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AmsterDAYUMM! RHOC Recap with Alexis Bellino · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, rain jobs. On today's episode of Reality with the King,
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  Speaker 2: we have to talk about I like to call this
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  Speaker 2: the preseason finale to the OC Housewives, but it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of making me said, if so, I'm like, wait, does
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  Speaker 2: that mean it's about to be over?
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  Speaker 3: With me?
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  Speaker 4: An alexis recapping the show.
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  Speaker 2: I've been having so much fun, Alexis, how are you all?
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  Speaker 5: Hi? Honey? Good good?
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  Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's not honey. It could be goodbye for now,
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  Speaker 3: but not goodbye forever.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, And that makes me super happy because at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day, we have to get in to
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  Speaker 2: this episode.
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  Speaker 4: I have heard your name more.
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  Speaker 2: Time to this episode in this season since last season
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  Speaker 2: we on the show.
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  Speaker 4: So let's just.
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  Speaker 2: Get right into it as Alexis is shaking her head,
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  Speaker 2: hit Head, Girls, Games and Days. All Right, So the
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  Speaker 2: start of the episode begins where Emily is questioning the
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  Speaker 2: sort of validity of Shannon's friendship with Jen, and she's
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  Speaker 2: not quite sure if this friendship is genuine. As they're talking,
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  Speaker 2: Emily does say like, look, Jin, you said that you're
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  Speaker 2: not going to alexis wedding because Shanna told you not to,
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  Speaker 2: which Jen denies, and I'm like, wait a second, Jen,
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  Speaker 2: I have to go back to last week's epiod. So,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, I'm a journalist, Hey, Portia, and in
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  Speaker 2: last week's episode, I have the quote for you Alexis.
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  Speaker 4: Jin said, and I quote I love you so Jen,
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  Speaker 4: but I got to keep it a buck.
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  Speaker 2: Jin said in last week's episode rain Drops, the last
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  Speaker 2: time I was with Shannon, she asked me not to go.
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  Speaker 4: Alexis. Where do we go from here?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean I am a little choked up because
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  Speaker 3: you know, I watched this about twelve hours ago, and
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  Speaker 3: Jen and I have obviously been going back and forth.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to get into details of that. We
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  Speaker 3: are trying to work through it, but what I will
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  Speaker 3: say is that, like I said, last time we last
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  Speaker 3: week when we did the podcast, you know, recapping Orange County.
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  Speaker 3: For that episode, I said, I definitely know now what
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  Speaker 3: was happening, and Jen tried to gaslight me and say,
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  Speaker 3: why are you not inviting me?
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  Speaker 5: Why are you on inviting me? This is weird?
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  Speaker 3: Well, because I felt something was happening and now it's airing,
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  Speaker 3: so I have a problem with that. But I also,
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  Speaker 3: I know people are going to think I'm an idiot,
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  Speaker 3: but I do have a compassion for what we do,
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  Speaker 3: the craft of reality TV.
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  Speaker 5: It's hard, So I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't understand why Jen didn't have a backbone to say
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  Speaker 3: to Shannon I'm going to my good friend's wedding, and
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  Speaker 3: why Jen tried to act like we weren't talking when
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  Speaker 3: we were.
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  Speaker 5: But I also I just.
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm kind of muddled right now, honestly, Carlos, because
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  Speaker 3: I've been dealing with this for the last twelve hours
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  Speaker 3: and been to Beverly Hills in back this morning. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I've got to be able to process at all.
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  Speaker 3: I do know in my heart that Jin and I
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  Speaker 3: are going to be okay. We're going to figure it out,
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  Speaker 3: because you can. It is possible to have hiccups in
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  Speaker 3: this you know, TV world, but also to find a
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  Speaker 3: way to figure it out together. I think it shows
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  Speaker 3: Shannon's insecurities for trying to tell a friend who she
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  Speaker 3: can and can't be friends with or go to a
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  Speaker 3: wedding of I think it shows Jen needs the backbone.
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  Speaker 3: But it also what I'm recognizing on watching these last
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  Speaker 3: two episodes is that I feel as if Jen says
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  Speaker 3: what needs to be said in that moment and she
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  Speaker 3: forgets that the cameras are on and that the cameras
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  Speaker 3: are going to catch what you like. Like, that's why
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  Speaker 3: you have to be so genuine and so authentic on
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  Speaker 3: a reality show, because if you're not, it will get caught.
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  Speaker 5: It will.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no it will.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I had to go back and rewatched that
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  Speaker 2: scene Alexis because I'm like, no, I could a swore
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  Speaker 2: what you said.
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  Speaker 4: And that's why I had to read a burbadi.
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  Speaker 2: She said the last time I OspA Shannon, she asked
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  Speaker 2: me not to go, and then when she told Shannon
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  Speaker 2: she wasn't going, Shannon said, thank you. You You're only
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  Speaker 2: saying thank you as a request exactly.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: This is where this is where both Shannon and Jen
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  Speaker 3: get caught being You're absolutely right. That's where Jin and
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  Speaker 3: Shannon both get caught being playing in the playing for
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  Speaker 3: the camera. Is that what it's called playing for the camera?
