM, 21, CHASED THRU HOUSE, SLICED OPEN FOR BABY: KILLER'S WHINY RANTS FROM JAIL · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Bombshell. Tonight, a gorgeous, young pregnant mom just twenty one
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  Speaker 1: years old, chased through the house, then sliced open for
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  Speaker 1: her baby. Tonight, the killer's whiny rants from behind jail
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  Speaker 1: house walls. Good evening, I Nancy Grace, this is crime Stories.
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  Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being with us New
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  Speaker 1: Boston normal one. What's emergency?
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  Speaker 2: Daughter, my granddady.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that.
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  Speaker 3: Everywhere near Boston, no one.
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  Speaker 1: What's emergency, ma'am, ma'am daughter, what happened?
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  Speaker 4: Somebody got it her?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 6: Everywhere okay, stay, I'm alone with me.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Oh our grid baby, Oh my god.
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  Speaker 6: Ma'am, can you tell me what happened?
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  Speaker 7: I don't know what happened?
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  Speaker 8: Her husband, girl, the pout, get your work.
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  Speaker 9: Oh my god, my daughter.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, do you know what happened to her?
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  Speaker 10: Ma'am?
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  Speaker 9: Oh my grand day.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know theirs what everywhere in.
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  Speaker 1: Her floor, you are hearing the disturbing, the upsetting, the
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  Speaker 1: graphic nine to one one call upon the discovery of
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  Speaker 1: this beautiful young mom just twenty one years old. This
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  Speaker 1: is as the jury heard it listens.
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  Speaker 5: Is she okay?
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  Speaker 11: Oh my god?
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  Speaker 12: What am I gonna do?
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  Speaker 1: Ma'am? Okay, ma'am, I'm okay.
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  Speaker 12: Who's there?
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  Speaker 2: We see right now?
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  Speaker 13: And I treated my.
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  Speaker 3: Friend Chris okay.
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  Speaker 14: I'm my three old brands by East.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, ma'am Darren, We're all tell you right now. Can
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  Speaker 3: you see what?
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  Speaker 8: Can you tell what happened to her?
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  Speaker 3: I don't can't tell what.
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  Speaker 2: I just didn't they just hurt her?
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  Speaker 1: What did they do?
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  Speaker 11: I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: We can't tell.
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  Speaker 13: There's so much blood.
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  Speaker 1: I am now bringing in two very special guests. Jessica
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  Speaker 1: Brooks this is Reagan Hancock's mother. And Emily Shyri this
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  Speaker 1: is Reagan's sister. Tonight, Reagan's killer whiny rants from behind bars.
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  Speaker 1: But before you hear her whining and complaining, I want
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  Speaker 1: you to hear what happened to Reagan straight out to
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  Speaker 1: Jessica Brooks, this is Reagan's mother. What do you recall,
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  Speaker 1: missus Brooks?
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  Speaker 7: Just the most horror that you could ever imagine. As
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  Speaker 7: I've turned down her road, I knew something was wrong.
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  Speaker 7: And as I stepped out of my vehicle and saw
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  Speaker 7: the streaks of blood, part of me already knew that
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  Speaker 7: something was terribly wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't want to think it.
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  Speaker 7: Of course, because I was telling myself a dog might
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  Speaker 7: have heard its foot, you know, her dog had been out.
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  Speaker 7: And as I got to the door, there was a
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  Speaker 7: bloody fingerprint on the doorknob, and something about me was
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  Speaker 7: able to have enough of sense to know that I
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  Speaker 7: needed to take my shirt and touch the doorknob with
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  Speaker 7: my shirt and not touch it with my own hand.
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  Speaker 7: And as I opened it, I saw the bloody footprint
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  Speaker 7: in her dining room, and I immediately shut the door.
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  Speaker 7: I backed up, and then I thought to myself, you know,
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  Speaker 7: well something has happened. If she's in there.
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  Speaker 3: And she's hurt, I've got to check her. I've got
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  Speaker 3: to get to her. I've got to help her.
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  Speaker 7: So I went back, opened the door again further, and
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  Speaker 7: that's when I saw her body, her hair stained red,
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  Speaker 7: of course, blood everywhere, and it was just it was
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  Speaker 7: the most horrible thing you could imagine, if you could
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  Speaker 7: imagine it.
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  Speaker 3: I immediately walked back out. You know, I knew she
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  Speaker 3: was gone.
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  Speaker 7: And that's what I've told people something about myself. I
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  Speaker 7: don't remember the way I sounded in the nine to
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  Speaker 7: one one call. I don't remember feeling that way or
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  Speaker 7: sounding that way, because in my mind now, you know,
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  Speaker 7: I feel like I knew I was upset and crying,
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  Speaker 7: but I didn't feel like I was screaming, And so
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  Speaker 7: I knew she was gone, and part of me had
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  Speaker 7: enough sense to know that I did not need to
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  Speaker 7: step into there and do any damage to that crime
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  Speaker 7: scene so that they would have a scene that they
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  Speaker 7: could investigate and find the person that did this.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing to me, Missus Brooks, that before you went
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  Speaker 1: into the home, you knew, you knew and sighed something
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  Speaker 1: horrible had happened. To what do you attribute that?
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  Speaker 3: Being a mother?
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  Speaker 7: You know, it's like I've said, a child is a
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  Speaker 7: part of you physically, a part of a mother. You've
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  Speaker 7: carried that child, they grew inside of you. They're physically
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  Speaker 7: always a part of you, and you know your child.
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  Speaker 3: Me and her were very very close.
