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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang and the club on nine
- 0:05Speaker 1: four seven.
- 0:07Speaker 2: So this is how friendships end?
- 0:11Speaker 3: How well?
- 0:12Speaker 4: And I'm saying this because I'm currently watching this in
- 0:15Speaker 4: real time happening in like, not in my friendship circle,
- 0:21Speaker 4: but in my in my extent, my satellite friendship circle.
- 0:25Speaker 5: Where.
- 0:27Speaker 4: People forget that there's an etiquette to befriending your friend's friend.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Befriending your friend's friend. Yes, okay, So let's.
- 0:35Speaker 4: Say everybody made through me, okay, and then two of
- 0:40Speaker 4: the friends decide that they're going to be friends, even
- 0:43Speaker 4: outside of you. Apparently it's a thing, and apparently people
- 0:46Speaker 4: don't like it.
- 0:47Speaker 1: People catch feelings about this kind of stuffy.
- 0:50Speaker 4: I've always found that when my friends get along, it
- 0:53Speaker 4: makes my life easier because then you don't constantly have
- 0:57Speaker 4: to be worrying about oh oh, it's this friendship circle.
- 0:59Speaker 4: As that friendship circle, the fact that you can put
- 1:01Speaker 4: all your friends in one melting pot, especially around birthdays, funerals,
- 1:05Speaker 4: baby showers, weddings and all of that, it should work easier.
- 1:07Speaker 4: But apparently some people don't like it, and that's also allowed.
- 1:10Speaker 4: Let's not judge them.
- 1:12Speaker 6: I mean, look, I'm not a big fan of mixing
- 1:15Speaker 6: groups of friends because sometimes it doesn't work as an experiment.
- 1:18Speaker 6: But from what I've heard, what people what upsets people
- 1:21Speaker 6: is so you connect Cyndia and I, right, and then
- 1:26Speaker 6: we then arrange a meetup that you weren't aware of
- 1:29Speaker 6: until you see Instagram snaps and you go, oh, so
- 1:32Speaker 6: you guys have cut out the middle man. I thought
- 1:34Speaker 6: the three of us were a trio type of thing.
- 1:37Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Yeah, And people have rules around this kind of stuff
- 1:40Speaker 1: and they'll catch feelings.
- 1:41Speaker 2: So there's etiquette.
- 1:42Speaker 4: I found an article that has etiquette, and it's like, Okay,
- 1:44Speaker 4: finally somebody put it into words right, because the truth
- 1:48Speaker 4: of the matter is people who feel like those people
- 1:49Speaker 4: who feel slighted when their friends become friends with their
- 1:51Speaker 4: other friends. They're painted as being childish and you know, insecure.
- 1:57Speaker 4: But there's I think there's kind of mayor to your feeling.
- 2:00Speaker 4: So listen to this etiquette. Okay, you must include rule one.
- 2:05Speaker 4: You must include the friend who introduced you to at
- 2:08Speaker 4: least a few times before you.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Guys hang out by yourselves.
- 2:13Speaker 6: Which is what I was saying, because that's where they
- 2:15Speaker 6: catch feelings.
- 2:17Speaker 3: So there's going to be a slow transition.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it is funny enough.
- 2:20Speaker 4: Rule too, The transition from hanging out the three of
- 2:23Speaker 4: you to hanging out one on one can happen if
- 2:26Speaker 4: and only the original friend has missed at least two
- 2:29Speaker 4: of the in person hangouts in a role.
- 2:31Speaker 7: Sorry, is this an adult friendship or a board game?
- 2:33Speaker 7: What is going on here?
- 2:35Speaker 2: Adults?
- 2:35Speaker 5: Like?
- 2:35Speaker 7: Why are we having rules in adult friendships just to
- 2:38Speaker 7: keep the peace?
- 2:39Speaker 8: No?
