Latest / The Bootleg Kev Podcast / #513 - 19 Keys
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Peace found me as nineteen Keys, the Coaches Thought Leader.
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- 0:56Speaker 2: podcasts Man, we got a special guest in here, one
- 0:59Speaker 2: of my favorite just mines Man nineteen Keys woome pleasure
- 1:03Speaker 2: to be Yes, Thanks for coming through, man, Yes, sir,
- 1:05Speaker 2: long overdue. Yeah, I first got hip to you a
- 1:09Speaker 2: few years ago because I'm cool with Mike. Shout to
- 1:12Speaker 2: the homie Mike. He had a MIKEAE Sheet, he had
- 1:15Speaker 2: a he's from well he's not from Phoenix, but I
- 1:18Speaker 2: knew him as a rapper from Arizona growing up. He
- 1:21Speaker 2: used to go by sind Q back in the day.
- 1:24Speaker 2: And so I started paying attention to this podcast and
- 1:26Speaker 2: you guys were doing the high level conversations on his channel,
- 1:30Speaker 2: and I remember watching one of your guys's talks and
- 1:31Speaker 2: it was just dope. So and then I've seen you
- 1:35Speaker 2: like BT and stuff, and you know, so I'm glad
- 1:36Speaker 2: to finally have you here.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Man, Man, I appreciate you. Michael Sheet a good dude, Yeah,
- 1:40Speaker 1: for sure.
- 1:42Speaker 2: First of all, it's been a wild couple of weeks.
- 1:45Speaker 1: You know, I look at him like every month is
- 1:46Speaker 1: a year now. Last year was crazy.
- 1:51Speaker 2: Yeah, No, like you said, January felt like a year. Yeah,
- 1:55Speaker 2: we got through. I'm like, damn, like this is how
- 1:57Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. It kicked off with the I mean,
- 2:00Speaker 2: obviously the fires were crazy here in LA and obviously
- 2:03Speaker 2: the election was wild, and it was just a man,
- 2:09Speaker 2: I feel like for anybody who's like even like on
- 2:12Speaker 2: the crypto front, like, it's just been a wild, wild
- 2:15Speaker 2: twenty twenty.
- 2:16Speaker 1: Five so far. To me, it's almost a very predictive though, right,
- 2:20Speaker 1: I already knew twenty twenty five was going to be
- 2:22Speaker 1: a crazy year regardless of who would have won, right, Right,
- 2:25Speaker 1: it's just you know with Trumpet office is going to
- 2:27Speaker 1: be even wilder. Yeah, this is a year to nine, man,
- 2:31Speaker 1: It's an end to cycles in the beginning of new things.
- 2:33Speaker 1: And it's also going to be a very conflicting year. Yeah. Right.
- 2:36Speaker 1: We see fires everywhere with the planes crashing, multiple planes crashing,
- 2:41Speaker 1: historical things, and I look at symbolism and things. You
- 2:44Speaker 1: feel me, if we at the end of an empire cycle,
- 2:47Speaker 1: you feel me, you're going to see higher conflict, You're
- 2:51Speaker 1: going to see a shifting power, right, because what this
- 2:56Speaker 1: current administration is trying to do is number one, the
- 2:58Speaker 1: preservation of power in the complete overhaul. Like they looking
- 3:02Speaker 1: at it like if we at the end of times, man,
- 3:04Speaker 1: let me get as much as I possibly can. And
- 3:07Speaker 1: their goal and what I'm seeing though is they're being
- 3:10Speaker 1: really good at keeping the people divided. So the people
- 3:13Speaker 1: scape go to each other and don't look at the
- 3:15Speaker 1: elites as the problem.
- 3:17Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because you know we go from like,
- 3:21Speaker 2: I guess this shadowy oligarch, Yeah, which has always been
- 3:25Speaker 2: American politics, where we know there's billionaires like this, but
- 3:29Speaker 2: we don't really know who they are, right, And then
- 3:31Speaker 2: now it's like no, now they're sitting at the inauguration
- 3:33Speaker 2: and they're like, you know, the new Age Tony Starks,
- 3:35Speaker 2: whether it's Elon or Mark Zuckerbern Sam Altman or whoever
- 3:38Speaker 2: it is.
- 3:39Speaker 1: But now the people accept it, right, Like the syab is,
- 3:44Speaker 1: how do you condition people to a point where they
- 3:47Speaker 1: accept it right? How do you keep showing them something
- 3:49Speaker 1: to where it becomes less and less shocking so by
- 3:53Speaker 1: time you're ready to roll it out, they're already conditioned
- 3:56Speaker 1: to be like, oh, my mind is already expanded to
- 3:59Speaker 1: accept this idea. So I'm no longer going to revolt
- 4:02Speaker 1: against you once I see it, Because if you would
- 4:04Speaker 1: have took this back ten years ago, the argument was
- 4:07Speaker 1: that whether the government is ran by the elite, whether
- 4:10Speaker 1: it's ran by a shadow government, whether it's ran by oligarchy,
- 4:14Speaker 1: And because that idea has been something that's been pushed
- 4:16Speaker 1: on us and imprinted into us since we were younger
- 4:19Speaker 1: in high school. Now that we see it, we're like, oh,
- 4:21Speaker 1: we already.
- 4:22Speaker 2: Knew that, and now it's like, no, that's what's happening, right.
- 4:24Speaker 1: But now there's no revolting spirit at all.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's funny because like now like some of
- 4:29Speaker 2: these figures, like you know, become like somehow like punk
- 4:34Speaker 2: rock even though they're like quite literally the opposite.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Does that make sense what I'm saying, Like, I mean,
- 4:40Speaker 1: look at Mark Zuckerberg and Eli Musk, Right, Mark Zuckerberg
- 4:43Speaker 1: is a good example. Everybody's looking at him as robotic,
- 4:46Speaker 1: dead in the eyes, right, And he had a pr
- 4:49Speaker 1: issue and then they decided to you know, go in
- 4:52Speaker 1: there and remake his image, right, and so they gave
- 4:55Speaker 1: him a curly hair, they gave him a gold chain.
- 4:57Speaker 1: Did the album with T Pain, right? He did you
- 5:00Speaker 1: the album with T Paint did which I never listened to,
- 5:02Speaker 1: and on a Plan too, but I remember that.
- 5:05Speaker 2: Do you remember that?
- 5:06Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 5:07Speaker 2: Jude him and T painted an album and then he
- 5:10Speaker 2: starts doing like jiu jitsu.
- 5:12Speaker 1: Jiu jitsu and all of this stuff. Man, that's that
- 5:15Speaker 1: was to number one Ease him in the minds of
- 5:17Speaker 1: the people, like what can we shape him into so
- 5:19Speaker 1: that they accept what comes from us, because the younger
- 5:22Speaker 1: generation will start rejecting these things. Right if you look
- 5:26Speaker 1: classically like an elite, right, and you look like you
- 5:29Speaker 1: are the problem, then they say, okay, well, how do
- 5:31Speaker 1: we start to assimilate in this culture where number one
- 5:34Speaker 1: is much harder to control? So you can't control everything
- 5:37Speaker 1: on TikTok, which is a reason why they were trying
- 5:39Speaker 1: to figure out, all right, how do we own that?
- 5:42Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny how we watched like over the three
- 5:46Speaker 2: or the last three or four years, like the pendulum
- 5:48Speaker 2: swing on the TikTok banning, and it was like it
- 5:51Speaker 2: kind of had gone away until the Palestine conflict happened,
- 5:58Speaker 2: and then that was the main kind of vehicle for
- 6:02Speaker 2: information to get to the kids, right, you know what
- 6:04Speaker 2: I mean, And then all of a sudden it had
- 6:06Speaker 2: been Oh now, all of a sudden, a lot of
- 6:08Speaker 2: people who didn't want it banned before, now it's an
- 6:12Speaker 2: issue again. And you know, I think a lot of
- 6:14Speaker 2: people have I think if you're paying attention, like that's
- 6:18Speaker 2: obviously what happened.
- 6:19Speaker 1: But you know, well, media is the most powerful medium,
- 6:23Speaker 1: and it's something that classically been controlled by a small
- 6:26Speaker 1: group of people. So anytime there's a disruption in that,
- 6:29Speaker 1: they got to figure out, all right, how do we
- 6:30Speaker 1: get our power back, because now you're going to put
- 6:33Speaker 1: a disruption on the timeline of things they want to
- 6:35Speaker 1: roll out because of the backlow that they gonna get
- 6:37Speaker 1: from the younger generation or just free media period. So
- 6:41Speaker 1: you put out a story in instead of everybody talking
- 6:43Speaker 1: about the story you put out, there's a whole new
- 6:45Speaker 1: story on how that's bogus. Right, there's a whole new
- 6:48Speaker 1: story with different details that legacy media didn't push, and
- 6:51Speaker 1: they like, wait a minute, nobody's believing us right now.
- 6:53Speaker 1: So that makes it harder for them to roll out
- 6:55Speaker 1: their agendas, especially talking about global politics. And the sentiment
- 7:00Speaker 1: is around empathy for the Palestinian people. Right. It used
- 7:04Speaker 1: to be way easier for them to control that narrative.
- 7:06Speaker 1: Now they can't, and they can't suppress it and pretend
- 7:09Speaker 1: it's not happening. Right. The sentiment of the crowd is
- 7:12Speaker 1: very obvious when you go on TikTok that people are
- 7:15Speaker 1: empathizing with the Palestinian people and believing that the things
- 7:18Speaker 1: that are happening with the murdering of children and women
- 7:22Speaker 1: is just evil. There's no political spin you could put
- 7:25Speaker 1: on it. So it's interesting to where you even see
- 7:28Speaker 1: the things that Donald Trump doing to suppress voices against
- 7:31Speaker 1: you know, Israel, and consider that to be anti Semitism,
- 7:34Speaker 1: but even his base don't like that.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because I saw today. I don't know
- 7:38Speaker 2: if you saw this on you might have. You know,
- 7:40Speaker 2: somebody who I like grew up not really fucking with
- 7:42Speaker 2: is Tucker Carlson. Yeah, but Tucker Carlson did an interview
- 7:46Speaker 2: with Piers Morgan today and I was like, am I
- 7:49Speaker 2: end the upside down world?
- 7:51Speaker 1: Roere?
- 7:51Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, Tucker, I see you, bro, like
- 7:54Speaker 2: where He's like, I'm sorry, is there? Like we were
- 7:59Speaker 2: supposed to be fight the idea of being evil And
- 8:02Speaker 2: if you don't think the killing, the purposeful killing of
- 8:05Speaker 2: women and children and citizens isn't evil, then what are
- 8:08Speaker 2: we talking about?
- 8:10Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that you're going to see more to happen.
- 8:12Speaker 2: Even like Cannas Owens like shout out to Candas, Like
- 8:14Speaker 2: I don't agree with everything Cannis Owns says, but like
- 8:16Speaker 2: I've definitely had like a hard shift in terms of
- 8:18Speaker 2: like like damn, like Cannas Owens ain't like as crazy
- 8:22Speaker 2: like you know, growing up like you know, obviously being
- 8:26Speaker 2: like hardcore democrat over the years, you know what I'm saying,
- 8:29Speaker 2: Like you always would just be like, yo, Cannis Owens
- 8:31Speaker 2: is she's she's the boogeyman, you know, or Tucker like,
- 8:35Speaker 2: but it's like not everything and I think I think
- 8:38Speaker 2: over the last eight years, I would kind of say, really,
- 8:41Speaker 2: since COVID, a lot of shit is in the gray space, man, Like,
- 8:46Speaker 2: you can't look at everything as black or white. You
- 8:48Speaker 2: can't take everything from each side and write it off fully. Now.
- 8:53Speaker 2: The other thing with that is society will try to
- 8:55Speaker 2: paint you as all of that or all of this
- 8:56Speaker 2: if you don't align with everything each side is trying to.
- 9:00Speaker 1: To what you're looking at is different agendas though, So
- 9:03Speaker 1: it's like it's a very interesting breakdown with this. So
- 9:07Speaker 1: you got a part of the MAGA group and they're
- 9:09Speaker 1: not all united. People act like they're not. They're very different,
- 9:12Speaker 1: very divided. There are some people who are completely anti Israel, right,
- 9:17Speaker 1: most of his basis anti Israel, most of his bas
- 9:20Speaker 1: is anti Zionists. Right. So when he does things that
- 9:23Speaker 1: are pro Israel. They don't agree with that, but they
- 9:25Speaker 1: take that because they want him to help them on
- 9:26Speaker 1: other fronts, the America first front, which is hypocritical in
- 9:30Speaker 1: a way. Right, But when you see somebody like Candice On,
- 9:34Speaker 1: you see somebody like Tucker Carlson, she got what fired
- 9:37Speaker 1: right by Zionists, So now she start going down this
- 9:41Speaker 1: rabbit hole. Right, So they talk about being red pilled,
- 9:44Speaker 1: and now I don't know what this is. Desion is
- 9:46Speaker 1: pilled if you will, right to where you have these
- 9:49Speaker 1: people that say, wait a minute, they were pro White,
- 9:51Speaker 1: they weren't pro Israel. So now there's this difference of
- 9:54Speaker 1: saying that, wait a minute, that basis looking at it
- 9:58Speaker 1: from an ethnicity standpoint, then looking at it from a
- 10:00Speaker 1: Christian saying that we was all together on this maga.
- 10:03Speaker 1: But it's maga Christian or not, because if it were,
- 10:07Speaker 1: then that means that we need to move based on
- 10:08Speaker 1: Christian values. Right. And then you can't stand hypocritically in
- 10:12Speaker 1: front of a microphone, right in front of your base
- 10:14Speaker 1: to be pushing pro Christian values and at the same
- 10:18Speaker 1: time be pro war, right and wanting to kill women
- 10:22Speaker 1: and children, right, And then stand in front of that happily.
- 10:25Speaker 1: But you realize is that they might sell Bibles and
- 10:27Speaker 1: they may use Christianity, but they're using it as a
- 10:30Speaker 1: vehicle for manipulation because they know that that base wants
- 10:34Speaker 1: these conservative values pushed. But do the oligarch and the
- 10:39Speaker 1: megalomaniacs actually care about that? And the answer is no,
- 10:44Speaker 1: Right these are Elon Musk is a transhumanist. That's against
- 10:47Speaker 1: Christian values. Right. He wants to go to Mars and
- 10:50Speaker 1: things of that nature. Do they care about living in
- 10:52Speaker 1: harmony with the planet Earth or do they care about
- 10:55Speaker 1: just extraction? And capitalism is against Christian values, right, especially
- 11:00Speaker 1: dream capitalism in a way that's plagued out in America
- 11:03Speaker 1: today and right now, I believe that we just at
- 11:05Speaker 1: this point where capitalism is eroding at the soul of
- 11:09Speaker 1: human beings. Right. They focusing on wage suppression instead of
- 11:13Speaker 1: figuring out how do you increase the quality of life
- 11:15Speaker 1: for people in America? It's just about how much money
- 11:18Speaker 1: are we making? What does that have to do with
- 11:20Speaker 1: the fact that most Americans are depressed, overweight, right, have anxiety,
- 11:25Speaker 1: and they have no vision or dream towards the future
- 11:28Speaker 1: aspirationally like America is losing its capacity to be an
- 11:32Speaker 1: inspirational and influential place because we have so much conflict,
- 11:36Speaker 1: and so you're going to see that base continue to
- 11:39Speaker 1: divide on their talking points because they have different agendas,
- 11:43Speaker 1: and now they're starting to criss cross, you feel me,
- 11:46Speaker 1: especially when it's who's running the government becomes is it
- 11:49Speaker 1: Elion's agenda? Is it Trump's agenda? Who's behind Trump's agenda?
- 11:53Speaker 1: I believe Yeah. The first presidency I think was a
- 11:57Speaker 1: more honest Trump, right, because I think he was surprised
- 12:01Speaker 1: that he even won, right, But this time number one,
- 12:03Speaker 1: he had four years to prepare. Then you have all
- 12:06Speaker 1: these allies that he had to take money and promises for, right,
- 12:09Speaker 1: So now he has to, you know, fulfill those promises.
- 12:12Speaker 1: And Trump likes to be like so he's trying to
- 12:14Speaker 1: fulfill those promises as much as possible, you feel me.
- 12:17Speaker 1: But then a lot of those promises are contradicting to
- 12:21Speaker 1: each person that gave him. For the citizens, is it
- 12:24Speaker 1: for olive gards, is it for the people that's pro
- 12:26Speaker 1: oil or electric? Right, it's for the people that's pro
- 12:29Speaker 1: Palestine or pro Israel. Freedom of speech or censorship? I
- 12:34Speaker 1: think there's a lot of conflict within the mega party
- 12:36Speaker 1: itself that eventually it's gonna cause it to implode, which
- 12:39Speaker 1: is why you see people like what's the one Indian
- 12:42Speaker 1: guy that got out of there, like Vek Man.
- 12:45Speaker 2: Like I thought Vivek was, Like I saw footage of
- 12:48Speaker 2: him like being very kind to people on the college
- 12:50Speaker 2: campuses who weren't necessarily aligning.
- 12:53Speaker 1: Played the game. But like what he said, they got
- 12:56Speaker 1: him there quick because he started talking. He forgot he
- 13:00Speaker 1: he forgot that they were white. First, we start talking
- 13:03Speaker 1: to white people like he was better than them, and
- 13:05Speaker 1: it was like, we rock with you as long as
- 13:07Speaker 1: you're saying what we want to hear.
- 13:09Speaker 2: He had that tweet that yeah, yeah, the di visas
- 13:13Speaker 2: and and uh, you know how America's Yeah, we're raised
- 13:17Speaker 2: on different values.
- 13:18Speaker 1: And he reminded people that they not. He reminded white
- 13:21Speaker 1: people that they're not the top of the food chain
- 13:24Speaker 1: in America. He said, no, there's agents they're the most
- 13:27Speaker 1: educated group in America and they have the highest grossing
- 13:30Speaker 1: household income and part of that is based on how
- 13:32Speaker 1: they actually live by their family values. Right, And so
- 13:36Speaker 1: that disruption of that thought process to say that wait
- 13:39Speaker 1: a minute, we got the highest paying jobs and were
- 13:41Speaker 1: running these tech sectors. The white people as a look
- 13:43Speaker 1: at themselves and say, wait a minute, you're saying we
- 13:45Speaker 1: d e I. Because what he said is well, if
- 13:48Speaker 1: we get rid of DEI and we operate based on merit,
- 13:52Speaker 1: then we're still going to get the jobs because we're
- 13:54Speaker 1: the ones educated in these sectors, right, and we're the
- 13:57Speaker 1: ones the most qualified. So you don't want to go
- 14:00Speaker 1: based on merit if we're going toe to toe, And
- 14:02Speaker 1: that's when they had to look at themselves. They get
- 14:03Speaker 1: his ass out of here.
- 14:04Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny with this di I conversation is like
- 14:08Speaker 2: you know, my co host James was telling me, He's like, yo,
- 14:10Speaker 2: if you look at some of the de I numbers,
- 14:11Speaker 2: it's mostly white women.
- 14:12Speaker 1: Yeah, most benefit women.
- 14:15Speaker 2: But it's become this like like you know the airplane
- 14:19Speaker 2: crash that happened, Like when the first ding Trump went
- 14:22Speaker 2: to was it I was stupid.
- 14:23Speaker 1: It was just it's like, without having any information, you
- 14:26Speaker 1: just gonna say d. That just shows you how they
- 14:28Speaker 1: just gonna utilize this.
- 14:29Speaker 2: It's like red weight to throw yes to incite the base, right,
- 14:34Speaker 2: And to me, it's like you know, to have like
- 14:37Speaker 2: a real conversation about like what DEI actually is, who
- 14:39Speaker 2: it actually benefits, whether or not it's beneficial for the
- 14:42Speaker 2: you know, workforce as a whole.
- 14:44Speaker 1: That's like a conversation that, Yeah, that's different, that's different.
- 14:46Speaker 2: But I feel like, what's what it's turning into is like, well,
- 14:50Speaker 2: every time something's wrong, somehow you just pulled this, yeah,
- 14:55Speaker 2: googie man of di I into it.
- 14:57Speaker 1: We're having two different conversations about d It's the way
- 15:00Speaker 1: it's weaponized. It's the actual reality of it, right, because
- 15:04Speaker 1: for me, it gotta be nuanced. The Democrats did go
- 15:06Speaker 1: far left extreme with things, and they never take any accountability,
- 15:10Speaker 1: which means that if they don't take accountability, then you're
- 15:13Speaker 1: gonna look at the base exact the same way, and
- 15:15Speaker 1: we're gonna say we're still not rocking with you. Because
- 15:18Speaker 1: they did go to the trans movie, they did go
- 15:20Speaker 1: completely LGBT in women's movement and specifically, and they did
- 15:25Speaker 1: go full War two. They did in full War machine.
- 15:28Speaker 1: But guess who was left out of that black men?
- 15:31Speaker 1: Black men was like, okay, well you said DIA, but
- 15:33Speaker 1: that don't mean black men. Even like you're going to
- 15:36Speaker 1: see an increase in homosexuality in black media. Before you
- 15:40Speaker 1: see an increase of Black Muslims on the TV. Why
- 15:43Speaker 1: is that we contributed the most to Black American history? Right,
- 15:47Speaker 1: Yet when you talk about diversity, it don't mean diversity
- 15:50Speaker 1: within Black America, especially when they talk about black men,
- 15:53Speaker 1: because we're not a monolift, so our voices are not
- 15:55Speaker 1: even contributed. So if I don't see myself, then I
- 15:58Speaker 1: got to push myself. I gotta force it. Now, we
- 16:00Speaker 1: got a problem. Right, Even when they talk about black
- 16:03Speaker 1: women being the most educated group in America, they was
- 16:05Speaker 1: talking about that. Actually that's within Black America, so saying
- 16:10Speaker 1: that she's more educated than black men because we're going
- 16:12Speaker 1: by the numbers as Asians, whites, Blacks than Mexicans, right,
- 16:15Speaker 1: and the most educated group would be East Indians. So
- 16:19Speaker 1: what that really was was just a divisive thing that
- 16:21Speaker 1: they was utilizing as propaganda to push one up and
- 16:24Speaker 1: push one down. You not doing enough and we're doing
- 16:26Speaker 1: more than y'all, right, instead of this thing doesn't of ours.
- 16:31Speaker 1: Doesn't work unless it's collaborative, unless it's cooperative. So I've
- 16:37Speaker 1: seen influencers talk about how black men heterosexual black men,
- 16:41Speaker 1: they say cis gender. I hate that word. First of all,
- 16:43Speaker 1: that's crazy. You can't. First of all, I don't call
- 16:46Speaker 1: a straight male cis you know I'm talking about that
- 16:49Speaker 1: don't make no sense.
- 16:50Speaker 2: It's almost like I don't know. I'm married to a
- 16:52Speaker 2: Mexican woman. Most of my friends growing up or you know,
- 16:56Speaker 2: Mexican American, and I don't know anybody who says LATINX.
- 16:59Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody gonna utilize none of those terms. So they
- 17:03Speaker 1: went too far right. They took this playbook that doesn't
- 17:06Speaker 1: represent the values of Black America whatsoever. Then you throw
- 17:10Speaker 1: intersectionality in there, right, and then we've seen that that
- 17:14Speaker 1: wasn't real. So intersectionality is when the black women and
- 17:18Speaker 1: the white women and the LGBT right, they are grouped
- 17:21Speaker 1: together as an oppressed group. And so you would hear
- 17:24Speaker 1: all of these stats about what they're not getting, and
- 17:26Speaker 1: I always be like, damn, y'all act like black men
- 17:28Speaker 1: are getting all the things. Y'all saying, y'all nut right.
- 17:31Speaker 1: Even when we talk about VC capital at less than
- 17:33Speaker 1: one percent going to black people, but instead of saying
- 17:36Speaker 1: that number, you talk about the less than one percent
- 17:39Speaker 1: going to black women. It's like, why don't we just
- 17:41Speaker 1: talk about it as a whole, because it's not a
- 17:43Speaker 1: competition of who getting less between us. We have to
- 17:46Speaker 1: be a family, and then saying how do we go
- 17:49Speaker 1: get more? But I look at this timeline of history
- 17:52Speaker 1: right now is wrong When a lot of people will
- 17:55Speaker 1: go study African American studies, but you're still only going
- 17:59Speaker 1: to get an ancestral study, right, that gets pulled out.
- 18:03Speaker 1: And then at the end of that, you have to
- 18:05Speaker 1: ask yourself, if I indoctrinate you completely with African American studies,
- 18:08Speaker 1: what sort of consciousness do you have? Is it a
- 18:10Speaker 1: do for self? Do you feel victorious or do you
- 18:13Speaker 1: feel low pressed? Do you feel like an assimilationist? Right?
- 18:16Speaker 1: Do you feel like an integrationists? When you look at
- 18:19Speaker 1: American history, why wasn't Marcus Garvey and Elijah Muhammad taught
- 18:23Speaker 1: as much when they had the most successful platforms ever
- 18:27Speaker 1: built in American history. We hear about Black Wall Street,
- 18:30Speaker 1: which was incredible, right, but we never hear about the
- 18:34Speaker 1: economic network of the nation Islam. Right. When they would
- 18:37Speaker 1: do their Saviors Day meetings, they would report fifty million
- 18:40Speaker 1: dollars in earnings and in today's time, that's half a beat, right,
- 18:43Speaker 1: which would have been worth more than Black Wall Street.
- 18:45Speaker 1: At the time, he had an economic network all across America.
- 18:49Speaker 1: But that lesson was never even taught in school, that
- 18:52Speaker 1: that was the last economic empire that we had, right,
- 18:56Speaker 1: and it didn't fail per se. His son inherited and
- 18:59Speaker 1: his son dismantled. So it wasn't something that was just
- 19:01Speaker 1: destroyed like Black Wall Street. So it doesn't end with
- 19:04Speaker 1: this tragic story of saying everything we built they gonna destroy. No,
- 19:08Speaker 1: that's not the real.
- 19:09Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the narrative of what happened in Tulsa is
- 19:12Speaker 2: like it reads to historic history books better.
- 19:17Speaker 1: It's a victim mindset that it possesses, and it ends
- 19:20Speaker 1: with trauma. And anytime you feel like something is with trauma.
- 19:23Speaker 1: And you don't come from a place of victory like
- 19:25Speaker 1: you know, somebody, you ask somebody when they front of
- 19:27Speaker 1: Bay where you frond, the gonna say Oakland. But why
- 19:29Speaker 1: they say it like that though, It's because you saying,
- 19:32Speaker 1: I'll come from a place of pride, right, You feel
- 19:34Speaker 1: me like this is where I'm speaking from. You feel
- 19:37Speaker 1: me like that moral pride and that pride that you
- 19:39Speaker 1: have itself makes you feel like you can do anything.
- 19:42Speaker 1: But a lot of times the way we feel about
- 19:45Speaker 1: Black history is like, oh, we came from this place
- 19:47Speaker 1: of oppression, we with slaves, and then slavery is not
- 19:50Speaker 1: taught right, right, we don't talk about the Seminole wars.
- 19:53Speaker 1: And when there was free towns in Florida and there
- 19:56Speaker 1: was men like John Horst that would fall, he fought
- 19:59Speaker 1: into wards and in multiple battles, he fought for his freedom,
- 20:02Speaker 1: He fought against the Indians, he fought with the Indians,
- 20:05Speaker 1: you feel me. And then of course there were the
- 20:07Speaker 1: blacksimin alls that had babies, the Native Americans and Africans
- 20:10Speaker 1: having babies. We don't even talk about that lineage and
- 20:12Speaker 1: timeline enough. That was a complete warrior class where they
- 20:17Speaker 1: was fighting wars and winning, and we just don't spread
- 20:20Speaker 1: that information at all, Like we're not a warrior class
- 20:23Speaker 1: of super resilient people. Because if you got that kind
- 20:27Speaker 1: of pride growing up, you think of your timeline differently. Right,
- 20:30Speaker 1: If you come from just the Malcolm and Martin timeline,
- 20:34Speaker 1: that's conflict and you Malcolm as you Martin, is it
- 20:37Speaker 1: must because if.
- 20:39Speaker 2: You're surface level educated on both of them, then their
- 20:41Speaker 2: their opposites, their polar.
- 20:43Speaker 1: Opposites, and where do they lead nowhere right right, I'm
- 20:47Speaker 1: talking about as a whole people because people that even
- 20:50Speaker 1: people that follow Malcolm don't actually follow him, right. They
- 20:53Speaker 1: inspired by the story, but they don't follow the teachings.
- 20:56Speaker 1: A cat to have a whole Malcolm X tattoo a
- 20:58Speaker 1: white girl on his arm and god damn you feel
- 21:01Speaker 1: me go East i Port the next day. But he
- 21:02Speaker 1: was inspired by Malcolm. That's not the power. The power
- 21:06Speaker 1: is what made him Malcolm X, and that would be
- 21:08Speaker 1: the teachings that he learned.
- 21:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say too, Like you know, it's as
- 21:13Speaker 2: a young white kid who would just go to the
- 21:16Speaker 2: library all the time. I remember reading the autobiography of
- 21:18Speaker 2: Malcolm X back in the day and just like realizing like,
- 21:20Speaker 2: oh this food was like a fucking player for real,
- 21:23Speaker 2: Like Detroit Red was like like.
- 21:25Speaker 1: You know Detroit, like Oakland, you feel me, you go
- 21:27Speaker 1: grow up in it.
- 21:28Speaker 2: Yeah, like just such a complex guy who I feel
- 21:32Speaker 2: like somehow, Like you know, it's like you said, man,
- 21:36Speaker 2: somebody get a whole tattoo of somebody, or wear a
- 21:38Speaker 2: hoodie or you know, and it's like there's so much.
- 21:41Speaker 1: We make them symbols without substance, right right, and when
- 21:45Speaker 1: they just assembol without the meaning and understanding and the
- 21:49Speaker 1: nuance in the background. Like if you studied the life
- 21:51Speaker 1: of Malcolm, it should lead you to Elijah Muhammad's teaching.