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  Speaker 3: That's where they both just got slapped. Okay, because Shannon's.
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  Speaker 5: Going, oh no, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't demand any friend to not to to not
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  Speaker 3: be friends with someone else. But then she says thank you,
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  Speaker 3: and then she's also like, oh, I thought you weren't
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  Speaker 3: friends with her, Like, if you don't really care, your
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  Speaker 3: reactions not gonna be that, your reaction's gonna be like fine,
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  Speaker 3: go that's on, Shannon.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Then there's Jen who's like, I never said that I
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  Speaker 3: like Alexis, which she did. Honestly, Carlos, you have to
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  Speaker 3: look back and watch. I watched it twice this time
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  Speaker 3: because I had to go back because there was so
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  Speaker 3: much for me to take in recognizing exactly what my
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  Speaker 3: fears were last episode, that Jen had done that to
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  Speaker 3: meet this episode, and I was like, okay, she does
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  Speaker 3: say I like Alexis. I have no issues with Alexis.
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  Speaker 3: What she was discounting was how much we didn't really talk,
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  Speaker 3: and we did, we did vent to each other, we
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  Speaker 3: did have back and forth, and I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: go into details about it right now because we are
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  Speaker 3: working through it. I am I'm not in a great
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  Speaker 3: place to be like, uh.
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  Speaker 5: Sharing a lot of that, but it's a hard career.
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  Speaker 3: And and Jen got caught because she said I am.
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  Speaker 5: Friends with Alexes. I do like her. Okay, Shannon, I
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  Speaker 5: won't go because of you.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's saying two things that once which they don't
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  Speaker 3: they don't correlate.
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  Speaker 4: M hm m hmm. Now listen and listen.
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  Speaker 2: I respect the fact that, look, at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day, you have a real friendship with Jen, and
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  Speaker 2: you're really trying to preserve the friendship to where you
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  Speaker 2: don't want to say too much.
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  Speaker 4: And I and I do respect that.
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  Speaker 2: What I will say as a viewer is this, It's
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  Speaker 2: evident and highly obvious that Shannon does not want Jin
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  Speaker 2: to be friends with you because she needs somebody on
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  Speaker 2: her side. She doesn't have camera. Emily and Gina have
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  Speaker 2: each other. Heather rise the fence like she belongs on
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  Speaker 2: a at a landscaping company or a fencing company.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's how she does.
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  Speaker 5: To me, belongs a tulipfield.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, exactly, And I'll get to that in a second.
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  Speaker 2: But what was obvious to me is this again, you
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  Speaker 2: don't have to say much, and I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: encourage you to because I do want you and Jen
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  Speaker 2: to remain friends, and I love the fact that you
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  Speaker 2: said you got to be fine.
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  Speaker 4: What I will say I to view when that was
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  Speaker 4: obvious to me, When.
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  Speaker 2: Jin downplayed how much she talks to you and what
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  Speaker 2: you said to me last week, how the phone call stopped, those.
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  Speaker 4: Two things started to make sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I tell people on these shows and
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  Speaker 2: Alexis is correct. These shows are hard for these women
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  Speaker 2: to be on and it is becoming an alliance.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm not saying what Jen did is fucked up.
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  Speaker 2: What I am saying is I wish Jen had enough
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  Speaker 2: strength to be like, Look, I am friends with Alexis
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  Speaker 2: and I do love her. What I can promise you
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  Speaker 2: is this, I will not allow alex to.
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  Speaker 4: Talk shit about you in front of me. And that
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  Speaker 4: should be okay because one thing Jen.
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  Speaker 2: Did say that I want you motherfuckers to talk about
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  Speaker 2: Jen confirmed Alexis never talks about Shannon. So all of
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  Speaker 2: you people who think Alexis is so obsister Shannon jen
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  Speaker 2: is saying everytown talk to her, she never brings her up.
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  Speaker 3: I don't bring her name up because she's she's a
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  Speaker 3: non factor in my life.
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  Speaker 5: She doesn't matter to me. And I want to go a.
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  Speaker 3: Little bit further on this right now, since you did
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  Speaker 3: bring her name up, which I would never have.
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  Speaker 5: But when she says to Jen.
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  Speaker 3: What Alexis has done to me? Okay, Carlos, I want
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  Speaker 3: to clear this up. Are you ready for this?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? I don't think you that.
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  Speaker 3: Nope, you better put your depends on and your seatbelt,
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  Speaker 3: but you might shit your pants and you might fly
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  Speaker 3: through the windshield.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I want to deliver some news right now. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: What Shannon doesn't understand is that I don't talk about her.
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  Speaker 5: Did you hear how many times.
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  Speaker 3: She brought up John's name or my name on this episode?
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  Speaker 3: Jansen bot this and that? Did do I wrecked John's boat?
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  Speaker 3: If she can't stop because she has no storyline and
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  Speaker 3: I'm now married to the man that she obviously is
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  Speaker 3: obsessed with, That's all, okay, I'm fine with that. What
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  Speaker 3: I'm not okay with is all the crap that she
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  Speaker 3: tries to talk about him and then going further, it's
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  Speaker 3: like she says, what Alexis has.