- 2:39Speaker 7: Why can't we all just understand different friends for different things,
- 2:43Speaker 7: different people for different things. It's okay to have different
- 2:46Speaker 7: friends for different things, and it's okay for people to
- 2:49Speaker 7: be friends without you.
- 2:51Speaker 4: The first time you and your friends hang out one
- 2:55Speaker 4: on one, you must take a selfie together and send
- 2:58Speaker 4: it to the original friend to the original later.
- 3:01Speaker 7: So what happened before cell phones? In the letter, you're
- 3:04Speaker 7: gonna take a photo and then go to CNA and
- 3:06Speaker 7: develop develop it and saying no, guys, I'm sorry.
- 3:09Speaker 2: You can't have rules around friendships.
- 3:11Speaker 5: Rule four. It is the final rule.
- 3:13Speaker 2: No, never post a photo.
- 3:15Speaker 4: Of you and your friend's friend unless she knows that
- 3:18Speaker 4: you guys are together, so it can't surprise me. I
- 3:20Speaker 4: can't be scrolling through WhatsApp or Facebook or.
- 3:23Speaker 6: Twitter, although meeting and making sure there's no evidence sounds
- 3:30Speaker 6: far more devious.
- 3:31Speaker 7: Do you agree with any of these rules? Do you
- 3:34Speaker 7: think there should be rules?
- 3:36Speaker 4: I mean I don't care for it personally, Like I say,
- 3:38Speaker 4: I like it when my friends get along.
- 3:39Speaker 2: But I understand people who feel like this.
- 3:41Speaker 6: So if you got on Instagram this afternoon on your
- 3:44Speaker 6: birthday and Cyndia and now I don't know at Jimelle,
- 3:50Speaker 6: do you know why?
- 3:51Speaker 5: Do you know?
- 3:51Speaker 4: I like it because I like them together, because they
- 3:54Speaker 4: like the same person.
- 3:55Speaker 7: She would only be upset because she'd be like, it's
- 3:56Speaker 7: my birthday, I'd like to come drink champagne. That's the
- 3:58Speaker 7: only reason she wouldn't be je of the friendship.
- 4:01Speaker 4: I mean, friends of mine went on holiday together after
- 4:04Speaker 4: meeting through me.
- 4:05Speaker 3: But did they invite you? No? Oh you didn't want
- 4:08Speaker 3: to go? Yes? You see, this is why I would
- 4:10Speaker 3: catch a little bit of feelings.
- 4:11Speaker 1: Like if my two best friends started hanging out together
- 4:14Speaker 1: without me, without inviting me, I'd be like, what's happening?
- 4:17Speaker 3: What did I do?
- 4:18Speaker 7: But you wouldn't have You wouldn't have a problem with
- 4:20Speaker 7: them being friends. You would just have pomo for how
- 4:22Speaker 7: much fun they're gonna have?
- 4:24Speaker 8: Yeah?
- 4:24Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I feel like I'm being cut out
- 4:26Speaker 1: of the friendship.
- 4:28Speaker 7: But if they included you the next time.
- 4:30Speaker 3: That's fine.
- 4:30Speaker 8: See.
- 4:31Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's that you can be friends, but
- 4:35Speaker 4: you guys now can't be friends more than your friends
- 4:37Speaker 4: with mem Hmmm, I think.
- 4:39Speaker 2: That's where it is.
- 4:41Speaker 4: Oh one one eight thirty eight nine four seven. This
- 4:44Speaker 4: is why I'm protecting you here. You're not childish. Just
- 4:47Speaker 4: run us through it. Run us through why you don't
- 4:49Speaker 4: want your friends being friends with your other friends without
- 4:51Speaker 4: you in the mix.
- 4:53Speaker 3: I'm at this point of the game.
- 4:54Speaker 1: I can admit that I might be instigating a little
- 4:59Speaker 1: bit of a French coo ooh right, but I'll tell
- 5:02Speaker 1: you just now about it.
