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The Late Debate | 5 May · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: All good evening and thanks for joining us on the
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  Speaker 2: Late Debate. I'm James Macpherson with Joe Hildebrand and Danika
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  Speaker 2: did Georgio.
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  Speaker 1: How are you both?
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  Speaker 3: Very good?
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  Speaker 4: Thank you great? Ready for a show? How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I am very very well.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a lot to get through tonight, so let's
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  Speaker 2: get stuck into it.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 2: A US judge apologizes to the man accused of trying
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  Speaker 2: to assassinate Donald Trump for the uncomfortable jail.
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  Speaker 1: Conditions he's had to endure.
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  Speaker 2: A UK poll shows more than half of Muslims intend
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  Speaker 2: to vote for pro Gaza independence, and the CEO of
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  Speaker 2: Starbucks defends twelve dollar coffee, saying it's all about the experience.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get onto that.
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  Speaker 2: A little later, but first a story from Melbourne that
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  Speaker 2: raises questions about how long dispute resolutions can drag on
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  Speaker 2: before they become their own punishment. Dean Yates and his
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  Speaker 2: wife purchased a townhouse in South Morange as an investment
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  Speaker 2: property to rent out. They found tenants, but soon after
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  Speaker 2: the lease began, rent payments stopped, so to regain possession
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  Speaker 2: of their own property, the couple had to go through
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  Speaker 2: thirteen hearings at the Victorian Civil Administrative Tribunal. When they
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  Speaker 2: finally got their own house back twenty eight thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: down in lost rent and twelve thousand dollars down in
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  Speaker 2: legal fees, they discovered their townhouse was so badly damaged
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  Speaker 2: insurance successors refused to even go inside.
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  Speaker 1: Rubbish was spread throughout the house.
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  Speaker 2: There were maggots everywhere in cat feces throughout every room
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  Speaker 2: from the eight cats the tenants left behind. Now, as
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  Speaker 2: you can imagine, mister Yates is calling for Victorian rental
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  Speaker 2: laws to be overhauled. This is absolutely shocking the NIKA.
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  Speaker 2: Why would you rent out a property, especially in Victoria,
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  Speaker 2: when the law allows tenants not only to do that,
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  Speaker 2: but to remain in the house not paying any rent
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  Speaker 2: while the owner gets dragged through a tribunal.
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  Speaker 4: Why would you bother getting an investment property?
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  Speaker 5: Seriously, I mean, there are so many laws in place
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  Speaker 5: to protect tenants.
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  Speaker 4: What about the laws in place to actually.
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  Speaker 5: Respect landlords, because you don't put all your money into
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  Speaker 5: an investment property for it to go down the drain.
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  Speaker 4: I feel so sorry for this man.
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  Speaker 5: He's even had to take up a fifox job just
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  Speaker 5: to try and pay for not only the damages but
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  Speaker 5: also the legal bills. It's twenty eight thousand dollars in
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  Speaker 5: unpaid rent and on top of that about forty thousand.
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  Speaker 4: Dollars in damage.
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  Speaker 5: Now I'm just wondering was there some sort of an
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  Speaker 5: oversight though in the tenant process, because you know, when
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  Speaker 5: you have to apply for a rental, it is pretty vigorous.
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  Speaker 5: You've got to have your previous rental history, you've got
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  Speaker 5: to have your previous payments, and you've got to make
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  Speaker 5: sure that that's all been clear, that you haven't defaulted
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  Speaker 5: on payments that you are going to pay up front.
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  Speaker 5: You've got to be pretty unlucky to get tenants like this.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they actually found that the tenants had forged their references,
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  Speaker 2: so I mean way they discovered too late. None of
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  Speaker 2: the references were legitimate. So one of the things he's
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  Speaker 2: calling for is for references to be double checked. Not
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  Speaker 2: a bad idea. He's also calling for the rights of
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  Speaker 2: homeown to take possession of their property more quickly when
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  Speaker 2: rent is not being paid. And the third thing he
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  Speaker 2: wants Joe is for a limit on how many times
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  Speaker 2: people can appeal these decisions before the tribunal, Otherwise it
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  Speaker 2: just drags on. In the meantime, he's paying a mortgage
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  Speaker 2: with no incoming rent.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 6: And this brings us to another story that came out
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  Speaker 6: today uncannily, also in Melbourne, also sort of in the
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  Speaker 6: same sort of eastern northeast direction.
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  Speaker 3: This is MICHAELA.
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  Speaker 6: Cohen, who is a single nurse thirty one years old,
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  Speaker 6: who has a two bedroom townhouse in mill Park which
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  Speaker 6: was her investment property, and she rented it out in
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  Speaker 6: May twenty twenty three to a family of four or
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  Speaker 6: going perfectly well so far, and yet she has been
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  Speaker 6: found unable or rather a tribunal has found or declared
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  Speaker 6: that she is unable to evict her tenants despite them
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  Speaker 6: being eight thousand dollars behind on rent because the tribunal found.
