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9-03-26 Hour 3 - Jeff Legwold/Chad Brown (once Vic's ready for him)/Restoring CU's Prime Time Shine · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 4: are joined by Jeff Legwald of ESPN.com, as we are
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  Speaker 4: every single Thursday. First of all, Leggy, thank you for
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  Speaker 4: joining us. Second of all, the news from the NBA
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  Speaker 4: today and the punitive nature in which they came down
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  Speaker 4: on the Clippers. What's the biggest punishment you remember in
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  Speaker 4: football in recent memory?
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  Speaker 5: Wow, that is a good question. You know, probably the Patriots.
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  Speaker 5: got hammered pretty good for....
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  Speaker 3: The flight gate?
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  Speaker 5: Spy gate.
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  Speaker 3: Or spy gate.
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  Speaker 5: I got a bigger one for you. Spy gate.
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  Speaker 6: And I got a bigger one.
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  Speaker 7: Well, and I was just going to say, Hornig, Paul Hornig,
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  Speaker 7: Alex Kerr, it's way back, but a gambling scandal. They
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  Speaker 7: were suspended for full seasons.
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  Speaker 3: I have a more recent one.
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  Speaker 5: Both guys eventually.
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  Speaker 6: The head coach of the Denver Broncos had to go
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  Speaker 6: away for a year when he.
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  Speaker 5: Was head coach of the Northern Saints. Yeah, no, he
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  Speaker 5: was suspended. That was... That was going to be my
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  Speaker 5: bronze medalist on the podium. Yes.
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  Speaker 7: He got suspended for a year. I think the team
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  Speaker 7: got fined. And the Broncos actually got dinged pretty good
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  Speaker 7: for their own spygate. That was a pretty hefty fine
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  Speaker 7: that Pat Bolin was not happy about.
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  Speaker 5: Back in the day.
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  Speaker 7: And Josh McDaniels eventually got fired after that.
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  Speaker 3: Has there been concern about NFL teams circumventing the cap?
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  Speaker 3: Has that ever been a concern?
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  Speaker 2: The Broncos were.
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  Speaker 5: Accused of that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Al Davis always used to say Pat Bowen was circumventing
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  Speaker 7: the cap when the Super Bowl teams were rolling along.
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  Speaker 7: I think that the NFL cap is a little harder
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  Speaker 7: to circumvent in how the Clippers did it because, you know,
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  Speaker 7: that sort of spending is outside of the, you know,
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  Speaker 7: I think you could somehow link your players to your
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  Speaker 7: sponsorship deals, but I don't think it would be as
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  Speaker 7: easy to do cap-wise as it was.
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  Speaker 5: In the NBA.
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  Speaker 7: Now, I would guess that if they have their management
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  Speaker 7: counsel or whatever, they would try to address how that
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  Speaker 7: was done and what it looks like in the future.
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  Speaker 6: Jeffrey, given Sean Payton's history with the NFL, and he's
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  Speaker 6: had some run-ins, And he's not been shy about complaining
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  Speaker 6: and criticizing the National Football League. Do you think the
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  Speaker 6: league has it out for Sean Payton?
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  Speaker 5: I do not.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, if they had it out for everybody that
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  Speaker 7: criticized officiating or how they do business or they'd have
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  Speaker 7: it out for, you know, 28 of the 32 coaches
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  Speaker 7: in any season, you know, I don't think like they–
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  Speaker 7: fans often ask me if, you know, they got their
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  Speaker 7: first six games of the season because they don't like
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  Speaker 7: Sean Payton, you know, or, you know, how certain road
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  Speaker 7: trips look or teams coming off the bye week against them,
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  Speaker 7: all that.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that really happens.
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  Speaker 7: Not, you know, when Roger Goodell retires and Sean Payton retires,
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  Speaker 7: I doubt they're going to go play golf very much
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  Speaker 7: or anything, but I don't think there's a, you know,
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  Speaker 7: we're going to come at you without any cause type
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  Speaker 7: of thing going on.
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  Speaker 6: Because remember what he said when the schedule came out?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: The first six games of this season. I've never seen
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  Speaker 6: anything like this.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be difficult like a mother. But, Jeff,
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  Speaker 2: after all these years, do you have it out for me?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think most people do. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to clarify because the bubble thing at
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  Speaker 2: training camp and everything, I'm kicked out.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you didn't really come this year, so I didn't
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  Speaker 5: get a chance.
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  Speaker 2: To kick you out of the bubble. No, I stayed
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  Speaker 2: on the other side of the field. I did not
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  Speaker 2: want to be around you. Hey, that being said.
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  Speaker 5: That's a very popular.
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  Speaker 7: 53 players.
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  Speaker 5: And a big coaching staff would say the same thing
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  Speaker 5: right now.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, that being said, I read your little thing about
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  Speaker 2: the key for Davis Webb in the offense this year.
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  Speaker 2: And it's very interesting to me. It just seems like
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people... are incredibly high on this right now.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, like, it has to succeed. What's
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  Speaker 2: your overall feeling, again, with the tempo, the tweaks to
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  Speaker 2: the Peyton offensive structure and playbook? What are you thinking
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  Speaker 2: right now?
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  Speaker 7: Well, you know, you can go by what you've seen and,
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  Speaker 7: you know, the parts they've unveiled. Like this week, we
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  Speaker 7: saw a little more of what they have planned for
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  Speaker 7: Kansas City this week.
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  Speaker 5: And last week a little bit too.
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  Speaker 7: I've learned the difference over the years of when they're
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  Speaker 7: just doing practice stuff and when they're doing the opponent.