- 5:03Speaker 3: But am I bastie? But I'm being very open about
- 5:06Speaker 3: it so he knows, So he knows it's coming. He
- 5:09Speaker 3: knows it's coming.
- 5:10Speaker 4: You're poaching poaching his friend, yes, and you want his
- 5:14Speaker 4: friend to be better friends with you than him.
- 5:16Speaker 3: We'll talk about it just now.
- 5:17Speaker 4: Zero eight four double zero double zero nine four seven.
- 5:20Speaker 4: Apparently there's an etiquette to be friending a friend's friend.
- 5:23Speaker 2: Has this ever happened to you? Do you wish that
- 5:26Speaker 2: these rules were followed?
- 5:27Speaker 4: Where does it stand now? Has it caused havoc? Is
- 5:30Speaker 4: their tension? Have you lost friends because of this?
- 5:34Speaker 1: I can imagine a lot of people have gone through this.
- 5:36Speaker 2: Some are against you, some are for you. But don't worry.
- 5:39Speaker 4: It's all balanced, not not everyone is going to jump
- 5:41Speaker 4: down your throat, justindy.
- 5:43Speaker 9: Yeah, we all need to be mature about this and
- 5:45Speaker 9: realize that people may have more than one friend. You
- 5:49Speaker 9: are not entitled to be the only friend of your friend.
- 5:53Speaker 9: Friends get to make more friends.
- 5:55Speaker 6: People should just do what the hell you want, whether
- 5:58Speaker 6: or not they met through me or whatever the situation is.
- 6:01Speaker 3: I really I do not mind. I could not be bothered.
- 6:03Speaker 3: I actually don't care.
- 6:05Speaker 1: I love for them to be happy without me, because
- 6:07Speaker 1: sometimes I'll be busy to be there, or whatever the.
- 6:09Speaker 3: Case would be.
- 6:10Speaker 7: You know what's worse than your friends becoming friends behind
- 6:13Speaker 7: your back?
- 6:14Speaker 5: When your sister and your mother in law becomes besties
- 6:17Speaker 5: and having key dates and they don't include you.
- 6:20Speaker 1: It's about not being included. Yeah, when you become friends
- 6:24Speaker 1: with your friends.
- 6:24Speaker 4: Your sister's not call for that because she I mean,
- 6:30Speaker 4: I'm not saying even your mother in law, she's just
- 6:32Speaker 4: saying that she preshoes your sister to you.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Well, they just connect better, you see that they obviously
- 6:38Speaker 1: that's what the issue is here.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see it Christmas. Who connects better with who?
- 6:42Speaker 2: When it's time for me to buy you a gift?
- 6:44Speaker 2: What's your story?
- 6:44Speaker 3: Okay?
- 6:44Speaker 1: So my best friend's name is Vickers, right, Yes, we
- 6:47Speaker 1: jump together all the time, lovely, play some tennis. He's
- 6:50Speaker 1: back on the tennis court now, paddle et cetera, played
- 6:54Speaker 1: real man, Real Men.
- 6:55Speaker 3: He has a friend called Jimmy.
- 6:57Speaker 2: Is this the one that you're trying desperately to be
- 6:59Speaker 2: friends with?
- 6:59Speaker 3: Yes?
- 7:00Speaker 1: So Jimmy is an exceptionally nice guy everyone. He's so
- 7:04Speaker 1: cool and I wish I could be friends with Jimmy.
- 7:07Speaker 1: But we are connected through Vickers.
- 7:10Speaker 3: But Vickers.
- 7:11Speaker 1: I don't think Jimmy knows this, but Vickers knows. I've
- 7:14Speaker 1: said to him, if I could be friends with Jimmy,
- 7:17Speaker 1: I choose that.
- 7:18Speaker 2: So what's stopping you from being friends with Jimmy.
- 7:20Speaker 3: Well, Jimmy's got a lot of friends.
- 7:22Speaker 2: So at the moment there's a cue, there's a waiting list.
