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Popping Off: The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Ep 2 · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: I'm Teddy Mellencamp and this is Emily Simpson and you're
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  Speaker 1: listening to popping off.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: I know we were only supposed to watch, you know,
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  Speaker 3: one episode at a time, but couldn't couldn't.
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  Speaker 2: Can't stop, won't stop, had to watch all eight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I had. I watched them all binge right through.
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  Speaker 1: It couldn't stop. So but you know, let me just
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  Speaker 1: say this at first, and let me ask your opinion
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  Speaker 1: on this. Do you feel as if maybe the premise
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  Speaker 1: of the show was a little bit of a bait
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  Speaker 1: and switch, because ultimately it's not really about the swinging part,
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  Speaker 1: but I feel like that was the advertised to get
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  Speaker 1: people to drop people in.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think that's I mean, I think the main
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  Speaker 3: point of why this show is working. And I'm I
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  Speaker 3: saw this somewhere on the world wide Web, so I'm
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  Speaker 3: not fully coming up with this opinion on my own,
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  Speaker 3: but I so just giving credit to where credits do.
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  Speaker 3: I read it, And I was like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 3: this resonated with me. Is when you go to think
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  Speaker 3: about any other reality television show, Yes, it's people maybe
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  Speaker 3: put together for certain reasons, or people knowing each other,
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  Speaker 3: in advance and then they're bringing on friends or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: But this is a group of women who joined something
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  Speaker 3: mom Talk solely because of how many followers they all
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  Speaker 3: had to continue to create clout, So none of them
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  Speaker 3: actually really give two shits about the other people. They
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  Speaker 3: just care about building themselves up, so nobody really cares
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  Speaker 3: about Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Please, please God make me the biggest star. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean wait, I think before every time we do a podcast,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like maybe we should do that. Please God,
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  Speaker 1: make us the biggest podcast ever.
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  Speaker 2: Please God make sure that this is.
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  Speaker 3: You put it into the doctrine that we have the
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  Speaker 3: following things.
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  Speaker 2: But I yes, do.
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  Speaker 3: I think we thought we were going to get more
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  Speaker 3: on the swinging a million percent. But I think the
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  Speaker 3: problem is is that the original women that were involved
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  Speaker 3: allegedly in the swinging are not on this show. Like
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  Speaker 3: when you even go to Jennifer afflex posts and you
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  Speaker 3: see like them auditioning her to be the next girl
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  Speaker 3: on mon Talk, it's because the original parties are no
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  Speaker 3: longer there.
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  Speaker 2: They're divorced.
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  Speaker 3: They're the only like I mean, yes, we see sometimes
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  Speaker 3: Demi or Whitney or even Layla and Macy in the
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  Speaker 3: original mom Talk.
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  Speaker 2: Videos, but Taylor is really the OG. She's the OG
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  Speaker 2: of the SLC.
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  Speaker 1: The OG of the SLC. That's good, But do you
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  Speaker 1: think I just feel like like Hulu maybe just did
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a bait and switch. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying that the show didn't live up to expectations, because
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  Speaker 1: clearly we loved it, We binged it, we watched all
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  Speaker 1: eight episodes at once. I just think maybe there was
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a bait and switch where people
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  Speaker 1: were tuning in thinking they're going to get one thing
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  Speaker 1: and then they just got something totally different. Like I
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  Speaker 1: think the swinging scandal is what gets people to click
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  Speaker 1: on it and watch. But they stay because it's.
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  Speaker 2: Good, because they stay because it's good.
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  Speaker 3: And I think, as you know, clearly it's number one
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  Speaker 3: show on Hulu, so I feel like it's definitely, as
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  Speaker 3: you pointed out, going to get picked up again. So
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  Speaker 3: I think we will start to delve more into their
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  Speaker 3: personal relationships, and you know, without giving things away, if
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  Speaker 3: you haven't mentioned the entire season, and since we're solely
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  Speaker 3: talking about episode two, you know, we're not gonna, you know,
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  Speaker 3: throw away that some of the conversations that were had
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the season, but we start digging
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  Speaker 3: into their personal relationships and their marriages and their life
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  Speaker 3: as the season progresses. So I wouldn't be surprised if
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  Speaker 3: they pick up filming soon and just keep it going.
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  Speaker 3: But before we even get into episode two, I want
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  Speaker 3: to kind of give everybody an idea of what we're
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  Speaker 3: working with on each one of the ladies social media followings. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: So we've got Taylor, who you know, the og who
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  Speaker 3: was the original one that outed the swinging scandal on TikTok.
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  Speaker 3: She has four point two million followers on Instagram. She
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  Speaker 3: has four hundred and sixty four thousand followers. Uh. Then
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  Speaker 3: we've got Mikayla, who we already had on the pod
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  Speaker 3: and I wish we had been able to watch watch
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: That was I was thinking that too. I had so
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  Speaker 1: much like, damn, why couldn't we have watched all eight
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  Speaker 1: episodes and then interviewed her because we just, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we interviewed her before we knew we didn't Yeah, exactly
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  Speaker 1: don't know what you don't know. So Michayla, please come back.
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  Speaker 1: Lots of questions, Mikayla, please come back.