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  Speaker 7: And I knew when Homer called me, her husband called
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  Speaker 7: me that day, that her not answering and even not
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  Speaker 7: answering me when I tried to call her before I
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  Speaker 7: left my office, I knew that that wasn't right. And
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  Speaker 7: I knew that if she hadn't called work, that that
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  Speaker 7: wasn't Reagan Reagan was very responsible. She would not you know,
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  Speaker 7: not do anything like not show up to work and
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  Speaker 7: not let them know. So and then, like I said,
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  Speaker 7: as I turned down her street, her garage door was open.
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  Speaker 7: And they never left their garage door open, even if
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  Speaker 7: she knew I was coming over or anybody was coming over.
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  Speaker 7: It was closed until I got there, and I would
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  Speaker 7: call and tell her I was there, and she had
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  Speaker 7: opened it for me. So just so many things just
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  Speaker 7: told me that something was terribly wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Miss Brooks. Did you actually see your daughter's body?
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  Speaker 3: I did, yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 7: Thankfully she was facing away from me, so I didn't
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  Speaker 7: see the extent of her injuries. I knew that, like
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  Speaker 7: I said, her hair was blonde. I knew it was red.
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  Speaker 7: It was just stained red. And i'd actually, after everything happened,
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  Speaker 7: you know, it stays in your brain, and I had
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  Speaker 7: to make I drew it out what I saw, just
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  Speaker 7: you know, just a sketch, just to get it out
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  Speaker 7: of my head basically. But yeah, she was facing facing
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  Speaker 7: away from me, kind of on her side more or less.
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  Speaker 7: Her arm was kind of you know, above her head
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  Speaker 7: stretched from what I remember. But yeah, like I said, thankfully,
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  Speaker 7: I didn't see the extent of her injuries. I just
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  Speaker 7: knew blood was everywhere and she was gone.
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  Speaker 1: Miss Brooks. When did you learn what had happened? And
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  Speaker 1: how far along was she in her pregnancy?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am, she was thirty six weeks so she was
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  Speaker 3: due on I.
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  Speaker 7: Believe I remember November eighth, and this was October ninth.
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  Speaker 7: So as far as when we found out what happened,
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  Speaker 7: the officer's new Boston Police Department, Chaff Department, all of
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  Speaker 7: Texas Rangers, they were all, of course unseen and being
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  Speaker 7: wonderful to us, you know, but at the same time,
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  Speaker 7: it was an investigation.
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  Speaker 3: They couldn't tell us everything. We understand that.
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  Speaker 7: However, my husband and you know, everybody was kind of
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  Speaker 7: trying to keep me calm, I guess and whatnot. And
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  Speaker 7: my husband I could hear him on the phone talking
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  Speaker 7: with someone. I later found out it was my brother
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  Speaker 7: in law had called him and was telling him that
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  Speaker 7: there was something on Facebook. And all I could hear
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  Speaker 7: was Marcus saying on Facebook, really and so nobody would
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  Speaker 7: tell me what he was talking about. So I opened Facebook,
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  Speaker 7: you know, and I'm scrolling and this was I found
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  Speaker 7: her around I think ten o'clock, and this was around noon,
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  Speaker 7: I think maybe twelve. I opened Facebook and just I
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  Speaker 7: didn't even scroll maybe once barely scrolled up, and there
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  Speaker 7: was an article from the local newspaper New Boston. Mother murdered,
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  Speaker 7: baby cut from womb and we all just kind of
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  Speaker 7: looked at each other, and I immediately kind of started
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  Speaker 7: walking towards the investigators. They were standing off away from us,
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  Speaker 7: and I was just holding my phone up and I
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  Speaker 7: was I said, is this true?
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  Speaker 3: Is is this? Where is the baby?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 3: Is this true?
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  Speaker 7: And they said we can't. We can't tell you anything
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  Speaker 7: at this point, but they could tell my husband, you know,
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  Speaker 7: before that had happened. I found out that he had
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  Speaker 7: been asking, uh, how is the baby?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, where's the baby? What's going on?
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  Speaker 7: And all they'd say is the baby's gone or the
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  Speaker 7: baby's deceased.
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  Speaker 3: Is all they could tell us. They never told us
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  Speaker 3: that she was taken, so.
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  Speaker 1: You had to learn it on Facebook. And the investigators
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  Speaker 1: are saying, we can't, we can't comment. Somebody commented on
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  Speaker 1: it somewhere and it made its way to the local reporter.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder how that happened, but that's really neither here
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  Speaker 1: nor there, what would the baby have been named?
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  Speaker 7: Braxland Sage, Braxlan Sage Hancock.
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  Speaker 3: They chose that name Homer's.
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  Speaker 7: Her dad's middle name was Lynn, and so it was
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  Speaker 7: Braxln Sage that they had chosen.
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  Speaker 1: I can see up on the fridge all of the
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  Speaker 1: sonogram photos of Braxlen Sage, Emily Shirie joining us. This
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  Speaker 1: is Reagan's sister tonight bombshell whiny rants from the killer
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  Speaker 1: behind bars. If you can even imagine, these crime scene
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  Speaker 1: photos are horrific because it's so upsetting and she's whining
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  Speaker 1: behind bars to Emily Sharri first, to both of you,
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  Speaker 1: I thought I knew it all about grieving when you
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  Speaker 1: lose some one you love firsthand. But I cannot imagine
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  Speaker 1: losing my child, my beloved twins, or the baby. Emily.
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  Speaker 1: You and your family have been through a hell. I
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  Speaker 1: cannot even imagine. What do you remember of that day?
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  Speaker 12: I got home and as we were walking up to
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  Speaker 12: my apartment, Wade was like, your mom is okay? And
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  Speaker 12: I was like, oh my gosh, what's happened? You know
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  Speaker 12: what's happened to my mom? And my aunt met me
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  Speaker 12: outside the door of the apartment and walked me in
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  Speaker 12: and sat me down and she was like, Okay, something's happened.
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  Speaker 3: Reagan has been murdered.