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  Speaker 5: Done to me?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, bitch, yes, I am cussing on this one. Sorry
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  Speaker 3: Billino kids, bitch, I ain't done shit to you. What
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  Speaker 3: has happened is you were caught on video several times, no,
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  Speaker 3: just once on the DUI night being a fucking monster.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm over all of the what Alexis has
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  Speaker 5: done to me.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing I did was stand up for my man,
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  Speaker 3: who I married and I'm going to be with for.
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  Speaker 5: The rest of my life. Yes, I did.
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  Speaker 3: I supported him insuing the woman that owed him seventy
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  Speaker 3: five thousand dollars, which she's like, I didn't owe him.
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  Speaker 5: Well, guess what any.
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  Speaker 3: Idiot that believes that she's not gonna bow down unless
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  Speaker 3: she knows she's gonna lose in a lawsuit because we're
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  Speaker 3: paying attorneys thirty thousand dollars for a lawsuit. Okay, she's
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  Speaker 3: not gonna pay the thirty thousand to the attorneys to
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  Speaker 3: fight this to find out she's not gonna win, and
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  Speaker 3: then my husband wins the case because and gets the
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  Speaker 3: money because they.
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  Speaker 5: Knew she needed to pay what she owed. We had
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  Speaker 5: the evidence.
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  Speaker 3: I don't go on reality TV to lie, to deflect,
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  Speaker 3: to be a victim or any of that.
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  Speaker 5: I live an authentic, true life. And so there you go.
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  Speaker 3: Did you hit your head on the windshield, Carlos, Because
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  Speaker 3: there you have it, there's the tea.
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  Speaker 5: So basically, right now, I am done with all of it,
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  Speaker 5: and everyone's right.
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  Speaker 3: Bravo should have kept me on this season because my
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  Speaker 3: name has been mentioned more than half the other cast mates.
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  Speaker 3: But I'll take it. I'll take it because guess what.
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  Speaker 3: Truth always comes out. And that was my tagline last year.
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  Speaker 3: They played that when I was coming on season eighteen.
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  Speaker 3: Truth always comes out. It's gonna come out, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: not gonna stop.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, I will say this in your defense.
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  Speaker 2: This is what I do find interesting. And this is
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  Speaker 2: why I always tell people. The people on social media
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  Speaker 2: who lovely pay comments is fine, who cares, But it
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  Speaker 2: is selected, Carlos.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's three percent.
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  Speaker 3: The people that comment on social media that want to
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  Speaker 3: be the a holes, it's it's three percent, So go away.
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  Speaker 3: It's not it's not the big it's not the big
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  Speaker 3: conglomerate picture of everything.
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  Speaker 5: You're three percent. Just go just just stop.
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  Speaker 3: Put your negativity to positivity, turn the world around a little.
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  Speaker 3: Stop leaving your negative comments like I'm over it. I'm
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  Speaker 3: leaving them all up anymore.
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  Speaker 5: I don't care. Fine, hate me?
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  Speaker 4: Good for you?
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  Speaker 5: Why you follow us if you hate us so much?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Yes, and with it? And people are loving you
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  Speaker 2: this podcast, in these recaps. So please, I'll, i'll, I'm
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  Speaker 2: the numbers, don't lie. What I will say is this
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  Speaker 2: What I want the Bravo audience to understand is, at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, Shannon is a housewife. Shannon
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  Speaker 2: has the right to say whatever she wants to on
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  Speaker 2: this show. Sorry, guys, I've been watching the show Shannon,
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  Speaker 2: mitch Is, Alexis and John a lot. He Alexis is
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  Speaker 2: not even on the show. So when you guys say,
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  Speaker 2: as Alexis is doing her job recapping a show that
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  Speaker 2: has Shannon on it. The reason Whyxis is than name
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  Speaker 2: is because she's nicknapping of the show.
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  Speaker 5: What excuse and aunt Shannon's bringing up my name?
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't mention her at all. If she didn't mention
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  Speaker 3: John or me at least five times every episode, I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't bring up her name one time. John and I
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  Speaker 3: do not talk about her. She is such a non
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  Speaker 3: factor since day one that I met John, so keep going.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's she is bringing us up, so I
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  Speaker 3: have to recap the show, and then I have to say, well,
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  Speaker 3: she's lying, that's not true.
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  Speaker 5: Let's talk about facts.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you have every right to the finger stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But I wanted to point out to the select them
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  Speaker 2: outrage is the fact that what excws does Shannon fans
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  Speaker 2: have when she constantly brings up Alexa John and alexis
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  Speaker 2: not even on the show this season.
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  Speaker 4: So when you guys leave me in comments about oh.
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  Speaker 2: My god, Alexis is so obsessed with Shannon, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it Shannon's obsessed with John Alexis because they're not
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  Speaker 2: on the show this season and she still finds a
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  Speaker 2: way to keep their names in the mouth.
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  Speaker 4: You numb me. I'm so, let's be fair.
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  Speaker 5: Storyline.