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  Speaker 3: But I was shocked to find out that Mikayla is
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  Speaker 3: the second most on TikTok. She's two point five million
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  Speaker 3: on Instagram, She's two hundred and eighty two thousand and
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  Speaker 3: Something that we never really see on this show, which
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  Speaker 3: is something she gets a lot of traction for on
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  Speaker 3: her TikTok, is that she has chronic She has a
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  Speaker 3: chronic condition with ezema that she really struggles with and
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  Speaker 3: she's been unable to she was unable to leave her
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  Speaker 3: house for a certain amount of times, like you see
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  Speaker 3: her flare ups.
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  Speaker 2: We don't see any of that on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Well, but well, she talks about it a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: There is like a reference. There was a reference to it.
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  Speaker 1: And I do notice that there's a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: when she doesn't have any makeup on. You know, the
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  Speaker 1: other girls are all glammed out and she doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: any makeup. But clearly it's because she's having a flare up,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's probably she doesn't want to put
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  Speaker 1: any makeup on. But I give her, I give her
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  Speaker 1: a lot of props, a lot of credit for just filming,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with a exema flare up and no makeup on.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of housewives wouldn't do that.
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  Speaker 3: No, then we have macy uh TikTok one point four
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  Speaker 3: million Instagram one hundred and eighty thousand. She, I guess,
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  Speaker 3: for lack of a better words, is kind of the
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  Speaker 3: voice of reason of this group.
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  Speaker 1: I guess she's the bridge.
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  Speaker 3: She's the bridge. Yeah, that's a better way to put it.
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  Speaker 3: She's the bridge. The storyline we never hear about from
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  Speaker 3: her on this season that I learned through TikTok, which
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  Speaker 3: I would have appreciated knowing while I was watching the show,
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  Speaker 3: was that her first baby daddy, the one that she
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  Speaker 3: got pregnant with when she was at BYU, and her
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  Speaker 3: like year of being you know, I forget the word,
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  Speaker 3: but like excommunicated from the church or whatever it was.
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  Speaker 3: He died, Yeah, texting her in a car accident. I
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  Speaker 3: can't believe there there's no mention of that on the show.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's so much more shit that we could
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  Speaker 3: have dug they could have dug into.
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  Speaker 1: I was honestly flattery acid if if that's the correct word.
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  Speaker 1: That it did not come up on the show because
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  Speaker 1: I didn't learn about until I saw a TikTok she made.
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  Speaker 1: Did you send me that TikTok? Somebody sent me away.
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  Speaker 3: We've been sending Emily and I have a full time
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  Speaker 3: job of sending each other tiktoks.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, here's the more, here's the more.
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  Speaker 2: Oh shit, but I forgot going back to Mikaela.
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  Speaker 3: Something else that's clearly not talked about throughout the season
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  Speaker 3: is that she, yes, she got pregnant at sixteen, but
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  Speaker 3: her husband he was at twenty two, I believe, So
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  Speaker 3: that is another situation they don't really delve into on
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  Speaker 3: the show.
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  Speaker 2: Then we've got Whitney.
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  Speaker 3: She has two million followers on TikTok. Instagram, she has
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  Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy four thousand. I've seen a lot
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  Speaker 3: of I mean, she's considered the villain of the season.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of what she does is kind of absurd
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  Speaker 3: to me, and even watching her tiktoks, but a big
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  Speaker 3: portion of what I guess online is saying. But what
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  Speaker 3: we haven't heard is that her husband, yes, he had
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  Speaker 3: a porn addiction allegedly, but he dealt with all of
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  Speaker 3: these issues growing up, and a big part of her
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  Speaker 3: discussions have been about why she felt the need to
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  Speaker 3: stay with him to support him through his childhood abuse.
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  Speaker 3: So there's that. So We've got Whitney, then we have Jesse.
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  Speaker 3: She has on TikTok not that great compared to the others.
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  Speaker 3: Two hundred and sixty one thousand on TikTok Instagram, one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and ninety three thousand. She's been in the Tiktoks
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  Speaker 3: for a while, but I'm kind of wondering if they
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  Speaker 3: brought her in solely because they wanted her to do
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  Speaker 3: her extensions.
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  Speaker 1: They were like, eh, I mean, she doesn't have that
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  Speaker 1: big of a following, but she does do extensions, so God,
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  Speaker 1: she does do extensions.
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  Speaker 3: We know that she is divorced, she's married again. They're
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  Speaker 3: the probably the least Mormon of the group at this point,
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  Speaker 3: and there's allegations of why she got a divorce that
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  Speaker 3: does actually play it on the show.
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  Speaker 1: But that's all I really know about her. But then
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  Speaker 1: we get to me, to me, to me, who by
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  Speaker 1: the way, to me, I like, okay, let me just
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  Speaker 1: say this. I'm just gonna say this, and it might
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  Speaker 1: be an unpopular opinion. Taylor does not give me main
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  Speaker 1: character energy to me, does Taylor? I think we have
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  Speaker 1: to remember is pregnant. That is true. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: give her a pass because she's pregnant and I and
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure she was dealing with that and she wasn't
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  Speaker 1: feeling great. But to me, de Me was main character energy,
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  Speaker 1: Like she was like like I felt like she was
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  Speaker 1: more of what everybody is always fighting for, Queen Bee
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  Speaker 1: of this group.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean she was so excited when they said
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  Speaker 3: that maybe she should take over the Queen Bee.