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  Speaker 7: And they've, they did a lot more opponent stuff last
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  Speaker 7: week and this week, this week, especially. And, and I
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  Speaker 7: think today they're having a walkthrough today before the big
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  Speaker 7: kickoff luncheon deal. And I think that walkthrough will probably
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  Speaker 7: be most entirely Kansas city. The, The important thing here
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  Speaker 7: is two things. Sean Payton picked Davis Webb for this
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  Speaker 7: because he's Davis Webb. He's got the confidence. You got
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  Speaker 7: to have a lot of confidence to hold up in
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  Speaker 7: being the first guy to be the play caller for
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  Speaker 7: Sean Payton other than Sean Payton. And he's got that.
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  Speaker 7: And I think what we've seen is, and Sean has
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  Speaker 7: sort of joked about as you get older, you sort
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  Speaker 7: of worry about the consequences of things instead of just
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  Speaker 7: doing what you've always done.
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  Speaker 5: Like he said, calling.
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  Speaker 7: Plays, it slowed him down that he'd be working through
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  Speaker 7: the consequences of the play. Like, what if this doesn't work?
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  Speaker 7: Then we're going to be third and eight. And then
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  Speaker 7: suddenly the play clock's at eight. Bo Nix is like, hey,
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  Speaker 7: let's get the play in. And I think that tempo
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  Speaker 7: has been really good in practice and in preseason games. Now,
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  Speaker 7: you know, in the regular season, we'll see what it
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  Speaker 7: looks like, but the reports are good on that. And
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  Speaker 7: the second thing is the players really like this, you know,
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  Speaker 7: I mean, Davis Webb was a teammate of Evan Ingram's,
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  Speaker 7: you know, with the Giants and he's, he's a year
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  Speaker 7: older than Jarrett Stidham, you know, so this, this has
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  Speaker 7: a different feel for the players and at least initially
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  Speaker 7: they like that now success will make coaches and players
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  Speaker 7: like anything or anybody so you know the the little
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  Speaker 7: kumbaya right now is is a good thing but to
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  Speaker 7: keep that you're going to have to be successful and
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  Speaker 7: that part of it we don't know yet but that
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  Speaker 7: if he's successful it won't be a very long experiment
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  Speaker 7: anyway because he was already getting feelers for head coaching
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  Speaker 7: jobs before he had called a play. And if the
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  Speaker 7: Broncos have a big season, he'll move to the front
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  Speaker 7: of the line pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff Leibold, ESPN.com.
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  Speaker 4: International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, IBEW Local 68.
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  Speaker 3: Start with a job and with a career on that subject.
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  Speaker 4: So what we have here is a successful head coach
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  Speaker 4: with a track record of success who is a veteran
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  Speaker 4: play caller, who's offensive-minded, who has now installed a younger
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  Speaker 4: offensive coordinator for a job. Does Davis Webb have a
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  Speaker 4: bigger impact on the Broncos' offense, or will Mike McDaniel,
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  Speaker 4: who's in a much similar situation in L.A., have a
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  Speaker 4: bigger impact on the Chargers' offense?
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  Speaker 7: I would guess McDaniel would have a bigger impact on
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  Speaker 7: the Chargers' offense schematically because he was hired to bring
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  Speaker 7: philosophical things with him in the scheme he's run. They
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  Speaker 7: wanted to hire his ideas as well as him. You know,
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  Speaker 7: Davis was already here. Now there will be tweaks. And
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  Speaker 7: I think, you know, it's funny when sort of we
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  Speaker 7: in the media and fans talk about offense, we're really
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  Speaker 7: talking about the passing game a lot of the time.
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  Speaker 7: That's just how we do the semantics of it all.
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  Speaker 7: But Davis's big impact may be in the run game.
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  Speaker 5: Cause at least in.
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  Speaker 7: The parts where I've, I've charted practice and discern, you know,
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  Speaker 7: what I've seen before and what I have seen in
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  Speaker 7: Sean playbook, Sean Payton's playbooks before the, some of the
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  Speaker 7: biggest tweaks I've seen so far are in the run game.
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  Speaker 7: And that, that is probably a big reason why Peyton
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  Speaker 7: made the decision as well. But I think, and, and,
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  Speaker 7: Just the, you know, it's going to be difficult to
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  Speaker 7: tell at some point, like how much impact does this
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  Speaker 7: simply the arrival of Jalen Waddell having on some of
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  Speaker 7: these things or and how much of it is actually
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  Speaker 7: a tweak in the schematics? Like it could be the
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  Speaker 7: same play they ran last year. It's just that Jalen
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  Speaker 7: Waddell's running that play now. And suddenly there's a lot
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  Speaker 7: more space for everybody else to work.
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  Speaker 6: Jeffrey, I have a two-part question, and I know you'll
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  Speaker 6: be able to follow it. These guys may not. First
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  Speaker 6: of all, have you ever been around a franchise, a team,
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  Speaker 6: that has had this much retention going from one season
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  Speaker 6: to the next, only six new players on this roster?
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  Speaker 2: That's amazing. That's the first part.
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  Speaker 6: The second part is if they knew the retention levels
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  Speaker 6: were going to be that high, A lot of people
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  Speaker 6: are wondering, why didn't they just trade away a lot
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  Speaker 6: of those late round picks and maybe store them, stock up,
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  Speaker 6: maybe move up in the draft? Why didn't they go
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  Speaker 6: that route?
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  Speaker 7: Well, the issue with that is because they also understand
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  Speaker 7: what 2027 and 2028 are going to look like. And
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  Speaker 7: you're going to have to have some of the young
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  Speaker 7: players in the building to.
