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Karl Schwarz and Brian Gerrish: 9-11 Part 3 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good morning to the UK column viewers and listeners, and welcome.
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Speaker 1: I'm delighted to have Carl Schwartz back with me. We've
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Speaker 1: already done two sessions on the World Trade Center collapse,
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Speaker 1: Part one and Part two. That was a couple of
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Speaker 1: months ago. Now we're delighted to get back together. And
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Speaker 1: today we decided we would have a very relaxed chat
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Speaker 1: about how things have gone since we put out those
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Speaker 1: two discussions about what took place for nine to eleven.
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Speaker 1: So Carl, thank you very much for joining me again.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's my pleasure. I know you've been very busy
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Speaker 2: since part two. It's so back.
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Speaker 1: Well, this is a part of the key thing for
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Speaker 1: us to discuss. It has been a very busy period,
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Speaker 1: but we've made it. That's the important thing. We're back
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Speaker 1: here together. I wanted a start off with just asking
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Speaker 1: you in simple terms. We did those two interviews. You
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Speaker 1: brought to the table. I think at least some really
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Speaker 1: fascinating information which is not information which has been widely
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Speaker 1: which is not information which has been available really in
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Speaker 1: previous nine to eleven analysis. And the key part was
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Speaker 1: that you were talking about the lead up to it,
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Speaker 1: the events leading up to the actual fall of the
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Speaker 1: Twin Towers, and you were really getting into what was
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Speaker 1: happening in a political sense, which gave the reason that
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Speaker 1: this horrific event took place. So we put out the information.
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Speaker 1: What sort of reaction of you got and who was
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Speaker 1: reacted to the two interviews that we did.
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Speaker 2: Well then basically from Tokyo all the way to Vancouver.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I've got a lot of contact since we
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Speaker 2: put my email in there. I feel like on some
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Speaker 2: days I feel like I'm playing ping pong with my keyboard,
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Speaker 2: but I'm answering and providing additional information to these people.
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Speaker 2: We've set up a website. You know, that power point
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Speaker 2: I sent you was almost twenty megabits, and it's of
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Speaker 2: course it's it's very professionally done. And what is what
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Speaker 2: I've run into was now the nine to eleven groups,
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Speaker 2: the ones that are still standing like Architect Engineers, Nineolemic Truth,
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Speaker 2: the International Senator Center for nine to eleven Justice, the
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Speaker 2: nine Elemen, Pilot whistle Boarders. You know, we're all in
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Speaker 2: direct communications. You know, they have their own focus and
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Speaker 2: some of them are trying to get their head around
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Speaker 2: my focus. And I think I said this in the
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Speaker 2: in the second part two was when I saw molten
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Speaker 2: metal coming out of one of the trade center towers,
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Speaker 2: I knew exactly what they have done. There's only one
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Speaker 2: way to do that, and it's not by jet fuel
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Speaker 2: and it's not by building fire. Now, one of the
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Speaker 2: things I've noticed is very interesting. I've since watched seven videos,
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Speaker 2: podcast video stuff like that. Kurt Weldon has come forward
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Speaker 2: the link I sent you this morning. He's on there
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Speaker 2: also with Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaeffer, who is DIA, a
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Speaker 2: Defense Intelligence agency. He's part of Able Danger. Also Major
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Speaker 2: Kurt Kleinsmith, he is DA He's the one that he
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Speaker 2: was ordered to delete that four terror bites of information.
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Speaker 2: So all the little pieces are starting to come in.
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Speaker 2: You know, the Saudeast didn't have anything to do with this.
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Speaker 2: They sure didn't have a chance to get in there
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Speaker 2: and wire all three buildings for controlled demolition. I think
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Speaker 2: Richard Gage has done a very good job of presenting that.
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Speaker 2: But like I told you, and I've told Richard privately
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Speaker 2: over email, when I saw that molten metal coming out,
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Speaker 2: I went looking for who did the thermtic reaction that
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Speaker 2: crippled that building to where the bombs would work and
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Speaker 2: bring them down. And that's the trail. And it's like
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Speaker 2: we said, I think the first part one, we have
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Speaker 2: this situation where I met bridgeOS Corporation. They told me
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Speaker 2: what their accomplishments were in Turkmenistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan for
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Speaker 2: a pipeline, and they also told me about the big
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Speaker 2: Texas lawsuit. So two years before nine to eleven, a
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Speaker 2: little bit over two years I was already following that
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Speaker 2: and waiting to see what else popped up, Jod, Like
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Speaker 2: you said, geopolitical, that's trellis and dollars towards of all
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Speaker 2: trus natural guess and the reason to attack the Afghanistans
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Speaker 2: to take that over.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Cole, let's just come back a little bit on
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Speaker 1: the types of people out there who have who have reacted,
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Speaker 1: you know, to what we've covered. Why do we start
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Speaker 1: off with the the nine to eleven groups themselves, because
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Speaker 1: this is a very important selection of people. Many of
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Speaker 1: them have worked extremely hard over a great number of
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Speaker 1: years in order to try and to get the truth
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Speaker 1: out about what's taken place. And you will, you will
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Speaker 1: know these these groups and the individuals for more better
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Speaker 1: than I do. But if I just list off some
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Speaker 1: We've got the International Center for nine to eleven Justice.
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Speaker 1: I think that was funded by James Gurley way back
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight. We've got nine to eleven
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Speaker 1: Truth dot Org. We've got scholars for nine eleven Truth.
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Speaker 1: We've also got architects and engineers for nine eleven Truth.
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Speaker 1: We've got Richard Gage, who's now acting on his own,
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Speaker 1: but he's still very much part of the wider nine
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Speaker 1: eleven truth community. We've got the we've got the Pilot whistleblowers,
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Speaker 1: and you briefly mentioned able danger there, which is Field
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Speaker 1: McConnell if I remember correctly. So this is this is
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Speaker 1: a very wide selection of people, and you've got amazing qualifications.
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Speaker 1: You've got architects, you've got engineers, you've got stress specialized
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Speaker 1: stress engine years, You've got legal people all working in
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Speaker 1: these groups. So has the information that you've brought forward
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Speaker 1: in the last two interviews. Has that made an impact
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Speaker 1: on some of those established organizations? Have you had a
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Speaker 1: positive response?
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Speaker 2: They're trying to get their head around it. It's like
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Speaker 2: I told you in one of the interviews. Yeah, I
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Speaker 2: didn't focus on just the day of September eleventh. It's
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Speaker 2: because of the multen metal phone of that building. We
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Speaker 2: went off in a different direction. One thing I can say,
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Speaker 2: the early Nino weapon truth groups, the nutcases, the ten
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Speaker 2: four hat people, and the government shells are gone. You know,
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Speaker 2: they're not out here harassing everybody like they were the
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Speaker 2: followers that saw that on your UK column. They've all
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Speaker 2: been very knowledgeable, they have been very helpful. They provided
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Speaker 2: some additional information that I think none of us had
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Speaker 2: come across yet. So the little pieces are all coming together,
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Speaker 2: and you have the International Center. They had one way
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Speaker 2: they want to go at it. Kirk Weldon's group. He
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Speaker 2: wants a presidential commission. And to me, that's like putting
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Speaker 2: the government. That's like letting the wolves trying to investigate
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Speaker 2: them themselves while some of the sheep were gone, and
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Speaker 2: we still think. Now there has been a lawsuit. Interesting enough,
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Speaker 2: William Rodriguez, who was the janitor they just barely made
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Speaker 2: it out of North Tower alive, got buried in the rubble.