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  Speaker 2: I think Taylor's gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Come and I mean, I we'll get into that in
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  Speaker 3: a second, but hold on four hundred and fifty thousand
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  Speaker 3: point six on TikTok Instagram's one hundred and seventy five thousand.
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  Speaker 3: Her backstory that we didn't get to hear about was
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  Speaker 3: the man that she is married to. Not only did
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  Speaker 3: that affair happen, her husband was married to Angie Harrington.
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  Speaker 3: So Angie Harrington is the girl who was a friend
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  Speaker 3: of on Salt Lake City who to me kind of
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  Speaker 3: looks like Sarah Paulson.
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  Speaker 1: That yeah, well one season, right, one season she was
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  Speaker 1: a one season friend.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was a redhead. I think she came in
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  Speaker 3: as Heather Gay's friend and then they had a falling out.
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  Speaker 3: She had a new husband that was and like created
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  Speaker 3: fake instagrams and shit like that.
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  Speaker 2: But the other part.
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  Speaker 3: That I didn't know, who knows if this is really true,
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  Speaker 3: but I saw it on the on the talk on
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  Speaker 3: the TikTok was that she met her husband to me,
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  Speaker 3: met her husband when she was ten years old.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, but what does that mean? I mean, what they
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  Speaker 1: met at a birthday party or something. Probably they met
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  Speaker 1: at the church at a church party. But they could
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  Speaker 1: have met like innocently. It's not like he was trying
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  Speaker 1: to date her when she was ten.
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  Speaker 3: No, but still that is like bananas when you really
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  Speaker 3: think about it, like, oh, we met when I was
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  Speaker 3: ten and then.
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  Speaker 1: And he was forty.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean even when they showed their kids ages,
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  Speaker 3: you know. But they seem like a happy couple. They
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  Speaker 3: seem really into each other. But I mean, what she
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  Speaker 3: was ten and he was I think.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, is he the husband that they were speculating that
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  Speaker 1: he has a two pay because it's always in a
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  Speaker 1: different place.
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  Speaker 3: The husband Whitney's husband, Oh, Whitney's husband. Oh yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: he's considered like the hot husband.
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  Speaker 1: He is a hot husband. I think he used to
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  Speaker 1: be a quarterback or something, right the NFL. Yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: played in the NFL. Unclear unclear. No, I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 1: about that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh well, I love it. Then we have Jennifer Hole,
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  Speaker 3: who you know. I love that she's the only person
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  Speaker 3: that gets a last name with her age next to
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  Speaker 3: it every time they show it.
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  Speaker 1: Every time, it's like Jen Affleck and Jesse Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And Malayla and blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 3: But then come to find out, not only do I
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  Speaker 3: despise Jen Affleck's husband, but Jen Affleck's husband who is
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  Speaker 3: the actual distant relative of Ben Affleck.
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  Speaker 2: They've never met Ben Affleck.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure they haven't. They're like second cousins twice removed,
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  Speaker 1: and they in Utah, and they're devout Mormons. I doubt
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  Speaker 1: that they're hanging out in the same circle. But then Jen.
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  Speaker 3: Also shared on her TikTok that she was named after
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  Speaker 3: Jennifer Lopez. Jennifer Lopez's name, I guess is Jennifer Lynn,
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  Speaker 3: and so is this Jen. Her name is Jennifer Lynn.
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  Speaker 3: So she is proud to say on her TikTok that
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  Speaker 3: she is now the only Jennifer Lynn af f flack.
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  Speaker 3: Then we've got Layla. She's at one hundred and fifteen
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  Speaker 3: thousand on TikTok.
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  Speaker 1: Layela Laila, come on, get with the program. I'm surprised
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  Speaker 1: they even let you around.
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  Speaker 3: Layelah and then Instagram fifty four point five thousand. I
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  Speaker 3: know the least amount about her, mainly because.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't talk for the first seven episodes.
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  Speaker 2: Because we haven't really gotten much of her.
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  Speaker 3: But she is part of mom talk from the beginning,
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  Speaker 3: like she I see her pregnant, I see it. So
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  Speaker 3: she's she's been a part of this. But she's also
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  Speaker 3: the youngest. But they all seem to pretty much like her.
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  Speaker 3: But she's never had an orgasm. I mean, things have
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  Speaker 3: been things have been a little rough for Layla, but
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  Speaker 3: she's single now and ready to mingle. Yeah, do you
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  Speaker 3: want to do you want to break down the husbands
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  Speaker 3: before we get into this episode two, let's.
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  Speaker 1: Break down the husband's all right, Dakota is a boyfriend,
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  Speaker 1: not a husband of Ta. They have one child together,
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  Speaker 1: ever true, as we see her pregnant on this season.
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  Speaker 1: Dakota is a real estate agent and owns a tiling
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  Speaker 1: company called Basin Tiling.