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  Speaker 12: And I just fell to my niece and was screaming
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  Speaker 12: my sister, my sister, I cannot believe it, you know
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  Speaker 12: what happened? And she was like someone broke into her
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  Speaker 12: house and murdered her. And I couldn't. I couldn't comprehend it.
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  Speaker 12: I was like, I've got to get to my mom.
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  Speaker 12: I've got I've got to figure.
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  Speaker 3: Out what's what's happened? Is my niece okay?
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  Speaker 12: Was my My immediate question was is she okay?
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  Speaker 3: And they said she's okay. Uh, she was home, but
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  Speaker 3: she's okay.
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  Speaker 12: And me and my husband, my now husband, got in
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  Speaker 12: the car and drove to New Boston, and on our
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  Speaker 12: way there is when Mom sent me.
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  Speaker 3: A text and said, don't look at Facebook.
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  Speaker 12: And of course when you hear don't look at Facebook,
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  Speaker 12: you look at Facebook. So I looked at Facebook and
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  Speaker 12: I've seen the post about the child was from moved
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  Speaker 12: from her, and I couldn't couldn't wrap my hand or
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  Speaker 12: head around any of it. At that point, I just
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  Speaker 12: kind of zoned out. I had no comprehension of us
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  Speaker 12: even making it to my mom's house.
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  Speaker 3: At that point, I just tried to.
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  Speaker 1: Mute everything straight out. To renowned forensic psychologist Karen Stark,
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  Speaker 1: radio and TV trauma expert, Karen, what is the phenomena
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  Speaker 1: when you I experienced it myself. I still can't remember
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  Speaker 1: huge chunks of time around my fiance's murder. What is
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  Speaker 1: that phenomena? You just heard her sister state that Reagan's
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  Speaker 1: sister she zoned out. She can't remember what happened at
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  Speaker 1: that point.
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  Speaker 11: Whenever you're in a traumatic situation, and by the way,
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  Speaker 11: I'm so sorry I wanted to say that to the family,
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  Speaker 11: but whenever you're in that kind of a traumatic situation,
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  Speaker 11: you go into shock. Most of that happens to most people,
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  Speaker 11: and you're adrenaline is going and everything slows down. It's
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  Speaker 11: a slow motion and it's very hard to be aware
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  Speaker 11: of what's happening. Nothing feels real, it's surreal. You're kind
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  Speaker 11: of on an automatic pilot. So it's self protection. You
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  Speaker 11: just don't remember what was happening at that moment because
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  Speaker 11: something was so horrific and overwhelming.
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  Speaker 1: Back to Reagan's mom joining us tonight, Miss Jessica Brooks
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  Speaker 1: miss Brooks, let me understand another fact in the scenario.
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  Speaker 1: Is it true that Reagan's three year old child was
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  Speaker 1: home when its mother was murdered?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, she was, yes Na.
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  Speaker 1: Does the baby have any recollection of what happened?
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  Speaker 7: We have not asked her, honestly, we've not asked her
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  Speaker 7: what she saw.
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  Speaker 3: We've kind of left that to her.
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  Speaker 7: But there is evidence that she witnessed something, if.
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  Speaker 3: Not all of it. Obviously she heard it, you know
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  Speaker 3: either way.
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  Speaker 7: But yes, ma'am, there's evidence that she saw her mom.
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  Speaker 1: Now, while all this is taking place, while Reagan's body
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  Speaker 1: is being discovered, with her child wandering around the house
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  Speaker 1: calling for mommy, you heard the screams of Reagan's mother
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  Speaker 1: when she discovers her. What a coincidence? A co inkydink
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  Speaker 1: that another name on one call comes in New Boston.
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  Speaker 3: One one, what's your emergency?
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  Speaker 2: I have a Saint Turper behind me and I need.
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  Speaker 3: An ambulance because I started having my baby.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, sail more, I'm gonna get you to out.
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  Speaker 4: Stay on.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be okay.
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  Speaker 1: So one.
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  Speaker 2: John, what's.
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  Speaker 1: The road.
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  Speaker 15: For?
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  Speaker 5: She said she's gone into labor. She is a state
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  Speaker 5: trooper behind her.
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  Speaker 4: What happened?
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  Speaker 15: I'm started having my baby.
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  Speaker 7: I was I started having her.
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  Speaker 2: I could not love Where are they?
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  Speaker 7: Because I was trying?
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  Speaker 1: What a coincidence? Okay? Straight out to Greg Morse, joining
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  Speaker 1: US veteran defense turning out of Palm Beach, founder of
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  Speaker 1: Morse Legal, former West Palm Beach Public Defender's Office, and
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  Speaker 1: author of the book The Untested on Amazon. Greg, you
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  Speaker 1: think a jury doesn't take into account the timing where
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  Speaker 1: this woman, Taylor Parker suddenly has a baby covered in
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  Speaker 1: blood in her car and says she just gave birth,
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  Speaker 1: and right down the street you have Reagan pregnant, once pregnant.
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  Speaker 1: Reagan did all right?
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  Speaker 9: Well, you know, coincidence has happened in life. It doesn't
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  Speaker 9: mean that someone committed a crime because a coincidence happens people.
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  Speaker 9: A lot of children are born all the time in
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  Speaker 9: small communities, in big communities. So that fact alone is
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  Speaker 9: not indicative that Parker, you know, killed Reagan and removed
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  Speaker 9: the baby just on that fact alone, not at all.
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  Speaker 9: It's just a coincidence. She's on her way to family.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you've heard the nie on one call. You know
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  Speaker 1: the timing. So Greg Morris, don't you just hate when
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  Speaker 1: there's Bodykim video. Watch what's wrong?
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  Speaker 2: Man? Not baby.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to get to the hot Belt wispital.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my husband's up there.
