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INTERVIEW: Sensei Ja Talks 'Papermade,' Relationship With Michael Jai White, Tank, Spirituality Within Martial Arts, Bruce Lee + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Morning.
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Speaker 2: Everybody is tj Envy just hilarious. Charlamagne the gud We
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Speaker 2: are the breakfast Club Lon Roses here as well.
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Speaker 1: We got a special guest in the building.
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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed got Ja Muhammad.
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Speaker 1: Welcome brother, and how you feeling.
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Speaker 3: I'm feeling good.
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Speaker 4: They don't believe nothing I'm saying about you, sir. They
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Speaker 4: don't believe you actually know martial arts. I told him
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Speaker 4: that you related to the tank. They don't believe that.
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Speaker 4: Like they don't believe nothing.
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Speaker 3: I'm saying, what are you talking about?
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Speaker 1: I don't Instagram.
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Speaker 3: We can see now just three minutes ago. You didn't
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Speaker 3: know now three minutes ago.
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Speaker 1: I mean.
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Speaker 3: You know you can't.
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Speaker 1: I can't. You can tell him out, Yeah, to trust him,
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Speaker 1: tell him who you are?
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Speaker 3: My brother.
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Speaker 1: My name is since A Jah.
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Speaker 5: I'm on social media known that since A Jah Jair
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Speaker 5: martial artist, actor, and I just strive to be an
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Speaker 5: overall beautiful example for some of our young brothers to
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Speaker 5: follow and look at, because so many of our people
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Speaker 5: don't have a good example. So I was blessed to
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Speaker 5: be raised, you know, by my beautiful mother and my
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Speaker 5: beautiful father and just drive to be the clean glass
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Speaker 5: that's a little bit about me.
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Speaker 4: And you have this movie that you did call Paper Made,
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Speaker 4: and it's described as an HBCU martial arts drama.
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Speaker 5: Yes, so I can't say that I made it. But
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Speaker 5: this director is sitting behind me, Ryan Watson, he's actually here.
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Speaker 5: He's the one that directed it. He wrote the script.
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's all his child. And he was a
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Speaker 5: follower of me on social media for a few months
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Speaker 5: and he was just watching me, and he reached out
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Speaker 5: to the d MS and said, man, I got I got.
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Speaker 3: A roll for you.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, roll for what. He's like a movie.
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Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, So no acting experience, no auditions, no nothing.
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Speaker 5: So I flew out to Florida and shot and learned
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Speaker 5: two weeks worth of choreography in two hours. So it
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Speaker 5: was a blessing that through my skill set, I was
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Speaker 5: able to adapt quickly and make things happen.
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Speaker 1: So I'm excited. Which HBC did He goes to.
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Speaker 6: Okay martial art.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's just putting a lot on our people.
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Speaker 3: D set it up so you can hear what Ryan
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Speaker 3: ben training martial arts.
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Speaker 5: So I was four years old, four years old. Somehow
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Speaker 5: my father put me in it by my teacher, doctor
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Speaker 5: I dualized. He's Muhammad formally on his grand master, Anthony Muhammad.
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Speaker 5: He was He's known in New York as a legend,
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Speaker 5: and growing up under him, I've been able to reach
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Speaker 5: the level of you know, I guess what you would
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Speaker 5: call it, you know, virality or whatever the case may be,
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Speaker 5: because people I've never seen him before.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, four, So Ryan, did I make that up?
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Speaker 3: HBCU Martial Arts drama.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fictional HBCU based in Tampa, Florida, where
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Speaker 2: I live, And it's basically sort of a play on uh,
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Speaker 2: like the fraternity that gives you a tangible skill, and
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Speaker 2: so it sort of gets away from some of the
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Speaker 2: traditional things initiation wise and brings into something that I'm
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Speaker 2: very passionate about, which is martial arts. Something I've been
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Speaker 2: doing since I was a little boy. I took a
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Speaker 2: break when I started having kids and stuff like that,
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Speaker 2: but it's something I've always wanted to get back into,
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Speaker 2: and this movie has really put me into place to
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Speaker 2: do that and reconnecting with my martial arts with these guys.