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  Speaker 3: He also is allegedly a recovered addict, which I think
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  Speaker 3: they said from ventanal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what it was. Yeah, that's why
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  Speaker 1: he has such a problem with her drinking. I guess
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  Speaker 1: was that the rationale.
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  Speaker 3: I have to also say sometimes his eyes concerned me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not like.
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  Speaker 3: Saying you mean like they were a little little It's
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  Speaker 3: this is a very toxic relationship. Very I am not
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  Speaker 3: a doctor, but this relationship does not seem great. He
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  Speaker 3: really wants to marry her. She does not want to.
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  Speaker 3: At least she has learned a lot. Here's the thing
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  Speaker 3: gotta say it. If I was going to pick a
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  Speaker 3: friend from I mean, looking at her past, I never
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  Speaker 3: would have thought Taylor would want to be one of
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  Speaker 3: the people that had been like, that's the girl I
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  Speaker 3: want to be friends with.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's kind of one of my favorites. Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: you mean, out of the cast, if you had to
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  Speaker 1: hang out with one of them, you would pick Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: I think Taylor and Demi. I would hang out with
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  Speaker 1: Whitney because she's diabolical. Oh, like, I find her mind intriguing.
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  Speaker 1: She's diabolical.
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  Speaker 2: Well, now can you get into Connor please and explain.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. Connor is the husband to Whitney. Whitney and Connor
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  Speaker 1: share two children together, Sedona and Liam, and she is
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  Speaker 1: expecting her third child, Connor, works for Meta, which owns
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: and operates Instagram, Facebook, WhatsApp, et cetera, which is right there.
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  Speaker 1: They were actually building the building when I left Utah.
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  Speaker 3: So he looks different in every episode. Just it's like
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  Speaker 3: so like I feel like when they first walked into
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: the house, when they move back from why didn't he
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: have bleach blonde hair and it was long or something?
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  Speaker 3: And then the next scene it wasn't long, and then
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  Speaker 3: the next scene it wasn't blonde, And then and then
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  Speaker 3: the next scene he didn't have a mustache, and then
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  Speaker 3: the next one he did.
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  Speaker 1: Like he's in the witness protection program.
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  Speaker 2: Like he is ever changing.
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  Speaker 3: And listen, I know this is a touchy subject, especially
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  Speaker 3: because you know your best friend gets a lot of
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  Speaker 3: heat for this.
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  Speaker 2: But Whitney's outfit choices a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Are we talking about Gina?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, okay, I I have Gina has way better style.
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  Speaker 1: This Whitney has no style. She just finds saying that
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  Speaker 1: Gina has no style. I'm just saying, finds a frock.
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  Speaker 4: A peasant frock, and puts it on and like and
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  Speaker 4: super glues lace onto it or something.
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  Speaker 3: He's giving like amish, Like once she said she wanted
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  Speaker 3: to move it to the farm. Later episodes, I was like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my gosh, okay. But their other backstory is that
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  Speaker 3: he was on tender.
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  Speaker 2: That's why they moved to Hawaii.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently when things get rough with he makes these dramatic changes.
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  Speaker 1: But then apparently she came back.
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  Speaker 3: But she throughout this season, you see she thinks that
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  Speaker 3: mom Talk will not actually be able to succeed without her.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about the show. I'm talking about
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  Speaker 3: the TikTok. But one thing Emily and I are both
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  Speaker 3: very proud of.
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  Speaker 1: Is what you're gonna say.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we both turned down that dil do. We did
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  Speaker 3: post and Whitney did not.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, I just there there is just no
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  Speaker 1: amount of money that I would do that. Shane even
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  Speaker 1: asked me because he was watching that scene. He came
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: into the bedroom when I was watching it, and he goes,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: is there any amount of money that you would do
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: that for? And I was like it would have to
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: be millions, Like there's this, I there's this. I can't
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: But also I want to check now that I've seen
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: all of their following numbers, like when they say twenty
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: thousand I'm wondering if they mean for multi old post
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: or like that's a one post TikTok that much more profitable,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: profitable than Instagram.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know because I don't have a TikTok. And
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: now I'm thinking, should I should I get my friends
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: together and make an old mom talk.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Let's let's get a Graham talk going?
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Should I get like a golden golden talk started?