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  Speaker 5: Deal with that. Because next offseason, it's going to be
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  Speaker 5: a tight fit. salary cap.
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  Speaker 7: The retention rate next year won't be anywhere close to
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  Speaker 7: this year. And the only way a good team can
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  Speaker 7: continue being good in the NFL is you got to
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  Speaker 7: have draft picks that.
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  Speaker 5: You develop into players.
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  Speaker 7: Nick Benito as a rookie and Nick Benito now doesn't
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  Speaker 7: happen if they don't keep him in the building. Jaquan
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  Speaker 7: McMillan was an undrafted player he doesn't become one of
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  Speaker 7: the best nickel corners in the league if they don't
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  Speaker 7: keep them in the building.
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  Speaker 5: So you gotta, you gotta have those.
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  Speaker 7: Guys around because it's the only way you can replace
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  Speaker 7: when you start having to make salary cap decisions. And
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  Speaker 7: this year, the Broncos didn't have to make any salary
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  Speaker 7: cap decisions.
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  Speaker 5: That's why it looks this way.
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  Speaker 7: They have one of the least amount of dead money
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  Speaker 7: in the league this year. So, Next year doesn't look
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  Speaker 7: like that, and 2028 doesn't look like that because looming
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  Speaker 7: over all of this is Bo Nix is going to
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  Speaker 7: have to be signed to a contract at some point,
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  Speaker 7: and he will become the Broncos' highest-paid player at that moment,
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  Speaker 7: and that changes everything about how they can put their
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  Speaker 7: team together. And the only way the Rams went from
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  Speaker 7: being a Super Bowl team to now being back in
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  Speaker 7: the Super Bowl conversation as they were the youngest team
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  Speaker 7: in the league for two years in a row. That's
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  Speaker 7: how they did it. And that's going to be the
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  Speaker 7: only way the Broncos are going to be able to
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  Speaker 7: keep this together as well, no matter what happens this year.
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  Speaker 2: You should have been here about an hour and a
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  Speaker 2: half ago, your boy Brett Kane. They wrote this wild idea.
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  Speaker 2: What if Kirk Cousins leads the Raiders to Ted Wins
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  Speaker 2: and they get a wild card? I mean, it was
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  Speaker 2: like the dumbest thing, Jeff, you've ever heard. Just, just.
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  Speaker 3: That's a very butchered way of asking the question. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to say it now because if you're going
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  Speaker 4: to do this, I'm going to say, Jeff, I asked
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  Speaker 4: them to join me in make-believe land for a minute.
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  Speaker 5: And I based.
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  Speaker 7: They left that part out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I said, just hypothetically, Fernando Mendoza is the first.
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  Speaker 5: Isn't this always make-believe land?
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  Speaker 2: Of course.
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  Speaker 5: Of course it is.
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  Speaker 4: But Fernando Mendoza is the first number one overall pick
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  Speaker 4: at quarterback that hasn't started week one since Baker Mayfield.
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  Speaker 4: And I just said, I remember a couple of years ago,
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  Speaker 4: There's a team in Minnesota that had a veteran quarterback
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  Speaker 4: on their roster that led them to a whole bunch
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  Speaker 4: of wins in a playoff appearance. And they said, well,
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  Speaker 4: I drafted my guy in the first round. So by
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  Speaker 4: Sam Darnold, welcome to Seattle. We're going to play McCarthy.
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  Speaker 4: And now McCarthy doesn't play for them anymore. And so
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  Speaker 4: you said, what do you think happens in make-believe land?
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  Speaker 4: If Kirk Cousins like leads them to a playoff spot,
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  Speaker 4: do they still move on next year to Fernando Mendoza
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  Speaker 4: or what?
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  Speaker 2: That being said, I don't give a rat's rip about
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  Speaker 2: the Raiders. I'm not worried about them, but I know
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  Speaker 2: you talk to your fellow writers from other teams. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if you know Chris Rim and all these
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  Speaker 2: different people, but could you next week before the Broncos
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  Speaker 2: play on the following Monday, just, I mean, maybe get
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  Speaker 2: a real good feel from your fellow Charger people and
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  Speaker 2: KC people as to, you know, God's honest truth, what
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  Speaker 2: these teams, they think they're going to be.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I've done that with people I know
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  Speaker 5: with the teams.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: Because that's kind of what I do all day.
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  Speaker 2: Aren't Chargers people just going to be optimistic with you
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  Speaker 2: and say, oh, yeah, we were 11 wins last year.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to be 13 this year or whatever?
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  Speaker 7: I think the Chargers feel like they've got the offensive
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  Speaker 7: coaches to unlock Herbert. That's where their optimism is, that
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  Speaker 7: Mike McDaniel and Adam Gase is on that staff as
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  Speaker 7: well now too.
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  Speaker 8: He is.
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  Speaker 5: He is indeed. He's one of the quarterback's coaches.
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  Speaker 7: I know Adam's head coaching career has taken some dents
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  Speaker 7: from people in the public, but he also happens to
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  Speaker 7: be the guy to call plays for the only 600-point
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  Speaker 7: offense in the history of the NFL. I think they
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  Speaker 7: feel like with those two guys on this, that's what
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  Speaker 7: their optimism is. They feel like they've had a quarterback
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  Speaker 7: that hasn't been fully unleashed yet. And they think Mike McDaniel,
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  Speaker 7: you know, if the feeling is if he could do
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  Speaker 7: that with Tua, just think what he can do with Herbert.
