Latest / Sleepy Facts About History / Who Counts as the People in a Democracy? - From Athenian Assembly to Modern Representation | Sleepy Facts About History
Transcript
- 0:04Welcome to Sleepy Facts About History. Most of
- 0:13us were taught a simple story. Democracy was
- 0:16invented in ancient Athens, steadily improved
- 0:18over the centuries, and became the system we
- 0:21know today. But the historical record tells a
- 0:24much more complicated tale. For centuries, the
- 0:28word democracy was not an aspiration, but an
- 0:31insult, associated with mob rule and instability.
- 0:35This episode traces the contested evolution of
- 0:38popular power, from the direct participation
- 0:41of Athenian citizens to the mixed constitution
- 0:44of the Roman Republic, and into the deliberate
- 0:47creation of representative government during
- 0:50the American and French revolutions. I kept returning
- 0:54to one central question while working on this
- 0:57episode. How did a term once used to criticize
- 1:00the poor masses become the dominant political
- 1:02ideal of the modern world? Beyonce is not a straight
- 1:06line of inheritance. It's a series of arguments,
- 1:10institutional experiments, and hard -fought struggles
- 1:13by the people who were originally excluded from
- 1:17political life. From the Chartist movement and
- 1:20the Seneca Falls Convention to anti -colonial
- 1:23independence movements, ordinary people forced
- 1:26a constant redefinition of who counts as the
- 1:29people entitled to rule. Understanding this history
- 1:33does not diminish democracy. Instead, it makes
- 1:37the ongoing argument about self -rule more serious
- 1:40and honest. It reminds us that the institutions
- 1:43we call democratic are the products of specific
- 1:46human choices, and that the future of political
- 1:50participation will depend on the same difficult
- 1:52work of deciding who gets a voice and on what
- 1:55terms. The word democracy was once an insult,
- 2:02not an aspiration. and the people who built the
- 2:06institutions we now call democratic would not
- 2:09have recognized their own work by that name.
- 2:12What we are tracing is not the fulfillment of
- 2:14an ancient promise. It is a long contested argument
- 2:18over who gets to rule and what that rule should
- 2:22mean. Most of us were taught a simple story.
- 2:26Democracy was invented in ancient Athens, where
- 2:30citizens gathered in assembly, debated in the
- 2:32open air, and voted directly on the affairs of
- 2:35the city the idea then traveled through time
- 2:38improved upon here and there until it became
- 2:41the system we know today elections parliaments
- 2:45constitutions universal suffrage the present
- 2:48in this telling is the natural fulfillment of
- 2:51the ancient promise but the story does not hold
- 2:55up many of the institutions we now call democratic
- 2:59were not described that way by the people who
- 3:02created them The word democracy itself was often
- 3:06an insult, not an aspiration, and the path from
- 3:10ancient Athens to modern capitals was not a straight
- 3:13line of inheritance. It was a series of arguments,
- 3:17experiments, reversals and struggles over who
- 3:21could claim the power to rule. What we are examining
- 3:24is not one fixed system exported unchanged across
- 3:28millennia. can authorize, limit, replace, and
- 3:36participate in political power. To understand
- 3:40this, we need to begin where the word itself
- 3:43began. In the Greek city -states of the 5th and
- 3:464th centuries BCE, particularly Athens, the Athenian
- 3:52system was direct and participatory. Citizens
- 3:56did not elect representatives to make decisions
- 3:58for them. They made decisions themselves. Several
- 4:03thousand adult male citizens would gather on
- 4:06the pin, where they could see the agora below
- 4:10and the sacred rock above. They met at dawn.
- 4:14According to later comic accounts, a red painted
- 4:18rope was sometimes used to herd stragglers toward
- 4:22the assembly. Once gathered, they debated war
- 4:25and peace, alliances, public finance, and the
- 4:29conduct of officials. They voted by raising their
- 4:33hands. For many officers, they selected officials
- 4:36not by election but by sortition, by lot, using
- 4:40stone machines called claritaria with slots for
- 4:43bronze tickets. The assumption was that ordinary
- 4:46citizens were competent to govern, and that chance
- 4:50was preferable to the concentration of power
- 4:52in the hands of a few. But this democracy was
- 4:56narrow. The citizen body excluded women, enslaved
- 5:00people, and resident foreigners called Metics.
- 5:04Women were citizens for religious and reproductive
- 5:06purposes, but not for political participation.