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Speaker 2: He filed a lawsuit against Bush from Burton and it
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Speaker 2: was a Pennsylvania attorney. But when I read the case
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Speaker 2: and they didn't take the about the tech, I mean
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Speaker 2: it was a record case with silver remedy. But that's
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Speaker 2: not the sole way to go at this.
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Speaker 1: This is one of the things, isn't it that when
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Speaker 1: when these events take place and people are called up
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Speaker 1: in it and they're hurt and damaged, or it's the
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Speaker 1: relatives of people that have been killed, they understandably always
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Speaker 1: approach things from their own point of view, and they've
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Speaker 1: got a lot of passion, so they set off down
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Speaker 1: at roads determined to get justice. But this is this
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Speaker 1: is not easy, and they particularly because they haven't got
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Speaker 1: the strength of a team around them. So these are
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Speaker 1: good people. You correct me if my analysis is wrong here, Colbert.
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Speaker 1: It seems to me we have good people, lots of
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Speaker 1: passion and motivation, but they set off on their own path,
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Speaker 1: and that actually makes them easy pickings for the other side,
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Speaker 1: because essentially they are one or two individuals with very
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Speaker 1: very little experience of the system.
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Speaker 2: That's true. Give you a good example of what you
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Speaker 2: just said. One of the videos I watched, actually two videos,
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Speaker 2: William Rodriguez, last man out of World Trade Center. One
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Speaker 2: he came very close to dying. He's battling PTSD. He
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Speaker 2: lost two hundred friends. He got there thirty minutes await
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Speaker 2: and every day about two hundred of them had breakfasted
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Speaker 2: at the windows in the World Restaurant on the top
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Speaker 2: four and he didn't make it in time. But he
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Speaker 2: lost all those people. You know, that really weighs on him.
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Speaker 2: So it also affects his direction on how to go
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Speaker 2: at it. But even this morning when I watched this
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Speaker 2: Patrick Bett David with Kirk Godding, with Abel Dangers, Lieutenant
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Speaker 2: Colonel Anthony Schaeffer and also a major Kirk clin Smith.
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Speaker 2: Clin Smith was talking about PTSD, you know, feeling like
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Speaker 2: he failed America because they didn't see this. But what
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Speaker 2: nobody has done yet, and I keep listening, they're not
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Speaker 2: admitting his bestest problem. They're not admitting the other two
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Speaker 2: lawsuits that the poortthirty loss. I mean those lawsuits and
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Speaker 2: the chronology I sent you the nineteen eighty seven, nineteen
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Speaker 2: ninety one, in nineteen ninety five, and on May seventeenth,
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Speaker 2: in two thousand and one, it was over. Basically the
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Speaker 2: World Trade Center was condemned. They had no solution to
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Speaker 2: deal with his bestess and possibly any other problem.
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Speaker 1: Right, So, Carl, do you think these key things asbestos
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Speaker 1: being one of them, but also you've given the political
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Speaker 1: lead up. Do you think these are points which are
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Speaker 1: now going to be considered in the the work and
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Speaker 1: the research of these established groups.
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Speaker 2: I think I think they're trying to get their head
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Speaker 2: around it. But you know they've been focused whenever they started.
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Speaker 2: My focus even pre dated September eleventh. I mean one
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Speaker 2: of the things just popped up here. Just give me
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Speaker 2: an idea of how the films are starting to come together. Okay, Oh.
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Speaker 2: In June early June two thousand and one, Donald Rumsfield
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Speaker 2: did something in the Pentagon. It was unheard of rules
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Speaker 2: of engagement when they scramble fighter jets, whether it's a
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Speaker 2: you know, a foreign enemy to penetrate in the US airspace,
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Speaker 2: or it's a hijacked jet, just like you know they
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Speaker 2: alleged happened on nine to eleven. He took away the
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Speaker 2: fast response. They have two responses. One of the slow
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Speaker 2: response to just get up behind them where they can't
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Speaker 2: see you and trail them see what their intentions are.
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Speaker 2: But the other one is a direct engagement, like you're
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Speaker 2: going up against a fighter jet and if it's hajacked
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Speaker 2: and it's confirmed, shoot it down. If they're getting ready
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Speaker 2: to hit something. He deleted that the first week in
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Speaker 2: June two thousand and one, and he didn't reinstate it
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Speaker 2: until September the twelfth, two thousand and one, the day
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Speaker 2: after less crucial because that overrode no rad's a building
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Speaker 2: and US Air Forces of building to respond fast. And
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Speaker 2: then it's also come out they had three separate hijacking
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Speaker 2: scenarios that were playing out across the US that day,
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Speaker 2: and up in the Northeast they had twenty two fake
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Speaker 2: blips and the pilots, you know, the radar systems where
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Speaker 2: the radar airports were, they couldn't tell what was what.
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Speaker 2: And then it also came out that most of the
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Speaker 2: US fighter jets were in Canada and Alaska on another
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Speaker 2: war game. The Russians are invading you know here they
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Speaker 2: come over the pole. Then we had eight fighter jets
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Speaker 2: on the East coast and they're under Pentagon orders. You
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Speaker 2: don't have the slow route as an option. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: This this brings us back onto the subjects of of
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Speaker 1: premeditation that something was going to take place. We could
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Speaker 1: say that each of these things on their own or
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Speaker 1: just one piece of evidence, but when you put it
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Speaker 1: all together, Uh, these a significant piece of evidence with
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Speaker 1: the fact that that something was being planned and actions
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Speaker 1: were being taken excuse me, in order to bring that
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Speaker 1: plan into existence.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's it's like you pointed out in a part one,
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Speaker 2: Men's Ray guilty mind.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely so, Cole, if we if we just
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Speaker 1: stick on that, because I'm fascinated by this. I know,
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Speaker 1: I know that you're you're not going to be able
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Speaker 1: to reveal all your contacts, but you've consistently said to
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Speaker 1: me that you've had a response to what's what's been
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Speaker 1: put out. So along alongside the official organizations, you've been
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Speaker 1: sharing your information with a lot of people overseas, and
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Speaker 1: you've been particularly keen to share your findings with with
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Speaker 1: people authorities in other countries who subsequently been very badly
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Speaker 1: affected by the fallout and no pun intended from nine
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Speaker 1: to eleven, inasmuch as that led into a particularly brutal
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Speaker 1: period of wars in the Middle East in which a
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Speaker 1: lot of people died and were injured. So you've spread
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Speaker 1: your information into other countries. Are you getting are you
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Speaker 1: getting a worthwhile ex sorry, are you getting a worthwhile
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Speaker 1: response from those those contacts in other countries where you
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Speaker 1: share the information.
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Speaker 2: It is just starting to have contacts you when you
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Speaker 2: contact the nation something like this, three hundred and seventy
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Speaker 2: two non US citizens whilst they're allowed at World Trade Center.
