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'Supreme' is not a Synonym for 'Correct' (Saturday, March 07, 2026, Hour 3) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 5: Appreciate that, Jerry.
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Speaker 5: He asks, how do you assimilate a death cult like
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Speaker 5: the Islamists? I heard match Lap talking about the mosques.
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Speaker 5: How do you work around a freedom of religion with
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Speaker 5: a religion that believes in killing people? Well, all right,
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Speaker 5: so I mean it's just we may have to unpack
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Speaker 5: this a little further because we do have our first
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Speaker 5: things coming up. But the first thing you do is
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Speaker 5: you say you have a freedom of religion, and our
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Speaker 5: freedoms in this country only go as far as the
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Speaker 5: place where it violates someone else's freedoms. So you have
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Speaker 5: the freedom to support whatever religion you want until it
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Speaker 5: infringes someone else's rights, like the right to live, so
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Speaker 5: you don't have the right to do that. You have
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Speaker 5: the right of free speech. One of the dangerous slopes
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Speaker 5: there is what are you teaching the kids? Because if
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Speaker 5: you give the authority to the government to come in
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Speaker 5: and say you're teaching the kids something we don't like,
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Speaker 5: where does that end? Where does that opportunity? So you
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Speaker 5: have to be very careful how you regulate what is
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Speaker 5: getting taught in school. You can't teach somebody you know
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Speaker 5: that somebody else is inherently bad just because of their
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Speaker 5: religious beliefs. Although we're told that doctor Ibramex Kendy's teachings
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Speaker 5: of anti racism is all the rage, so you can't
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Speaker 5: have it both ways. You have to be very careful.
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Speaker 5: It's a good question, though, Jerry, and maybe we need
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Speaker 5: to poke around it a little bit further, but we
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Speaker 5: do need to tell everyone of the first things. This morning,
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Speaker 5: Iran's President Masud Perusekian has apologized, or at least said,
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Speaker 5: perhaps I should apologize to all the Arab countries. He's
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Speaker 5: been just spraying missiles at since last Saturday, and the
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Speaker 5: US and Israeli combined bombardment of Tehran. Israeli warplanes, by
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Speaker 5: the way, continue to attack Beirut and Tehran, both on
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Speaker 5: either side of their front. President Trump addressing a situation
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Speaker 5: that many people were claiming was an urban legend or
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Speaker 5: an Internet conspiracy, but apparently he needed to sit down
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Speaker 5: with the CEOs of several major defense manufacturers and get
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Speaker 5: them to produce four times the amount of the weaponry
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Speaker 5: they need. There was a shortage or a looming shortage
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Speaker 5: in ordinance. A spokesperson for Iran's Revolutionary Guard has picked
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Speaker 5: up the gauntlet thrown down by President Trump, who on
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Speaker 5: Thursday suggested he would deploy the US Navy to escort
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Speaker 5: oil tankers through the Strait of Hormuz. Ali Mohammad Naiini said,
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Speaker 5: we recommend that before making any decision, the Americans remember
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Speaker 5: the fire on the American super tanker Bridgerton in nineteen
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Speaker 5: eighty seven. The food get to the second finished with
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Speaker 5: the Iran arc. President Trump said that the US ground
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Speaker 5: invasion of Iran would be a waste of time because
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Speaker 5: they've already decimated their forces. However, Admiral Bradley Cooper, commander
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Speaker 5: of the US Central Command, said that more than thirty
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Speaker 5: Iranian warships have been sunk since Operation Epic Fury began
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Speaker 5: last Saturday. We now find out, though, through combined reports
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Speaker 5: made deities. These are all things that the Ten Commandment says,
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Speaker 5: if you do it, it's a mortal sin. So is
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Speaker 5: it any want that we have a society full of
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Speaker 5: people doing that. But on the subject of Iran, a
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Speaker 5: couple of things, Ray writes in brilliant email as I
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Speaker 5: expect none less from Ray. Good show. But I don't
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Speaker 5: horn Rus that involved a portage across Syria and Lebanon,
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Speaker 5: an area infested by Arabs and Turks which was not
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Speaker 5: very practical at the time. Ray, I appreciate it. I
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Speaker 5: was basing some of this and I'm just going to
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Speaker 5: read one of the scholarly pieces on this. This is
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Speaker 5: the Strait of Horne Moves to the Suez Canal and
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Speaker 5: are even attempting the passage around the Cape Town area
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Speaker 5: of Africa because of the fights going on around the
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Speaker 5: Strait of Horne Moves. So the shippers are already saying,
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Speaker 5: while this goes on in the Middle East, we're not
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Speaker 5: just going to eliminate the Strait of hort Moves, We're
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Speaker 5: going to skip the Suez Canal as well. Now that's
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Speaker 5: going to add costs and time and things like that
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Speaker 5: to the logistics of getting things like twenty percent of
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Speaker 5: the world's oil out of that area. But that was
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Speaker 5: they had shrugged and just said I'll let the Arabs
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Speaker 5: do it was sufficient during the seventies, So I appreciate it,
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Speaker 5: Ray for the email on that This one, Mark writes
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Speaker 5: Your color that was saying the Supreme Court was just wrong?