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Speaker 2: We got like something like thirteen black Belts on the
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Speaker 2: on the cast, and I did write but I did
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Speaker 2: co write with Jiron Horton, who also wrote for Netflix Forever,
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Speaker 2: so shout out.
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Speaker 3: To him, what was it about this brother that she
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Speaker 3: was like, you know what he's doing for.
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Speaker 2: This, I've never seen a man this big move the
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Speaker 2: way he moves. And then it was the video with
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Speaker 2: him out in front of the mosque where I was
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Speaker 2: seeing his hands in the way he moved, and I
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Speaker 2: was just like, Yo, this is amazing. I've never seen
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Speaker 2: a man that size moved that that well. And then
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Speaker 2: as far as his performance went on the move he
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Speaker 2: was in the middle of Ramadan right towards the end.
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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, he's thout, listen y'all. The
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Speaker 2: nutrition that he was lacking in his body to be
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Speaker 2: able to move the way he moved, It's like he's
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Speaker 2: a real life like unicorn. Like I've never seen anything
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Speaker 2: like that before. And it was like towards the end,
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Speaker 2: you know, at the beginning, you're still kind of all right,
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Speaker 2: but towards the end where you really like needing food
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Speaker 2: and stuff like that, to see that level of energy
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Speaker 2: come out of him at this size, it was it
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Speaker 2: was amazing.
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Speaker 3: Man.
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Speaker 2: So he's like, this is a real life unicorn.
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Speaker 3: Here, so break down what Paper Made is about for
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Speaker 3: people that don't.
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Speaker 1: Know it into the trail.
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Speaker 2: Paper Made is about a young man who uh is
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Speaker 2: a martial arts kid. He's Paper Made is about a
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Speaker 2: young man who transfers from a p w I to
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Speaker 2: a HBCU. He has been he has a martial arts background,
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Speaker 2: but he falls he falls away from it, right and
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Speaker 2: so so he gets into trouble at the HBCU, and
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Speaker 2: so in order to redeem himself, he has to pledge
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Speaker 2: his father's martial arts fraternity in order to get back
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Speaker 2: in the good graces of the university.
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Speaker 3: Miles True.
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Speaker 2: It is the main character. Michael Ji White plays his
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Speaker 2: father trying to get him back on the right track.
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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of sub you know, a lot
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Speaker 2: of stories in the middle of it that I think
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Speaker 2: everybody's really going to enjoy.
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Speaker 4: And you and Michael had some issues that turned into
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Speaker 4: like a conversation that kind of led to some unity
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Speaker 4: that led to this.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I can say it was a misunderstanding. That's
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Speaker 5: the high road. But Michael, he's a beautiful brother. But
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Speaker 5: I posted a video of me doing my techniques and
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Speaker 5: I was demonstrated and I was showing, you know, my
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Speaker 5: skill sets to social media for everybody to learn from.
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Speaker 5: And he commented under my post, you know, and he
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Speaker 5: said words such as, you know this is fake, this
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Speaker 5: is phony, and you know this is what the stars
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Speaker 5: like myself pay the stunt double so that we can
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Speaker 5: a good wow. So that being my first interaction with somebody,
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Speaker 5: that's an absolutely So you don't know me. And it's
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Speaker 5: crazy because I was talking. I was sitting next to
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Speaker 5: my brother and Ellie Chopper. We were sitting there on
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Speaker 5: the couch playing a game. It's crazy, my first time
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Speaker 5: with you all. I was on the couch. Last time
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Speaker 5: Bryson was up here a circle moment. Yeah, that's that's
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Speaker 5: my brother. But we were sitting on the couch. I said, man,
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Speaker 5: I just got to note if I said, man, Michael
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Speaker 5: just White just commented on my post. He said what
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Speaker 5: they read it out loud, so I got to reading
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Speaker 5: the man my face went from a smile to a scout.
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Speaker 3: I'm like that.
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Speaker 5: I was like, but but you know, long story short.