- 21:55Speaker 1: What was he studying? How did he become who he was?
- 21:57Speaker 1: And then I just I was putting together, think it's
- 22:00Speaker 1: a newsletter that I have, and it was, what is
- 22:02Speaker 1: the world without Elijah Mohammad? Right, And then you have
- 22:05Speaker 1: to go into a whole lot of nuance. If Elija
- 22:07Speaker 1: Mama doesn't exist at all, the whole world changes. Hip
- 22:11Speaker 1: hop changes. Right. Sure, you don't get Father Alive, you
- 22:14Speaker 1: don't get you know what I mean, the God body influence.
- 22:17Speaker 1: Right in hip hop. You don't get the rock kymns,
- 22:19Speaker 1: in the woo.
- 22:19Speaker 2: Tangs, you don't get ris of, you don't get chuck
- 22:23Speaker 2: d you don't get so much stuff is then a
- 22:25Speaker 2: student of his was doctor Sebby.
- 22:27Speaker 1: He was the first to give us the dietary restrictions
- 22:29Speaker 1: on what to eat in America. So then you get
- 22:31Speaker 1: a change in that you don't see the seams everywhere, right,
- 22:36Speaker 1: not saying that he directly told anybody Seamas, but doctor
- 22:39Speaker 1: Sebbey said, this was the only black leader that I
- 22:41Speaker 1: seen that was worried about black people's health because he
- 22:44Speaker 1: was an f y at one point in time. You
- 22:46Speaker 1: don't get Malcolm X, and you don't get honorable minisulis
- 22:51Speaker 1: farcime with the million man march right, you don't get
- 22:54Speaker 1: none of these things. You have to change so much
- 22:56Speaker 1: about history and black consciousness. And that is just saying
- 22:59Speaker 1: that when you erase figures like essentially Marcus Garvey from
- 23:04Speaker 1: truly being understood, right, and you erased you know, noble
- 23:08Speaker 1: drew our leave from truly being understood and the unoboy
- 23:10Speaker 1: like Muhammad, and you only give us right as our
- 23:14Speaker 1: main people that we go to in our minds Martin
- 23:17Speaker 1: and Malcolm right. But that right, there is a contradiction
- 23:20Speaker 1: within itself because even Martin Luther King, history wasn't the dream.
- 23:24Speaker 1: It was who he was after that speech. That's his
- 23:27Speaker 1: real story. What do you started talking about after that?
- 23:30Speaker 1: And he was like, man, I realize this we go
- 23:33Speaker 1: burn in this house if we integrate. I realize it
- 23:35Speaker 1: gotta be economic upliftment. I realized we got to get
- 23:38Speaker 1: our own because the America that we're about to integrate
- 23:41Speaker 1: in is so morally bankrupt that it's gonna corrupt us
- 23:45Speaker 1: if we integrate within it. So it's easy and commercially
- 23:48Speaker 1: viable for America to spread the dream speech because that's
- 23:52Speaker 1: easier for them to control. But the radical leaders that
- 23:55Speaker 1: say do for self. We're gonna build our own economic base.
- 23:58Speaker 1: We're gonna have our own airplace and important exports in
- 24:01Speaker 1: our own banks and supermarkets and schools, and say, look,
- 24:05Speaker 1: that's cool with the Montgomery bus boycott, but what about
- 24:08Speaker 1: we just take our money and invest in our own
- 24:09Speaker 1: buses that we already have, and then we can bust
- 24:12Speaker 1: our own people instead of trying to sit in front
- 24:14Speaker 1: of the bus. That is a completely radical difference, and
- 24:18Speaker 1: I think this generation is more aligned with the radical
- 24:20Speaker 1: teachers that was talking about economic rights versus just civil rights.
- 24:24Speaker 2: Do you think there was a purposeful effort to make
- 24:29Speaker 2: Black America dependent on the system percent? That's the Yeah.
- 24:36Speaker 2: Me and James always talk about it, and he's like,
- 24:37Speaker 2: if you go back and look like the black family
- 24:39Speaker 2: was strongest prior to one hundred percent, you know, uh,
- 24:45Speaker 2: the incentivizing black men and not being the home of
- 24:48Speaker 2: their children. You know, if you were a mom, like
- 24:50Speaker 2: you know dates at there were certain points in times
- 24:52Speaker 2: where they come to your door and see if the
- 24:53Speaker 2: dad was there, you know, for you to get you know,
- 24:56Speaker 2: your welfare and all that shit. And so it's like
- 24:58Speaker 2: you said, it's like if you talk about you know,
- 25:01Speaker 2: Black Wall Street, it's like, why hasn't that been replicated
- 25:05Speaker 2: in since then?
- 25:07Speaker 1: That's the whole point. It has multiple times. There was
- 25:10Speaker 1: multiple cities, over sixty plus towns and cities. What happened
- 25:14Speaker 1: is is that story after that time, after that happened, well,
- 25:18Speaker 1: we had high end belief because you got to remember, right,
- 25:20Speaker 1: you're talking about a time man late eighteen hundreds, early
- 25:23Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds, right in the nineteen twenties, there was this
- 25:27Speaker 1: belief right that we can do for self coming out
- 25:30Speaker 1: of at the eighteen sixty five June teenth, right coming
- 25:33Speaker 1: out of that slavery and so calledly being and mascipated.
- 25:38Speaker 1: The belief was, all right, we're gonna build our own
- 25:40Speaker 1: thing now. Like they was afraid because they understood that
- 25:44Speaker 1: the black working class was going to be a large
- 25:46Speaker 1: consumer group and have so much power, right, and so
- 25:50Speaker 1: they seen that because it wasn't just everybody just out
- 25:53Speaker 1: of rags and slavery. There was a lot of free
- 25:54Speaker 1: black people already at that time, right that were stooped.
- 25:58Speaker 1: That were leaders and teachers that had written books and
- 26:00Speaker 1: have philosophies right like Frederick Douglass. So they understood, wait
- 26:05Speaker 1: a minute, if we lead them up to their own devices,
- 26:07Speaker 1: they just gonna build. And they did. They had their
- 26:10Speaker 1: own political systems, they had their own newspapers in multiple cities.
- 26:15Speaker 1: It wasn't just Black Wall Street that was burnt down.
- 26:17Speaker 1: But what they was really trying to do was kill
- 26:19Speaker 1: the spirit to believe in doing for self. How do
- 26:22Speaker 1: we stop to get y'all believing you can create your
- 26:24Speaker 1: own city, in infrastructure, in economy. That was what it
- 26:27Speaker 1: was really about. It was a terrorist event destroy the
- 26:30Speaker 1: spirit right of self sovereignty in this country by Black Americans,
- 26:35Speaker 1: and they wanted them to spread that terrorst story so
- 26:38Speaker 1: that you never speak from this victorious place like we
- 26:40Speaker 1: can do everything ourselves. That's when leaders that started talking
- 26:44Speaker 1: about integration, right, and how do we work within the system.
- 26:48Speaker 1: The third Good marshals and things of that nature became
- 26:51Speaker 1: more popular because the belief was less of let's just
- 26:55Speaker 1: create our own and then it was more of how
- 26:57Speaker 1: do we work with them? You get the naacps born
- 27:00Speaker 1: not those movements, but at that time there was always
- 27:03Speaker 1: different dissenting voices against each other saying no, I think
- 27:06Speaker 1: the best way for it is we create our own.
- 27:09Speaker 1: Those voices always went further. That's where you get the
- 27:11Speaker 1: Marcus Garvey's right saying he was teaching about stock certificates
- 27:16Speaker 1: and giving people equity inside, you know, his business with
- 27:19Speaker 1: the Black Star line because he looked at the white
- 27:21Speaker 1: star line and said, well, and we just have our own, right,
- 27:24Speaker 1: same thing we do now, that entrepreneurial spirit, that Pan
- 27:28Speaker 1: African movement that is from Marcus Garvey. The black Star
- 27:32Speaker 1: and Naghana flag wouldn't be black if it wasn't for him, right,
- 27:36Speaker 1: that's the Black Star line. So that was the radical
- 27:39Speaker 1: movement of us looking at it like all right, we
- 27:41Speaker 1: actually was doing. We also had global alliances too, and
- 27:46Speaker 1: this is one of interesting things because now there's always
- 27:48Speaker 1: this fight between FBAs and Africans and things. But at
- 27:52Speaker 1: that time you had a connection between the Japanese and
- 27:57Speaker 1: all of the black groups because the Japanese was going
- 27:59Speaker 1: to get some America, so they started looking at maybe
- 28:02Speaker 1: they going to be the ones to defeat white supremacy, right,
- 28:04Speaker 1: we seen them complete the operation defeating the Russians and
- 28:07Speaker 1: we was like, oh, we ain't never seen nobody with
- 28:09Speaker 1: the white boys like that. They might be the ones.
- 28:12Speaker 1: So there was a black Dragon society right that was
- 28:15Speaker 1: committing assassinations and they was based on pan Asianism. They
- 28:18Speaker 1: wanted Asia for Asians. Then they connected with the Pan
- 28:21Speaker 1: Africans want African for Africans, right, and so that became
- 28:26Speaker 1: this connection of how do we help influence these groups
- 28:29Speaker 1: in America that want to do for self, that don't
- 28:31Speaker 1: like white supremacy and we don't like it, even though
- 28:34Speaker 1: they was really going for imperialism. So what happened was
- 28:38Speaker 1: after they lost World War two, I Blair world War two, right,
- 28:41Speaker 1: the Hiroshima bomb dropped on them. That destroyed this belief
- 28:45Speaker 1: because and this is something that we never talk about,
- 28:48Speaker 1: what did that bomb do to Black Americans when they
- 28:52Speaker 1: seen America drop a bomb on Hiroshima and the Japanese
- 28:56Speaker 1: were starting to seem like an ally for the black community.
- 29:00Speaker 1: Devastated a lot of groups who had connections with the Japanese.
- 29:03Speaker 1: So you had somebody like Maddie Maud who was from
- 29:05Speaker 1: offset of Marcus Garvey had over three hundred thousand members.
- 29:09Speaker 1: She was getting funding from the Japanese and she was
- 29:13Speaker 1: pushing pro Japanese sentiment right throughout the hoods and throughout
- 29:17Speaker 1: her organization. But when they lost, she lost a lot
- 29:20Speaker 1: of those followers, and a lot of them came to
- 29:22Speaker 1: the Nation Islam because the Nation Islam were still had
- 29:26Speaker 1: the same message of we're gonna do for self and
- 29:28Speaker 1: it's the black man that you follow. Nobody else is
- 29:30Speaker 1: gonna come to save us. We're gonna save ourselves. Right,
- 29:33Speaker 1: So then you start looking at how history shifted after that,
- 29:37Speaker 1: and we start moving more towards civil rights and integrational lists,
- 29:41Speaker 1: and I think it was a spiritual change. It was
- 29:44Speaker 1: a fear right that pushed us towards that movement. Right.
- 29:48Speaker 1: It wasn't our radical leaders that was talking about economics.
- 29:51Speaker 1: They said, man, how about we just figure out how
- 29:53Speaker 1: to work with these boys. Because and then I believe
- 29:55Speaker 1: that was also FBI and CIA that was integrating and
- 29:58Speaker 1: pushing certain leaders and putting money behind certain voices to
- 30:02Speaker 1: push that propaganda.
- 30:04Speaker 2: Do you feel like today we talked a little bit
- 30:08Speaker 2: earlier about just kind of like mainstream media's I guess
- 30:11Speaker 2: lack of a grip on everybody now. I mean, obviously
- 30:14Speaker 2: there's still certain demographic that just goes through CNN and
- 30:18Speaker 2: Fox News and they just eat whatever they're giving. But
- 30:21Speaker 2: now there's guys like yourself. Now there's like it's a
- 30:25Speaker 2: good and a bad thing, right. It's almost like I'm
- 30:28Speaker 2: a DJ. So when Serado got introduced to everybody who
- 30:30Speaker 2: had a laptop could be a DJ. So you did.
- 30:32Speaker 2: But now it's like, you know, everyone's kind of their
- 30:36Speaker 2: own if they wanted, if they choose to be an
- 30:38Speaker 2: independent source of media, they can be right, There's really
- 30:40Speaker 2: no there's no like a limit to what you could
- 30:44Speaker 2: do in terms of just posting on TikTok, posting on Instagram,
- 30:47Speaker 2: et cetera. Are you encouraged by that because now there
- 30:52Speaker 2: isn't you know? Because I told my wife all the
- 30:55Speaker 2: time when we're talking about like what the kids are
- 30:57Speaker 2: learning the school and shit, and I'll see some of
- 30:58Speaker 2: this shit and I'm like, I mean, it's so much
- 31:03Speaker 2: like so much more information so readily available to kids
- 31:07Speaker 2: to where like I feel like people like if I
- 31:09Speaker 2: was a kid and I was in history class, I'd
- 31:11Speaker 2: be raising my hand all the time being like what
- 31:13Speaker 2: about this?
- 31:14Speaker 1: You know, well, we are in this attention economy, right.
- 31:17Speaker 1: So here's the dangerous thing about it. This we have
- 31:21Speaker 1: a wealth of information, but a poverty of attention, true, right,
- 31:25Speaker 1: So we can't pay attention to anything anymore because there's
- 31:28Speaker 1: too much information.
- 31:29Speaker 2: You're just swiping.
- 31:30Speaker 1: Yeah, if somebody came to you and they just told
- 31:32Speaker 1: you one hundred things, right, none of that just intake.
- 31:35Speaker 1: It's too much to try to remember, right, So instead
- 31:39Speaker 1: we need focus right now. And what I think is
- 31:41Speaker 1: going to happen is it's going to be a lot
- 31:44Speaker 1: of voices that get cut out right, and people are
- 31:49Speaker 1: going to look for more experts to listen to. Right,
- 31:53Speaker 1: news that actually has value that you can trust during
- 31:56Speaker 1: this time, Incredible voices that they can go towards. Because
- 32:00Speaker 1: this is making this is increasing people anxiety. Right, you
- 32:03Speaker 1: start doom scrolling. You're just looking for more information, but
- 32:06Speaker 1: you have less execution. So this makes you less willful, right,
- 32:11Speaker 1: And this is not a good thing that we have
- 32:13Speaker 1: too much information. You need more focus because there's no
- 32:16Speaker 1: leader in the history of time that we considered great.
- 32:20Speaker 1: They became great because they had too much information. No,
- 32:23Speaker 1: when we look through our history, they had focus. Right,
- 32:26Speaker 1: I would will let you have less, but have an understanding,
- 32:29Speaker 1: and understanding is more powerful than knowledge. If everybody had
- 32:33Speaker 1: an early understanding on bitcoin, right, you had early knowledge,
- 32:37Speaker 1: early information.
- 32:38Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you at surface level like right, But if.
- 32:41Speaker 1: You understood it, you would have put all chips in
- 32:43Speaker 1: every single day and you'll be a billionaire, right right,
- 32:46Speaker 1: And that would have been the only piece of information
- 32:48Speaker 1: you really would have needed to understand that, and that
- 32:51Speaker 1: was the most powerful and necessary for you to become
- 32:53Speaker 1: a billion there be able to change and impact your
- 32:56Speaker 1: whole reality. So is it? Oh? I learned this one
- 32:59Speaker 1: on YouTube, this one and this one, and I listen
- 33:01Speaker 1: to this influence and this thought leader and this one.
- 33:03Speaker 1: I'd rather you not listen to me and listen to
- 33:05Speaker 1: the person that has something objectively different. But at least
- 33:08Speaker 1: you could become an expert at what they're doing versus
- 33:11Speaker 1: we have a disagreement. So Key said do this, they
- 33:14Speaker 1: said do this. I don't know what to do.
- 33:16Speaker 2: It's almost like people who read too many self help books,
- 33:19Speaker 2: if that makes sense, because if you read, like, you know,
- 33:22Speaker 2: ten financial guides or whatever, like ten how to get richer,
- 33:27Speaker 2: you know, it's almost like you know, for example, what's
- 33:29Speaker 2: the old dude, who's who's been. He's got a radio
- 33:32Speaker 2: show forever, bald glasses, old white cat, and his whole
- 33:36Speaker 2: entire thought process is carry no debt. Oh you know
- 33:41Speaker 2: who I'm talking about. He's got a radio show all
- 33:43Speaker 2: over the country and.
- 33:44Speaker 1: It's on Gordon or you know something like that.
- 33:46Speaker 2: He's got he's got like a redneck accent kind of Yeah,
- 33:50Speaker 2: I know you're talking about. I know, just like you
- 33:51Speaker 2: can watch him and he's and he's telling you one thing.
- 33:54Speaker 1: And you watch, you know, the dude to rot rich
- 33:57Speaker 1: that poor a. Yeah, use debt to your advantage. And
- 34:01Speaker 1: there's multiple routes. It's really just mastering your route though,
- 34:05Speaker 1: right you feel me. It's not that both ones can work. Yeah,
- 34:08Speaker 1: not neither are wrong, right, but it's like, but which
- 34:11Speaker 1: one are you go do? I can best become an
- 34:13Speaker 1: expert as something. Right. If you become an expert, you
- 34:16Speaker 1: become valuable during this time and you don't have to
- 34:19Speaker 1: chase money. Money comes to you because you have a value. Right,
- 34:22Speaker 1: So expertise number one. That means you got to focus
- 34:25Speaker 1: and get a depth of knowledge. Right now, people have
- 34:27Speaker 1: a spread of knowledge, right, but they don't have any depth.
- 34:30Speaker 1: They can't teach it, They can't break it down simply
- 34:32Speaker 1: to get other people to understand. Now, I look at myself, like,
- 34:35Speaker 1: all right, what am I expert in? Right? Right? And
- 34:39Speaker 1: when you become an expert, it is what other people
- 34:40Speaker 1: consider you to be an expert in. Right, I would
- 34:43Speaker 1: consider you to be an expert in journalism and podcasts
- 34:45Speaker 1: right right? In music and media. Essentially, I say.
- 34:49Speaker 2: The only thing in life I'm an expert at is
- 34:51Speaker 2: probably just my entire life has been hip hop as
- 34:54Speaker 2: a child, you know.
- 34:55Speaker 1: But people not an expert on nothing, Like I.
- 34:57Speaker 2: Could name random bench players from the nineties. You know,
- 35:00Speaker 2: I'm a basketball fanatic. So outside of that, you know,
- 35:03Speaker 2: we figured out the podcast and radio radio Yeah shit,
- 35:06Speaker 2: I'm in one hundred markets, you know. Radio is what
- 35:07Speaker 2: I'm been doing so I sixteen.
- 35:08Speaker 1: But look at that. That means that now, when you
- 35:10Speaker 1: learn new information, you can filter it based on your
- 35:13Speaker 1: expertise and why it's valuable to you for sure. Right,
- 35:16Speaker 1: So when I was younger, I used to read different
- 35:18Speaker 1: books because my filter was, all right, how can I
- 35:22Speaker 1: use this as some sort of value? Though? So if
- 35:24Speaker 1: I can't utilize it even in a conversation, I might
- 35:27Speaker 1: learn philosophy just to bring it up. But I was
- 35:29Speaker 1: always giving myself an intent with everything that I was doing,
- 35:32Speaker 1: and I don't think a lot of people have good
- 35:34Speaker 1: intent right now, So therefore they're not learning for a reason, right,
- 35:39Speaker 1: They're just learning to learn, right, you feel me? And
- 35:41Speaker 1: that's where you start structuring it, saying that, no, I
- 35:44Speaker 1: rather you learn some basic skill sets and master those,
- 35:47Speaker 1: rather than you just trying to pick up everything in
- 35:49Speaker 1: the world and you become a master at nothing.
- 35:52Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, if you're not a master of anything,
- 35:55Speaker 2: and what are you.
- 35:55Speaker 1: Doing, Yeah, become a master at canvall. That's more important
- 35:58Speaker 1: than you being a jack of all information. But you
- 36:01Speaker 1: can't do anything with it, you know what I'm saying, Like,
- 36:04Speaker 1: master the one single app and let that be your
- 36:06Speaker 1: niche right now, and everybody who wants to come for
- 36:09Speaker 1: that particular niche will find you.
- 36:11Speaker 2: You said something on Twitter a couple of weeks ago
- 36:15Speaker 2: that I thought, was it just hit man? You said
- 36:18Speaker 2: being asleep as the new woke, and that I felt
- 36:23Speaker 2: that shit because I feel like the pendulum has like,
- 36:27Speaker 2: like if you think about everything in the last six
- 36:29Speaker 2: seven years, right, it almost feels like it's swung so
- 36:35Speaker 2: far the other way that you're desensitized. Like even with
- 36:40Speaker 2: some of this mass deportation shit, right, it's like there's
- 36:43Speaker 2: a conversation of like, obviously there was an issue at
- 36:45Speaker 2: the border, the shit was popping there. I think that's
- 36:48Speaker 2: a different conversation or yeah, we got to have the
- 36:51Speaker 2: border under control because you know, whether or not you
- 36:55Speaker 2: think that nation should have borders or not, you know,
- 36:58Speaker 2: there was a mass bucks of human beings coming into
- 37:01Speaker 2: a place that might not have been ready to receive
- 37:03Speaker 2: them infrastructurally, compared to like, hey, it's turned into like
- 37:11Speaker 2: it kind of being okay to be like I just
- 37:15Speaker 2: see this like anti immigrant narrative. That's just like everyone's
- 37:20Speaker 2: kind of desensitized to that. Does that make sense?
- 37:23Speaker 1: I think we almost insensitize to everything at this point
- 37:26Speaker 1: in time. A robot could walk down the street and
- 37:28Speaker 1: we'll go about our day.
- 37:29Speaker 2: Well, it's like the alien stuff. No one seems to
- 37:31Speaker 2: have cared about these alien hearings that happened.
- 37:33Speaker 1: They don't.
- 37:34Speaker 2: It's like it too.
- 37:35Speaker 1: It's what we consider fast consumption culture, right, and fast
- 37:39Speaker 1: culture is what I call it as well, where we
- 37:41Speaker 1: learn about something but then something new happens, and then
- 37:44Speaker 1: we lose that attention. So it's like if you look
- 37:47Speaker 1: at AI. If the average person studies deep seek right now,
- 37:50Speaker 1: right this new competitor or chat GPT and you master it,
- 37:55Speaker 1: that's a million dollar skill. But instead you keep jumping
- 37:58Speaker 1: to the next thing. It's more important to master one thing,
- 38:02Speaker 1: get a depth of knowledge and focus on that and
- 38:06Speaker 1: then shut out everything else. You don't need to know
- 38:08Speaker 1: all the news. Why do you need to keep up
- 38:11Speaker 1: the news? Have you misinformed? Right? Because now you're operating
- 38:15Speaker 1: off legacy media agenda. Find somebody that you trust as
- 38:18Speaker 1: a voice and just use them to learn when you
- 38:20Speaker 1: want to keep updates with things. But otherwise, if you're
- 38:24Speaker 1: just constantly consumed in the news, you're going to be fearful,
- 38:27Speaker 1: number one, and that fear is not good when you
- 38:29Speaker 1: want to go do stuff yourself. Right, So now you're like, well,
- 38:33Speaker 1: why should I do anything in the world about the end?
- 38:35Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I don't know what's about
- 38:37Speaker 1: to happen. And now you find yourself research and conspiracies
- 38:40Speaker 1: that have nothing to do with any of your ghosts. Right,
- 38:43Speaker 1: if it's not going to empower you, then it's not
- 38:45Speaker 1: worth anything to you. And I think that that's another
- 38:48Speaker 1: dangerous thing is that we are losing our ability to
- 38:52Speaker 1: respond to things. We just react. If you're going to
- 38:54Speaker 1: look on Instagram and YouTube, its just reaction videos, right,
- 38:58Speaker 1: But ability need the response is responsibility. So we're lacking
- 39:03Speaker 1: our ability to respond, which means we're not being strategic
- 39:06Speaker 1: with anything. We're just reacting. And that's not us actually
- 39:10Speaker 1: taking in any information and said all right, this is
- 39:13Speaker 1: the best way that I want to respond now, right,
- 39:15Speaker 1: this is how we move forward. That's a growth thinking.
- 39:18Speaker 1: We have a low level thinking right now in the
- 39:20Speaker 1: world where I have a book that I'm writing and
- 39:24Speaker 1: it's about how high level conversations can change the world
- 39:28Speaker 1: right and transform your own world. And it starts off
- 39:32Speaker 1: talking about our neo cortext which is the part of
- 39:34Speaker 1: a brain that allows us to have these kind of conversations, right,
- 39:37Speaker 1: our critical thinking, right, our ability to think beyond nuance.
- 39:42Speaker 1: And that's when we become more aware and conscious. And
- 39:45Speaker 1: the reality of it is is most people not activating.
- 39:48Speaker 1: They neo, right, They neo to escape the matrix neo cortex.
- 39:52Speaker 1: We becoming devolved, not evolved. When you focus on survival
- 39:56Speaker 1: You're just trying to get through today. Right, when you
- 39:59Speaker 1: focus on evolution, you want to advance in life. So
- 40:02Speaker 1: coming from where we come from, coming from Oakland and
- 40:04Speaker 1: Saint Louis, it's all survival. And I seen a brother,
- 40:09Speaker 1: I believe it was a brother, Jeff Gordon. He was
- 40:10Speaker 1: having a conversation on how most of our languages around survival.
- 40:13Speaker 1: How you doing. I'm just getting through it, you know
- 40:15Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What's going ain't nothing to maintaining. You
- 40:18Speaker 1: feel me, I'm just surviving, just barely getting to it,
- 40:21Speaker 1: like all of this is just barely. No, it had
- 40:23Speaker 1: to change to evolution, you know what I mean. I'm
- 40:26Speaker 1: growing daily, You feel me. I'm going to move. Everything
- 40:28Speaker 1: is upward. You feel me like we don't even have
- 40:31Speaker 1: to vocabulary for growth. And when you get around different people,
- 40:34Speaker 1: what you start doing is you start taking their habits
- 40:37Speaker 1: and speaking like them. And when you speak like them,
- 40:39Speaker 1: you move like them, you think like them, You start shifting.
- 40:42Speaker 1: You feel me. So the game is how do we
- 40:45Speaker 1: go from survival to evolution?
- 40:47Speaker 2: Right?
- 40:48Speaker 1: How do we go from thinking local which is localism,
- 40:51Speaker 1: then you got nationalism national pride of your country, then
- 40:53Speaker 1: globalism thinking about the world, what's going on in Palestine
- 40:56Speaker 1: and Congo. Then you got cosmism, right, our connection to
- 41:00Speaker 1: the cosmos, which is what our ancestors all had. All
- 41:04Speaker 1: our ancestors had an attention and the consciousness connected to
- 41:07Speaker 1: the cosmos. They all charted the stars, they all moved
- 41:11Speaker 1: with agriculture and astronomy. Right. There wouldn't been no ancient
- 41:14Speaker 1: kymm at land of the Blacks unless they understood the
- 41:17Speaker 1: star positions and when the water was going to come
- 41:20Speaker 1: in and the cycles, and then they was able to
- 41:22Speaker 1: create more food for their people and grow their population.
- 41:25Speaker 1: But we don't have that no more. We sold local
- 41:27Speaker 1: and local activity, local problems that keeps us emotionally down
- 41:32Speaker 1: all day worrying about this bullshit on the news.
- 41:35Speaker 2: Facts. What would you say in your opinion? Was like
- 41:39Speaker 2: the number one reason why, because if you asked me
- 41:46Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, I'd assume that, like, you know, the
- 41:49Speaker 2: Trump shit was over with, you.
- 41:50Speaker 1: Know what I mean, Like, nah, I knew it was
- 41:53Speaker 1: gonna happen, But I'm just walking said a long time
- 41:55Speaker 1: ago he gonna be the last president.
- 41:57Speaker 2: I'm just curious, like you know, because you know, I
- 42:01Speaker 2: feel like there's obviously there was. There was a lot
- 42:06Speaker 2: of shit that, you know, I feel like the Democratic
- 42:08Speaker 2: Party talked about earlier, it's not really the party that
- 42:10Speaker 2: you know that at least I remember, you know, I
- 42:13Speaker 2: remember it used to be like, yo, George Bush and
- 42:15Speaker 2: Dick Cheney are bad. But now Liz Cheney's on the
- 42:17Speaker 2: on the campaign, and now they're rolling out Bill Clinton
- 42:20Speaker 2: to yell at Muslims in Michigan and tell them how
- 42:22Speaker 2: they're like, It's like, how of course y'all are going
- 42:25Speaker 2: to lose, you know.
- 42:27Speaker 1: But it was wild and Obama and Clinton I think
- 42:29Speaker 1: they did more damage to the campaign than anybody.
- 42:31Speaker 2: It was bad. Yeah, it was really bad. Dude.
- 42:34Speaker 1: Then look the nigga Biden was given. He wearing goddamn
- 42:38Speaker 1: mega hats.
- 42:39Speaker 2: Put the maga hat on his wife, or the red dress.
- 42:42Speaker 2: I think all that shit was on purpose.
- 42:43Speaker 1: I do too. I think I believe all that this
- 42:45Speaker 1: is a coordinative body at least, because here's the thing.
- 42:49Speaker 1: If you take history and you erase the word republican
- 42:52Speaker 1: a Democrat, and you put government, you get a clear
- 42:54Speaker 1: picture of the world. A problem is that they get
- 42:57Speaker 1: to shift the branding to one side of the each time,
- 43:01Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they're not clear differences in value. But
- 43:04Speaker 1: then there's one entity, and then there's the people. And
- 43:07Speaker 1: then when the people can see wait a minute. Ever,
- 43:09Speaker 1: since they had the Bacon Rebellion early hundreds of years ago,
- 43:12Speaker 1: there was white slaves, I mean white people, poor people,
- 43:16Speaker 1: and there was black slaves that was going to revote
- 43:18Speaker 1: against the government. Together. Then the government was like, man,
- 43:22Speaker 1: we can't have these things working together, So how do
- 43:25Speaker 1: we set whites apart? So they started spreading the knowledge
- 43:28Speaker 1: of course that blacks on feria, which is why they
- 43:30Speaker 1: should stay slaves, right, And then we're going to give
- 43:33Speaker 1: y'all more economic opportunity. We go create this middle class,
- 43:36Speaker 1: so y'all come rock with us, right, And then whites
- 43:38Speaker 1: was like, it was nice knowing you niggas, but hey,
- 43:41Speaker 1: y'all supposed to be slaves. It supposed to be broke.
