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The Occult Rejects with Ashton Forbes · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: What's going to happen?
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to the Occult Rejects. Today's episode, we got a
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  Speaker 4: very very very special guest, uh, somebody that had the
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  Speaker 4: actual pleasure to meet at the Cosmic Summit. But before
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  Speaker 4: we introduce the guest, I'm going to introduce the other
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  Speaker 4: rejects that are joining us.
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  Speaker 2: And today we got my man Tyrone. What is going on? Sir?
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  Speaker 2: How are you? Please? Let everybody know where they can
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  Speaker 2: find all your amazing work.
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  Speaker 1: What's up everybody?
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  Speaker 5: What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Asking?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Broy?
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  Speaker 5: Everything you can find on me is on my website
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  Speaker 5: www dot rebirth atoword dot com. You can also buy
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  Speaker 5: my best selling book that was on Amazon, Journey through
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  Speaker 5: the Origins of History.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Nick, you say it, Bro.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, thank you for joining us. And we got
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  Speaker 4: my man Headless Giant. What is going on, sir?
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  Speaker 6: How are you doing? You can find me on Twitter
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  Speaker 6: at the Headless Giant and on YouTube Headless Giant as well.
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  Speaker 6: Check out my Instagram page. I'm going to be putting
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  Speaker 6: up a bunch of art there. And if you have
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  Speaker 6: any sort of paranormal slash strange dream stories, you can
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  Speaker 6: email it to me at the Headless Giant Podcast at
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  Speaker 6: gmail dot com and we will read those on Thursdays tomorrow.
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  Speaker 6: I got my buddies Ricardo and Ethan Indigo coming on
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  Speaker 6: to do our trialogues on Sunday, so definitely check that out.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you awesome, Thank you very much, sir.
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  Speaker 4: And we got Doc Brown Prometheus Lens joining us today.
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  Speaker 4: What is going on, sir?
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  Speaker 2: How are you? Thank you very much for making.
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  Speaker 7: It and I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 7: I'm honored to be part of this panel. Man as
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  Speaker 7: excited when you told me who he had coming on
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  Speaker 7: and you invitted me to come on, So I'm extremely
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  Speaker 7: grateful for the opportunity to sit down and talk with
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  Speaker 7: this man. But yeah, Prometheus Linn's podcast is my show.
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  Speaker 7: Websites Prometheus linnspodcast dot com anywhere you can consume content,
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  Speaker 7: you can find find me there. And also I had
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  Speaker 7: a book I just released this year. You can find
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  Speaker 7: and seed War.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Nick, I appreciate it, of course, no,
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  Speaker 2: thank you, And we got Sarah What is going on? Sarah?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much for making it. Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, thanks for having me. I'm Sarah.
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  Speaker 3: I am public relations for the Institute for Natural Philosophy,
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  Speaker 3: so I will be filling in for Ricardo today. I'm
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  Speaker 3: also the co host of the Universal Unveiled podcast, so
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  Speaker 3: be sure to check that out.
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  Speaker 4: Awesome, Thank you very much. Definitely go check out that podcast.
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  Speaker 4: They've had some really good guests on so far. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I was one of them. So and then finally finally
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  Speaker 4: to the man of the episode. But you know, before
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  Speaker 4: I introduced Ashon, I do want to say that when
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  Speaker 4: I was at the Cosmic Summit, there's a few things
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  Speaker 4: I had noticed that there was a few speakers there
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  Speaker 4: that actually seemed to hang out with the crowd and
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  Speaker 4: the people more than others instead of just hanging out
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  Speaker 4: with the other speakers. And besides Billy Carson, I will
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  Speaker 4: say that Ashton Forbes, in my opinion, was probably with
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  Speaker 4: the people the most. They saw him hanging out with
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  Speaker 4: them talking to him. He's out there on his computer,
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  Speaker 4: he's trolling people on Twitter. Way he's hanging out with
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  Speaker 4: his friends at the Cosmic Summit. It was unreal, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, this is a real motherfucker. I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna beg him to come on the show and he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna do it eventually because he got tired of me asking.
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  Speaker 2: So here he is, Ashton.
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  Speaker 4: And before before we get into the show, something I
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  Speaker 4: just want to mention for the people who are into
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  Speaker 4: the occult. I don't want to kind of screw up
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  Speaker 4: the flow of the show today because it's gonna be
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  Speaker 4: a lot more science and technical, but something that we
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  Speaker 4: have talked about before. Even when it comes to nine
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  Speaker 4: to eleven, every one of those planes was an Alice
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  Speaker 4: the Crowley book. It was a number that matched Alice
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  Speaker 4: to Crowley. The Boeing seven seven seven matches Alice to
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  Speaker 4: Crowley seven seven seven, and he does even have a
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  Speaker 4: book that's liber three seventy. So again I just do
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  Speaker 4: find it interesting how what's going on with this plane?
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  Speaker 4: Even the numbers match Crowley again, So think of it
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  Speaker 4: whatever you will with that. But now we're gonna get
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  Speaker 4: into some smart stuff. I'm gonna ask me a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of questions to explain things that I don't understand. So Ashton,
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  Speaker 4: please let everybody know what your deal is, what you're about,
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  Speaker 4: and where they can find all of your amazing works.
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  Speaker 2: Please.
