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EP392: Michael Chaleff - What Magicians Know That You Don't

"I literally had to build Michael away from myself. I created an image in my mind of a separate human being, and I put on that image my history, my thoughts, all of my beliefs and my choices. And then I asked myself: how do I feel about that person? And I honestly, I like that person." — Michael Chaleff

Michael Chaleff has been a naval officer, a federal trial attorney, a professional magician, a mentalist, and a TEDx speaker. That breadth is not accidental, and in this conversation he explains both the light and the dark side of it with unusual candor.

What magicians know, he says, comes…

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