- 43:43Speaker 1: We not to we white men. So then of course
- 43:47Speaker 1: you get this white class. And then this is where
- 43:50Speaker 1: they play this game of how do we keep the
- 43:52Speaker 1: people divided so we can continue to rule both of us.
- 43:54Speaker 2: As opposed to like it being a classiest thing. It's like, right,
- 43:58Speaker 2: it's like, how can we make people forget that both
- 44:01Speaker 2: of y'all are poor. The only thing that you guys
- 44:03Speaker 2: might disagree on is whether a trans person should play
- 44:07Speaker 2: sports or you know. It's like right, and we're gon
- 44:10Speaker 2: we're gonna throw this in conservative value. So we're gonna
- 44:12Speaker 2: throw this ball over here. That's like this crazy, like
- 44:16Speaker 2: just you know, only affects a half a percentage of
- 44:19Speaker 2: the population, but everyone's gonna fight over it. And then
- 44:22Speaker 2: while we're over here, we're we're taking away the ability
- 44:25Speaker 2: for you to purchase a home.
- 44:26Speaker 1: It's genius for both of y'all if they were black
- 44:29Speaker 1: or white.
- 44:29Speaker 2: If you're both are poor, you're both fucked because now
- 44:31Speaker 2: you guys can't even buy a fucking house.
- 44:33Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that. Most people again, you go
- 44:36Speaker 1: to that asset price is right, houses continue to go up.
- 44:39Speaker 1: People can't afford the American dream.
- 44:41Speaker 2: That the American dreams cooked.
- 44:43Speaker 1: So what are they doing, the rich and the large
- 44:46Speaker 1: corporations buying up all the houses?
- 44:48Speaker 2: Yes, right, fuck Larry fig And.
- 44:50Speaker 1: The prices continue to go up, but your wages are
- 44:53Speaker 1: not going up, right, So then they focus on ways
- 44:56Speaker 1: suppressed and how we not pay you more? We borrow money, right,
- 44:59Speaker 1: and we want to pay off our desks from these
- 45:01Speaker 1: assets that we bought. The assets continue to go with
- 45:03Speaker 1: we're getting richer, right, and we make your money, But
- 45:06Speaker 1: we don't want to make less money by paying our
- 45:08Speaker 1: people more. So let's do automation. Let's bring in AI
- 45:12Speaker 1: to handle this right, and then what happens. The productivity
- 45:16Speaker 1: decreases number one, when people can't focus. So when we
- 45:19Speaker 1: talk about an attention economy, when you got too much information,
- 45:22Speaker 1: it stills your focus and then it decreases your ability
- 45:25Speaker 1: to be productive. So productivity in America has been decreasing
- 45:29Speaker 1: over the years. So that means that human capital, your labor,
- 45:32Speaker 1: workforce is worthless, right, because people are not producing as
- 45:35Speaker 1: much value. They just said gen Z's are lazy. They
- 45:38Speaker 1: don't want to work, don't want that your work, you
- 45:40Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They don't even want to be
- 45:43Speaker 1: men and women. They want to be Z and Z.
- 45:45Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. A It's different out here.
- 45:47Speaker 1: So that means let's bring in AI robots right to
- 45:52Speaker 1: replace the productivity of humans and make it more efficient.
- 45:56Speaker 1: Because we don't have to pay them more, we can
- 45:58Speaker 1: still make more. Then let's bring in immigrants because we
- 46:01Speaker 1: got a baby bust in America were not making enough babies.
- 46:04Speaker 1: Whites are gonna be a minority. Okay, Then that triggers
- 46:07Speaker 1: a fear forget get Well, now we're fearful, forget what
- 46:10Speaker 1: we did to people. We gonna be a minority. And
- 46:12Speaker 1: what would the minorities do to us if they empower?
- 46:15Speaker 1: If we treated them like this? So number one, stop
- 46:17Speaker 1: teaching them history so when they got damn get in power,
- 46:20Speaker 1: they don't look at us as an enemy. And what
- 46:22Speaker 1: you did to us, we're gonna do to y'all. This
- 46:24Speaker 1: all of this fear going on, so they have to
- 46:26Speaker 1: continue to suppress the wages, produce more AI robotics. The
- 46:32Speaker 1: robots is gonna become so goddamn efficient you're gonna need
- 46:34Speaker 1: no humans. But this is the way that it always happened.
- 46:37Speaker 1: You go from people as a labor for as horses,
- 46:40Speaker 1: you go from trains and automation. Then you got the
- 46:43Speaker 1: digital age, and now it's saying, forget humans, let's just
- 46:46Speaker 1: go completely with robots and keep all of the money.
- 46:49Speaker 1: May make everything so expensive that you don't own nothing
- 46:52Speaker 1: and be happy. And then what happens when people don't
- 46:55Speaker 1: believe in their ability to make money in the system
- 46:58Speaker 1: and they think it's rigged.
- 46:59Speaker 2: They gamble right, they're they're fucking with meme coins and
- 47:02Speaker 2: parlays exactly.
- 47:04Speaker 1: So our generation, you know, previous the boomers and early millennials,
- 47:09Speaker 1: they had what lottery tickets and power balls. Now it's
- 47:12Speaker 1: the parlay, you feel me, and it's the mean coin.
- 47:15Speaker 1: So gabling is going to continue to go hide because
- 47:17Speaker 1: you don't believe in the system. And then they putting
- 47:19Speaker 1: tarifts on everybody, who's gonna make everything more expensive for everybody.
- 47:23Speaker 1: So it's interesting that society can't see this. And this
- 47:26Speaker 1: is why I tell people, like I got my book here,
- 47:29Speaker 1: our goals, Like when you look at the Black Panther party,
- 47:32Speaker 1: they had the free food. To me, the free food
- 47:34Speaker 1: is getting financial literacy right now, learning the skills that
- 47:37Speaker 1: nobody can take away from you that allows you to eat.
- 47:40Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you look at financial the financial system
- 47:43Speaker 2: as a game, it's just with anything, man, if you
- 47:46Speaker 2: just learn the rules to the game, I mean, it's
- 47:49Speaker 2: and and you know, the information is there.
- 47:52Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent there and it's not hitting from you.
- 47:54Speaker 1: And this is what I tell people. It's like Trump
- 47:56Speaker 1: ain't gonna stop you from reading a book. Right, he
- 47:58Speaker 1: ain't gonna stop you from learning this skill. You're gonna
- 48:00Speaker 1: stop you from starting a business. You gonna be so
- 48:03Speaker 1: fearful and so worried about what's happening in the world.
- 48:05Speaker 1: You're not even building your own world, right, Your world
- 48:08Speaker 1: is whatever you pay attention to.
- 48:09Speaker 2: And then you get to the point where now you're, well, yo, man,
- 48:13Speaker 2: Like that's the thing is like the blaming mindset. Well,
- 48:16Speaker 2: Trump's the president.
- 48:17Speaker 1: You know.
- 48:18Speaker 2: It's like you got you gotta say, like, like at the
- 48:20Speaker 2: end of the day, whether it was Biden, whether it
- 48:22Speaker 2: was COMMLA that won, whether it was Trump at won again,
- 48:25Speaker 2: it's like, okay, how do you save yourself? Well, also,
- 48:28Speaker 2: how do you say, okay, well, I know if this
- 48:30Speaker 2: person's winning, how do I set myself up for success
- 48:34Speaker 2: regardless of who the president is? But okay, cool, I
- 48:36Speaker 2: know if Trump won, this is what's gonna happen. Maybe
- 48:39Speaker 2: I should invest in these type of stocks, Maybe I
- 48:41Speaker 2: should look into these types of.
- 48:42Speaker 1: You know, see, that's knowing how to respond right right,
- 48:45Speaker 1: that's knowing how to plan and think strategic ahead. So
- 48:49Speaker 1: if you're going to be strategic, that means you got
- 48:51Speaker 1: to be a general on your own life. Life is war. Yeah,
- 48:53Speaker 1: I mean you gotta take a step back and think
- 48:55Speaker 1: about how the hell do I secure my future and
- 48:57Speaker 1: my children? You feel me if you get I promise,
- 49:00Speaker 1: if you can get focused during this time, you will
- 49:02Speaker 1: be one of the top one percent.
- 49:04Speaker 2: And it's it's funny too because even on the crypto's front,
- 49:06Speaker 2: like you know, even just getting like I think what
- 49:10Speaker 2: happens with krypto. And it's probably better too because in
- 49:14Speaker 2: order to even get into the mean coin games.
- 49:18Speaker 1: Whole another conversation.
- 49:19Speaker 2: No, but there's but there's so much like it takes
- 49:24Speaker 2: a few hours. But it's not easy to just sign
- 49:27Speaker 2: up on an app, is what I'm trying to say.
- 49:28Speaker 2: Like you got to have like a coin base, you
- 49:30Speaker 2: gotta have a crypto dot com wallet too, and then
- 49:32Speaker 2: you gotta have a DeFi wallet, and it's just it's
- 49:35Speaker 2: just not the easiest thing. For like, for example, the
- 49:38Speaker 2: day that the trump point point went crazy, if anybody
- 49:41Speaker 2: opened their phone and was like, oh, how do I get?
- 49:43Speaker 2: It wasn't just like you could just get. You kind
- 49:46Speaker 2: of already had to be in that time. And by
- 49:49Speaker 2: that it's exactly exactly.
- 49:51Speaker 1: And by telling you buy you liquiddity for anybody to
- 49:54Speaker 1: dump on you.
- 49:54Speaker 2: We we woke up in the morning and I was like, damn,
- 49:57Speaker 2: it's twenty four bucks. I'm like.
- 50:01Speaker 1: But then it went up to like sixty.
- 50:02Speaker 2: I was like, fuck.
- 50:05Speaker 1: But it's better to not get in at twenty four right,
- 50:08Speaker 1: then to not know when is going to drop and
- 50:10Speaker 1: then lose.
- 50:11Speaker 2: All your right because that's when it happened.
- 50:13Speaker 1: Look at the mean coin, right. Mean coin thing is
- 50:15Speaker 1: the attention economy on steroids. It's basically, instead of you
- 50:19Speaker 1: do a podcast, you got a funnel, right, somebody you
- 50:23Speaker 1: gather attention. That attention is converted into a product. Somebody
- 50:27Speaker 1: you capture that audience information. Then you retarget them and
- 50:31Speaker 1: try to get them to buy something. So now you've
- 50:33Speaker 1: made some money off that attention. Mean coins are based
- 50:36Speaker 1: on narratives, right, So what's going on in pop culture,
- 50:41Speaker 1: whatever that's happening, they will make a mean connected to that.
- 50:44Speaker 1: So Donald Trump just said, let me mean myself, So
- 50:47Speaker 1: somebody that goddamn become president. And then as all that
- 50:50Speaker 1: attention is ciphering over here, attention then becomes currency. Everybody
- 50:55Speaker 1: pour that energy into it. I get paid billions because
- 50:58Speaker 1: how much is that attention worth, right, So when we
- 51:01Speaker 1: look at it through the reality in the dark side
- 51:03Speaker 1: of the mean coin, is that a lot of these
- 51:05Speaker 1: are inner circles, right of people. Yeah, so it'll be
- 51:12Speaker 1: somebody that say, all right, I'm gonna drop a coin,
- 51:15Speaker 1: and behind the scenes though I hit you up, cav right,
- 51:18Speaker 1: I say, look, I'm gonna drop a coin. I'm gonna
- 51:20Speaker 1: need you to push this out. Now, you got a
- 51:22Speaker 1: Telegram group already allocated, some money's towards you. I'm gonna
- 51:25Speaker 1: tell you when it's gonna drop, how it's gonna drop.
- 51:27Speaker 1: Y gonna get in. Yeah, you jump into your Telegram group,
- 51:31Speaker 1: somebody in your telegram group because you a og in there.
- 51:34Speaker 1: Then they send it to they telegram group, then they
- 51:36Speaker 1: send it to Twitter. Right now, all of these is
- 51:39Speaker 1: layers of people who getting it earlier later right, like
- 51:42Speaker 1: by the time you see it on Instagram is late.
- 51:44Speaker 1: So once you understand that the game is rigged, that
- 51:47Speaker 1: they have pay an influencer on Twitter five thousand dollars
- 51:50Speaker 1: or something to tush it hot too a coin, that
- 51:53Speaker 1: one goes up. But the thing is is you're not
- 51:56Speaker 1: getting early, then you late. If you don't have some
- 51:58Speaker 1: sort of insider track. You don't have a bot that
- 52:01Speaker 1: is sniping it for you instantly, which is what they
- 52:03Speaker 1: do to automate. And all these things that I'm saying,
- 52:06Speaker 1: I'm sure the average person don't know, and it's letting you.
- 52:08Speaker 1: You should rewind this and say, okay, let me go
- 52:10Speaker 1: to deep seek, let me go to open ai, and
- 52:13Speaker 1: let me put this information in their study and then
- 52:15Speaker 1: ask them to break it down to me. If you
- 52:17Speaker 1: don't have the focus to do that right now, promise
- 52:19Speaker 1: you that shit you about to do the rest of
- 52:21Speaker 1: your life right and the things you about to do
- 52:23Speaker 1: tonight is not that important. It's not more important than
- 52:25Speaker 1: you making a million dollars right or one hundred thousand
- 52:29Speaker 1: dollars as from your new skill set and new information,
- 52:32Speaker 1: which is just you getting focused. Now. A lot of
- 52:35Speaker 1: these nineties nine percent of them are rug pulls and scams.
- 52:38Speaker 1: But here's the beauty of it is that bitcoin is
- 52:41Speaker 1: gonna be bitcoin. You go buy it and it's just
- 52:43Speaker 1: an exchange of currency, right. And what you're doing is
- 52:46Speaker 1: you're increasing your purchasing power, right because as bitcoin goes up,
- 52:50Speaker 1: your purchasing power goes up. So if inflation goes up,
- 52:52Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, right, because you're still able to buy
- 52:55Speaker 1: the same amount or more of things based on the
- 52:57Speaker 1: amount of money you have. So if you work at job,
- 53:00Speaker 1: whether you're getting fifty thousand dollars, whether you getting one
- 53:02Speaker 1: hundred thousand, yo, go number one is develop a skill set,
- 53:06Speaker 1: learn stocks, learn trade in, learn something. If you can,
- 53:09Speaker 1: you got that focus or do it long term. If
- 53:12Speaker 1: you don't, that just means you ain't got no discipline,
- 53:15Speaker 1: which is fine. That means you know what you need
- 53:17Speaker 1: to do.
- 53:18Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five. Man, it's got to be the word
- 53:21Speaker 2: of the year has got to be disciplined.
- 53:23Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, it has to be discipline and focused because
- 53:26Speaker 1: without it you can't do nothing. You got to have
- 53:28Speaker 1: that will to power. And so for me, it's like
- 53:31Speaker 1: study the game, study what the wealthy people are doing,
- 53:34Speaker 1: and do what they go do during this time.
- 53:36Speaker 2: Even if like the fair minimum, you know, I mean,
- 53:39Speaker 2: I'm sure you're paying attention to this, but if you
- 53:41Speaker 2: would have followed Nancy Pelosi's trades were published ten days ago,
- 53:46Speaker 2: I mean, and you just mirrored what she did.
- 53:48Speaker 1: You can copy trade and then just help it automatically.
- 53:51Speaker 1: Think she's up one hundred and eighty percent, Nancy go
- 53:53Speaker 1: keeck her inside of money, Na's money different and so.
- 53:56Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's like that's something that's as
- 53:58Speaker 2: easy as like, hey, if you got to extra two
- 54:00Speaker 2: under bucks a month, just follow these. I mean there's
- 54:04Speaker 2: the informations there.
- 54:05Speaker 1: But then I'm gonna say this though, if you think
- 54:08Speaker 1: it's worth money, then why not educate yourself? Might not
- 54:11Speaker 1: be fully engaged educated. I understand it's not easy. Who
- 54:16Speaker 1: cares about the easy part? And this is why I
- 54:18Speaker 1: tell if you a man, why you looking for easy?
- 54:21Speaker 1: Then don't try to seek an easy life. He tried
- 54:24Speaker 1: to figure out, all right, what is something that's worth doing?
- 54:27Speaker 1: You feel me if you're a man, like that's too hard.
- 54:29Speaker 1: That's your emotions. When you were thinking, man, I don't
- 54:33Speaker 1: our rise above emotions and still get it done. I'm
- 54:35Speaker 1: not looking for easiness. That ain't That ain't the development
- 54:39Speaker 1: of a man. If your father said, man, I ain't
- 54:41Speaker 1: do it because it wasn't easy, you look at it
- 54:43Speaker 1: even like he was soft.
- 54:44Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's so many things like even with
- 54:46Speaker 2: the pitcoin and any there's ways you could leverage if
- 54:49Speaker 2: you if you think you can read the chart and
- 54:51Speaker 2: you could long and short like preposterous amounts of equity
- 54:55Speaker 2: of those coins that you don't necessarily have.
- 54:58Speaker 1: Yeah, you can, but again it's gambling. I mean, it's
- 55:01Speaker 1: only gambling if you don't have the knowledge and the strategy.
- 55:04Speaker 1: If you educated, it's no longer gambling, because anything you
- 55:07Speaker 1: do is gambling. If you don't have knowledge. You can
- 55:09Speaker 1: start a clothing company, you don't know what the hell
- 55:11Speaker 1: you doing? For sure, you just go get a shirt
- 55:13Speaker 1: printed up. You ain't got no marketing background, right, you
- 55:15Speaker 1: don't know how to do no branding, build a world,
- 55:17Speaker 1: build a funnel. That's gambling.
- 55:19Speaker 2: You feel me.
- 55:19Speaker 1: If you're a rap artist and you make a song
- 55:22Speaker 1: and you just push it out there, no marketing, no nothing,
- 55:25Speaker 1: you planning on it, no plan that's gambling. You you
- 55:29Speaker 1: just waiting for luck to have it. For sure, everything
- 55:31Speaker 1: is gambling. When you ain't got no knowledge, get you
- 55:33Speaker 1: some knowledge, didn't get you some money?
- 55:34Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the institution? What is it saying?
- 55:40Speaker 1: What's the name of a Trump's the Department of Government official?
- 55:44Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, the crypto the crypto company is a
- 55:48Speaker 2: part of the world Finance.
- 55:49Speaker 1: Thing, the liberty World Fighter.
- 55:50Speaker 2: Yeah, they're buying up so much ethereum.
- 55:53Speaker 1: Well think about it. So number one, US companies and
- 55:57Speaker 1: coins will go do well with him talking about all
- 56:00Speaker 1: of this less focus on America, right and he was
- 56:03Speaker 1: trying to put tariffs on all these countries like I
- 56:05Speaker 1: heard today, was talking about putting tariffs on nvideo and
- 56:08Speaker 1: different things of that nature. US companies gonna do very
- 56:11Speaker 1: well right now. Also, US cryptos so ones that are
- 56:14Speaker 1: ISO twenty two compliant, right, meaning that these are the
- 56:19Speaker 1: ones that are following regulations right already. So if you're
- 56:24Speaker 1: looking at your xrps, you're looking at your ethereums, and
- 56:27Speaker 1: your of course ethereum is like silver and XRP, I
- 56:30Speaker 1: mean bitcoin is like gold. Then you got your solanos.
- 56:33Speaker 1: Then you got things like inside that industry they call narratives,
- 56:37Speaker 1: which would be like real world assets r WA tokens,
- 56:40Speaker 1: so those are things that's connected to real world things.
- 56:42Speaker 1: Then you got AI tokens. It's hot right now, so
- 56:45Speaker 1: eventually that's go boom. So what you would do is
- 56:48Speaker 1: go on YouTube university, go on coin market cap, go
- 56:51Speaker 1: study quantum resistant ones, quantum machines is coming. All you
- 56:55Speaker 1: need is a little information to become a master at
- 56:57Speaker 1: that you don't have to win off everyone, pick an
- 57:00Speaker 1: industry and say, you know what, I'm just focus on
- 57:03Speaker 1: AI coins and figure out if I can be the
- 57:06Speaker 1: best person to figure out which AI coins is gonna work. Right,
- 57:09Speaker 1: But before that, I think it's worth everybody because I
- 57:12Speaker 1: think what we try to do sometime keV is that
- 57:15Speaker 1: we speak to the lazy person out there, the person
- 57:17Speaker 1: that we know that's not really gonna get educated, so
- 57:19Speaker 1: we try to give them the lowest way to get in.
- 57:21Speaker 2: Like, hey, look, just right, I did this, like in
- 57:23Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, I bought Ripple right, and I just bought
- 57:27Speaker 2: it because the homie was looking at me like, look, bro,
- 57:28Speaker 2: I know you ain't in a crypto, but just and
- 57:31Speaker 2: I was like all right, bet.
- 57:32Speaker 1: But you know the reason that's dangerous because if they
- 57:34Speaker 1: get in and they win the way Tokonomi's worth psychology,
- 57:37Speaker 1: they got rewarded, so it makes them want to do
- 57:39Speaker 1: it again. They got a good entry. If they get in,
- 57:41Speaker 1: they lose. Right now they emotionally disconnected because now they're fearful.
- 57:45Speaker 1: So now they feel punished, so now it makes them rejected.
- 57:49Speaker 2: Happened to me when look I had ripple and it
- 57:51Speaker 2: went up to three three something, and my boy was like,
- 57:54Speaker 2: it's gonna go up to five, don't sell. And then
- 57:56Speaker 2: it crashed see, and I was like, man, this crypto
- 58:01Speaker 2: for sure.
- 58:01Speaker 1: So I would rather you get educated on why it
- 58:04Speaker 1: happened and understand cycles and then you'd be like you
- 58:06Speaker 1: know what, I'm just go.
- 58:07Speaker 2: Hold just think about twenty twenty the pandemic hits, and
- 58:09Speaker 2: there was that. I remember I was sitting in downtown
- 58:11Speaker 2: LA in my car and I saw that bitcoin was
- 58:14Speaker 2: like sixty something. It was like under seven grand, and
- 58:18Speaker 2: I was like, damn, but I was, I was, I
- 58:21Speaker 2: was tripping. I was like, nah, man, the fucking world
- 58:23Speaker 2: might in this pandemic.
- 58:26Speaker 1: The biggest reason not taking no risks.
- 58:28Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, I could have really like you know,
- 58:30Speaker 2: but like you said, it's like at the end of
- 58:31Speaker 2: the stem, at the end of the day, man, it's
- 58:33Speaker 2: very very like educate yourself. They're like as like you said,
- 58:38Speaker 2: it's like they're trying to devalue your labor. So whatever
- 58:42Speaker 2: you you know, if you are a if you work
- 58:45Speaker 2: at a retail store, if you work at you know,
- 58:47Speaker 2: if you do construction, like they're trying to devalue those jobs.
- 58:51Speaker 2: You know, there's certain jobs too that they say are
- 58:53Speaker 2: like AI proof, like whether it's a plumber or you know, electrician,
- 58:57Speaker 2: shit like that, But there is money out There's what's
- 59:01Speaker 2: AI proof.
- 59:02Speaker 1: Is being a human being, right, anything that's not robotic
- 59:05Speaker 1: and automated.
- 59:06Speaker 2: Right now, I'm so glad the AI rapper failed. The
- 59:10Speaker 2: member dad they had, they had that.
- 59:13Speaker 1: King Malonea's still dropping them old school classics.
- 59:16Speaker 2: But it's crazy, right, It's like it's like that kind
- 59:19Speaker 2: of shit. It's like if you're in the art like that's.
- 59:21Speaker 1: But even the rap game is so like it's interesting
- 59:25Speaker 1: because you know, you had the whole Kendrick and Drake thing,
- 59:28Speaker 1: But I don't feel like nobody picked up the mental
- 59:30Speaker 1: sense then, and it's a blank opportunity. And I think
- 59:33Speaker 1: part of the reason is I don't think a lot
- 59:35Speaker 1: of people understand the consumption habits of people right now,
- 59:38Speaker 1: right Like, I think what you should be focusing on
- 59:42Speaker 1: is how do you create a soundtrack for people? Right right?
- 59:45Speaker 1: Because this is how people curate their music selection based
- 59:47Speaker 1: on their mood. Right. They look at their life as
- 59:50Speaker 1: a movie. They are content creator, right. If you're gonna
- 59:53Speaker 1: put music as a soundtrack behind what you're doing. So
- 59:57Speaker 1: you're looking at your movie and your content creat and
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: who is making music to how I feel in this
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: mood that I'm creating. Brands are doing that right, They're
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: creating mood boards and figuring out how do we build
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: a brand that makes it feel like it's a mood.
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: So when you want to be in that mood and
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: connected to that feeling, you buy my brand. It's the
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: same thing with music. And I think the music industry
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: you have the artists and what they're not connected to
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: is good people. That's good with marketing, right. You look
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: at Kendrick. He got pg lang right, and the people
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: that's connected to him are great at marketing. Sure, they're
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: great at building a world, understanding that mood and the
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: psychology and the symbolism that goes into it. And if
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: you lazy as an artist, you go lose. So I
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: would say you curate yourself as this character, right, and
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: you build this world and then you make music for
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: that world. So when anybody want to feel attached to that,
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: they go listen to your music.
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: Yeah. I think, you know, at the end of the day,
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that I think the good thing that came
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: out of this beef was not like us. I mean,
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: I think You'rephouria is the best song out of all
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: of them. Are Euphoria to me, like the most. It's
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: almost like a freaking like a Quentin Tarantino movie that
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: you watch a few times and you're like, and then
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: you watch it like the tenth time.
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: In your life.
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: Yeah, oh shit, like he really predicted all. But like
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: you said it, you know, I always say this, like
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: I always had this this critique about Drake, and you know,
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: Drake is the biggest hit maker ever, you know, wherever
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: you want to put him on your all time list,
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: I think it's once he sued you gotta be like
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: dog some whole shit. But nonetheless, I hated that Drake
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: you never knew how he felt about anything.
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: Yeah, I tweeted that once, And then when.
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: I've been saying this for years, I'm like, you don't
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: know how Drake feels about you anything.
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: Be at the top and not give commentary and narrative
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: and introspection on anything. Right, it says that I have this,
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: I have this position that historically everybody else that's been
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: in this position that does that. But I decided not
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: to take that position because you want to be safer
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: the brands, So that makes you super commercial and that
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: opens you up to the attack because being a top
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: of hip hop is a responsibility. You feel me, like
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: cultural responsibility. You feel me when things happen in the world.
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: I ain't saying you gotta goddamn become TUPAC, but you
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: gotta say something, say something because music curates, music narrates right,
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: music is inspirational, aspirational, this is where we're going. That's
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: a good thing that the Kendrick Lamars of the world
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: have the ability to do. Right. He creates a soundtrack
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: to the movement of what I'm seeing or what's happening culturally.
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: Then he can get back to partying. You feel me.
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: It's like you go to an event to Pimp a
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: Butterfly and you're like, you know, I know a lot
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: of people during like twenty twenty where like, Yo, this
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: album is aged because people gave him shit about that album.
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: That's my favorite.
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: But it's like how much a dollar really costs? Think
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: about this though.
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: When I was growing up and I don't know how
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: old you are, but I'm thirty eight, but like you know,
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: there was always there was always like conscious level hip
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: hop at a pretty high level of like even though
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: rockets records and like common and most deaf and those
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: guys were like technically underground, they were still going gold.
- 1:03:08Speaker 2: They were still going platinum. I don't know who who
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: that is right now? Like that's like like who's somebody
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: who has like made I mean shout to Macklamore, who
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: made a song about what's going on in Palestine, but
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: somebody who's made like I guess the new version of
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: protest music. I think Killer Mike's there. I think the
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: Killer Mike's are og.
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: I'm talking about the last great song was Fucked Donald Trump.
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: Protest music for.
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: Sure, because that song actually was getting played. Yeah, people were.
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: You go to the club and.
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: You would hear fuck Donald Trump right like meaning like
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: it was a soundtrack to a movement. You feel me
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: like what's the sentiment of the crowd. But I feel
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: like a lot of rappers don't want to go on
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: to stand on something. They don't want to say something
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: and didn't have to stand because they they're so you know,
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: well destroys the music though, because it's the honesty, the
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: authenticity that we love. I rather you tell me. Look, man,
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: I took a check from Kamala, but I ain't really
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: like it. Some of the things that Donald Trump says,
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: I'm kind of with some of the values. You feel
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: me on the line, you feel me and you live,
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: and it's like, I want to hear what's actually on
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: your mind.
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: When Ushup belonged at the Kamala thing, I was like,
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: didn't this dude just say on TV he wasn't gonna
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: endorse CNY, But like just.
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: It's something like he was trying to get rid of
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: ditty rooms or something.
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: It did like you said, right, It's like almost like
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: I just had this conversation. Are you familiar with Channel five,
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: the kid Andrew who goes out and does like the
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: He's got a dope YouTube channel. He's really really popular.
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: But we were talking about how like there's this weird
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: intersection of like people who were Bernie Sanders supporters and
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: then those people voting for Trump in twenty twenty four,
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: which is like crazy if you think about like how
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: there's like this like weird venn diagram where there was
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: enough of them to like agree on whatever intersected.
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: Well, you gotta say, if you're gonna study history, you
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: gotta study the Southern strategy, and the Southern strategy was
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to missalign and realign. How
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: do when a base becomes unaligned with their base, it
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: gives you an opportunity for you aligned with yours, right,
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: And so it's how the Republicans is figuring out how
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: to steal the Democratic base. Democrats will go so far.
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: What would all black men have been complained about these
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: last years is the emasculation of the black man? Who
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: do we attribute that to the Democratic Party? So anybody
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: that speaks to those values and made them feel like
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: you are aligning with mine now, right. But then the
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: Southern strategy goes towards this fact of how do we
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: say nigga without saying nigga? Right? I forgot the guy
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: and people go study the Southern strategy. Look it up
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: on YouTube and you will see him. And he was
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: basically saying, well, we can't say the nigga word no more.