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  Speaker 3: She needs to find a storyline that does not include
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  Speaker 3: myself or John, and she has none, and no one
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  Speaker 3: cares about Archie anymore. Everyone's over the Archie and her falling.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, find a new storyline, Find a hobby. Like
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  Speaker 3: I've said many episodes before we've podcasted on, find a hobby,
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  Speaker 3: find something that you.
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  Speaker 5: Are excited about in life.
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  Speaker 2: That is you.
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  Speaker 5: And stop bringing up me and my husband because guess what.
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  Speaker 3: I was on a vengeance before last season when I
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  Speaker 3: knew everything that I knew. Now he's my husband, you
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  Speaker 3: better watch out because now it's a whole new it's
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  Speaker 3: a whole new. You better shut up about my husband period.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's my family and we all are one. We
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  Speaker 3: are all one.
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  Speaker 4: Family, alexas Dance and Ladies announcement.
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  Speaker 2: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
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  Speaker 4: Let's get back into the show, Alexis.
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  Speaker 2: One other thing that occurred this episode that I could
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  Speaker 2: wait to talk to you about is the hamster Will.
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  Speaker 4: That is Tamera and Gretchen and take it away, Alexis,
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  Speaker 4: go ahead, this to go, let's go. I'm over it,
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  Speaker 4: over it, over it.
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  Speaker 3: What I was gonna say is I feel like the
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  Speaker 3: show like last season it was all about John and
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  Speaker 3: I and it was a hamster wheel.
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  Speaker 5: Couldn't get over it. Okay. Then in the beginning of
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  Speaker 5: this this season, it was all about Katie.
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  Speaker 3: Couldn't get over that hamster will, and you and I
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  Speaker 3: are both like just done and over it. Now it's
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  Speaker 3: the Gretchen and Tamra Hamster Wheel. It's like we we
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  Speaker 3: What makes the show good is when people have the
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  Speaker 3: conflict and move on. What doesn't make it interesting or
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  Speaker 3: fun for you and I, Carlos to watch and recap
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  Speaker 3: on is when it's just it's like you're literally pulling, like,
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  Speaker 3: oh okay, another one and we're doing it again. We're
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  Speaker 3: doing It's like, I'm so over all of it.
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  Speaker 5: It needs freshness.
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  Speaker 3: It needs to be authentic arguments, which this is the
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  Speaker 3: one thing I will say. It is apparent to me
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  Speaker 3: watching this, and I want to know if you feel that,
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  Speaker 3: And I wonder what the viewers think. It is apparent
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  Speaker 3: to me that I don't think Gretchen can move on
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  Speaker 3: from the tamer of it all. Whah, I wonder, Well.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, because I'm not. I don't look I
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  Speaker 5: tell you, I stay off social media. I don't read comments.
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  Speaker 5: I don't look at the news. I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I watched the news, the news, but not
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  Speaker 3: like the Bravo World News. I don't know, but it
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  Speaker 3: seems to me like I'm I wish Gretchen would just
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  Speaker 3: say like her crying this episode.
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  Speaker 5: What do you think of that? Carlos like just I
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  Speaker 5: love Gretchen.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, I love Gretchen. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. I keep I
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  Speaker 2: keep telling the world this Carlos King is a history
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to reality television, because I'm watching it
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  Speaker 2: since the days of Flavor of Love.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean? Like, I study this shit,
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  Speaker 4: which is why I'm good at my job.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: I love pre Slade Gretchen, and I will keep saying
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: that because pre Slade Gretchen was so fun, so beautiful,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: so iconic that the tears to me. She's conflicted because
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: this man she's with is pulling her in a direction
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: that isn't her. I don't think Gretchen inherently is a
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: bad person.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: I don't, and I'm gonna get black for saying that.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: I don't think she's evil like some of the other
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: cast members on the show who should remain nameless.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: There's two there's two oc Housewife who I do think
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: are evil. I think they're bad people. I'm not gonna
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: say the names, but I don't think Gretchen is that person.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I will always say this, and again I may get
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: black for this. I think Gretchen is in a relationship
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: to which she is wrongly misguided, and when Emily clocked
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: it and said, I think gret feels one way when
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: she's around us, but then she has to go home
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: and not go home or go back to Ho Ho
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Tael and talk to Lade, and now she's conflicted all
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: over again.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: And that's why I will say I do I want Gretchen.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna say this house bad that I
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: but I have.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: To be honest. Gretchen is not.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: Going to survive and get asked back to me because
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: I think, based on what Slade produce her to be,
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: I don't see a world when she comes back from this.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: I don't know that I agree with one hundred percent.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Of that, but what I do agree with is I
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: do agree that she is heavily produced.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: I think there's a chance that she could be asked back.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: I think she will get eaten alive, and.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: If they ask her back, it's because they have more
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: to show. This is my own, my opinion, and you
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: know what, Carlos, my opinion means nothing to anyone. It's like, whatever,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: my opinion is, just my opinion. I'll sit with that
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: all day long because I have my family of eight
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: and freaking eight for babies, so we were busy.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: But and my four businesses, so we're busy. Okay.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: But with my opinion, I feel that there's a chance
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Crutch and could get asked back. I think that she
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: did lose sight. Everything you said about Slade is a
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: million percent she was a different person. I do think
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: he is the devil on two legs. I think he
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: plays in sheep's clothing and he's steering her wrong.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: He is, And that's okay because you know.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Years you don't get called, you know, elderly or old
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: because you haven't lived on the planet to learn enough
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: of the lessons, right.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: I think Gretchen is going to learn a really big
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: lesson by the end of this season.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I think she's probably already been knocked down a little bit,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: just from what I've heard.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: I don't know, but I have heard that it's not
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: looking good. But you know, at the end of the day,
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: it is your choice of what you're going to do.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I want to ask the viewers or the rain drops
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: right now, I want to ask the rain drops this.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Why can Tamra move past something that happened twelve years