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  Speaker 2: And Tua was, he got Tua to play some really,
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  Speaker 2: actually some really damn good football.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: They changed a lot of the ways people thought about
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  Speaker 7: pre-snap motion in the NFL. That was considered to use
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  Speaker 7: it as much as he did. They used it on
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  Speaker 7: every play. It wasn't just a, frosting on the cake.
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  Speaker 7: It was the whole cake when they did it. So
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  Speaker 7: that's where their optimism is from. And KC, I mean,
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  Speaker 7: their optimism is the same. They know they've had the
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  Speaker 7: erosion of a team made an extended Super Bowl run,
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  Speaker 7: won multiple Super Bowls, but they have not been particularly
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  Speaker 7: good in the draft. And that's what will get the
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  Speaker 7: Broncos if they don't continue this you know, section of
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  Speaker 7: their winning. If this doesn't happen for a longer period
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  Speaker 7: of time, it'll be because the Broncos weren't good enough
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  Speaker 7: in the draft to keep the roster together.
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  Speaker 5: And that's where KC, the.
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  Speaker 7: Optimism is Mahomes is back so he can pull whatever
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  Speaker 7: team we give him into the playoffs. But people in
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  Speaker 7: the league feel like they haven't done well enough in
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  Speaker 7: the draft to really keep it going as they get
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  Speaker 7: older and older.
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  Speaker 3: Last thing for you, Leggy.
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  Speaker 4: I just saw the Miami Dolphins claim seven players off
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  Speaker 4: of waivers, which I don't know if that's ever happened before.
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  Speaker 5: I don't remember it ever happening.
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  Speaker 3: They have 182 million.
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  Speaker 5: Two Broncos. Two Broncos, by the way.
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  Speaker 4: And 182 million in dead cap that they're dealing with
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  Speaker 4: this year. I looked at their roster legitimately. Could they
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  Speaker 4: not win a game this year?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 7: They've got a pretty good coaching staff and you gotta, you, you,
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  Speaker 7: you know, they spent some money on Malik Willis at
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  Speaker 7: quarterback and, and all those things. And you'd feel like,
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  Speaker 7: you know, you get some turnovers, maybe you get a
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  Speaker 7: couple of wins, but it's, we've seen winless happen. I didn't,
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  Speaker 7: I didn't know that I'd ever see that in my career,
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  Speaker 7: but we have seen it happen.
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  Speaker 5: So we know it, it is possible.
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  Speaker 7: I will say, having done 40 drafts now that, If
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  Speaker 7: you were going to be winless, this is a year
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  Speaker 7: to do it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not sure. Look, the draft unfolds.
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  Speaker 7: The college season is yet to be played, but projection,
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  Speaker 7: which is what the draft is, is a projection. The
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  Speaker 7: projection is it's been a long time since we've seen
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  Speaker 7: a draft like the one that's coming. So if you're
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  Speaker 7: going to stink, this is an okay year to stink.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, not for the fans.
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  Speaker 7: It's going to be a long year for Dolphin fans.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: But I give them credit.
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: I've seen way too many teams die of 1,000 paper cuts,
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: and it never works. And people do it because the
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: owner says we've got to sell tickets and all these business.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: Of business things.
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: And I get it is a business, but you don't recover.
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: Look at the Cleveland Browns. They keep doing the same
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: things every year because they won't do what.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: The Dolphins did.
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: The Dolphins essentially said, we're tearing it down to the
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: foundation and, you know, going to get it going, you know,
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: from here. And, you know, they've gone young and athletic
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: because they have to. But they looked at the Broncos.
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: You know, the Broncos influenced a lot of people. Look
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: at the teams taking on dead money this year. It's
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: a lot more than it's ever been taking on that
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: kind of dead money because the Broncos showed everybody the
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: way that if you're smart and you make your roster
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: younger and you hit draft picks and you sign the
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: right guys in free agency, you can get out of
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: that far quicker than people used to think you could.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Jeff Legwell, ESPN.com, joins us every week. Appreciate it, Leggy.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: Thanks, fellas.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: We'll see you.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: High school football is back in Altitude Sports Radio tomorrow night.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Chaparral takes on Legend with Vic Lombardi and Tyler Plumbis
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: on the call.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I'm right here.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Our broadcast starts at 7. It's right here on Altitude
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Sports Radio 92.5. Thanks to Sports Clips.
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: I'm right in front of you.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Brett, he's literally right there.
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: Right there.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: In Wings Credit Union.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Could you just include him a little bit when you
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: do this? Vic Lombardi, who I don't know. You're just
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: talking about me like I don't exist.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: What was I supposed to say?
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: Maybe let me chime in a little bit.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Hey Vic, you got the game tomorrow night. Yeah. What's
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: going on?
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: You got the battle of Parker. Legend and Chaparral. Legend 0-1.
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: They lost a tough one last week to Grandview. Chaparral
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: trying to Win a game for the first time this season.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been tough.
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm right here.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Thanks to our friends at Sports Clips and Wings Credit Union.
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: It's rude.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: It's rude. It's rude. It's disgusting.
• 20:25
  Speaker 9: It must be contagious because it's Sport Clips, not Sports Clips.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Hastings over there.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Sports Clips. And Wings Credit Union. Chad Brown in a
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: few minutes.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Joe Burrows.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Chad Brown's going to give us a preview of CU
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: here in a couple of minutes. Thanks to Jeff Legwald
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: for just joining us.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Again, some of the news throughout the course of the
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: day today and yesterday.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard, that situation. Clippers docked five picks.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: I got more details on that, by the way. The details,
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: they're endless.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Do you have time to do them in a couple
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: of minutes?