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  Speaker 1: I'm the ORB guy. Now I'm I May three to
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  Speaker 1: seven zero guy. I don't know, I go buy a
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  Speaker 1: lot of names. People call me. Some people call me
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  Speaker 1: the UFO guy, which is weird because I don't really
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  Speaker 1: talk about aliens or UFOs that much. But I guess
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  Speaker 1: it just comes with the territory. So I became like
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  Speaker 1: e famous, I guess you could say from researching the
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  Speaker 1: MH three seven zero videos, some very controversial videos that
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  Speaker 1: are out there that date back to twenty fourteen. After
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  Speaker 1: Malaysian Airlines Flight three seven zero disappeared on March seventh,
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  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. These videos began to re emerge or emerge
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  Speaker 1: for the first time around May nineteenth of twenty fourteen,
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  Speaker 1: but we just ignored them for like nine ten years basically,
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  Speaker 1: and then even when I started to promote them and
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  Speaker 1: investigate them, there was so much controversy over them. People say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: these people are you know, disinfo or FEDS attacking you
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  Speaker 1: or what have you. But I think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: it's really just like we are just now as a
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  Speaker 1: species starting to wake up to that type of technology,
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  Speaker 1: that type of physics, that type of science being able
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  Speaker 1: to be real. The same way where like cavemen would
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  Speaker 1: have struggled with like understanding why we have like an iPhone,
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  Speaker 1: Like how can this be a thing that's real? You know,
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  Speaker 1: that wouldn't be something they could understand either. So I've
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  Speaker 1: been investigating. I started by investigating the plane and realizing
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  Speaker 1: that like those videos are real and there is a
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy around the missing plane, and then took it in
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  Speaker 1: another direction where I said, Okay, well, I mean something
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  Speaker 1: this incredible, like how is this scientifically possible? How is
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  Speaker 1: this physically possible? And to me that was the biggest revelation,
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  Speaker 1: which was finding out that the science to support it,
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  Speaker 1: like this idea of zero point energy basically is out there.
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  Speaker 1: The papers have been written. It goes back you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe seventy eighty one hundred years, maybe all the way
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  Speaker 1: back to Tesla essentially, And that's where this journey has
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  Speaker 1: taken me today, is trying to understand that physics zero
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  Speaker 1: point energy and realizing that it all leads back to
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  Speaker 1: plasma and nuke's actually, which means it leads back to
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  Speaker 1: fusion as well. So the craziest part is it all
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  Speaker 1: kind of comes full circle. Where I went from an
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  Speaker 1: area of like, Okay, this is impossible, like this would
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  Speaker 1: require magical new physics to oh, no, that the physics
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  Speaker 1: is actually all out there, but you know it's been suppressed,
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  Speaker 1: and then realizing like, no, the physics is just out there,
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  Speaker 1: but like literally all the Department of Energy labs are
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  Speaker 1: like literally researching this, and I'm going like, we just
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  Speaker 1: not we don't pay attention to what they're doing. Like
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  Speaker 1: that's that seems to me the answer. So that's the
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  Speaker 1: long winded answer to who I am.
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  Speaker 2: Nice, Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 6: That's a.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 6: I think if if people knew more about the Department
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  Speaker 6: of Energy, we wouldn't be in this situation. Is there
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  Speaker 6: a quick way that you can describe to people all
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  Speaker 6: the roles that Department of Energy has in this sort
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  Speaker 6: of development.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think the most edge occational thing people should
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  Speaker 1: learn is how the research functions. So you have Aerospace Corporation,
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  Speaker 1: and you have Battel Institute and Betel sorry, Bettel Institute
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  Speaker 1: is the ones that's like the contractor for all the labs,
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  Speaker 1: so they actually manage all the labs like eleven billion
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  Speaker 1: dollars per year, but that's all just federal money. They
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  Speaker 1: don't have any commercial clients, so it's basically our tax dollars, right,
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  Speaker 1: But because it's being filtered through this third party management
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  Speaker 1: company where all the labs would be managed, my guess
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  Speaker 1: is they use that to shield things from fouer requests
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  Speaker 1: because now it's not government anymore. So that's the first
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  Speaker 1: thing people need to know. Then Aerospace Corporation they also
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  Speaker 1: get like a billion dollars every year from the government.
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  Speaker 1: Not they're like federal non for profits is what they
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  Speaker 1: call them. And these are the people that actually outsource
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  Speaker 1: these scientists. So if you're an engineer, what have you like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you get a contract, it goes through Aerospace Corporation, but
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  Speaker 1: it might be for like a DOE lab to work
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  Speaker 1: on this plasma blah blah blah. So that's the important
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  Speaker 1: thing to understand is how is the how's the funding
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  Speaker 1: work for the DOE. I think the other thing that
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  Speaker 1: people understand that's important in this context is more I
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  Speaker 1: would say speculative, which is why is the DOE connected
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  Speaker 1: to the UFO topic? Like everybody says, oh, the doees
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  Speaker 1: the top dog and the que clearance of what have you? Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's because of the energy sources, Like whatever is the
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  Speaker 1: UFO is flying around with it's got to be the
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  Speaker 1: energy source. So when we are looking for the answers
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  Speaker 1: to what's what is these what are these UFOs? How
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  Speaker 1: are they flying around? How are they floating freely? How
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  Speaker 1: are they teleporting? We should probably looking at what the
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  Speaker 1: DOE is doing, because they're apparently the ones who are
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  Speaker 1: gatekeeping it. So that's where I think it leads back
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  Speaker 1: to all what are they studying in all those labs?
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  Speaker 1: Fusion plasma stabilization, like all these concepts that if you
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  Speaker 1: take them to their extreme and what you could do
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  Speaker 1: you come up with a plasma word that can like
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  Speaker 1: fly around.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 4: That was actually something I did want to get into.
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  Speaker 4: Uh honestly, I just didn't even know where to start.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I know you had gone over one thing
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  Speaker 4: I thought was awesome about the Cosmic Summit.
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  Speaker 2: You went over patents.
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  Speaker 4: Now, I don't know if that's something that you want
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  Speaker 4: to like really get into, if that's something you have
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  Speaker 4: to cover to get into orbs, But I do know
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  Speaker 4: that's something you've usually been going into recently too, is
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  Speaker 4: the whole ORB thing and what your you know, what
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  Speaker 4: is your idea of those orbs? Like what are they
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  Speaker 4: doing and how are they even there with this plane.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you want me to share.
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  Speaker 2: Video, Yeah yeah, you can, yeah share what it pull
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  Speaker 2: up whatever you want.
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  Speaker 1: Let me pull up this one because this is the
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  Speaker 1: Here's Gorgon's stair wide area motion imagery video, which is
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  Speaker 1: from a drone from above and these orbs. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't a situation where like I came up with
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  Speaker 1: an idea of what the orbs were. It was like,
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  Speaker 1: just follow the science and figure out where the science leads.
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  Speaker 1: And where the science led was a compact fusion reactor.