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: So we need to figure out a way to affect
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: black people and have cold words without having to say it.
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: So in one of the things he talked about tasts
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: because he said, well, it's going to have the we
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: if we're doing tax cuts only for the rich, and
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: black people are the poorest, then it's going to fit
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: them the most. Right. They will put together all of
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: these things right. It's like the new way of saying
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: DEI right? Or all these things? Or how do we
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: figure out to affect these niggas without having to say nigga?
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: And basically how do we stay white supremacists in power?
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: And it's changing landscape because they understood that they couldn't
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: do it direct no more. These are not my words.
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: You can go study it and see. This has been
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: a strategy that they've been working on imploring for a
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: long time. And my thing, Kevin, is the fact that
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: they laid out and said we're gonna have a first
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: hundred days. The way to respond to that is, Okay, well,
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: these gonna be our first hundred days. It's not to complain,
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: it's not the protest. It's to respond. It's not to react,
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: it's to respond, that's your first hundred days. Cool first
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: hundred days. We don't like corporations because we feel like
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: when they say FDI, they saying f black people, whether
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: that's true or not, because black men don't feel so
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: connected to it. Mostly because we don't know what we
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: actually got from it, right, right, But whether that's true
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: or not, we still get to utilize that moment to say, Okay, well,
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: we want to boycott y'all anyway, because it's better for
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: us to buycot with each other. So we got the boycott.
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: We don't buy from y'all, but the bycot we buy
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: for themselves, and we say, let's become pro sumers, let's
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: produce what we consume. This is the greatest opportunity in
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: Black American history for there to be a mass movement
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: of realigning right with the radical thought processes of our
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: own economic rights, our own economic vehicles, and where we
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: create an economic network. We got digital nation states already.
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: The problem, though, keV, is the fact that we don't
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: all agree. So I'll call out all black organizations, from
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: the NAACP to the Black CAUCUSS, to the NABJ, to
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: all of these different and I say, okay, why don't
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: we sit down and have a round table. Trump don't
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: stop us from doing that. So you're telling me we
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: can organize a protest, but we can't sit down with
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: each other and come up with an agenda. How come
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: we got the Divine Nine, which was started from the
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: Boulet secret organizations based on Scoll and Bone activity. You
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: got the Black Masons, you got the muslim You got
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: all of them. So if I want to create change
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: in America, I would go to all the leaders. Then
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: I would get the people in every organization to ask, Yeah,
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: why isn't the Black church sitting down with the Black Muslims.
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: If we figure that this is our biggest incredible threat,
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: if it is as bad as you saying, and this
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: is the most radical shift that ever happened, then you
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: not willing to do nothing radical to respond, right. That
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: lets me know that either you're sold out, you don't care.
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: Only time you do care, right is when you feel
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: like you need to save face in front of the people.
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: So you go be a Al Sharpton and go do
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: a protest inside the Costco to bycop with them, which
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: means absolutely nothing at all. That generation is just overw
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: and dead because young people don't respect that shit. So
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: for me, it's calling out us. Right. The ex King
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: and President came out and said, way y'all crying it.
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: He was talking to his.
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: People, Oh I saw the Kenyan presidents. Yeah, he was
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: like yo, let's build her own like the US don't
- 1:08:52Speaker 2: like that, man.
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: When they put sanctions when Trump originally put sanctions on
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: China where they can buy chips, so Carley, right, But
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: what they did to say, Okay, well, we're about to
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: focus money towards how do we do it without y'all?
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: And you get deep seek right right? An advance model
- 1:09:09Speaker 2: fucked up? N vidio stock.
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: What does that represent? When I look at that, you
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: feel me like it gives you a blueprint? Man, listen,
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: if you can't goddamn drinking they found, make your fountain better,
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you can't go to
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: those schools, make your school better, you feel me? Prove
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: we don't need them, they need us. Because what happens.
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: Americans number one, are the biggest consumers of the world,
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: but Black Americans are the biggest consumers in America. If
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: we shift our economic activity towards ourselves and creating our
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: own vehicles, the problem is we afraid to think long term.
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: It's gonna take some time. But so what this how
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: you set up your children? Why would you want to
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: have children in the world that you can't protect, that
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: you can't say you know what when they was tripping.
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: We built our own thing, and this is what we're
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: proud of. That's why I got my show coming up.
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: Save yourself and think about it like this, because it's
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: a message to us. Save yourself. Right. If you see
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: a man, grown man drowning in the poor right and
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: nobody's helping him, why you think that is he's panicking,
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: he's drowning, you know what I mean, he's tripping, and
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: everybody just looking at him, Like, bro, say yourself because
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: the whole time the water, not even that got there deep.
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: All you have to do is stand up for himself.
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: And this is the analogy I see with us. We
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: act like we drowning when we not. All we got
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: to ever really do is stand up. But we act
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: like our legs don't work, we don't want to get
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: to moving. So I see it as a viable option
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: we got. When I talk about blockchain technology, I'm not
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: saying it from a capitalist stand view. I don't care
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: if we don't own it. If they can create mean
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: coins that circulate hundreds of millions of dollars among them,
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: then how come we can't do that? Then we raise
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: funds fast by major assets that we now own right
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: and do for stuff. How can we create create our
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: own First of all, you study Estonia. Estonia is one
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: of the most digital nations in the world because they
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: see where the world is going or they prepared for it.
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: They responded, Now you can create a business in like
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: ten minutes. You can become a citizen of Estonia and
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: then contribute to their GDP right digitally. If you take
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: that as a stance, and all these groups create their
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: own digital nations and then they're buying physical assets, then
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: they got their own currencies attached. Because we live in
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: a time of blockchain, why are we not doing that?
- 1:11:22Speaker 2: Because we're not focused and most people still don't even understand.
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: Block We don't need everybody, We only need the leaders
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: to understand it. I think the idea of trying to
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: get people to unify, we look at it as if
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: we need forty five men black people to come together.
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: You don't need that. You going to take again these organizations.
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: You take the top black organizations, bring their presidents and
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: CEOs together and have a roundtable. If they don't want
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: to come to the roundtables because they sold out and
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: they owe another community more than they owe their own
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: So it's about allegiance. I don't need unity. I don't
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: even want everybody's unity because some people ain't worth shit
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: right now, and I know they.
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: Also there's real commerce and a real economy to the
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: division and the fear that gets.
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: They don't get paid to make solutions. It's like the
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: homeless problem in California. They get home.
- 1:12:08Speaker 2: Everybody's money, he continue to prepare you my god. Yeah,
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: there's so many people's salaries that are just.
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: Our efficiency should be consistently increasing year over year and
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: we should be getting better. That represents our growth. You know.
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: What I thought was just like a surface level, kind
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: of shallow perspective of like or the depiction of like,
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: hey man, when Jimmy Carter's funeral happened and Brock and
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: Trump were just laughing their ass off, I'm like, yo, Like,
- 1:12:37Speaker 2: if this dude is like truly like the end of
- 1:12:42Speaker 2: democracy and truly like as evil and bad and you
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: know this fear porn that's been being pushed, you shouldn't
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: be laughing with him. That's why I fuck with Michelle,
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: because Michelle was like, I'm not going.
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: I mean I've seen Michelle feeding uh George Bush mint
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: or something one time as well though. And I remember
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: when George Bush the Katrina president. You feel me, the
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: Katrina president, that we act like he wasn't you.
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: I mean, how many how many people in the Middle
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: East were just.
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: He went out there and just murdered and bond them in.
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: And this is what when you look at that picture
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: number one, Obama come out and scolding black man, and
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: then months later at the Donald Trump win laughing with
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: him and then not clearing it up at all at all.
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: You feel me it's disrespectful. But what it really is
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: is a clear picture of America. I think it's the
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: Maraica we wanted to be.
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: What it is level like guys, left wing, right wing,
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: Saint berg bro, here's what it is.
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: You don't think behind the scenes they not civil. Yes,
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: generals give the at least the greatest opportunity to meet
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: and have conversations, right because it's on the book. Everybody
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: know what's happening, so they get the past messages. Otherwise
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: it's very hard. They got to go through back channels
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: and back channels, right, So it's very interesting. But again
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: it's a beautiful time to save yourself, right, and what
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: to save yourself. Look like it means like educating yourself
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: and real strategies, right, being able to come together and
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: sit down and talk about what we're about to do
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: the next hundred days and executing that plan. Right. You
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: don't have to do everything in front of the public,
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: have it private, right, you know what I'm saying, Like
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: there's there should be coordination and organizing. Whether I don't
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: care who sides you fall along, everybody should agree with
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: the messages of save yourself because that's how this administration
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: is moving. We're gonna tell you what we're doing. Now
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: it's up to you to respond. This how we're gonna
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: move the economy, right, this is what we gonna get
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: rid of, this is what we don't like, and then
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: like all right, y'all got y'all playbook. This is how
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: we respond. Now, what do you?
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: I got a question randomly because I know Trump had
- 1:14:37Speaker 2: always had been floating getting rid of the Board of
- 1:14:41Speaker 2: Education nationally and leaving it up to the states. I'm
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: just curious from your perspective because then you've got states
- 1:14:47Speaker 2: like Florida who are obviously gonna, you know, do the
- 1:14:50Speaker 2: sand to stay, you know, take out all kinds of shit.
- 1:14:53Speaker 2: But do you think it's a good or a bad thing?
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: If it's like up to the States, what the curriculum
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: is that kids are learning.
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: I think it's both. I think I think the response
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: should be right. I've always said digital education is a
- 1:15:06Speaker 1: new Harvard People don't always like my takes on education though,
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: but it is what it is. Like right now on TikTok,
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: there's like they got this thing called human Hellman Talk
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: right where essentially a bunch of professors are signed up
- 1:15:19Speaker 1: to teach one on one classes, right like history one
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: on one, a Black history one on one, a financial
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: what's the problem with doing that? What's the problem with
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: taking the responsibility in educating ourselves? Because they never go
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: teach you certain things anyway. The education system has not
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: been the one that created the prideful black American. It
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: hasn't created you know. And number one, depending on where
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: you live at right there's not even enough finances for
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: you to get a proper and good education. They're creating memorization.
- 1:15:48Speaker 2: That's really all it is. Because now you have to
- 1:15:50Speaker 2: just pass the task.
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: And that's not good enough for the world we live
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: in no more.
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: And then there's no uh, there's no national implement implementation
- 1:15:57Speaker 2: of you know, learning financial literacy.
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: I don't believe people care for it. I think they
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: think they do, or a lot of time people miss aligned. Right.
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: If that's the case, I would have had all kinds
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: of donors lined up to be like keys, how can
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: we amplify your platform. I ain't never had a black
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: leader or organization ever come to me with any proposition whatsoever.
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: So to me, it gives me I got my relationship right?
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: Is a love and hate when that when something happens,
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: how don't we respond accordingly? It's because we keep begging
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: for somebody to save us, Like we ain't got no
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: power when they cut off the education pipeline, then how
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: come we don't create a national organization to educate ourselves
- 1:16:33Speaker 1: and we identify teachers, philosophers and curriculum to figure out,
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: all right, how do we have our own? No black
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: child left behind? You feel me? Because education system don't
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: work for us anyway. We are at the least educated.
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: We look at the health department, we're the most unhealthy
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: and healthy and like we don't want radicals. That's the thing.
- 1:16:50Speaker 2: It's like, it's like that's the case for it it's like, well, guys,
- 1:16:53Speaker 2: we're kind of getting smoked in the education.
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: Look, I brun this textbook because it's a textbook we
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: made when me and my brother Quaid code And as
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: I was saying earlier, we had the free food, this
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: is the new free food. I want to be able
- 1:17:05Speaker 1: to get all of our knowledge in textbooks in every
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: black home right to where we have the knowledge and
- 1:17:11Speaker 1: skill sets to do for self. And no, now we
- 1:17:14Speaker 1: don't have no excuses. Now, we just need to sit
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: down as a family and learn and then execute. Because
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: when you got the knowledge that's like in this book,
- 1:17:20Speaker 1: we can do it. So we got a nonprofit to
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: where either we're able to sell these or we work
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: with people that will help us get them to people
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: for free. Right, whether it's university students, whether it's just
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: the average home. How do you get financial literacy inside
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: the home because not even cent of our problems is
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: based on money.
- 1:17:38Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's you know you said we're
- 1:17:40Speaker 2: kind of I mean, we are a content society now,
- 1:17:44Speaker 2: which is why it's dope, and you know, market mondays happens.
- 1:17:46Speaker 2: And then you've got guys like on your leisure where
- 1:17:48Speaker 2: crack under yourself, and it's like, there's really no excuse.
- 1:17:53Speaker 2: There's no excuse.
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: We just got to talk to people because.
- 1:17:55Speaker 2: Maybe you don't want to read a textbook. Yeah, guess
- 1:17:57Speaker 2: what all that shit is there?
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Like.
- 1:18:00Speaker 2: I just set my mom because my mom's you know, older.
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: But the textbook is just not to cut you with.
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: But the textbook is just to go along with your digital.
- 1:18:08Speaker 2: But it's like it's like at the end of the days,
- 1:18:10Speaker 2: it's like, yo, how do we make sure that's why?
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: How do we make sure we got no goddamn excuses
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: and we can manage a process? Because let's say if
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: I say, okay, well everybody got the textbook, now you
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: join the class. Okay, turn the chapter forty two. You
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: feel me? And then why you WoT to go over stocks?
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: And how to do or or why to invest in
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: bonds or how to dollar cost average and learn options
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: and exactly what's QQQ whatever it is this is. This
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: is not a competition to anybody's program. This is complementary
- 1:18:42Speaker 1: to it. For sure, you feel me, And the goal
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: is why don't we just have solutions like this, Let's
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: get goddamn textbooks of our own history in every household
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: and then have a digital component.
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: You don't have to that you don't have to depend
- 1:18:54Speaker 2: on the education system.
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: Well, what does college have the most? They have the
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: network and the experience. So now we need to figure
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: out how do we create those experiences because fifty percent,
- 1:19:05Speaker 1: according to Robert Smith, fifty percent of Black wealth goes
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: towards college debt. Right, so we spend so much money
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: getting an education as outdated that we can't even utilize
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: to get ourselves ahead, which is dangerous. I want to
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: figure out how we can be more efficient. Because he
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: gave all that money to the HBCU. But my thing is,
- 1:19:24Speaker 1: was all of those college students actually learning skill sets
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: that can help you nation build, that are actually going
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: to be valuable in the future. Because I would rather
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: incentivize and say at that time every student who's learning
- 1:19:37Speaker 1: engineering and AI and data analysts, so that in the
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: future you have a large group of students that do
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: have no debt and they're getting the most important jobs
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: in the country. Right, That to me is strategic thinking,
- 1:19:49Speaker 1: not just paying off the debt. But how do we
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: incentivize and say we need more engineers? Right? We need
- 1:19:55Speaker 1: to have our own category of people so that we
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: have everything that we need and then how do we
- 1:20:00Speaker 1: figure out how to educate that group in that class,
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: because I don't need you to just walk across the stage.
- 1:20:05Speaker 1: We need the people with the right valuable skills.
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that, like you said, the experience is more.
- 1:20:12Speaker 2: It's like more about that or the societal acceptance of well,
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: I got a degree. Yeah, not to say that it's
- 1:20:19Speaker 2: a bad thing to get a degree, but it's like
- 1:20:20Speaker 2: at the end of the day, like you said, there's
- 1:20:22Speaker 2: no boundaries to like, then you.
- 1:20:24Speaker 1: Got to stop with anations. Free education is direct correlated
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: to of course how much money you make. Right, there
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: is a direct correlation. But we have to understand also
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: now it's a non traditional education that you can get
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: as well, and we have to recognize that. And a
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: lot of times we use those as like badges, right
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: against somebody that we consider to not be educated. It's
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: just these fraternities. I went to this school, you didn't
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: go to school. I'm better than you. But it couldn't
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: be true because I didn't finish college, right, and I
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: make more money nine nine percent people who did. So
- 1:20:57Speaker 1: what makes me special? Right, It's the fact that I
- 1:21:00Speaker 1: decided to educate myself. I think education is a lifelong
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: journey for sure. Right to go to school and learn chat,
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: GPT and deep seek and how to create AI agents
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: right now. I mean you could take somebody's course on it.
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: But the biggest thing is what we missing is just
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: discipline to manage ourselves through the process. Yep, that's what
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: it really comes down.
- 1:21:19Speaker 2: One of my favorite I was fucking with RFK tough
- 1:21:23Speaker 2: when he was running his third party campaign because I
- 1:21:26Speaker 2: just liked his perspective on a lot of things. You
- 1:21:30Speaker 2: had my favorite interview with him. I appreciate it. It was dope.
- 1:21:35Speaker 2: It was I think it was like three hours. It
- 1:21:38Speaker 2: was really long. I saw you just tweet yesterday the
- 1:21:42Speaker 2: day before you treated make America healthy again. I fuck
- 1:21:46Speaker 2: with RFK, what are your thoughts on because I look
- 1:21:48Speaker 2: at the Trump thing is like you got to kind
- 1:21:50Speaker 2: of like R take the wins and it's like, well,
- 1:21:53Speaker 2: if RFK is the you know, like I feel like
- 1:21:56Speaker 2: he's a genuine guy. He's a very interesting guy. He's
- 1:21:58Speaker 2: had an interesting past. But you sat with him for
- 1:22:01Speaker 2: a while, like, what are your thoughts on him? And
- 1:22:04Speaker 2: being a part of I guess kind of making that decision.
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: I think what he it's very interesting. I think his
- 1:22:12Speaker 1: goal was strategically put himself in position to leverage that
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: influence that he had as he was creating a base
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: while he was running for president, whether he was going
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: to talk to Kamala or whether he was going to
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: be talking.
- 1:22:23Speaker 2: To Trump, and Kamala I think declined, Yeah.
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: And he declined. I believe Trump had been asking him
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: before to come with him, and I believe he was
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: declining at the time, and then he realized that, Okay, well,
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: if the Democrats are not gonna have me at all,
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: they're not even gonna speak to me.
- 1:22:38Speaker 2: I mean. And they were actively weaponizing like everything they
- 1:22:41Speaker 2: could against him.
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: Yeah, And when we sit down, it's interesting because again
- 1:22:45Speaker 1: going back to the high level conversations, society is not
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: used to critical thinking and independent thinking, so they weaponized
- 1:22:54Speaker 1: statements that he said. Right, And when you go look
- 1:22:57Speaker 1: at a lot of those people in Congress, and those
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: politicians would speak of course they're funded by big pharma, right.
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: And if America is a very unhealthy place already, you
- 1:23:07Speaker 1: will want radical change. The last person they had in
- 1:23:09Speaker 1: there doesn't look like somebody who should be held in
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: a health department whatsoever. I think you should number one,
- 1:23:16Speaker 1: have to be healthy to run a health department.
- 1:23:18Speaker 2: Fair enough.
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: That's a that's a key because it was the trend. Yeah,
- 1:23:23Speaker 1: the d I don't know what it was, but it was.
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: It was. It was a transformer. Without shay Luba, it
- 1:23:28Speaker 1: was different. And I think that the goal should be,
- 1:23:32Speaker 1: how do we disrupt this industry? Big Farmer got so
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: much power and they in so many people pockets that
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: these politicians can't think for theirselfs if they wanted to.
- 1:23:40Speaker 1: They puppets the things that they were talking about against them.
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: You know, Robert F. Kennedy met with the nation in
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: Islam and he gave high praises an honorable minister a
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: little far come, which is a rare thing. Right, most
- 1:23:50Speaker 1: black politicians would never even do that. Can you get
- 1:23:53Speaker 1: some respect from me automatically? When you're working with the FBI,
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: I mean not the FBI, FOI in Los Angeles, right
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: to get information about the research behind these vaccines and
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: what's possibly in them. Then of course there's just a
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: research about all these artificial ingredients and chemicals that we intake.
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: Then we have, of course, we are the most acceptable
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: population black people. We have specifically, black men have the
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: highest number when it comes to cancer and heart disease
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: and blood pressure and depression and suicide and all these things.
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: So you should want to see a radical change first, right.
- 1:24:38Speaker 1: That means there should be a war on these things.
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: American people should be This is to me, the most
- 1:24:43Speaker 1: important campaign out of all of them, right, make America healthy. Now.
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: I think that I don't think that all of these
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: departments are truly aligned. And want, of course Robert F.
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: Kennedy to be in there, because it would be the
- 1:24:54Speaker 1: most radical thing that comes over for sure. It just
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: reps the hell out the money. Yes, but he said
- 1:24:59Speaker 1: some things that black people have been saying for a
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: long time. He said that our immune systems are better now.
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: This is what we like to always believe anyway. But
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: it was funny because that became the hot topic, like
- 1:25:10Speaker 1: this man lost his mind. But he was citing a
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: study from Poland. And Poland does more studies than most places.
- 1:25:16Speaker 1: I think they like number eighth in the world. But
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: the funny thing is people will say, well, ninety nine
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: percent of our genome is the same, but it's the
- 1:25:24Speaker 1: zero point one percent that is a lot, right, it
- 1:25:27Speaker 1: goes from bone dincity, it goes to a fast twitch
- 1:25:29Speaker 1: muscle response you feel me. It even goes to our
- 1:25:33Speaker 1: response to medications and things of that nature. So there's
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: a lot of truth to what he was saying as
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: far as our immune system, our neuromelanin, our melanin. So
- 1:25:42Speaker 1: I would like to see scientists refute him, not politicians.
- 1:25:45Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing, is like it felt more of
- 1:25:48Speaker 2: like a you know, especially like when I saw the
- 1:25:52Speaker 2: Bernie thing, because I love Bernie. You know, Bernie's burning.
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: Somebody call Bernie be capping to Bernie be fakan.
- 1:25:57Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I would say the last four you
- 1:26:00Speaker 2: have been disappointing with some of his voting sides.
- 1:26:02Speaker 1: But in terms of like Bernie is definitely on the
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: Zionist side too, the RFK side, right, It's like he
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: is for sure. I asked him about that.
- 1:26:14Speaker 2: Yes, oh man, But it was interesting to see that confirmation.
- 1:26:20Speaker 2: And I'm like, yo, like, y'all are really just barking
- 1:26:24Speaker 2: down on this full despite you guys, not like you
- 1:26:28Speaker 2: guys are like like democrats should be in theory aligned
- 1:26:32Speaker 2: with most of the things he says, but he's on
- 1:26:34Speaker 2: the other side.
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: Now, yeah, well we'll see. Is I think they don't
- 1:26:41Speaker 1: care about the American people. They care about winning this
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: war of power. Yeah. Right, So even if the Trump
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: did something they agree with, they'll never ever, ever will
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: tell you. And this is my problem with both sides.
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: When Trump does something, I don't care if you are
- 1:26:53Speaker 1: in the Maga colt. If he does something you don't
- 1:26:56Speaker 1: agree with and you can't speak out right, that makes
- 1:26:58Speaker 1: you a slave yep, makes you weak mind us. Right.
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: I respect those that say I voted for the guy,
- 1:27:04Speaker 1: but I don't respect what he did with this right
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: they And that's where you see the noise of a
- 1:27:09Speaker 1: person that can actually think. But beyond that, that's dangerous.
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: You feel me and it's weak minded. So I don't
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: care if you're a Republican or Democrat. If you can't
- 1:27:18Speaker 1: point out good when it's good or bad when.
- 1:27:20Speaker 2: It's bad, that you're a cult member.
- 1:27:23Speaker 1: And when Donald Trump comes out there and say stuff
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: like it's DEI and what you want me to do?
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: Swim in the water. And when we talk about meeting
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: with the people the crash site is what it really
- 1:27:34Speaker 1: does is it makes people less empathetic. See, a good
- 1:27:38Speaker 1: leader makes people more human, right, you do those things
- 1:27:42Speaker 1: not because you want to, not even for the logic
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: of it. It's so that you exemple our humanity. So
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: we treat each other with that same respect and dignity
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: and honor and empathy as well. And so this is
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: what I'm seeing in leadership. I'm seeing a lack of that,
- 1:27:56Speaker 1: completely pushing contempt and conflict amongst their basis, which is
- 1:28:02Speaker 1: exciting more civil war.
- 1:28:04Speaker 2: Yeah, like the lack of well, the actually is not
- 1:28:07Speaker 2: even a lack. There was zero, zero Palestinian representation at
- 1:28:11Speaker 2: the DNC, which that believe it was four days and
- 1:28:15Speaker 2: it was like, like you said, empathy, humanity, It's like,
- 1:28:19Speaker 2: how is there Like, well.
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: You know, all of the activists they decided to be
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: quiet during the campaign of Kamala Harris because they believe
- 1:28:26Speaker 1: she was gonna get in there and possibly do something,
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: even though you know her husband is Jewish. I don't
- 1:28:30Speaker 1: see she was gonna do anything. She constantly said, I'm
- 1:28:32Speaker 1: not changing nothing, no matter who's gonna be president.
- 1:28:35Speaker 2: Now, what's that?
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: What they did is you can't be revolutionary in one moment,
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: but now I'm political right now, I'm not gonna say
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: nothing if you can't hold feet to the fire of
- 1:28:44Speaker 1: the person because the way you vote radically is that
- 1:28:48Speaker 1: you put the person that you were more equipped to
- 1:28:50Speaker 1: fight in office right, and then once they get in office,
- 1:28:54Speaker 1: you fight them right to keep their promise to you.
- 1:28:58Speaker 1: And people forget that relationship with politicians. So if you
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: voted for Donald Trump, it doesn't mean you now bowed
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: down to him. You now have to fight him to
- 1:29:06Speaker 1: keep his promises that you were aligned with when he ran.
- 1:29:10Speaker 1: And that is the regardless of what kind of leadership,
- 1:29:13Speaker 1: whether it was Kamala or him, it would have been
- 1:29:15Speaker 1: the same fight to keep that politician aligned with the
- 1:29:18Speaker 1: things that you aligned with or the people have to
- 1:29:21Speaker 1: have it or else.
- 1:29:23Speaker 2: Do you think there would have been a I'll call
- 1:29:25Speaker 2: it a for face value cease fire if Kamala would
- 1:29:31Speaker 2: have won.
- 1:29:31Speaker 1: Nah, I don't even think she would have tried to
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: really push for one, and I don't think people would
- 1:29:36Speaker 1: have cared. You know what I'm saying. Trump is the
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: person that tries to prove out his power and leadership,
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: but then he makes deals behind the scenes. He talking
- 1:29:43Speaker 1: about pushing him over to Egypt, even if not gonna
- 1:29:44Speaker 1: have the people.
- 1:29:45Speaker 2: That's the new ship. Yeah, that's the new shit. And
- 1:29:47Speaker 2: then we said today then at that.
- 1:29:49Speaker 1: As a beachfront property that they can go clear out
- 1:29:51Speaker 1: and take.
- 1:29:51Speaker 2: Over and put Trump Tower. I mean even today he
- 1:29:54Speaker 2: said something about they said that if Natan y'aho violates
- 1:29:58Speaker 2: the ceasefire, there won't be tariff's on Israel because he's
- 1:30:01Speaker 2: got to do what he's got to do. And to me,
- 1:30:02Speaker 2: it's like, I mean that just kind of that.
- 1:30:04Speaker 1: Gives you no reason. That means there's not a real
- 1:30:06Speaker 1: cease fire.
- 1:30:07Speaker 2: It's not real, no consequence because if it was a
- 1:30:09Speaker 2: real ceasefire to be consequences on both sides.
- 1:30:11Speaker 1: That means there's a negotiation to go along. Just make
- 1:30:14Speaker 1: me seem like I got the power so that I
- 1:30:17Speaker 1: can leverage this period of time right until y'all decide
- 1:30:20Speaker 1: y'all want to fire back and take over, right so
- 1:30:23Speaker 1: I can show stability and control as a powerful leader.
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: It's the same thing with TikTok. You can't download TikTok
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: because it's still banned, right, But in lou you're going
- 1:30:32Speaker 1: to do this negotiation to try to figure out which
- 1:30:35Speaker 1: American country, I mean company can get controlled. So what
- 1:30:38Speaker 1: I need y'all to do is shut it down for
- 1:30:40Speaker 1: a day and then thank me for negotiating when you open.
- 1:30:43Speaker 2: The line gets his name.
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all strategy. He played it. He's a negotiator.
- 1:30:48Speaker 1: He is a businessman. He know how to play the game.
- 1:30:50Speaker 2: He is a master manipulator of that.
- 1:30:53Speaker 1: Every politician is. That's the whole thing. And I just
- 1:30:57Speaker 1: try to understand is why does the average person think
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: that billionaires, right, and these huge tech elites have their
- 1:31:07Speaker 1: best interest at heart when historically you never believe that. Ever,
- 1:31:11Speaker 1: that's always been a fight. And if you're a so
- 1:31:14Speaker 1: called patriot of this country, your job would be to
- 1:31:17Speaker 1: keep them aligned. Your job would be to keep them
- 1:31:20Speaker 1: aligned with the so called constitution. Your job would be
- 1:31:24Speaker 1: to keep the people in line with the threat of
- 1:31:28Speaker 1: revolt that if you all don't put this country first
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: and put the freedoms of the people first, not to
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: push the vision amongst the people. If you push the vision,
- 1:31:40Speaker 1: you're a terrible leader, full stop. Right. Elon Musk goes
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: on his platform every single day and push the vision.
- 1:31:46Speaker 2: Yeah, and he does it in this dog whistle way
- 1:31:48Speaker 2: where he'll reply to a tweet.
- 1:31:50Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's very three posted you saying it yes,
- 1:31:54Speaker 1: you can't hide by somebody else repost. You say it,
- 1:31:57Speaker 1: because then to me, that's cowardly. If you're the richest
- 1:32:01Speaker 1: man in the world, so call league, and you have
- 1:32:03Speaker 1: one of the most powerful platforms in the world, just
- 1:32:06Speaker 1: say it. But what it does is it's a whistle
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: to a base of people, right that do think like
- 1:32:12Speaker 1: that one hundred percent. You're telling them that, yeah, I'm
- 1:32:15Speaker 1: with you German, Germany, is time for your to be
- 1:32:18Speaker 1: great again. You know what I'm saying. America's time to
- 1:32:20Speaker 1: be great again. South Africa, it's time for be great again.