- 5:10Enslaved people, who may have comprised a substantial
- 5:13portion of the population, perhaps a third by
- 5:16some estimates, were property. Metics, though
- 5:20often wealthy and economically essential, could
- 5:23not vote or hold office. The democracy was direct.
- 5:28But it was direct rule by a privileged minority,
- 5:30not by the population as a whole. Nor was it
- 5:34universally admired. Many of the writers we now
- 5:38read as foundational, Plato, Aristotle, Thucydides,
- 5:43were critical of democracy. In his politics,
- 5:47Aristotle classified governments by who ruled
- 5:49and in whose interest. Democracy, he argued,
- 5:53was ruled by the poor in their own interest.
- 5:57just as oligarchy was ruled by the wealthy in
- 5:59theirs. He associated democracy with demagoguery,
- 6:04the manipulation of the masses by skilled speakers,
- 6:07and with instability. Thucydides, in his History
- 6:12of the Peloponnesian War, gave Pericles a famous
- 6:15funeral oration praising Athenian openness and
- 6:19civic equality, but he also described the Corserian
- 6:22Civil War. where democratic and oligarchic factions
- 6:26murdered each other with escalating brutality
- 6:28as evidence of democracy's capacity for self
- 6:32-destruction the greek word democratia meaning
- 6:36power of the people was used by its critics as
- 6:39much as by its defenders it was not a neutral
- 6:43or honorific term the athenian experiment lasted
- 6:47roughly two centuries from the reforms of clisthenes
- 6:51in 508 bce through periods of overthrow and restoration
- 6:55until the macedonian conquest in 322 bce it was
- 7:01real it was consequential and it was specific
- 7:04it was not a template for all future politics
- 7:08and in the ancient world it was not the only
- 7:12model the romans developed something different
- 7:15the roman republic which endured from roughly
- 7:19509 to 27 bce was not a democracy in the Athenian
- 7:24sense. It was a mixed constitution. Power was
- 7:30divided among consuls, who held executive authority,
- 7:34the Senate, an aristocratic body of former officeholders,
- 7:38and various popular assemblies, which could elect
- 7:42officials and pass laws. The tribunes of the
- 7:46plebs, created after plebeian secession, could
- 7:49veto measures harmful to common citizens. This
- 7:53balance, monarchical, aristocratic and popular
- 7:57elements combined, was praised by Roman writers,
- 8:01most notably Cicero in his dialogue De Republica.
- 8:05Cicero admired the Roman system precisely because
- 8:09it was not a pure democracy. He believed that
- 8:12unmixed democracy led to mob rule. that unmixed
- 8:16aristocracy led to oligarchic selfishness, and
- 8:19that monarchy risked tyranny. The Roman answer
- 8:23was distribution and balance, not direct popular
- 8:26rule. This Roman model proved enormously influential.
- 8:31When Republican thought revived in Renaissance
- 8:34Italy, in writers like Machiavelli and Ghiardini,
- 8:38it was the Roman mixed constitution they studied,
- 8:41not Athenian direct democracy. Machiavelli. in
- 8:46his Discourses on Livy, praised civic virtue
- 8:49and popular participation in defense of the republic.
- 8:52But he was not advocating for assembled citizens
- 8:55to decide every matter by majority vote. He was
- 8:59interested in how a republic could be stable
- 9:01and vigorous, how it could avoid corruption and
- 9:04conquest. Similarly, in early modern England,
- 9:08Thinkers like James Harrington and Algernon Sidney
- 9:11drew on Roman and Renaissance republicanism to
- 9:14argue for mixed government and the rule of law,
- 9:17not for democracy as such. For centuries, in
- 9:21fact, the word democracy largely disappeared
- 9:24from respectable political vocabulary in Europe.
- 9:27It was associated with disorder, with the mob,
- 9:30with the chaos of the English Civil War, and
- 9:34the radical phases of the French Wars of Religion.
- 9:37When early modern writers discussed good government,
- 9:40they discussed monarchy, aristocracy, mixed constitutions,
- 9:45or republics. They did not advocate for democracy.
- 9:49The word had not yet been rehabilitated. This
- 9:54matters because it helps us understand what happened
- 9:56next. When the revolutions of the 18th century
- 10:00created new political forms, their architects
- 10:03did not see themselves as completing an ancient
- 10:06democratic project. They saw themselves as doing
- 10:09something different, and they said so explicitly.