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  Speaker 1: It's like when you look up fusion reactors, you find
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  Speaker 1: it's just all about manipulating plasma. And these orbs are
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  Speaker 1: a plasma ball that's being contained by a magnetic field.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a solid thing around it. You can't really
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  Speaker 1: tell from this particular video. Thankfully, we have a second
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  Speaker 1: video that tells us more detail about the orbs. If
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  Speaker 1: this tells us that we got, you know, three things
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  Speaker 1: perfectly aligned in a triangle formation, and plasma can explain
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  Speaker 1: that too, because it's the magnetic fields that are causing
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  Speaker 1: it to link up in that perfect triangle, which that
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  Speaker 1: was one of the things I thought was just totally wild,
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  Speaker 1: is that we have seen orbs and triangle formations get
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  Speaker 1: talked about in the UFO community over like the last
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  Speaker 1: ten years or so. It's gotten kind of popular. Let
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  Speaker 1: me switch and show the other video real quick.
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  Speaker 4: Do those orbs switch the way the directions at some
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  Speaker 4: point too? Looks like they spin more like.
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  Speaker 1: It's really hard to tell because they're spinning three hundred
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  Speaker 1: and sixty degrees around the plane.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and once they lock in because you can use
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  Speaker 1: something called magnetic inversion. Magnetic inversion means that, like you
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  Speaker 1: have a positive and minus charge that are somewhat separated,
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  Speaker 1: and if you take two positive and minus charges that
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  Speaker 1: are separated like that and bring them close, they kind
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  Speaker 1: of get to an equilibrium point where they don't come
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  Speaker 1: together anymore, but they don't pull apart anymore. So check
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  Speaker 1: out magnet and version if that's intrigues you. The real
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  Speaker 1: giveaway here, Like, first of all, when you're looking at this,
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  Speaker 1: you look at these orbs here, that's not a solid
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  Speaker 1: structure around the orb. How do we know? Because in
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  Speaker 1: a second, you're gonna be able to basically see through them,
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  Speaker 1: like they become partially transparent. You can see that. So
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  Speaker 1: it's like, wait, that means it's not a solid thing.
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  Speaker 1: And this is how early on I was able to
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  Speaker 1: deduce that must be a plasma field, like a plasma
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  Speaker 1: structure around something inside that we can't see. But the
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  Speaker 1: other giveaways. Look at those dark lines, these guys, see
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  Speaker 1: those dark lines like behind the orbs. That actually turns
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  Speaker 1: out if you look at a different color version of this,
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  Speaker 1: which I'll show here in just a second, those dark
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  Speaker 1: lines are clearly in front of the orbs. Like even
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  Speaker 1: right here you can pretty much tell these dark lines,
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  Speaker 1: or not even behind the orbs anymore. I'm just kind
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  Speaker 1: of pausing it and one slow the dark lines are
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  Speaker 1: actually in front of the orbs. And look at the
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  Speaker 1: heat signatures spin around like that, and just I mean,
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  Speaker 1: look at the heat signature. That's the craziest thing I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen. I could even imagine someone inventing that, let alone,
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  Speaker 1: like making all these frames. You can see it distort
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  Speaker 1: a little bit there too, So it's not something that's
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  Speaker 1: like a solid structure like the airplane. It's something that's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more amorphous. But the reason why that
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  Speaker 1: you see the dark lines in front of it. Let
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  Speaker 1: me show you one last version which will make that
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  Speaker 1: part clear is because when you look into fusion, there's
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  Speaker 1: all these instabilities and all these different instabilities. Uh wait
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  Speaker 1: that canceled. Oh okay, there we go. We're gonna pull
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  Speaker 1: that up. All these different instabilities basically boil down to
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  Speaker 1: when we try to do fusion, it always tries to escape,
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  Speaker 1: and when it's escaping confinement, it's damaging the thing that's
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  Speaker 1: confining it. Usually, like these reactors have superconducting magnets and
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  Speaker 1: they have all this stuff to protect it from radiation
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  Speaker 1: and damage. But ultimately that's the reason why we can't
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  Speaker 1: keep these fusion reactors running for a long time. So
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  Speaker 1: they figured out something really smart, which was don't try
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  Speaker 1: to force it to be confined into a sphere. Let
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  Speaker 1: it leak out. Let it leak out in controlled way,
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  Speaker 1: and when you do that, then you can use it
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  Speaker 1: as propulsion. So in this you can clearly see those
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  Speaker 1: dark lines are in front of the orbs like leading
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  Speaker 1: them pretty much. So what this means is there's actually
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  Speaker 1: not that many possible effusion configurations for this. These have
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  Speaker 1: to be sphere maas. I mean, they're literally we're looking
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  Speaker 1: at a sphere, so that must be a plasma that's
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  Speaker 1: being confined in by a spherical magnetic fields. And one
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  Speaker 1: of the only ways that only configurations for this is
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  Speaker 1: something called field reverse configuration. A field reverse configuration creates
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  Speaker 1: an axial poloidal magnetic field just like the Earth. And
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  Speaker 1: with the Earth, how does the Earth work? We at
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  Speaker 1: we have a north and a south pole. If you
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  Speaker 1: imagine like a neutron star. These neutron stars have jets
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  Speaker 1: shooting out of either end of them, like what they
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  Speaker 1: call it, I don't know what the name of it is,
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  Speaker 1: some you know, death beam or they say they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: if that beam is facing us, it'll like instantly wipe
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  Speaker 1: us out. This is what they're talking about. Because these
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  Speaker 1: plasma balls are spitting out material or X rays, you know,
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  Speaker 1: out of either end of it, and they just realize, like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: we can use that as propulsion. So that's what's going
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  Speaker 1: on with the orbs at a high level.
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  Speaker 6: Well, that brings up something interesting. So these precursor sort
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  Speaker 6: of shadows, right, would that be an indication of some
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  Speaker 6: sort of cavitation containment because I think a lot of
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  Speaker 6: this comes down to this cavitation idea that we see
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  Speaker 6: that alternative energy researchers have been working on for years
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  Speaker 6: that it keeps coming up over and over again. Is
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  Speaker 6: this cavitation force field or cavitation force.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think we're talking about like an implosive
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  Speaker 1: force basically. I think that theme comes up a lot
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  Speaker 1: in these videos. First of all with the zapp but
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  Speaker 1: the plane disappearing, which I've come to conclude must be
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  Speaker 1: some form of wormhole. Wormhole is like a conceptual view
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  Speaker 1: of how we would connect two points in space and time.