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: My gosh, Then we've got Zach Affleck. He's the husband
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: of jen They have two children, a daughter Nora a
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: son Lucas. In July, Jennifer announced on Instagram that Zach
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: was accepted into medical school. She is the breadwinner and
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: she is going to be paying for his med school
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: because he has gambled away the money allegedly that his
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: parents gave him for med school when his parents were
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: already doctors. Please, for the love of God, do not
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: let me go to this man as my physician.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: And ten years from now when he has his license.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Next husband is Brett. He's a second husband to Demi.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: He is forty six, she is twenty nine. They each
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: have children from previous relationships. Brett is currently a managing
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: partner at Armstrong consulting group. He was previously a quarterback
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: for the Oakland Raiders from three to five. I wonder
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: if that.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Means he was actually at the playing quarterback or he
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: was like the second string quarterback.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, not that it really matters, but it does,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I mean it does. Yeah.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Then we've got Jordan, who is married to Jesse. Second
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: husband to Jesse. They share a blended family of three kids.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Jordan is a solar manager at Rise Energy.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: That's I mean. I don't have a ton to say
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: about them, which is not great. Now. Not a lot
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: to say about Jacob either. I think I only saw
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: him pop up briefly. He's a second husband to Macy Neelye. Mason.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Met Jacob while she was raising her son Hudson as
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: a single parent following the death of his father Eric.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: They were married in twenty eighteen and share a daughter, Harlowe.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Jacob is a sales and finance consultant at AO two
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Management in Utah.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: And then we've got Jace, who's the husband to Mikayla Matthews.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Michala met Jace when she was sixteen. They have three
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: children together, Beckham, Haven and Tommy. Jace was employed as
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: a project manager at Waffle, Loove and Jah. However, michaela
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: revealed that he was fired due to this show's release.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: I love that he's fired because of the show, but
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: not because he was twenty one when he got his
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: sixteen year old girlfriend pregnant.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: No, that's fine, that's fine, that's acceptable.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Then Laylah Taylor, twenty three divorce shares two sons of
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: their ex husband. Taylor told Today that she and her
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: ex husband agreed that their sons would not appre appear
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: on screen in season one of the show.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, can I say, can you imagine being twenty three
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: divorced and with two kids? What were you doing at
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: twenty three? I mean I was like just out of college,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: still dumb, and.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I mean I think I was potentially at twenty four
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: getting my first divorce but no kids.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Like, can you imagine? Can you imagine to have been
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: getting divorced at that age and have two children? Yeah?
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Because also in my first divorce, we had nothing Like
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: I had my neighbor do the divorce for me because
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: she like went to like one year of law school
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: and she was able to figure it out.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: My first divorce I did myself because we had no
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: kids and no ascess. It was so easy.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I think the only thing that we had
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: to separate was like some of our wedding gifts because
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: we made it over a year of being married. Yeah,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: so then you don't have to return them. But there
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: was like our china.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I think it gets it.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I was like, you can have the mugs, I'll take
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: the plates.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Like, but that's why Shane and I don't get divorced now,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: because it's just way too complicated. It's a lot of things.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: It would be a lot, so we're just like that's
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: just too much.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Well, now we're on to episode two. It's eleven months
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: after Taylor's arrest. Taylor calls it the worst night of
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: her life. She was charged with aggravated assault and given
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: three years of probation, plus she is pregnant again after
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: being arrested. She and Dakota never actually broke up. They
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: both wanted this baby, even though she acknowledges it's not
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: the smartest decision.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Do you think?
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: So?
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I have a question about LDS. Are you allowed to
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: be on birth control?
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah? You are? I think you're wrong. No, I don't
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: think so, can you?
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: No?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I think it's isn't it. Yeah, I don't think you
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: can be on Shane.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I really don't think you can be on birth. I'm
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: gonna text him, text him and get back to me
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: on that. But like Taylor, clearly we're watching because of
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: you and you're not so smart decisions. But like, keep
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: on keeping on because it's we're enjoying it.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Google says, Okay.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: But let me ask you a question. Don't you find
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: it irresponsible that she got pregnant once, had a miscarriage,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: but then got pregnant again even though she knows the
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: relationship isn't great, she doesn't want to marry him, and
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: she knows it's not a smart decision.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Well, I think what we're seeing here is clearly and
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: you know now I've gone back years and watched all
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: of her tiktoks with Tate, her first husband, and after
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: watching her relationship with her mother, I think she like
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: wants love, but there's so much guilt and anxiety and
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: all of these things surrounding the things that she's done
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: and how she feels about herself that in the moments
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: and oftentimes when you're in a very toxic relationship, the
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: good is so good, you think, oh, this is going
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: to be great, right, and then the bad is so bad.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: It's like, there's no way you can imagine going another day.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: That you're saying she got pregnant during one of those
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: good is good Yeah.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the highs. Then Macey, Michaela, and Whitney
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: are together at a coffee slash tea shop. Whitney was
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: shocked to hear about Taylor's pregnancy, and Macy says Taylor
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: thinks with her vagina. They were all invited to Taylor's
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: baby shower, but Whitney wants to get back to what
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: mom talk was like before the scandal and arrests happened. Apparently,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: brand deals have gone down since Taylor's arrest, and Macy
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: suggests that someone has to step up to keep the
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: group going.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, I have a question when she talks about brand deals,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: does that mean brand deals individually or do you think
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: they get group brand deals because they make so much
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: content together. Do they ever do brand deals as a group?
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming they must.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I mean at least those jumps, those sweatsuits that they
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: all wear, because they have them in like every color
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: with their names on them. Yeah, while they're doing these dances.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: It also like, as he launched these videos, I can't
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: even imagine if I was on mom Talk because I'd
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: be one of the bad dancer ones.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: It would be in the back.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I would be like the Macy that's like in charge
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: of like just doing the heart like while the other
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: ones can like do all the moves and I'm like,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: oh shit, but like some of them are quite good
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: at it. But Whitney's saying she wants it to be
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: back to the original mom Talk. I'm like, what was
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: the original mom Talk like before the scandal?
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Do they just they just made content together, right,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: like fun?