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I'm right here.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: He's literally sitting in front of your face.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: God, what is your problem today?
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: What's your problem today?
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Where do you think I'm going?
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Do you have time to get through the story in
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: a couple of minutes before Chad joins us?
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: I'm like right in front of you right here.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Dude, sometimes I look to my right and I look
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: at you. And I just go, it's inexplicable at times.
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: So do you want to say something?
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I do. Okay, you're right there. Go ahead.
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: So through this investigation, and by the way, there are
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: thoughts that that trade might get voided. There's an outside chance,
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: and that would be actually the best case scenario. Why
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: not let Kawhi Leonard sit in his soil, right? I mean,
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: he gets to escape up north to Toronto. Why not
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: let him live in L.A. with his fellow Clippers? He's
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: the one who did this.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: Why not?
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: That should be the case, right?
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: You made your bed, now sleep in it type of scenario?
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: So listen to this.
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: This investigation unearthed so many things beyond aspiration. Aspiration was
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: just the tipping point. There were so many things that
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: took place beyond that. The Clippers, it found out in
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: this investigation, they paid for personal airfare, like private flights, accommodations, gifts,
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: tickets for Kawhi and his family. Without deducting those expenditures
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: from his pay, which is an NBA rule. So they
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: basically gave him free airfare, whatever he wanted.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Right? Yeah. Part of the deal.
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: Hi, Chad.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: We'll get to you in a second.
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: I'm right here right now. Some of the other things
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: they did before Aspiration got involved in this, before they
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: became a thing, they got three other companies.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: And they did this on the down low. Three other
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: companies to come together and pay Kawhi Leonard. endorsement fees.
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: These companies, Boingo, Daktronics, and Lofton. Yeah, Boingo. They all
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: did business with Steve Ballmer and the arena. They all
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: did business. So each of them paid Kawhi Leonard an
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: endorsement fee that totaled $ 18 million. Here's something you need
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: to know about these payments. They all took place during
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: COVID when there was no business to be had. These
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: companies never once before had any endorsement activity with any
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: professional athlete ever. Number two. And number three, they never
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: disclosed this, never went public with it, and he never
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: did anything. He just get paid $ 18 million from these
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: three companies who did work at the arena for the Clippers.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: And they got nothing out.
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: It's unreal.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: The evidence is unreal.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Let me let everybody know out there. I'll be your Kawhi.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: I'll do that job for you. What, you just pay
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: me money and I sit here? That's fun.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Hey, hold on.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: Last thing.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Chad's sitting there. He's right there.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: He's right there. So I know, but Chad's going to
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: like this. These three companies are legit companies. That's not enough.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: On top of that, they made up a fake tree
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: company to give him more money.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: They caught me.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Anyway, we'll get back to this in a second. Let's
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: go out to the Ramos hotline and get to Chad Brown.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: First of all, Chad, thank you for joining us.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Good morning.
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: And yes, I would love to get a Kawhi Leonard
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: endorsement deal. Instead, I got to go on air with
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: you guys. So there's that.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: And you got to go to Stanford, too.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: True.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Well, here's my question.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Me and Vic have been going back and forth the
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: last couple of days with CU playing tonight. Vic wants
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: to see offense. He said, what's the record, Vic? 30
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: when they scored 30 points?
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: 18-3 when CU scores 30 points or more in the
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: prime era.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: So he likes, he wants to see offense tonight. I
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: would like to see some level of competent defense. I
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: just looked this up to confirm it. I believe there's
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: 138 teams at the FBS level in college football. CU
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: ranked 137th last year in rushing yards per game.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: That can't happen again. Where do you land? Do you
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: want to see defense or offense tonight?
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean, look at the picture behind me. That's
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: me sacking a quarterback. So I'm going to lean defense.
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: And the Buffs have yet to prove in the coach
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: primary they can stop the run. But on the offensive side,
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: they've also yet to prove they can run the ball consistently.
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: So I'm not sure if it's one side or the
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: other because both sides suffer from the same issue. It
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: seems like the wide receiver room this year is talented.
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: We'll see that that actually pans out at a Big
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: 12 level. The quarterback certainly has proven he can throw
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: the ball efficiently. But running the ball against a team
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: like Georgia Tech is going to be critical. Stopping Georgia
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: Tech from running the ball is going to be extra critical.
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: So I suppose if forced to choose one, I'll go defense.
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: But the offense in the run game certainly has a
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: lot to prove as well.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Chad, we were talking about that earlier. I said to Brett,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I said, opposing teams look at the Buffaloes' defense the
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: last several years and they go... I'm running right at
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: your face, and there's nothing you can do about it.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: And that essentially has been a huge Achilles heel. Overall,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: they were 123rd in defense last year.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: By the way, Moshe, 222.5 rushing yards per game allowed
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: last year.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: It's sickening. So, Chad, as a defending player, I'm sure
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: you feel helpless when you know the teams can just
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: run the ball down your throat. What do they have
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: to do to stop the running game?
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: Well, I will go second part first. The ability to
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: an offense to run the ball down your throat. Yes,
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: you feel helpless, but it's more than just helpless. It's demoralizing.
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: We know what's coming and we cannot stop it. And
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: that demoralization isn't just for the defense. It's everyone on
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: the sideline. It's the offense as well, because they're eager
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: to get back on the field. But someone goes on
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: a 10 play, 82 yard drive and nine of the
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: 10 plays are run plays. And they're just pounding it
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: down your throat. And we've seen how running games work.
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: Early in the game, it may be three, four yard runs. Third,
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: fourth quarter, now they're cracking six or seven yard runs.