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  Speaker 9: Why aren't you going to Same Michael's. Just somewhere.
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  Speaker 16: We're going to Oddbilts where my doctor is.
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  Speaker 12: I need to get up there.
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  Speaker 2: She's not breathing. She's not breathing. Bakery.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, the baby's not breathing.
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  Speaker 10: She's going sill a little bit right now.
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  Speaker 9: Hey, I'm out here with a lady who's just had
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  Speaker 9: a baby.
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  Speaker 15: Uh, the baby is not breathing.
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  Speaker 9: She's on the phone with em as.
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  Speaker 4: She's trying to get the idebell hospital.
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  Speaker 16: But we gotta go to Ida Baal.
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  Speaker 2: That's where I'm going.
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  Speaker 16: I'm not going to Saint Michael's. They last baby.
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  Speaker 13: I'm not going there.
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  Speaker 2: I just need naked.
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  Speaker 1: Bodycam obtained by True Crime Unfiltered. Right there, there is
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  Speaker 1: a big tail to Naomi Channel joining US TV producer
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  Speaker 1: host of The Real podcast has extensively researched fetal abduction,
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  Speaker 1: including this case. Naomi, thank you for being with us tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a big tail. When my children were born prematurely,
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  Speaker 1: it was an emergency. Okay, there is no way in
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  Speaker 1: h double L I would have said, I just need
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  Speaker 1: life net. They can take me. There's no way I
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  Speaker 1: would leave John, David and Lucy behind and save myself
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  Speaker 1: right there, their radar, their tentacles there, Intennashi go.
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  Speaker 5: On straight up, what about it, Naomi, It's unbelievable. I've
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  Speaker 5: never seen anything like this before. She deserves an oscar
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  Speaker 5: for that performance. It is utterly insane. She had no
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  Speaker 5: regard it even while she's doing the CPR. I know
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  Speaker 5: it's blurred out, but even then she is looking with it.
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  Speaker 5: She looks rehearsed. She actually looks very in control. And
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  Speaker 5: for any woman who has just had a baby, that
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  Speaker 5: is not how you are afterwards, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, put Naomi up just one moment. Do you notice
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  Speaker 1: how her hair is still up? Sorry about that control room.
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  Speaker 1: Let me see her again. And she still has her
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  Speaker 1: sunglasses on top of her head. Wow, okay, let's look
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  Speaker 1: at her. Look at her. Her shirt is completely clean,
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  Speaker 1: at least from the waist up. What how is this?
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  Speaker 1: How is this possible? Hey? Naomi? Pick it up right there.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, I mean, the chairs not even moved back.
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  Speaker 5: The window was an open. Shees the door's not open.
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  Speaker 5: This is so scarily rehearsed. This, There is just nothing.
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  Speaker 5: I used to work in anti natal education as well.
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  Speaker 5: Nancy and I have been around women who have given birth,
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  Speaker 5: including myself and any woman and probably any man who
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  Speaker 5: is accompanied a woman who is seeing this. There is
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  Speaker 5: something not right.
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  Speaker 3: From the get Goo.
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  Speaker 1: Naomi channel joining us along with Jessica Brooks and Emily Shiri.
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  Speaker 1: Also with us tonight, a renowned medical examiner, doctor Thomas Coyne,
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  Speaker 1: at joining us out of Tallahassee. He is the District
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  Speaker 1: eight medical examiner, toxicologist, forensic pathologists, neuropathologist. I could go
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  Speaker 1: on and on about Thomas Coin, doctor Coyne. Now this
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  Speaker 1: is anecdotal, but I gave birth at almost thirty one weeks.
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  Speaker 1: The twins were extremely premature. My husband let me off
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  Speaker 1: at the front door so he could go park. I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't make it to go park and walk in. I
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  Speaker 1: walked into the lobby. That was it. I laid down
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  Speaker 1: on the floor under a bench in the lobby so
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  Speaker 1: no one would step on me because I could not
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  Speaker 1: take another step in the floor. Dtor Coin and I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking at this woman. She still got her sunglasses perched
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  Speaker 1: on her head and she's speaking forcefully. I just I'm
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  Speaker 1: not buying it. They should have known immediately something was wrong.
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  Speaker 1: What do you make of it, doctor coin?
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  Speaker 9: Oh, I agree entirely.
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  Speaker 15: I mean, for a person who just gave birth should
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  Speaker 15: not be able to have that amount of energy and
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  Speaker 15: appear that together. And my only thought process is that
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  Speaker 15: the law enforcement officer was looking at the baby and
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  Speaker 15: focusing on the baby rather than the mom at the time,
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  Speaker 15: because the baby was the one who was in need
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  Speaker 15: of CPR and resuscitative efforts, and so perhaps maybe all
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  Speaker 15: the attention went there rather than for the obvious glaring
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  Speaker 15: you know, you know things that we see looking back,
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  Speaker 15: you know, with hindsight and looking back now that we
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  Speaker 15: have time to do so. But yeah, no, I would
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  Speaker 15: not expect a person who gave birth.
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  Speaker 1: To did she have on makeup? Does she actually have
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  Speaker 1: on eye makeup? Okay, I'm sorry, that's neither here nor there. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead, doctor Coyne.
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  Speaker 9: No, no, I was just saying, you're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 15: I mean a woman who just gives birth, I mean
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  Speaker 15: it's a traumatic experience. I mean the physical exertion that's
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  Speaker 15: required for giving birth, the loss of fluids, you know,
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  Speaker 15: the just the fear exertion. Especially if she's claiming that
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  Speaker 15: she had a normal vaginal birth, she should not be
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  Speaker 15: able to be behaving the way she is behaving.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're seeing her sitting down, lying down on a gurney.