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  Speaker 1: It's not really a technical how do you do this
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing? It's more of a how would you
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  Speaker 1: think about the universe and doing something like that and cavitation.
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  Speaker 1: So we also when when that plane disappears, if that
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  Speaker 1: was an explosion, I would expect this white hot explosion
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  Speaker 1: on the thermal camera and then the gorgon stair whammy.
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  Speaker 1: It's like this flash for just one like second. So
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  Speaker 1: photons are being released, but they're not hot photons because
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  Speaker 1: they're not hot in the other video. This is like
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  Speaker 1: another one of the biggest giveaways. That means that's some
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  Speaker 1: kind of endothermic reaction. It's like a monopole one half
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  Speaker 1: of a magnet. It's like one end of a magnet.
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  Speaker 1: It's blipping out and that must be blipping back in
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  Speaker 1: somewhere else. That's what it seems to represent from the
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  Speaker 1: color and the heat signatures that we're seeing on the
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  Speaker 1: videos and cavitation. This idea of implosive effect. It's almost
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  Speaker 1: like the difference between fission and fusion. So we have
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: like an A bomb, which is like a release of
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: explosion of you know, energy, But from a fusion perspective,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: is that the opposite? Like what would a fusion a
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: pure fusion bomb actually look like. This is what I
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: would challenge people because when I first had this idea
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: of like, are we looking at like a pure fusion
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: bomb with no fission, no neutrons being released as heat?
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Is that why it's like purely dark in that thermal
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: One of the things I started researching was the history
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: of it, Like, okay, well what's the history of the
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: H bomb? Well, the H bomb was figured out in
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: the sixties, but it was never dropped, at least not
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: publicly publicly. There was never an H bomb that was
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: set off and nuclear uh whatever it is, anti prohibition
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: or whatever, it was like we basically stopped making nukes
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: and what have you. So I wonder if there is
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: this connection to cavitation and implosive effect that we figured
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: out from fusion bombs, and we never showed what they do,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: and everybody in their mind is just thought, oh, yeah,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: thermonuclear bombs just like a bigger nuke, that must be
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: what it is. But what if it's not that. What
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: if it's actually just like straight up so much electromagnetic
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: energy in a region of space time and a condensed
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: region of space time that it actually just detaches that
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: region from space time, like just attaches it. That would
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: actually make kind of a lot of sense in terms
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: of like when and how they would have branched this technology.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: It would have been in the sixties when they figured
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: out fusion and they figured out this whole aspect of
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: manipulating space time from fusion bombs, and then they would
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: have had to classify inertial confinement fusion research, which is
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: also potentially linked to cavitation, because this idea of like
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: this super powerful compressive pressure force, you know, going inward
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: on your object, and so basically maybe that you know, cavitation, compression, fusion,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: all of this was suppressed while they were trying to
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: figure out h bombs and how to make the waves
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: like hit these h bombs, and to make you know,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: these these massive effects, they figured out something completely different.
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: Potentially, it would be like a different form of mathematic Right,
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: we're operating on one form of mathematics. They're operating on
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: a completely different form. And so this is where that
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: disconnect really starts to line up.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't take it that far personally. I
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: think that what I've found is that you don't need
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: new math or physics to actually figure this out. That's
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: part of the rub too, So we don't have to
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: have some oh, here's the hidden the hidden physics, here's
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: the hidden math. It's actually just conceptual perspective change, in
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: my opinion, and it's a simple one too. It's we
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: go from thinking that we're in an empty vacuum to
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: realizing we're in a medium, we're in a fish tank.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: And we do kind of think that, but we think
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: of it as like the air around us. But we
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: don't really think about the air around us. We don't
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: really think, you know, we just assume, yeah, were chilling,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and this bubble here it seems like nothing. But that's
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: also true of empty space. Empty space also isn't nothing.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: It's also not nothing. And this conceptual viewpoint change changes
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: everything because what it means then is the space the
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: distance between here and the moon or here in anywhere
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: is the zoo or a point energy that that is
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: a substance. So if you remove that substance, what happens, Oh,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you shrink the distance between here and there potentially. Now
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: this conceptual viewpoint helps understand how Einstein was right about
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: general relativity. Einstein was right. Actually, all the equations about
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: like warp drives and wormholes they come from Einstein's general relativity.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: It's a big misconception that people think that like Einstein,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: thought space was empty. No. For for Einstein was the
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: one that said there would be gravitational waves and we
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: found them, and that shows that space time is some
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: kind of medium. It's not just some fixed thing that
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: you know, is empty.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I asked, and I had a question.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: When I first seen that video, I thought that was
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: pretty fascinating. But the past few years I've seen some
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: people that posted on REDIT and they were going through
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: and they were editors and looking at this stuff.
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: I didn't know.