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: Late in the fourth quarter, now it's nine or 12
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: yard runs.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: That was the Terrell Davis way to do it, yeah.
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: Yes, and it's just over and over and over again.
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: And to answer your question about what do you do
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: about it? Well, you need better players. Certainly, that's been
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: an issue. But two of the defensive tackles, the interior
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: defensive linemen they were counting on this year, they've both
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: been ruled ineligible. Now, they've got some linebackers, whether it
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: was asking for another year or I think some kind
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: of transfer or something. I don't have all the details.
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: But to count on players that you did not have
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: 100% certainty that were going to be able to suit
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: up for you, that speaks to some kind of issue
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: within the program. And then the second part would be
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: the linebackers. They've got some linebackers who've got a tremendous
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: number of starts and a lot of experience, but at
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: a lower level. And typically the difference between lower levels
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: of football and upper levels of football is size and strength.
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: And these guys, maybe they play great at that level,
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: but maybe they just simply don't have the size and
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: don't have the strength to be able to defend the
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: run at a Big 12 level. Let's take it to
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: the NFL. Torion York was one of my favorite players
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: I watched over the last couple years at Texas A
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: & M. He was a playmaker for Texas A & M.
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: But in the Broncos' defense this preseason, he seemed to
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: be lost a bit because he was an undersized player.
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: That's why he wasn't drafted. That's why he went undrafted.
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: And that's really why he was unable to make the
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: team because of his size thing. So there's a direct
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: comparison to, yeah, you made plays at a lower level,
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: but maybe you won't be able to make plays at
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: this upper level.
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: Best case scenario tonight, Chad Brown, is CU– Wins a game.
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: Offense looks solid. It's exciting. Prime is smiling. Everybody's happy.
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: Worst case scenario, though, what if they look like crap
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: on national television? What if they look unorganized? What if
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: they misuse timeouts? What happens after that?
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: Well, I would have to say that there would be
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: a significant part of the Buffs contingent who would actually
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: be happy about that. Because this division between Some Buff
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: fans and what's happening up in Boulder is really getting
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: to the point where it's ridiculous. And you don't have
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: to go very far on social media to see what
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: I'm talking about in this divide. And there are folks
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: who are hoping that we move on. They're happy that
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: we got the eyeballs, that we got the attention, that
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: the program has been elevated back from being almost dead.
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: But now it's time to bring in somebody who's got
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: some real football coach around him. And I say that
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: not as a diss personally to Coach Prime. I'm just
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: speaking what I've heard from some other folks who are
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: involved or are have past been involved in the program.
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: I hope they win. I hope they win every single
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: game they play. I hope the issues that we talked about,
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: stopping the run and running the football, they somehow fix that.
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: And we can get to a point where we are
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: past flash and swagger and actually into a place where
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: winning football leads the day. To speak to the divide
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: amongst the fan base, we don't have to go very
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: far to just the Instagram handles on the back of
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: the jerseys. That is now being defended on social media.
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: Look at what these kids are able to do. They're
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: able to utilize their social media handles for money. And
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: look what Shadur, all the money he made. And folks
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: are just responding with, well, what about winning football games?
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: So there's a divide into what's important. What are we
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: supposed to be doing? We're supposed to be winning football games.
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: not increasing NIL opportunities. You can do both, but typically
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: winning football games becomes first, and then people want to
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: work with you.
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: Guys, what was the term I used for those people?
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Honks.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: Honks.
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, no. I called them something else last year,
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: the CU something, and it drives me nuts.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: You said honks.
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, honks, honks. I thought you said punks.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: Sorry.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: No, honks.
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: Honk, honk. Yeah, the prime honks is what I call them.
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: If there's anybody invested in this program, it's a guy
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: who gave sweat, a guy like Chad Brown, a guy
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: who gave himself to the program, a guy who produced
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: a national title, a guy who was there for the
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: mountaintop of this program. And to go off on guys
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: like that and others who have been invested in this
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: program is so stupid to me, so reckless, so selfish,
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: so ridiculous. that I give no credence to those CU
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: honks who live that world today. So when you say
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: something about the program, you say it because you want
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: it to succeed, not because you want to see disaster.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: That's what I want to get across right now. You
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: don't want to see disaster. You want success. It's your school.
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: It's still your school. Am I speaking out of turn here?
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: No, you're not. And I think I speak for not
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: just alumni of CU, but any school. Our ties to
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: the program are strong and are connection to it is
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: real when i got married who stood up next to
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: me guys i played cu football with when my kids
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: were born who are the first people i called guys
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: i played cu football with you know when a family
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: member gets sick and i'm all in my fields who
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: do i call guys i played cu football with those
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: are my brothers for life and so now to be
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: told that you know a It's all irrelevant, and I
• 32:39
  Speaker 8: played football a long time ago. I don't know about football.
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: I don't know about CU football. I'm not up to
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: speed with the current landscape of football. Obviously, like you said, Vic,
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: it lands pretty poorly, and it's just not true. I
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: want CU to win every single game they play. At
• 32:55
  Speaker 8: the same time, I have a responsibility as someone who
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: is asked to talk into cameras and microphones about football
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: to talk about what I see as good football and
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: what I don't see as good football. So, I mean,
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: in that vein, I'm doing the Miami-Stanford game tomorrow night.
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: I will talk about that from a perspective of good
• 33:13
  Speaker 8: football and bad football, not rooting for one team or
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: the other.