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Speaker 2: Second to the US was the UK sixty seven, and
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Speaker 2: then it goes all the way down the west to
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Speaker 2: where there was about ten twelve nations that just lost
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Speaker 2: one person. But trying to find whether or not you
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Speaker 2: go through the justice department at that country, or whether
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Speaker 2: or not you go through the foreign affairs has been tedious.
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Speaker 2: Every nation has their own way of doing things, like
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Speaker 2: the Japanese ministry they lost twenty four people that day,
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Speaker 2: one person on flight ninety three. Twenty three bankers were
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Speaker 2: they lost them in the upper fours of World Trade Center.
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Speaker 2: One that was miss Sui Bank which is now Senatobal Missouon.
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Speaker 2: The other one was Kniche Nippon Bank from Japan, and
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Speaker 2: then in the south tower the Mizuno Finance. Back then
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Speaker 2: they were called Fuji Bank. But they lost twenty three
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Speaker 2: bankers just almost the first two impacts. And I can't
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Speaker 2: I can't even find I can't even find an email
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Speaker 2: I addressed I how to contact them. So I had
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Speaker 2: people in Tokyo working on that. You know, hook me
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Speaker 2: up with a name and I'll get in touch with
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Speaker 2: him myself. Right.
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Speaker 1: But are there signs that that at least some individuals
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Speaker 1: within the government the establishment of Japan for instance, are
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Speaker 1: still interested in what happened in nine to eleven, and
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Speaker 1: you know, the deaths of some of their citizens.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, the ones that have responded back, they're very concerned
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Speaker 2: about that. You know, they were told they were hijacked jets,
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Speaker 2: and we can now prove there were no hijack jets.
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Speaker 2: We can also prove thanks to Richard Gage, his group
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Speaker 2: is founding, done some excellent work on proving all three
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Speaker 2: towers who are controlled emoition. I never thought much about
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Speaker 2: WTC seven until Jimmy Walters had been the third anniversary
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Speaker 2: of two thousand and four that one was a controlled emolition,
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Speaker 2: but I knew the other towers were because of that
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Speaker 2: motion metal. I'm very familiar with the structure because in
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Speaker 2: architecture school I had an engineering school I had to
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Speaker 2: study in the structure of the World Trade Center. Now
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Speaker 2: another two things that have come up. This is just
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Speaker 2: this morning, this interview I was watching with those three
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Speaker 2: people with Patrick you Bett, David the Donald Trump in
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Speaker 2: two thousand predicted such an attack on the World Trade Center. Why,
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Speaker 2: I had no idea. And then on the day of
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Speaker 2: nine oleven, he pointed out directly that World Trade Center
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Speaker 2: seven was an obvious control. Didn't wish but the information
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Speaker 2: that we knew already about the thermdic reaction to cripple
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Speaker 2: the building. I mean, some of those columns, the flanges
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Speaker 2: and even the web, you know, kind of an H
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Speaker 2: shape for three and four inch thick steel, and sometimes
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Speaker 2: they had steel well between the top and bottom flans
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Speaker 2: to make it even stronger. And they even made some
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Speaker 2: a very special type of box columns, you know, just
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Speaker 2: made him from scratch. They were using like four and
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Speaker 2: five inch stick steel. And the only way to cut
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Speaker 2: through that, that's not a bob. You have to weaken
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Speaker 2: it first. Then the bob could work.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, what what inference do you draw from the
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Speaker 1: facts that that Trump spoke about this at that time.
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Speaker 2: Well, I just heard it this morning and I'm still
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Speaker 2: thinking about it. I found it a little odd, and
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Speaker 2: I also found it I think he knew about the
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Speaker 2: asbestos lawsuit. I think he was. That's why I did
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Speaker 2: the interrogatories, and I've got him posted on the website.
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Speaker 2: I don't view him as a potential defendant. I think
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Speaker 2: if we do the interrogatories and we do one deposition,
20:59
Speaker 2: you know this case is going to be pretty much
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Speaker 2: open and shut. One of the things they were talking
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Speaker 2: about this morning, the two people from DEA was how
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Speaker 2: they were the first to do metadata. They figured out
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Speaker 2: they figured out the Defense Intelligence Agency how to gather
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Speaker 2: all this and analyze it and come down to a memo.
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Speaker 2: You know, here's the problem. But the only problem with
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Speaker 2: metadata is you can get out there on the Internet
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Speaker 2: and plant all kinds will bread drums, and when somebody
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Speaker 2: else sweeps through there, this is what they find. And
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Speaker 2: I've been convinced from day one. CIA was behind this
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Speaker 2: all the way. I don't think the soud He's had
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Speaker 2: anything to do with it. In fact, on our defendant list,
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of American names. There's one KUWAITI name.
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Speaker 2: There are no sounds.
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Speaker 1: You and your team have put all this data and
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Speaker 1: the evidence together in order to bring a court case.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the That's the only way I see to
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Speaker 2: solve this. We just force it to action. You get
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Speaker 2: the story in the court. I don't think any type
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Speaker 2: of presidential permission or government investigation is going to go anywhere. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's fact that the cremwell investigated himself.
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Speaker 1: A lot a lot of people were very probably still
22:25
Speaker 1: are excited at the idea that the new Trump administration
22:29
Speaker 1: will lift the lid on a number of cases really
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Speaker 1: where people have got concerns about whether at the time
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Speaker 1: the real information came to the surface, all that information
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Speaker 1: was denied to the US public. So Trump has absolutely
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Speaker 1: got his feet under the table. Now, you have been
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Speaker 1: trying to put this evidence through to I will say,
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Speaker 1: his legal team. Have you Have you been getting any
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Speaker 1: signs of any signs from that Trump team that they
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Speaker 1: are interested in digging deeper into what happened with nine
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Speaker 1: to eleven White House.
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Speaker 2: No. I've contacted Pam Bondy at least four or five times.
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Speaker 2: They have not had response. I had an initial response
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Speaker 2: from this representative, Anna Paulina Lunam that Trump pointed the
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Speaker 2: head of this disclosure program, and she responded back the
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Speaker 2: first time, and I hadn't heard from since. I think
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Speaker 2: they're just waiting to see what you know, which way
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Speaker 2: the wind's gone blow here, which most politicians always.
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Speaker 1: Do, right, so normally silences Okay, we can say silence
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Speaker 1: is that they are watching and waiting. But wouldn't you
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Speaker 1: have thought that, if let's be evocative here, if Trump
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Speaker 1: was doing the right thing and standing up for America,
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Speaker 1: wouldn't you think he'd want to really grip this because
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Speaker 1: it's such a major event and ultimately the fallout with
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Speaker 1: the Patriot Act had such a huge effect on the
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Speaker 1: American public. Wouldn't you expect him to grip this straight away?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean, there's so many other avenues that
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Speaker 2: they're doing. They have created a nightmare. Legislating with the
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Speaker 2: Patriot Act is a serious blow to civil liberties, freedom
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Speaker 2: and liberty. Basically trying to shut everybody up, you know,
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Speaker 2: don't think, you know, don't speak out, just listen to
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Speaker 2: what we tell you. But they have other bills they
24:46
Speaker 2: brought in called the NDAA National Defense Authorization Act, and
24:51
Speaker 2: now it's come out later. They have all these Pentagon
24:55
Speaker 2: funded bio weapon labs all over the world now and
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Speaker 2: they're hidden all the kind of on budget. These these
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Speaker 2: are not separate authorizations that they're doing.