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  Speaker 6: Oh but they're trying, they're trying to pay the right now. Again,
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  Speaker 6: this is I can sort of understand why they're in
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  Speaker 6: a bit of a rock and a hard place. And
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  Speaker 6: she's saying this, I mean, she's saying she's got this
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  Speaker 6: property and an investment property. She's a nurse, she's working
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  Speaker 6: double shifts just to try to be able to pay
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  Speaker 6: off both mortgages. It's obviously not fail on her. She's
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  Speaker 6: not getting the return on investment that she was promised.
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  Speaker 6: The tribunal says, well, you know, they're a young family.
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  Speaker 6: I think the mum is pregnant, and so again, these
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  Speaker 6: are not people you want to see booted out on
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  Speaker 6: the street. But they've already been given a sixty day
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  Speaker 6: notice to vacate, which they have not done. And surely enough,
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  Speaker 6: the same old Victorian Civil Administrative tribunal has found that
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  Speaker 6: the renters cannot be evicted based on their family circumstances
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  Speaker 6: and timing. And get this, one of the rental agreements
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  Speaker 6: that they came to was that they had to give
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  Speaker 6: her four six hundred dollars in one particular week. Instead
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  Speaker 6: they made one three hundred dollars, so less than a third.
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  Speaker 6: And the tribunal said, well, that shows that they were trying.
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  Speaker 3: That was them trying.
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  Speaker 6: But the reason this is interesting is because eight thousand dollars,
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  Speaker 6: the exact amount that this family is behind in their rent,
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  Speaker 6: is the exact amount that experts predict that rents will
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  Speaker 6: go up by if the government, the federal government brings
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  Speaker 6: in its new capital gains tax and negative gearing packaging
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  Speaker 6: is that per year in the budget. This is after
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  Speaker 6: a year, that's right, they've voted for that long and
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  Speaker 6: it's eight thousand dollars a year.
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  Speaker 3: They think they think rent will go up by about
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  Speaker 3: twenty percent.
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  Speaker 6: In the cities, or eight thousand dollars a year, And
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  Speaker 6: of course that is because if these properties are no
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  Speaker 6: longer getting the discount for the landlords at the taxation end,
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  Speaker 6: they are simply going to pass that on. And these
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  Speaker 6: stories in particular are also the ones that put the
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  Speaker 6: lie to the idea that the greens All had, which is, well,
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  Speaker 6: we'll just make it harder for landlords to evict people
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  Speaker 6: or harder for landlords to increase the rent, and that
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  Speaker 6: will solve our rental crisis. Because when you say no,
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  Speaker 6: you're not allowed to do it, well, you know what
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  Speaker 6: what are going to do that it is going to get.
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  Speaker 3: Out of it?
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  Speaker 5: Say if it's going to go up by eight thousand dollars,
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  Speaker 5: I mean seriously, like you know what would happen to
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  Speaker 5: the intergeneral intergenerational wealth spin that Jim Chalmers.
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  Speaker 4: Keeps wish on.
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  Speaker 5: But I just want to make the point before we
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  Speaker 5: move on that this to me isn't just a Victorian issue.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously it's pretty bad in Victoria. But I have no
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  Speaker 5: cases in Wa where people have not paid, and I've
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  Speaker 5: got friends who have been desperate to evict their tenants
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  Speaker 5: and they haven't been able to. And I think, of
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  Speaker 5: course you can feel a sympathy. I mean, this woman
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  Speaker 5: obviously was pregnant, that they were a family living there.
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  Speaker 5: But how much how long can you be sympathetic for
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  Speaker 5: that would be my question.
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  Speaker 2: And there also there's sympathy for the landlord in this case,
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  Speaker 2: a single woman who's now working two jobs to a
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  Speaker 2: mortgage and afraid of losing her property.
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  Speaker 1: So the sympathy needs to go both absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: And also completely backwards up.
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  Speaker 6: Because again, if you say if you get someone in
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  Speaker 6: as your tenants, you are not allowed to a victim
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  Speaker 6: if they default on their rent, you're not actually keeping
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  Speaker 6: more people in rent. You're actually making it less likely
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  Speaker 6: that landlords will even want to touch that with a
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  Speaker 6: barge heart say oh well, I'll just go and invest
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  Speaker 6: in bitcoin instead.
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  Speaker 2: The good news for renters, though, is if rents do
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  Speaker 2: increase by eight thousand dollars a year because of those
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  Speaker 2: government policies, the Victorian Administrative Review Tribe, you know, won't
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  Speaker 2: require anyone to pay that increase.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's true.