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Speaker 5: You know, I responded to him by sending him by
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Speaker 5: posting a video of me just going crazy. I'm just
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Speaker 5: whooping people in tournaments, like just going absolutely insane. So
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Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, you as a martial artist, you can
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Speaker 5: identify true martial arts because he's a to five martial artists.
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Speaker 1: You can't take that away from him at all.
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Speaker 5: So next thing you know, he reaches out to the
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Speaker 5: director and he says, Man, I see you in a movie.
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Speaker 1: I see everybody that's in it. Man put me in it. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: Ryan has been reaching out to him for years to
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Speaker 1: put him in this film.
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Speaker 2: So now, yeah, that's a crazy story. I ain't gonna
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Speaker 2: throw nobody under the bus.
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Speaker 1: And this is not what that is. I'm not going
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Speaker 1: to know.
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Speaker 2: But what happened is I did the pilot for this
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Speaker 2: movie back in twenty twenty two and we did very
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Speaker 2: well on the festival circuit, a lot of action festivals
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Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and it went real well. So
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Speaker 2: I used the proof of concept to recruit. So that's
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Speaker 2: when I linked up with Walter Jones' original black part Ranger.
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Speaker 3: He wanted to do it.
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Speaker 2: I hit Taim mock up. His folks were like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: let us know when you're ready, And Michael was the
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Speaker 2: one that I could never get a hold of because
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Speaker 2: I was doing it the right way, going through the
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Speaker 2: managers and all that stuff, and so the emails weren't
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Speaker 2: reaching them. I had it set up for it was
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Speaker 2: gonna be him and his wife to be the young
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Speaker 2: man's pan parents Oh wow movie. But I could never
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Speaker 2: get ahold of him. And then so I had sort
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Speaker 2: of just made peace with it, like I just assumed
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Speaker 2: he didn't want to do it, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: And then I linked up with him. But then when
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Speaker 2: the press release dropped the first week of February, like
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Speaker 2: everybody was like, Yo, this is amazing, and then I
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Speaker 2: was like, I need a dad for this young man,
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Speaker 2: like a powerhouse martial arts guide. There was only one
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Speaker 2: other person. So then Walter Jones was like, Yo, I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna hit Mike up and see if he wants to
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Speaker 2: do it. And then what happened after that was just
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Speaker 2: like he called me and was like, Yo, I'm so sorry.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know anything about it, but I want to
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Speaker 2: be a part of it. And I mean, he's the
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Speaker 2: nicest guy of all time.
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Speaker 3: He was in the movie.
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Speaker 2: So I called him immediate and I was like, yo,
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Speaker 2: Mike wants to do the movie, Like, so here we are,
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Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying, so it was like
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Speaker 2: a full circle moment, and like you know, I was
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Speaker 2: aware of the back and forth beforehand, and I was like, yo,
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Speaker 2: obviously God has put us in a situation where we
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Speaker 2: can man.
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Speaker 5: I would get these two men at the table, and
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Speaker 5: I was so to see him. I was like, man,
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Speaker 5: put us on it, fly me in on the same
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Speaker 5: time that he's there. I just want to get eyes
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Speaker 5: on him, meet him, and like so we can feel
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Speaker 5: my energy and I can feel his. But the things
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Speaker 5: didn't line up to where he left the day before
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Speaker 5: I got there, so I said, just wasn't time yet,
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Speaker 5: So I shoot my thing or whatever.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 5: I told the director, I'm like, man, I'm about to
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Speaker 5: go in to breakfast club that we're going to talk
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Speaker 5: about what happened. Y'all should have a conversation. So I
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Speaker 5: get a phone call and I got Mic on the
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Speaker 5: other line. I said, right now, I was all right,
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Speaker 5: merge me in. So beautiful, beautiful conversation started off as him, man, man,
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Speaker 5: young blood, we ain't got no issues, no problem. Man,
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Speaker 5: I love what you're doing all of that, and I was.
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Speaker 5: And if I would have just left it at that,
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Speaker 5: that'd have been a call. He've been forty five seconds.