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: I hate Miami.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: All conversations with Chad Brown are brought to you. He's
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: my Surfside brother. By Surfside, 100 calories, 2 grams of sugar,
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: and zero bubbles.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: It's not a seltzer. It's Surfside.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Chad, last thing. I know you saw it. I saw it, too.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: How badass is Ralphie Seven going to be? I think
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: she's going to be an absolute monster.
• 33:37
  Speaker 8: Well, we saw how Ralphie Six didn't like to run.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Didn't like to run? It's the laziest animal in history.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Ralphie Six was the Marsha Mosier of running mascots. She
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: should be steaks on my plate right now.
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: It was terrible, but also terrible because we're in this
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: coach prime era where the Buffs are getting all these
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: national TV games. And so the rest of the public
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: does not remember running out behind great, awesome, truly love
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: to run Buffaloes. Now we got Ralphie Seven. She loves
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: to run. She's getting bigger every year, of course, so
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: over 1,000 pounds now. So I think now some of
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: that swagger will at least come back from that part
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: of the program. I know the team doesn't run out
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: behind Ralphie anymore. I would certainly love to reinstate that.
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: That was one of the best feelings ever possible, to
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: take the field as a band of brothers running out
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: behind a 1,200-pound animal. There's nothing better than that.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: And she used to blow her handlers up. She'd run
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: them down from behind, man. Drag them. She'd drag them
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: all over America. It was unbelievably good.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: All right, Grandpa, let's get you to bed. Chad Brown
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: is joining us every single Thursday. Chad, appreciate the time.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Thank you, buddy.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Thanks, fellas.
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: Have a good one.
• 34:46
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  Speaker 5: Back after this.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: As we wrap things up here, looking ahead to the
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: opening game for the CU Buffs taking on Georgia Tech.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: I still, by the way, Bud Light Football Fridays are back.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: You can join Andy Lindahl and special co-host Jeff Legwald
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: tomorrow at.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: The Zone in Golden.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: We're giving away Broncos tickets courtesy of Bud Light this
• 35:11
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• 35:15
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• 35:19
  Speaker 9: And it's actually called In the Zone in Golden.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, In the Zone.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: I forgot the In. In the Zone in Golden.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: In the Zones? In Zones and stuff?
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: I didn't throw the S's on there.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Hey, also tomorrow we're having Brian Roth on, right? From
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: the Rams broadcast. Yes. We do, Vic, have a Wyoming
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: cowpoke inside this building. In this building?
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Super sales manager, Sean Brennan. Oh. I said, what are
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: you doing this weekend? I said, watching the Rams kick
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: the blank out of the pokes. He's like, oh. Yeah,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: we'll see, man. I've got high hopes for Jim Mora.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I do, dude. I'm excited about this. And I like
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: him as a coach. I like him as a dude.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that he could have done a
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: lot of different things, he chose this opportunity, this is
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: where he's going to. Ride out to the sunset successfully,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I hope. So we'll talk some Rams football tomorrow, so
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: don't you fret, Rams fans, and get your panties in
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: a bunch, because you always get upset because we talk
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: buffs and not enough Rams, and then you bitch and
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: moan about it.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: When Chad said, and look, I think the, what do
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: you want to call it?
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: The strife, maybe, between.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Buffs alumni and the current regime in Boulder, it's been
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: well documented that some players feel like maybe they've been
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: boxed out a little bit or not as welcome as
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: they should be or whatever.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Well, because, Brett, it used to be, and Vic, you
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: know this as well as anybody, it used to be
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: one continuous happy family over the years. And when Coach
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Prime came in, it became something different. It became sort
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: of the, I mean, not even sorority, it became the
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Prime show. And so that continuity did not... really continue
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: on the way that it had in the past.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question as we head into
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: the season.
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: For me, it's not continuity. It's a disregard and disrespect
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: for history.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, I was soft-pedaling it, but that's a good way
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: to put it.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: It's a disregard and a disrespect for those who built
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: what you have. It's a complete and utter, I don't
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: know how else to put it. You know how I
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: am about this, Moj.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: You know how I am about it. Your elders, you know,
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: we've had this conversation before respecting your elders, those who
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: came before you, those who built what you have in
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: this country alone, those who, and, and, and there's a
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: disregard for that. It's a bit punkish and it really.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Ticks me off.
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: Well, guys like Chad Brown, are you kidding me? You're
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: talking to one.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Of the best builders, builders of that guy's at the.
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: Top of the food chain. When it comes to CU football,
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: how dare you speak to him like that?
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: Punk.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Um, here's my question.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: Is there anything that can happen this season that you
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: think would lead to Prime not being the coach next year?
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if they have another three-win season, two-win season. I mean,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: if it's a disastrous season.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: You think that would do it? First of all, he's
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: got a gigantic contract. Gigantic.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: $ 10 million a year contract.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: That's one.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Number two, kind of branded this football team surrounding his persona.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: It's another thing. And three, I.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: Don't know what the expectations are. I don't know what
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: are they looking to get out of this. Because I'll
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: tell you this much. When Prime first took over, there
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: was this, we all felt it. We were shocked on
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: this show when the hire was made. We're like, oh
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: my God, they really got him. but you've kind of
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: just jumped full-fledged into at least some of the university has. Well,
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: the results aren't as important as they usually are because
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: of all the other stuff that has come with it,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: and I'm trying to figure out where the line is,
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: and I don't know where it is. I have a
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: hard time believing most. They go 3-9 this year. You're
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: telling me Deion's out?
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: What if they go 0-12?
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: Well, they aren't doing that. Listen, I think that this
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: team might surprise. I think finally... The noise, when I
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: say noise, the offseason was noise-free.
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: It was.
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: For the most part, outside of some personal situations going.
