Latest / Cereal Killers / Are Your Microbes Dead? Free Lab Testing for Regenerative Farmers
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- 0:00Hello there and welcome back to Serial Killers, the podcast all about the pest,
- 0:05diseases, weeds and other challenges of growing arable crops. I'm your host, Dr.
- 0:10Russell Sharp of Utrema Limited and we make novel fertilizers,
- 0:15biostimulants and biopesticides.
- 0:17However, one of the things we do not manufacture or sell is microbial products.
- 0:23And I used to sell microbial products
- 0:26in the past and there are a few reasons why
- 0:29i don't currently or we don't currently i'll
- 0:32explain those i'll also explain the main reason i'm
- 0:35on this podcast is i'm going to offer a free new service
- 0:38to all regenerative farmers so stay tuned for that so the
- 0:41reason we don't sell microbial products is because they are always dying so
- 0:46like all living things that always dying so they when i buy them i get anxiety
- 0:51that i've purchased several thousand pounds worth of raw material that is just
- 0:56going to die there on my shelves and if i don't sell it quickly then i potentially
- 1:01either have to get rid of it or i have to trick farmers
- 1:05into buying dead product which i don't want to do once i
- 1:08had a customer who insisted on me selling a product i'd come into a company
- 1:12they were selling this anti-nematode bacteria from america a guy called john
- 1:19john lbs his name was he was supplying it and i said it's out of date it's been
- 1:23been on the shelves for several years it's going to be dead.
- 1:26And the customer said, I don't care. I need it. And he got really upset.
- 1:28So I sold it to him on the understanding that the product was dead.
- 1:32And then I went on holiday for two weeks, cycled from Land's End to John O'Groats
- 1:36and the CEO of the company and.
- 1:39Phoned me up and said, I've given that customer a refund because he said the
- 1:41product didn't work and you promised it it would.
- 1:43I said, I did not, but thanks for giving the refund. We're now,
- 1:47you know, tens of thousands of pounds out of pocket because.
- 1:50You know, the product died.
- 1:52And that's one of the things, the reasons I don't sell microbial products.
- 1:55The other reason is that we don't have a fermenter.
- 1:57We don't have the production facilities to do it. So what we would be doing
- 2:01is buying in and then blending.
- 2:02And that's what a lot of microbial companies do. they buy
- 2:06from other people and the problem is that the supply chain can get extended
- 2:09and get diluted but like hard drugs they
- 2:12can get cut at every step of the
- 2:14supply chain so i always suggest if people
- 2:17come in and say they want a microbial biostimulant then i will suggest people who
- 2:20i have seen their fermenters i've seen where they make
- 2:23the their bioreactors where they they produce
- 2:26them there are a few in the uk and other people they
- 2:30say they do this but actually when you go to their site all
- 2:32they have is warehouse racking and nothing else no mixers
- 2:36or anything so always very cautious i wouldn't buy
- 2:38any biostimates unless i'd seen the actual manufacturing facility
- 2:42and this comes on to my next point there's a lot of bad
- 2:45players and so if you have
- 2:48you can produce the best microbial product in the
- 2:51world but you're always up against people just
- 2:54selling dirty water and they muddy the waters
- 2:57they muddy the market and they give it a bad name people say snake oil and things
- 3:02like this and so and we've had this where we've got a fantastic biofungicide
- 3:06called chitosan but some of our best customers have stopped using it because
- 3:09somebody's promised them that
- 3:11this microbial product just five grams per hectare will work far better so.
- 3:17I want to improve the biostimulant sector.
- 3:21And the one way we do that is not through regulations and DEFRA's current move
- 3:27to register all biostimulants because that's nonsense. What I'm going to do
- 3:31is I'm going to offer a free service to all regenerative farmers and growers.
- 3:35And you can send in any microbial product you've purchased in the last, say, year.
- 3:41And we will stick it under a microscope. We'll stain it.
- 3:44We'll look for viability. we'll look we'll identify the
- 3:47microbes we'll to some extent quantify them also on
- 3:50agar plates and culture them see if they're culturable and this
- 3:54will tell you whether you've been you have purchased a bacterial product a fungal
- 3:58product as it states and whether it's alive and whether it is the one that you
- 4:04said it was was it a if it was a bacillus it should be bacillus shaped for example
- 4:09it should stain in the way that bacillus bacteria do.
- 4:14So this is free to any farmer, not just current and past customers of Eutrema.
- 4:19We would love all regenerative farmers to use our fantastic biofungicides,
- 4:24our fantastic fertilizers and biopesticides, biostimulants, but we understand
- 4:31that this is not going to be the case. But if we can improve.
- 4:34The standard across the board then that's
- 4:37got to be a good thing so i'm going to offer this free of
- 4:40charge i'm going to be working in conjunction with the natural northampton natural
- 4:43history society and their experts in microbial staining
- 4:46and things like this so hopefully we will we'll
- 4:50clean up the industry in that respect and when people say
- 4:53oh it's just bugs in a jug you can say well actually i got the full
- 4:55report back from you treatment they said that this product contains bacillus
- 4:59they said it was a highly concentrated source example here
- 5:02are the pictures of my microbes under the microscope aren't
- 5:05they fantastic here's a picture of them a video of
- 5:08them wriggling around and and doing their
- 5:11thing and you can have far more confidence that the significant
- 5:14amount of money you spent on them wasn't wasted this all
- 5:17spurred on by a customer james tarry of vt farms
- 5:20in kettering he bought something from biostimulants.com some
- 5:24microbial products and i've never heard of them before based in
- 5:27london which is not traditionally a big area for
- 5:30biostimulants and he's got he sent he's brought
- 5:33along a few samples when he was buying some potassium silicate from us and and
- 5:37said could you analyze these for us and i said yeah i can do
- 5:40but that spurred me on to think well actually this is a service we can
- 5:43offer to all regenerative farmers and growers not just even arable.
- 5:47Farmers sports turf hydroponics anyone
- 5:50who's selling microbial products be warned your products may
- 5:53be analyzed by us and we may call you out and
- 5:56as you'll know if you know anything from me i'm all
- 6:00for calling out bad players like icl
- 6:03when they sell white phosphorus for military use or and sponsor battalions of
- 6:09the israeli army that burned down greenhouses and things like that so yeah i'm
- 6:12not afraid of a fight i'm not afraid to call out bad players but i'm also not
- 6:16afraid to recommend competitors products when they are good.
- 6:20A microbial product we've always recommended is Biomex Starter from Omex. And.
- 6:26We've also recommended legume technology in nottingham
- 6:30for their microbials rhizobia for like nitrogen fixing
- 6:33peas and beans so yeah we're
- 6:36both sides really and hopefully to raise the
- 6:39standard of the fertilizer industry across the board so hopefully
- 6:42this is something you'll get behind and you've got some samples send them into utreema send
- 6:46them to our new address in Lutterworth don't send them to our old
- 6:49address in Daventry and yeah hopefully we
- 6:52can get some really exciting results and share them with the wider
- 6:54community in the regenerative space okay hope
- 6:57this is of interest and any questions comments or corrections then let me know
- 7:03i'm always happy to change things and and address comments thank you very much
- 7:06for listening and check out utreema.co.uk for all those fantastic products i
- 7:11said that we are the primary manufacturer of rather than just a reseller reformulator
- 7:15or re-botler thank you very much goodbye.