- 1:32:23Speaker 1: You're talking to these people. What are you doing? You
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: igniting a national white base right to say that we
- 1:32:31Speaker 1: have to rally together because it's about to be dangerous
- 1:32:33Speaker 1: times to us. It is a signal around the world.
- 1:32:37Speaker 1: If you can't obviously see that, right, you will see
- 1:32:41Speaker 1: it very soon. It's gonna be very hard for you
- 1:32:43Speaker 1: to defend right the people that you defend now, it's
- 1:32:47Speaker 1: gonna be blatantly obvious and the only thing that's gonna
- 1:32:50Speaker 1: stop them.
- 1:32:51Speaker 2: Do you think that his salute was the Nazi salute
- 1:32:53Speaker 2: on purpose? You think he cognitively did that on purpose?
- 1:32:55Speaker 1: Man, the one thing about me is I got excellent vision.
- 1:33:00Speaker 1: You know, I can see with my eyes in my mind,
- 1:33:02Speaker 1: I don't need nobody to interpret nothing from me. I'll
- 1:33:05Speaker 1: be a goddamn fool. You know what I'm saying. If
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: you walk in the room, you see a girl kiss
- 1:33:09Speaker 1: another dude and she said, no, I wasn't kissing him.
- 1:33:12Speaker 1: You know how bird Man saw you wasn't kissing Wayne
- 1:33:14Speaker 1: disrespect We Oh, well, we ain't just see that. I
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: saw what I saw. The most dangerous thing is somebody
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: tell you didn't see what you saw, right, And I
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: think that you have to think about it from that standpoint.
- 1:33:26Speaker 1: You saw it with clear evidence, right, But they have
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: the ability to tell you what you see with your eyes,
- 1:33:32Speaker 1: what you hear, what you sense is not real. So
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: now you can't trust yourself. Now you have to wait
- 1:33:38Speaker 1: for somebody else to interpret reality for you, right, And
- 1:33:42Speaker 1: you're gonna make excuse for everything. It's funny. I seen
- 1:33:47Speaker 1: Andrew Schultz talking about this, and he was explaining how
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: it would have been better if he would have just
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: apologized for it essentially versus act like it didn't happen, right,
- 1:34:01Speaker 1: And I've seen other people say the same thing and
- 1:34:03Speaker 1: Eli has yet to do that.
- 1:34:05Speaker 2: Because even could just say, hey, this is what it was.
- 1:34:08Speaker 2: I was in that moment, I have crazy hand gestures. Instead,
- 1:34:12Speaker 2: he kind of like on Twitter, he'll retweet like he retweeted,
- 1:34:15Speaker 2: I think Kamla did something at the fire or anything
- 1:34:18Speaker 2: that looks like it.
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: That's stupid. What they do is when something happens like that,
- 1:34:22Speaker 1: they run a psychological program and put out certain words,
- 1:34:25Speaker 1: like the word awkward. So then you will see every
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: respondent and everybody that talks about it using a word
- 1:34:30Speaker 1: it was an awkward thing. Why is everybody using the
- 1:34:32Speaker 1: same exact script, right, It's a psychological programming, so that
- 1:34:37Speaker 1: now instead of you're thinking of it as what you've seen,
- 1:34:39Speaker 1: you say, oh, it was just awkward. He's just autistic
- 1:34:42Speaker 1: all of a sudden. He's on the spectrum when it
- 1:34:44Speaker 1: comes to these things.
- 1:34:46Speaker 2: No, it comes to being the richest man a lot.
- 1:34:49Speaker 1: When if you can't stand on the stage and not
- 1:34:51Speaker 1: do a Nazi salute because you autistic, that's a problem,
- 1:34:54Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So for me, I think
- 1:34:57Speaker 1: that he's in too intelligent to not be intentional what
- 1:35:00Speaker 1: he does. Right, if you have the biggest platform in
- 1:35:03Speaker 1: the entire world. And another thing to Adl like, man, listen,
- 1:35:07Speaker 1: we not even triple. This is the first time I've
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: ever seen ad L job for somebody.
- 1:35:10Speaker 2: Why they ran Kyrie through the year, through the Mud?
- 1:35:15Speaker 1: But why because they know that we're going to get
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: more by going along right and acting like you didn't
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: see what you saw. It's better for us to explain
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: it away. That's part of the Hitler program. You just
- 1:35:28Speaker 1: explain it away, right, So they have the best psychological
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: programs when it comes to controlling and manipulating the people.
- 1:35:35Speaker 2: That's crazy because it's like you see, like apak ad L,
- 1:35:38Speaker 2: like guys like Stephen Miller, like it's like just ignoring
- 1:35:42Speaker 2: you know what they their core value don't.
- 1:35:45Speaker 1: Lie with their agenda. Right, If they're going to get
- 1:35:47Speaker 1: more by them having a president and they got Elon
- 1:35:50Speaker 1: who will be running point on a lot of the
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: plans they got going on, then why won't we attack
- 1:35:55Speaker 1: him when we need him to stay this credible person
- 1:35:57Speaker 1: in the media because he's going to do so much
- 1:35:59Speaker 1: for Israel. So it would make suse that they had
- 1:36:02Speaker 1: called their people and be like, yeah.
- 1:36:03Speaker 2: Do you remember when he was critical of Israel? And
- 1:36:06Speaker 2: then like a week later when what.
- 1:36:10Speaker 1: They had them conversations, yea a visit. Do you remember
- 1:36:14Speaker 1: did the visit and a lady when he went to
- 1:36:16Speaker 1: go visit the lady said he was completely unempathetic. He
- 1:36:18Speaker 1: didn't care, he wasn't paying attention, and he was just like,
- 1:36:20Speaker 1: let's just get this business over with.
- 1:36:22Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing is even recently, I want to say,
- 1:36:26Speaker 2: last week he replied to something that was Listen.
- 1:36:29Speaker 1: I know behind the scenes they don't get along. But
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: he's an elite, right, people like Elon Musk and other
- 1:36:34Speaker 1: elits like that. What drives him is power, right purely,
- 1:36:39Speaker 1: It's power, nothing else, So you can't understand it when
- 1:36:42Speaker 1: you're trying to look at it from any other standpoint.
- 1:36:44Speaker 1: It's just power. If I can get more power and
- 1:36:46Speaker 1: more power and more power, it's a drug. So at
- 1:36:49Speaker 1: the end of the day, I don't care about human
- 1:36:51Speaker 1: beings and casualties, right, I don't care about morality or
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: nothing else. It's power. How can I get more power?
- 1:36:59Speaker 1: And for him, he is in a perfect position to
- 1:37:01Speaker 1: just wield that power however he wants to.
- 1:37:04Speaker 2: He's the richest man alive and now he has governmental power.
- 1:37:08Speaker 2: Like the dose. Thing is a real thing.
- 1:37:09Speaker 1: Yeah, the Department of Governing Efficiency is very interesting. But
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: the way I look at things in a nuance, I'm like,
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: first of all, the government is very inefficient, the bureaucracy,
- 1:37:22Speaker 1: and then to the culture, I relate that to Black America.
- 1:37:27Speaker 1: We need our own department of government efficiency. We need
- 1:37:30Speaker 1: to defund certain people that so called represent us but
- 1:37:33Speaker 1: never get any impact of change, and we need to
- 1:37:35Speaker 1: divert those efforts, attention and money to people that are impactful,
- 1:37:39Speaker 1: and we will see the world change right in the
- 1:37:41Speaker 1: next first one hundred days.
- 1:37:42Speaker 2: Well, I think you know, we talked about it a
- 1:37:44Speaker 2: little bit earlier. A lot of the people that you're
- 1:37:46Speaker 2: probably thinking of got big houses. Oh yeah, they got
- 1:37:50Speaker 2: big bills, been living real nicely off of the plight
- 1:37:54Speaker 2: for years and years and years, and whether it's hanging
- 1:37:57Speaker 2: out at a costco bro.
- 1:37:59Speaker 1: The our sharp era is over, the civil rights era
- 1:38:03Speaker 1: is over. And what I mean by that is there's
- 1:38:05Speaker 1: no disrespect to those who lay real foundational efforts right
- 1:38:09Speaker 1: to make progress that had it really in their heart.
- 1:38:13Speaker 1: And I believe that it's not just one of the other.
- 1:38:15Speaker 1: Now we get to kind of look at the progress
- 1:38:17Speaker 1: that our ancestors fought for. And we also get to
- 1:38:21Speaker 1: think about what else our ancestors died for, because we
- 1:38:25Speaker 1: act like the voting is the only thing they died for, right,
- 1:38:28Speaker 1: and know they died for our economic power. Right, they
- 1:38:32Speaker 1: die for our family power, They died for our pride
- 1:38:34Speaker 1: with them selves. They die for our political power. Right.
- 1:38:37Speaker 1: They died for multiple things for us to know who
- 1:38:40Speaker 1: we are. But we push the political voting power anytime.
- 1:38:44Speaker 1: We evoke our ancestors. And it's time for us to
- 1:38:46Speaker 1: resurrect different ancestors now and move on them because the
- 1:38:49Speaker 1: Martin Luther King ain't gonna get us through this time. Right.
- 1:38:52Speaker 1: Just think about if we evoke the thebo Elijah Muhammad
- 1:38:58Speaker 1: and the Marcus Garvey as the main ancestors right that
- 1:39:02Speaker 1: we want to resurrect in our activities, we changed the
- 1:39:05Speaker 1: world overnight. There was a silent protest. I think it
- 1:39:08Speaker 1: was nineteen or seventeen or something like that. It was
- 1:39:11Speaker 1: the first political protests in this country. And what they
- 1:39:15Speaker 1: was doing is they were holding up signs. One of
- 1:39:17Speaker 1: the signs was about we got one hundred million acres
- 1:39:20Speaker 1: of land? Is something like that work? One hundred thousand
- 1:39:24Speaker 1: acres of land? I forgot how much it was, but
- 1:39:25Speaker 1: it was like, it's worth one hundred million dollars. And
- 1:39:28Speaker 1: then they had this long list of all of the
- 1:39:32Speaker 1: different careers and the amount of people that they had
- 1:39:35Speaker 1: in each one, right from brick mason layers to nurses, right.
- 1:39:41Speaker 1: And they went out there to protest because at the
- 1:39:43Speaker 1: time there was an incident where there was some killings
- 1:39:45Speaker 1: in East Saint Louis, I believe, and the protest wasn't
- 1:39:48Speaker 1: less shout. The protest is like saying to this government,
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: we've never participated in trying to assassinate the president. We
- 1:39:56Speaker 1: were the first ones to shed blood for this country
- 1:39:58Speaker 1: in the war. Right, we've done our part and we've
- 1:40:01Speaker 1: been doing our part, and we're not asking for nothing.
- 1:40:03Speaker 1: But at the same time, it is the government job
- 1:40:05Speaker 1: to provide opportunity for citizens. But the message I seen
- 1:40:09Speaker 1: was towards each other. We don't need to say nothing. Well, really,
- 1:40:13Speaker 1: this is what we need to do. If we have
- 1:40:15Speaker 1: ten thousand nurses, we got our own hospitals. If we
- 1:40:18Speaker 1: have people that are in electrical and engineering and architecture
- 1:40:21Speaker 1: and entrepreneur fields, we can build our own cities. Right,
- 1:40:25Speaker 1: we not go cry to them and say save me.
- 1:40:28Speaker 1: The message was let's save ourselves, and if we responded
- 1:40:32Speaker 1: like that each and every time, we would win because
- 1:40:35Speaker 1: it will force us to become closer and closer and closer.
- 1:40:39Speaker 1: And so the mindset that we need to have is
- 1:40:41Speaker 1: a mindset of resilience. And there's no more resilient people
- 1:40:45Speaker 1: than Black Americans, never have ever been, because the way
- 1:40:50Speaker 1: that we respond to things and resilience is the ability
- 1:40:53Speaker 1: for to get bent out of shape and get back
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: into it right. So we're always taken out of our nature.
- 1:40:58Speaker 1: You might be made of slaves and you get back
- 1:41:00Speaker 1: to a warrior. You feel me. We might have to
- 1:41:03Speaker 1: go through crack eras and go through the creation of
- 1:41:06Speaker 1: ghettos in America and black codes, but then we always
- 1:41:08Speaker 1: get back to it. Black men specifically are the biggest
- 1:41:12Speaker 1: social activists and health advocates right in this country. We
- 1:41:16Speaker 1: get back to it each and every time. But they
- 1:41:18Speaker 1: try to paint it as if we'd just been failing
- 1:41:21Speaker 1: and falling. No, we've been fighting and fighting and fighting,
- 1:41:24Speaker 1: and we never stop fighting. That's resilience. We never stopped
- 1:41:27Speaker 1: producing brilliance. If it wasn't no Elijah Muhammad, I wouldn't
- 1:41:30Speaker 1: be here speaking to you today in a matter in
- 1:41:32Speaker 1: which I do. Each generation gets back to this resilience
- 1:41:35Speaker 1: and saying all right, let's get back focus, and let's
- 1:41:37Speaker 1: get back to this money, let's get back to this power,
- 1:41:39Speaker 1: Let's make our own music. Let's have our cultural revolution.
- 1:41:42Speaker 1: Like damn if I went to Japan a few months
- 1:41:46Speaker 1: ago and it's the greatest place to ever visited. Japan
- 1:41:50Speaker 1: is essentially culturally where we want to be. They had
- 1:41:54Speaker 1: a cultural revolution called bushido, right, and the bushido is
- 1:41:58Speaker 1: the code of show Gun and the warrior class to
- 1:42:03Speaker 1: samaraize in their writings on how they lived to not
- 1:42:08Speaker 1: only know the art of war, but the art of
- 1:42:10Speaker 1: piece right, and they learn how to live this balance.
- 1:42:14Speaker 1: And if you read it, you go through this collection
- 1:42:16Speaker 1: of these generals and warriors and the way they think
- 1:42:19Speaker 1: about life right and talk about how this one word
- 1:42:22Speaker 1: was he was stone cold killer, but then on his
- 1:42:25Speaker 1: off time he was a gardener. Right. He understood how
- 1:42:28Speaker 1: to take life and how to nurture life right. And
- 1:42:31Speaker 1: in that he's seen this sense of balance on how
- 1:42:33Speaker 1: to live. They give a breakdown of how to clean
- 1:42:36Speaker 1: and why to clean that when you cleaning during the day,
- 1:42:39Speaker 1: it's also you cleaning your mind and it allows you
- 1:42:41Speaker 1: time to think. And then at night you don't clean,
- 1:42:44Speaker 1: you just put things in place because it represents your
- 1:42:47Speaker 1: mind getting and gathering yourself. And if you watch anime,
- 1:42:52Speaker 1: all anime put bushido lessons in there so that it
- 1:42:55Speaker 1: keeps and preserves the culture. But during that time of
- 1:42:58Speaker 1: them producing that bushido for the people, they had to
- 1:43:00Speaker 1: go through some economic stagnation because they had to sacrifice
- 1:43:04Speaker 1: some capitalization for the ethics of it, all right, some morality.
- 1:43:08Speaker 1: And now today when you go out there, and this
- 1:43:11Speaker 1: is a good example. You know, if you've ever been
- 1:43:14Speaker 1: late to work, and you worked a corporate job, right,
- 1:43:17Speaker 1: and you can't find no parking if you late, because
- 1:43:19Speaker 1: everybody don't park the course in the good spots. But
- 1:43:21Speaker 1: in Japan there are certain practices where people will park
- 1:43:24Speaker 1: farther away the earlier they come, so just in case
- 1:43:27Speaker 1: somebody woke up late. Right. They have empathy for each
- 1:43:30Speaker 1: other and understand, it's not me versus you. This is
- 1:43:33Speaker 1: a cohesive harmony of people living in existence. And this
- 1:43:37Speaker 1: is ancestral practice. This is us how do we coexist,
- 1:43:41Speaker 1: not do how we compete with each other? So for me,
- 1:43:45Speaker 1: we out of harmony with that, and we're going to
- 1:43:47Speaker 1: go through continue to go through these crazy weather events.
- 1:43:51Speaker 1: The hoppy people predicted it a long time ago that
- 1:43:54Speaker 1: we were going to extract so much from the land,
- 1:43:57Speaker 1: right that essentially nature will fight back. Right, These fires
- 1:44:02Speaker 1: that can continue to happen this year because fire is cleansing, right.
- 1:44:06Speaker 1: It needs to happen. It's going to have to happen
- 1:44:08Speaker 1: because where we're going as a society is not sustainable.
- 1:44:12Speaker 1: So the resilience in the mind of being and flow
- 1:44:14Speaker 1: and instead of thinking of ourselves as a machine, how
- 1:44:17Speaker 1: we just work more, How we start to become regenerative
- 1:44:21Speaker 1: to where that which we put in produces more. So
- 1:44:24Speaker 1: it's not just extraction extraction right for me, the whole
- 1:44:29Speaker 1: thing is just getting back to indigenous ways, getting back
- 1:44:32Speaker 1: to ancestral ways, but utilizing modern technology and resources to
- 1:44:37Speaker 1: be way more efficient than they ever could during their time.
- 1:44:40Speaker 1: How would you run a Malcolm X's play during this time?
- 1:44:42Speaker 1: Why would you run the Aja Mohammed play during this time? Right?
- 1:44:45Speaker 1: How would you run Madam C. J. Walker play during
- 1:44:47Speaker 1: this time? Right? And I think the most dangerous prevaliant
- 1:44:53Speaker 1: mindset is that we're so much capitalist but I don't
- 1:44:55Speaker 1: think that's sustainable for us, right, I think we feel
- 1:44:58Speaker 1: too much. Just be greedy. Cap If you are talking
- 1:45:01Speaker 1: to my brother Keingan Beasley, he was talking about how
- 1:45:03Speaker 1: if you go look at the average super elite rich person,
- 1:45:07Speaker 1: they not happy. There is a karma that comes with
- 1:45:11Speaker 1: that of just getting over on people, just getting more
- 1:45:13Speaker 1: and more and more and more. They can't even sleep,
- 1:45:15Speaker 1: they don't get a good night's rest. I don't think
- 1:45:18Speaker 1: that that's sustainable for people who feel a lot, and
- 1:45:21Speaker 1: we feel a lot. That's how we've been able to
- 1:45:25Speaker 1: be taking advantage of historically having too much emotional empathy
- 1:45:28Speaker 1: for others. So we have to be able to be
- 1:45:31Speaker 1: in harmony with the technology and have dominion over it,
- 1:45:34Speaker 1: not it controlling us. Because another single greatest threat to
- 1:45:37Speaker 1: mental health is goddamn doom scrolling. You feel me like, man,
- 1:45:43Speaker 1: you just find yourself down this whole of stimulation because
- 1:45:47Speaker 1: that's what you're trying to do. So you can't focus
- 1:45:49Speaker 1: because when you focus now, it's like this is too boring.
- 1:45:52Speaker 1: But boring is another word for peaceful, right, So if
- 1:45:55Speaker 1: you replace your vocabulary saying man, this is too peaceful,
- 1:45:58Speaker 1: you will hear yourself self? The hell wrong with me?
- 1:46:00Speaker 1: Why can't sit still? You feel me? Why can't I
- 1:46:03Speaker 1: be in darkness for a minute and relax my mind?
- 1:46:07Speaker 1: So therefore you want to have low stimulation and do
- 1:46:10Speaker 1: low stimulation activities so it decreases your baseline, so you
- 1:46:14Speaker 1: don't need these high right dopamine hits of constantly getting
- 1:46:18Speaker 1: scrolling watching what's my next comment? What's the next thing happening? Now?
- 1:46:22Speaker 1: You can't god damn focus on nothing. Now you're not
- 1:46:24Speaker 1: excited about nothing. Now you got damn watching porn and
- 1:46:27Speaker 1: you can't enjoy real women. You know what I'm talking about?
- 1:46:30Speaker 1: The women hitting themselves with the roses. They don't care
- 1:46:32Speaker 1: if you bring her rose. I'm talking about the flowers.
- 1:46:35Speaker 1: They ain't stimulated by that. They need that electrical activity instead. Man,
- 1:46:39Speaker 1: you supost that comes from Oakland. We'll say something potent
- 1:46:42Speaker 1: to a woman and she'll live off that for a
- 1:46:43Speaker 1: few days. Right, you know what I'm saying. Now she
- 1:46:46Speaker 1: about to go watch justin little Boy quote and forget
- 1:46:49Speaker 1: about you. You know what I'm saying, Like, we got
- 1:46:52Speaker 1: to get back to slowing down, to speed up, right,
- 1:46:56Speaker 1: And I think that it's not about unifying with everybody
- 1:47:00Speaker 1: by finding your tribe right now, people who agree with
- 1:47:02Speaker 1: the same value, same moral systems. We got to learn
- 1:47:05Speaker 1: how to communicate to ourselves in the world right like
- 1:47:08Speaker 1: part of the high level conversation booking things I'm putting
- 1:47:11Speaker 1: together right now, I think the most thing that people
- 1:47:13Speaker 1: ask me to teach him is how to communicate. Yeah, right,
- 1:47:16Speaker 1: I'm talking about from celebrities to NBA players, to leaders
- 1:47:19Speaker 1: to other speakers. They want to know how to hell
- 1:47:21Speaker 1: do our communicate? So I started putting together this framework
- 1:47:24Speaker 1: from a type one speaker to a type five and
- 1:47:27Speaker 1: how to go from just being a memorizer of things
- 1:47:30Speaker 1: to becoming an influential, passionate speaker. And men need to
- 1:47:35Speaker 1: learn how to speak to women. Again, I ain't talking
- 1:47:37Speaker 1: about the little fake ris y'all be doing you feel
- 1:47:39Speaker 1: me with the little fake gang, because if you can
- 1:47:41Speaker 1: get a woman to fall in love with you by
- 1:47:43Speaker 1: being yourself, that's sustainable, you feel me.
- 1:47:45Speaker 2: I just told this to my boy yesterday. He said
- 1:47:48Speaker 2: he's going through with his girl or some girl he's
- 1:47:50Speaker 2: talking to is just a psychopaths And I was like,
- 1:47:54Speaker 2: this is the first girl he had. In a minute,
- 1:47:56Speaker 2: He's you know, he's kind of lost some weight, swag
- 1:48:00Speaker 2: a little going, and he got to, you know, he
- 1:48:02Speaker 2: got a girl, and but this the first chick he's had.
- 1:48:04Speaker 2: And I don't know, seven or eight years and I'm
- 1:48:07Speaker 2: telling this guy, I'm like, hey, bro, this girl is
- 1:48:10Speaker 2: like not good for you. Dog, she's a bad person. Yeah,
- 1:48:13Speaker 2: but he said, he said, I just man like, I
- 1:48:17Speaker 2: just don't got game like that. He almost like was
- 1:48:19Speaker 2: talking like as if this was the only girl he
- 1:48:21Speaker 2: could get. And I was like, the problem you're having, bro,
- 1:48:24Speaker 2: is like you're approaching that as like having game as
- 1:48:28Speaker 2: opposed to just being yourself and having a girl who
- 1:48:31Speaker 2: just fucked with you for that. Dog. So now that
- 1:48:33Speaker 2: you got physically in shape and you got some confidence, bro,
- 1:48:36Speaker 2: just be yourself and the women will come full Like
- 1:48:39Speaker 2: you ain't got to like settle for somebody who's gonna
- 1:48:42Speaker 2: like be bad for your peace of mind.
- 1:48:44Speaker 1: See, you know what happens with a lot of men
- 1:48:47Speaker 1: is they they learn how to tap into the light side.
- 1:48:50Speaker 1: Let me be a really good guy and try to
- 1:48:51Speaker 1: get a woman. They don't know to talk into the
- 1:48:53Speaker 1: dark side. Right, You feel me, When you don't need nobody,
- 1:48:56Speaker 1: a woman wants you more, you feel me when you dangerous.
- 1:48:59Speaker 1: She wants some feel like you can protect her. You
- 1:49:01Speaker 1: feel me when you persuasive, and maybe I gotta focus
- 1:49:04Speaker 1: on my goal, can't focus on you. You will provide her.
- 1:49:06Speaker 1: You a man that is gonna get money. You feel
- 1:49:08Speaker 1: me like you working out and things of that nature. Man,
- 1:49:12Speaker 1: you position yourself again, going back to the bushido, to
- 1:49:15Speaker 1: be a man who knows the art of piece and
- 1:49:17Speaker 1: art of war. A woman ain't gonna fall in love
- 1:49:19Speaker 1: with a man that just know the art of piece.
- 1:49:21Speaker 1: Feel me because what she looks at is dark traits subconsciously.
- 1:49:24Speaker 1: And this is what a lot of men don't realize.
- 1:49:27Speaker 1: You could be a nice guy, look good, all of that,
- 1:49:29Speaker 1: but then the other guy who got the dark trait,
- 1:49:31Speaker 1: she's thinking more long term, he can actually protect me
- 1:49:34Speaker 1: when I need to. Yes, and making a woman feel safe,
- 1:49:36Speaker 1: it's number one on her list, you feel me. That's
- 1:49:39Speaker 1: why they look for finances. It's safety in it. I
- 1:49:41Speaker 1: don't want to goddamn be poor out in the streets
- 1:49:44Speaker 1: selling it to somebody who don't need it. You feel
- 1:49:46Speaker 1: me giving it away just because so there's a development
- 1:49:50Speaker 1: of that masculine darkness and that masculine light and the
- 1:49:53Speaker 1: problem is is that she usually seeks a man that
- 1:49:55Speaker 1: has too much darkness or too much light. So when
- 1:49:58Speaker 1: she find the nineteen keys in words, she said, that's
- 1:50:00Speaker 1: just right, you know I'm talking about But I only
- 1:50:02Speaker 1: exist right here. It ain't too many me in existence.
- 1:50:06Speaker 1: So I want to teach the average man right how
- 1:50:09Speaker 1: to tap into that darkness and that light so he
- 1:50:12Speaker 1: can move with balance in the world. You feel me,
- 1:50:14Speaker 1: And then every woman go, w ont you.
- 1:50:16Speaker 2: Talk to me? What are your thoughts on? I don't
- 1:50:20Speaker 2: know if it's actually gonna happen, But the declassification of
- 1:50:23Speaker 2: the JFK assassination and the MLK assassinations, well, you.
- 1:50:28Speaker 1: Know, I'm more interested in a Malcolm X's assassination for sure.
- 1:50:31Speaker 1: That would have been that would have been a good
- 1:50:32Speaker 1: one that I think that would be one that creates
- 1:50:35Speaker 1: some cures in the black community and heals some divisions.
- 1:50:39Speaker 1: But the Martin Luther King JFK, I mean, I look
- 1:50:43Speaker 1: at it as part of Trump's plan to make people
- 1:50:47Speaker 1: distrust the government more right and the democratic basis, which
- 1:50:52Speaker 1: essentially gives him more power. Right, he goes after the FBI,
- 1:50:55Speaker 1: he goes out to these groups. He paints them as
- 1:50:57Speaker 1: the villains. He created his own new corporations or institutions
- 1:51:01Speaker 1: or whatever. You trust them more everything that I see
- 1:51:04Speaker 1: them do. I'm asking why, how is it gonna benefit you?
- 1:51:08Speaker 2: Especially with him?
- 1:51:09Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you're doing something that make people distrust
- 1:51:12Speaker 1: the government and you are the government, how does that
- 1:51:15Speaker 1: benefit unless your goal is to have your own government essentially,
- 1:51:19Speaker 1: or to be able to rule and say, why would
- 1:51:20Speaker 1: you trust the FBI? Look what they did to JFK.
- 1:51:23Speaker 1: Look what they did to Martin Luther King.
- 1:51:25Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a huge wave of the
- 1:51:27Speaker 2: privatization of a lot of the things that the CIA.
- 1:51:30Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, uh, we've seen it already.
- 1:51:33Speaker 1: Obviously. Oh yeah, they've been on that already.
- 1:51:35Speaker 2: That's the thing. But I think now it's like if you,
- 1:51:37Speaker 2: if you, I mean like and the CIA and the
- 1:51:40Speaker 2: FBI have been running unchecked rapidly for years. I mean
- 1:51:44Speaker 2: a lot of the people who are being deported are
- 1:51:47Speaker 2: coming from places that the United States government destabilized.
- 1:51:51Speaker 1: FBI task forces created to watch Marcus Garvey that was
- 1:51:57Speaker 1: created for like, our relationship is the worst for them.
- 1:52:00Speaker 1: I don't trust none of the files that they actually have,
- 1:52:04Speaker 1: especially the ones that they had on Martin Luther King
- 1:52:06Speaker 1: when they was talking about his sexual habits and things
- 1:52:09Speaker 1: of that nature. Because that nigga who is the head
- 1:52:14Speaker 1: of the FBI, what's his name, not trum Hoover. His
- 1:52:20Speaker 1: whole thing was to discredit black leaders. So I wouldn't
- 1:52:24Speaker 1: be surprised if he makes up pure fiction right to
- 1:52:27Speaker 1: talk shit about a man so that he can discredit
- 1:52:30Speaker 1: him morally so that you don't listen to him.
- 1:52:31Speaker 2: And how many honeypot operations they were just running on
- 1:52:34Speaker 2: people just rapidly back then.
- 1:52:36Speaker 1: Bro, because why wouldn't you publish that at that time?
- 1:52:39Speaker 1: Because that'd be the biggest discrediting facts to the movement.
- 1:52:42Speaker 1: So I also would caution people that believing that the
- 1:52:47Speaker 1: truth is gonna come from the people whose job is
- 1:52:50Speaker 1: to spread misinformation, it's dangerous facts. So it's one of
- 1:52:55Speaker 1: those things is yes, we've been waiting for him and
- 1:52:57Speaker 1: we feel like they're a holy girl because they never
- 1:52:59Speaker 1: gave it to us. That don't mean that they're going
- 1:53:00Speaker 1: to give us the truth.