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: I wanted to get your comments on the people that
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: claim that this is you know, edited. And one of
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: the things that one of the videos I seen, they
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: put side by side a video from this nineteen nineties
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: video game Killing Time when this portal opens up and
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: the guy that you know steal the frame and put
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: him side by side. I mean, they look almost identical,
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: if I'm just being honest. But I've not heard anybody
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: rebuttle it or anything like that. I just want to
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: know what your thoughts were on it.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean I've refuted it a lot
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: of times. I mean, I don't know. I was surprised
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: that that actually caught on as well as it did.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: When you see the debunks, usually this is like a
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: magician's trick. What they do is they edit it and
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: then they hide the parts that don't match, and they
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: show you, like one edge, they go, oh, look, it's
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: a perfect match, Like after I've changed it, after I've
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: recolored it, after I've shown you the part I don't
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: show you, But they don't say that part. They just
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: say it's a perfect match. Oh, you forgot the five
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: steps before that. And so usually what I do, like
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: the easiest way to break down and just prove that
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: those people are lying to you, is I just literally
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: will show you like an exact overlay like that's like
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: and they'll never show you that, those debunkers never will,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: So like, pull this up if you don't mind, real quick,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: so I can just show this. So, I mean, this
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: is an exact overlay of the two frames. And I
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: don't want to point out the people that say it's
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: an exact match. They're saying that someone took a stock
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: effect which is multiple frames and put it into the video.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: But this is the only frame that's even close. And
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: as you can see here, I can see what they did.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: They found something where the edges on the right are similar,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: but in the middle it's not even close to the same. Now,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest, it is pretty amazing. They found something
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: that has a dot that's almost kind of in a
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: similar spot here. But again, yeah, this needs to be
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: a perfect match. This can't be a partial match. Partial
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: match means is not a match. You're telling me that
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: someone edited this into the video. It needs to be
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: a perfect match, like literally pixel for pixel perfect match.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Not Oh, it's pretty close. And again I'm gonna point out,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I know these videos are real. So what do you
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: really want from me? If you're gonna make up stuff
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: like that, like, oh, it's close enough. No, it's not
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: good enough. You can't just stay as close up. In fact, here,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: let me if you pull this up. This is the
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: actual full stock effect, not just the one frame, the
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: whole stock effect put into the video. That's it. One frame.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: You can see, Yeah, it looks kind of similar if
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: you resize it right, but you can see the edges
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: don't actually really match. It's just it's close. And then
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: after that nothing's even remote. How would you even edit
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: this frame to get this to match? I don't know how.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: You can see there's like a blast effect, and that's
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: because this is actually not what the this stock effect here.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: This isn't even CGI. This is photos we found the
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: guy that made this. Those are pictures of fire. So
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: what you're telling me someone modified pictures of fire? Photos
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: of fire. That's a photo, not a CGI. So like,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: that's how easy it is to just debunk. That's the
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: number one debunk. By the way, most people think that
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: that stock effect is a perfect match because people on
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: YouTube keep repeating the lie that it is when I
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: can just show you in five seconds that it's not.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: And so my question would be if they're willing to
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: like lie that boldly. Never show you what I just
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: showed you, never explain in simple terms like I just did.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Why are you? Why is anyone listening to those people
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: at all? What else are they lying about? In fact? Too,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: because the people that are making those claims are not
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: just like one time debunker people. There are people that
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: like Mick West, who's the monking literally everything out there,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: and if he's willing to lie, it's so boldly about
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: something like that, or the Corridor crew who make multiple
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: debunk like reaction videos. You know, what else are they
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: willing to lie about? I think it's crazy that people
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: think that I don't like have credibility when you know,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I'm happy to discuss this. And do you see those
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: people on podcasts answering questions? Never? Never, ever, Mick West
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: will never go on a podcast where anyone's going to
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: be adversarial towards him ever, because he's afraid.
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: Well, I'm glad I asked man, because that's obviously something
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: you've been asked a lot, and I just I wouldn't
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: a wire but you had the film at the ready, man.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that I've got all the debunks read. I mean.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: The only other thing too, I'll say is that the
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: way that I saw it kind of play out is
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: like people online just kind of make stuff up like oh,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: this shouldn't look this way or this shouldn't look that way,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: and then they'll like try to google something that they'll
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: think that like supports their view, but it's kind of
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: out of context because they don't really no, they don't
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: google it no more. Man, they chat shept or Rochet, Hey, Groc,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: what's the answer this right? Like, oh my god, and
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: then you know, and Groc is just lying too now
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: at this point, because Groc's just reading whatever people saw
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: on the internet, which that scares me more than anything.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: So really what I wanted And this is if you
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: go back to my early liveship that told people like
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: people need to learn to think critically, like we have
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: to think critically about everything. And this is where the
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: debunkers are the ones trying to tell you think critically,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: but they're not the ones thinking critically. They're the ones going, oh,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: this close enough match, we don't have to think about
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: where this plane disappeared into and how that could have
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: been possible, and why we never really found anything where
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: we were searching, you know. So what I tell people
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: to try to like really rationalize how this is real
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: to people to say, like, what do you think the
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: whole stories if you believe the videos are fake, what
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: do you think the story is about who made those videos?
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Because there's nobody that's claiming to be the person that
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: made those videos. In fact, one person was claiming for
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: like a year and a half and turned out they
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: were a huge scammer and it turned out they were
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: like texting with this website owner place and like asking
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: them the fake receipts to pretend like they made the videos.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: So wow, I mean, like, who made the videos if
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: you think they did? And we're even not even if
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: you don't know the exact person, But what's the mental
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: profile of the person who faked videos of a missing
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: plane within a few days with this looks like military footage?
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: And how did they know all of that? And why
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: did they waste all this time to do this? And
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: how do they know what coordinates to put in the plane?
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: And why did they put a satellite designation the bottom
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: left that says NROL twenty two, which is a real satellite,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: and why did they know to call it NROL twenty two,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: which nobody, I don't think would have ever thought to
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: do that. Like, these are all just a few of
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the completely inexplicable questions. But the big killer, the real
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: nail in the coffin, is Gorgon Stare. I mean, once
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I found out that that was Gorgan's Stare wide air
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: e motion imager, everyone's wondering that first video I showed,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: it's actually not video at all. The frame rate's too low,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: it's only six frames per second. Why is the screen
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: moving around like this? Why is there a mouse cursor
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: that like comes off the screen and is moving around
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: on the screen. Because you're looking at someone who's on
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: software recording with their mouse and they're recording a screen
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: a window, like right now, I have a bunch of
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: windows up on my screen. They're recording one of those windows,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: and that's why you see the mouse come onto the window.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: And then why does it go black at the end?
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: It goes black at the end because they close the window,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: and now the screen goes black. And that surveillance capability,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: that whammy was basically brand new, that capability we're looking
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I was almost brand new in twenty fourteen when that
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: would have leaked, so those leaks wouldn't have just been
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: crazy plasma ORBS teleportation black operation, but also revealing our
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: secret drone surveillance capability, which apparently is like Google Earth.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Wherever you have a drone flying overhere, you can just
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna do some DVR playback. Oh I
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: missed that episode of Teleport the Plane. Let's go ahead
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: and pull that back up.
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: Well, and the most important part about this debunking is
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: that they're focusing on the messenger.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: You found these videos.