- 10:13The American, French, and Haitian revolutions
- 10:15of the late 18th century were transformative
- 10:18events, but they were not simply continuations
- 10:22of Athenian democracy. They invented something
- 10:25new, representative government on a large scale,
- 10:28designed for territories far larger than a single
- 10:31city -state. In Philadelphia in 1787, the delegates
- 10:37to the Constitutional Convention designed a system
- 10:40that they called a republic, not a democracy.
- 10:43James Madison, writing in Federalist No. 10,
- 10:47made the distinction with precision. A pure democracy,
- 10:51he wrote, was a society consisting of a small
- 10:54number of citizens who assemble and administer
- 10:57the government in person. A republic, by contrast,
- 11:01was a government in which the scheme of representation
- 11:04takes place. The difference was not merely semantic.
- 11:09Madison believed that representation would refine
- 11:12and enlarge the public views by passing them
- 11:15through the medium of a chosen body of citizens.
- 11:18The representative would be wiser, more deliberative,
- 11:22less susceptible to sudden passion than the assembled
- 11:26multitude. The system was designed to filter
- 11:29and elevate public opinion, not to transmit it
- 11:32directly. This was a deliberate departure from
- 11:36ancient democracy, not its fulfillment. The American
- 11:40founders knew their classical history. They knew
- 11:43that Athens had been unstable, that it had been
- 11:46defeated by oligarchic Sparta, that it had executed
- 11:49Socrates. They did not want to replicate it.
- 11:54They wanted to create something that could govern
- 11:57a continental territory. protect property and
- 12:00prevent the mischiefs of faction that madison
- 12:03believed had destroyed earlier republics the
- 12:06result was a system of separated powers checks
- 12:09and balances and indirect election with suffrage
- 12:13restricted in most states to white male property
- 12:16owners it was innovative influential and exclusive
- 12:20the french revolution introduced a different
- 12:23language that of popular sovereignty The Declaration
- 12:27of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen in 1789
- 12:31declared that No individual or group could exercise
- 12:39authority that did not derive from the nation
- 12:41as a whole. But the Declaration did not use the
- 12:45word democracy. The revolutionaries debated whether
- 12:48France should be a constitutional monarchy, a
- 12:50republic, or something else. When they established
- 12:54a republic in 1792, It was a representative system
- 12:58with property qualifications for voters, not
- 13:01a direct democracy. The Jacobin phase brought
- 13:04more radical popular participation through the
- 13:07activism of working -cast Parisians known as
- 13:10sans -culottes and through local surveillance
- 13:13committees. But this was followed by the terror,
- 13:16a reaction against it, and eventually Napoleon's
- 13:20empire. The French Revolution raised the principle
- 13:23of popular sovereignty more powerfully than any
- 13:26previous event, but it struggled to institutionalize
- 13:30it in stable form. The Haitian Revolution, often
- 13:34marginalized in conventional accounts, posed
- 13:38an even more radical question. Beginning in 1791,
- 13:42enslaved people in the French colony of Saint
- 13:45-Amang rose in revolt, defeated European armies,
- 13:50and in 1804 established an independent Haiti.
- 13:53The revolution forced a question that the American
- 13:56and French revolutions had largely evaded who
- 13:59counted as the people entitled to sovereignty.
- 14:03The American founders had restricted citizenship
- 14:06and suffrage. The French had abolished slavery
- 14:09in 1794 but re -imposed it under Napoleon. The
- 14:14Haitian revolution asserted that enslaved and
- 14:16colonized populations were fully human. fully
- 14:20capable of self -government and entitled to the
- 14:23rights that Europeans claimed for themselves.
- 14:26It was a democratic claim in the broadest sense,
- 14:29but it was met with isolation, indemnity demands,
- 14:34and decades of punitive exclusion from the community
- 14:38of nations. The revolution demonstrated that
- 14:41the boundaries of the people were not self -evident.
- 14:45They were contested, and the contest was often
- 14:48violent. By the early 19th century then, representative
- 14:53government existed in recognizable form in the
- 14:56United States and in fragments in Europe. But
- 15:00it was not democratic in the modern sense. The
- 15:04suffrage was restricted by property, race and
- 15:07gender. The systems were designed to be representative,
- 15:10not participatory. To filter opinion, not to
- 15:14express it directly. and to protect established
- 15:17interests, not to empower the dispossessed. The
- 15:21word democracy was still suspect. What changed
- 15:26this, and what eventually merged democracy with
- 15:29the system of representative government, was
- 15:31two centuries of struggle by those who had been
- 15:34excluded. The transformation was not automatic.