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Speaker 1: Right, So, so you said you were suggesting that because
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Speaker 1: there's such a serious web of largely criminal activity, you know,
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Speaker 1: around the American political system and they we'll call it
25:23
Speaker 1: the military industrial complex that at the moment Trump and
25:28
Speaker 1: his team cannot take direct action, well yet, at least, I.
25:35
Speaker 2: Think they're going to have to be very careful about
25:37
Speaker 2: how they take that action. The deep state has already
25:41
Speaker 2: proven on matter Web, and you know, they're pretty vicious.
25:45
Speaker 2: The I'm trying to figure out how to say this.
25:51
Speaker 2: It's like one person pointed out of this video. I
25:53
Speaker 2: listen to you this morning, what's the what's the connection here?
25:59
Speaker 2: The four nine to eleven. You got Donald Rumsfield in
26:03
Speaker 2: a Pentagon press briefing they can't account for two point
26:06
Speaker 2: three trillion, And the next day the group it was
26:10
Speaker 2: investigating that was eliminated. And it just so happens that
26:15
Speaker 2: Afghanistan cost about two point three trillion, and so did Rock.
26:21
Speaker 2: But as they continued forward with this global war on
26:23
Speaker 2: terror against Libya and also against Syria, you know, we're
26:27
Speaker 2: now up to seven or eight trillion dollars blown on nothing.
26:34
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of little touch points here. Dig deeper.
26:41
Speaker 2: I had one guy this was actually when they were
26:44
Speaker 2: FBI call.
26:47
Speaker 1: Sorry you started to break break out there. You need
26:51
Speaker 1: to say that one again. So you'd taken it.
26:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a friend. He's retired. He's former Science
27:01
Speaker 2: and Technology CIA. And when Robert Muir announced the faces
27:07
Speaker 2: and the names of the nineteen of Edged Pilace the hijackers, okay,
27:14
Speaker 2: they also released a video showing Muhammadada supposedly boarding the
27:20
Speaker 2: flight at Boston Logan Airport. And he sent me an
27:25
Speaker 2: email he said, don't believe He sent me just a
27:28
Speaker 2: screenshot of them boarding. He said, don't believe this. He said,
27:32
Speaker 2: this is the Portland, Maine airport. He said, I've been
27:35
Speaker 2: through there one hundred.
27:36
Speaker 1: Times, right, and you're telling me this because of this,
27:43
Speaker 1: the background that the story the planes took off from
27:49
Speaker 1: Boston and then hit the World Trade Center cannot be
27:54
Speaker 1: drew by the scale of the impact on the side
27:57
Speaker 1: of the building. Oh it was not.
27:59
Speaker 2: Because now, one of the things Trump was talking about
28:04
Speaker 2: on nine to eleven was how they built the World
28:06
Speaker 2: Trade Center, and he was talking about the really big jets.
28:11
Speaker 2: He couldn't believe that they penetrated that much. A seven
28:15
Speaker 2: thirty seven is not a big jet. A seven sixty
28:18
Speaker 2: seven is. And we have that, we have the proof
28:23
Speaker 2: that what hit was a little over fifty percent of
28:26
Speaker 2: the width of the World Trade Center A seven six
28:30
Speaker 2: seven is seventy five and a half percent of the
28:33
Speaker 2: width of the World Trade Center wall. So that's that's
28:38
Speaker 2: many more feet out of two hundred and eight feet.
28:40
Speaker 2: That's the width of that wall is two hundred eight feet.
28:44
Speaker 2: So you know, our approach to it has been, you know,
28:47
Speaker 2: this is a criminal case which you have to weighe through.
28:52
Speaker 2: Is all the different information stuff, and it is a
28:57
Speaker 2: little it is it's a little more refreshing now that
29:01
Speaker 2: people like architect engineers, you're not talking to dummies and
29:06
Speaker 2: they yeah, they now know, Yeah, they now know amaphorm
29:11
Speaker 2: architect engineer, I do now not tech now.
29:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're also talking numbers of them because there's
29:19
Speaker 1: if I remember, the figure is over three thousand professionals
29:24
Speaker 1: involved with architects and engineers in for architects and engineers
29:29
Speaker 1: for nine to eleven. So this is absolutely professionals who
29:33
Speaker 1: are who are challenging the official narrative. This is thousands
29:38
Speaker 1: of qualified people. Yeah, this is a very important point
29:43
Speaker 1: that the organizations that have been standing up to challenge
29:46
Speaker 1: the official narrative. We're not dealing with a few hundred
29:51
Speaker 1: professionals for architects and engineers. I think it's over three thousand.
29:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, over three thousand.
30:00
Speaker 1: Yeah. It would be fantastic, wouldn't it if amongst the
30:07
Speaker 1: long established nine to eleven groups there was a common
30:14
Speaker 1: approach adopted. Well. To me, it seems to make sense
30:17
Speaker 1: that if we could get if we could get all
30:20
Speaker 1: the key organizations agreeing on the basic bullet points of
30:27
Speaker 1: what took place, it would strengthen their hand.
30:31
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. Captain Dan Henley has been pointing that out,
30:36
Speaker 2: especially the International Center for NANOEBN Justice and Arctic Engineers.
30:42
Speaker 2: He's already pointed out to his group and they totally agreed.
30:45
Speaker 2: You know, he's already teamed up with us. But yes,
30:49
Speaker 2: we would be stronger together than separated. But you have
30:52
Speaker 2: some factions like on the AE NANO even truth. They
31:00
Speaker 2: to pursue this as a grand jury, which you would
31:04
Speaker 2: have no choice over the judge that you got stuck with,
31:08
Speaker 2: and that can be a fatal mistate because you get
31:11
Speaker 2: in there, you get it all, and then they seal
31:13
Speaker 2: the file and they dismiss you with prejudice. You can't
31:16
Speaker 2: refout the case.
31:18
Speaker 1: So it is just explained a little bit about the
31:23
Speaker 1: workings of that sort of grand grand jury. Is this
31:28
Speaker 1: effectively a judicial inquiry or equivalent to a judicial inquiry?
31:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very similar to some of the inquiries you
31:36
Speaker 2: have there in the UK and also in Canada. Like
31:39
Speaker 2: if somebody dies or wrongfully what happened in the US,
31:44
Speaker 2: they see the grand journey and nobody's allowed to discuss
31:49
Speaker 2: the case, and they do the investigation. You know, the prosecutor,
31:54
Speaker 2: so to speak, resists the case and they either hand
31:57
Speaker 2: down indictment or they don't, you know, bas based on
32:01
Speaker 2: what's been put before them. It's it's you know, it's
32:05
Speaker 2: a different way of doing what they call jury by
32:08
Speaker 2: of your peers. And this one, this one, you don't
32:11
Speaker 2: even know. The process is ongoing. Uh, Kurt Weldon and
32:16
Speaker 2: some of the other people that are pushing for a
32:18
Speaker 2: presidential commission. And Kurt has been careful about saying this,
32:24
Speaker 2: no politicians and no bureaucrats, but even in the corporate
32:33
Speaker 2: sector sector of the world, you still have this deep
32:37
Speaker 2: state influence. Well, now, one of the interests, one of
32:43
Speaker 2: the one of the interesting things on our approach due
32:46
Speaker 2: to who is named in this lawsuit, no judge, pointed
32:50
Speaker 2: by George Herbert Walker Bush Bill Clinton, George Bush, Obama
32:54
Speaker 2: or Biden could sit on the case because of who
32:57
Speaker 2: is named and why they're named. And that's what I'm
33:03
Speaker 2: trying to get some of these people wake up to.