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  Speaker 5: If they've got money on the you illegal fees exact,
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  Speaker 5: it's a win win, isn't it. Everything's always a win
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  Speaker 5: in Victoria. Now, you recalled two weeks ago that there
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  Speaker 5: was yet another attempt at Donald Trump's life. This was,
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  Speaker 5: of course, at the Washington Correspondence dinner. Now the accused
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  Speaker 5: by the name of Cole Allen. He's currently behind bars
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  Speaker 5: as he faces court.
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  Speaker 4: Now have you ever heard of.
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  Speaker 5: A judge actually apologizing to an accused person.
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  Speaker 4: Well, actually happened in this case. You can't make this
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  Speaker 4: stuff up.
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  Speaker 5: A DC federal judge has actually apologized to this bloke,
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  Speaker 5: claiming that his jail conditions are too harsh.
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  Speaker 4: The US magistrate by the name of Judge Z. M.
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  Speaker 5: Ferruki. Gee, how's that for a surname Faruki? Remind us
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  Speaker 5: of anyone over here.
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  Speaker 4: This is what he has reportedly said.
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  Speaker 5: He said, we are obligated to make sure he's taken
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  Speaker 5: care of, mister Allen. I'm sorry that things have not
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  Speaker 5: been the way they are supposed to. This is in
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  Speaker 5: relation to the conditions we are obligated to make sure
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  Speaker 5: he's taken care of.
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  Speaker 4: It's troubling.
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  Speaker 5: I've never heard of one January sixth defendant who has
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  Speaker 5: put in five point restraints or in a safe cell.
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  Speaker 5: If the only way to keep him safe is the
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  Speaker 5: most punitive thing, that's a problem.
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  Speaker 4: Seriously.
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  Speaker 5: This guy allegedly tried to assassinate the president of the
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  Speaker 5: United States. So in terms of his conditions at the moment,
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  Speaker 5: he's under suicide watch, which concerned the judge. But the
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  Speaker 5: reason why he's been put under a side watch is
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  Speaker 5: that because he apparently told officers after the night of
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  Speaker 5: the shooting that he did not expect to survive, so
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  Speaker 5: that raised concerns, and naturally they've put him under suicide watch.
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  Speaker 5: He's also in solitary confinement. I don't think anybody could
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  Speaker 5: possibly argue with that. The judge claims there's no windows
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  Speaker 5: and padded rooms. Well, you know again, I'm sorry. When
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  Speaker 5: you are accused of such a heinous crime, I don't
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  Speaker 5: think you expect to have a raft of pleasantries. And
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  Speaker 5: his lawyer claims he's not even allowed to have a
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  Speaker 5: Bible and that he's not even allowed to call her.
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  Speaker 4: Now, I'm not.
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  Speaker 5: Sure how true that is because you do have the
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  Speaker 5: right to speak to your lawyer if you are indeed
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  Speaker 5: behind bars. But I am actually quite baffled by this,
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  Speaker 5: a federal judge apologizing. How embarrassing. Firstly, how pathetic can
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  Speaker 5: you be? And that when they've got left lefty judges
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  Speaker 5: in the United States that are sympathetic towards these accused people, what.
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  Speaker 4: About the victim of that? I mean, the President of
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  Speaker 4: the United States could have been killed.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean the judge's point is that he's innocent
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  Speaker 2: until proven guilty, so right now the court has a
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  Speaker 2: duty to look after his welfare.
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  Speaker 1: Two points on this.
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  Speaker 2: Firstly, if they didn't put him in solitary with appropriate
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  Speaker 2: safeguards so that he doesn't commit suicide, and he did
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  Speaker 2: commit suicide, well then all hell would break loose. The
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  Speaker 2: prison officials would be accused of mismanaging the case. Second point,
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  Speaker 2: and this is the most important one, I think, is
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  Speaker 2: the judge makes reference to the way January six rioters
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  Speaker 2: at the Capitol Building were treated, which sort of hints
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  Speaker 2: that this judge, who did handle a lot of those cases,
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  Speaker 2: is a little bit political himself, and this is a
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  Speaker 2: bit of a comment on what he thinks of Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: Is it any wonder he's going a little soft on
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  Speaker 2: Trump's alleged shooter.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, but it also seems to be a complete and
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  Speaker 6: we get this so much, and it's strange that a
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  Speaker 6: judge who is involved in this would be so hopelessly confused,
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  Speaker 6: because of course what happened on January sixth, which I
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  Speaker 6: thought was absolutely deplorable and disgraceful and disgusting. And I
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  Speaker 6: don't think it was just a nice, peaceful protest with
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  Speaker 6: a few, you know, just as I think that the
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  Speaker 6: Black Lives Matter protests weren't mostly peaceful, I don't think
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  Speaker 6: January sixth was mostly peaceful.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was a disgrace.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think it was necessarily an insurrection or an
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  Speaker 6: attempt to overthrow the government. But it was a bunch
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  Speaker 6: of stupid mob violence that would have been very threatening
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  Speaker 6: and intimidating to anyone in the Capitol building.