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: ago and Gretchen cannot? Why can I look past something
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: twelve years ago that happened with Tamra and now have
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: a great friendship with her, and Gretchen cannot. Why can
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Vicky and I butt heads and become friends again because
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: we talk it out and Gretchen cannot? Why can Like
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: when you look at the Housewives and all these things
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: are intricate and we're filming a reality TV show. This
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: is not day to day life people. We all know
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: that is not what's going to happen in the neighborhood.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: The things that happen on reality TV are for in entertainment.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: It's not going to be what happens with your neighbor
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: next door. So why is it that everyone can seem
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: to put on their big girl panties and move on
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: and Gretchen cannot because Slade has it out for Gretchen
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: or for I'm sorry, Slade has it out for Tamra
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: because of the deadbeat dad thing, and I'm sorry he's
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: not not getting a job.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: Because she said he's a dead beat dad. He's not
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: getting a job because he is deadbeat. He's got to
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: go work for it. He can't just live off of
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: Gretchen's coattails, which she keeps saying it's all her. She's
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: doing it all. So he's to stay at home.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Mom, that's fine, hang your hat on that, but don't
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: be mad for something Tamra said twelve years ago. What
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: they've said about Tamra even this year. Tamarra's willing to
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: move on. Here's the biggest pinnacle of it all. It
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: was just discussed this year. The rumor just started this
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: year from Gretchen and Slade that Tamarra slept with somebody
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: in a studio that nobody has the proof of because
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: it's not true, and that she what was the other thing, Carlos,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: there was one other thing.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: Oh, she drugged.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: She drugged someone else there's no proof of, or her
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: son like like that. They're Gretchen for Tamersat. I mean,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: all of this is just huge things.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: But Slade can't get past the fact that he was
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: called a deadbeat.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Dad freaking grow up, you little boy, grow up, because
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: that's where it all stems from, and that's where Gretchen
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: is having this. I think the reason she was crying
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: so much this episode, to be honest, is because she
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: is having that confliction of wait, I don't believe everything
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: that Slade's telling me.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: And I know I should.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I have to stand by my man, who's not my
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: husband but my boyfriend or fiance of ten years. I
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: have to stand by him and listen to him. But
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: yet you're not really like letting go and true Christians
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: let go. I let go of a lot of hurt
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: and pain from a lot of these women, and especially
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: last season, Carlos, I got my ass kicked and handed
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: to me on a silver platter as a bit heard
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: last season. Okay, and I am okay with it because
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: it wasn't true what you saw, isn't all of the
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: reality of it all. But did I forgive and move on? Yeah,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: So Gretchen needs to. I think the best thing she
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: can do, Carlos is.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: That no, listen, I agree with one hundred percent of
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: the things you're saying, because even when her and Tamra
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: have the conversation, they ended up by saying, okay, let's
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: not talk about each other, as of not let's not
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: do it. But then Gretchen does it again, and then
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: what I thought to be interestincing again, I'm gonna say this,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: and you don't have to say a word.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: I think Heather is so phony, and I paused it
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: for years, and I.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I don't understand how Heather can't claim to be Tama's friend.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: But when it comes to the way Heather handles Gretchen,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: she says things like, at her core, Gretchen is a
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: sweet girl, which okay, I actually would agree with that,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: but I've never heard you say at her core Tamara
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: is a sweet girl. Because when you and Emily both
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: said that you don't trust Tamra, why aren't you able
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: to get past other things?
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: You can't get past that.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: The way she speaks about Gretchen and has Gretchen's back,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I don't see her do that to Tamra at all.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: And that's why for me, I.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Don't understand why Heaven can never say Tamar's best friend,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Teddy Mellencamp and her co host, is battling cancer in
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: her brain and she is suffering through this. So, yes,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: has Tama done things that she shouldn't have done? Sure,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: and I think we all can say that, right, But
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: at her core, I think she's a good person. But again,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: if you don't feel that way, Heather, they'll say things
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: you don't feel. But to me, the moment she said
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: that about Gretchen, I said, Tamar I have said this
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: is day one.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: The only friend.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Heather is is Terry and hermas, And I don't care
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: if people get infensited by that.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: I don't think.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: And maybe Josh Autman because she's I think he's only
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: friends with the people she can give real estate discounts from.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: Oh golly, Carlos, you are going in right now.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying because it thinks this. I watched these
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: shows like a student. I literally I study this craft
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: and I listen to what people are saying. I have
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: never heard Heather de Bro and range us. If I'm wrong,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: show me the receipts. Show me the receipts if I'm wrong, please,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I have I've never heard Heather speak about Tamra the
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: way she spoke about Gretchen in this episode. It was
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: very delicate, and at the end of the day, unless
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: heaven de Bro tells me for the past twelve years
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: when Gretchen was off the show that y'all two had
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: dinner at fancy restaurants. I don't understand why you're so
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: while you're taking up so much for Gretchen when your
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: friend is crying and leaving because she's been accused of
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: drugging somebody.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Your friend has been accused of drugging somebody.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Your friend is battling a depression and she admits that
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: she's on medication and taking some because.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Of it, but you have no grace for her.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: You stab her again and shank her when you say
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: things like I don't trust you. I don't want to
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: be friends with no motherfucker who doesn't trust me. But
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: that's Carlos King, and that's what I have.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: To say about that.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: So let me. I'm glad you got that all off.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Do you feel okay?