33:06
Speaker 2: Just like on the por Authority, their chronology goes all
33:09
Speaker 2: the way from nineteen eighty seven up till two thousand
33:14
Speaker 2: and two. The chronology and the Caspian Basin goes from
33:17
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two to two thousand and six. And some
33:22
Speaker 2: of the evidence, like the Donald Canistrero declaration, he didn't
33:27
Speaker 2: even do those interviews with the FBI and the CIA
33:31
Speaker 2: until twenty sixteen to twenty twenty one, and that interview
33:37
Speaker 2: reveals a lot. So all the way through here, you know,
33:42
Speaker 2: a single minded approbence is not going to get there.
33:47
Speaker 2: So what we have done, Captain Dan Hanley and I
33:50
Speaker 2: have done. We put it on the table in front
33:52
Speaker 2: of and some of them I know who have an
33:55
Speaker 2: attorneys hadn't even heard of this and requested I send
34:01
Speaker 2: them a copy of this power point so they could
34:04
Speaker 2: get their head around.
34:05
Speaker 1: It, right And and you've done that. So did you
34:09
Speaker 1: get a response from them?
34:12
Speaker 2: Not yet? But you know when I sent a few
34:15
Speaker 2: information initially it took you about to get your head around.
34:22
Speaker 1: That is absolutely true. That's yeah, I'm laughing, but yeah,
34:28
Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head there, because you
34:33
Speaker 1: really have to read into it. And of course this
34:37
Speaker 1: is what a lot of I got there. But it
34:41
Speaker 1: did take me a lot of time because you'd send
34:44
Speaker 1: me your book, which you know required reading, and then
34:49
Speaker 1: you sent me you sent me the PowerPoint presentation. But
34:54
Speaker 1: to actually get get my head around all of that information,
35:00
Speaker 1: I had to talk to you again and then go
35:02
Speaker 1: and revisit everything. It's one of the things that I
35:08
Speaker 1: have come to learn in a completely different area. But
35:12
Speaker 1: it's the subject of child abuse. Is that I'll particularly
35:20
Speaker 1: just talk about this because it's been happening in recent weeks.
35:23
Speaker 1: But I've been contacted by journalists in the bigger newspapers
35:28
Speaker 1: in UK. I've suddenly got them coming to me and
35:33
Speaker 1: they're saying, we've come to you because we're trying to
35:36
Speaker 1: work on a case. And the person involved in that
35:39
Speaker 1: case has said, if you want to know how the
35:42
Speaker 1: system works, speak to Brian Irish. So I've been very
35:46
Speaker 1: happy to talk to these journalists. But the problem is
35:50
Speaker 1: they know nothing and when you start to say to them, well,
35:55
Speaker 1: before I can explain, before I can explain why I've
36:02
Speaker 1: got to explain X to you, because if you don't
36:06
Speaker 1: understand how X works, you can't understand why you're having
36:13
Speaker 1: You know, you're having a reasonable conversation with these people,
36:16
Speaker 1: but you know, the big thing is they don't want
36:19
Speaker 1: to give the time to actually understand what's happening. And
36:23
Speaker 1: this is absolutely true with legal people. I'm using the
36:27
Speaker 1: example of journalists, but it's also true with legal people.
36:32
Speaker 1: The more senior they are in the legal system, the
36:35
Speaker 1: more they want the thing delivered to them as all
36:40
Speaker 1: the work done, bullet points tied up with a ribbon,
36:44
Speaker 1: so virtually they don't have to do any work. If
36:47
Speaker 1: you say to a senior legal person, you actually need
36:51
Speaker 1: sit down and look at this for two days, they're
36:55
Speaker 1: already backpedaling. Maybe I'm being maybe on being on coin here,
37:01
Speaker 1: because there are legal people who stuck their noses into
37:04
Speaker 1: knowing the level truth, but the wider system, to me,
37:08
Speaker 1: this is the problem. They don't want to do the
37:10
Speaker 1: work to see the evidence.
37:13
Speaker 2: That's true, and especially if they have to work at
37:16
Speaker 2: it to understand it. Let me share this with the
37:20
Speaker 2: listeners and you. The last Friday, I send an email
37:26
Speaker 2: to Trump's appointing, who was the new US attorney for Washington,
37:31
Speaker 2: d C. He had a very interesting interview with Tucker
37:35
Speaker 2: Carlson about what their focus was, so I sent him
37:39
Speaker 2: some information. Over the weekend, I get an email from
37:44
Speaker 2: Mary Fanning. She is the producer of a radio show
37:49
Speaker 2: that airs three hours every Saturday night in the US,
37:53
Speaker 2: huge following, usually over eight million, sometimes more. But she
38:00
Speaker 2: was requesting a copy of the power point and I
38:04
Speaker 2: had to email her back. I said, well, there's multiple
38:07
Speaker 2: power points, which one you want or the PDFs? And
38:13
Speaker 2: what she wanted was exactly what I cited to Edward Martin,
38:18
Speaker 2: who's the new Jurney Center for Boshington, d C. She
38:24
Speaker 2: wanted chapter five of my book and chapter seven of
38:27
Speaker 2: my book. What's interesting about chapter five, I'm not only
38:30
Speaker 2: talking about what the anthrax vaccine did to the soldiers.
38:35
Speaker 2: I mean just it ruins their health, okay, but also
38:39
Speaker 2: exposed who the most likely suspect was. And I've done
38:44
Speaker 2: that to the Department of Justice. Now. Five people died
38:49
Speaker 2: one week after September eleventh because of the anthrax attack
38:52
Speaker 2: on three senior Democrat members of the Compress. Two senators
38:57
Speaker 2: and the Speaker of the House and on down. In
39:02
Speaker 2: chapter seven, it deals with the dirty bomb suspect. FBI
39:08
Speaker 2: blows this out to the whole United States and Canada.
39:11
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we have a dirty, dirty bomb suspect
39:15
Speaker 2: who they pointed the finger at. And I've never said
39:20
Speaker 2: this on a video or radio, but I'm going to
39:21
Speaker 2: say it here because it's time for the truth. This
39:27
Speaker 2: was a medical student at Master University, Hamilton, Ontario, and
39:34
Speaker 2: who made the phone call from my house was a
39:37
Speaker 2: Canadian woman I was dating for about three years after
39:40
Speaker 2: my divorce in two thousand and two. When she called,
39:45
Speaker 2: they never and exactly where he is. They never called him,
39:50
Speaker 2: They never went to talk to him. They changed their
39:53
Speaker 2: strategy of announcing like a bogo word. Oh, the dirty
39:57
Speaker 2: bomb suspect's been seen in main Now this is something
40:02
Speaker 2: she knew about him. He was living there, attending school
40:07
Speaker 2: under an assumed name. And this is how this is
40:11
Speaker 2: how small So these are what circles are. The reason
40:14
Speaker 2: he was under an alias is he was one of
40:17
Speaker 2: the people that the CIA was trying to lean on
40:21
Speaker 2: to get him to cooperate with their little cover up
40:24
Speaker 2: story about radical Islamic mables, right, I mean, okay, yeah.