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Speaker 5: What kind of society if our final judge and jury
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Speaker 5: on a case can be considered wrong? That's the very anarchy.
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Speaker 5: It seems like you're trying to avoid, mister Thomas. Well,
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Speaker 5: the problem with Supreme courts is that they are often wrong.
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Speaker 5: And here's why they're wrong. Because they are human and
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Speaker 5: they live in the real world with other humans, and
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Speaker 5: they don't want to be unpopular, so they often give
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Speaker 5: in too popular opinion, sometimes even popular political opinion, based
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Speaker 5: on who endorsed them for that position. Great case in
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Speaker 5: point is the Virginia Act for sterilization. You say, hold
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Speaker 5: on Virginia, was it? Yeah? So Virginia had a law,
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Speaker 5: and it wasn't alone. There were other laws, as just
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Speaker 5: happens to be the one that famously got in front
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Speaker 5: of Oliver Wendel Holmes and the United States Supreme Court.
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Speaker 5: The case was called Buck versus Bell, and the young
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Speaker 5: black woman was going to be sterilized because her family
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Speaker 5: had been on public assistance for too long, and when
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Speaker 5: you were in public assistance back in the twenties, you
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Speaker 5: got put into an asylum. We don't even put crazy
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Speaker 5: people in asylums anymore. Back then we would just and
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Speaker 5: part of the reason they would commit these habitual public
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Speaker 5: assistance needs into asylums is that they felt that it
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Speaker 5: was indicative of being a lay about about being a miscreant,
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Speaker 5: and that is a mental health issue. So you were
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Speaker 5: committed to an asylum if you needed public assistance for
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Speaker 5: too long or too much. Trouble with this was it
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Speaker 5: was written by white people who had already written laws
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Speaker 5: that restricted where black people could get work. You see
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Speaker 5: how this is like a tube of eposy. One only
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Speaker 5: works the other and then we get to kill the
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Speaker 5: black people because at that point the government had made
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Speaker 5: it pretty clear they frowned on rounding up black people
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Speaker 5: and hanging them from trees. So now he has had
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Speaker 5: to come up with a way to sterilize them. Very Egyptian.
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Speaker 5: And this law that said the Virginia government, if somebody
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Speaker 5: had been on public assistance too long, could be taken
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Speaker 5: to a doctor and had their reproductive organs snipped off
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Speaker 5: without even wanting to be transgender. I mean, my gosh,
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Speaker 5: was legal. And Carrie Buck challenged this in court and
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Speaker 5: made it all the way to the Supreme Court, in
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Speaker 5: which Oliver Wendell Holmes issued his famous ruling that three
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Speaker 5: generations of imbeciles are enough and ruled that Virginia was
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Speaker 5: constitutionally within their rights to sterilize her own citizens. That
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Speaker 5: law simply says, well more recently than you'd like to think,
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Speaker 5: been repealed in the Virginia General Assembly. But you see
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Speaker 5: Court finding, because the Supreme Court justices don't want to
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Speaker 5: go to the golf course, or to the movie theater,
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Speaker 5: people who are on the other side saying you are
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Speaker 5: you protecting all the black people?
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Speaker 15: Huh?
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Speaker 5: So they went along with popular opinion rather than the law.
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Speaker 5: And sometimes it's hubris. Sometimes they want to believe we
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Speaker 5: are the law. That may have been the case in
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Speaker 5: had earlier Christine Schernowski. It's media Pedia, and I'm frustrated
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Speaker 5: a lot. We were talking earlier about the lack of
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Speaker 5: coverage of the celebrations regarding the end of the Ayatola's
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Speaker 5: Am I off base to be complaining about that? Have
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Speaker 5: you seen it?
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Speaker 12: Well?
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Speaker 3: First, let me start by saying you're absolutely right.