- 15:38It was fought for, organized, and sometimes won
- 15:42and lost repeatedly. In Britain, The Chartist
- 15:46movement of 1838 to 1857 was the first mass working
- 15:51-class political campaign. Its People's Charter
- 15:55demanded universal male suffrage, secret ballots,
- 15:59annual parliaments, and payment for members of
- 16:02parliament so that workingmen could afford to
- 16:05serve. Chartists organized massive petitions,
- 16:09held enormous meetings at Kennington Common in
- 16:131848. Estimates ranged from 50 ,000 to 150 ,000
- 16:19people, and presented their demands to a parliament
- 16:21that repeatedly rejected them. The movement failed
- 16:25in its immediate goals, but it established a
- 16:28model of working -class political organization
- 16:31and helped shift the boundaries of acceptable
- 16:33reform. Universal male suffrage in Britain was
- 16:38not achieved until 1918. and full equal suffrage
- 16:42for women not until 1928 in the united states
- 16:47the seneca falls convention of 1848 issued a
- 16:51declaration of sentiments modeled on the declaration
- 16:54of independence asserting that women were entitled
- 16:57to the full rights of citizenship including suffrage
- 17:0168 women and 32 men signed it including frederick
- 17:05douglas who argued that the struggle for women's
- 17:08rights was inseparable from the struggle for
- 17:11black rights. The abolitionist movement, the
- 17:14Civil War and Reconstruction brought constitutional
- 17:17amendments abolishing slavery and establishing
- 17:19birthright citizenship and equal protection.
- 17:23But these were undermined by Jim Crow laws, disenfranchisement
- 17:27and violence. The women's suffrage movement continued
- 17:31for seven decades after Seneca Falls, achieving
- 17:35its goal with the 19th Amendment in 1920. Anti
- 17:39-colonial movements in Asia, Africa and the Caribbean
- 17:43raised the question of democracy in a different
- 17:46register. Indian nationalists from the early
- 17:5020th century through independence in 1947 demanded
- 17:54not only national self -determination, but democratic
- 17:56governance within the new state. The Indian Constitution
- 18:00of 1950 established universal adult suffrage
- 18:04at a time when some European countries still
- 18:07restricted suffrage or maintained colonial subjecthood.
- 18:11African independence movements in the 1950s and
- 18:141960s similarly asserted democratic self -government.
- 18:18But many new states soon fell under authoritarian
- 18:22rule. The Haitian precedent that colonized and
- 18:26enslaved people could claim and exercise sovereignty
- 18:29resonated through these struggles, even when
- 18:31the outcomes fell short of democratic ideals.
- 18:35These movements did not simply expand a pre -existing
- 18:39democratic system. They transformed its meaning.
- 18:43Each struggle, labor, abolitionist, women's anti
- 18:47-colonial, forced a redefinition of who counted
- 18:50as the people. Each challenged the assumption
- 18:54that representation could be restricted to propertied
- 18:57white men. without betraying its own principles,
- 19:00and each contributed to a gradual merger between
- 19:04democracy and liberal constitutionalism, the
- 19:07idea that popular government must be accompanied
- 19:10by individual rights, rule of law, and limits
- 19:14on state power. But this merger was never complete
- 19:18or automatic. Democracy and liberalism arose
- 19:22through different histories and sometimes conflict.
- 19:26Liberalism, as a political philosophy, emphasizes
- 19:29individual rights, limited government, and protection
- 19:33of private property. It can exist without democracy,
- 19:36as it did in 19th century constitutional monarchies
- 19:39with restricted suffrage. Democracy, as a system
- 19:44of popular authorization and participation, can
- 19:47exist without liberalism, as it has in various
- 19:50illiberal majoritarian systems. The two can reinforce
- 19:55each other, but they are not the same thing.
- 19:58and their combination in the 20th century was
- 20:00a historical achievement not a logical necessity
- 20:03similarly democracy is not identical to republicanism
- 20:08majority rule social equality or the rule of
- 20:12law republicanism in its classical and early
- 20:16modern forms emphasized civic virtue mixed government
- 20:20and the common good often with suspicion of both
- 20:23monarchy and pure popular rule Many historical
- 20:27republics restricted participation severely.