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  Speaker 3: But it was not a clear.
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  Speaker 6: And again all these things are now alleged out of
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  Speaker 6: the matters before the court. But it was not an
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  Speaker 6: attempt to deliberately with a gun take out the president
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  Speaker 6: and or senior administration officials at a location which you
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  Speaker 6: deliberately tried to enter into with a specific purpose in mind.
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  Speaker 6: These bozos were all over the place, and again, they
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  Speaker 6: didn't kill anybody. And I know that some people get confused,
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  Speaker 6: like Malcolm Turnbull, and I think the introduction to his
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  Speaker 6: own books perhaps or some other thing I was in
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  Speaker 6: The Guardian or something, there was something he wrote where
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  Speaker 6: he said, oh, they killed or in fact, that's not
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  Speaker 6: true that people died as a result of the chaos
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  Speaker 6: of that day, but they did not.
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  Speaker 3: They weren't assassins.
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  Speaker 6: They were idiots, they were anti democratic, they were deluded,
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  Speaker 6: they were batshit, but they weren't assassins. So it just
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  Speaker 6: seems weird to say, oh, we're just going to lump
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  Speaker 6: the January sixth protesters or rioters or whatever you want
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  Speaker 6: in the same category as a card carrying alleged assassin
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  Speaker 6: with an alleged manifesto who allegedly entered the White House
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  Speaker 6: correspondents with.
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  Speaker 3: Take out.
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  Speaker 5: But he also allegedly, i love to say, allegedly refined
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  Speaker 5: bloody minutes, allegedly shot a Secret Service officer as well
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  Speaker 5: that night. And we're just lucky that the Secret Service
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  Speaker 5: guy was wearing a bulletproof vest and he was also
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  Speaker 5: apparently not only there was a gun that police found,
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  Speaker 5: but they were also knives as well.
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  Speaker 6: It's not like he just ran into the room, bison's
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  Speaker 6: head on his shoulders go and then got to a
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  Speaker 6: fired and all hell broke lose again.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing with this is for the judge to
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  Speaker 2: personally apologized to the accused, rather than simply to question
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  Speaker 2: the prosecution and jail officials. For him to talk directly
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  Speaker 2: to the accused him so.
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  Speaker 4: To apologize that that to.
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  Speaker 5: Me actually prejudices that really is because people will look
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  Speaker 5: at it and go, oh, we should feel sympathetic towards him,
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  Speaker 5: So suddenly the tone changes. And what happens if this
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  Speaker 5: goes to a jury, But then the jury think, well,
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  Speaker 5: the judges already apologized, so you know it does prejudice things.
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  Speaker 6: And Judge za Faruki is related to Senator Marine.
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  Speaker 1: There's no relation whatsoever. I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 2: There's not much sympathy in the UK for Sekir Starmer,
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  Speaker 2: certainly not amongst the UK's Muslim population. A survey has
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  Speaker 2: just found that more than half of Muslims in the
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  Speaker 2: UK would vote for pro Gaza independence rather than vote
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  Speaker 2: for UK labor. Now that's amazing because it's not that
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  Speaker 2: long ago that the Labor Party enjoyed eighty percent support
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  Speaker 2: from Muslims within the UK, so that's a massive falling away.
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  Speaker 2: The survey found sixty percent of Muslims would back independent
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  Speaker 2: candidates if it meant defeating Labor at the election. Forty
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  Speaker 2: nine percent of Muslims said they would vote Green if
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  Speaker 2: that meant stopping Kirstarma from claiming victory at the upcoming
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  Speaker 2: council elections.
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  Speaker 1: It just goes to show two things.
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  Speaker 2: Number One, Labor have completely lost their demographic that they've
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  Speaker 2: pandered so hard to over the last number of years.
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  Speaker 2: And second, there's a significant number of people in the
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  Speaker 2: UK who will make their voting decision at the upcoming
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  Speaker 2: council elections not on council issues, not on UK issues,
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  Speaker 2: but on what's happening on the other side of the world.
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  Speaker 2: That is a worry for democracy sectarianism, isn't it.
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  Speaker 5: And if you look at the last general election, the
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  Speaker 5: Muslim vote had a massive impact and there were a
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  Speaker 5: number of Greens MPs that were were backed by the
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  Speaker 5: Muslim vote and they won. And then these Greens MPs
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: went out there they were shouting Ala wakba. Then There
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: was also this vision of this guy coming in on
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: a horse during a celebration, no women in sight in
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  Speaker 5: the local area, in which he won, no women in sight,
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  Speaker 5: but he rocked up on a horse and all these
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  Speaker 5: men had this big celebration. So already we have seen it.