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  Speaker 1: That no, no, Jessica Brooks is joining us. This is
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  Speaker 1: Reagan's mother, Jessica. Everything I'm seeing is screaming wrong. This
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  Speaker 1: is a lie. I can't put my finger on everything
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  Speaker 1: I'm seeing, but as a mom that had a very
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  Speaker 1: difficult delivery, everything about that is wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, could you imagine having given birth in a
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  Speaker 7: car and that, like somebody mentioned, those seat's not even back,
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  Speaker 7: She's up against the steering reel.
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  Speaker 3: It's impossible.
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  Speaker 7: And she said that she had started having her baby
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  Speaker 7: on the call, and the trooper pulls are over and
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  Speaker 7: here's the baby. You know, that's I don't even think
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  Speaker 7: the blood was still really wet on her. You know,
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  Speaker 7: it's just there's so many things. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 7: you know, you don't expect something like that to have happened.
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  Speaker 1: There's something wrong also, Karen, start with the body language,
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  Speaker 1: the way she's holding the baby. That's Brax on stage
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  Speaker 1: she's holding what she's holding brax on Sage like it's
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  Speaker 1: an it. She's an it. I mean, watch this, that's no.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Karen, I think I would have been running
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  Speaker 1: out in the streets screaming, trying to flag down it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what I would have been done, but
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  Speaker 1: not that. That is not what I would have done.
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  Speaker 11: So indicative of what's really happening here, Nancy, because this
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  Speaker 11: baby is not real to her.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a baby.
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  Speaker 11: It's an object.
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  Speaker 3: It could be a doll.
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  Speaker 11: She's like kind of tapping on it, but mostly she's
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  Speaker 11: talking and looking up and this baby.
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  Speaker 3: Who would do this?
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  Speaker 11: I don't know anyone just like you, anyone would be screaming,
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  Speaker 11: help my baby.
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  Speaker 3: She's not breathing.
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  Speaker 11: But no, she's like, the baby's not breathing, and then
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  Speaker 11: she's kind of tapping it and looking up and worried
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  Speaker 11: about herself. And this is so indicative of somebody who
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  Speaker 11: is completely out of it, doesn't care. Think of a
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  Speaker 11: serial killer, a murderer. She has no regard for this baby.
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  Speaker 11: It is all about her, and the baby's a vehicle,
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  Speaker 11: a way for her to get what she wanted.
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  Speaker 1: Bodycam obtained by True Crime unfiltered. Let's fast forward to
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  Speaker 1: Tylor Parker in the hospital when it's discovered, wait for a,
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  Speaker 1: Greg Morris, that she's had a hysterecte to me, OOPSI.
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  Speaker 9: I'm just gonna be upfront with you.
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  Speaker 4: I've been talking to the Dawn Louey County and they've
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  Speaker 4: been working on a case down there, and we know
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  Speaker 4: that you had a hysterect tom sometime back, and that
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  Speaker 4: you claim to be president for a while, but it
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  Speaker 4: really weren't. So I'm trying to figure out where this
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  Speaker 4: baby came from.
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  Speaker 9: But you didn't get birth this morning?
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  Speaker 3: What do you What do you mean?
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  Speaker 2: So?
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  Speaker 4: I just said you didn't get birth this morning, and
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  Speaker 4: we want to know where this.
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  Speaker 2: Baby came from.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I'm here.
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  Speaker 11: Absolutely happened.
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  Speaker 3: I just told you what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Greg Morris, do you want to take a crack
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  Speaker 1: at that. She's still sticking to her story and they
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  Speaker 1: just confronted her with the fact that she had a hysterectomy.
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  Speaker 9: Well, clearly you.
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  Speaker 1: Do know what hysterect to me is right, Greg Morris.
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  Speaker 9: I do, Nancy, And clearly in this community the police
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  Speaker 9: never heard of Miranda before because at that moment when
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  Speaker 9: they find out she did not give birth from UH
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  Speaker 9: and they start questioning her. They should have read a miranda.
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  Speaker 9: But I also have a bigger issue with this. You know,
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  Speaker 9: that first responder was very laxa daisical at that car door.
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  Speaker 9: Regardless of how Taylor Parker's acting, that first responder is
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  Speaker 9: trained in CPR. He doesn't even make an attempt to
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  Speaker 9: save that baby's life. So whether that would have been
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  Speaker 9: forward to a murder, I think there's an intervening cause
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  Speaker 9: there with regard to that first responderly.
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  Speaker 1: Non responsive question, no responsive. I asked, you, do you
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  Speaker 1: know what a hysterect to me is?
• 28:38
  Speaker 9: I do know what a hysterectomy is?
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: And you know a hysterect to me?
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  Speaker 9: And maybe you know these things would have fed into
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  Speaker 9: an insanity defense, and unfortunately her lawyers didn't advance that
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  Speaker 9: for her. So you know, she went back and had
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  Speaker 9: to process she was living in an alternate reality. She
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  Speaker 9: believed she could have kids, maybe and her psychosis was
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  Speaker 9: at a state that wasn't like yours and mine and
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  Speaker 9: regular people, and it could be linked back to that hysterectomy.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know the answer to that because I haven't
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  Speaker 9: seen her medical records, but what I do know is
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  Speaker 9: nobody reads her miranda, it seems from that video because
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  Speaker 9: they've never heard of it. And that first responder, I
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  Speaker 9: don't know. He wasn't acting very uh like there was
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  Speaker 9: an emergency in front of him.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, So it is the first responder's fault that
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  Speaker 1: she had a hysterect To me, I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: what you're saying. But okay, listen to this.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't kill anybody.
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  Speaker 15: Where does this baby come from?
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  Speaker 3: We're pasted all of that. We're past that. I did
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  Speaker 3: not kill anybody. I didn't kill anybody.
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  Speaker 2: So was she alive?