- 7:26Speaker 3: Jimmy's French.
- 7:26Speaker 1: So Jimmy, obviously we know each other and we've seen
- 7:29Speaker 1: each other a few times, met a few times.
- 7:30Speaker 2: You've never been around Jimmy without Vickers there. This is
- 7:33Speaker 2: what you want. You want one on one time with Jimmy.
- 7:35Speaker 1: But now this is what we're talking about because the
- 7:37Speaker 1: etiquette here states that we shouldn't be doing it.
- 7:40Speaker 3: I shouldn't be pursuing that.
- 7:42Speaker 2: This only applies when both parties want to be friends.
- 7:47Speaker 3: Are you saying that, Jimmy?
- 7:48Speaker 2: Jimmy Rozoni in.
- 7:51Speaker 5: Limpopo, good morning, Hey, happy birthday.
- 7:54Speaker 2: Thank you so much for Rodany. I'm having a good day.
- 7:58Speaker 5: I can hear.
- 7:59Speaker 2: Okay, talk to us.
- 8:00Speaker 4: What do you think about this friendship etiquette?
- 8:03Speaker 5: You know what I'm not for the in terms of
- 8:06Speaker 5: how you Expennard was taking selfie and whatnot. I think
- 8:08Speaker 5: that's to my son. Were all adult and you know
- 8:10Speaker 5: we can just manage, you know, our own emotions, et cetera.
- 8:14Speaker 5: But for me, the only problem is when you when
- 8:17Speaker 5: the friends who the friends who have not become friends starts,
- 8:22Speaker 5: you know, the main friend that he's not connection the
- 8:24Speaker 5: other friends, he starts talking badly about you to the
- 8:27Speaker 5: other friends. And the friend that you have a startid
- 8:31Speaker 5: relationship with now start taking the other friends side.
- 8:35Speaker 8: So I remember, for.
- 8:36Speaker 5: Example, my husband is so his friend doesn't stay here,
- 8:40Speaker 5: says in Joe bots for the one day he and
- 8:43Speaker 5: they were like they those friends that like to teach
- 8:45Speaker 5: everything ale day on the phone like with a you morning, noon,
- 8:48Speaker 5: like every single day. And then one day he didn't
- 8:51Speaker 5: say anything and he wrapped up the side and my
- 8:54Speaker 5: husband bumped into him like it was a surprise. So
- 8:57Speaker 5: I think those kinds of things. But just I feel
- 8:59Speaker 5: like that where you are just regarding the just a
- 9:02Speaker 5: simple call like hey dude, it was last minute, but
- 9:05Speaker 5: I am around, I might see you, I might not,
- 9:07Speaker 5: you know, so that when you do see me, it's
- 9:09Speaker 5: not a surprise. So for me, that's the only otherwise.
- 9:12Speaker 5: You know, friends can be friends, and it's always nice
- 9:14Speaker 5: being friends of friends become friends.
- 9:16Speaker 4: It really is easier because even your trips away are
- 9:19Speaker 4: much easier because you're not playing middleman where you oh,
- 9:22Speaker 4: you know, she also likes cooking. Everyone gets along.
- 9:25Speaker 2: Because they know each other.
- 9:26Speaker 4: But even with that, guys, there is boundaries, like you're
- 9:29Speaker 4: saying there's no now you are in my neighborhood when
- 9:33Speaker 4: you used to come and visit me all the time,
- 9:35Speaker 4: and you don't say anything because you're somewhere else exactly.
- 9:38Speaker 5: Yeah, So, and I mean, I mean they can have
- 9:40Speaker 5: their own, you know, friendship with actually being there. But
- 9:42Speaker 5: I think just or I think, just remember like who
- 9:45Speaker 5: your main friend is and that you know you should
- 9:48Speaker 5: you should by all means try and protect that their
- 9:50Speaker 5: friendship because if you allow someone else become and poison
- 9:53Speaker 5: that friendship thing, yeah, because even now they're like, it's
- 9:56Speaker 5: so said, they don't even speak as much. It's as
- 9:58Speaker 5: if they don't even know it.