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  Speaker 5: But you're right, though Labour's Muslim vote has indeed collapsed,
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  Speaker 5: they claim it. A lot of it has got to
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  Speaker 5: do with They say that Kiyostarma hasn't been strong enough
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  Speaker 5: when it comes to Israel. Yet Kiyostarma, like Anthony Albanezi,
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  Speaker 5: two piece at a pod, they have panned it to
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  Speaker 5: the Muslim vote since October seven, twenty twenty three. But again,
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  Speaker 5: nothing ever satisfies these people. But you've got candidates running
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  Speaker 5: on a pro gaza ticket and that should worry everyone
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  Speaker 5: because it's not British values at heart, it's things happening overseas,
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  Speaker 5: putting that first. And you know, we keep getting told
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  Speaker 5: time and time again that diversity is our strength, multiculturalism
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  Speaker 5: is our strength. Well no it's not, because these people
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  Speaker 5: are not running for their country.
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  Speaker 1: So can I ask you a question on this is
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  Speaker 1: the problem?
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  Speaker 2: Can that it's running on a pro gaza platform or
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  Speaker 2: is the problem.
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  Speaker 1: This survey also found a quarter of.
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  Speaker 2: British Muslims said Gaza would determine their vote. So is
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  Speaker 2: the problem candidate's running on a pro Gaza platform or
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  Speaker 2: is the real problem at the source that is, you've
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  Speaker 2: got a quarter of all British Muslims who are saying
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  Speaker 2: you run on a pro Gaza platform, will vote for you.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's what Winston Churchill famously said was that
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  Speaker 6: you can't reason with a fanatic because they won't change
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  Speaker 6: their mind and they can't change the subject. Or they
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  Speaker 6: can't change their mind and they won't change the subject.
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  Speaker 6: Either way, you've got people who are simply obsessed with
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  Speaker 6: this to the exclusion of everything else. And this is
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  Speaker 6: again it's the problem with radicals or extremists of all stripes.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: Where they're left the extremists on the greens, whether they're
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: Islamic fundamentalists, the US community, if everything you know they
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: believe in is freeing Gaza from Israeli occupation and oppression,
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: and that is the only way that you know the
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: world will be cleansed or whatever, and you know, we
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: all get to go to Paradise or whatever it is.
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: Everything becomes secondary to that. It's a bit like gun
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: rights or abortion in the US, which is like all
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: people care about. It's like I've committed this, and things
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: like climate change, the reformation. People think this is the
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: end of the world. This is you know, this is
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: my very life at stake. Nothing else matters. And so yeah,
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: roads rates and rubbish potholes. What do they care about
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: that if they think that this is the only thing
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: that matters. And no matter how much we saw it
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: with Muslim votes matters here and the Muslim voice here,
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: the sort of Muslim till movement at the last election,
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: which thankfully didn't get a foothold. But you know, they
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: go after the Labor candidates and it's like what Greens
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: themselves do when they try to get into Parliament in
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: the lower House. They go after Labour and it seems
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: like cookoos in the nest. You try to appease them,
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: you try to help them, and unless you do everything
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: they want, they will just turn you in at the
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: first toll booth. They will, you know, the minute they
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: see opportunity, they will just knife you in the back sect.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Certainly cops to get into that.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, spot on that exactly. We'll look back home
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: now the Abenezy government in the last couple of minutes
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: actually has just announced seventy four million dollars in funding
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: to tackle radical extremism. Would you believe this is a
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: counter terrorism online center in partnership with the Australian Security
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Intelligence Organization and the Australian Federal Police to disrupt the
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: evolving thread of online violent extremism as well as terrorism.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: We'll go through the government's plan here that's just been
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: announced by the Home Affairs Minister.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: It's firstly a digital hub to.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: Track online terrorists, a chat room, patrol for radical content,
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: covert disruption of extremist networks, youth protection from rapid radicalization,
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: and strict policing of extremist material. Tony Burke, in a statement,
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: says we already have centers dedicated to protecting children and
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: combating cybercrime. Establishing a center for online violence, extremists and
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: terrorism and is the next logical step in a fast
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: moving threat environment.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: The capability we've always had.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: To monitor extremists in the meeting room now extends to
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: the chat room. A bolstered online threat capacity will give
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: AFP and AZO the resources they need to target terrorists
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: and violent extremists online. You know, it's such a shame
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: that it has taken the alleged murder of fifteen people
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: at Bondai for the Labor government to actually act on this,
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: because these aren't new threats. These are threats that have
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: been around for years. The AFP and AZO have been
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: warning about it. And what has Labor done here? You
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: both might remember just after Bondie attack, there was this
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: scathing article in The Australian. It was the source was
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: a high level security officer told the Australian about the
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: wilful blindness by Labor and the senior ministers about their
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: lack of response to extremist threats, a failure to adequately
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: resource security and intelligence agencies. And once again we're seeing
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: Labor a couple of steps behind the eight ball when
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: it comes to shoring up our security and intelligence capabilities.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: All that being said, thank god they're going to do
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: a bit more, especially in the online space. A study
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: of two hundred convicted terrorists in the UK found that
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: all of them had accessed online propaganda, that had communications