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Speaker 5: But I said, man, I said, I appreciate you. And
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Speaker 5: I started by telling him how valuable he is to
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Speaker 5: our people. And I said, man, you are an absolute
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Speaker 5: living legend. And I said, when you think about black
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Speaker 5: martial artists, your name is one of the main ones
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Speaker 5: that come up, even to this very every day. I said, so,
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Speaker 5: I said, if I may say humbly, I said, you
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Speaker 5: don't have the same liberty as everybody else.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean, I said, every word that you
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Speaker 1: use holds weight.
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Speaker 5: I said, so with the influence that God gave you,
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Speaker 5: I said, you have the power to either raise somebody
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Speaker 5: up or tear them down. I said, but luckily for you,
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Speaker 5: I said, I'm validated by God, so the words of
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Speaker 5: men don't affect me.
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Speaker 1: He was like, no, that's right.
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Speaker 5: Zat He was like, but he listened, and he said, man,
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Speaker 5: it's crazy, but this is the humility that he has.
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Speaker 5: He said, you're twenty four and I'm fifty four, and
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Speaker 5: you're telling me about the power of my tongue.
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Speaker 1: He said, there's a defect that was exposed in me
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Speaker 1: that I now have to study. You didn't have to
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Speaker 1: say that he's an ogi.
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Speaker 5: He's a vet he I got to talk to this
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Speaker 5: young cat just not coming in this but he took
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Speaker 5: the humble route and I appreciate that because we was
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Speaker 5: able to mend a relationship that started off a little rocky.
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Speaker 5: But I think the way that the relationship started is
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Speaker 5: going to dictate how it ends, which is beautiful.
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Speaker 2: You've never been more nervous on a phone call because
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Speaker 2: I was on the car. I'm like, if this goal
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Speaker 2: is left, I don't know how we're going to promote
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Speaker 2: this movie.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: Like it was, it was nerve racking, but this you know,
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Speaker 2: he's such a mature soul, Like you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 2: Like you don't when you see him on his Instagram
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Speaker 2: and he's like flipping people and doing all that stuff,
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Speaker 2: you don't realize what a nice and professional young man
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Speaker 2: he is. He's very well spoken, he knows.
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Speaker 3: How to talk to people.
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Speaker 2: And so, like, I was real nervous and I was
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Speaker 2: texting his manager. I'm like, Yo, you're on the phone. Now,
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Speaker 2: this is going pretty well. But I was like, you know,
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Speaker 2: because we could go left. We have a massive cast
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Speaker 2: and the whole purpose behind the movie is unity. So
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Speaker 2: for me, it was like, Yo, we can't have no
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Speaker 2: sort of misunderstanding's going on. We got to all get
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Speaker 2: together and be on the same page to do this
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Speaker 2: for the culture. And so I'm just so thankful that
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Speaker 2: they were able to get on the phone that everybody
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Speaker 2: was We're good now.
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Speaker 5: And I think it's beautiful too, because it's a it
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Speaker 5: happened in the public so that everybody can learn from it.
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Speaker 5: And I feel like so many times we have small
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Speaker 5: disagreements and petty differences that cause us to put wedges
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Speaker 5: in between us, and it's like by small communication, it's
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Speaker 5: somebody taking the high road. Small petty differences can be
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Speaker 5: mended and we can grow to become one. So I
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Speaker 5: think it was a beautiful thing, and I feel like
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Speaker 5: it happened for a reason.
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Speaker 6: Your level of maturity and just professionalism and poise did
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Speaker 6: that come from. I know you were raised by both
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Speaker 6: of your parents, but did that also come from martial
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Speaker 6: arts at an early age?
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Speaker 1: Being though like you have to discipline.
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Speaker 3: You have to learn.
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Speaker 5: Discipline absolutely since four years old, I mean, and sometimes
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Speaker 5: some martial arts, some martial arts instructors are a little
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Speaker 5: bit more callous than others, so the method may not
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Speaker 5: be perfect, but I owe all of my martial arts
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Speaker 5: discipline to my teacher.
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Speaker 1: I mentioned them, doctor Abdualazis.