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: I think they just recruited their guys. They got into
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: the portal. They brought in a new coaching staff, essentially.
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: And that's where I think a lot of this lies
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: is recreating, reinventing themselves, a new coach every other year.
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: They're recreating the offense. It's a new offense, but at
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: least you have a quarterback who got a taste last year.
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: So it's not brand new for him. He got to
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: be nervous, right? Juju got to be nervous during the game.
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: He already went through that. And so you got an
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: off season with a new system and I hope it works.
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: I'm very anxious tonight at six o'clock to watch this
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: offense and I'm going to be rooting for them to work.
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: I think it's the right approach. It's a unique offense.
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: It's not a typical pro style. It's not a, spread.
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: It's a little... It's an amalgamation of all of it,
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: and I can't wait to see it in full effect.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: I actually agree with you. I'm optimistic.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Now, where does the optimism lie? Like, I think if
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: they get to 7-5, that'd be a good year. That
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: would show me the arrows pointing up. You've improved all
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: that different stuff. I don't know how likely that is,
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: but I would love.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: To see 7-5. I guess my point, Moj, is this morning.
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: If you get to a bowl game, that's a big win, bro.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I'm totally... Are they completely fine with it? Yes, but.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: I guess the point I'm trying to make is, how
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: much is this still valued, this part of it? Because
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: it was valued a lot at the beginning. First take
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: was on this morning. Steve and I spent 15 minutes
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: talking about CU's season. They put the schedule graphic up
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: on there, all of that stuff. That leaves the second
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: that Deion leaves, right? And now you are solely reliant upon, are.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: You good enough to be talked about?
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: If Deion leaves and next year they go 9-3... They
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: are getting a graphic on ESPN.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: I'm wondering how much that's still valued. That's my question.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: If we're taking performance-based results, Moj, should CU get any
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: airtime right now on National Airways?
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: So how much do you value that? That's the question.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: That's pretty valuable.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm asking.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, Vic, how would you quantify the influx of
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: money and attention to The University of Colorado as an
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: institution because of the hire of Coach Prime. How do
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: you quantify that?
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, you really can't.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: But it's been significant.
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: Significant.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: No, it's been fun.
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: I mean, you can't replicate what we had a couple
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: years ago with game day and the Fox people up
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: there before the games and the weekends. It was so
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: much fun. I mean, it was great. At the height
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: of the program for the last couple decades, we saw it.
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: But now what?
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Now what's right?
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: You know what we need? We need some judges in Colorado.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Those judges in Missouri, the ones in Louisiana, the ones
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: in Georgia and whatnot.
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: Did you guys know?
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: We need to get us some of them judges who
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: like college football.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Cordell Stewart actually has one more year. It's incredible.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Is there a judge in Colorado that likes football? That's
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: my question to you.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Nelly, you got a fact checker for us?
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: I know one.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Nelly monitors the mistakes in today's Fact Checker.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Fact Checker. Presented by Backus & Shanker. Serious lawyers for
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: the seriously injured. He runs a real fast 40.
• 42:55
  Speaker 9: So yesterday, speaking of someone who's not a good kid,
• 42:57
  Speaker 9: after the NBA released their punishment of Kawhi Leonard and
• 43:01
  Speaker 9: the Clippers, Shams Charania published Kawhi Leonard's statement, which was
• 43:05
  Speaker 9: released yesterday. via his agent, and there's a phrase in
• 43:08
  Speaker 9: here that I think all of us on this show
• 43:10
  Speaker 9: should co-opt. So the opening line of Kawhi's statement is,
• 43:14
  Speaker 9: integrity and respect for this game are fundamental to who
• 43:18
  Speaker 9: I am. I accept full responsibility for lapses in judgment
• 43:23
  Speaker 9: by people within my inner circle.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: That's not him.
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: No, it was other people within his circle. So that's
• 43:29
  Speaker 9: what I'm going to start doing now. Like our boss
• 43:31
  Speaker 9: comes up to us after the show. He says, you know,
• 43:32
  Speaker 9: you guys were always late to commercial break. The topics
• 43:35
  Speaker 9: were a little loosey goosey today.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: I can go. Okay, boss.
• 43:38
  Speaker 9: I accept full responsibility for lapses in judgment by people
• 43:41
  Speaker 9: within my inner circle.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: I take full responsibility for Mosher's stupidity. That's my fault.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: You're the one Vic wanted to talk. You talk like
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: he's out of the room. He's right in front of you.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Vic Lombardi will be calling.
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: What these idiots do has nothing to do with me.
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: My co-host won't even acknowledge that I'm right here.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: As we're close to the opening of the college football season,
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: I want to remind everybody, Saturday morning's just got a
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: whole lot more local on this station. You guys know
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: that this Saturday... Four straight hours starting at 9 a.m.,
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Springer and Tanner.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: They are going to work their tails off. I'm excited.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: That's every Saturday at 9 a.m., Springer and Tanner. Saturday
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: mornings right here on 92.5. Find the podcast, iTunes, Spotify,
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: Mojo Lombardi and Kane.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: Is that it?
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: We done?
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: See you buffs tonight, baby.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Let's go get it.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Give me a 1-0 start. Give me one.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: 31-28 buffs.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: I say 31- 29 bucks.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: You can't take my score. No, no, no, no, no.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: No.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Okay. I'll go, yeah. I'll tell you what, Vic. 34
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: to 26. How about that?
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Five to two.
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: Perfect.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: All right. Talk to you guys tomorrow.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Put a three-run shot in the bottom of the ninth, huh?
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Love you, Steve.