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: online with like minded people, and even some had learned
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: attack methods online. So they're very late to the party
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: and that's inexcusable. That said, thank god they're putting some
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: money into this because the safety of the country depends
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: on it.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, And the truth is, I mean, as we've learned
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: from nine to eleven onwards, often it is only in
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: the wake of a disaster which could or should or
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: might have been avoided or ameliorated if there had been
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: better protocols in place, that governments actually do do things.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: So I'm thinking of the Link Cafe siege.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: There was moves to counter tearism and deradicalization programs. There
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: was that young kid who was radicalized online and I
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: think by local preacher who killed that poor police staffer
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: who worked at I think it was Paramounts, And there
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: was a big there's a big move towards you know,
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: deradicalization and better targeting of online online retater then and again,
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: you know, ICE is doing all this stuff where they
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: just splash this stuff scattered into the cybersphere and just
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: see which crazy it hits. And then if someone does something,
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: it's like, huh, great, it didn't even have to do anything.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Before we go to a break, I want to let
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: you in on a sneak preview of a brand new
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: show starting on Sky Sunday Week, hosted by Yours truly
• 21:40
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• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Stemp right and take your seat. It's time for a
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: brand in Sunday Showdown.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: We find out who's actually been following the news of
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: the week, full.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Of headlines, twists and the week's big stories.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Former Prince Harry, where did you go after Australia Therapy.
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  Speaker 3: Put you knowledge to the test.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: It's crazy logic, but you actually correct.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Quizical with James McPherson start Sunday May seventeen on Sky News.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: So eight thirty pm starting Sunday Week, it's gonna be
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun. Great way to catch up on
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: week and see some of your Sky News favorites and
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: find out who's actually been following the news and who's
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: just been making stuff at.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: A great show, James, congratulations, it's fantastic and it look
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: like you've got a great line up there as well.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: There's a good lineup. Joe Hildebrand will be a regular,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Lucy Zelitz will be a regular, and a whole lot
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: of others that you're familiar with. So it's gonna be
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Let's get Quizzical I say, let's get quizzical. Let's seat quisical,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: clasy cool, let's do it.
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: I've actually had that song in my head ever since
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: we did that.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Thank god they did not ask us to do that for.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: The time in you know, leg warmers and leotard. Just
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: on the treadmill twenty four to seven.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: Let's get James and all.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: We want people to watch it, not turn off. All right,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: here's what's coming up after the break. We'll look at
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: the papers. Sandra Bullock, Sandra Bullock. Yeah, the RBA governor,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Michelle Shell Bullock, Sandra, the actress, Michelle Bullock. Not impressed
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: at reports about what the upcoming budget will contain.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: We'll look at that.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: Luck, wasn't quizzical?
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: What's coming up next?
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, welcome back to the program. Let's take a look
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: at what's making headlines tomorrow. I'll tell you what the
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: papers are all reporting.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Not Sandra Bullock.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Michelle Bullock's criticism of Jim Charmers. The front page of
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: the Advertiser, the headline reads home wreckers.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: That's a pretty dressed.
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: Description, hasn't it on that? This after board of the lies.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: So calling the PM and his treasurer home wreckers. If
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: you go to the Career Mail, they've gone with elbows splash,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: bleeds us dry.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Not particularly complimentary.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: The Daily Telegraph has got Jim stop spending what odds?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Dneka that here listened to.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: That stop right now? I felt that's a good that's
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: a great song for the treasure and Georgio.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: She got to find a song for every single news
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: story we dot.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: The years have not been kind to Sandra Bullock.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: No, I mean the days of miscongeniality have caught up
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: over his well.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Actually, speaking of that, let's go to.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: The Australia now the splash their handouts, Row take.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: A hike, Jim.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: It's Reserve Bank governor, not to be confused with Sandra Bullock,
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: Michelle Bullock, has warned that government handouts to households amid
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: an economic crisis sparked by the Iran War will make
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: it harder to temper inflation, as the RBA lifted interest
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: rates for the third consecutive meeting days before the budget.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: Of course, the banklifted rates zero point two five percentage
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: points to four point three to five percent. And we
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: spoke yesterday, well we spoke last night about the possible
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: handouts the Australian had revealed.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: And you know what baffled me?
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: Well, actually, unsurprisingly today Jim got out there and Jim
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: just couldn't wait to blame Iran.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: That was his first line.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Did they say that baffled you?
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: No?
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: I said it, No, I said it unsurprising.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, sos thing.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: But as in like it baffles me that that he's
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: keeps saying.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: It was not that long ago he was blaming Ukraine.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: That's right, he blamed Ukraine. And now it's back to Iran.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Which we had predicted.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: We said this, So hey, treasurer, maybe you just want
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: to stop you at your record spending.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: How about you just cut back about you just cut back?
