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Tee Time w Robyn "One Last Time" · Built In Buffalo Podcast Network

0:19
[SPEAKER_01]: What is up, everyone?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is tea time with from we are back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is up?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's up, Robert?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How you doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pachie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pachie, love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm on Pachie and I'm looking at our little skin that we got over us today and I'm feeling a little bit of the, you know.
0:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Why not?
0:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Why not?
0:46
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a new year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Friend T. Happy New Year to you, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And happy New Year to everyone out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody that happens to be tagging along with us today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully you should have had a wonderful New Year's.
1:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully you did.
1:01
[SPEAKER_01]: New Year.
1:02
[SPEAKER_01]: New Year.
1:03
[SPEAKER_01]: New Year.
1:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, not too bad.
1:06
[SPEAKER_01]: How was your New Year?
1:08
[SPEAKER_01]: It was.
1:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It was asleep by 10.
1:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let me back up.
1:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I only got to sleep that late because I was busy watching the Buffalo Sabers.
1:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, the Sabers man, they are doing the damn thing.
1:25
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what is this?
1:26
[SPEAKER_01]: 10 girlfriends.
1:29
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a turtle.
1:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Tomorrow they play to break the franchise record of consecutive wins.
1:38
[SPEAKER_02]: If they win tomorrow, they break the record.
1:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm telling you Dallas, which is the second best team in the league, are no slouches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I was very like, this can be hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Never play good in Dallas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Always.
2:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So is it there?
2:02
[SPEAKER_02]: It was there.
2:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And I have to say it was probably the best overall hockey game I've watched in 10 years by the savers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I am not kidding really awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So go savers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It makes more than the kind of horrible disgusting loss to Philadelphia Eve.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
2:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, it feels good to have both of the teams in Buffalo having winning records, even though the Buffalo
2:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you just want to pull your hair up.
2:36
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought about this the other day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, if the bills, and I said it early on in this season, I said, if the bills isn't making it to the Super Bowl, I might just have to be a fan of a football fan from now, because the rollercoaster of emotions that you get when you're attached to a team, I don't know if I can
3:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I enjoy watching football, like all teams, except for people that suck like the jets and Miami, like I cannot be a never, never like those teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do enjoy watching football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I made a change too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't probably wouldn't watch them as much either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to be a football fan at some point and not be attached.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like once the bill's won the Super Bowl, I'll probably like, I'm just a fan of football now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be good.
3:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be really just fine at that point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I do concur with what you're saying because I have found as I have gotten older.
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[SPEAKER_02]: it is much harder for me to take these kind of seasons like this season.
3:56
[SPEAKER_02]: This season was up and up and up and down.
4:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And my blood pressure, I can just feel like my head is going to explode.
4:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And frankly, honestly, it feels different when you're old than when you're
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's exciting and all that when you're young.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you're old, I'm like, am I going to make it to the to the next play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a confession to make and I said something to you about this on air.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was so nervous because this game against the Eagles was so crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and the bills were once again, we'll deal with themselves, which we'll lead into.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I decided at that very moment, I had to fix the plumbing in our bathroom.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I went back and forth, I know, he's gonna just, I did it, folks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I did it myself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want everybody to know, I fixed our bathroom faucets myself.
5:05
[SPEAKER_02]: But I did it during the game because I was so nervous, I kept running in and out, running in and out, running in and out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was like it's still 13 to nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How long has this game been 13 to nothing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I just listen, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We love Josh when he is Superman, but sometimes, Kryptonite, Kryptonite is Josh's weakness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He, I don't, he had another,
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[SPEAKER_01]: brain fart like he had in with the Cleveland Browns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we you just cannot continue to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we spoke about this off of Mike to where sometimes chasing and Josh doing too much kills the momentum and also kills this team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is why I said I just want to be a fan of football now
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not season two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not a rookie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not even season three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is season eight, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude at some point when he was right around that when he was right around in the Browns I was like, okay, what do you any time Josh goes and not direct sit and try to go right back in it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's no you're done You're done
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, and then the weather was just crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know people like all the weather if you shouldn't talk about the weather, you guys didn't even Buffalo, you're supposed to play in the weather.
6:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But this was rain that was constant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't stop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It rains in other cities, doesn't it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know, they beat themselves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love my quarterback, but to take the check down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll back up the train a little bit.
7:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what did the play just happen, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Joe Brady said, what the, are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he's at now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's for another time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, we'll get to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is a pattern, it is who they are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was listening to Bruce Exclusive, and he mentioned something about three games can be a trend, beginning of a trend or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Eight games is an identity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is the bill's identity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you're right in terms of its high stakes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's high stakes all the time go down 14 points come back get down 21 points come back I mean it's insane and I don't want to hear He doesn't trust his wife is here.
8:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to hear that okay for anybody that's listening Don't hold me to this because I have to be in the right mood to do it, but at some point
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really probably should write an article because I have some high heels.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listen to her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Easy for you to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you guys don't know, Robin writes for a babbling.
8:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, but I have some babbling to do because this discussion that you're talking about Josh Allen,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's face it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is Wyoming cowboy Josh Allen that we're seeing again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and when does Wyoming cowboy Josh Allen show up?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, for a lot of different reasons, he shows up, but when he does show up, what you see is the most impatient quarterback you are ever going to find.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is too impatient.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He won't take the check downs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He wants to go for the throat on every single play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that is where he's got to get inside of his own head and figure out, why do you do this, Josh?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because you are doing this again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to keep this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now it is a trend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we don't want it to become his identity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't want it to become his identity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it might.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I can't say it enough what you said to just blame the wide receivers not being able to get open.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is so low hanging fruit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Totally.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In besides, who did Josh Allen ever have in his best
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[SPEAKER_02]: at wide receiver, other take out the stuff on digs years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, just take those out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But outside of that, he really hasn't had a posse of wide receivers of any significant talent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All the time that he's been in Buffalo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hell, he didn't have them in Wyoming either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he had Tanner Gentry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was good, but he's impatient.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's impatient.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He has become impatient again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and it's time for him to sit down with himself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It really is, because at some point in time, you have to get past that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to get past it, because it's this fatal flaw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, it definitely definitely is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the first three quarters,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, sitting there, I'm like, we are still at zero with a Josh Allen leading the Buffalo Bills.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're still, we have no points on the board where regardless of who's on the field and I know that the weather makes everything even.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get it, I so understand it,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to say, but we still got Josh Allen, and, and I'm not saying you guys, you Robin, I'm just saying people in general, I can't stand their head coach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He, ooh, grinds my freaking, oh my gears, I can't stand he's so cocky.
12:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Watching, um, the game over again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, when we're on, I just put the game on because they're just for Francis, like what, you know, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay, but every time was like, well, this season, you know, they really don't have that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but we got Josh Allen is like, but we don't have that.
12:18
[SPEAKER_01]: But we all, we have Josh Allen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what happens when you're all, wordly God quarterback has a shit of a game where he can't get out of his own way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's putting this team and
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just say that, and I'm not here to trash Josh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not here, I mean, if it wasn't for Josh, this team would not be where it's at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do understand that, but if you play within the means of the game, they could have scored twice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Twice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is a pattern again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and he's the only one who can change that narrative.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is who he is, or Robin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is who he is, he's absolutely is who he is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No changing, like you said, Bruce said, it's this is who he is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Trying to, and you know what's so crazy is that, yes, I try to see that Josh Allen did regret.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did regret, I don't say it, he didn't regret.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he has, he has.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely has you know the numbers freaks can you know put up all the numbers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care about the number.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I test it tell me Josh Do show that he has regressed yes He has regressed the season so you ask yourself well why okay?
13:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we're you know the This is what I find so rich Who was the person touting Josh Allen in the draft?
14:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I was about the only one
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[SPEAKER_02]: You were, I'll give you that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I am his biggest supporter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have always been his biggest supporter, but I've also been a realist to know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His game comes with warts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It comes with warts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the thing that can change things to get him back into the mode he needs to get back into, aren't that hard?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's mental.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like a telling a kid and I'm not saying Josh is a kid is just an example of telling a kid don't touch that don't touch that and it continue to touch that don't touch that and then continue to do it it's like Okay, then I just tell you don't do any insight for Josh Josh right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: take the take it right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, take it right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The breath.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's just like, no, I'm going to take that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to take that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to take that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not the reaction when he walked off the field after the game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was living rightfully so with himself rightfully so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, I saw this petulant child, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like just,
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[SPEAKER_02]: disgusted and couldn't believe that it actually happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the bottom line is, Josh, you're creating this whole environment on your own in terms of being impatient.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You are doing this on your own.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This isn't some wide receiver-knocketing separation or...
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't like face.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said, many, he said a lot of bad wide receivers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't buy any of that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But what I do buy is him falling back into old habit patterns because we see that with him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His baseline is Wyoming Josh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's his baseline and he knows that's why he got drafted because he was that Yomi Josh and we understand it But at some point This was two games in a row.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had Yomi Josh who almost had a safety and you twirped your fruit tweaked your freaking foot Because of a Yomi Josh
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[SPEAKER_01]: We can be here all day talking about Josh and we have to move on, but you know it's a worthy discussion is definitely a worthy discussion because not even that at some point we're going to discuss this on the offseason as well because we don't know how far we're going to go and we're going to have those conversations on a little bit later, but let me ask you they call it a forward pass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was positive out of that whole fiesta is the equals only score three points on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, when it happened, the reaction was Josh, arguing with the rough, dude, for your teammates, everybody else, and I know you play into the whistle.
17:16
[SPEAKER_01]: You play into the whistle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We was always taught that basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You play into the whistle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These guys just assumed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the other team was like, free ball, get ball, where our guys, like it's rolling, it's rolling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanna just grab it, right, like, I just, I don't know, it was so frustrating.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If this game was frustrating, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was, and it wasn't just the way that it ended.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was the way that the whole game went down,
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was 13, didn't nothing going into the fourth quarter.
18:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I said to my friend, are we not going to score this game?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I text my friend, when was the last time the bills been shut out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, you know what, I'm not even going to, don't even tell me.
18:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I don't even want to know.
18:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I said because I do, I cannot, I do not see the bills being shut out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I know this team goals as far as Josh goes, but that was a scary, but a reality check type of a game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was, it was a reality check and because we've probably beaten this dead horse,
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was some good in the game.
18:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, thank you.
18:49
[SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to page.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They got in the page.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was some good in this game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it didn't really resonate with me until I started looking closer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Checking out a little of the all 22, you know, that sort of thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I made a couple notes.
19:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And I wondered what your thoughts were about this.
19:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I think TJ Sanders
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[SPEAKER_02]: like a defensive tackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
19:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So CJ, he's been playing the last few games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he was a defensive end, and that's not his mission.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's not his position, not his position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know what spark, like we've always said, the rookie's will hit a rookie wall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for CJ, he hasn't because he was out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: exact injured.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he still got those fresh legs of whatever now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I liked that they're moving him around, but like you said, he is not a defensive end.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Put his put his butt inside and learn his job as a dear three technique defensive tackle.
20:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's playing well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Walker is always playing well.
20:05
[SPEAKER_01]: He had a spell there and some of those games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a, I think he hit the rookie wall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in this game, he showed up again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, and I can hardly wait.
20:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know how much I love these, my big boys.
20:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And this big boy is going to have his body reshaped by some proper training in the off season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's going to have that whole off season to let all that experience because he had so much so many reps this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to come back next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ready to light the world on fire.
20:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
20:42
[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to be here for it because I think he's going to be a, I think he's going to be a game record.
20:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And for you, Sandra, I mean, if I hear, like, you won the game, you shouldn't be happy that you won the game.
20:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if we won the game, we would be on here saying, still, what's going on with Josh?
21:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Our offense looks stagnant.
21:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Our defense only good thing about is a defense.
21:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Unless continue with what the defense, the defense didn't allow a first of all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The defense held, say, Juan Barclay.
21:20
[SPEAKER_01]: to 68 yards, I want to say.
21:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, when 19, was it 19 carries?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, 19's attempts and 68 yards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they, like, I just, I need this defense to show up in the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the first half, too.
21:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we plead?
21:40
[SPEAKER_01]: We're on the good, we're on the good Robin, we're on the good now.
21:43
[SPEAKER_01]: See, you didn't, you didn't run up the bat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have to have to go pause, put a pin in the good for a minute.
21:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna need my offense to smell some smelling soft, please.
21:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you guys are doing.
21:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Like me around and said, not on air.
21:59
[SPEAKER_01]: You cannot continue to go 21 to 0 and be down and think you're going to do this in the playoffs.
22:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to be able to do that in the playoffs.
22:08
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
22:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though that was those two games were good teams, it's just tight, it's tight in the playoffs.
22:20
[SPEAKER_02]: It is.
22:21
[SPEAKER_02]: But one thing that I thought was very positive coming out of this game was a solid belief that what am I always yak and about being able to run the ball and being able to stop the run.
22:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we haven't been able to stop the run in the earlier part of this season, but truthfully, over the last say whatever six, seven games.
22:50
[SPEAKER_02]: has approved unrun defense much much much better much better.
22:56
[SPEAKER_02]: So watching what we did to say Juan Barclay, even though they're not the same animal, doesn't frighten me quite as much to go up against Derek Henry.
23:09
[SPEAKER_02]: King Henry, we've stopped him before.
23:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I know we have, you know what it
23:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I just same, so different, whatever.
23:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, Ravens, hey, Pittsburgh, please do what you need to do, okay?
23:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I just do what's happening.
23:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see Derek, I'm just so tired of that.
23:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Ravens team, no offense, all the offense.
23:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't want to see, I'm good, in plus, they always play them.
23:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like, you know,
23:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the Ravens, it's Pittsburgh, it's the Eagles, it's Houston, it's those type of gritty teams that the bills seem to get hurt on.
23:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's always going to be a dogfight.
23:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes, that's got sack five times in this Eagles game.
24:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Josh got set 40, 40 times this season.
24:05
[SPEAKER_01]: compared to what 14 times they said last year that was in the prior to that prior to that season of 14 he got set multiple times and the year before so he's gotten beat up this year.
24:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And when Josh gets beat up, it's never a good thing.
24:22
[SPEAKER_02]: It's never a thing that's why I can really see the argument of going back and forth about whether he should even see the field against the jets.
24:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to talk about that as well, but let's stay on some good big time catch by shafers.
24:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I mentioned earlier, can't take them off the field.
24:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Can't why are we not throwing more toward him, why is he not incorporated in the game plan more?
24:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I do like the fact that we are seeing throws down the field.
24:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they are, they are emphasized, emphasis this on this particular game to see, and it's crazy on this game when it's raining.
25:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's throw the ball down the field.
25:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Not on a nice day, let's do it in a rain, but, you know, hell, whatever.
25:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Cooks that's a great catch.
25:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You could have had another one if you could attract the ball.
25:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you knew where it was on.
25:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Shafers again.
25:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Shafers with a big time catch.
25:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I love him.
25:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I just love him.
25:31
[SPEAKER_02]: He's so complete.
25:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's so...
25:34
[SPEAKER_02]: He can blow.
25:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
25:37
[SPEAKER_02]: He's steady atty, and you can trust him, just trust him.
25:42
[SPEAKER_02]: And not even that.
25:44
[SPEAKER_01]: That's been hard to see.
25:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel the same.
25:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes.
25:48
[SPEAKER_02]: That's an odd.