40:32
Speaker 1: Stick with this, stick with this media channel with millions
40:39
Speaker 1: of view as you you get asked to provide them
40:43
Speaker 1: with information. And did you give this lady the information?
40:48
Speaker 2: Yes, but chapter chapter five and seven of my books.
40:53
Speaker 2: She's only had it for twenty four hours, so you know,
40:57
Speaker 2: I figured she won't she won't be calling me till
40:59
Speaker 2: tomorrow or maybe Friday.
41:00
Speaker 1: Right, but are you optimistic that they're likely to do
41:05
Speaker 1: something to broadcast something asking or talking about this subject.
41:10
Speaker 2: Yes, how they do it is not a podcast, it's
41:13
Speaker 2: radio show, okay, Right. And the guy that's the host
41:18
Speaker 2: of the Art Midnight he used to be part of
41:20
Speaker 2: the Coast to Coast AM, which is one of the
41:22
Speaker 2: biggest radio networks in the United States. They have worsens
41:26
Speaker 2: in Canada.
41:28
Speaker 1: Right, So what we we've discussed the problem of the
41:33
Speaker 1: fact that people always want their information in small bites. Initially,
41:37
Speaker 1: maybe I'm also guilty of that in your case, but
41:41
Speaker 1: when you spend the time, you realize that what you're
41:45
Speaker 1: looking at is very very important stuff. So if this
41:49
Speaker 1: channel broadcasts, this is also going to be a major
41:55
Speaker 1: stepping step forward because this is going to be new
41:59
Speaker 1: information and in relation to nine eleven brought to the
42:02
Speaker 1: American public as a whole.
42:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, see, one of the one of the problems us
42:08
Speaker 2: see with the media. And that's why I sent you that.
42:12
Speaker 2: I sent you the link to the very Swicker, the Canadian,
42:15
Speaker 2: very very swicker. He did a brilliant the Great Conspiracy,
42:22
Speaker 2: broke down the media breakdowns and just really nailed it
42:26
Speaker 2: as far as what's wrong. We have people in this
42:29
Speaker 2: world to think looking at the little sound bite they
42:32
Speaker 2: just saw on TV makes them informed, and they're not informed.
42:37
Speaker 2: All they're listening to is exactly what the government wants.
42:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, this this, this is a little little bit broken
42:54
Speaker 1: up again. Cal Well, we'll because I know you're just
42:58
Speaker 1: you're just on your phone. Let's stick with it. But
43:01
Speaker 1: just say that now, you did an interview with Tucker Carlson.
43:08
Speaker 1: Is that correct?
43:12
Speaker 2: No? No, I have not done one with him or
43:15
Speaker 2: Clayton Morris. Yet. They both know who I am, they
43:19
Speaker 2: know what I'm presenting. Tucker prefers to come to Hillas
43:23
Speaker 2: and they do it face to face. So that's not
43:25
Speaker 2: possible for me right now. But well, Clayton Morris, the
43:29
Speaker 2: way he does it, I'll be a schedule for him
43:32
Speaker 2: real quick, because then would get more to the American audience. Yeah,
43:37
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't realize a lot of people
43:38
Speaker 2: don't realize Clayton Morris and Tucker Carlson worked at the
43:42
Speaker 2: same time at Fox News. You know they know each other.
43:47
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't. I must mean I didn't realize that.
43:54
Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember when Redacted first started, it was Abbie Martin.
44:00
Speaker 2: She went from she went from RT and she got
44:04
Speaker 2: fired from our team because she insulted Putin. She claimed
44:10
Speaker 2: that Putin In vadi Crimea and he didn't. And then
44:15
Speaker 2: she went redacted for a while and then she's now
44:19
Speaker 2: on something called The Empirephiles. Right.
44:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I can't resist asking this, Carle. We did
44:28
Speaker 1: talk about it a little bit. But there are these
44:32
Speaker 1: two big media out well three with the radio, but
44:38
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson and Redacted obviously very big alternative channels in America.
44:45
Speaker 1: How did you end up coming to the UK column?
44:50
Speaker 1: A UK based How did that work?
44:55
Speaker 2: I had tried many times to get Tucker crossing heads. Uh,
45:01
Speaker 2: but then one day a friend of mine's sent me
45:04
Speaker 2: the link to your website about the Joseph Swinging interview,
45:09
Speaker 2: and he just said this is a radio show guy
45:12
Speaker 2: from Montana. He's now retired from radio. But he said, Carl,
45:16
Speaker 2: this is right up your alley. Listened to this and anyway,
45:21
Speaker 2: I listened to your I listened to the interview that
45:24
Speaker 2: you haven't swinging, and you know, I have touch points
45:28
Speaker 2: with almost everything he said right just in just in
45:33
Speaker 2: our investigation of nine to even meat being from Motorrock Rpansas,
45:38
Speaker 2: my knowledge of the Clintons.
45:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, So from from that interview, I think I think
45:46
Speaker 1: we did actually briefly touch on this in one of
45:49
Speaker 1: the uh two in the two interviews that we did,
45:53
Speaker 1: but it was very brief. So you listened to that
45:56
Speaker 1: interview and you were you were here more than the
46:01
Speaker 1: average person would have been picking up on what he
46:03
Speaker 1: was saying, because he at one point he talked about
46:07
Speaker 1: an individual who broke the law by going to research
46:15
Speaker 1: documents and then actually destroying some of those documents. That
46:19
Speaker 1: was the key story, I.
46:20
Speaker 2: Think Denny Berger, Yep, I mean he stole some very
46:25
Speaker 2: key documents of pre nine or even objects, destroyed them,
46:30
Speaker 2: and he got caught and basically for eleven felonies. He
46:35
Speaker 2: got hit with a misdemeanor in no jail time. Yeah,
46:39
Speaker 2: I mean that was ridiculously Why I mean what he
46:42
Speaker 2: valid it was the spon object, which usually will get
46:48
Speaker 2: you away from prison.
46:51
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, So overall, what what what have you done?
47:02
Speaker 2: You have.
47:05
Speaker 1: Thrown another rock into the nine to eleven pond, and
47:09
Speaker 1: I'm going to say the ripples have spread and we
47:12
Speaker 1: are now starting to see some things stirred up as
47:17
Speaker 1: a result of that rock in the pond. How how
47:24
Speaker 1: can we how can we work together that that that's
47:30
Speaker 1: a very big wi How can people work together now
47:34
Speaker 1: to make best use of the additional information that you
47:39
Speaker 1: and your team are brought to the surface. How can
47:42
Speaker 1: we get more force out of the nine to eleven movement?
47:49
Speaker 1: All of these professional people who've been fighting for many years.
