Latest / MSKMag OutLoud / Focus on POCUS: Not as Black and White as It Looks
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- 0:03SPEAKER_00: Focus on Pocus, not as black and white as it looks.
- 0:07SPEAKER_00: Written by Dominic Smith.
- 0:10SPEAKER_00: Sponsored by PhysiQuip.
- 0:13In the UK,
- 0:14more clinicians are taking the plunge into MSK point-of-care
- 0:17ultrasound.
- 0:18SPEAKER_00: POCUS.
- 0:19SPEAKER_00: The buzz is real.
- 0:21SPEAKER_00: Some are seeing it as the modern MSK clinic's next essential tool,
- 0:24SPEAKER_00: while others raise their eyebrows at how practical it truly is,
- 0:28asking whether it is just another expensive thing we can charge
- 0:31more money for.
- 0:32SPEAKER_00: Either way, it's here and growing fast.
- 0:36SPEAKER_00: Our social media feeds are showing packed out courses.
- 0:39There are countless ads for devices and videos and images being
- 0:42shared with a story
- 0:43whilst we squint at these images pretending to know what
- 0:45they're looking at.
- 0:47SPEAKER_00: So what is the real story?
- 0:48SPEAKER_00: How do you learn Pocus?
- 0:50SPEAKER_00: What should you keep your eye on?
- 0:51SPEAKER_00: We are going to go on a journey and look at it through three lenses.
- 0:55SPEAKER_00: One, the beginner stepping into the unknown.
- 0:58SPEAKER_00: Two, the educator guiding new learners.
- 1:01Three,
- 1:02and me,
- 1:03the industry insider who's seen behind both the probe and the
- 1:06sales pitch.
- 1:07SPEAKER_00: So why are we talking about POCUS?
- 1:10SPEAKER_00: We can't ignore it anymore.
- 1:11SPEAKER_00: Diagnostic imaging as a whole is a staple part of our industry.
- 1:15SPEAKER_00: Whether you are performing the scans or not,
- 1:16SPEAKER_00: you will likely have referred someone for one at some point.
- 1:19The wonderful aspect of POCUS is that it gives you real-time
- 1:22dynamic imaging and
- 1:23SPEAKER_00: elevates your diagnostic confidence.
- 1:25Rob Bevan,
- 1:26a chiropractor just starting out in ultrasound,
- 1:28puts it like this.
- 1:30My interest in exploring POCUS stems from a desire to enhance
- 1:33diagnostic accuracy,
- 1:34SPEAKER_00: clinical reasoning,
- 1:35SPEAKER_00: and patient communication.
- 1:37SPEAKER_00: In a busy clinic, Rob sees how timely imaging can change the play.
- 1:42SPEAKER_00: Clarifying a working diagnosis,
- 1:44SPEAKER_00: spotting red flags earlier,
- 1:45SPEAKER_00: or simply helping patients visualise what we're thinking.
- 1:48SPEAKER_00: For him, ultrasound isn't a replacement for skills, it's a step up.
- 1:53SPEAKER_00: I see it as a way to strengthen my ability to form clear,
- 1:56evidence-based management plans and improve patient confidence
- 1:59in the process.
- 2:01SPEAKER_00: Mike Bryant,
- 2:02SPEAKER_00: a physiotherapist,
- 2:03SPEAKER_00: sonographer and experienced educator,
- 2:05SPEAKER_00: has watched the landscape dramatically change.
- 2:07SPEAKER_00: He describes ultrasound as a technical skill of probe manipulation,
- 2:12anatomical knowledge and pattern recognition – a skill that you
- 2:15must master by
- 2:16SPEAKER_00: doing,
- 2:16SPEAKER_00: not watching.
- 2:17SPEAKER_00: From my standpoint in the industry,
- 2:19SPEAKER_00: being a sports therapist,
- 2:20SPEAKER_00: BSC,
- 2:21working within the device sales industry offers a rare insight
- 2:24into how both worlds
- 2:25SPEAKER_00: operate.
- 2:27SPEAKER_00: Understanding the clinical nuances of using diagnostic ultrasound,
- 2:30but also the business realities that clinics face when
- 2:33investing in new technology,
- 2:34SPEAKER_00: helps me to separate the hype from the helpful.
- 2:38The sector is developing quickly with more models and
- 2:40variations coming onto the
- 2:41SPEAKER_00: market seemingly every week,
- 2:43SPEAKER_00: and it is hard to keep track and hard to know who to trust.
- 2:47SPEAKER_00: The reality check.
- 2:49SPEAKER_00: Spoiler alert, POCUS isn't plug and play.
- 2:52SPEAKER_00: I learned that very early on.