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  Speaker 11: And we left?
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't with any with her?
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  Speaker 11: Did you get a lady, it's mine?
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  Speaker 1: I think you are.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what a black bell? Do you know
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  Speaker 3: what y'all are finding over?
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  Speaker 2: She can't feel a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, yes, you are a bad person, and that
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  Speaker 1: is putting it so mildly. And number two, you did
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  Speaker 1: not black out. To Reagan's mother, Jessica Brooks, what goes
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  Speaker 1: through your mind when you see all of these lies?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, just everything that came out in court.
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  Speaker 7: Of course, she has been lying her whole life, and
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  Speaker 7: this was the peak of her lies. This was where
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: everything gets exposed what she is, who she is, and
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  Speaker 7: she is lost at knowing how to fix this. At
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  Speaker 7: this point, she can't get.
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  Speaker 3: Out of it.
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  Speaker 7: She's just spinning her wheels, trying to stick to her
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  Speaker 7: story and then trying to make herself the victim.
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  Speaker 3: She claims, you know that Reagan called her a liar.
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  Speaker 7: She claims that Reagan attacked her, and she's just as
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  Speaker 7: if she.
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  Speaker 3: Is today, just no revorse. She's all about herself.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what, Jessica, Miss Jessica Brooks, you said,
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  Speaker 1: nothing has changed even up to today. Will you are
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  Speaker 1: so right? The whiny rants this woman goes on behind bars, unbelievable.
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  Speaker 6: Did she say anything to you about makeup? Did you
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  Speaker 6: say anything to her about makeup? Because she doesn't think
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  Speaker 6: that makeup is going to be an option for you.
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  Speaker 8: Jess was taking care of it, That's what he called me.
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  Speaker 17: So the thing about it is if they try to
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  Speaker 17: discriminate you as a person, that that will work in
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  Speaker 17: your favor in the long run, because they're not giving
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  Speaker 17: you a fair fan.
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  Speaker 14: You know, they're wanting you to look like a homeless criminal.
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  Speaker 14: You know, they're not yetting you to look like a
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  Speaker 14: human because that goes that would be beneficial to you
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  Speaker 14: and detrimental to them.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you heard it, she's whining about makeup. Naomi Channel
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  Speaker 1: joining US TV producer, host of The Real podcast who
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  Speaker 1: has extensively researched and investigated not just this case, but
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  Speaker 1: many fetal abductions. Naomi, what is she talking about?
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  Speaker 5: She's so far gone. Anyone that would do this anyway
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  Speaker 5: is despicable. But the fact that she keeps doing this,
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  Speaker 5: she is prolonging this family's pain. She's prolonging the pain
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  Speaker 5: of everyone who loved Reagan. And this is what is
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  Speaker 5: just despicable. And we don't need you to look like
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  Speaker 5: a homeless criminal in court because we've seen the body cam,
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  Speaker 5: we've seen the feed attempts of pretending to do CPR.
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  Speaker 5: We've seen that you've had a hysterectomy. This is not
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  Speaker 5: your child, so we've seen this. So these rants are
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  Speaker 5: just Why does.
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  Speaker 1: She want makeup? Naomi? Why does she is she angry
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  Speaker 1: about no makeup?
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  Speaker 5: Is she's self centered? This is all about her. Court
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  Speaker 5: is another opportunity for her, I think, to just perform,
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  Speaker 5: to be the center of attention, because I think this
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  Speaker 5: is what this was all about in the first place.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, wait, put up Naomi. So this is a woman
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  Speaker 1: that wants to be the bride at every wedding and
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  Speaker 1: the corpse at every funeral because it's truly all about
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  Speaker 1: her and she needs her makeup. Is that right?
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  Speaker 9: Oh?
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  Speaker 5: You couldn't have said that better. Spot on. That is
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  Speaker 5: exactly what this is. This is all about her. She
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: has never considered anyone else.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I got to go to a defense attorney here,
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  Speaker 1: Greg Morris. Are you in a lot of cases? Is
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  Speaker 1: it because you carry around and makeup pouch with you?
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  Speaker 1: Is that your job legally? Oral arguments, cross examinations, direct examinations,
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  Speaker 1: and make it. Boy, she wants your makeup and she's
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  Speaker 1: saying that's discrimination. Excuse me, I didn't get my makeup.
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  Speaker 1: Where's my powder? You're discriminating against me?
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  Speaker 9: Really well, there's a there's a few things going on here.
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  Speaker 9: First of all, you know, under the constitution, the jury
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  Speaker 9: does never write to know you're in jail pre trial.
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  Speaker 9: The jury does never write to know any of those things. So,
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  Speaker 9: because it would be unfair, it would prejudge somebody and
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  Speaker 9: create a negative.
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  Speaker 1: Impression the presumption of anything saying that.
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  Speaker 9: So her wanting makeup is a couple of things. One
• 34:44
  Speaker 9: is the fact that you're going to court, so you
• 34:46
  Speaker 9: want to have regular clothes and you want to look
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  Speaker 9: like you normally do when you go out of your
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  Speaker 9: house or what have you.
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  Speaker 1: I've had it's not in the constitution, No, but it's
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  Speaker 1: not in case.
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  Speaker 9: Well, there's impressive she didn't at the makeup. But there's
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  Speaker 9: another thing going.
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  Speaker 1: On here to twist and make up request into the
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  Speaker 1: right for civilian civilian clothes in front of the jury.
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  Speaker 9: That she did not, I'm saying that's part of why
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  Speaker 9: she wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what she wants, and you tried to lump
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  Speaker 1: it in with the right to wear civilian clothes in
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  Speaker 1: front of the jury.
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: That's you want to present. You want to present your
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  Speaker 9: best trial.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm coming back there.