47:53
Speaker 1: How do we get them now redoubling their efforts to
47:58
Speaker 1: make a real impact on the particularly It's got to
48:02
Speaker 1: be on the Trump regime, hasn't it?
48:05
Speaker 2: Well? Right now, I'm just doing what I know. I'm
48:08
Speaker 2: put I put a lot of facts on the table.
48:11
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people didn't read my books,
48:13
Speaker 2: so they didn't even know about the book. One of
48:17
Speaker 2: the things that I'm doing now is I'm trying to
48:20
Speaker 2: make it, uh, you know, more reachable for other people,
48:24
Speaker 2: like contacting you know, the nations who lost citizens on
48:28
Speaker 2: nine to eleven, going straight to them and say, yeah,
48:34
Speaker 2: your citizens were you know, we'd like you to join
48:38
Speaker 2: us and this lawsuit. You know, small things like that.
48:43
Speaker 2: I'll be I'll be trying to communicate with this William
48:46
Speaker 2: Rodriguez later today, maybe tomorrow. He's actually in Europe doing
48:49
Speaker 2: speaking to her right now, trying to get people to
48:52
Speaker 2: wake up. Because a lot of a lot of nations
48:56
Speaker 2: in Europe, you France, Germany, Sweden, So.
49:04
Speaker 1: Spreading the word is always important. And although I've focused
49:10
Speaker 1: in that, I'm focused in on the Trump administration. Of
49:16
Speaker 1: course all of these other nation states that have been
49:19
Speaker 1: drawn into this morass should be wanting to take the
49:24
Speaker 1: right course and getting the truth out about what's actually happened.
49:28
Speaker 1: So yes, as he is doing informing people has got
49:34
Speaker 1: a power of its own.
49:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has. Some of these nations. I'm contacting him,
49:42
Speaker 2: I'm telling them point blame. You know, if for any
49:45
Speaker 2: reason you don't join with us, understand that as a group,
49:49
Speaker 2: be plaintiff. Who you lost as group, be plaintiff, and
49:52
Speaker 2: we will stand for them. So maybe when they read
49:57
Speaker 2: what I sent them. They will understand they have a
49:59
Speaker 2: duty to their own to do the right thing.
50:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.
50:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now I don't know if they will, but time
50:07
Speaker 2: will tell.
50:09
Speaker 1: Okay. We are absolutely encouraging people to watch the first
50:17
Speaker 1: two interviews that we did, because I suspect there'll be
50:19
Speaker 1: people who pick up on this video and they'll watch
50:22
Speaker 1: it and they won't really know what we're talking about
50:25
Speaker 1: because they won't have seen part one and part two.
50:27
Speaker 1: So I would say to the audience, now, if you
50:31
Speaker 1: haven't seen either of those two interviews, you need to
50:35
Speaker 1: watch them because this is the meat of the discussion
50:39
Speaker 1: today and the other bits I just want to touch
50:43
Speaker 1: on as we're coming I think we're sort of coming
50:45
Speaker 1: up to the top of the hour. Is people have
50:49
Speaker 1: been very fascinated by you, Carl, because they've they've some
50:55
Speaker 1: people have said to me, so, where's this man come from.
50:59
Speaker 1: He's appeared out of nowhere. He's got a lot of information,
51:02
Speaker 1: He's obviously done a lot of work. You did talk
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Speaker 1: about yourself a little.
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Speaker 2: Bit in.
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Speaker 1: Part one, but one of the things that we didn't
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Speaker 1: really cover very much is that you've got a particular
51:15
Speaker 1: interest in nanotechnology, and it would seem logical to me
51:23
Speaker 1: at least that this has helped stimulate your interest in
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Speaker 1: nine to eleven, because you were very quick to come
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Speaker 1: to the conclusion that nano fermite had been used in
51:36
Speaker 1: order to get these immensely hot reactions. Can you tell
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Speaker 1: us are you able to tell us a little a
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Speaker 1: bit more about your interest in nanotechnology?
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Speaker 2: Well, we started this research in thousand. Two thousand and three,
51:53
Speaker 2: we had established ourselves as number one. I did a
51:58
Speaker 2: lot of work behind the scenes with Jarbune and also
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Speaker 2: what they call Pentagon tis WIG, which is Technical Science
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Speaker 2: Working Group. I practiced architecture for a while, but I
52:10
Speaker 2: mean I always had a feeling there was something more dynamic,
52:15
Speaker 2: something even stronger, you know, even different, different approach and
52:20
Speaker 2: steps forward in material science. That's what engineering and architecture is,
52:25
Speaker 2: this application of material science, you know, with a design process.
52:30
Speaker 2: So we jumped off into that and by December two
52:33
Speaker 2: thousand and three we had established ourselves number one. We're
52:37
Speaker 2: dealing directly with some major issues in America. But we
52:41
Speaker 2: also made a big discovery about why, I mean, we
52:45
Speaker 2: can make our nanial machines fifty or sixty hertz, but
52:49
Speaker 2: to do industrial volume, high purity, high strength we have
52:54
Speaker 2: to be on fifty her stride. So that's why I
52:56
Speaker 2: moved to Europe. You know, I didn't move to Europe
52:59
Speaker 2: because I will the book about George Bush. So we
53:04
Speaker 2: I got invited to the Berlin Air Show to be
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Speaker 2: the keynote speaker because we're the only company that can
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Speaker 2: produce enough to do what Russia had ordered. They ordered
53:16
Speaker 2: eighty of those huge anton Off jets, and they had
53:19
Speaker 2: an option to order eighty more and kid made and
53:22
Speaker 2: killed all that. You know, it's been a constant clash
53:27
Speaker 2: with the US over here. Even at the air show,
53:30
Speaker 2: they tried to drown me out. They didn't want anybody
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Speaker 2: hearing what I had to say.
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Speaker 1: Right, So what's the What was the connection between the
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Speaker 1: air show and nano technology? Then these big.
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Speaker 2: Jets, these big jets, they have to have a lot
53:48
Speaker 2: of the carbon nanostructures in the tail sections and the wings,
53:54
Speaker 2: but otherwise way too much, you know, you having to
53:59
Speaker 2: look for a lighterman materials. They're strong. So yeah, we
54:02
Speaker 2: were the only one that could fill that contract. Russia
54:05
Speaker 2: moved it all to back to Russia, including the jet
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Speaker 2: engine plant. But they're not using our nano technology level.
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Speaker 2: They're using it weaker, so over time they're going to
54:17
Speaker 2: have to reorder the just sooner. But I had I
54:23
Speaker 2: had quite a few classes with the US.
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Speaker 1: Over here, right. But essentially in this sector, this is
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Speaker 1: the creation of lighter, stronger composite materials. They can be
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Speaker 1: used in aircraft construction. And those composites are created by
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Speaker 1: the use of nanotechnology.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. And for example, once you reach our purity level
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Speaker 2: in compressive strength, the carbon nanotube is twenty three times
54:54
Speaker 2: the strength of steel, and carbon nanofibers are fifteens times
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Speaker 2: stronger than kevlar, and kevlar will stopped built. Right, So
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Speaker 2: this is this is the type of advancement. I had
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Speaker 2: a feeling when I was practicing architecture in the early
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Speaker 2: eighties that there was something like this. I didn't even
55:14
Speaker 2: know what to call it. You know, the word nanotech
55:17
Speaker 2: had not even not even come up yet. And right
55:21
Speaker 2: now we're working on some things very exciting. People were
55:25
Speaker 2: concerned about, you know, the pollution, and a lot of
55:29
Speaker 2: people were starting to turn their back on these EV cars.