- 10:02Speaker 3: And that's the sad thing.
- 10:03Speaker 1: That's what happens, right because obviously now you know you
- 10:06Speaker 1: feel betrayed. I think that's because you feel betrayed by
- 10:09Speaker 1: your friends.
- 10:10Speaker 4: So when like I'm watching this happen in my periphery
- 10:13Speaker 4: friendship circle, and it's purely because if you and I
- 10:17Speaker 4: are really good friends, right and I tell you.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Everything, you must remember that.
- 10:20Speaker 4: If I want to moan about Cindy, who's also my friend,
- 10:23Speaker 4: but you guys are not friends you in my safe space,
- 10:27Speaker 4: I bounce off you.
- 10:28Speaker 2: You know, Cindy and I have.
- 10:29Speaker 4: Got this issue, but she's like this and she's like that.
- 10:31Speaker 4: So it doesn't mean that I don't love Cindy any lace.
- 10:34Speaker 4: But it just means that if there is something that
- 10:36Speaker 4: her and I are grappling with, I will confide in Frankie. Now,
- 10:39Speaker 4: if Frankie and Cindy become friends, now my vault is gone.
- 10:43Speaker 4: And everything I've ever said about Cindy to Frankie now yeah,
- 10:48Speaker 4: now they're you know what I'm saying because well, you
- 10:51Speaker 4: know one said this about you. Yes, but you know
- 10:53Speaker 4: now you're just giving that. You're not giving the context
- 10:56Speaker 4: and how I was feeling and what was happening between
- 10:58Speaker 4: me and you then, because humans are complex creatures, we
- 11:01Speaker 4: go up, we go down, we go left.
- 11:03Speaker 2: We go right.
- 11:03Speaker 3: Emotional.
- 11:04Speaker 4: Yeah, so I just think the whole like friendship amalga mating,
- 11:08Speaker 4: is that you now no longer have safe spaces.
- 11:11Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't even like like you're saying an individual
- 11:14Speaker 1: friend of two that you can go to.
- 11:16Speaker 4: Yeahala in Centurion, Good morning.
- 11:20Speaker 8: Good morning, guys. How are you doing?
- 11:21Speaker 2: We're great? You say you're going to do the same thing.
- 11:24Speaker 8: Yeah, it's wild for me, guys, because I was I
- 11:28Speaker 8: was with a friend. I'm going to say it wise
- 11:30Speaker 8: because we're not friends anymore, and there was been I
- 11:34Speaker 8: was friends within twenty years. You know what I mean,
- 11:37Speaker 8: and he introduced me to a friend of his. We
- 11:40Speaker 8: got into business with this friend of his, and then
- 11:44Speaker 8: we you know, we we built a relationship because of
- 11:47Speaker 8: the business side of it, you know what I mean.
- 11:49Speaker 8: It's it was always my best friend and I would
- 11:52Speaker 8: go to them and we would chill together, a few
- 11:56Speaker 8: of us. It was always a three of us. And
- 11:59Speaker 8: then you know, me and the side frame, we got
- 12:03Speaker 8: closer because of the business side. He got of it.
- 12:07Speaker 8: He started spreading rumors about me and to our other friends,
- 12:11Speaker 8: and you know, I mean, he messed it up, and
- 12:14Speaker 8: I didn't that. Me and the guy became closer to
- 12:18Speaker 8: a point right now we are best friends, you know.
- 12:21Speaker 4: And now he's going to be the best man at
- 12:23Speaker 4: you're waiting and not your real friend, you know.
- 12:25Speaker 8: What I mean. And it's not because of me, it's
- 12:27Speaker 8: because of him.
- 12:28Speaker 3: He's the one that caught feelings.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Go back to making your morning and on nine four seven,