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Speaker 5: I mean he's he's such a beautiful teacher because he
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Speaker 5: doesn't teach you just with force, but with wisdom. So
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Speaker 5: he's able to blend the technical and the physical with
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Speaker 5: the spiritual. And I feel like the blend of the
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Speaker 5: two is what makes it a perfect marriage. And of
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Speaker 5: course I was raised watching and learning from the honorable
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Speaker 5: Minutester Louis Farakhan, So being under his presence and studying
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Speaker 5: and watching him has made me the man I am
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Speaker 5: today because outside of just the you know, the fighting
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Speaker 5: and you know what I'm saying, looking good, talking good,
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Speaker 5: You can talk good, but if the spirit and the
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Speaker 5: heart is not right, the words will be void. So
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Speaker 5: watching a man like that, and he actually has a
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Speaker 5: message for you all, for Charlotte Magne and the entire staff.
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Speaker 5: He wants you all to know that he loves you,
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Speaker 5: and he said he's proud of everything that you all
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Speaker 5: are doing. And despite him losing his beautiful wife, he
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Speaker 5: still has his hearts and minds thinking about you all.
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Speaker 5: So it's like he's just a beautiful soul and I
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Speaker 5: thank God so much for him and being able to
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Speaker 5: I can say be raised by him.
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Speaker 3: I saw him a few weeks ago. I went, I
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Speaker 3: flew out to the farm.
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Speaker 1: I met you. You don't even remember. I was standing
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Speaker 1: right next to it so many you know, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's crazy, bro, I didn't. I didn't introduce myself.
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Speaker 5: I was already working the things out with my uncle,
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Speaker 5: communicating with you, but I didn't want to mention it.
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Speaker 5: There I was the man, it's nice to meet you.
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Speaker 5: I'll see you soon. And of course the man could
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Speaker 5: see you brother. Then you know, you went about your business.
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Speaker 5: But yeah, I was just I met you.
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Speaker 3: That's family right there.
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Speaker 4: But listen, martial Lodge, right, what part of a person
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Speaker 4: changes first when they learned martial ARGs Is their body,
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Speaker 4: their mind, and their spirit?
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Speaker 1: That's a beautiful question. What changes first?
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Speaker 5: I would say the physical, and I feel like the
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Speaker 5: mental and the spiritual is built over time when you
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Speaker 5: when you're in it. Depending on the quality of the instructor,
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Speaker 5: I feel like that's the main thing. And if they're
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Speaker 5: teaching you properly, of course you'll condition your body in
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Speaker 5: a fighting aspect. So all of that that's cool. But
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Speaker 5: the spiritual aspect that goes with it, because you can
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Speaker 5: know martial loss. You could be the coldest thing walking physically,
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Speaker 5: but if your mind is not strong, somebody on the
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Speaker 5: street that has a strong enough will to not finish
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Speaker 5: until you're done will overcome you every single time.
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Speaker 1: So the physical aspect is okay, cool, I got that.
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Speaker 1: But the mental that takes time.
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Speaker 5: You got grand masters that still ain't got this, and
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Speaker 5: you'll watch them work and you say, oh, not that
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Speaker 5: you're judging them, but you can just see, okay, well,
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Speaker 5: there's things that he may be going on with his
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Speaker 5: personal life.
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Speaker 1: I mean, reality is real. You like to be spooky
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Speaker 1: about it. It takes time.
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Speaker 4: The reason I ask because I've been you know, I've
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Speaker 4: been reading a lot about Bruce Lee lately. And the
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Speaker 4: thing that's always intrigued me about Bruce Lee not that
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Speaker 4: he was just a great martial artist. He was a
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Speaker 4: great intellectual absolutely always. I've been more into how did
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Speaker 4: he become that intellectual?
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Speaker 1: It's the spirit man.
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Speaker 5: It's like even with the saying Bruce Lee be water,
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Speaker 5: water can float or can crash. So that's a thought
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Speaker 5: process meaning gold with the flow. How do you how
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Speaker 5: do you compare that to everyday life when you're talking
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Speaker 5: about flowing, not going against, not being callous, not being
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Speaker 5: in opposition to everything. And I'm in the space in
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Speaker 5: my life where I'm just trusting God, where if something
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Speaker 5: feels right in my spirit, where I'm not conflicted going
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Speaker 5: I'm not overthinking it, I'm not questioning it, none of that.