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Speaker 3: But it's important that we do that because.
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Speaker 15: The media has such an important role in how history
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Speaker 15: do a comparison of how the media has covered actions
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Speaker 15: within the Trump administration versus when they've done it with
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Speaker 15: other administrations. So in Iran, they've been very critical of
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Speaker 15: So the coverage certainly has been uneven in that regard,
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Speaker 5: Well, and you know, it was interesting. On Friday, I
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32:41
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Speaker 15: Well, I think you also touch on another interesting point,
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33:54
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Speaker 3: So here's an example.
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34:36
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Speaker 15: I think the average American would probably be surprised by
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Speaker 5: But they're just seeing the debate, not what comes before it,
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Speaker 5: and often, you know, their own getting a SoundBite or two,
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Speaker 5: not the full discussion. Which is certainly fair to say
35:05
Speaker 5: that if we had wanted to, you know, do more
35:08
Speaker 5: of this, you know, waiting as long as we did
35:10
Speaker 5: didn't help, you know, in nineteen seventy eight, seventy nine, right,
35:14
Speaker 5: you know what was going on? Yeah, and that kind
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35:27
Speaker 3: I've seen no reporting on that.
35:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. So, so there are places where you could
35:32
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35:42
Speaker 5: if you will, so you can have that coverage. I
35:45
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35:49
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35:53
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35:55
Speaker 5: which is what I'm getting from from your piece. You know,
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Speaker 5: public policy? Uh we've already heard the president say that,
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Speaker 5: uh he he wants to see who the next Ayatola
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36:23
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Speaker 5: Visiting with Christine Chernowski from media Pedia, and uh, you know,
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Speaker 5: I want to find out what's going on here in
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Speaker 5: the story and that might be a more lucrative pursuit,
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Speaker 5: but I don't think it helps the American people know
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Speaker 5: what's going on.
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Speaker 3: It certainly doesn't.
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Speaker 15: That is why we created mediapedia dot org because bias
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Speaker 15: is inherent. Everyone comes at life and different issues with
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Speaker 15: different perspectives. The problem is when journalists claim to be
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Speaker 15: objective and clearly they're not. And so you know, at
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Speaker 15: media Pedia we're exposing that bias through our ratings.
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Speaker 3: We have a proprietary model that measures.
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Speaker 15: A reporter's body of work and then based on that
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Speaker 15: determines what a rating is how far left they lean.
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Speaker 15: And it's interesting because almost every journalist at a legacy
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Speaker 15: media does in fact lean left, yet they claim that
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Speaker 15: they're objective. So I think it's really important to hold
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Speaker 15: these people accountable.
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Speaker 5: Right, And I didn't mean to drag you into the
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Speaker 5: president's policy. What I was getting at when I brought
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Speaker 5: up the president's statements on the MALLA is that it
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Speaker 5: seems like he also watches the media. So if the
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Speaker 5: president is seeing, you know, people saying, oh, you know,
47:08
Speaker 5: this is a great guy, we need to make sure
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Speaker 5: that you know, all this information is fair and fair
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Speaker 5: and balanced. If that's you know, can we use that
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Speaker 5: phrase now?
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Speaker 15: I think you've got to present all sides, right, And
47:26
Speaker 15: you know, he was Connie was not someone that we
47:29
Speaker 15: should praise.
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Speaker 5: Killed ten thousand of his own countrymen because they were
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Speaker 5: protesting him. And that's the part that it's almost like
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Speaker 5: those protests didn't exist. And at the same time, I
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Speaker 5: had one media person confront me about it, saying, well,
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Speaker 5: how am I critical of the protests in Minnesota and
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Speaker 5: and support the protests in Iran? I said, how are
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Speaker 5: you making that moral equivalency? And I guess that's also
47:58
Speaker 5: part of what drives you at media Pedia is you've
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Speaker 5: got reporters making moral equivalencies in their decision as to
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Speaker 5: what to cover and what not to cover.
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Speaker 15: Absolutely, and the things that are not covered also say
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Speaker 15: a lot. You know, you've already pointed out in this
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Speaker 15: interview several angles that the media has either underreported or
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Speaker 15: has not covered. And that's a real disservice to the
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Speaker 15: American public as well.
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Speaker 5: So who's doing it good? You know, I'm going to
48:28
Speaker 5: fight the urge to find out if you have ratings
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Speaker 5: on me and this show, because the worst answer is, oh,
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Speaker 5: we don't have a rating on you. Joe. But who
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Speaker 5: is in the people you have analyzed their reportage? Who
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Speaker 5: is doing that good job? Who is doing the you know,
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Speaker 5: who should my listeners be looking for for those those reportings.