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: It's not like you created them, and we can't find
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: the guys who created them. So if they were really
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: trying to debunk it, they'd be going after finding who
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: posted these videos, and they're not interested.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: So that's the big This is the giveaway. There's so
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: many ways to show that the people trying to debunk
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: these videos aren't doing it in good faith. But the
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: best one is early on too. They have a whole
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: debunker subreddit that they banned me from right away because
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I can't have people like actually solving the mystery. They
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: would say that, oh, I'm the one hurting the you
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: know the case, I'm the one making it, so that
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: We're never going to get the truth because I'm spreading
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: so much disinformation about it. And I'd laugh in those
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: people's faces because none of them have been trying to
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: solve MH three seven zero. None of them have been
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: trying to solve the videos. They've all been trying to
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: make it go away. That's all they've been trying to
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: do from the beginning. They're trying to make people not
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: listen to me. They've been trying to make nobody look
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: at those videos, trying to make content related to Magery
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: seven zreing those videos not be seen, deboosted, whatever they
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: can do. They want as many people as possible think
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: those videos are fake because they need that to happen,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: because that's the only way those videos stay hidden is
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that the moment people start to wake up those videos,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: that's the biggest nightmare of the US government could have
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: ever ever imagined. So, once again, why are these people
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: not trying to solve the case. Why are they attacking me?
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Why are they trying to debunk the videos at all?
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Like anybody there's a good faith researcher, they should just
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: be trying to figure out, like who made the videos?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: If I didn't think the videos were real, I'd be
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out who made them. I'd be like,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: that's crazy, how could somebody have made this? We need
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: to find that person. They're not interested in that though,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: because they know there's nobody that ma.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: They don't want the basics.
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: Man.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: I always say, you got to know the basics before
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: you even attack anything else. And that's the basics right there.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: Who to Hill made the video in the first place,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: and then let's go from there.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: You know, Like even as me as like a video
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: person podcasting, I'd be like, all right, I'm gonna pull
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: apart that video because that's where I'm gonna find out
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: if it's real or not.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't. Yeah, I understand what you get. Man,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: did you go to the source? Yeah? Yeah.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Even if they come back and say like, oh, well,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: you know what, can you can you find the person
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: that leaked them? Yes?
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: I did.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I literally found the person that leaked the videos. And
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: that's the whole point is like, if those videos were fake,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: you should be able to find the person that made them,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: no excuses whatsoever. They're not dead or whatever other bs
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: people try to come up with. If it was in
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: some eighty year old man making those videos in twenty
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: fourteen or something like that. I literally found the guy
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: that leaked them because just from looking at the videos,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: that's how you can only do this. From real videos,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: you can tell the intent of the person leaking them.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: You can tell what's going on. You can tell that
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: that's a leaked military footage from the United States government
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: just from the videos, because we can see a General
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Atomics MQ nine drone with like a Northrop Grumming camera
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: on hard point number five underneath the drone. Like that
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: information alone proves that to the United States government at play.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: So then it was just a matter of like, okay,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: they must have charged somebody with this. Like the first
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: thing I learned was you can't actually hide these charges
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: unless we're in martial law. If somebody does something like this,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you got to charge them publicly. Okay. So, was anybody
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: charged with like major crimes like you know, espionage that
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: maybe it got brushed under the rug or something like
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: that where we never really heard about it. Oh yeah,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I found the guy. Took it like two weeks. But
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: there's not that many people, and I just went systematically
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: down the list once I hit Edward Lynn, I was like, oh,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: there he has found him. Like he's in this super
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: secret Navy program. He's got the exact right access he
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: would need. He gets charged with espionage, but there's his
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: cases shrouded in mystery. They won't say what it is
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: that he leaked, but his lawyer is going around saying that, oh,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: it's on the internet. The evidence is on the internet.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: What And then they make him take a plea deal.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: They make him take a plea deal. They convince him
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: that what he did was wrong, which is probably like
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: that wasn't aliens, bro, You weren't leaking aliens to the world.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: You were leaking our nuclear secrets to the world. Just
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: imagine how the conversation went. And then he goes, oh,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm hurt. My spirit is broken. That's almost
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: a direct quote, by the way, and takes the plea
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: deal so they get rid of all the espionage chargers.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: They're like, Okay, you took a plea deal, We're just
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: going to get you with classified you know, information or whatever.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: It's like, great, I'm going to get a slap on
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the wrist right nine years, nine years for dissemination of
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: classified information. That's crazy. That's a super long time. So
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: you'd think, Okay, he appeals. We look at his appeal.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: His appeal. Actually, the penal codes are consistent with video
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: evidence being what he leaked. I mean, it could be
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: other stuff because the penal codes are multiple things, but
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: you know, still in the realm. He argued that he
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: got like way too much time, and so in response,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: the military said, nope, what he leaked was super serious,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: and they had people testify to the judge why it
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: was associous. They actually needed someone to Why would you
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: need someone to testify to the judge about? Why would
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: he was leaked was so serious? Shouldn't it just be obvious?
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Was it nuclear codes? Like? What was it?
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Because it's some crazy videos of orbs spinning around a plane.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: And then someone needs to me someone's got to explain
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: that to the judge because it can't be explained otherwise, right,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Like why is this guy not a hero? For example?