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Speaker 1: I'm just going with it.
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Speaker 5: And that's how I'm here today. I started off a
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Speaker 5: year ago doing this. I skipped a lot of steps
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Speaker 5: to be on the biggest podcast radio interview in the
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Speaker 5: entire world. And I appreciate you, brother for allowing me
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Speaker 5: the opportunity to grace you all's beautiful platform, because God
16:43
Speaker 5: has blessed you all to influence the minds of millions.
16:46
Speaker 5: And there's so many powerful men and women that you
16:48
Speaker 5: all have brought on here. So to be able to
16:50
Speaker 5: say that I'll see the minister right there, So to
16:53
Speaker 5: be able to say that I can, as your little brother,
16:55
Speaker 5: I'm one of those people that now can say, man,
16:57
Speaker 5: I can sit with these all gust brothers and sisters.
16:59
Speaker 5: It's like, as a little boy, I would have never
17:01
Speaker 5: thought that you're twenty four years old and you're sitting
17:04
Speaker 5: with some great giants like that. No, I would have
17:06
Speaker 5: never thought. But again, we planning, God plans, and he's
17:09
Speaker 5: the best of planets. We just got to make sure
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Speaker 5: that we're not getting in between his will by forcing it.
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Speaker 1: One of the force stuff. Let's stuff flow, man, and.
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Speaker 3: Take your real uncle. No not blood OKKKK, got you,
17:20
Speaker 3: got you as well.
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Speaker 6: He's pure me up and down she was taking and
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Speaker 6: that you sing and you doing and karate the same time.
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Speaker 1: That might be a movie that.
17:39
Speaker 3: Going on, that relationship coming back.
17:41
Speaker 5: So ever, since I was young man, he's always been
17:44
Speaker 5: a part of my life. My father, he used to
17:46
Speaker 5: travel with tank. He was always on the road without you,
17:49
Speaker 5: and you know, being you know, my father's son. You know,
17:51
Speaker 5: he always took me in as one of his own.
17:55
Speaker 5: And he's looked out for me in more ways than
17:57
Speaker 5: a lot of my real blood uncles have. Not just
18:00
Speaker 5: because they wouldn't. They wouldn't if they were in a position,
18:02
Speaker 5: but it's just you know, life. But he's always been
18:05
Speaker 5: somebody who has been extremely solid whatever I needed. I
18:08
Speaker 5: don't ask him for much, but when I do ask
18:10
Speaker 5: him for something, it's never a question, it's never a thought,
18:13
Speaker 5: it's no hesitation. It's like, nephew, whatever it is, I
18:15
Speaker 5: got you and I shared with the other day. I said,
18:19
Speaker 5: I want to let you know that I love and
18:20
Speaker 5: appreciate you.
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Speaker 1: I was like, and I.
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Speaker 5: Promised to God. I said, I'm gonna pay you back.
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Speaker 5: He said, we're not in the business of keeping tabs,
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Speaker 5: so wow, that's mine now.
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Speaker 4: He definitely reached out to make sure you was up
18:35
Speaker 4: here to talk about paper made the move him and
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Speaker 4: brother Don.
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Speaker 1: I hate Brother Don.
18:38
Speaker 5: I said, man, brother Don, can you do me a
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Speaker 5: quick solid man? I was like, I know, brother, it's
18:44
Speaker 5: busy man, But uh what I was always talking with
18:46
Speaker 5: it as a will there as a way. So you know,
18:48
Speaker 5: you've got to be persistent. You ain't gotta be no more.
18:51
Speaker 6: You seem very calculated and so intentional, like how you
18:54
Speaker 6: move in every facet of your life.
18:57
Speaker 1: Watch out for the thoughts.
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Speaker 6: No for real here knocking him down.
19:02
Speaker 1: Nation won't believe in the spook got either, And temptation
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Speaker 1: is real. You know, I'm not to say that. I
19:12
Speaker 1: just pray that I'm strong enough to keep myself.
19:16
Speaker 3: Right.
19:17
Speaker 1: That's honestly got true.