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: I didn't feel good.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I had to do that.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I had to do that earlier in this podcast. So
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: we both feel lighter now. Okay, we got it off
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: our trust O. Yes, cut que piggyback on your comments.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I felt that sitting next to Heather last season on
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: the reunion. I did because Emily's screaming over me like
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: an elephant woman like ever Shrunk's just flying up and
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: she's like slapping me in the face, and Heather's right
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: there in between.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Okay, right there, could have simply said Emily just alets
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: us talk.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Not one time did she, But yet she fought for
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: me to get back on the show for a long time,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: and I do feel like she's my friend. So I
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: do have to say, when I'm being objective recapping this show, everybody,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to dig on people. I'm trying to
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: recap a television show. I do feel some of that
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: from you, like what you're saying. I do feel like
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Heather needs to stand up for what she truly believes.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: And I think she just doesn't want any slack or
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: slack or from anyone. But I think that it's gonna
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: end up biting her in the butt.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: I don't know, but I don't what is what is
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: Heather getting right now?
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Are people noticing this or is this just honestly a
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Carlos feel from watching it, Like, is she getting some
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: like Okay, Heather stand up for some people here?
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: No, Listen.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: The reason why I never based my opinions off of
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the three percent on Twitter is because I know that
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: people have select them outrage and and and those you.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Like you like it.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: They can do the worst things in the world, but
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: they get they get defended. You know, we see that
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: with Shannon's a horror behavior. Shannon allegedly yells at production
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: that's a note for me. I don't play those games.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: It's true, Yeah, that's that's a no note. But if
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: tamray'll that production, they would give her her as the kiss, you.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Know, because of that.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if people on Twitter are seeing
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Hea there's I think Hea there's duplicitous.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure people are seeing it. I don't give
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: a fuck if they don't. I see it. And I'm
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: somebody who watched these shows with no bias. Yes, I'm PRIs.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: But Tamra, but last year, I.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Said on this various podcast Alexis, I said, look baby,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: uh jen Rad Tamra.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Now on that trip when he stormed in the hotel room, man,
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: I said, Tamora, he got red girl who deserved it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: So I'm not biased. What I what I'm able to
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: see is the fact that.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: There's bias when it comes to the audience projections when
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: it comes to these women and Heaven de bro is duplicitous.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: She's no one's friend, and that was evident when she
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: gave all of these sweet gestures to Gretchen.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: I had yet to see her give it to Tamera.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: That's my opineah, and I don't I don't understand honestly, Carlos,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: why she's giving props to Gretchen because Gretchen has been
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: awful to Tamera on this on this same season, Heather's
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: seen it. So not only has it been going on
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: for twelve years on this on this season, Heather witnessed it.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: So I don't know.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: It makes no sense to me other than I've said
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: this before, Carlos, Gosh, Rain Drups don't hate me. I've
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: said it before on a couple episodes ago that we
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: podcasts ago. I think the girls are trying to ice
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Tamra out again, I do. I think that they are
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: like Tamra is the only reason the ratings got better was.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: When Tamra got brought back. Okay, then the ratings are
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: back because Tamrack calls a spade a spade or slay
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: a slave like we said before.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: And the problem is the problem is if they I
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: throw out and Tamara gets canned another nap, she has
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: to take another nap for a couple of years, the
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: show's going to tank and they're going to have to
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: bring her back.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: So it's almost like it's almost like the girls.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I feel like the girls don't like the truth being
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: called out, but Tamar's the only one that will do it,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: and we'll keep the storyline moving forward. And I don't
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: care if she's my friend or not. I don't give
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: a crap about that. I'm talking objective from me watching.