- 1:53:02Speaker 2: Fact. I mean, I think for me it's like will
- 1:53:06Speaker 2: it is everybody involved dead? Because I feel like that's probably.
- 1:53:13Speaker 1: Probably say that was them, not USU CIA.
- 1:53:17Speaker 2: It's a new FBI, right, and.
- 1:53:19Speaker 1: These are just the organizations that we know about. I
- 1:53:22Speaker 1: think what you're really worried about it is the ones
- 1:53:23Speaker 1: we don't know about.
- 1:53:24Speaker 2: It's crazy to think, like the Men and like the
- 1:53:26Speaker 2: Men in black movies back in the day, like there
- 1:53:28Speaker 2: has to be a version of that. With these UFO
- 1:53:33Speaker 2: hearings that they had, it's like there's a version of
- 1:53:35Speaker 2: the Men. But it's like so many movies that we've
- 1:53:37Speaker 2: been fed throughout the years. I feel like it's just
- 1:53:39Speaker 2: desensitizing us to one actually is possible in coming?
- 1:53:44Speaker 1: What is a space force? Even doing you get a
- 1:53:47Speaker 1: whole space force? We don't hear about the activities at all.
- 1:53:49Speaker 2: Think about that movie was it a year and a
- 1:53:53Speaker 2: half or so ago that was on Netflix that Obama's
- 1:53:55Speaker 2: the executive producers of, Oh, yeah, you know what I'm
- 1:53:57Speaker 2: talking about?
- 1:53:58Speaker 1: What was it called?
- 1:54:00Speaker 2: Yeah? But literally, I'm like, this is the most realistic
- 1:54:03Speaker 2: right there.
- 1:54:04Speaker 1: And you see the you see he put in the
- 1:54:06Speaker 1: anti eline propaganda. They ain't like that, right. That movie
- 1:54:09Speaker 1: was a that was a war. That movie he's showing that, Yo,
- 1:54:11Speaker 1: these teslas go take over. You gotta understand they use
- 1:54:15Speaker 1: these tools of propaganda and they push us against each other.
- 1:54:18Speaker 1: I mean, the movie was all about the citizens being
- 1:54:21Speaker 1: the enemy. Yes, it wasn't about it outside. It was
- 1:54:24Speaker 1: about you know.
- 1:54:24Speaker 2: About your labor, the division, right, who is America's biggest enemy?
- 1:54:28Speaker 1: It's each other? Each other empires are destroyed from within.
- 1:54:32Speaker 1: So the prediction is that you know, America implos from within.
- 1:54:37Speaker 1: It's too strong for an enemy outside that destroys the world.
- 1:54:40Speaker 1: But on the inside, if you go look at like
- 1:54:43Speaker 1: the Russian defector Yuri, I forget his last name, but
- 1:54:46Speaker 1: he talked about the demoralization and how it takes like
- 1:54:48Speaker 1: twenty five years and demoralized, and that means that if
- 1:54:52Speaker 1: they started twenty five plus years ago, we would be
- 1:54:54Speaker 1: the children of a demoralized generation. They're not doing it now,
- 1:54:57Speaker 1: It's already been done. And I think that's what we
- 1:55:00Speaker 1: need to realize, is that when you look at that
- 1:55:02Speaker 1: younger generation Gen Z, now we're going to Generation Beta
- 1:55:05Speaker 1: and outfront all that stuff, But these are the children
- 1:55:09Speaker 1: of generations of syops being ran on. They parents in society,
- 1:55:14Speaker 1: So blaming them for things is scapegoing right. The next generation,
- 1:55:19Speaker 1: for what you've done and what you've become. We go.
- 1:55:22Speaker 1: We often scapego. We go look at and we be
- 1:55:24Speaker 1: talking about let's say hip hop, right, and we talk
- 1:55:27Speaker 1: about the emasculation of black men, and then they go point.
- 1:55:30Speaker 1: We would see Donald Glover or Pharrell come outside with
- 1:55:33Speaker 1: the anti pants on and stuffy wild.
- 1:55:37Speaker 2: I didn't know if it was really or not.
- 1:55:38Speaker 1: That's why Kanye West had the crop it, you know
- 1:55:40Speaker 1: what I man, he was like, I like the jacket,
- 1:55:42Speaker 1: but he cropped the rest of the But we appoint
- 1:55:46Speaker 1: to the seventies and be like, but in the seventies
- 1:55:48Speaker 1: we dressed like that. Yeah, them niggas was tripping in
- 1:55:50Speaker 1: the seventies too, literally tripping. That's when European fashion took over.
- 1:55:55Speaker 1: Right then everybody on drugs. Then they were spread into
- 1:55:57Speaker 1: pimp movies, you feel me, and then every dude wanted
- 1:56:00Speaker 1: to be goldie. He wanted to be a pimp back
- 1:56:02Speaker 1: in those days. So they start dressing like that. That
- 1:56:04Speaker 1: wasn't our revolutionary time. That wasn't a high prideful time,
- 1:56:08Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's when we was infiltrated
- 1:56:10Speaker 1: with these operations the most, because we was coming off
- 1:56:13Speaker 1: of Afro centricity and militancy in the sixties. And then
- 1:56:17Speaker 1: the seventies is when they start running all these drug
- 1:56:19Speaker 1: operations on us, you feel me. And then of course
- 1:56:22Speaker 1: you get to the eighties, and by the time they
- 1:56:23Speaker 1: got us there, then that's when we become hyper masculine,
- 1:56:27Speaker 1: and then we start destroying each other. So you can't
- 1:56:29Speaker 1: point to the seventies as a time when we had
- 1:56:31Speaker 1: this renaissance. No, that's when we was the most compromised.
- 1:56:36Speaker 2: Do you think that there were you talked about siops?
- 1:56:38Speaker 2: Do you think there has been any sort of purposeful
- 1:56:44Speaker 2: siops sparked through hip hop?
- 1:56:49Speaker 1: Hell love them? Hey, I love hip hop. I sent
- 1:56:52Speaker 1: you my sound track album. I'm working on one called
- 1:56:55Speaker 1: Save Yourself. But essentially, one could look at hip hop
- 1:57:00Speaker 1: as a saiyah, our saio been theirs, right, it's our Siah.
- 1:57:04Speaker 1: When I talked about you know the gods infiltrading hip hop?
- 1:57:07Speaker 1: You know peace God, then it became what's something nigga?
- 1:57:10Speaker 1: You feel me? That was a switch of language, right,
- 1:57:13Speaker 1: what does that do? We talked, we would use the
- 1:57:15Speaker 1: words brother Moore and rap lyrics, right, and then we
- 1:57:20Speaker 1: started using the word nigga more. And each time you
- 1:57:23Speaker 1: see the shifts in vocabulary, right, and the words that
- 1:57:27Speaker 1: are more frequent that we listening to. What does that do?
- 1:57:30Speaker 1: Hip hop is a media that controls the way we
- 1:57:32Speaker 1: feel and see about ourselves and each other. Right, so,
- 1:57:35Speaker 1: if hip hop is one of the most influential genres
- 1:57:38Speaker 1: in the world, it is the most Yeah you think
- 1:57:41Speaker 1: you go, let that go without having controlling it. They
- 1:57:43Speaker 1: never done that with any media genre ever. When the
- 1:57:46Speaker 1: TV came on, the government used it. When hip hop
- 1:57:49Speaker 1: came on, the government used it. How do we feel prisons?
- 1:57:52Speaker 1: How do we get black people to have an attitude
- 1:57:54Speaker 1: that demoralizes them? How do we get them to talk
- 1:57:56Speaker 1: about sister from Lauren Hill eras to saying bitch and
- 1:58:00Speaker 1: go on to Sexy Red. You can't tell me hip
- 1:58:02Speaker 1: hop not a sayat when we go from Lauren Hill
- 1:58:04Speaker 1: to Sexy Red, that's the SIoT. How do we get
- 1:58:08Speaker 1: a generation from going from Lauren Hills to say and
- 1:58:10Speaker 1: I ain't saying Lauryn Hill It was perfect, right, but
- 1:58:13Speaker 1: it was a much more morality and ethics and values
- 1:58:16Speaker 1: that we were spreading into music. The music today is
- 1:58:19Speaker 1: death music. It's fast consumption, it's fast death. How do
- 1:58:23Speaker 1: we just like we turned into crackheads and music.
- 1:58:25Speaker 2: Well, we've also desensitized the consumer based so much to like,
- 1:58:30Speaker 2: you know, I talk about this all the time, like
- 1:58:32Speaker 2: the YouTube documentary culture when it comes to like what's
- 1:58:35Speaker 2: going on in Jacksonville or Chicago. It's turned like a
- 1:58:40Speaker 2: lot of these guys whose music isn't really good into
- 1:58:42Speaker 2: like just main characters and people's TV shows on YouTube.
- 1:58:45Speaker 2: So when they die, Julio Fulio gets killed in Florida,
- 1:58:50Speaker 2: you know, and you know, young and Ace replies the
- 1:58:52Speaker 2: next day with a freestyle, and then you go through
- 1:58:54Speaker 2: these comments and it's just like it's just so ugly
- 1:58:57Speaker 2: because it's like these are like real human beings we're
- 1:58:59Speaker 2: talking about. It's not even so much about the music
- 1:59:02Speaker 2: as much as it's about like but with a lot
- 1:59:05Speaker 2: of guys obviously about the drama, about the characters in
- 1:59:08Speaker 2: this like you know, this fucking show that's playing out
- 1:59:12Speaker 2: in front of everybody's eyes on YouTube.
- 1:59:14Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the music is weaponized completely now from
- 1:59:18Speaker 1: when you know there was a switch to ata waits right,
- 1:59:22Speaker 1: everything has been weaponized to get us to think fast,
- 1:59:26Speaker 1: to get our heart rate moving faster, to have us
- 1:59:28Speaker 1: having an anxiety towards each other. When we were listening
- 1:59:31Speaker 1: to crunk music back in the day, and everybody was
- 1:59:34Speaker 1: getting turned up. You feel me? What always happened? A fight, breakout,
- 1:59:38Speaker 1: somebody getting shot.
- 1:59:39Speaker 2: Yeah, certain songs I remember with DJ and you couldn't
- 1:59:42Speaker 2: play like what was the little scrappy record No Problem?
- 1:59:45Speaker 1: Couldn't play No Problem. As soon as that come on,
- 1:59:49Speaker 1: you feel me. I'm like, you ain't got numbers. I
- 1:59:53Speaker 1: remember the promoter like, yo, why you play that ship?
- 1:59:55Speaker 1: You started three fights with the fun right, And the
- 1:59:58Speaker 1: reality of it is is it's not even just that
- 2:00:01Speaker 1: the artists themselves was intentional about it, because even when
- 2:00:04Speaker 1: you go to like ying, ain't I love that music?
- 2:00:06Speaker 1: Yani ain't twins wanted to add more conscious music. At first. Well,
- 2:00:09Speaker 1: what the the labels and the coach of gravitated towards
- 2:00:13Speaker 1: was that low music, you feel me, low frequency. So
- 2:00:16Speaker 1: they said, let's just if this is the product. Instead
- 2:00:18Speaker 1: of me trying to make a five star meal, let
- 2:00:20Speaker 1: me make McDonald's and sell a million of these burgers. Right,
- 2:00:23Speaker 1: And so a lot of rappers right now are just
- 2:00:26Speaker 1: like McDonald's.
- 2:00:27Speaker 2: I feel like hip hop is more McDonald's in it.
- 2:00:29Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing, is, Like I said earlier,
- 2:00:31Speaker 2: It's like back in the day we had like the
- 2:00:33Speaker 2: commons and the most deafs, and like even like a
- 2:00:36Speaker 2: guy like a Mortal Technique who was headlining huge festivals
- 2:00:40Speaker 2: and Mortal Technique. I learned so much about the world from.
- 2:00:42Speaker 1: More ye see again. You learn world views and perspectives.
- 2:00:46Speaker 1: You learned about different regions and things.
- 2:00:48Speaker 2: And I don't even know who that is in twenty
- 2:00:49Speaker 2: twenty five. It's not too many, you know, Like I
- 2:00:52Speaker 2: think Killer Mike is a great resource.
- 2:00:55Speaker 1: But shut out to Killer Mike, shout out to Shout
- 2:00:57Speaker 1: out to Larrussell.
- 2:00:58Speaker 2: L Russell was amazing.
- 2:00:59Speaker 1: By out tell my brother Simba by you feel me,
- 2:01:03Speaker 1: Jack Heller, that's my little brother. You know what I'm saying.
- 2:01:06Speaker 1: I think it's it's some really dope artists.
- 2:01:08Speaker 2: No, there's amazing hipp brother.
- 2:01:09Speaker 1: Aj McQueen shout out to him. You feel me. It's
- 2:01:12Speaker 1: some dope people. And I think what needs to shift is,
- 2:01:15Speaker 1: like we got to realize the power is in the independent.
- 2:01:18Speaker 1: You feel me? And how do you how do you
- 2:01:22Speaker 1: intentionally look at those voices and saying, because I know
- 2:01:24Speaker 1: they're not gonna be represented, I'm going to push them right.
- 2:01:28Speaker 1: And I mean that as people like us that have
- 2:01:30Speaker 1: media for sure.
- 2:01:31Speaker 2: You know all those people you just mentioned are my
- 2:01:33Speaker 2: friends and been on the show many times.
- 2:01:34Speaker 1: And everybody needs to do that that believes in that
- 2:01:37Speaker 1: at least sure, right, and when you do it and
- 2:01:39Speaker 1: they hot, everybody else gonna jump on it anyway. Yeah,
- 2:01:42Speaker 1: you feel me.
- 2:01:42Speaker 2: I see it all the time. I tell these guys,
- 2:01:44Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, like like, hey, how do I get
- 2:01:47Speaker 2: on so and social? I'm like, man, you just keep
- 2:01:50Speaker 2: going because these fools only gonna tap in with you, beficial.
- 2:01:53Speaker 1: You just got to keep moving around. It's a it's
- 2:01:55Speaker 1: a fight, it's a war. It's like who gets a
- 2:01:57Speaker 1: control the frequency? You know what I'm saying and I
- 2:02:00Speaker 1: ain't saying like you got to make all conscious music.
- 2:02:03Speaker 1: You feel me, be conscious when you make your music.
- 2:02:05Speaker 2: Or be conscious when you're when you speak.
- 2:02:08Speaker 1: One hundred percent because you get a platform, you can
- 2:02:10Speaker 1: represent something higher. If you're on an interview, Look at
- 2:02:13Speaker 1: ain'ty of Larry Jones. He's like he's the most player.
- 2:02:19Speaker 1: How do you even put him in a category? He's
- 2:02:21Speaker 1: his own thing. But he's very like barrier playing fly ship.
- 2:02:25Speaker 1: But if you listen to him speak he's he's pushing organic.
- 2:02:28Speaker 1: You feel me.
- 2:02:28Speaker 2: He's pushing exercise.
- 2:02:30Speaker 1: One hundred percent. That's that's the example of putting the
- 2:02:33Speaker 1: candy in the medicine jar. You feel me. You get
- 2:02:36Speaker 1: individuals like him, and you realize, like, when you get
- 2:02:39Speaker 1: close the lifestyle that he pushing is really a healthy lifestyle.
- 2:02:44Speaker 1: You feel me. But how do you do it and
- 2:02:45Speaker 1: stay cool? You feel me.
- 2:02:47Speaker 2: He's kind of mastered that.
- 2:02:48Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll you know, been seeing him forever growing
- 2:02:51Speaker 1: up in the Bay. You feel me. I think he
- 2:02:54Speaker 1: has a really good blueprint. I agree. How do you
- 2:02:58Speaker 1: make music that is still I think super cultural in
- 2:03:03Speaker 1: the way where it's cold as hell. It's player, but
- 2:03:07Speaker 1: it is becoming a trojan horse because when you get
- 2:03:10Speaker 1: close up you realize, like, oh, he actually pushing something
- 2:03:12Speaker 1: positive independence, even somebody likes Sauce Walker. Sauce Walker, he
- 2:03:17Speaker 1: goes through that h town music. You feel me. You
- 2:03:18Speaker 1: go put it in a certain way, but he gonna
- 2:03:20Speaker 1: always throw some candy in the medicine sure, and then
- 2:03:22Speaker 1: when he speaks, you go here. And then when you
- 2:03:24Speaker 1: see him doing an interview, you're like, oh shit, and
- 2:03:27Speaker 1: who's that influencing the most? His constituency, the people that
- 2:03:30Speaker 1: listen to him, the people that normally they might not
- 2:03:32Speaker 1: get it from those nineteen keys, but when they heard
- 2:03:34Speaker 1: saut throw the sauce on it, you know what, I think, bros, Right,
- 2:03:38Speaker 1: And I think rappers got to be stop being afraid
- 2:03:40Speaker 1: of allowing like your audience to see that side of you. Yeah,
- 2:03:43Speaker 1: And I think that's a lot of they feel like
- 2:03:45Speaker 1: they're gonna lose the audience. But I think you're been
- 2:03:47Speaker 1: exposed to a lot well.
- 2:03:48Speaker 2: Also, a lot of artists, like quite frankly, don't have
- 2:03:50Speaker 2: the mind that Saucewalker has or the mind you know.
- 2:03:53Speaker 2: But it's like the ones that do, the ones that do,
- 2:03:55Speaker 2: it's like you're almost like full of shit, low key
- 2:03:58Speaker 2: on a large scale. Like every time you're on camera,
- 2:04:01Speaker 2: you do a podcast, you do an interview, you don't really.
- 2:04:04Speaker 1: Well, they think they gotta be this persona. It's like
- 2:04:06Speaker 1: this old school You've seen an interview with Richie rich
- 2:04:09Speaker 1: and Tupac. He got on another vest and I feel
- 2:04:13Speaker 1: like so many people took that interview as this is
- 2:04:15Speaker 1: the persona I need to be in interviews really not
- 2:04:18Speaker 1: paying attention to him, smoking, trying to figure out when
- 2:04:20Speaker 1: this shit is over with. Yeah, you feel me?
- 2:04:22Speaker 2: And I was like, don't even come.
- 2:04:23Speaker 1: Yeah, they throwing a persona like that's that's not you,
- 2:04:26Speaker 1: Like you're telling me as a man, you can have
- 2:04:28Speaker 1: a conversation with another man.
- 2:04:30Speaker 2: So I had a a artist. I had a famous
- 2:04:32Speaker 2: moment on the pot. I'm not gonna say artist name.
- 2:04:34Speaker 2: People can put it together all they one. But so
- 2:04:38Speaker 2: this this guy's label. I'm friends with one of the
- 2:04:42Speaker 2: girls who runs runs the label, and she was like, Yo,
- 2:04:46Speaker 2: so and so is really really wanting to go on
- 2:04:49Speaker 2: Joe Rogan. He's like in the politics, he's in the aliens,
- 2:04:53Speaker 2: He's in all this crazy shit. And I was like him,
- 2:04:57Speaker 2: like him, Yeah, So he comes on my show, popped
- 2:05:03Speaker 2: the perk right before the interview started, was an hour late.
- 2:05:06Speaker 2: I mean just was like the absolute worst person ever.
- 2:05:09Speaker 2: Was not trying to have a discussion whatsoever. I'm trying
- 2:05:11Speaker 2: to engage him and yeah, and we ended up having
- 2:05:14Speaker 2: this big famous moment. He leaves and uh, I shit
- 2:05:19Speaker 2: you not. Like a month ago, I get the same
- 2:05:22Speaker 2: call from the label saying, hey, I know y'all's interview
- 2:05:25Speaker 2: didn't go that great, but he really do you have
- 2:05:27Speaker 2: any ends on Joe Rogan, and I'm like.
- 2:05:30Speaker 1: Who the fuck do I look like? That's why That's why.
- 2:05:33Speaker 2: I'm like, I also like I don't like, I'm not
- 2:05:35Speaker 2: is this guy capable? Like like you know, like if
- 2:05:38Speaker 2: you knew this dude, like I like his music a lot,
- 2:05:40Speaker 2: but it's like, if you just knew him surface level,
- 2:05:42Speaker 2: based on like how he presents himself on camera, you'd
- 2:05:45Speaker 2: be like, there's no way, like this guy even has
- 2:05:47Speaker 2: that sort of but apparently he does, you know. And
- 2:05:49Speaker 2: it's like at the end of the day, it's like,
- 2:05:51Speaker 2: I think.
- 2:05:51Speaker 1: That's the that's the thing like we look at I
- 2:05:54Speaker 1: think this cultural persona that we have when we represent
- 2:05:57Speaker 1: ourselves in front of the coach and our people, that
- 2:05:59Speaker 1: it got to be like this low level version of ourselves.
- 2:06:02Speaker 1: This is who we need to be to play this character.
- 2:06:04Speaker 1: But then when you yourself, when you go on a
- 2:06:07Speaker 1: Joe Rogan and say if you will or high level conversations,
- 2:06:10Speaker 1: it allows you to demonstrate a different side because you know,
- 2:06:13Speaker 1: you speaking in front of a different audience, and what
- 2:06:16Speaker 1: you got to demonstrate and realize it's a global audience always, right,
- 2:06:20Speaker 1: there's no borders on the podcast, right, so you always
- 2:06:23Speaker 1: had that opportunity to gain a new fan base. If
- 2:06:26Speaker 1: they hear something new from you that they like, for
- 2:06:28Speaker 1: sure you're speaking on a different subject. I had acept
- 2:06:31Speaker 1: Ferg on the show, and so many people was like, bro.
- 2:06:34Speaker 2: This new album was super.
- 2:06:36Speaker 1: Sided Ace before so hell of people was coming. I'm
- 2:06:39Speaker 1: about to go watch his album. I mean listen to
- 2:06:41Speaker 1: his album, yeah, and this new album he was super vulnerable. Right.
- 2:06:43Speaker 2: It different.
- 2:06:44Speaker 1: But if you don't, if you don't get the curation,
- 2:06:47Speaker 1: because I think this is what a lot of artists
- 2:06:48Speaker 1: can't do. They can't curate that side of themselves to
- 2:06:51Speaker 1: make space for it for they fan base, right, And
- 2:06:53Speaker 1: some people they switch up so much on their fan
- 2:06:55Speaker 1: base they leave them behind. You have to take them
- 2:06:58Speaker 1: on a journey with you, right. So I look at
- 2:07:02Speaker 1: a lot of them are just not trained, you know
- 2:07:04Speaker 1: what I mean. They're not pr training, not brand training
- 2:07:07Speaker 1: on how to market. They don't understand these things. They
- 2:07:09Speaker 1: think in this's binary well on this one on hip hop, shit,
- 2:07:12Speaker 1: i don't act like an ignorant nigga on this one,
- 2:07:13Speaker 1: I'm acting a little more intelligent. Things of that nature.
- 2:07:16Speaker 2: Or they're like chasing like be yourself on all of
- 2:07:18Speaker 2: them in the same way that platforms can farm clip
- 2:07:22Speaker 2: or clip farm. Rather, the artists will do that too.
- 2:07:25Speaker 2: They know what they're doing, they're trying to.
- 2:07:26Speaker 1: But they be creating cheap moments that at the end
- 2:07:29Speaker 1: of the day, you become that moment, right, you know
- 2:07:31Speaker 1: what I mean? And then people forget you for anything
- 2:07:33Speaker 1: else because they got so much information they processing. They
- 2:07:36Speaker 1: can only remember you from the moment that stood out,
- 2:07:39Speaker 1: and it's not even the music most right time. And
- 2:07:41Speaker 1: then if your music not connected to the moment you created,
- 2:07:44Speaker 1: how is that gonna create a funnel for me to
- 2:07:46Speaker 1: listen to your music, because there's no mood if I
- 2:07:48Speaker 1: think of you, think about any artists, right, I'm trying
- 2:07:53Speaker 1: to think of somebody, But let's just any artists for example,
- 2:07:57Speaker 1: that create a moment in time like the one you
- 2:07:59Speaker 1: had with the person you're talking about. Right. If the
- 2:08:03Speaker 1: music is connected to that type of activity when they
- 2:08:06Speaker 1: think about the person, that's cool. But if they make
- 2:08:09Speaker 1: any music outside of that, then they got a disconnection.
- 2:08:12Speaker 1: Now they don't have ability to grow. So now you
- 2:08:14Speaker 1: make some music, but that's not how I feel about you, right,
- 2:08:17Speaker 1: So now I don't want to listen to you. Talk
- 2:08:18Speaker 1: about nothing else. I only want you to be stuck
- 2:08:20Speaker 1: in this one little pigeonhole. When I want to feel
- 2:08:23Speaker 1: like that, I will go to you. But when the
- 2:08:25Speaker 1: world shifts and people don't feel like that no more,
- 2:08:28Speaker 1: now you don't have a platform. So everybody should be
- 2:08:31Speaker 1: making a platform robust enough to where they have the
- 2:08:34Speaker 1: ability to shift in the audience will follow them along
- 2:08:37Speaker 1: through it.
- 2:08:38Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think too, it's like unfortunate, man, Like
- 2:08:41Speaker 2: there's not really any like real dope, big homies that
- 2:08:44Speaker 2: a lot of these rappers have. Man, And you know,
- 2:08:47Speaker 2: even if you think about.
- 2:08:48Speaker 1: Like, well they chasing relevance too, that's exactly right.
- 2:08:52Speaker 2: But even if you think about like like we got
- 2:08:53Speaker 2: to go to Utah and hang out with Young Boy
- 2:08:55Speaker 2: for a day, and like I was, like, dude, this
- 2:08:58Speaker 2: guy was the biggest per form an artist on Atlantic
- 2:09:01Speaker 2: Records for like, I mean, this guy's a prolific artist
- 2:09:06Speaker 2: in terms of like the numbers he's put up, right,
- 2:09:08Speaker 2: and even just the influence on kids he has. Right,
- 2:09:10Speaker 2: But you could just tell like that dude, like whears
- 2:09:13Speaker 2: so much of that and like where like I cannot
- 2:09:19Speaker 2: imagine like anybody involved with Atlantic Records like try to
- 2:09:22Speaker 2: step in and be like just try to help them
- 2:09:26Speaker 2: on like a human basis, as opposed to like, hey,
- 2:09:29Speaker 2: you have another album to turn in. Hey, by the way,
- 2:09:31Speaker 2: if you go to jail, it's probably helpful as long
- 2:09:35Speaker 2: as you don't go way too long. It's a little
- 2:09:36Speaker 2: helpful because it builds this allure. And now we get
- 2:09:39Speaker 2: the free young Boy campaign. Items being happened with Wayne
- 2:09:42Speaker 2: back in the day, you know, when Waingne got locked up,
- 2:09:44Speaker 2: it's like they don't give a fuck, and then what
- 2:09:47Speaker 2: happens is you know, you might you know, you know,
- 2:09:50Speaker 2: I think Young Boys are a good dude.
- 2:09:52Speaker 1: Man.
- 2:09:52Speaker 2: We spent some time with him and he was super cool.
- 2:09:55Speaker 2: But like, at the end of the day, like you
- 2:09:58Speaker 2: can't be who he he is and deal with you know,
- 2:10:01Speaker 2: the addiction and the family. He's got a lot of
- 2:10:03Speaker 2: kids and all the trauma that he's dealt with over
- 2:10:06Speaker 2: the years and not be like fucking affected by it
- 2:10:10Speaker 2: and not wear it. And it's like, who's there, who's
- 2:10:13Speaker 2: there to you know, there's nobody there to like help
- 2:10:18Speaker 2: him do that for real?
- 2:10:20Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the label not gonna care you're a
- 2:10:22Speaker 1: product to the label is just business like.
- 2:10:24Speaker 2: Now the NFL has CT protocol. They had to you know,
- 2:10:27Speaker 2: it's like, where's that for hip hop? Where's that for artists?
- 2:10:29Speaker 2: You know, like it's just that doesn't exist.
- 2:10:30Speaker 1: That that goes to your managers and the people around you.
- 2:10:33Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. You're a quote unquote big homes.
- 2:10:35Speaker 1: Wanted us to come up there. We couldn't make it happen.
- 2:10:38Speaker 1: But that was me seeing them having foresight to saying,
- 2:10:41Speaker 1: this thing is about to go to left. How do
- 2:10:43Speaker 1: we get somebody that possibly some of these rappers of
- 2:10:47Speaker 1: people could listen to right? And that's the tough part.
- 2:10:51Speaker 1: It's a lot of people we're supposed to have on
- 2:10:53Speaker 1: a platform. A lot of times they either I think
- 2:10:54Speaker 1: they're afraid to have a conversation sometimes sure, And for me,
- 2:10:57Speaker 1: I just have a conversation with you, Like I don't
- 2:10:59Speaker 1: whatever were gonna talk about. It's easy for me to
- 2:11:02Speaker 1: make a high level but it's gonna be something beneficial
- 2:11:04Speaker 1: to where you gain a new audience.
- 2:11:06Speaker 2: That was my whole thing with him was like just
- 2:11:07Speaker 2: I'm gonna go there and I'm not gonna treat him
- 2:11:09Speaker 2: like an alien. Yeah, because I feel like everybody who
- 2:11:11Speaker 2: would go talk to him like treat him like a
- 2:11:12Speaker 2: fucking alien, like let's just shoot the shit, and.
- 2:11:14Speaker 1: Like, well you need to also, some people need somebody
- 2:11:17Speaker 1: to say some shit you don't want to hear. Like
- 2:11:19Speaker 1: I met with Kodak Black, and I remember it was
- 2:11:21Speaker 1: at Jalen's birthday party and.
- 2:11:24Speaker 2: How recently this was a few months ago. Okay, yeah,
- 2:11:27Speaker 2: he probably, yeah.
- 2:11:29Speaker 1: And when I first met up with him, you know
- 2:11:30Speaker 1: what I mean, it was all love and respect. Of course,
- 2:11:32Speaker 1: the whole time he was just like bro I followed.