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Speaker 6: Because you're still young, you very you know you're successful.
19:22
Speaker 1: And then you're on social media. You can talk to
19:26
Speaker 1: anybody the.
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Speaker 6: Crazy yes, talk about you can fight like you know,
19:31
Speaker 6: like you said you was in a flow state.
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Speaker 3: They like.
19:41
Speaker 2: By the way, when I when I saw his video
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Speaker 2: in the mosque where he was outside doing the demo,
19:46
Speaker 2: I saw the people who I know who will remain nameless,
19:49
Speaker 2: who do nothing with martial arts ever, they like liking
19:52
Speaker 2: the posts and stuff like that. So it just set
19:54
Speaker 2: like a real impression. That's something about seeing this dude
19:57
Speaker 2: in that suit be able to knock somebody yet like that.
20:01
Speaker 2: It's like like people like it.
20:02
Speaker 3: And everybody say this.
20:04
Speaker 5: A woman's in her nature. She wants to be protected
20:08
Speaker 5: her nature. She wants to be with somebody that can
20:11
Speaker 5: defend her and her family.
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Speaker 1: Period.
20:13
Speaker 5: So if a woman can see strength in a man, young, handsome, charismatic, intellectual,
20:18
Speaker 5: whatever you want to say, but the core nature of
20:21
Speaker 5: a woman wanting to be taken care of and provided
20:24
Speaker 5: for her nature starts to wow, especially in the world
20:29
Speaker 5: like this where that's like a it's a rarity. You know,
20:32
Speaker 5: they say, you cut from a cloth that don't exist
20:34
Speaker 5: no more. It's like that they didn't made a whole
20:36
Speaker 5: new cloth that I don't want nothing to do with
20:39
Speaker 5: at all, right, right, you know, oh yes, sir, it
20:45
Speaker 5: will get to that. But but yeah, man, yeah, the
20:49
Speaker 5: sisters man make God bless them.
20:53
Speaker 3: Her seminar. Yeah.
20:54
Speaker 5: So while I'm out here, I'm doing a seminar at
20:57
Speaker 5: my beautiful brother's name is brother has his brother He
21:00
Speaker 5: actually has a beautiful school. And I posted about a
21:03
Speaker 5: seminar two days ago. Most people they do SEMINARSS months
21:06
Speaker 5: in advance planning, and it's just got the spirit. I said,
21:08
Speaker 5: let's just see what happens. Got a lot of love
21:10
Speaker 5: on the East Coast, and his brother blessed me to
21:13
Speaker 5: utilize his dojo. What's the name of Elite Martial Arts
21:17
Speaker 5: of Brooklyn, right, beautiful beautiful school fifteen thousand square feet
21:21
Speaker 5: and he has a lot of young children that he's
21:24
Speaker 5: speaking on that same thing that you talked about leadership
21:26
Speaker 5: guidance example. So to be able to have my first
21:30
Speaker 5: seminar ever in the mecca of black martial arts in
21:33
Speaker 5: New York, that's amazing. And I may get hate for
21:36
Speaker 5: saying this. I don't like New York, Lord, and I'm
21:39
Speaker 5: gonna say I'm gonna be honest, So.
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Speaker 1: Good bro, brother, and can I keep it on it,
21:48
Speaker 1: of course.
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Speaker 3: Man.
21:50
Speaker 5: I was walking down the street yesterday, Man, people was
21:52
Speaker 5: bumping into me, people yelling. The traffic is crazy. I'm
21:57
Speaker 5: smelling pea everywhere. How do y'all live here? Willingly like
22:02
Speaker 5: there's anywhere you can go in the world, But I
22:04
Speaker 5: know there's something about a New York.
22:06
Speaker 1: It is like if I was born here, that's where
22:07
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die. And I get it. That's loyalty.
22:10
Speaker 5: But if you live your life in a cage and
22:13
Speaker 5: you have the whole world at your disposal, I hope
22:16
Speaker 5: you all branch out in.
22:17
Speaker 1: Damn you rom I'm from Chicago.
22:20
Speaker 3: Chicago, that's right. Shot Chago a much better than part too.