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: It's supposedly women empowerment, but like at this point, we're
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: not seeing many women empowered other than empowered to pay
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: for their husbands.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know if that's true though. When
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: they say they're all the they all raise their hands
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: when they said who's the breadwinner? So you're gonna tell
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: me that Brett, the guy that's like a consultant or whatever,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Like she's making more money than he does.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Probably, and I mean Brett's forty six, right, So that's
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: You've had a long time to get your act together.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: But also, like Whitney, if this group didn't exist and
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: you want to get it back, then that would mean
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: no television show for you to bug us on, and
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: I would be so sad without that.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Then we see Taylor with her mom, Leanne. They're going
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: shopping for baby necessities. Leanne has a hard time talking
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: to her daughter about her probation, saying Taylor's aged her
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: ten years. Did Coda's bring up the idea of marriage frequently?
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Taylor's not sure if she's ready for it. She doesn't
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: want to get hurt again, and in her confessional she
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: breaks down, saying she doesn't feel like she deserves the
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: happy ending that Dakota is trying to give her. I'm
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: sorry to tell you this, Taylor. He's not going to
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: give you a happy ending.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: No, he doesn't have it, and I'm toxic tailor.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: But also I feel like Taylor's saying, Mom, don't buy
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: me anything, because most likely I'm going to get it
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: all for free to promote on the tiktoks. So we
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: don't need to be buying this. We're going to promote
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: it on the top. So we'll talk. Let's not spend
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: the forty four dollars on the baby trash can.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you my toxic trait is when I
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: watch this show, I think I'm the same age as
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: these women, and then I realize that I'm probably older
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: than Leanne.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I'm sure we're older than Leanne.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Don't you watch it if you think like I feel
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: like I could just fit right into this group.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: And then I'm like, no, I am older than Leanne.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Well, I did send you a text message, and I
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: just prefaced it just so you guys know. I'm really
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: pissed to you, Emily, And she's like why, And I said,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: because you have the opportunity by being married to Shane
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: who is LDS, to be on this show. And Emily
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: is like, you know what, You're right, like I do,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: and I feel like I dropped this opportunity.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Neither of us pointing out that nobody forty eight.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: I forgot about that part that I'm old enough to
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: be everyone's mother.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: In the In this community, you'd be on your sixteenth
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: marriage forty four kid exactly.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, Wait, Shane texted me about birth control. Do you
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: want to hear it? Yeah? Oh? Also, I have zero
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: TikTok followers. Okay, I asked him, can you be on
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: birth control if you're LDS? Shane said yes, that's a
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: private matter for married couples to decide themselves. The only
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: guidelines I've ever read on the church counseling about family
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and having children is couples should have as many children
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: as they can provide for financially, emotionally, and spiritually, but
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: that it is a decision for the couples to make
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: themselves and not others.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: So I have a question for you, just why we're
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: in the talk of LDS. How does the church feel
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: about the fact that you are not LDS.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I never asked him. Should I write
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: a letter?
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Or is there ever a moment that Shane in your
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: marriage was like, come give this a try.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: No, I will tell you. I'll give you a little background.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Before Shane and I got married, there were two deal breakers.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: The one the first one was I'll marry you, but
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: do you expect me to convert to LDS? And he
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: said no. And the other one was do you want
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: to have more kids? Because I had no kid, I
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: had no children, And he said, yes, I want more kids.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: So those were my two deal breakers. I've never been
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: pressured by Shane to convert. I go to church with
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: him occasionally sometimes I go a lot of times I don't.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: But as far as the church, I do know when
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: we lived in Utah, the missionaries would always visit my
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: house because I was like the only non LDS person
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: probably in like one hundred mile radius, so they were
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: always at my house.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: But do you think there's less pressure because Shane's parents.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Are not LDS.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of what we're seeing as
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: these parties progress is that like these parents are putting
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: these pressure on these oh yeahs women like and because
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: he did that on his own.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's a different there is. I would say,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: like when people say to me like, oh, your a
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: husband's in a cult or something like that, I'm like you,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: my life is so normal. There is nothing weird about
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: anything in our life. And you're right, his parents aren't LDS.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: His mom, if she was religious, would be Muslim. She
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: would be Muslim if she practiced a religion. And you know,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: his dad is more of just like he's like very Buddhists,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: you know, he's very zen. So I do think that
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: the LDS factor within our relationship is very small it's
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: basically just Shane and the kids go every once in
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a while, and I go occasionally, so it's not a
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: huge part of our lives.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Right The mom Taught girls minus Taylor are filming content
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: at Macy's house. In this content video, they all pretend
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: to pray, Please Lord, make me the biggest star the
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: world has ever known. Jen Is remind the girls that
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: they need to make videos so they can pay the bills.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Then they all talk about the weirdest brand deals. You know,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: it's twenty thousand to promote sex toys, but the Mormon
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: religion is very conservative, so it's a risk. And then
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Layla and Demi are all for it. Macy doesn't think
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: they're paying her enough. Meanwhile, Jin says she would never
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: promote a sex brand. Jen, You'd never be allowed. Let's
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: be clear.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't even step foot within, you know, anywhere
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: that has anything to do. Sorry, this is what happens
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: when I watch all eight episodes.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Well then, but by the way, speaking of Jin, can
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: you please fix that hair in the back of your
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: head right now that's sticking out?