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  Speaker 6: Did she say anything to you about makeup? Did you
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  Speaker 6: say anything to her about makeup? Because she doesn't think
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  Speaker 6: that makeup is going to be an option for you.
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: Jef was taking care of it, that's what he told me.
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  Speaker 17: So the thing about it is if they tried to
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  Speaker 17: discriminate you as a person, that that will work in
• 35:48
  Speaker 17: your favor in the long run, because they're not giving
• 35:52
  Speaker 17: you a fair fan. You know, they're wanting you to
• 35:54
  Speaker 17: look like a homeless criminal. You know, they're not yetting
• 35:58
  Speaker 17: you to look like a human because that goes that
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  Speaker 17: would be beneficial to you and detrimental to them.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Straight out to Reagan's mother or Jessica Brooks, she wants
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  Speaker 1: her makeup, she wants her lip gloss. You know where
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: she can stick that lip gloss about three inches up
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  Speaker 1: her tailpipe.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, ma'am, absolutely, And that's what she was about the
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: whole time through trial. Everything in her life is about her,
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: her her appearance, how she looks to other people, what
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: other people think about her. She has to keep up
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  Speaker 7: this persona that she's this wonderful person that has done everything,
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  Speaker 7: has everything and looks amazing. And if she doesn't have
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  Speaker 7: her makeup, then that's not who she is and somebody's
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  Speaker 7: going to think different of her.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah, that's what all along.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's not what's making me think differently about her.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: It's the crime scene. It's little baby Bracts and sage.
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  Speaker 1: That's what's making me think differently about her. But it
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: doesn't end with the makeup pouch and the makeup discrimination.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: There's more. Oh, those lights, they're just too much on me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sensitive.
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  Speaker 8: Listen, I don't understand you have himy, you have already
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: been diagnosed with hemi polgic migraines.
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  Speaker 16: All right, If those slots trigger a migraine episode, the
• 37:22
  Speaker 16: damn jail is going to have more problems than they
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  Speaker 16: have right now with you.
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: Correct, And that's what me and her just goes today.
• 37:32
  Speaker 16: And maybe maybe, just maybe you should hold your eyes
• 37:35
  Speaker 16: open just as long as you can, but it will
• 37:37
  Speaker 16: trigger another episode.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, doctor Thomas Coin, what did you just say off?
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: What my grain?
• 37:45
  Speaker 15: Well, howmiplegic would be describing paralysis or loss of sensation
• 37:51
  Speaker 15: or motor function on one half of the body, or
• 37:53
  Speaker 15: it could be you're referring to one half of the brain.
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  Speaker 15: But you know, that would be a type of migraine
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  Speaker 15: where you'd have some sort of a schemia or stroke
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  Speaker 15: like symptoms. But it seems highly unlikely from you know,
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  Speaker 15: from any of the behaviors she's prettelly previously exhibited.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: You know, speaking of behavior she has previously exhibited, Doctor Coin,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: can we have a little reality check about what exactly
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: happened to Reagan.
• 38:20
  Speaker 15: Sure, I mean, it's it's horrible to even discuss again,
• 38:24
  Speaker 15: but I know that you know, she was stabbed numerous times.
• 38:29
  Speaker 15: I think, even up approaching the number one hundred stab wounds,
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  Speaker 15: including blunt crush injuries to her skull, and so I imagine
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  Speaker 15: up until a point when she lost a significant amount
• 38:44
  Speaker 15: of blood, she was conscious unfortunately for those injuries. And
• 38:49
  Speaker 15: you know, with regards to the infant, you know, I'm
• 38:52
  Speaker 15: assuming that child. You know, a normal cesarean delivery, you
• 38:56
  Speaker 15: would expect the child to survive. The child may have
• 38:58
  Speaker 15: fluid in their lungs from a se but in this case,
• 39:02
  Speaker 15: because of the severe blood loss, there was probably a
• 39:05
  Speaker 15: significant amount of time where that child was not receiving
• 39:08
  Speaker 15: blood flow through the placenta because of all of those
• 39:11
  Speaker 15: stab wounds. And that's probably why that child did not
• 39:15
  Speaker 15: end up surviving. But I can't imagine the horror she
• 39:20
  Speaker 15: went through or experienced until she lost consciousness.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: We've heard about the makeup discrimination, We've heard about her
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: light sensitivity, but there's more. Guess why she's having a
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: problem sleeping.
• 39:37
  Speaker 10: You're getting me something to shelp me sleep, and with
• 39:39
  Speaker 10: the not tears and for my depression, she said, I
• 39:44
  Speaker 10: probably talked her every three weeks, but they had me
• 39:47
  Speaker 10: on the list to jump to the counselor.
• 39:49
  Speaker 13: I am well aware that you did not think about
• 39:53
  Speaker 13: the consequent of your actim I know that, and I
• 39:58
  Speaker 13: don't want to talk about this on him. I don't.
• 40:03
  Speaker 13: If you long that way you can work, okay, Well,
• 40:07
  Speaker 13: that way we can save money for Emmerton. She'll be
• 40:10
  Speaker 13: around tomorrow.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Gee, I wonder why she's having problems sleeping? Could it
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: be the double murder?
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: There's more, mom, they would charge me with on the
• 40:20
  Speaker 8: fly right now if they could. Literally, that's what it
• 40:23
  Speaker 8: comes down to. I mean, there's another girl that tear
• 40:26
  Speaker 8: and they literally, you know.
• 40:29
  Speaker 17: Just through some bogus bullsh on her just because they could,
• 40:35
  Speaker 17: just because it makes them look better. You do.
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  Speaker 8: It's like one horrible thing, they'll they'll anything on whatever.
• 40:41
  Speaker 8: I mean, that's just what it comes down to.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: That.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Don't give it, sh I.