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Speaker 5: Though. All right, if you can't fight, they got switches
22:38
Speaker 5: in Chicago. I ain't fighting, no bullets, we ain't doing that.
22:43
Speaker 3: I get it.
22:43
Speaker 5: But I'll be feeling so protective. Man, I'm telling you, man,
22:46
Speaker 5: God keep me away from all of that. I ain't
22:47
Speaker 5: never seen nobody get shot. I ain't never seen nobody
22:50
Speaker 5: put a gun out on nobody. I just I've never
22:52
Speaker 5: seen it. I've never seen nobody robbed. Yeah, it's just
22:55
Speaker 5: head of protection.
22:56
Speaker 3: I guess.
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Speaker 4: I think martial law teaches you more about avoiding fights.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, how to fight your wise brother man lived a
23:06
Speaker 5: little No, not for sure us hit on the head.
23:09
Speaker 5: Don't really got to go too much more into it.
23:10
Speaker 5: But it's one thing the Minister talked about this. He said,
23:13
Speaker 5: it's one thing to have power to destroy, and that's
23:17
Speaker 5: another thing to know how to refrain from using it.
23:19
Speaker 5: It's like when you know what you can do to somebody,
23:22
Speaker 5: and it's like if somebody just say the wrong thing,
23:24
Speaker 5: look at you wrong, or they bump into you, or
23:27
Speaker 5: they run off at the mouth and in your face.
23:29
Speaker 5: It's like the discipline to be able to withhold yourself
23:32
Speaker 5: in that state and have enough love for that person
23:35
Speaker 5: to let them go now if they put your hands
23:37
Speaker 5: on you, if they put their hands on you with
23:39
Speaker 5: malicious intent. Yeah, but I think also verbal abuse to
23:45
Speaker 5: a degree too, depending on how close you're getting with
23:48
Speaker 5: the verbal abuse.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna wait for you to swing on me.
23:52
Speaker 1: It's gonna do what I do. What I do.
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Speaker 2: Show right now, you know, don't.
24:05
Speaker 1: I can't show you a little lock or something real quickly.
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Speaker 3: Here.
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Speaker 1: Youin't got a movie. I wouldn't do it.
24:10
Speaker 5: Shook my hand. So a lot of times I just
24:13
Speaker 5: did a video I got like five million views.
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Speaker 3: Right.
24:15
Speaker 5: It was dealing with somebody shaking the hand. Now, if
24:18
Speaker 5: they shake your hand and you try to pull your
24:20
Speaker 5: hand away and they may be setting you up for
24:23
Speaker 5: somebody else to snake you, whatever the case may mean,
24:25
Speaker 5: all you do is take the thumb and go down.
24:28
Speaker 5: And what that does is the joint is now separated,
24:31
Speaker 5: and that can set you up for some other things.
24:33
Speaker 5: Of Course, I won't do a sitting down unless you
24:35
Speaker 5: want to stand up, and I can show you.
24:36
Speaker 3: I've seen that cop from Detroit. You know, remember the
24:46
Speaker 3: the cop little Chubby. He showed the thing people come
24:49
Speaker 3: with the gun. He does the thing with the hands
24:51
Speaker 3: to hurt your hands. I believe. I believe paper made ladies.
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Speaker 3: Can they watch it?
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Speaker 2: Made?
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Speaker 3: The movie? Pay You've made?
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Speaker 2: The movie is going to debut in Tampa August twenty eighth.
25:04
Speaker 2: We had a taxing center from the city of Tampa
25:06
Speaker 2: to do the movie there, so we got to do
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Speaker 2: our due diligence and make sure we put on for
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Speaker 2: the people there to get our tax in center back.
25:13
Speaker 2: And we're currently in conversations with distributors open the land somewhere.
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Speaker 2: We'll definitely do some theater releasing this fall, so everyone
25:21
Speaker 2: should definitely follow our Instagram page Paper Made Movie on
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Speaker 2: ig we're gonna be having all the announcements there.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely comment.
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Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us, brother Brian Watchinson Jaya It's
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Speaker 4: the Breakfast Club.
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