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: The fact is that the Iranian war has had an
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: effect on inflation.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: But Michelle Bullock said.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: But as Michelle points out, this was something that she
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: was concerned about and many other economists as well well
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: before the war in the Middle East broke out. And
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers is avoiding any talk of that and focusing
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: exclusively on.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: The war, as you expect him to do. But he's
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: not getting away with it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: It's like that old song goes blame, blame, blame, blame,
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: blame Iran, blame blame bum bum bomb bom Bomaran.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Isn't it.
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: Oh that's right, yeah, yeah, I'll do my cry and
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: in Ukraine.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Put a musical theme.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: We've got this the problem that Michelle Bullker's got and
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: we'll get to this later. When we look at the
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: front page of the Herald's son is that it's not
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: just a federal government, but she's got state governments as well.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: They're all spending like drunken sailors. Well, inflation continues to rise.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Homeowners have just copped their third rate rise this year,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: and the only lever she's got the pull is rates.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: But don't forget that it wasn't just the federal government
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: that handed out these subsidies. The state governments did the
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: exact same thing. And we say this over once. So
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: subsidies peeded out. Inflation was always going to be the target,
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: and by putting these band aid solutions it gave the
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: RBA made the RBA basically tricked the board into thinking
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: that labor had a control over the economy. It was
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: very very clever of Jim, but he's coming undone. Also
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: on the front page of The Australian another exclusive by
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: Liam Mendes, who's done wonderful reporting on Alice Springs in.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: The last week.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: The five year old girl allegedly murdered in Alice Springs
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: was a subject of six child protection reports since mid
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: March and was living in a dangerous environment. Sources familiar
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: with the case of told the Australian Police made the
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: last notification to the Northern Territories Department of Children and Families,
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: the government department responsible for child protection, two days before
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: she went missing in Alice Springs on April twenty five.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: The report was in relation to an alleged assault on
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: the mother at the Old Town Timers Town Camp on
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: April twenty seconds.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Graceful situation, Combelly, haven't better think about it. I wrote
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: a column about it this week, just on now stomach. Anyway.
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: You think we've got problems elsewhere in the country, as
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: you mentioned, James, and I think you came into that
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: segment writing a segue, because that dovetails nicely into what
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: is on the front page of the Herald Sun. As
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: you flagged, one hundred and ninety nine billion dollars is
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: the bill for the Allen government in Victoria, and that
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: makes it thirty two million dollars a day in daily
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: interest that they have to hand.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Over whole lotto spin.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: They said on the front page, one hundred and ninety
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: nine or ninety nine, nineteen ninety three, one hundred million,
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: nine to ninety three, great year for rock and roll.
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: Not so good a figure to have in front of
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: one hundred of million units.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: The Allen government has relied.
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: On an extraordinary one point one billion LOTO deal and
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: top up federal funding to inflate its finances and deliver
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: its first operating surplus in seven years, while Victoria's debt
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: is sit to hit one hundred ninety nine billion by
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: twenty thirty and likely surge past two hundred billion. Handing
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: down the government's final budget before November state election, Treasured
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: Jack gn sime sprooked discipline and restraint as she unveiled
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: a seven hundred and twenty seven million dollars surplus she
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: said would grow to one billion next year. But that
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: figure was underpinned by a forty year extension of the
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: lottery Corporation's license. So they basically said, we'll give you
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: another forty years. What can you give us up front? Oh,
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: one billion, that's just enough to deliver us a surplus
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: before the next dole.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: And to show I applaud this kind of to show
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: how extreme that was. That the normal period for that
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: license to be granted is for ten years, so they've
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: granted it for forty, which has given them enough income
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: to be able to claim.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: You know, we're not talking about debt enough like that
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: figure is unbelievable. One hundred and ninety nine billion dollars.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, obviously federally it's about to reach one trillion,
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: but we don't talk about it enough. And it's generations
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: to come that are going to be paying this behemoth.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Off, which that is the problem.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: It's about sixty billion dollars more and New South Wales
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: debt and about one hundred billion dollars more than the
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Queensland government debt.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: So Victoria's juda.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Victoria isn't a mess. They have been in a mess
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: for years.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: The COVID pandemic though, the lockdowns killed that economy and
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: it has been a rolling trajectory ever since.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the front page of the
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Townsville bulletin. Grand Theft Kiddo reads the headline. Children as
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: young as ten arrested over eleven stolen cars. There's been
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: a wave of car thefts leaving towns or residents on edge.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: A ten year old child arrested in connection with a
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: weekend rampage involving eleven stolen vehicles, a series of brazen
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: thefts culminating in the.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Discovery of what is it a havel eight six?