- 20:30Majority rule is a decision procedure, not a
- 20:34complete political system. It can conflict with
- 20:37minority rights and constitutional limits. Social
- 20:41equality is a condition of status or opportunity.
- 20:44Democracy as a political system does not guarantee
- 20:47it, and it can be pursued through non -democratic
- 20:51means. The Rule of Law The principle that all
- 20:55persons and institutions are subject to publicly
- 20:58disclosed, evenly enforced laws, can exist in
- 21:03non -democratic systems, and can be absent in
- 21:06formally democratic ones. These concepts are
- 21:09adjacent to democracy, sometimes overlapping,
- 21:12sometimes in tension, treating them as identical
- 21:16obscures more than it clarifies. Nor is democracy
- 21:20a purely Western invention. exported unchanged
- 21:23to the rest of the world. Consultative and participatory
- 21:27traditions existed in many societies outside
- 21:30Europe, though they were often suppressed or
- 21:32ignored by colonial powers. Indigenous governance
- 21:36systems in the Americas, Africa, Asia, and the
- 21:40Pacific frequently involved deliberation by councils,
- 21:43consensus building, and mechanisms for holding
- 21:46leaders accountable. The Haudenosaunee Confederacy
- 21:49in North America, for example. developed a system
- 21:52of federal governance with checks on authority
- 21:54that predates European colonization, though the
- 21:58exact dating remains debated. Village councils
- 22:01and various African societies made decisions
- 22:03through extended deliberation. These traditions
- 22:07were not identical to Athenian democracy or modern
- 22:10representative government, but they demonstrate
- 22:13that the aspiration to collective self -rule
- 22:16was not confined to one civilization. Colonial
- 22:20powers often dismantled these systems, imposed
- 22:23authoritarian rule, and then claimed that democracy
- 22:27was a Western gift to the colonized. The historical
- 22:31record does not support this claim. By the mid
- 22:35-20th century, democracy had become the dominant
- 22:38political ideal in much of the world. But its
- 22:42meaning remained contested. The Cold War saw
- 22:45both Western and Soviet blocs claim democratic
- 22:48legitimacy. with radically different understandings
- 22:52of what the term implied. The Soviet bloc called
- 22:55itself People's Democracy, while Western states
- 22:58emphasized competitive elections and individual
- 23:00rights. Both sides claimed to represent the true
- 23:04will of the people. Decolonization brought new
- 23:08states into existence with democratic constitutions,
- 23:11many of which were quickly subverted by military
- 23:14coups or one -party rule. The late 20th century
- 23:18saw waves of democratization in Southern Europe,
- 23:22Latin America, East Asia and Eastern Europe.
- 23:26But it also saw the emergence of what scholars
- 23:29called illiberal democracy. Systems with competitive
- 23:33elections but weak protections for rights and
- 23:36minorities. What then can we say with confidence?
- 23:41Democracy is not one ancient machine. perfected
- 23:45in Athens and inherited by the modern world.
- 23:48It is an evolving argument over how ordinary
- 23:51people can authorize, limit, replace and participate
- 23:55in political power. The argument has taken different
- 23:58forms in different times and places. It has sometimes
- 24:02been direct and participatory, sometimes representative
- 24:06and filtered. It has sometimes included broad
- 24:09segments of the population, sometimes restricted
- 24:12them ruthlessly. It has sometimes been combined
- 24:15with liberal rights and constitutional limits,
- 24:18sometimes asserted against them. It has been
- 24:22claimed by movements for inclusion and by regimes
- 24:25that suppress dissent. Its meaning has never
- 24:28been fixed. When we argue about democracy today,
- 24:33about who counts as the people, about what powers
- 24:37they should have, about how they should exercise
- 24:40them, we are not resolving questions that were
- 24:43settled in ancient Greece. We are continuing
- 24:46an argument that has been going on for millennia
- 24:49across many societies with many different answers.
- 24:53The institutions we call democratic are the products
- 24:56of specific struggles, accidents and choices,
- 25:00not the inevitable unfolding of a single idea.
- 25:04Understanding this does not diminish democracy.
- 25:07It makes the argument more serious, more honest
- 25:11and more open to the recognition that the future
- 25:14of self -rule, like its past, will be shaped
- 25:18by human agency, contestation, and the difficult
- 25:21work of deciding who gets to participate and
- 25:24on what turns.