- 2:54SPEAKER_00: Everything just looks the same at first.
- 2:56SPEAKER_00: For beginners, the screen might as well be snow.
- 2:58Rob expects a steep curve of understanding anatomy from an
- 3:02ultrasound perspective,
- 3:04SPEAKER_00: and he knows his consultations might slow down while he gets comfortable.
- 3:07SPEAKER_00: Mike agrees.
- 3:08The biggest misconception is that it's going to be an easy
- 3:11process and that they'll
- 3:12SPEAKER_00: be proficient after a couple of courses.
- 3:14SPEAKER_00: He warns,
- 3:15it takes time and dedication to grasp the probe skills and the
- 3:18detailed anatomical
- 3:19SPEAKER_00: knowledge.
- 3:20SPEAKER_00: His useful tip is simple.
- 3:22SPEAKER_00: Learn to scan normal anatomy before hunting pathology.
- 3:26From the supplier's side,
- 3:27I see how technology creates the illusion of ease.
- 3:30SPEAKER_00: Handheld devices have made ultrasound look easy.
- 3:32SPEAKER_00: You plug it into a tablet, start scanning, and it seems simple.
- 3:35SPEAKER_00: But that simplicity can be misleading.
- 3:38SPEAKER_00: Back in January 2023,
- 3:39a UK qualitative study emphasized that POCUS implementation
- 3:44faces challenges,
- 3:45SPEAKER_00: including the need for proper training,
- 3:46SPEAKER_00: education,
- 3:47SPEAKER_00: and quality assurance frameworks.
- 3:49Her proposed framework for MSK POCUS by physiotherapists
- 3:52highlights the importance
- 3:53SPEAKER_00: of integrated scope of practice,
- 3:55SPEAKER_00: education and governance solutions.
- 3:58The takeaway POCUS is a skill built with patience,
- 4:01repetition and humility.
- 4:02SPEAKER_00: We all begin with fuzzy images.
- 4:04SPEAKER_00: It's the practice that sharpens the view.
- 4:07SPEAKER_00: Mentorship, guidance, and the art of feedback.
- 4:10SPEAKER_00: Here's what truly matters.
- 4:11SPEAKER_00: The people you surround yourself with.
- 4:13SPEAKER_00: Not just a flashy, fancy machine.
- 4:16Rob's values training where there's a supportive,
- 4:19structured training environment.
- 4:21Small groups,
- 4:21experienced tutors,
- 4:22and plenty of low pressure scanning opportunities.
- 4:25Mike has seen and guided many clinicians through the
- 4:27educational pathway and has
- 4:28SPEAKER_00: witnessed the evolution of courses.
- 4:30SPEAKER_00: Initially,
- 4:31there were very few courses you could attend to get close
- 4:33supervision with experts,
- 4:34SPEAKER_00: he recalls.
- 4:35Now I try to keep sessions small and simple with as much
- 4:38scanning time as possible.
- 4:40SPEAKER_00: He designs his courses accordingly.
- 4:43Learning in small sessions and going back to the same area and
- 4:46scanning it again
- 4:47SPEAKER_00: really helps,
- 4:47SPEAKER_00: he says.
- 4:48SPEAKER_00: He's a fan of the online two-minute video demos that you can pause,
- 4:52SPEAKER_00: replay and practice at your own pace.
- 4:55But he also reminds learners not to get fixated on diagnosing
- 4:58the amazing tendon
- 4:59SPEAKER_00: tear on day one.
- 5:01The main challenge for most learners is getting regular
- 5:04supervision and remembering
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: to enjoy the process,
- 5:07SPEAKER_00: not rushing to find pathology.
- 5:10Most conditions I speak to care more about training and
- 5:12educational support than
- 5:13SPEAKER_00: features and benefits.
- 5:14SPEAKER_00: For me,
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: good suppliers aren't just selling a system,
- 5:17they should help you on your journey and make sure you get the
- 5:19most out of your
- 5:20SPEAKER_00: investment.
- 5:21SPEAKER_00: In short, learning POCUS is like planting a garden.
- 5:24SPEAKER_00: You need good soil, regular water and some time.
- 5:27SPEAKER_00: The seeds don't sprout overnight.
- 5:30SPEAKER_00: The technology?
- 5:31SPEAKER_00: A blessing or a distraction?
- 5:34SPEAKER_00: Ultrasound tech has come a long way.
- 5:36What once filled a room now fits in a backpack or even in your
- 5:39back pocket.
- 5:40Mike observes that this shift has enabled access to more MSK
- 5:43clinicians and made
- 5:45SPEAKER_00: the cost feasible for many more practices.
- 5:47SPEAKER_00: But don't be fooled.