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Is that one of those Chinese evs I've found burned
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: out in Hermit Park at three am Tuesday? Police say
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: two of the eleven cars remain missing. As someone who's
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: lived in Townsville for a decade, this is no surprise
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: to towns or residents. Cars being stolen out of drive ways,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: out of garage's is a regular occurrence and it's a
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: handful of kids typically that do it over and over again.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: This drives locals nut.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: Let me guess, dolla, incapax will be what happens in court.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: The child is incapable of evil, and as we see
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: time and time again, the cycle of crime continues. Slap
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: on the wrist, off you go back the next week.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Capable of evil, but very capable of driving these cars
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: all through town.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: I need to get the mayor back at that mareback
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: is he still on leave.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Let's not go there, Joe hilde Bread All right, coming
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: up after the break, Starbucks in the US are charging
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: twelve dollars for a cup of coffee. You won't believe
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: the CEO's rationale for it.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: That's coming up next.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Starbucks in the US have a lot of criticism for
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: charging nine dollars US it's about twelve dollars fifty Australian
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: for a cup of coffee, but have listened to the
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: CEO explaining, yeah, but it's worth it for the Starbucks experience.
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: People, you know, they want to have a special experience,
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: and regardless of what your income level is. In some cases,
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: you know, a nine dollars experience does feel like you're splurging.
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: And then what that means is we have to make
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: it worthwhile, right. And then in other cases people believe, well,
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: this is a really affordable premium experience because they're saying, like,
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: well it's less than ten dollars and I get a
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: really premium experience.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: It's not an experience, it's a coffee in a paper cup.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: He went on to say, people want a great moment
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: of connection with their barrista. How do you have a
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: moment of connection with your barista.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure, but has he tasted his own coffee?
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: He says, it's about a special experience.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you've been Starbucks recently, but let
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: me tell you it ain't that great.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Well, if you want to experience drinking motor oil, that
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: would be that would be experienced.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: For Americans, that is a really good experience because they've
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: never had the coffee good points that we have. Yes, yeah,
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: like we have the best coffee in the world and
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: we take it for granted. They have that crap that
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: they have, you know, paper filtered, sitting on the warmer
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: for sixty eight hours before it actually gets to your cup,
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: and then you drink get black.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: It's a shocker.
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: That's it for them. Starbucks is a premium experience.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Oh gosh, yes, well we do. I do think we
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: do have the best coffee.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: The met Gala, of course, the annual Wearable Arts would
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: you call it a festival maybe over in the United States. Yeah,
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: it is a bit like that, isn't it, where you know,
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: celebrities dress up in wearable art. The exhibition is costume
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: art and have a look at some of these monstrosities.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: That made the runway this year. This is Katie Perry.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: Everybody wearing some sort of space suit and she even
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: opened it so you can reveal her eye.
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  Speaker 4: She looks like she's wearing I don't know what is that.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: That's just hideous, absolute hideous.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you wear when you're dating Justin Trudeau and
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  Speaker 2: you're embarrassed. Oh that's a good just don't want to
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: show your face.
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  Speaker 3: That's we've got.
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  Speaker 4: Heidi Klume.
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  Speaker 5: I quite liked Tidi klumb I thought this was very clever.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: She went as a statue. She does the best.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Halloween postically flattering.
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  Speaker 5: No, but it's not well. Look, I mean they're all
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: a bit wacky. Jack wacko jacko.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Cardi b not not too bad. She's always in her
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  Speaker 4: floral arrangements.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: Madonna rocked up with her much younger boyfriend as what
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  Speaker 5: was it?
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  Speaker 4: I think she was a candle.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: She had a ship and she had a ship on
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  Speaker 1: her head.
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  Speaker 4: I was a ship was that? I thought it was
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: going to be like a light, you know what?
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I was like a bottle larbra type.
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  Speaker 3: Of did she keep sailing around Nick Cave.
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  Speaker 5: And yes, Sam Smith, I don't know what's going on there.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: That's some sort of I don't know what.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: That is dressed as a bird, and he could dress
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: he could they sorry they are they is? They is
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: dressed as a bird.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: He could hardly live their monstrosities. They're just it's all
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: just ugly. It's so ugly and I know what it's meant
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: to be ugly. But my goodness, Margo Robbie, what's best
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: on ground? Margot, Margo Robbie.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: The best, Margot Robbie, just a beautiful dress. She was
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: just demure.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: I have to meet this year Harry and Meghan get invited.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: After watching those costumes, I'd say they probably dodged a bullet.
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: One of them should have can't dressed as Harriet has been,
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: and very quickly, just so James can win his ten
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: thousand dollars that I bet him that we wouldn't get
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: to segment the item three. In the last segment, here
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: is a ten second grad of activists on the Freedom
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: flotilla to Israel dancing. You're welcome Australia.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Indeed, dons don't just feel me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll be very welcome when they get to Gaza.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure that's it from us. Stick around coming up
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: is the read a petty show.
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  Speaker 3: Good Night,