55:33
Speaker 2: I mean, to build one EV battery for a car,
55:37
Speaker 2: you have to excavate about five hundred thousand tons of
55:40
Speaker 2: earth and then you have to do the processing, the
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Speaker 2: metal refirement and everything. If it's with them ion those
55:50
Speaker 2: ponds where they reach it will be dead zones forever.
55:54
Speaker 2: And we're we've already talked to two major overmakers about
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Speaker 2: what we're calling nano e EV, the high purity NATO structures.
56:04
Speaker 2: When they're spinning, you'd have an electric generator under your
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Speaker 2: car hood, no fuel input whatsoever, no fire hazard hazard,
56:14
Speaker 2: no toxic issues creating the battery or trying to dispose
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Speaker 2: of the battery. So it's it's a paradigm week four.
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Speaker 2: And what we're doing right now, I'm working behind the
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Speaker 2: scenes on two point five billion dollar financing package, but
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Speaker 2: it's going to take months to get there, right. And
56:34
Speaker 2: here's what yeah, here's what's interesting. That is a triple
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Speaker 2: A rated insured loan. I've already been through six months
56:45
Speaker 2: of due diligence, but the London London experts on insurance,
56:50
Speaker 2: I got to proved for a billion and Bush Bush
56:54
Speaker 2: did everything in their power to block me on getting
56:56
Speaker 2: that done. So I went back to them and I said,
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Speaker 2: take a look at nano EV, and they said, how
57:02
Speaker 2: much do you need? I said, it's going to take
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Speaker 2: about two and a half right, So they said, okay,
57:10
Speaker 2: start talking to banks and tell them turm sheet and
57:14
Speaker 2: all three parties to start talking soon.
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Speaker 1: Are you Are you able to mention the name of
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Speaker 1: your your company?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tota Nanotech Group, and I own I own that
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Speaker 2: group outright, and the patents and everything are protected by
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Speaker 2: my family office family office structure. But this nano EV
57:37
Speaker 2: thing is going to be the only operation we have
57:41
Speaker 2: for outside people that are stepping in to help me
57:44
Speaker 2: because of what the United States has done to me.
57:49
Speaker 2: You know, they're going to have an interest in that
57:50
Speaker 2: new company. It's privately held, right.
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Speaker 1: This This is cal This is a very interesting subject
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Speaker 1: in its own right because well, I'm happy to say
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Speaker 1: I have long shared concerns about the existing evs because
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Speaker 1: of one, the way the government has sort of enforced
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Speaker 1: a changeover towards electric vehicles, but also because of the
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Speaker 1: human and environmental damage done in creation of the batteries,
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Speaker 1: which you've touched on there.
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Speaker 2: The environmental damage is coassal, and.
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Speaker 1: That's largely been swept under the media carpet because we
58:36
Speaker 1: don't see any of the bigger channels really talking about this.
58:39
Speaker 1: But it is a shame that we live in a
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Speaker 1: world now where because so much new technology gets used
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Speaker 1: for the wrong purposes or is used in a way
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Speaker 1: where we're not actually helping mankind, we're suppressing mankind. There's
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Speaker 1: a tendency for people to be suspecies of all new technology.
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Speaker 1: But it is it is sorry if I just finished this,
59:05
Speaker 1: it is very clear that we do have technologies that,
59:09
Speaker 1: if they were to be used properly, would bring huge
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Speaker 1: benefits to mankind.
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Speaker 2: Exactly early on when I moved to Europe, we were
59:22
Speaker 2: teamed up with the Hungarian company. They got a two
59:27
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million euro own grant to deal with
59:29
Speaker 2: the Teaser River and the TiSER Aqua Ferm because of
59:34
Speaker 2: a huge problem. And that problem was high levels of
59:38
Speaker 2: arsenic and cyanad in the in the table water. You know,
59:42
Speaker 2: people trying to take a shower over there, you need
59:47
Speaker 2: more brush your teeth with the tapwater. And we have
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Speaker 2: nano filters as part of our process that allows us
59:56
Speaker 2: to get to ninety five greater ninety nine percent purity.
1:00:00
Speaker 2: They could trap that, it's called specific trap technology, and
1:00:06
Speaker 2: you can't do it unless you're in our weave. And
1:00:09
Speaker 2: I mean the Hungarian government, even the EU got real
1:00:12
Speaker 2: excited about it until Bush put his cousin over there
1:00:17
Speaker 2: and basically knife that whole project in the back. Not
1:00:20
Speaker 2: just to tease the river, my company, right, And that's
1:00:24
Speaker 2: because I wrote the book on it, and I will
1:00:27
Speaker 2: not retract one word of that book or the two
1:00:30
Speaker 2: hundred articles I've written.
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Speaker 1: And we just asked the simple question, why would why
1:00:37
Speaker 1: would Bush want to do this? Because the technologies that
1:00:40
Speaker 1: you and presumably other people are working on would undermine
1:00:46
Speaker 1: his business interests? Is that the motivation?
1:00:50
Speaker 2: No? No, this would just childish crap because I expose
1:00:54
Speaker 2: him and his family for what they are, right, and
1:00:58
Speaker 2: you know, understand, understand once nan a wedding, truth is
1:01:01
Speaker 2: on the table. George Bush is in deep trouble. Yeah,
1:01:08
Speaker 2: and so was Dick Cheneing and a whole long line
1:01:11
Speaker 2: of people Like I said, I won't retract a word
1:01:19
Speaker 2: of what I've written or said on the radio, because
1:01:23
Speaker 2: the truth is like a lion, you just let it
1:01:26
Speaker 2: out there his defend itself.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh. I think that brings us to a
1:01:32
Speaker 1: close ready called let's ask the key question. I always
1:01:36
Speaker 1: like to ask this. So you've got you've got the
1:01:39
Speaker 1: UK column audience at the moment, What would you like
1:01:43
Speaker 1: to say to them?
1:01:44
Speaker 2: What?
1:01:44
Speaker 1: What should they be doing? What would you like to
1:01:46
Speaker 1: see them doing with the information that you have put out?
1:01:51
Speaker 2: I would I would ask them to spread it far
1:01:53
Speaker 2: and wide, and you'd be amazed how many people in
1:01:55
Speaker 2: the United States and even Japan and Europe are also
1:01:58
Speaker 2: watching these three yours. They've already seen the first two. Right.
1:02:05
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to say thank you very much for that.
1:02:09
Speaker 1: It is very encouraging that UK column does what it does.
1:02:14
Speaker 1: As a result, you have somebody has seen us and
1:02:18
Speaker 1: put you in contact and now we are managing to
1:02:21
Speaker 1: do something which hopefully is going to help your work
1:02:24
Speaker 1: and initiative over the last few years. So that's a
1:02:28
Speaker 1: very positive point to end on.
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Speaker 2: I think that is thank you for having me on.
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Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure. Thank you very much, gol