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: This show because guess what.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: We all saw the ratings when Tamora left, and we
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: all saw the ratings when the Tammar came back.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: Okay, Hello, that's receipts in itself, just by looking at
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: the billboard on that.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, But so she could very easily be canned because
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: the girls are all like, well, I don't want to
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: fill with her.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: We're trying to.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Get off because she calls the facts, but she'll be back.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Well look look Li look, always listen rain Drops when
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: you watch these shows. Always listen to what they're saying,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: because it's buzzwords. When Emily and Haber both said we
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: don't trust Tamra, those were code words for we wow
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: her off the show. We can't feel with somebody we
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: don't trust. They feel like goes too low.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: I never thought about that. But it's not Tamra goes
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: too low. It's Tamra won't let you go from the
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: truth like, she'll tell the truth. She'll call the truth
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: and that's what you know what else, Now, what you
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: just said just got me fired.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: Up a little bit.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: When she's calling the truth out, they think, oh, we
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: can't tell her any information. Unfortunately, you don't have to
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: feed the information of Tamra because you're filming a reality show.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: So Tamara is smart enough to watch things happen and
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: know truth about what's going on behind the scenes and
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: in the scene. She's just the only one that will
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: actually call it out when all the other women.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: Will sit back and be like, Oh, we're going to
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: it farm and you know, no.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Tips, No, Tamara's gonna move the storyline and tell the truth.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: No, that's that's that's that's that's what it is, guys.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Because it's the reason why they I saw Katie. Is
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: the reason why Emily said I'm mad at you, Tama,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: you me with Katie, because that meant, oh my gosh,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Tamara's gonna bring Katie back on the show.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Katie knows too much and she's willing to bring it up.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: That's what's going on, and it was evident because let's
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: let's get into what Tamar did Tamra showed Jin And
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: and I want.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: To get your honest thoughts on this, not that you
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: you're not honest, but.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: No, no, why.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Don't start girl?
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: Now, Okay, I'm going to start lying right now.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: When approached Jin And said, look, I got this podcast.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I heart sensed those topics to talk about, which I
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: can confirm as against co hosts on two teas of
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: the pod towns telling the truth, the producers docing topics
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: for us to discuss right when I'm against co host
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: on two teas of the pod. And she did show
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Jen a headline of how Jen, you know, have to
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: pay six figures for a set, I'm able to come
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: to some rent, you know. She she went to Gin
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: and said, look, this is what came to me, and
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: there you go. I thought that was a nice gesture.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Jen said, look, I'm just not sure I can trust
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: the intentions of what I'm white Tamra brought this to me.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: I didn't think Tamra was doing it to em barness. Jin,
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: I think two things, and this is my opinion.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Camera understands how to make great TV. So she understood, like, okay,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: this is what came to me. Instead of me talking
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: about it behind her back. I'll go to her to
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: talk about it, and then from beer, Jen Cans said,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: one of the fucks she wants to about it. But
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: at least I brought it to the source. And that's
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: why Tamera is a great reality star because she knew
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  Speaker 2: I do have this info. I can easily talk about
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: it to the girls, But why not pull Jenn aside
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  Speaker 2: and say, look, this is what I had And I
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: thought two things can be true.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I thought she had the best intentions, but also
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: thought she was doing her job.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I agree with you, I also have a I
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: have another feeling to it. So my question would be,
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  Speaker 3: it's a headline. It's an article that came out. It
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: was not private information. It was on a headline in
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: a tabloid.
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  Speaker 5: Okay. That means we're all going to know about it
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  Speaker 5: in the next twenty four hours anyways.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think that it's bad at all that
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Tamra brings up something to get clarity for everyone about
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  Speaker 3: the fact that please clarify for me what does this mean?
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: And by the way, there's nothing wrong with Jen owing
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: that many and they had they weren't a hard time
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: and then they paid it back.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: Who cares. It's just like a credit card.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: You you swiched your credit card, you pay it back
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: over time, you pay the interest, whatever, So who cares
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: about that? That's not even a big deal. But I
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: don't think Tamar had bad intentions. I think she said
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  Speaker 3: this is going to be in a headline.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: Let me just clear the air.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: We also know that there are certain things that we
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: are to discuss on camera, and the scene doesn't end
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: until things are discussed and hashed out. So I think
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Camra was doing her job. She got handed a job
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: to do and she delivered for the viewers. You're welcome
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: is what the viewers should be saying, or a thank you,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, and Tamra can say you're welcome, but like
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: that was a job.
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  Speaker 5: We've all been to.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Agrey, I feel like she's doing her job
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: and it's not a rumor that she heard from the neighbor.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: This is a headline that she was presented to her,
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: and from there you have everybody to do it.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: It's the way just zeb Bryan works a potomac, Like,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: these are things that are out there and I feel
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: like it's okay to address it.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: Similarly, similarly to what Emily feels.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: She and Gina are in a bad spot when it
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: comes to the fact that, according to Gina weeks ago,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Tamra showed her and they showed the flash sideways, which
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: is Tamra actually showing Gina this Instagram post that allegedly
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Gene I'm sorry that allegedly Gretchen Life.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: Now they did blur it out.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: The post pretty much said something about pedophilia and homosexuality.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: That's that's what the post was about, that allegedly allegedly
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: allegedly Gretchen.
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  Speaker 4: Like, Okay, that was the post that they've burned out.