- 2:11:34Speaker 1: He was calling his homie to show him like we
- 2:11:36Speaker 1: was just talking about always listening to you. And at
- 2:11:39Speaker 1: the time, I felt like when he was on stage performing,
- 2:11:43Speaker 1: he wasn't in his right mind and it was hard
- 2:11:45Speaker 1: to watch and I'm like, man, I don't feel right
- 2:11:48Speaker 1: just watching the performance happen, right, And then later on
- 2:11:51Speaker 1: something happened to him, and then we kind of treated
- 2:11:53Speaker 1: this like entertainment. Yes, so that's why to pull him
- 2:11:55Speaker 1: to a side and you know, get his ear real
- 2:11:57Speaker 1: quick to speak to him. And I feel like we
- 2:11:59Speaker 1: probably not having enough of those kind of moments. You
- 2:12:02Speaker 1: feel me, like you can't treat somebody's downfall as entertainment.
- 2:12:06Speaker 1: You feel me otherwise I look at it as you
- 2:12:08Speaker 1: almost contributing to it.
- 2:12:09Speaker 2: I just turned on a nightclub in Scottsdale and my
- 2:12:13Speaker 2: boy had reached out, who I guess is working with
- 2:12:15Speaker 2: Kodak down. He's like, yo, man, Kodak's will be a phoenix,
- 2:12:17Speaker 2: you know, let's book him at the club. And I
- 2:12:19Speaker 2: was like, bro, I I'm not trying to pay for this,
- 2:12:25Speaker 2: Like he's obviously not doing well, Like I'm not trying
- 2:12:27Speaker 2: to bring him to a club and lead him alcohol,
- 2:12:29Speaker 2: and like, you know, he's Kodak Black. But it's like
- 2:12:32Speaker 2: and the same person was like, nah, bro, you know,
- 2:12:35Speaker 2: Kodak's on Kodak He's good. You know. I'm like, nah,
- 2:12:37Speaker 2: get it. But to me, it's like they shouldn't. I
- 2:12:40Speaker 2: feel like nobody should be making money off of him
- 2:12:43Speaker 2: right now, as opposed.
- 2:12:44Speaker 1: To try extremely talented, he's an alien. It's kind of
- 2:12:48Speaker 1: like watching and some people don't like this a knowledge
- 2:12:51Speaker 1: you watching DMX, you know what I'm saying. It's extremely talented,
- 2:12:56Speaker 1: but I just don't like the way he poisoning himself.
- 2:12:58Speaker 1: And I feel like he got a very high level
- 2:13:01Speaker 1: of consciousness and awareness just knowing the type of things
- 2:13:04Speaker 1: he'd be tapped into, but that environment is stronger than nature.
- 2:13:07Speaker 2: What's sad too, is when you're someone who's that famous,
- 2:13:10Speaker 2: that influential, and have that much money, no matter what happens,
- 2:13:15Speaker 2: you will always find a group to enable you. Oh honey,
- 2:13:18Speaker 2: because you could have a group of great people around
- 2:13:20Speaker 2: you that tell you what you need to hear and
- 2:13:21Speaker 2: try to hold you accountable. It doesn't matter. You're gonna
- 2:13:24Speaker 2: move over to these people who ain't tripping because they're
- 2:13:26Speaker 2: just gonna hear a quickly look off you and then
- 2:13:27Speaker 2: they're depending on you.
- 2:13:28Speaker 1: So they don't know how to pull you to aside
- 2:13:30Speaker 1: because they're afraid that you go cut them off. Yes,
- 2:13:32Speaker 1: so they're enabling is also their dependency, and it's unfortunate
- 2:13:36Speaker 1: because it becomes a cycle that has a downfall and
- 2:13:38Speaker 1: then they're gonna have to cut you off eventually. Anyway. Yeah,
- 2:13:41Speaker 1: So you would rather be the person that says something
- 2:13:44Speaker 1: right before it happened, so at least when that cycle
- 2:13:46Speaker 1: comes to an end, they remember you for being the
- 2:13:48Speaker 1: only person that was telling them right. I'm usually that
- 2:13:51Speaker 1: person in People Live. I'm gonna tell you what's real.
- 2:13:54Speaker 1: You ain't gonna like it, but I grew up with
- 2:13:57Speaker 1: six brothers, and you know, we speak to each other
- 2:13:59Speaker 1: as men, like it or not. And so what ended
- 2:14:02Speaker 1: up happening is is you might dislike me for the
- 2:14:05Speaker 1: moment when when you finally got some time and goddamn
- 2:14:07Speaker 1: listen and you hit that bottom, ees gonna come back,
- 2:14:09Speaker 1: and like, you know what, I apologize you was right, right,
- 2:14:12Speaker 1: And so I'd rather be that person that forewarned you
- 2:14:15Speaker 1: and let you be mad at me while you're going
- 2:14:17Speaker 1: through it and we can several our ties, our connection,
- 2:14:20Speaker 1: whatever it is, because I just can't stay in your
- 2:14:22Speaker 1: radius and let you disrespect yourself and disrespectful to me
- 2:14:26Speaker 1: to not goddamn tell you the right thing.
- 2:14:29Speaker 2: That's real. Man. Well listen, I think we need more
- 2:14:31Speaker 2: voices like yours for people who don't who aren't following
- 2:14:36Speaker 2: you on YouTube. Twitter.
- 2:14:37Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tap in.
- 2:14:38Speaker 2: You gotta tap in man for you said you're working
- 2:14:42Speaker 2: on an album.
- 2:14:43Speaker 1: Yeah, so I consider it a soundtrack to the movement. Man.
- 2:14:47Speaker 1: You know, I got in rapping when I was younger.
- 2:14:49Speaker 1: We used to my older brother at me battle rapping
- 2:14:52Speaker 1: in the streets in Saint Louis back in the day.
- 2:14:54Speaker 1: Just told me go out there battle rapping. We'll just
- 2:14:56Speaker 1: be going back and forth, and I developed a new
- 2:15:00Speaker 1: act for freestyling. You feel me. I've always been a
- 2:15:03Speaker 1: speaker of my whole life and just been developing my
- 2:15:05Speaker 1: voice to speakers, you feel me in successful towards speaking.
- 2:15:09Speaker 1: I never really had rap dreams. It was actually his
- 2:15:12Speaker 1: more his dreams than his younger brother that can rap
- 2:15:15Speaker 1: in things of that nature for me of something that
- 2:15:16Speaker 1: came easy, So I never thought of it as a thing,
- 2:15:20Speaker 1: But recently I just find I find piece in it. Man.
- 2:15:23Speaker 1: I find it's almost therapy just going into a studio,
- 2:15:27Speaker 1: you feel me, and coming out with a song, and
- 2:15:30Speaker 1: now I can listen to myself and vibe to it
- 2:15:32Speaker 1: because I think a lot of lot of rappers just
- 2:15:34Speaker 1: be weird. Though I don't want their thoughts in my head,
- 2:15:37Speaker 1: and I'd rather put a soundtrack to my own movement.
- 2:15:40Speaker 1: You feel me. Sometimes people make good music and I'm like, damn,
- 2:15:43Speaker 1: this is what I would have said. This is how
- 2:15:44Speaker 1: I feel now trying to develop my own skill set
- 2:15:47Speaker 1: to where I can put that soundtrack behind it. So
- 2:15:50Speaker 1: I look at it almost like a reverse of like Tupac. Yeah,
- 2:15:54Speaker 1: I mean Tupac started off with music got more intense
- 2:15:57Speaker 1: thought leadership in media, and I start off with the
- 2:16:00Speaker 1: thought leadership in the media, and we add the music
- 2:16:02Speaker 1: as a component to the soundtrack. So it's like building
- 2:16:04Speaker 1: out a whole world.
- 2:16:06Speaker 2: Yeah, you have so much. Obviously, you know you're an author,
- 2:16:08Speaker 2: you got the YouTube is fire like, like I said,
- 2:16:11Speaker 2: some of the best conversations you could find online you have.
- 2:16:16Speaker 2: And then just on the financial literacy front, your way.
- 2:16:19Speaker 2: You know, you're you're huge in the crypto space, which
- 2:16:21Speaker 2: I think is you know, so many people just have
- 2:16:25Speaker 2: such a surface level understanding.
- 2:16:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it'scate yourself. Man, you know, you ain't
- 2:16:30Speaker 1: got to go through me at all. The space is
- 2:16:32Speaker 1: wide open. But I would say what's happening right now
- 2:16:35Speaker 1: is people are finding their teacher that can teach them
- 2:16:38Speaker 1: in a way that relates.
- 2:16:39Speaker 2: And the other thing, too, is like people are always
- 2:16:41Speaker 2: thinking with crypto it's too late. It's not too late
- 2:16:44Speaker 2: because it's like, oh, hit a hundred thousand, Damn, I
- 2:16:46Speaker 2: should have got it when it was sixty. But when
- 2:16:47Speaker 2: it was sixty you were like, damn, I should have
- 2:16:48Speaker 2: got any when it was twenty.
- 2:16:49Speaker 1: And it's like it's a reverse mindset that's that's a
- 2:16:52Speaker 1: poverty mindset. It keeps you poor. There's always opportunities in
- 2:16:56Speaker 1: the market, right. Most of the people invest investing in
- 2:17:00Speaker 1: what they think will be valuable in the future. If
- 2:17:03Speaker 1: AI is valuable tech growth sector right now, then people
- 2:17:07Speaker 1: are investing in that. Right. If you're going to award
- 2:17:10Speaker 1: the people investing into goddamn wards, yeah, rate theon and
- 2:17:14Speaker 1: whatever other ones. Manufacturers that's gonna benefit from it, right.
- 2:17:18Speaker 1: So a lot of the information that we have daily
- 2:17:21Speaker 1: as we pay attention to things, we don't have a
- 2:17:22Speaker 1: reason to hold that information. But if it was, let
- 2:17:26Speaker 1: me create a thesis on what I think happened in
- 2:17:27Speaker 1: the world, and then let me go research companies that's
- 2:17:29Speaker 1: go benefit from it. You will be surprised how much
- 2:17:32Speaker 1: knowledge you have that's actually beneficial. How many times you
- 2:17:35Speaker 1: see something I knew that was gonna happen, Well, what
- 2:17:37Speaker 1: if you connected that to an investment? That's note.
- 2:17:40Speaker 2: That's why I always tell people is like, especially when
- 2:17:42Speaker 2: we think of the stock market, it's not I mean,
- 2:17:45Speaker 2: if you do stock options, that's a skill set. That's
- 2:17:48Speaker 2: a skills that is a skill set, and that is
- 2:17:52Speaker 2: if you're not good at it, it is gambling it's
- 2:17:56Speaker 2: a version of gambling.
- 2:17:57Speaker 1: Options allow you to buy time right. So what you're
- 2:18:00Speaker 1: saying is, do you think Microsoft, with all of his
- 2:18:04Speaker 1: resources and contracts and companies that they own, the way
- 2:18:07Speaker 1: the world is going, they supposed to possibly be buying TikTok?
- 2:18:12Speaker 1: Do you think that will increase the stock in the future.
- 2:18:15Speaker 1: So you buy an option a year ahead of time,
- 2:18:17Speaker 1: they say, I want to buy this stock for eighty dollars, right,
- 2:18:21Speaker 1: So now by time that contracts expired and that stock
- 2:18:26Speaker 1: is worth two hundred dollars, you able to buy it
- 2:18:29Speaker 1: for one hundred hundred. So these are these stock options.
- 2:18:33Speaker 1: They look like gambling. If you don't have a.
- 2:18:35Speaker 2: Strike, you don't understand because there is like the higher
- 2:18:38Speaker 2: riskier stock options which also have the higher you know,
- 2:18:41Speaker 2: but then it.
- 2:18:42Speaker 1: Just goes to your risk analysis to be like maybe
- 2:18:46Speaker 1: you only put five percent of your money right.
- 2:18:48Speaker 2: And then on the stock side, I always tell people,
- 2:18:49Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, like the stock market unless you're day trading,
- 2:18:54Speaker 2: it's like yo, like you're not losing unless you sell.
- 2:18:56Speaker 1: So the stock market, I think, especially right now, is
- 2:18:59Speaker 1: pretty easy.
- 2:19:00Speaker 2: Like the video that Monday, I have a ton in
- 2:19:02Speaker 2: the video. So Monday when it went down to like
- 2:19:04Speaker 2: one another ten granded. I was like, oh, this is
- 2:19:07Speaker 2: it's on sale when it was ninety nine dollars last week.
- 2:19:11Speaker 1: More. See that's the reverse mindset is when somebody see
- 2:19:14Speaker 1: it going up, that's when they want to buy. Right.
- 2:19:16Speaker 1: So the money is made want the market.
- 2:19:18Speaker 2: Because I don't plan on selling. I ain't selling the video.
- 2:19:21Speaker 1: You want to increase your position and then you can
- 2:19:23Speaker 1: always borrow against it so you never have to sell
- 2:19:25Speaker 1: it if you want to. The goal is how many
- 2:19:29Speaker 1: assets cannot own stocks, crypto, gold, real estate, right, whatever
- 2:19:34Speaker 1: it is, own assets and you're not buying crypto. You're
- 2:19:38Speaker 1: exchanging one currency from another. Right if you believe that bitcoin,
- 2:19:42Speaker 1: And this is my whole thing, it's why I teach
- 2:19:44Speaker 1: people just play off the highs. So let's say if
- 2:19:47Speaker 1: crypto is down, do you and this is a simple analogy,
- 2:19:51Speaker 1: It's like if you think that the theyalm reaches all
- 2:19:53Speaker 1: time high again, right, it's one thousand dollars from its
- 2:19:56Speaker 1: all time high. That mean if you buy it right
- 2:19:59Speaker 1: now and it goes up one thousand dollars, you benefit
- 2:20:02Speaker 1: from that. The question is when you ask yourself that question,
- 2:20:05Speaker 1: if it's a yes, then buy it. If it's a no,
- 2:20:08Speaker 1: then don't.
- 2:20:09Speaker 2: I also, like like you said, like even in the
- 2:20:11Speaker 2: crypto space, not to get into too much of the weeds,
- 2:20:13Speaker 2: but you can actually see what the like wallets do.
- 2:20:16Speaker 1: And you know, then you can just study the cycles,
- 2:20:18Speaker 1: the cycle. There's a bitcoin cycle, right every four years.
- 2:20:23Speaker 1: It reacts to a cycle. It has lows, it has highs,
- 2:20:26Speaker 1: it retracts, then it goes back.
- 2:20:28Speaker 2: And I think it hit eighty nine thousands right before Christmas,
- 2:20:32Speaker 2: because like in eighty nine ninety thousand exceup to like
- 2:20:34Speaker 2: one on one. Now I think it was right when
- 2:20:35Speaker 2: he reaches.
- 2:20:36Speaker 1: The high one o seven, one on eight.
- 2:20:38Speaker 2: Then it goes back down. It's like, you know, something's
- 2:20:40Speaker 2: got to happen for to break that resistance point. We'll see.
- 2:20:42Speaker 1: But even the easiest thing is just a dollar cost
- 2:20:44Speaker 1: average for the average person, right.
- 2:20:46Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like, are you what is your strategy?
- 2:20:48Speaker 2: You're trying to hit a quick lick, because that's the
- 2:20:50Speaker 2: other problem.
- 2:20:51Speaker 1: Well, see, that's that's what I like to teach. So
- 2:20:53Speaker 1: like when we do crypto, we do tokenomics, right, how
- 2:20:56Speaker 1: do you actually study the token economics that's basically going
- 2:21:00Speaker 1: in the behind the scenes and read the white paper,
- 2:21:03Speaker 1: who is behind it, who's in the project? Right? I
- 2:21:06Speaker 1: give strategies to how people can analyze something for themselves
- 2:21:09Speaker 1: or they don't need nobody else. Right, So now they
- 2:21:11Speaker 1: can look at every crypto and know which one is
- 2:21:13Speaker 1: going to be a rug pull, which one is risky,
- 2:21:15Speaker 1: which one is a long term back, how to go
- 2:21:18Speaker 1: study trends, who to follow on Twitter?
- 2:21:19Speaker 2: Even to the plot like Solano, right, it's like, well,
- 2:21:23Speaker 2: all of these it feels like a lot of these
- 2:21:26Speaker 2: big popular mean coins they run on that network.
- 2:21:28Speaker 1: Because it's cheaper and faster and easier and Ethereum blockchain
- 2:21:32Speaker 1: it should be higher, but they haven't been able to
- 2:21:34Speaker 1: decrease fees yet. So the owner of it is Vitalic Bureau,
- 2:21:38Speaker 1: and he just put out a paper said that he
- 2:21:40Speaker 1: gonna make your more robust, He's gonna improve It hasn't
- 2:21:42Speaker 1: happened yet. So a lot of people are in the
- 2:21:44Speaker 1: belief that Ethereum, especially after the mean coin cycle ends,
- 2:21:48Speaker 1: is going to be the one that gets all of
- 2:21:50Speaker 1: that track. And that was the NFT platform everybody, and
- 2:21:53Speaker 1: those were expensive because people were NFTs and then the
- 2:21:56Speaker 1: fees were so high that you would lose hell of
- 2:21:58Speaker 1: money in the fees trying to buy it project. Yeah.
- 2:22:01Speaker 2: And then I'm like, I'm looking at that world liberty,
- 2:22:04Speaker 2: that Trump, Yeah, Trump's behind it. I'm like, they're buying out.
- 2:22:07Speaker 2: If you have an insane amount of ethereum, they must.
- 2:22:10Speaker 1: Know selling people the ethereum is gonna hit. I promise
- 2:22:13Speaker 1: you it's gonna hit.
- 2:22:14Speaker 2: They must.
- 2:22:14Speaker 1: This is our financial advice. You know what I'm saying.
- 2:22:17Speaker 1: But I gotta say that. But go study. So here's
- 2:22:21Speaker 1: another thing. It's like, if you looks at there's if
- 2:22:25Speaker 1: AI projects win, RWA projects win, do you have to
- 2:22:28Speaker 1: ask yourself what chain this is the homework for you
- 2:22:30Speaker 1: all to do? What crypto would benefit the most that
- 2:22:33Speaker 1: they have to run those projects on. Right when something
- 2:22:36Speaker 1: becomes popular, look at where all of the attention and
- 2:22:38Speaker 1: energy is going to go through. What's the utility? Right now?
- 2:22:40Speaker 1: Means it? Yes? Hot, Right, you can turn ten dollars
- 2:22:44Speaker 1: into a million dollars if you of the one percent
- 2:22:47Speaker 1: that get that goddamn lucky right. Or you have a
- 2:22:50Speaker 1: super strategy to where you know how to create a
- 2:22:51Speaker 1: buying this sniper project fast, or you inside and insider circle.
- 2:22:56Speaker 1: If that's not you, right, then your risk of tolerance
- 2:23:00Speaker 1: is way too high for you to just be jumping
- 2:23:02Speaker 1: into every mean coin thinking you go win. Now. Another
- 2:23:05Speaker 1: thing is people missing this element or just create your
- 2:23:08Speaker 1: own I'm a big fan. Like when NFT cycle was
- 2:23:11Speaker 1: going through, I was telling people to create the damn project.
- 2:23:14Speaker 1: You don't have to just go consume, consume, consume. There's
- 2:23:17Speaker 1: nothing stopping you from creating your own blockchain.
- 2:23:19Speaker 2: Probu I mean, I mean, and then you know, even like.
- 2:23:22Speaker 1: Some of the artists who got to like Toy, Yeah,
- 2:23:24Speaker 1: Tory Pioneer, why nobody take that same strategy and will
- 2:23:27Speaker 1: with it.
- 2:23:27Speaker 2: Snoop tried. I mean, Snoop tried. Snoop changed his life off.
- 2:23:30Speaker 1: A grew man. If a Kendrick and a Drake wanted
- 2:23:33Speaker 1: to drop a project on the blockchain and all that
- 2:23:36Speaker 1: money come direct to them, Yeah, it's like people are lazy,
- 2:23:40Speaker 1: that's all it is. And we don't want to I mean,
- 2:23:42Speaker 1: we don't actually need the institutions the way we think
- 2:23:45Speaker 1: we do. No, we're just so used to.
- 2:23:47Speaker 2: It being And it's also the advanced culture of the
- 2:23:49Speaker 2: music industry. It's like I could just turn this album
- 2:23:52Speaker 2: in and I could get a million dollars real quick.
- 2:23:55Speaker 1: Or you could, but that's lazy again, it could no,
- 2:23:58Speaker 1: because then I see I've seen an nobody, I mean
- 2:24:01Speaker 1: a goddamn nobody literally on Twitter drop a mean coin
- 2:24:05Speaker 1: and go up to fifty million dollars, right, But no utility,
- 2:24:09Speaker 1: no promise, is nothing that means fifty million dollars worth
- 2:24:12Speaker 1: of money went into that. Now, you can't tell me
- 2:24:15Speaker 1: as an artist being one of the most influential in
- 2:24:17Speaker 1: the world, right, if you got the ability to drop
- 2:24:20Speaker 1: an album, this album is represented right by your attention
- 2:24:24Speaker 1: and your influence, right, And this is the utility everybody
- 2:24:27Speaker 1: who buy into my goddamn coin, there's actual mutility. Too
- 2:24:30Speaker 1: much money you think you're gonna make from that, You
- 2:24:32Speaker 1: will make more money than any musician in the history
- 2:24:35Speaker 1: of time of one album, of one goddamn song.
- 2:24:39Speaker 2: We walk of a song that's wrong. By the coin,
- 2:24:41Speaker 2: you get the song.
- 2:24:42Speaker 1: And then you can decide to add any other value.
- 2:24:45Speaker 2: And if Kendrick does that, everyone's buying the coin.
- 2:24:47Speaker 1: Well, look at how Kanye West became a billionaire. Again.
- 2:24:50Speaker 1: And I always said Kanye West is a billing a
- 2:24:52Speaker 1: regardless of Adidas, because he brought the value.
- 2:24:54Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, so, but What.
- 2:24:56Speaker 1: Did he do though, so Kanye West, he dropped them.
- 2:25:00Speaker 1: He was complaining, he went through all of the things
- 2:25:02Speaker 1: he went through there, we've seen him go crazy.
- 2:25:04Speaker 2: Never want somebody get their bank account taken.
- 2:25:05Speaker 1: Away from But what did he really do right in
- 2:25:09Speaker 1: a long term, is he set it up to where
- 2:25:11Speaker 1: he can get all of that traffic coming to him.
- 2:25:13Speaker 1: Now if he can capture that traffic, and he went
- 2:25:15Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. He paid with twenty million dollars
- 2:25:18Speaker 1: right and then it costs him zero dollars to run
- 2:25:21Speaker 1: the actual commercial. And he did it, and then people
- 2:25:23Speaker 1: bought all of that. What did he get from that data?
- 2:25:26Speaker 1: He got all that data. What does that allow him
- 2:25:28Speaker 1: to do? Take all of those Yeezy fans and retarget
- 2:25:30Speaker 1: then whenever he wants to. Then he complained to it
- 2:25:32Speaker 1: and said that goddamn Adidas is stealing all of my traffic.
- 2:25:36Speaker 1: Anytime I tell people to go to Yeasy, they reverting
- 2:25:39Speaker 1: it to Adidas. Adida stopped doing it right then right
- 2:25:42Speaker 1: after that, Now he's able to get all of that traffic.
- 2:25:44Speaker 1: Now he like evaluate this, he's evaluating his ability to
- 2:25:48Speaker 1: go direct to consumer and now that's worth for a billion, He's.
- 2:25:51Speaker 2: Worth two point three three billion or so right now.
- 2:25:54Speaker 1: Point two take that same thing on the blockchain, right,
- 2:25:57Speaker 1: you create a while that, you create a dial which
- 2:25:59Speaker 1: you can do in a day. You get you some devs.
- 2:26:02Speaker 1: You take that same attention. Right, you drop a tweet
- 2:26:05Speaker 1: on Twitter. You don't need no email list. Everybody who
- 2:26:08Speaker 1: sees this is part of your email. If Kanye dropped
- 2:26:11Speaker 1: a Yeasy coin, it would melt. I mean, I mean, dude,
- 2:26:13Speaker 1: we're talking, come on now. So when this is what
- 2:26:16Speaker 1: I evaluate, I look at your each influencer as an economy.
- 2:26:21Speaker 1: If you can move the GDP, right, if you can
- 2:26:25Speaker 1: influence the money of a million people, how much is
- 2:26:28Speaker 1: that worth? That's worth billions? Then you have someone that
- 2:26:32Speaker 1: can that's a country. Right. Then you have some people
- 2:26:35Speaker 1: maybe can only influence one hundred thousand. That's a state.
- 2:26:38Speaker 1: Some people that can influence ten thousand to fifty thousand,
- 2:26:41Speaker 1: that's a city. Then you got small town influences. If
- 2:26:45Speaker 1: each one sees themselves as an economy, because that's their value,
- 2:26:48Speaker 1: is their ability to influence attention and currency. Right, So,
- 2:26:52Speaker 1: then and if an advertiser pays them based on their
- 2:26:56Speaker 1: ability to influence money and attention and that's how much
- 2:27:00Speaker 1: your work. But you never got that evaluation, and you're
- 2:27:03Speaker 1: not putting an infrastructure behind that blockchain. Give you that
- 2:27:06Speaker 1: instant infrastructure to make that money and not have to
- 2:27:09Speaker 1: go to nobody else.
- 2:27:10Speaker 2: It's funny to think that the Hawk Tubur girl had
- 2:27:13Speaker 2: the influence she had.
- 2:27:14Speaker 1: Well, the Hot Tour Girl played off the fact that
- 2:27:17Speaker 1: she is a meme.
- 2:27:18Speaker 2: She was a meme celebrity, meme celebrity dropping a meme coin.
- 2:27:21Speaker 1: So it made sense because it was cheap attention. And
- 2:27:23Speaker 1: I thought anybody that got mad at her, you only
- 2:27:25Speaker 1: followed her because she was a meme.
- 2:27:27Speaker 2: I'm not even sure she ate like she probably should
- 2:27:30Speaker 2: have off that. I think the developers probably was.
- 2:27:33Speaker 1: Developers and I'm sure inside snipers that got her a Yeah.
- 2:27:36Speaker 2: It's funny because I uh, maybe five six months ago,
- 2:27:40Speaker 2: I was telling the homies, I'm like, bro, we got
- 2:27:43Speaker 2: to I don't know how to do a mean coin,
- 2:27:44Speaker 2: but we gotta do a Baron coin. I was like,
- 2:27:48Speaker 2: this is like and then even even like two.
- 2:27:50Speaker 1: Months ago, you could make a mean coin instantly, I
- 2:27:53Speaker 1: was like, yo, and there's no Barren coin. And my
- 2:27:56Speaker 1: homie popped up and went off and I was like, full,
- 2:28:01Speaker 1: we should have did the barren coin. Yeah.
- 2:28:02Speaker 2: Now obviously there's like you know, however you feel about
- 2:28:07Speaker 2: like hitting a quick look like that off of people
- 2:28:09Speaker 2: who buy into that shit. I don't know, but it's
- 2:28:12Speaker 2: there's there's opportunities.
- 2:28:14Speaker 1: Well, and here's the thing, there's no reason you can't
- 2:28:16Speaker 1: make it long term and actually do something impactful with
- 2:28:18Speaker 1: the money. I think that the biggest problem that I
- 2:28:20Speaker 1: see with the mean coin industry is that where does
- 2:28:22Speaker 1: the money go? Yeah, like once it's gone, right, you
- 2:28:25Speaker 1: got these little degeneras just sitting in a computer and
- 2:28:28Speaker 1: you feel me watching porn, making goddamn millions of dollars
- 2:28:30Speaker 1: and do nothing effective to society. I would love to
- 2:28:34Speaker 1: see somebody actually win off of it, that would do
- 2:28:37Speaker 1: something beneficial to the world. We're doing all of these
- 2:28:39Speaker 1: benefit concepts for fire victims while there's hundreds of millions
- 2:28:42Speaker 1: of dollars going into coins, Right, who is this new
- 2:28:45Speaker 1: class of money? The truth of it is is behind
- 2:28:47Speaker 1: these coins is these vcs. Right, there's hundreds of millions
- 2:28:50Speaker 1: of dollars in these firms and they're propping the coins up.
- 2:28:53Speaker 1: So what they do is they're set up a bot.
- 2:28:56Speaker 1: The bot would then make it look like organic activity
- 2:28:58Speaker 1: through different way. Yeah, you'll see these Twitter right pull
- 2:29:02Speaker 1: on the for you. Yeah, they got bots and I'm
- 2:29:05Speaker 1: talking about the boss that connected to a wallet that's
- 2:29:08Speaker 1: buying it. Yeah, to make it look like it's going up.
- 2:29:10Speaker 1: So now when you buying, you actually liquidity for them.
- 2:29:14Speaker 1: There's a site called pump fund that everybody utilizes. You
- 2:29:17Speaker 1: connect the fantom wilet, you can create a coin under
- 2:29:19Speaker 1: five minutes. Then there's a site called fund your Meme.
- 2:29:21Speaker 1: Fund your Meme is a little more sophisticated in the
- 2:29:24Speaker 1: sense that you can control the token economics on the
- 2:29:28Speaker 1: back end. Right. So essentially, if you got an idea
- 2:29:31Speaker 1: and instead of funding a project on I forgot the
- 2:29:35Speaker 1: other site that they got. But the fund your meme
- 2:29:37Speaker 1: is saying that, listen, you want to do the barn coin.
- 2:29:40Speaker 1: Your homies they put up money and say you initially
- 2:29:42Speaker 1: want to raise fifty thousand for it. So each person
- 2:29:45Speaker 1: in your group is putting a little money in and
- 2:29:47Speaker 1: they represent the liquidity, the money that builds it up. Right,
- 2:29:50Speaker 1: And so then when your coin drop is already at
- 2:29:53Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars market cap already at one hundred thousand
- 2:29:55Speaker 1: dollars market cap. So now you as an investor that's
- 2:29:58Speaker 1: looking for coins, you see it and be like, oh snap,
- 2:30:01Speaker 1: this coin going up. So now you start buying in.
- 2:30:03Speaker 1: That becomes a trickle effect. You go to your telegram,
- 2:30:06Speaker 1: your Twitter, your Instagram, you sharing it the same way
- 2:30:09Speaker 1: a post goes viral. Is down there, the same way
- 2:30:11Speaker 1: a coin go viral. You feel me, and then that
- 2:30:13Speaker 1: attention gets converted into currency.