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Speaker 3: Well, let me first say that we would love to
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Speaker 3: rate you.
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Speaker 15: We have just started branching out beyond legacy media, so
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Speaker 15: we do.
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Speaker 3: Hope to.
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Speaker 15: The important radio show hosts of America as well.
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Speaker 5: Hey, by the way, by the way, radio is the
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Speaker 5: ultimate legacy media. We were here before everyone else, and
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Speaker 5: guess what, we're gonna still be here afterwards because we're
49:13
Speaker 5: like cockroaches. You keep trying to kill us and we
49:16
Speaker 5: keep coming back.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's great.
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Speaker 15: You guys do a great service to Americans, So keep
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Speaker 15: it up. But you know what I would say is
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Speaker 15: it is very hard to find one media outlet that
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Speaker 15: gets everything right.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it just doesn't really exist.
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Speaker 15: But I guess I would say that if you look
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Speaker 15: at our ratings, the Wall Street Journal probably gets as
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Speaker 15: close as you can to center in terms of its reporting.
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Speaker 3: Not it's editorial.
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Speaker 15: It's editorial leans right, but they had they're transparent about that.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So I would look at the Wall Street Journal
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Speaker 3: in terms of but they don't always you know, they're
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Speaker 3: not always center.
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Speaker 15: Even their reporters, you get some left leaning, but compare
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Speaker 15: they're not the worst offenders when you compare them to
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Speaker 15: the rest of the lot. A site that I just
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Speaker 15: love and I go to every day is real clear politics,
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Speaker 15: and that's because they do a great job of providing
50:19
Speaker 15: perspectives from the left and the right, so you can
50:23
Speaker 15: easily see for yourself how issues are being covered on
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Speaker 15: both sides and then make your own determinations of where
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Speaker 15: you stand on different issues.
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Speaker 5: That is true, you'll find columnists from both groups. You
50:35
Speaker 5: won't find them in the middle, but you'll find both
50:38
Speaker 5: sides at least in there. And that's well said on that.
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Speaker 5: So where does in your experience? Christine? Last question for you,
50:49
Speaker 5: the tough one. Where does this go? What is the
50:54
Speaker 5: shelf life on this? I know Rush had a wonderful expression.
50:59
Speaker 5: He used to refer to them as the drive by media,
51:03
Speaker 5: And just like you know, just like a drive by assault.
51:07
Speaker 5: You know, they show up in their vehicles, they're there
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Speaker 5: for an hour or two and then they're gone after
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Speaker 5: causing great consternation. Is this a drive by in Iran?
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Speaker 5: For them? Are they going to stay there? If we're
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Speaker 5: still there three weeks from now. What are they doing
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Speaker 5: or will they find something else to chase around Washington.
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Speaker 3: I think it depends on what happens in Iran.
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Speaker 15: That that really is going to dictate whether or not
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Speaker 15: they stay on this story or not. My hope is
51:38
Speaker 15: that they will continue to cover it because it is
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Speaker 15: one of the most important developments that occurred, certainly under
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Speaker 15: the Trump administration, but also you know, within the last
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Speaker 15: few decades. I think the good reporters will stay on it.
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Speaker 3: But we'll see.
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Speaker 5: Okay. Well, thank you so much for your time and
51:59
Speaker 5: all things that you do at media Pedia and the
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Speaker 5: coverage that you've given it as well, and for you
52:05
Speaker 5: joining us and giving us a little bit. Do I
52:08
Speaker 5: have to apply for a rating or is that just
52:12
Speaker 5: something I'll find out about somewhre.
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Speaker 3: That got you on my list?
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Speaker 5: I knew it. It's always a good day when I
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Speaker 5: get on someone's list. Christine Schernouski, President and CEO of
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Speaker 5: media Pedia. We appreciate it, you know, my shallowness and
52:28
Speaker 5: my desperate need for attention aside. Thank you so much
52:31
Speaker 5: and have a great day.
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Speaker 3: Thanks so much to show you too, and.
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Speaker 5: Thank you for listening. This morning back home where I
52:39
Speaker 5: met my wife on Long Island News Radio, or here
52:41
Speaker 5: in the Central Virginia wherever you're getting us on the
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Speaker 5: talk media network until next weekend or Monday if your
52:47
Speaker 5: station gets us so long and thanks for all the fish.
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