• 40:44
  Speaker 17: I think I understand what you're staying, but I don't
• 40:46
  Speaker 17: think it's thinking about that like you should be thinking
• 40:49
  Speaker 17: about that.
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: I mean, if not, just you.
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  Speaker 13: Do one horrible thing and they try to throw the
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  Speaker 13: book at.
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  Speaker 1: You back to Emily Sharie and Jessica Brooks. Emily Sharie,
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  Speaker 1: when you hear your sister's killer whining about her light
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  Speaker 1: sensitivity and her makeup discrimination, claiming that if she quote
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  Speaker 1: on a fly, should catch another charge, how does that
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  Speaker 1: hit you? She referred to the murder of your sister
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  Speaker 1: as a quote one horrible thing you do, just one
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  Speaker 1: horrible thing, and nobody forgets it.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, I definitely during court, I was very angry about
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  Speaker 12: all of it as they were presenting it to the.
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  Speaker 3: Court because they would every.
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  Speaker 12: Time that one of these phone calls would happen, they
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  Speaker 12: would actively bring someone from the jail or one of
• 41:49
  Speaker 12: the witnesses on the stand, so the court, the trial,
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  Speaker 12: I'm sorry, the jury could actually hear what she was
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  Speaker 12: complaining about and what she was saying, and it was
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  Speaker 12: very frustrating because obviously Reagan's life meant so much more
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  Speaker 12: than that, and it wasn't just one horrible thing. It
• 42:08
  Speaker 12: was absolutely the biggest mistake of her life, and unfortunately
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  Speaker 12: we lost my sister and niece because of it.
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  Speaker 1: To Reagan's mother, Jessica Brooks, I don't know how you're
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  Speaker 1: doing it, but you're taking all this pain and all
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: this anger and all this loss, and you are pushing
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: a brand new law, the Reagan and Braxlin Protection Act.
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  Speaker 12: What is it?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, ma'am the laws failed our girls, period. But we
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  Speaker 7: understand people need their privacy. We understand there's things that
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: other people don't need to know about you or whatever. However,
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  Speaker 7: so many people knew. Yes, we talk about people that
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: she had been friends with, new we talk about friends
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  Speaker 7: that have found out that knew. They all were trying
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: to reach out and trying to do what they could. However,
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  Speaker 7: the main thing we want to think about here is
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: medical providers knew beyond a shadow of a doubt they
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: had proof that she.
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  Speaker 3: Had had a hysterectomy. They did it, you know, they
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: performed that hysterectomy. They started watching her.
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  Speaker 7: Story basically on Facebook early on, and this kind of
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: disgusted amongst themselves because that's legal. But they couldn't tell
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: anyone outside of their facilities, anyone that did not have permission,
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: and so all they could do was wait and see, basically,
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: and that is what is so horrible. Yes, they did
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: as much as they could by notifying the local hospital
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: to be on alert the code pink, and that's just
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: saying somebody may be a danger to the to the
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: infants in the hospital, be on the lookout for a
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: person that may try to steal a baby. That didn't
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: save our girls, that didn't alert the people other people
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  Speaker 7: that needed to know.
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  Speaker 3: And so that's what this law is gonna focus on.
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  Speaker 7: You know, the main thing that we're focusing on is
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: Hippa trying to change the.
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  Speaker 3: Permissions that providers have once.
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: You know, once in the beginning, she could have been
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: planning to tell him she was pregnant, have a miscarriage.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Oh I'm miscarried, but you don't have to have a
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: body to prove that you miscarried.
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: However, once it gets to the point that she's in
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: the pregnancy where it has to be a stillborn to
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: lose the baby, then she has to produce a body.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: And so at that.
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  Speaker 7: Point people should have did know that it was dangerous
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  Speaker 7: to somebody or something, and still they couldn't notify anyone
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  Speaker 7: because they had no proof. She had not been in
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: trouble with the law previously, she didn't have any history
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: of violence. You know, it's just that they knew she
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: was lying that she was pregnant and had not backed
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: off of.
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  Speaker 3: It, so our laws hopefully that we're working on.
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  Speaker 7: Like I said, the HIPPA is going to be a
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: federal thing that we have to get changed. We have
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: to give medical providers and mental health providers the ability
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: to protect these pregnant women and unborn children and infants.
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: We have to give them the ability to reach out
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: and not have to live with something like this for
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: the rest of their lives. Another thing that we're focusing
• 45:39
  Speaker 7: on as far as maybe a state level, it's in
• 45:42
  Speaker 7: soup very early stages, but on the state level.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: We are hoping to hopefully.
• 45:49
  Speaker 7: You know, say a woman saying she's pregnant, she's lying,
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: and she has say a baby shower, and she's receiving
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: these gifts, or she's getting you know, state benefits, Medicaid
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: or just whatever we can find in there to make
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: it a criminal offense is.
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  Speaker 3: What we're going for. You know, we leave that up
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: to the attorneys.
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  Speaker 7: We have ideas of what we want to look at,
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: but we want something in place even before that point.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Miss Brooks. I am so inspired by you fighting on
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  Speaker 1: and doing everything in your power to somehow make something
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  Speaker 1: positive of the suffering of your daughter, your grandchild, and
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: your whole family. I wish you so much luck and
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: our prayers go with you as you continue to fight
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: for justice in your own way. Tonight we remember American
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Hero Sergeant Morton Ford. Alexandria, p D. Virginia passed away
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: in the line of duty after twenty six years on
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: the force, leaving behind brother Geary, sisters Connie and Lois.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: American Hero Sergeant Morton Ford. Thank you to all of
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: our guests for being with us tonight, especially Miss Brooks
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: and Emily Shye. Nancy Grace signing off for tonight, I'll
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  Speaker 1: see tomorrow night, and until then, good night friend,