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: You missed the one key part to that.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: It was because I've seen the post because it popped
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: up on my Instagram too.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: It just came up when all this was happening. But
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: it's pedophilia and homeo homosexuality are equivalent, You're the same.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: That's the part you missed. Just now for the brain
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: ops to hear it that you didn't say that is
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: that is what this post blogger, I don't even know
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: what it was. I don't even know the site that
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: quoted this said, if you are homosexual, it's the same
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: as pedophilia. Okay, how disgusting is that number one. But
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: the fact that Gretchen liked it is the grossest part
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: of it all. And that is where you just said
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: the homosexuality and pedophilia. You didn't explain to the rain
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Drops exactly it was that. It was that they were
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: making it equivalent. It's not it's not equivalent.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Yes, no, you're you're right, yes, and I want to
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: find it.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: They they scrubbed it from the internet, but obviously, as
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: you know, on the internet, everything isn't totally scrubs. The
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: alleged alleged alleged post said, when you open the door
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: to homosexuality, you open the door to pedophilia. You'll never
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: win by normalizing perversion. That is what the alleged post
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: said that allegedly gret like Gretchen. I just want to
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: say for the record, Gretchen has since denied it, so
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: I do want to say that on the record, she's
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: saying that it's not true.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: She never liked it, and I believe she's a legend.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: It was photoshop and rain dropped.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Just so you know, this is the post that we
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: saw in the next week sees the finale where Heather
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: of the bro seems to be angry about it and
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: confronts Gretchen, and Gretchen is saying that it was not true. Look,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I will say this, that is a disgusting post. Anybody
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: who likes it, you're a disgusting person to like it.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Gretchen.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: We have to see what happens. I saw the post.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: It does appear that Gretchen did like it. And what
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: people have been saying about Gretchen that you and I
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: talked about, Mom, you know, weeks ago, but you got
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: really upset about it, rightfully, So a lot of people are.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: Saying that Gretchen has homophobic.
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  Speaker 2: Leafs and what we did see before I'll let you respond,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: alexis what we did see in Becoming Attractions for next
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: week's see the finale was Gretchen mentioning something biblical, and
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: that's when I believe was Gina, who was like, but wait,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: what does it have to.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Do with X, Y and Z.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: So I do want to say that, yeah, I mean,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I don't want to comment on next week's episode because
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: it's I love the teasers and they're never sometimes they're
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: not even ever true, or it throws you off or whatever,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: So I don't really want to talk about that until
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: we actually watched that episode. But what I will say
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: is to say that it was scrubbed or or not
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: her mention it or you know, liking it. Carlos, I
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: would love any person following your podcast.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: Which you have, how many followers do you have? How
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: many brain drops do you have? Hundreds of thousands, one,
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: hundreds of thousands?
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: Thank you guys.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: I would love I would love one of them to
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: come forward and simply DM you or me and say, yes,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: it's happened to me that my account has been that
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: I had this happened.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: I would love one because guess what when my account
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: got hacked.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: I didn't suddenly start getting liking posts that I liked
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: where it was they just tried to shut me down,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: and they put Armenian words under my profile, and they they.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: Locked me out of my account.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: I got it back, but that hacker didn't put me
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: liking things I didn't like it. So I would love
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: one person to come forward and say that number one,
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: number two, that is the easiest scapegoat, That is exactly
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: a one oh one Slade's We're going to cover up
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: your mistakes, Gretchen, and we'll figure it out.
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: Do I think she probably did say that and regrets it. Yeah,
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: but that's the end of it. Pure. I mean, I
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: don't I don't any of that that it was What
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: did she say, scrubbed? Is that what you said? She
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: said it's scrubbed. I don't even know.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Well, no, so I believe and again we'll know next
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: week when the episode airs.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: I do believe that Gretchen allegedly did an.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Interview and she has denied that she liked it and
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: she was single photoshopped.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sorry, you can't photoshop people's names, and no,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: that would happen. Can you imagine how many of us
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: would be getting a cute like There would be so
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: many people saying it's photoshopped that it would we'd hear
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: of this all the time.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: You don't hear of this.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: You don't hear of people's accounts being photoshopped and liking
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: somebody else's post.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: It's not heard of.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: So that's why I want the rain drops to come
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: forward because maybe I am ignorant in that topic. But
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: I've never known one friend. I have a lot of friends.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: I have a lot of people on social media that
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: I know I've never heard of. They're liked being photoshopped in.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: I haven't either does being completely on it and this
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: is this is going to rear's ugly head next week,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: and we'll see what happens.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: But it's gonna be good because yeah, we're going to.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Get down to it for the season finale and really
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: really get down to like what is happening. But again, look,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I am thrilled that we get to really see the
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: combination of what's been happening this season.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: And I'm ready for the reunion. I'll pray for that.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Carlos, hold on, I want to see next week and then, yes,
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: we need the reunion, but I need to see next week.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: Okay, I got for sure.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: You're you're like you're like running to to Neiman Marcus
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: and we barely just park the car, Like come on, okay,
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: I haven't got my seatbelt up yet, I haven't turned
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: the car off, and you're already Anemen Marcus.
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: Okay, slow down, buddy, take me.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: To both thank me to the storms nor next week
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: su finale.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: It looks to be good.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: And trust me, Ray Josh Alexis, I will be back
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: to recap that. Alexis, thank you so much for hopping
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: back in.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: I think you had a busy day. I love you,
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: give my best to John le kids, and I will
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: see you next week.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: Next week.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: Bye, alright, bye baby bye.
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• 44:28
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