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Because did you notice?
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Sorry? Jin, I was very confused because everybody is very
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: well quaffed this entire season, and unless Jin is doing
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: a TikTok video, we've got extension showing we've got we
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: barely got our hair washed. I'm like, she looks like
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: me on the freaking pod. I'm like, what is happening.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: That's because she has to serve her husband at all times.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: She doesn't have time, zero hair, just him sandwiches, and
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I mean she's she's.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Just paying bills, taking care of the kids and Zach,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: and she doesn't have time for a shower. But you
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: notice that every time they're filming, and there are people,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: there are housewives that do this too, when like I'd
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: be on Beverly Hills and I would come and I'd
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: be looking a mess. That are always like constantly like
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: touching your hair, like fixing your or being like that.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Like she is the least of like the conscious of
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: exactly what her appearance is, I think, which is refreshing,
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: which is actually being a mom, which is who we
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: all are. But I love that they're all noticing it
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: the entire time. But I am calling bullshit on twenty
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars post on Insta when you have two hundred
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: and seventy four thousand followers.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Did you look at her Instagram and see did she
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: posts anything about sex toy? She she did. It's there,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: it's there. So is.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: One of her premiere dresses, the red with the cutouts
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: and the and on the swing with the h.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: It was a lot. That was a lot.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: That was one of my favorite outfits of the season.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: And it wasn't even during it. Then Demi reminds the
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: girls that because there's such a lack of knowledge around sex,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: a lot of women don't even have an orgasm. Laila
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: raises her hand immediately, saying she never has. She got
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: married at nineteen and was married for three years, so
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: she hasn't had time to discover herself. Laylah went to
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: high school that was heavily populated with Mormons, and she
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: was baptized at sixteen years old. And then everyone jokes
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: that Jen is a porn star for her husband. Macy
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: reminds her they've all seen the nudes.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, Jen Jen Affleck. Yes, well maybe that's why
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: her hair is always a mess. Yeah, she's got I mean,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: she doesn't have time. She's got to make him chicken
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: pie and sex with him.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Come and sending videos of herself.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Wait was the photo that she showed everybody and they
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: said that was like a frontal? Was that like a
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: vagina shot?
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming it must be naked photos. Then Demi was
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: inspired by Jen's nudes, so she decided to take nudes
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: for her husband as well. Then she proceeds to show
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: them to the entire crew.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Oh it was to me that had the photos that
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: they brought out and showed.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: But also Demi's nude, this entire not nude, but she
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: has just her bra and ninety percent of like the episodes.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: I know, I know she's like, oh, you guys are early,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: but also I'm like, if you're going to show your
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: bra off, it shouldn't be a nude one all the time.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Like at least like getting stacy.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like get some sexy bras, like those are my bras?
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Like my when you're not going to see what I
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: have on underneath bras? Those aren't my pull my shirt
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: down every time to get miked bras. Then Taylor's parents,
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Leanne and Jeremy are visiting our house and Taylor breaks
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: the news that.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Dakota is moving in.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Uh and the church teaches that you should not live
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: with a partner outside of marriage, so her parents are
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: not supportive of this decision, the parents being more upset
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: about this man moving in than being pregnant.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, I know, they're like, it's fine if you want
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: to have children together, but you can't live together.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: But do you think it's because they don't want one?
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: They already know that they've been arrested, that she's been
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: arrested two. They know that most likely she's going to
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: be paying for their life.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I we never.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Heard what Dakota does for a living until we got
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: on the pod today. But I am confused, Like, okay, baby, fine,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: moving in? Absolutely not.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It's not living together before marriage.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Did you live with Shane before marriage? No, because we
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: got married like immediately. We just went to the courthouse
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: and got married and then had a big wedding later.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, I did live with Edwin before getting married, and
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I do actually recommend living with your person before getting
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: married if you can.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I mean I think we did, like briefly. It was
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: very brief because we got married really quickly. But we
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: just got married really quickly for tax purposes. He's not sure.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: He's like, if I could file married and joint. It
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: would really save on taxes, so let's.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Figure this shit out. Then Dakota shows up while Leanne
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: and Jeremy are there. He starts bringing in his boxes,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: and of course the parents don't offer to help, but
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: they let their pregnant daughter carry them in. Dakota's boxes
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: are labeled things like Dakota's cool shit and here I come.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Jeremy definitely doesn't take it easy on him. He calls
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: out Dakota for knocking up his daughter and moving in before.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Mary's he's a stepdad though, right, that's not her real dad,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: that's her stepdad. I don't know if Leanne is still
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: married from the get No, I think that's the stepdad.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, then Taylor and Dakota say that their values
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: and plans really align with one another, and I'm very
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: confused by this.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Was it values that threw you off? Yeah?