25:49
[SPEAKER_02]: He can throw to Jackson Haas and he's like a safety valve.
25:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know why they're not using, you know, not using them more.
25:56
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not.
25:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know what it is.
26:00
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not easy, you know, help me.
26:02
[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that he's shapers is getting a Jersey over your draft pick, I mean, Coleman is crazy to me.
26:11
[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's crazy.
26:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if we'll ever know and I know Sandra, you know a little bit about it, but the real story of what's going on with this guy and how did he follow the favors and it's just
26:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, some extent because you wish as a fan that you could understand a little bit about what what's going on behind the scenes because if they don't he has to start this week.
26:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you've had the reason they're going to rest you're here.
26:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, no, no, you're putting that guy in there just just for this.
26:55
[SPEAKER_01]: just see to as a trade like he can do this.
26:58
[SPEAKER_01]: He can do this.
26:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't you want this guy?
27:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember they sampled semi-walkings.
27:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And he got traded out of here.
27:08
[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe he's got to get in what a good game to pick against the jets who are tanking and they don't give to life.
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: He seems like they win or moves.
27:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
27:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So more good in this, the defense like we talked about,
27:22
[SPEAKER_01]: hurts to complete a single pass in the second half in look.
27:29
[SPEAKER_01]: The Eagles offense was in the second half, zero points, zero completion, 16 yards.
27:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Crazy.
27:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Crazy.
27:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell us what you have.
27:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Crazy.
27:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we just say the same thing?
27:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the same time.
27:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
27:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
27:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And that tells you that this,
27:51
[SPEAKER_01]: The tale of two has is a nut, that's the season of the Buffalo Bills and a nut shell.
27:56
[SPEAKER_02]: It really is.
27:57
[SPEAKER_02]: It truly is and I don't ever remember a season like this one in that regard.
28:04
[SPEAKER_02]: First half, second half.
28:07
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a whole different game.
28:11
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, yeah, it's a whole different team.
28:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
28:14
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, what did they give them weedies or something at half time?
28:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know.
28:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's going on.
28:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we shut it.
28:21
[SPEAKER_01]: We can bring someone on.
28:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe we'll do it in the offseason to explain.
28:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, because I know the defense was totally different.
28:31
[SPEAKER_01]: They were doing things.
28:33
[SPEAKER_01]: They had, what's this, Doring Williams was just all over the place.
28:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Spying.
28:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Michael Hoyt type of a role.
28:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and he's starting to fit into that.
28:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
28:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
28:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And we could see we could see more of that, which wouldn't hurt my feelings at all.
28:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And then just next year when Hoyt comes back and you have Hoyt and you have.
29:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
29:04
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, yeah, the defense.
29:08
[SPEAKER_02]: If healthy, if we had a healthy defense and hadn't lost at Oliver, what is speaking of it?
29:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh God, Robin, what just happened?
29:20
[SPEAKER_01]: We were so excited and then
29:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, why do you see her is me a procedure and is like me.
29:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and here's what that brings up another question about, okay, this happened during the rehab process, while he's rehabbing this happens.
29:49
[SPEAKER_02]: So are we going to have some conversations you and I T during the off season about our strength and conditioning people.
30:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we're going to get an episode.
30:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get this now.
30:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Write it down because we need to have some conversations about this.
30:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know what to say.
30:15
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, okay, so we're rehabbing the arm, but now your knee needs to be scoped.
30:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Huh?
30:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Huh?
30:26
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, excuse me?
30:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I was supposed to get back like this week.
30:30
[SPEAKER_01]: My knee.
30:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I just let the gas out of my bag.
30:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it did.
30:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I was seeing that I was like, because Sean McDermott said that he had a setback and we're like, on his, he was his raisinist daughter and he was torn up in the air.
30:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Was that what happened?
30:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, no, this is me.
30:48
[SPEAKER_01]: His knee.
30:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
30:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
30:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I do want to talk about this.
31:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen something out there, you know.
31:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Twitter is a crazy place.
31:06
[SPEAKER_01]: The internet in general.
31:08
[SPEAKER_01]: People like, do you should, should Sean went forward on the field?
31:15
[SPEAKER_01]: She needs settled for the field goal or would you find with the two point conversion?
31:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, in what confidence does anybody have in that kicker and that got to kicker.
31:32
[SPEAKER_02]: No way.
31:33
[SPEAKER_02]: That was, that was a no brainer.
31:35
[SPEAKER_02]: If ever there was ever a question about it, it would be if the kicker was any good.
31:40
[SPEAKER_02]: But that kicker was, he was, he was cut from Indianapolis for missing an extra point.
31:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he does it with the bills.
31:49
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to try him out there.
31:50
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
31:53
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, you put your player out there and you put him in the best player in the situation to give you a win as Josh Allen.
32:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's come through most of the time.
32:04
[SPEAKER_02]: He did not come through on that play.
32:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say, I think his foot is bothering him a lot more than what he is willing to talk about because you could tell that his mechanics were off in this game.
32:19
[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll get into more of that in the scope.
32:22
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's time to spell the tea.
32:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll spell it.
32:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just... All over the place.
32:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
32:30
[SPEAKER_00]: You and the tea.
32:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not just seeing the play where James Cook is still watching the game hit and everybody thought it was a fumble like no that wasn't a fumble but um he did hit his freaking head on that thing though um my spill the tea is the kicker oh so heavy is like waiting to that nice guy student you did that's why I said let's spill the tea here's the thing about the kickers and and we're gonna we're gonna go out and get one next year I'm pretty sure I'm gonna draft a kicker
33:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler Bass, I don't know if you're going to be here about the next year.
33:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you are great because I don't think you're going to get off that contract.
33:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're not, we got to go get one.
33:24
[SPEAKER_01]: We had three kickers come in.
33:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And you all besides the one that's coming back.
33:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Prater.
33:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Prater's coming back.
33:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing that I'm going to need and I'm going to bring in a main to do.
33:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna need to put something together and put it on paper to say, I need you to read this before you sign your contract.
33:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Buffalo Bill's fans and kickers.
33:53
[SPEAKER_01]: We love you!
33:55
[SPEAKER_01]: when we love you.
33:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But from our past history, you're going to have to understand the importance of a kicker on this on this team.
34:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I know some other teams are like kickers are blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
34:20
[SPEAKER_01]: a kicker is to this team.
34:23
[SPEAKER_01]: This motherfucker, miss an extra point.
34:27
[SPEAKER_01]: An extra point!
34:33
[SPEAKER_01]: The school was 13 to 12, right?
34:37
[SPEAKER_01]: 13, 14.
34:38
[SPEAKER_01]: What was it?
34:39
[SPEAKER_01]: God dang it, I don't even know.
34:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever.
34:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, thank you.
34:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It was 13 to 12 and you missed an extra point.
34:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like,
34:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully that does not come back to bite us in our ass.
34:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And what did it do?
34:53
[SPEAKER_01]: What did it do?
34:53
[SPEAKER_01]: How?
34:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Bit us.
34:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
34:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate your time here.
34:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But you got to hit the door and don't.
35:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And no, you know what?
35:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Let that door hit you in, yes, when you walk out.
35:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause you're no longer on the team.
35:08
[SPEAKER_01]: but I'm gonna need a contract and big letters to say you might be the most important player on this bill's technique science challenge.
35:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You might be the most important player on this team as a kicker.
35:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It's true, you mentioned that's really interesting about our history with kickers, in terms of, but really, it does, it explains a lot in terms of why it makes us crazy, it makes us crazy because ever since wide right, that makes us crazy.
35:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, God, thank you.
35:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I, let me tell you what I do for the last year, any time, let's tell the best, miss that one, with, with, with, um,
36:08
[SPEAKER_01]: the chiefs, that whole next season, I did not go in and watch a kick, that whole season.
36:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I would leave, extra, extra points, just feel goals, I would not watch.
36:21
[SPEAKER_01]: My friends thought it was crazy.
36:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I can't do this.
36:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I, I, I, I get so, and see, and thank you, Mr. God, you did again.
36:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You made me feel, and see, with the kicks now, not to leave again.
36:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's solve that problem, please, during the off season.
36:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
36:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Kickers, Robin.
36:46
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about kickers.
36:49
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be talking about kickers for the rest of our lives.
36:53
[SPEAKER_02]: OK, my disability.
36:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't want to preface this, because I don't have an answer for this.
37:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to talk about it.
37:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Whether or not to play players
37:08
[SPEAKER_02]: They could, for example, James Cook could win the rushing title.
37:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you let him play to do that?
37:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you hold him out?
37:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you, what do you do with players under these circumstances?
37:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Because there's nothing in it.
37:26
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no incentive in this jet's game whatsoever.
37:31
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's nothing to play for in that regard in terms of winning or losing.
37:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
37:37
[SPEAKER_02]: So what do you do with your star players?
37:41
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you do with Josh Allen and his tender foot?
37:45
[SPEAKER_02]: because the one thing you don't want to do is reactivate it, but at the same time he's sitting with 39 touchdowns and he'd sure like to have what seven years in a row or whatever.
37:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we'd be plus touchdowns.
37:57
[SPEAKER_02]: How how do you balance that?
37:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And what are your thoughts, T?
38:04
[SPEAKER_01]: For me, I just sit Josh Allen.
38:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really care.
38:07
[SPEAKER_01]: No disrespect to Josh and I know he's
38:13
[SPEAKER_01]: to have that record of not missing any considered any games.
38:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and I get that, but I'll just say this personally.
38:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this season has been a very difficult season for the players and Josh.
38:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe this might be a reality check for a lot of people and players, and we'll get into it later on about how far I think this team will go.
38:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I would sit them, I would just sit them, like if you want to help the Josh out of going to the playoffs and if you try to push for a super bowl, you got to sit them, you know, I mean, for snap, you go in there for who you, I mean, I don't, it's as a fan, sit his ass.
39:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and in the foot, as you point out, you know, the foot,
39:06
[SPEAKER_02]: get re aggravated.
39:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And you don't know.
39:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And I said this off mic with you.
39:12
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know how other players are looking at this team and wanting to harm this team or hurt players.
39:22
[SPEAKER_01]: because we're not going in, we're not doing anything, but you're, and so you're not either.
39:27
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
39:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't know how people's mindset going into the team are going into this game.
39:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't want to sit anybody and everyone.
39:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know James Cook, that situation is different because maybe he hasn't sent us if he breaks.
39:46
[SPEAKER_01]: or if he's the leader of the Russian title.
39:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure there's a bonus in there.
39:50
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be something.
39:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Shakira too, if he catches another touchdown, he has a million, he has an incentive of a million dollars.
39:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Joey Bolsa, if he gets a sack, he gets, and he said that with the Cleveland game, he only needed one more sack.
40:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a lot of things on, it's a lot to consider.
40:16
[SPEAKER_01]: To go play and be fearful because that's when you did hurt exactly exactly it's it's crazy and doesn't not I think also yes but also months could have had a touchdown past the last game if you would have not clap before the ball came to you I don't know why you clap in the ball wasn't in your hands yet but you know that's not here nor there Dawson I think you just have the baby brain
40:42
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it is one of this baby brain.
40:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a good word for it, baby brain.
40:48
[SPEAKER_02]: But let's get into our winning points.
40:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
40:53
[SPEAKER_02]: So... Oh, don't move.
40:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, everyone's a winner, baby.
40:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move, don
41:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead, Robin.
41:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I would not be myself if I didn't always start out with the same winning point that I have had all season long.
41:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And since probably we started this whole gig with winning points, run the ball and stop the run.
41:29
[SPEAKER_02]: that is how you win the game.
41:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, this game, I don't have a lot of angst about, I don't have a lot of anything about because this, after what the Patriots did to the Jets last week, I'm pretty sure the Jets are just mailing it in, like, oh yeah, big telling them.
41:53
[SPEAKER_02]: So,
41:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Why would we, you know, as we were talking about before, why would you want to put in players, you know, just so they could get different titles and that sort of thing?
42:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, whatever, I say, and I saw, I can't remember who I could credit for this, but I saw it on social media, talking about making sure, and I hadn't thought about it this way, but I think it's really valid in the last game, especially under the circumstances we are,
42:23
[SPEAKER_02]: In this game where it doesn't really amount to much in terms of implications, run, bring up every single practice player you can.
42:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, please reward those guys that have been on the bench basically the whole season.
42:41
[SPEAKER_02]: And they contribute far more than I think fans realize in terms of being a scout team and practice.
42:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And all the things that they do, they're there, they fly, they're with the team, they sacrifice everything.
42:58
[SPEAKER_02]: And they don't get paid most of them very much.
43:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's a way of recognizing their effort.
43:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure, I'm with that.
43:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with that for sure.
43:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he do it.
43:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, he's going to have to do something because you don't want your starters out there.
43:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And especially, you don't even know who you're playing.
43:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't really matter who you're playing.
43:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, you know, you're why receivers, like Brandon's cook sits at most of your, why receivers sit except for Keon Coleman.
43:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Shakira, if he wants to play, so he can get that incentive that touchdown.
43:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, um, who else, uh, that I think, uh, what's the name she said?
43:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Matt Milano should sit for sure.
43:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Can K continue to sit.
43:51
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the two, um, Titans play them tails.
43:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Dawson knots.
43:57
[SPEAKER_01]: If you can.
43:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Jackson Haas, let this be a toss.
44:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
44:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It, um, goaler.
44:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Great goaler out there.
44:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
44:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
44:10
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, but my winning points, Sean McDermott was asked if he wants to start or is whatever he wants to play to start.
44:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Sean McDermott said, I want to win this game against the jet.
44:24
[SPEAKER_01]: So if his mindset is to win, it is what it is.
44:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's going to, I don't think they're going to play starters like that, but if his mindset is to win, he's going to put the players out there.
44:39
[SPEAKER_01]: give them the greatest chance to win a game.
44:43
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be interesting to see because they're competing interests, right?
44:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you want to win, but you really don't want to get anybody hurt.
44:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's always a risk.
44:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And when it comes to the screen game, and I know you said it as well, Robin, there has to be some type of
45:09
[SPEAKER_01]: The screen is going to set up for something else.
45:12
[SPEAKER_01]: It has to.
45:13
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen too many screens this season.
45:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It has to be selling favorite pass, either.
45:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's not.
45:22
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so this screen has to be something besides it.
45:26
[SPEAKER_01]: 13 to 0, going into the half.
45:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at us.
45:39
[SPEAKER_01]: um give me some memories from the stadium and stories if you have any.
45:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have any?
45:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't.
45:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And here's why because when I was young um we lived out in the sticks and couldn't afford to go to the games and then when I was older and I lived in the city I was working and going to school at the same time so I never had any time off to go to the games so most of my experience
46:09
[SPEAKER_02]: if I was working, and I used to laugh about this when I was working at Roswell Park, everybody would have the game on, all the patients would have the game on, and I'd just go from room to room.
46:21
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, wait.
46:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait.
46:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, when you lived in Buffalo, what year was that?
46:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I lived in Buffalo and worked at Roswell from 1976 until 1982.
46:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So now where they was was at the rock wall?
46:43
[SPEAKER_02]: No, that was that was rich stadium.
46:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, okay, that was rich because rich stadium and this is one, my memory is more about the fact that rich stadium was opened.
46:57
[SPEAKER_02]: My senior year in high school in 1973, and so I always thought, oh, wow, what a brand new, beautiful stadium, blah, blah, blah, blah.
47:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, by now, you know, 50 some years later, it's like an old relic.
47:12
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, I do want to say if anybody has a subscription to the athletic, Tim Graham wrote the most incredible article about the stadium.
47:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I got to go read that.
47:25
[SPEAKER_02]: You please do, well, it'll bring tears to your eyes.
47:29
[SPEAKER_02]: He talked about the tunnel a lot and how unique the tunnel was.
47:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And the history of the tunnel and all the stuff that went on in the tunnel.
47:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a purpose of walking the tunnel.
47:42
[SPEAKER_01]: You did?
47:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I went to, I, um, so the Buffalo Bills have, where fans could go to the Buffalo, to the stadium.
47:52
[SPEAKER_01]: do what they do a tour.
47:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe I don't even can't remember.
47:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I did it one time and I took my niece as well.
48:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So we went the visitor side, locker room, of course, you know, their side and locker room at the home, locker room as well.
48:07
[SPEAKER_01]: and so we were coming and the guy was like the tunnel is where both teams because there's not an entrance for the visitors team.
48:17
[SPEAKER_01]: They all walk up all through the same, the same, him and it was just, I'm just like, so you tell me that the bills and the the
48:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And as I, you could just imagine after like that Dianne Dawkins and whatever that guy Clemson or whatever his name is
48:42
[SPEAKER_01]: The heated exchange that they had.
48:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he's got this.
48:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's got this.
48:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's got this.
48:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've got to read it.
48:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got to read it.
48:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got to read it.
48:50
[SPEAKER_02]: His yield, you'll really get a kick out of some of the history of what went on in the hallway.
48:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I bet.
48:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I bet.
48:56
[SPEAKER_01]: The only history I do have is I took my kids, because I don't go to games either, but because I cut me in crowds, we do not get along.
49:04
[SPEAKER_01]: But I did take my kids to a kept game.
49:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And they freaking loved it.
49:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Loved it like they were bait they weren't babies.
49:14
[SPEAKER_01]: They were like seven eight and they're now in 13 So they enjoy themselves, but um, yeah, you know, they only remember I have is the drought and Me screaming the way I was like, you know, just crazy Crying and ladies looking at me like I'm crazy.
49:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like you don't understand
49:38
[SPEAKER_01]: See, it's okay.
49:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I don't understand.
49:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but seeing that stuff my friends and my friends were like, oh, right, like, I don't get it.
49:53
[SPEAKER_01]: We're born here.
49:54
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we watch that game, watch that that Miami game, or you're just sitting there, you're just like, what's going?
50:01
[SPEAKER_01]: What is happening, and then you go and watch the Bengals game, you're just like,
50:08
[SPEAKER_01]: it was so freaky it was crazy it was crazy but I mean we don't even have to think about that anymore the drought has been broken here's another thing that I just seen someone say and I swear people just come out of the woodworks just to stab us in the hearts so the bills have won the FCEs well if you didn't know now the
50:34
[SPEAKER_01]: freaking patriots.
50:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Excuse my fortune.
50:38
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how much I love them.
50:39
[SPEAKER_01]: The Patriots have won the AFC East this year.
50:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I just just seen a statistics thing that Josh Allen in the Buffalo Bills have won it five times and has, and it's meant nothing.
50:55
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
50:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we haven't gone through a Super Bowl in that time.
51:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Please.
51:02
[SPEAKER_01]: spare me.
51:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I think people forget that we are in the age of a freaking, another team trying to reach a dynasty.
51:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was the chiefs and it wasn't like the chiefs beat us.
51:19
[SPEAKER_01]: It was always a one-score game.
51:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think people on the surface, like to hear themselves talk and don't dig in and see what's really going on in there.
51:34
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so easy to say, well, they go on, they want it five times, what did I do?
51:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, okay, guy, I said you like the dramatic stuff.
51:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I see, oh, nothing, and it's about it to nothing.
51:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that what you want it?
51:49
[SPEAKER_01]: You got it.
51:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I just said that Joss was limited today, um, okay, and Bolsa is questionable.
51:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And we know that Bernard is not as not playing.
52:01
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think Bernard should just go on IR to be personally.
52:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he should just go on IR.
52:07
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't need to see the field this season.
52:09
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's done.
52:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Just be good.
52:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for your time.
52:12
[SPEAKER_01]: But this year, you have had, you've been injury prone for some odd reason.
52:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Even but even even training camp robin.
52:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
52:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been a lost year for him.
52:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
52:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Completely.
52:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think there needs to be a position move too.
52:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
52:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Middle line backer.
52:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
52:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you.
52:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I am so with you.
52:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I think his position is suited better when he's playing.
52:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it metal models position?
52:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
52:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
52:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
52:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And Memo, I'm probably not going to be resigned unless you know, unless they win the Super Bowl and.
52:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because he's showing he's got gas left in the tank.
52:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.
53:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Sean McDermott, y'all, y'all making me mad.
53:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Sean McDermott was asked on WDR.
53:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Josh Allen will practice Friday and he will be a good to go versus the Jets.
53:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Sean.
53:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
53:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Daniel Jones and employer will not play versus the Jets.
53:34
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not a good thing.
53:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what's going on with the clock?
53:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it his calf?
53:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
53:43
[SPEAKER_02]: He said a lot of injuries.
53:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure what this last one was.
53:47
[SPEAKER_02]: A peck maybe.
53:48
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he had the peck before I don't know.
53:52
[SPEAKER_02]: But not having him or at Oliver is troublesome.
54:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope he's okay for the playoffs because we need him.
54:05
[SPEAKER_02]: So, oh my God, oh yeah.
54:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Gonna be dicey.
54:13
[SPEAKER_02]: You may be playing in the playoffs, it was Zion-Logue.
54:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh God Jesus Christ.
54:19
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you know, it's just the reality of this season, as you said.
54:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Sam's that we're here now.
54:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Going into this playoffs.
54:32
[SPEAKER_01]: How you feeling, Robin?
54:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you hit me with stuff, but I love it.
54:40
[SPEAKER_02]: What I'm thinking about the playoffs.
54:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking, and this is the God's honest truth.
54:47
[SPEAKER_02]: This team could be easily one and done or win the Super Bowl.
54:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't got a clue.
54:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't feel like there's enough there for a Super Bowl victory.
55:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I, if I were to be a betting person, which I'm not, I would say, maybe they get past the first round, and I don't think they get past the second round unless their offense shows some kind of consistency, which we have not seen.
55:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
55:26
[SPEAKER_01]: That's yeah, I'm with you, too.
55:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I'm not feeling too confident when it comes to his playoffs.
55:35
[SPEAKER_01]: with a buffalo bills, I don't know about the one and done, because I think if it's one and done, someone's gonna be fired, but I am confident.
55:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I'm so,
55:51
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of people still, we're going to the Super Bowl and I want to beat those people, but I can't, I just can't put myself there because of the whole season and I know it's a different season.
56:04
[SPEAKER_01]: The playoffs is, it's season of itself.
56:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I so understand it, but I don't feel comfortable.
56:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You know how you felt comfortable last year going into this, the playoffs.
56:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
56:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we're, we're hitting our feet.
56:17
[SPEAKER_01]: She's at the right time.
56:20
[SPEAKER_01]: This season has always been a, and you know if I take the vow of not having a roller coaster season.
56:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't do it with the bills, but this season has been when lost, when lost, when lost, when lost, when, lost, when, when lost, lost, lost, lost, lost, you just like, wait a minute.
56:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just, you couldn't help but to get on the ride.
56:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And,
56:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to be like, I'm a fan of, we'll see.
56:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm that we're on the internet, you know?
56:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm with you there because I've learned over the years, it doesn't do me personally as a fan, any good to try to look beyond the next game.
57:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's all that I've been able to do this year because every, like you said, it's win-lose, win-lose, win-lose, lose.
57:14
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, there's no, I haven't had at all the season a period of time where I felt like this team is really good.
57:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I guess you're I did.
57:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and this year I'm not feeling it.
57:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just be honest.
57:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not feeling it.
57:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what is so crazy and it's and it all stems.
57:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the head.
57:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Josh.
57:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I would feel comfortable if Josh was on his A game.
57:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't get me wrong.
57:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I know Josh is a different
57:54
[SPEAKER_01]: we have to hope so this year right we have to hope so but there was always been us some some relief because you seen Josh in last year where it was like oh man he's on his game this year it was like it's always been all over the place yes it's
58:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And I get why they do it, but this last game do the opposite of what you've have done.
58:28
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
58:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
58:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Do the opposite of that.
58:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Take the toss win.
58:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Take the ball.
58:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Take the ball.
58:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know, Robin.
58:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I've talked enough when it comes to this fricking team because it is what it is.
58:51
[SPEAKER_01]: We are a, what did they, what was they, oh, we don't know, they're 11 and five right now, right?
58:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, 11 and five.
59:00
[SPEAKER_01]: What I thought they would fly off to five games this season?
59:03
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I had them losing maybe three or four.
59:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, and I don't usually like to make predictions, but my feeling was somewhere around 10 to 12 games.
59:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
59:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It's in with what I thought they were going to win the division, though.
59:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I did.
59:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
59:26
[SPEAKER_02]: That was pretty clear that that was, yeah, that was surprising.
59:31
[SPEAKER_02]: But wait till next year.
59:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
59:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Patriots to play a first round team in all the divisions that they have.
59:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well definitely safe or definitely definitely see um yeah I did not have them losing to Miami that way but again sometimes you need a shake up and if like if you're saying that they are one and done teen there's gonna be some shaking up I do believe bring it on you cannot think
1:00:08
[SPEAKER_01]: and expecting a different result.
1:00:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just insanity and it's crazy in something has to change.
1:00:16
[SPEAKER_01]: If the bills go and lose one playoff game, are all done and won.
1:00:26
[SPEAKER_01]: We would have a lot to talk about this off season.
1:00:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you there right now.
1:00:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and that's going to be so much fun.
1:00:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I love you, it's me.
1:00:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I love you too, guys.
1:00:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for always tuning in.
1:00:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Tea time with Robin on the building Buffalo Network.
1:00:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully things will get back to its regular scheduled operation next week.
1:00:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll figure it out.
1:00:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't you worry about it.
1:00:47
[SPEAKER_01]: But like we always say, go, girls.
1:00:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Be sure to have a new year.
1:00:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Happy new year.