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: You know he's leaking like an illegal operation to the world. Oh,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: because it's a classified official operation. You know, So what
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: was the last thing I was gonna say? Uh? But yeah,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: so he's the guy that had to have leaked the videos,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and he changed his name after I start, after I
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: figured this out. We didn't find this out until like
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: six months ago. But after I figured this out, three
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: months later, I'm saying his name on podcast. He legally
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: changes his name. I'm trying to find the guy, like
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I help. I'm trying to find him, trying to get
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: in touch with him because like, maybe he'll talk to me.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the circumstances were, but now I
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: know the circumstances. Like his sister's a lawyer in Home
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Land Security. His brother in law is Sean Naylor, who's
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: a national security MSM. Mainstream media like spook guy, and
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I'm going, holy shit, now I see what's going on.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Like nobody knows what Edward Lynn leaked. His family might
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: not know, his friends probably don't know. I talked to
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: somebody that was in his unit. They didn't know. They
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: thought it was like prostitutes. I'm like, dude, does that
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: make sense? He was telling prostitutes something. They put him
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: in prison for nine years. He literally triggered a security
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: alert to the Joint chiefs of Staff. What he leaked
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: did that wasn't prostitutes, bro, That is actual video of
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: something right, and the VPU tube two person told me
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: this isn't even I think in any of the media
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: releases that when Edward Lynn got arrested, they rolled him
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: up with flash drives as well. Now that's hugely important
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: because it implies that he was pulling data and running
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: away with it, and that would explain how those videos
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: got on the internet too, as he pulled them from
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: a s gift. Oh and last thing I'll say is
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: that his sister won't talk. His the brother in law
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: won't talk. I can't get him to talk. I've called
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: his business multiple times, can't get him on the phone.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: His lawyer tried to get his lawyer. I have his
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: lawyer's phone number. He disconnected his phone number, turned his
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: phone off, would never return to any phone calls. And
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: not like I'm being psychoed, just asking him, like, hey, Broy,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about your your guy,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: you know, your your client in his case, especially because
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: like I have some pretty compelling like I'm basically saying,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: he's a hero. In my opinion, he's leaking like free energy,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: plasma orb technology black operation. From a public perspective, he
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: seems like he should be a hero. But I think
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: that all the baggage that comes along with it, and
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: he knows that, like this isn't the kind of thing
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: that you come out and you become a hero, Like
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: they try to bury you if you come out probably
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: with something like this. Right. So that's the Edward Lynn story.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: That's incredible. So let's get into some of the patents.
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: This is some of the new stuff that you've been
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: talking about. What kind of patent have you found tangential
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: to this technology?
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: So patent wise, I mean, I think that the scientific
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: papers are better, but the patents think about the patents,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: A lot of them are just like hard to read,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: hard to understand. They make them that way intentionally, and
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: from watching the engineers too. Even the engineers know that,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: like the patent office won't approve anything that touches on
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: like violating the first or second law of thermodynamics. So
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: they weren't everything in like overly complex ways intentionally actually,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: which goes to show how mess up the system is.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: But the pattern that first caught my eye was a
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: coherent matter way of being patent by Charles Chase of
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: lockeed Martin and I never even really understood it that well.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: But from reading it, it seemed like the kind of
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: thing where like you're making matter like phase through solid objects,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: and you're like, wait, okay, well that seems relevant if
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: somehow we figured out teleportation.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: So and Bob Greenier had been talking about that past
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: and for a while too, so I had always had
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: my eye on that pattern. And then it wasn't until
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: a few weeks ago when I found and I saw
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: another video by Charles Chase, the guy that was the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: patent holder, and he was talking about the coherent matterwave
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: beam and he finally explains what it can do, and
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: he says, oh, it's a million times more powerful than
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: a laser, and I just my eyes opened up, because
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: lasers have gotten extremely powerful ado second lasers, I think
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: it's like ten to the minus eighteen. Basically, the faster
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: you can pulse something, the more energy density you can
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: fit into a little region. And that's exactly what we
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: need for space time manipulation, according to the math and
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: to the physics. So if you can make something that's
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: a million times more powerful than that, that's another six zeros.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I'm going this has got to be able to manipulate
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: spacetime like and then the other things, what else can
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: it do? It can also do atomic scale manufacturing. And
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: now I'm going, wait, are you talking about Star Trek replicators. Well, yeah,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: it turns out this Charles Chase guy just did an
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: interview two days ago and he literally says the word replicator,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: says that's what he was doing with the coherent matterway,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: but that's what he's working on right now. And then
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the last thing he says is transporting matter at a distance,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: which I think is a head nod to teleportation. So
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: that's my favorite pattern and that's my favorite guy, which,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: by the way, looked into Charles Chase, top zero point
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: one percent of Lockheed Martin Engineers, he got Fellow designation,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: and he's the guy that convinced the cxos of Lockheed Martin,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: the top people of Lockheed Martin, to go all in
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: on this compact fusion reactor idea like a decade ago.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: And on his resume it says it was successful and
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: it's breathing on its own direct quote on his resume
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: from the guy who invented it. Was the guy who
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: convinced the cxos to do it, and that project went
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: dark in twenty eighteen, and no one knows what happened
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: to him since on guys like literally, Congress should be
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: like compelling Charles Chase to testify, because if anyone wants
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: to know where the supermagic technology is, like there's your
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: smoking gun.
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: Right, that's kind of the purpose.
• 38:14
  Speaker 9: Oh go ahead, No, just real quickly questioned mymalogies, the
• 38:21
  Speaker 9: actual coherent matter wave? Does that touch upon the Hutchinson effect?
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: It could? I think that he was asked, I think
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: about Hutchinson, but the coherent matterwave beam is essentially taking it.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: So with a laser, you take all that, you make
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: sure all the wavelengths of light are in the same phase.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: So think of it as like the same color, right,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: all the same exact color. That's why laser is one
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: single color. And then you just overlap them on top
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: of each other. And when you overlap those waves, they amplify.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: That's why a laser is like stimulated amplification, light amplifications stimulated.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I always forget the exact acronym. But with a mat wave,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: you're essentially doing the same thing. You're saying, Okay, now,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: matter itself is a wave. So you think of an
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: atom or a cup and we look at it and
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: we think of this solid object, but if you really
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: boil it down, this is a complex series of waves.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: What this is.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: So if we can actually isolate our matter waves and
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the way they do this is a Bose Einstein condensate,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: then we can eject the matter all out at the
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: same wavelength the same way we do with the light.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: With the laser, we can eject the light out of
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: the photons of the same wavelength. We can do the
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: same thing with matter. Then you can create a matter
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: wave beam. But to answer your question, is it connected
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: to the Hutchinson and stuff. Yeah, absolutely, and Thomas Townson
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Brown and really a lot of the engineers and scientists
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: that you've heard in the lore around free energy and
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: gravity manipulation. It's all connected by a common thread of
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: science for sure.