- 5:49SPEAKER_00: From where I sit,
- 5:49SPEAKER_00: yes,
- 5:50SPEAKER_00: accessibility has exploded,
- 5:52SPEAKER_00: which is great,
- 5:53but aggressive marketing can make focus appear deceptively
- 5:56simple to learn and lead
- 5:57SPEAKER_00: you into a false sense of security.
- 6:00I'm asked all the time,
- 6:02do you have any demo units or what is your best price?
- 6:04SPEAKER_00: I appreciate some are on a budget,
- 6:06SPEAKER_00: but if that is your main concern,
- 6:08SPEAKER_00: hang fire on your Pocus journey.
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: Your focus above all else should be image quality.
- 6:13SPEAKER_00: If you're new to Pocus, it's safe to say you will be...
- 6:18SPEAKER_00: Shit.
- 6:19SPEAKER_00: Try and cut costs.
- 6:21SPEAKER_00: You may get a shit machine, meaning you will likely be double shit.
- 6:27Simply,
- 6:27if the image isn't clear,
- 6:29everything else becomes harder and way more expensive.
- 6:33SPEAKER_00: But consider the other side where Mike hits the nail on the head.
- 6:37SPEAKER_00: The best probe slash device in the world cannot fix a bad operator.
- 6:40SPEAKER_00: You must learn the craft before the tech.
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: I also stress the responsibility to suppliers in this equation.
- 6:46For me,
- 6:47we are just as responsible for offering good care and services
- 6:50to patients.
- 6:50SPEAKER_00: Of course,
- 6:51SPEAKER_00: we have sales targets to meet,
- 6:52SPEAKER_00: but I have seen this blind the reps to just getting a sale done.
- 6:56This short-sightedness risks compromising both clinician
- 7:00confidence and patient
- 7:01safety as clients may not be getting the appropriate system for
- 7:04their needs or the
- 7:05SPEAKER_00: necessary support and device training.
- 7:07SPEAKER_00: So yes, join the tech revolution, but keep your brain switched on.
- 7:10SPEAKER_00: This is not something to be rushed.
- 7:14SPEAKER_00: Time, patience and realism.
- 7:16SPEAKER_00: Here's what I tell newcomers.
- 7:17SPEAKER_00: The biggest investment isn't money, it's time.
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: Rob gets this.
- 7:22SPEAKER_00: I know consistency will be key.
- 7:24Building a mental library of normal appearances takes scanning
- 7:26again and again.
- 7:28SPEAKER_00: Mike has seen the drop off.
- 7:29People come back after six months and realise they've forgotten
- 7:32half of it.
- 7:32SPEAKER_00: Keep the probe in your hand.
- 7:34SPEAKER_00: Even five minutes a day matters.
- 7:36SPEAKER_00: And from the business side,
- 7:37SPEAKER_00: clinicians are great at asking for training,
- 7:39SPEAKER_00: but considerably underestimate how much ongoing support they'll need.
- 7:43SPEAKER_00: Ultrasound is a long-term investment.
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: It isn't like Shockwave,
- 7:45SPEAKER_00: where you can just buy a machine and go,
- 7:47SPEAKER_00: you're buying into a new lifelong skill.
- 7:51SPEAKER_00: In practice,
- 7:51this may mean you have to squeeze in scanning sessions between
- 7:54patients or grabbing
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: your wife,
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: husband,
- 7:56SPEAKER_00: brother or mother to scan them.
- 7:58Pro tip,
- 7:59if practicing on family members,
- 8:00keep them sweet and feed them with treats.
- 8:03SPEAKER_00: Even years down the line,
- 8:04it's good to practice to revisit the basics regularly and stay
- 8:07humble when the
- 8:08SPEAKER_00: images are muddy.
- 8:10SPEAKER_00: Ethics, confidence and the limits of POCUS.
- 8:12SPEAKER_00: The governance and ethics side of things comes into focus with POCUS.
- 8:17SPEAKER_00: Who can you scan?
- 8:18SPEAKER_00: What can you scan?
- 8:19SPEAKER_00: What can you say slash not say?
- 8:21SPEAKER_00: These are just some of the questions.
- 8:23SPEAKER_00: Having more access means more responsibility.
- 8:25SPEAKER_00: Rob is mindful of this.
- 8:27It's about integrating findings meaningfully,
- 8:29not scanning for scanning's sake.
- 8:30SPEAKER_00: And Mike agrees.
- 8:32SPEAKER_00: Penitions want to use it on every patient, but sometimes less is more.
- 8:36SPEAKER_00: Ultrasound is a supplement, not the main event.
- 8:38SPEAKER_00: POCUS comes after a subjective and objective assessment, not before.