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: The values and then for example they both want to
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: marry someone LDS so they could go to church and
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: raise their family with those values. But to me, Dakota
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: moving in with one simple box is full of red flags.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Like it just makes me love this show. But like
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: he didn't even need he didn't even need a moving.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Vanni just had like his four boxes that he probably
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: brought from Jenna's house or whatever.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, I just need to get buy a
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: box of shit, of cool shit from your house and
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: move it over to Taylor's, which is.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Like his fortnight.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, his rooms cube.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: A couple fenties. Yeah, include going, he's.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Got a hoodie, a pair of pants, a room excube,
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: and his PlayStations.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Then Macey and Taylor are shopping for Taylor's upcoming baby shower.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Taylor admits she's afraid to see all the girls again.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Macy gives her some reassurance, saying she wanted to reach
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: out to Taylor more than ever after the rest and
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Macy's concerned that Dakota never takes accountability for his actions.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: She witnessed Dakota called Taylor and effing slut. When her
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: ex husband showed up to an event where the girls
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: were at two weeks before Taylor got pregnant. She called Macy,
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: telling her she wanted out of the relationship.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Pretty much.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Macy just flat out tells Taylor that she does not
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: like Dakota.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: You know what, neither do I.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: And then, although a Taylor appreciates Macy's blutoness.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: It's hard for her to hear and accept this.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Then Whitney at her mom's house with her younger sister Lexi.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: They get into the vibrater conversation and then they get
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: into the sex talk where the mom kind of like
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: where she shares her first sexual experience as a horror movie.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: I was like, well, it's because your husband doesn't want
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: to be having sex.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Exactly as to be the bearer of bad news. He
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: has a Jason mask on.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: But they didn't have sex, said in high school. But
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: you know what, neither.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Did I no sex I did, I mean not that
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I can remember.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, if we did, it was like a one
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: off class.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: But like I still knew that there was like supposed
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: to be pleasure at some point.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, when we lived in Utah, Shane's daughters
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: had there was an opportunity for sex ad at their school,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: so I know they have it in the public schools
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: in Utah.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: But you know, her mom says she feels guilty that
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: she didn't have those conversations. I don't know if she's guilty,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: but she said, I wish I would have had more
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: of a conversation with you, And then it made me wonder, like, Whitney,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: has your mom had an orgasm? She should ask maybe
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: if she used one of the vibrators from the gram.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, she should give her mom a vibrator for Christmas.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: But I also don't need to see Whitney's mom making
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: dry biscuits while Whitney's talking about promoting dil dos.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I don't need to see all the baking during No, No, No,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: did you?
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't even really notice that she was baking. I mean.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: No, I don't know if it's baking or making. I've
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: never made a biscuit.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I've never well, I did because it's on the episode
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: of Orange John either I saw there's some biscuit making.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Then we see Taylor and Dakota on a date. He
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: asked if Macey was talking shit when she saw her,
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: and she was, like she always does. He's convinced she
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: doesn't like him and it's just being petty about it.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Taylor defends Macy, saying she's the only one she's really
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: confided in. At this point, I'm still stuck whatever this
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Macy situation is. Macy, I think is just trying to
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: be a good friend to Taylor. Then Whitney and Layla.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Are in the salt cave. I've never heard of a
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: salt cave that was new to me.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Well with two children too, Yeah, I like how they
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: kept running around and like touching the alarms and stuff,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: and Whitney was unaware. Whitney doesn't want to promote the
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: fake friendships are portraying online. But I'm like you already
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: that's actually what Mom Talk was, So.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, and you want to and you want it to
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: be back to its original version, and you want to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: be the queen Bee of it. So what are you
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: talking about? Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: And then Layla's confessional, she says this is typical Whitney.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: She'll avoid someone she has tension with rather than talk
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: to them and solve it.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Whitney.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Layla thinks it's important that everyone in Mom Talks stays
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: strong and united. But I do want to point out
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: that a lot of the tiktoks they show us in
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: between scenes have Macy in the middle. Yeah, Macy is
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: in the middle a lot. Yeah, Macy's in the middle.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Then it's the day of the Taylor's baby shower. All
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: the girls from Mom Talk besides Whitney show up. They
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: seem really supportive of Taylor and would like to join
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: them and mom talk again. Macy's not a fan of Dakota.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: We know Whitney didn't give Taylor a heads up that
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: she wasn't coming to the shower, and obviously Taylor noticed
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: she wasn't there.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: You know who else noticed? Leanne just the best I know.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Wait, don't have my mom call you and you piss
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: me off about something.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I can't wait either. That will be fun, Hi, Emily,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: it's please have your dad call.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: But then Whitney tells her it's a conversation she needs
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: to have with Taylor, not her, which we doubt ever
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: really happened. Right, but Taylor's mom immediately calling Whitney tells
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: me everything I need to know about why Taylor is
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: the way she is and why we see the things
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: that we say.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Leanne know. Leanne needs to do something about those hair extensions, Leanne,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: They're they're they're giving like Alexis Bellino. Extensions is what
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: it's doing. It's like me, your hair, your real hair
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: isn't that long, but then you get twenty four inch
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: like extensions.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Leanne is as bummed as us that she's not a
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: part of mom Talk.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: She's trying, she's given her best.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, well we loved it. It was a
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: little piece of heaven. Thank you so much mom Talk
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: for all of this enjoyment. Keep tuning in to Popping
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Off or we will give you, guys, all of our
• 44:13
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• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Thanks guys for listening.