- 2:30:16Speaker 2: It's an interesting matter of cashing out before right before
- 2:30:20Speaker 2: the you know, the inevitable, and.
- 2:30:23Speaker 1: So you can do it that way, or you can
- 2:30:26Speaker 1: take a mean coin and you can connect it to
- 2:30:29Speaker 1: a dial. So let's say it goes up and we
- 2:30:31Speaker 1: taking five percent of this and putting into a treasury.
- 2:30:34Speaker 1: So regardless of what happens, we go lock a certain
- 2:30:36Speaker 1: amount of money in and then I'll let y'all vote
- 2:30:39Speaker 1: on what y'all want to do with it. Right, you
- 2:30:41Speaker 1: give them a couple of options. Well, listen, I want
- 2:30:43Speaker 1: to do this real estate project. We got fifty million
- 2:30:45Speaker 1: in here, y'all want to build it. This is the
- 2:30:47Speaker 1: way my mind works when I look at these things,
- 2:30:50Speaker 1: like we're gonna go plain about shit, we go boycott Target. Okay,
- 2:30:53Speaker 1: but what's a better target. You know what I'm saying,
- 2:30:55Speaker 1: Save your goddamn self. Let's go utilize this blockchain to
- 2:30:58Speaker 1: build infrastructure projects to where we can take the attention
- 2:31:01Speaker 1: on things and we can get them instantly funded. It
- 2:31:05Speaker 1: only makes sense to me. I've been teaching this for
- 2:31:07Speaker 1: years now, is just to focus on fuck it, I'm
- 2:31:09Speaker 1: just gonna build this shit it. We don't like to
- 2:31:11Speaker 1: listen to stuff when it's early.
- 2:31:14Speaker 2: How do we stop letting.
- 2:31:16Speaker 1: Letting?
- 2:31:17Speaker 2: Uh? Just I feel like it's so easy for you know,
- 2:31:23Speaker 2: I would say this last political cycle, what happened again?
- 2:31:25Speaker 2: I felt like there was like a point in time
- 2:31:26Speaker 2: where everybody was kind of I wouldn't necessarily say not divided,
- 2:31:30Speaker 2: but kind of like more like, you know, kind of
- 2:31:32Speaker 2: moving a little bit in the same direction in terms
- 2:31:34Speaker 2: of like not liking the way things were going. And
- 2:31:36Speaker 2: then as soon as the flip was switched and Kamala
- 2:31:39Speaker 2: got put in, and it just turned into this whole
- 2:31:42Speaker 2: like I saw pundits and personalities I respect just flip
- 2:31:46Speaker 2: like right away and like fall in line with whatever
- 2:31:50Speaker 2: narrative each side would want you to fall in line.
- 2:31:52Speaker 1: With it, because it was always fake. If you if
- 2:31:55Speaker 1: you're getting paid to push something that's fake. If you're
- 2:31:59Speaker 1: already aligned with it and you happen to get paid,
- 2:32:01Speaker 1: that's different. But let's be honest. Most rappers who took
- 2:32:04Speaker 1: money for Kamala, they don't leave in Kamala. They didn't
- 2:32:07Speaker 1: care about nothing she was talking about. But it was
- 2:32:09Speaker 1: a good check. And that what happens on both sides.
- 2:32:12Speaker 1: They're giving good checks, so guess what you go get
- 2:32:15Speaker 1: in line. But then what you realize is that they're
- 2:32:18Speaker 1: more incentivized for Donald Trump to be in office because
- 2:32:21Speaker 1: they go benefit because a lot of them got some money, right,
- 2:32:24Speaker 1: so when he get in office, they're like, well, shit,
- 2:32:25Speaker 1: Kamala gave me money, but Trump will help me make money.
- 2:32:28Speaker 1: You feel me, So again it becomes just capitalism. I
- 2:32:31Speaker 1: think what we have to do right, And this is
- 2:32:34Speaker 1: why I don't believe in all of this superficial unity,
- 2:32:37Speaker 1: because it's fake. If you got to force people to
- 2:32:40Speaker 1: do something, then it's not real. You find people that's
- 2:32:42Speaker 1: already aligne and I think that those who think that
- 2:32:46Speaker 1: their line got to stop being afraid to actually work
- 2:32:48Speaker 1: together and build shit behind the scenes. It's not that
- 2:32:50Speaker 1: goddamn hard bro A reason I think like. The way
- 2:32:53Speaker 1: I think is because growing up in Oakland, I've seen
- 2:32:55Speaker 1: a man do stuff like this, Right, I didn't grow
- 2:32:58Speaker 1: up looking at the Civil Rights era. I grew up
- 2:33:00Speaker 1: looking at black Muslims that have money and power. So
- 2:33:03Speaker 1: as a child, I'm looking at we riding down Oakland
- 2:33:06Speaker 1: in an all black motor K ten cars deep. You
- 2:33:09Speaker 1: feel me hopping out in every hood, drilling, showing militant discipline.
- 2:33:12Speaker 1: And then this guy owns schools and restaurants and security firms.
- 2:33:16Speaker 1: So on my mind, this is what black people can do.
- 2:33:19Speaker 1: Most people ain't grow up with that. You feel me
- 2:33:21Speaker 1: be also grew up in the hoods of Saint Louis
- 2:33:23Speaker 1: and in different hoods in Oakland, so I get a
- 2:33:25Speaker 1: different nuance. Also have corporate jobs, also hustled in the streets.
- 2:33:29Speaker 1: I've been locked up. I didn't live vicarious different hats
- 2:33:34Speaker 1: and experience.
- 2:33:35Speaker 2: You have real perspective, which a lot of people don't.
- 2:33:37Speaker 1: So it's also why I think so goddamned differently. And
- 2:33:41Speaker 1: the mainstream thought process is a loser's mindset, and so
- 2:33:44Speaker 1: for me it's like, no, everything we should be thinking
- 2:33:47Speaker 1: about doing right now behind the scenes is how do
- 2:33:49Speaker 1: we organize and execute. Right? How do we buy assets collectively? Right?
- 2:33:54Speaker 1: Everybody don't need to be involved, but those who you
- 2:33:57Speaker 1: findly have common insurance values, resources, and network or have
- 2:34:00Speaker 1: your conversations behind the scenes include me in them. If
- 2:34:03Speaker 1: it makes sense, you feel me in. Let's build.
- 2:34:05Speaker 2: Have you been able to build a Snoop? It all?
- 2:34:07Speaker 1: Me and Snoop met a couple of times. I'm waiting
- 2:34:09Speaker 1: on Snoop to come on the platform.
- 2:34:11Speaker 2: I guess it was a little it was. I hated
- 2:34:13Speaker 2: to see like some of the collective like outrage about
- 2:34:19Speaker 2: Snoop performing at David sax event. I'm like, you know,
- 2:34:21Speaker 2: David Saxes his boy like Snoop is one of the
- 2:34:24Speaker 2: most crypto forward thinking artists there is. And I felt
- 2:34:28Speaker 2: like the narrative of it being like an official inauguration
- 2:34:31Speaker 2: event on CNN, like you would see on CNN Snoop
- 2:34:34Speaker 2: Doggs performing at the inauguration as opposed to the crypto
- 2:34:39Speaker 2: ball in honor of the first crypto president who wasn't
- 2:34:42Speaker 2: even there.
- 2:34:43Speaker 1: I look at it like this, You cannot hold anybody
- 2:34:47Speaker 1: accountable if there's no collective agreement on what the coach is,
- 2:34:51Speaker 1: what our values are, what our agenda is Otherwise, it's
- 2:34:54Speaker 1: just momentary outrage without any enforceable consequences, right, get mad
- 2:35:00Speaker 1: as new for a moment and deal with what does
- 2:35:02Speaker 1: it matter? We think that our emotional outrage means something, right,
- 2:35:07Speaker 1: We we like there's a I've had my issues with
- 2:35:10Speaker 1: Isaac Hayes as a human being, as a person, things
- 2:35:13Speaker 1: that he's saying he do. But I would be hypocritical
- 2:35:18Speaker 1: to go on Instagram and push Boycotten companies, right, and
- 2:35:23Speaker 1: then not acknowledge that there's a black man with his
- 2:35:25Speaker 1: own app fan base. Yeah, so, and that's somebody I
- 2:35:30Speaker 1: don't even agree with, and I don't mind speaking about
- 2:35:32Speaker 1: their platform because it still aligns with my values. Do yourself,
- 2:35:36Speaker 1: save yourself. So I think that a lot of the
- 2:35:38Speaker 1: shit that we be talking about be fake because Mark
- 2:35:41Speaker 1: Zuckerberg is doing DEI. Twitter is with the DEI or
- 2:35:45Speaker 1: against the DEI, but we still utilize their platforms.
- 2:35:49Speaker 2: Right, it's selective outrages.
- 2:35:50Speaker 1: The selective outrage is not powerful, right, You gotta stand
- 2:35:53Speaker 1: on something. To stand on that one hundred person, I.
- 2:35:55Speaker 2: Would you just like to have seen equal outrage towards
- 2:35:58Speaker 2: a guy like like like we talked about and that
- 2:36:00Speaker 2: moment with Trump, like y'all really were like melting Snooped
- 2:36:04Speaker 2: all now, And it's like, yo, like.
- 2:36:06Speaker 1: Because that goes against the narrative that they have that
- 2:36:10Speaker 1: black men are the issue. They want to paint all
- 2:36:12Speaker 1: black men that's the issue. Right. They look at Barack
- 2:36:16Speaker 1: Obama as the outlier. They can't take the hero down.
- 2:36:19Speaker 1: He represents that civil rights demo.
- 2:36:21Speaker 2: I even think it's even worse to have taken money
- 2:36:24Speaker 2: to peddle a candidate that you don't believe in.
- 2:36:29Speaker 1: Now, Nelly was wilding. Oh yeah, Nelly was wild. You know,
- 2:36:32Speaker 1: I'm from from the Litis. He was wildly. He talking
- 2:36:34Speaker 1: about his constitutional duty. I'm a patriot and now, hey, brother,
- 2:36:39Speaker 1: you wild. You're saying too much. We wouldn't even feel
- 2:36:40Speaker 1: bad for because she caught. She she caught. Nobody was
- 2:36:45Speaker 1: even asking. Nobody really was t You didn't even need
- 2:36:47Speaker 1: to say nothing. Yeah, we we were talking about Snoop.
- 2:36:50Speaker 1: Yeah that's what we was paying attention to. Nelly just
- 2:36:53Speaker 1: jumped out the ways like I'm a patriot. Yeah, brother, relaxed.
- 2:36:56Speaker 1: You're taking them country albums too far, you know, I said.
- 2:37:00Speaker 1: But the thing was Snoop. The reason that Snoop got
- 2:37:02Speaker 1: the backlash, and I don't think it's a bad thing
- 2:37:05Speaker 1: to get backlash for things you do in the public,
- 2:37:07Speaker 1: because you know, then you just rewind. My thing is this,
- 2:37:10Speaker 1: but he did. I ain't gonna lie. I like Snoop,
- 2:37:12Speaker 1: I love Snoop. That's Snoop. But he did go hard
- 2:37:14Speaker 1: on Kanye. He went hard on Kanye. He did he
- 2:37:18Speaker 1: called him a jigga bu tap dancing.
- 2:37:20Speaker 2: My thing is, it's not the bad it's not the
- 2:37:23Speaker 2: backlash that I don't like. It's the the inaccurate narrative
- 2:37:28Speaker 2: that that just removes the context and the full details
- 2:37:32Speaker 2: and nuance of the situation.
- 2:37:34Speaker 1: Well, you're not gonna ever get critical thinking, which if
- 2:37:37Speaker 1: you want to control media, which you because you can
- 2:37:39Speaker 1: reach out to reach out to keV, reach out to Keys,
- 2:37:42Speaker 1: reach out to Joe Budden, reach out to all of
- 2:37:44Speaker 1: us that's in the media space. Give us the real story.
- 2:37:46Speaker 1: Let us run that. W rappers want to get real
- 2:37:49Speaker 1: narratives out there based on what really happened. NBA players
- 2:37:51Speaker 1: will reach out to the goddamn independent media and give
- 2:37:54Speaker 1: them the scoop. Otherwise, you deserve to be misrepresented in
- 2:37:57Speaker 1: the media. You know what I mean? How else we
- 2:37:59Speaker 1: supposed to get the true story. It's supposed to be misrepresented.
- 2:38:02Speaker 1: That's legacy media going on, whatever their agenda is. If
- 2:38:05Speaker 1: we want to cut through that, not only that, goddamn
- 2:38:08Speaker 1: help fund those media sources so they can grow and
- 2:38:10Speaker 1: become bigger. So whenever you want to control narratives, that's
- 2:38:12Speaker 1: what you gotta conglomerate. Well that's what happened.
- 2:38:15Speaker 2: I talked to Snoop's team and they were like, yo,
- 2:38:17Speaker 2: like this is David Saxon, Yeah, David Sachs is that
- 2:38:20Speaker 2: dear friend of Snoop? Yeah, Like they're like boys, yeah
- 2:38:23Speaker 2: and Snoop. I mean you saw the video.
- 2:38:26Speaker 1: But how is that narrative post behind his head?
- 2:38:30Speaker 2: There's no mag on stage, but.
- 2:38:32Speaker 1: The public goes by motion. So I think we got
- 2:38:34Speaker 1: to be strategic. We know how things are going to
- 2:38:37Speaker 1: be perceived. As you said it earlier, everybody is a journalist. Now,
- 2:38:40Speaker 1: everybody got their media platforms, but there's no journalistic integrity. Correct.
- 2:38:44Speaker 1: We don't associate whether this is a hit piece, whether
- 2:38:47Speaker 1: this is scandalous piece that's pushed out there, whether this
- 2:38:51Speaker 1: is sensationalist journalism right, or whether this is somebody actually
- 2:38:55Speaker 1: did their research and they had four to five sources
- 2:38:59Speaker 1: before they put that out there. We're just consuming things.
- 2:39:02Speaker 1: So whatever emotional thing that we most likely want to
- 2:39:06Speaker 1: believe and that fees the emotion of the day will win.
- 2:39:09Speaker 1: You have to respond to that by setting up something
- 2:39:13Speaker 1: on the back end that can be counteracting that. When
- 2:39:16Speaker 1: you want to push out information, intel, information is it's
- 2:39:20Speaker 1: militant right. Media is a military operation. The CIA pays
- 2:39:24Speaker 1: Hollywood so much money to keep control of the narratives.
- 2:39:27Speaker 1: So when you understand that, like Project Operation mocking Bird
- 2:39:31Speaker 1: and different things of that nature. Going back in time,
- 2:39:33Speaker 1: the most successful black leaders have their own media. Frederick Douglas,
- 2:39:37Speaker 1: Marcus Garvey, Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X said up the media.
- 2:39:41Speaker 1: So I'm at this point in time, you feel me
- 2:39:45Speaker 1: like number one, the rappers, the NBA players, different leaders.
- 2:39:48Speaker 1: We need to be having these conversations together so we
- 2:39:51Speaker 1: can share this knowledge and strategies with each other. I
- 2:39:53Speaker 1: had this conversation with Meek. I say, Meek, you you
- 2:39:56Speaker 1: don't want the narratives to hit a certain way, then
- 2:39:58Speaker 1: you need to fund your own power podcast, fund your
- 2:40:00Speaker 1: own media and even got to be here. YEA, yeah
- 2:40:02Speaker 1: for sure, because so like you gonna be here tours.
- 2:40:05Speaker 1: Hes gonna be misunderstood through tweets. You know some of
- 2:40:08Speaker 1: the greatest articulators of tours. You got to got your.
- 2:40:11Speaker 2: Day podcast right now. It would crack.
- 2:40:13Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure it would. Look he can come on up.
- 2:40:16Speaker 1: He invited to the high level, come sit down and
- 2:40:18Speaker 1: have a high level conversation. I at this point with
- 2:40:20Speaker 1: the coach, and we gotta stop acting like we ain't
- 2:40:22Speaker 1: got no power. Save yourself. This is how you say yourself.
- 2:40:25Speaker 2: I think we just champion people like I mean, like
- 2:40:27Speaker 2: you mentioned NBA players Jaylen Brown.
- 2:40:29Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my brother. I just had his shoes on
- 2:40:31Speaker 1: the other day. We had a good conversation and conference.
- 2:40:34Speaker 1: You know, you feel me, media that Jaylen Brown to
- 2:40:37Speaker 1: the coature. This dude has hit every metric we wanted
- 2:40:41Speaker 1: an NBA player to hit. You feel me. He's like
- 2:40:43Speaker 1: the j C. Hustle of NBA. Sure he started off
- 2:40:46Speaker 1: that way. The difference between him and Kyrie and Kyrie
- 2:40:48Speaker 1: my brother. I flew out to Kyrie a house when
- 2:40:50Speaker 1: he was going through all of that stuff to console him.
- 2:40:53Speaker 1: But the difference between is Jalen came in with that mindset,
- 2:40:56Speaker 1: Kyrie adopted it. Later, and he was learning in front
- 2:40:59Speaker 1: of the public, and when you realize when you learn
- 2:41:01Speaker 1: it from the public is shocking to you, so you
- 2:41:03Speaker 1: want to share what you're learning, Like, y'all don't notice
- 2:41:06Speaker 1: Jalen been that way, So he gets flacked from the NBA.
- 2:41:09Speaker 1: So they don't want to put him into position because
- 2:41:11Speaker 1: they're afraid of a black man with consciousness and resources.
- 2:41:14Speaker 1: But he said, f Nike, we've been telling athletes to
- 2:41:17Speaker 1: do that. He built his own shoe. We should respect that,
- 2:41:20Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That man is intelligent to
- 2:41:22Speaker 1: where he's giving speeches at Harvard and giving breakdown of
- 2:41:25Speaker 1: knowledge and say, I'm gonna take one of the biggest
- 2:41:27Speaker 1: contracts ever awarded the NBA history and guess what you're talking.
- 2:41:30Speaker 1: We're gonna build Black Wall Street, right, Like, how do
- 2:41:34Speaker 1: we not look at an NBA player like that and
- 2:41:37Speaker 1: everybody exalt that so that the next generation wants to
- 2:41:40Speaker 1: do that same thing when they get money and influence
- 2:41:42Speaker 1: and power. You feel me like this, A lot of
- 2:41:46Speaker 1: times we miss our own marks when it comes to
- 2:41:48Speaker 1: us having our media platforms. We can send out sensationalists,
- 2:41:51Speaker 1: you know, journalism and hit pieces and rumors about NBA
- 2:41:55Speaker 1: players only want to be with white girls and waste
- 2:41:58Speaker 1: their money. But get somebody that do it right. We
- 2:42:01Speaker 1: don't exalt them, we don't treat them correctly, and we
- 2:42:03Speaker 1: know legacy media I ain't gonna do it right because.
- 2:42:05Speaker 2: They don't even I mean, the NBA is always gonna
- 2:42:08Speaker 2: They're just not gonna ever Like Jalen Brown is, like
- 2:42:12Speaker 2: where he's at in terms of like he's an All Star.
- 2:42:16Speaker 2: I mean he's an amazing basketball player, yeah, but but
- 2:42:19Speaker 2: there the NBA is never gonna push him as the face.
- 2:42:21Speaker 1: In the league. They're not Jason He's supposed to. But
- 2:42:24Speaker 1: the people for stat to ship even Kyrie and shout
- 2:42:26Speaker 1: out to to j He you know, he from the
- 2:42:29Speaker 1: he from from the Loop. You know what I mean,
- 2:42:30Speaker 1: I'm connecting with him. I'll rock with him.
- 2:42:32Speaker 2: No, no, but but you get what I'm saying. It's it's
- 2:42:34Speaker 2: very like the NBA is like they you know, they
- 2:42:36Speaker 2: they know who they they know who they want to
- 2:42:38Speaker 2: put as when when you land off Star Weekend, there's
- 2:42:42Speaker 2: gonna be certain faces at the airport.
- 2:42:43Speaker 1: Jalen went to the Ice QB League. They ain't like that.
- 2:42:46Speaker 1: When you go to the Big Three and show support.
- 2:42:48Speaker 1: You feel me, NBA don't want no competition, that's that
- 2:42:51Speaker 1: you want to see none of that. So when when
- 2:42:54Speaker 1: you look at the people, they want to support the least,
- 2:42:56Speaker 1: we should support the most because it's most likely in
- 2:42:58Speaker 1: our interests out the Q two you feel me. Yeah,
- 2:43:00Speaker 1: shout out to Ice Q for sure. For sure. So yeah, man,
- 2:43:04Speaker 1: people like Jaalen Brown, I think he has an excellent
- 2:43:06Speaker 1: representation of what we want to see in the culture.
- 2:43:09Speaker 1: We should champion that more and we should force and
- 2:43:11Speaker 1: everybody should be on cold about that. Like I met
- 2:43:13Speaker 1: up with Shaques one time, and I remember when he
- 2:43:17Speaker 1: was dogging Kyrie, irving you feel me, And I had
- 2:43:20Speaker 1: to tell him, like, Bro, you know that that ain't cold.
- 2:43:22Speaker 1: You feel me. You know that you got his ability
- 2:43:25Speaker 1: to just call this man you feel me in cipher
- 2:43:27Speaker 1: with him if you believe he's moving a right or
- 2:43:29Speaker 1: wrong way right. But you know how hard it takes
- 2:43:32Speaker 1: for a black man to get in position, and you
- 2:43:34Speaker 1: know how they utilize us against each other. If you
- 2:43:37Speaker 1: are black and media and you have power and influence
- 2:43:40Speaker 1: and position, you should never use it to disrespect your
- 2:43:43Speaker 1: own right. There should never be Stephen A. Smith disrespecting
- 2:43:46Speaker 1: the brand of Jaylen Brown. We should never become tools
- 2:43:51Speaker 1: for white supremacy against each other.
- 2:43:53Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think that there's a difference between like, uh,
- 2:43:57Speaker 2: you know, being a commentator on sports, yeah, and then
- 2:44:01Speaker 2: like some of the more like sharp attacks towards people's
- 2:44:06Speaker 2: character that you that you saw with Kyrie or that.
- 2:44:08Speaker 1: Yeah, and Kyrie a good dude, man. You know, he
- 2:44:10Speaker 1: connected to his ancestral ties. You feel me. He want
- 2:44:13Speaker 1: to push out that bro. You can understand his own shoe.
- 2:44:16Speaker 2: Like think about the Kyrie thing though, Nike, about Nike,
- 2:44:19Speaker 2: he was the best selling basketball show outside of Lebron. Yeah,
- 2:44:22Speaker 2: and they were like nah, yeah, because.
- 2:44:24Speaker 1: They want that power. Everybody. Look, you got yeezy, you
- 2:44:27Speaker 1: got Kyrie's, you got the Jaylen Brown shoes.
- 2:44:29Speaker 2: Man, And yeah, and I love that Kyrie's new shoes
- 2:44:31Speaker 2: are fire.
- 2:44:32Speaker 1: Everybody should be walking around wearing those shoes, right, I
- 2:44:35Speaker 1: just got mine and yesterday everybody, Because what that represents
- 2:44:38Speaker 1: the type of time we are the most powerful thing
- 2:44:41Speaker 1: in the world. This is why it's so dangerous. Like
- 2:44:43Speaker 1: I help pioneer this financial literacy movement for our generation
- 2:44:46Speaker 1: to push that out there, and people don't understand how
- 2:44:50Speaker 1: revolutionary that is is because if I educate the consumer
- 2:44:55Speaker 1: base to shift their habits, right, then that's somebody's family
- 2:44:59Speaker 1: that you to our ignorance and benefit from it. Now
- 2:45:02Speaker 1: just bankrupted them. Right. If I'm teaching you about real
- 2:45:05Speaker 1: estate to own your own, then you don't want that
- 2:45:08Speaker 1: landlord anymore. So his family business off of you being
- 2:45:11Speaker 1: ignorant and not financially literate, it disappears. So that's why
- 2:45:15Speaker 1: we don't want to credit certain voices, right. It's a
- 2:45:19Speaker 1: reason why there's no reason why I shouldn't have been
- 2:45:21Speaker 1: awarded or some of my peers shouldn't have been awarded
- 2:45:23Speaker 1: at every black organization. But they afraid what their sponsors
- 2:45:27Speaker 1: are gonna think when you start empowering these young black men, right,
- 2:45:30Speaker 1: So instead they would rather push a gay man, a woman,
- 2:45:33Speaker 1: trans man, anything but this strong black men archetype. But
- 2:45:37Speaker 1: we've been pushing, and we go keep pushing, So y'all
- 2:45:39Speaker 1: can't You cannot then dog us down and talk shit
- 2:45:44Speaker 1: about what you want us to do if you're also
- 2:45:46Speaker 1: not the one that celebrates us when we do the
- 2:45:48Speaker 1: right thing. So we at this war internally with the
- 2:45:51Speaker 1: culture and saying that listen, I don't want a unity
- 2:45:55Speaker 1: with the NAACP if they don't know how to find
- 2:45:58Speaker 1: the voices that are different and radical and pushing the
- 2:46:00Speaker 1: right movements. There's no reason that you know, every year
- 2:46:04Speaker 1: they don't have a wah Street trap up there winning
- 2:46:07Speaker 1: an award. They don't have an Aristotle investment. They got
- 2:46:09Speaker 1: the eyl up there, master the investor for the things
- 2:46:13Speaker 1: that we've done in the culture to shift it. I mean,
- 2:46:16Speaker 1: we went all across the planet and sold out arenas, right,
- 2:46:20Speaker 1: but not a mention. So what happens is they usually
- 2:46:23Speaker 1: allow one or two to be propped up because they
- 2:46:25Speaker 1: feel like this is how they can control that. Then
- 2:46:27Speaker 1: you got the ogs that be talking they shit and
- 2:46:30Speaker 1: it's like, well, we wouldn't have to do it if
- 2:46:32Speaker 1: y'all would have did it.
- 2:46:33Speaker 2: I mean, look, and from my perspective, obviously being an outsider,
- 2:46:38Speaker 2: if there isn't radical change, then the bag stops for
- 2:46:42Speaker 2: the people who are running these places because benefit It's
- 2:46:45Speaker 2: almost like the home that's the homeless thing, right that
- 2:46:47Speaker 2: we talk about. It's the same shit. There's too many
- 2:46:49Speaker 2: people making too much money on the plight and the struggle.
- 2:46:53Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent. Listen, advertisers control more culture than
- 2:46:57Speaker 1: black leaders. Right when you go look at an award show,
- 2:47:01Speaker 1: you go look at all these places, it's the advertisers
- 2:47:05Speaker 1: that these people are afraid of. So you have somebody
- 2:47:07Speaker 1: that work in a position they might follow in nineteen keys,
- 2:47:10Speaker 1: but I wonder what are advertises to go? Think, maybe
- 2:47:13Speaker 1: we don't put him there. So then they're not looking
- 2:47:15Speaker 1: for who's actually impactful in the category. They're looking for
- 2:47:17Speaker 1: who's safe and who's popular, right, or where's the current
- 2:47:21Speaker 1: DEI going? Right? So that's what they're pushing. But this
- 2:47:25Speaker 1: is why it's not efficient. So you have these vehicles
- 2:47:28Speaker 1: to where it And the other thing is like these
- 2:47:31Speaker 1: corporations commit these billions of dollars, but they don't actually
- 2:47:34Speaker 1: deploy any money. Right when TDJ said that when the
- 2:47:38Speaker 1: banks gave him all this money, where did it go?
- 2:47:41Speaker 1: What happens is you go to them with ideas about
- 2:47:43Speaker 1: where you want to put the money and they say no.
- 2:47:45Speaker 1: So they committed over two to three years, but every
- 2:47:48Speaker 1: time you come to them with an idea, they say no.
- 2:47:50Speaker 1: So there's commitment without deployment. So it's all fake. But
- 2:47:54Speaker 1: it gave you the pr We forgot about it. We
- 2:47:57Speaker 1: don't know internally how it works. There's no efficiency on
- 2:48:01Speaker 1: our culture and it needs to be ripped apart and
- 2:48:02Speaker 1: looked at it from the inside and say, Okay, what's
- 2:48:04Speaker 1: actually happening and why aren't black people making this progress?
- 2:48:08Speaker 1: And what you realize is that the issues that they
- 2:48:10Speaker 1: push in the distraction the escape got this right. It's
- 2:48:13Speaker 1: the internal right, lack of efficiency, organization, structure right, our
- 2:48:18Speaker 1: own understanding of these systems, that's the problem. And then
- 2:48:21Speaker 1: these people that sell us out for a dollar. So
- 2:48:25Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna continue to build how I build,
- 2:48:27Speaker 1: but I understand that we are of a limited time.
- 2:48:30Speaker 1: There will be a time where it's too late. Right,
- 2:48:32Speaker 1: Black people got like one or two years of serious
- 2:48:34Speaker 1: asset accumulation, decreasing your spending, increasing your assets, learn to
- 2:48:39Speaker 1: become more human, meaning like learning human actual skills, putting
- 2:48:43Speaker 1: your head down a goddamn studying you feel me. I
- 2:48:45Speaker 1: don't care if it's cool, I don't care if it's easy.
- 2:48:47Speaker 1: I don't care. If you don't want to listen, that's
- 2:48:49Speaker 1: on you. You ain't got to be one of the
- 2:48:51Speaker 1: winners in the future. I'm talking to the people that
- 2:48:53Speaker 1: be like man, you know, what keep speaking Tomorrow Soul
- 2:48:55Speaker 1: Right now, I'm gonna get on it. You feel me,
- 2:48:57Speaker 1: Stop chasing holes and start chasing goals.
- 2:49:00Speaker 2: I love that. That's how we end the interview right there. Hey,
- 2:49:04Speaker 2: nineteen Keys, come on and stop chasing.
- 2:49:06Speaker 1: Hose and I need you to let me know how
- 2:49:08Speaker 1: you feel about that album.
- 2:49:09Speaker 2: Well I got to I'm gonna listen