- 8:43SPEAKER_00: There's a fine line between being enthusiastic and being overconfident.
- 8:47SPEAKER_00: The technology is improving faster than the regulations,
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: which means clinicians need to act responsibly.
- 8:52SPEAKER_00: Governance will catch up for sure,
- 8:54SPEAKER_00: but in the meantime,
- 8:54SPEAKER_00: as mentioned earlier,
- 8:55SPEAKER_00: surround yourself with good people to help guide you.
- 8:58SPEAKER_00: And again,
- 8:59I stress the responsibility on those in the industry to know
- 9:02the regulations and
- 9:02SPEAKER_00: not pass it off as the responsibility of the clinician.
- 9:05SPEAKER_00: We are in this together.
- 9:07SPEAKER_00: Yes,
- 9:07SPEAKER_00: you can do more with POCUS,
- 9:09SPEAKER_00: but you all must also know when to stop,
- 9:11SPEAKER_00: refer and seek a second opinion.
- 9:14SPEAKER_00: where POCUS is heading.
- 9:16SPEAKER_00: Looking ahead, I'm optimistic.
- 9:18SPEAKER_00: POCUS use in the UK is growing fast, especially in private MSK practice.
- 9:22AI features are already creeping in to help with image
- 9:24interpretation and workflow.
- 9:26SPEAKER_00: But beware, these fancy features can be a blessing and a curse.
- 9:30SPEAKER_00: Remember Mike's wise words, you must learn the craft, not the tech.
- 9:35Mike has seen how the community is growing as well and how it
- 9:38is bringing people
- 9:39SPEAKER_00: together and inspiring growth.
- 9:40SPEAKER_00: Courses, workshops, peer groups, it's a community now.
- 9:43SPEAKER_00: People learn faster when they share.
- 9:45SPEAKER_00: Rob describes his own path.
- 9:48SPEAKER_00: In the longer term,
- 9:49I see ultrasound becoming an integral part of my professional
- 9:51development and
- 9:52SPEAKER_00: clinical identity.
- 9:53It allows me to offer more precise assessments and communicate
- 9:56findings visually with patients.
- 9:58SPEAKER_00: In short, if you start this journey now, you're getting in early.
- 10:01SPEAKER_00: This isn't just a shiny gadget.
- 10:02You're investing in yourself and your patients and gearing up
- 10:06to become part of how
- 10:07SPEAKER_00: MSK clinics operate.
- 10:11SPEAKER_00: Key takeaways from the three of us.
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: One, prioritise the fundamentals.
- 10:14SPEAKER_00: Probe handling, anatomy, pattern recognition.
- 10:18SPEAKER_00: Two, be kind to yourself.
- 10:20During the learning,
- 10:20curved confidence will go up and down and that's okay.
- 10:24SPEAKER_00: Three, commit to time and practice.
- 10:26SPEAKER_00: Regular scanning and regular workshops beat one big weekend course.
- 10:30SPEAKER_00: Four, have governance and a referral slash second opinion pathway.
- 10:34SPEAKER_00: Pocus doesn't stand alone and you will need support.
- 10:37SPEAKER_00: Five, buy cheap, buy twice.
- 10:40SPEAKER_00: If you must, wait and save.
- 10:41SPEAKER_00: Image quality is paramount.
- 10:43SPEAKER_00: Skimp on the system, you skimp on the image.
- 10:45SPEAKER_00: Don't be double shit.
- 10:48SPEAKER_00: Final Reflections.
- 10:50SPEAKER_00: POCUS isn't just about seeing what's inside a joint or a tendon.
- 10:53SPEAKER_00: It's about curiosity,
- 10:54SPEAKER_00: patience and learning how to interpret shades of grey,
- 10:57SPEAKER_00: both literally and figuratively.
- 10:59It's a tool that rewards time and humility where confidence
- 11:02grows quietly through repetition.
- 11:04SPEAKER_00: The first scans are often frustrating.
- 11:06SPEAKER_00: Anatomy will look alien.
- 11:07SPEAKER_00: The image drifts and changes.
- 11:09SPEAKER_00: Even the simplest probe angle feels like a riddle.
- 11:11SPEAKER_00: But as our three perspectives show,
- 11:13SPEAKER_00: the beginner gains understanding,
- 11:15SPEAKER_00: the teacher guides progress,
- 11:16SPEAKER_00: and the industry insider brings perspective.
- 11:19SPEAKER_00: At its best, POCUS doesn't replace assessment or instinct.
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: It sharpens them.
- 11:23SPEAKER_00: It helps conditions see what they've always known was there,
- 11:26SPEAKER_00: only now with a bit more clarity and a lot more grey.