• 39:50
  Speaker 9: Yeah, because it would play upon the whole fusion thing
• 39:52
  Speaker 9: that you were speaking about earlier. And then I guess
• 39:56
  Speaker 9: a sense it would be analogous to switching out photons
• 40:00
  Speaker 9: for matter, like they're both packets of energy, it's just
• 40:04
  Speaker 9: the density, right, Would that be.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Correct to say mass is energy? Matter is energy? So
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: that's one of the very really important things. I think
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: it was a Ningly presentation. She's one of these anti
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: gravity researchers from the nineties that's aw ybco or why
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: CBO I always get the acronymic sed uff, but these superconductors.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: It was her and her presentation where she points out
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: E equals mc squared means that matter is equal to energy.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Now that seems like a very basic thing, but it's
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: so fundamental and so important because if we are now
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: saying that we can manipulate gravity through mass like a planet, well,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: now if I convert that mass into energy, I should
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: be able to calculate how much energy I need to
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: manipulate space time as well. And so that's super important
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: because now we're saying, okay, if I'm going to manipulate
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: the space time with energy, now I can actually do
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: the calculations. Now I can figure out theoretical what I
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: would need, and this is what scientists did. They did
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: that and they found, oh, well, to manipulate you know,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: space time significantly, we need like this Jupiter size amount
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: of mass energy and so they will call it mass energy.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: But then they also figured it out, Okay, we start
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: doing the math, we start finding little tricks that we
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: can do, like you know, uh, spin is one of
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: the things they can do. They call it a rotating wormhole.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: One of the other things they can do is they
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: can make flat faced wormholes. And then these things now
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: reduce the energy requirements significantly. So there are ways they
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: found that even around the challenges.
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: That they had, and I guess the and just to
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: go ahead.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Sorry. One other thing that I just wanted to this
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: is kind of tangential or related to that, was that
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: when it comes to waves as well, this idea of fusion.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: So we think of fusion as like particles forcing the
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: particles to come together, and they want to repel each other,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: so they get to this point we can't get them
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: to come any closer, the Coulan barrier, we call it.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: But if particles are just waves, they're not actually particles anymore.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Then really we're combining waves when we're doing fusion, combining
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: the waves together and we make a new wave from it.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: That would be, in my opinion, a more intuitive way
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: of thinking about fusion. We just don't think about that
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: way because we think of everything as particles. Charles Chase
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: actually touches on this subject and he says, you know,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the matter wave beam can create new elements, like literally
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: even super heavy elements that we wouldn't think we could
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: create naturally, but we can artificially create them and they
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: become stable as well. So there may be this connection
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: between the coherent matter wave beam and fusion. And when
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I see some like coherent matter way and hear that
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: explanation myself, I go, obviously they must have figured out fusion.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: You can't figured out coherent matter wave beam without have
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: already first figured it out fusion, right.
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: So yeah, and so kind of just going based on
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: building on what you said.
• 42:56
  Speaker 9: In my mind, I'm relating it to biological systems, and
• 43:00
  Speaker 9: there are points when you have a wave that's coming
• 43:03
  Speaker 9: from both ends and they meet in the center and
• 43:06
  Speaker 9: then they kind of go back out. But that center
• 43:08
  Speaker 9: point is that zero point node. And it almost I
• 43:11
  Speaker 9: almost wonder if some of these orbs wormholes.
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: Is that center point node.
• 43:18
  Speaker 9: And the reason I say that is because you see
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: it kind of stand still and it is the actual
• 43:23
  Speaker 9: point of manipulation. And when you think about DNA, you
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: see this entire coding region, but it's in specific areas
• 43:31
  Speaker 9: where you have a palindrome and repeating area, and it
• 43:34
  Speaker 9: is the point where you calculate the entire genome. It
• 43:37
  Speaker 9: is the site where viruses inject themselves to where you
• 43:41
  Speaker 9: can manipulate the coding rerangion going in and out. And
• 43:46
  Speaker 9: so when you bring in the wormhole thing, and then
• 43:50
  Speaker 9: you think about gravitational as waves to me, and it
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: probably is completely incorrect that I think of it in
• 43:56
  Speaker 9: terms of zero point nodes, that they are points of manipulating,
• 44:00
  Speaker 9: should enforce time space or electromagnetic fields or anything like that.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the big thing to bring up is
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: scaleing variants. Scaleing variance things that are very small. It
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: can be very large as well. So then I guess
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the question is that the smallest possible scales, what does
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: the universe look like? If I had to guess, I'd
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: guess it probably looks like what it looks like the
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: very small large scales as well. And so that also
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: applies to biology. Probably. I think all this physics absolutely
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: applies to biology. It must, And what you'll find when
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: you start to dig into these engineers and scientists and physicists,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of them make that connection. Some of them
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: are more leap into it more than others do, but
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: they all realize that you know, where's the energy coming from,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: where's consciousness coming from? Is there a connection between quantum
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: entanglement and how our minds work? And I agree on
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: that as well. When it comes to zero point nodes
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: and the planes and the orbs, absolutely, that's definitely in
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: play in these videos, like the way those orbs are
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: stabilized where they don't seem to like they don't dissipate,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Like if lightning where to strike, it's going to dissipate, right,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: But these are like lightning balls that are just floating
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: around almost like I made a vortex in my pool
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: and the vortex is just going on forever and that
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: and that configuration implies you've created this zero point in
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: space time. Potentially, then that's how they're able to create
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: fusion and cause this propulsion be stable. That you've created
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: this zero point like longitudinal wave through the ether that's
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: like invisible to us, is how I would think of it.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: With respect to the plane itself, the zero point is
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: around the plane those orbs in a perfect triangle formation
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: when they're using magnetic inversion to get locked into place
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: like that where they don't come in or out any further.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: There's a zero point, right, in the middle where all
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: the magnetic fields cancel each other out means there's no
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: magnetic field there. So how do I know this is teleportation?
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't go through all that effort if you were
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: just annihilating the plane. You would just be like shoot
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: it with a missile.
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: Like.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: The reason why you're doing this complex dance with the
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: zero point right in the middle of the plane is
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: because that's a warm you're like detaching everything else around it.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: And when the orbs come together, they're coming together right
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: before the plane disappears, also in a perfect geometric sequence
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: as well to your point, because they're maintaining that zero point,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: they're like pinching and squeezing the plane, but not squeezing
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: it through our three dimensional space, squeezing it through the
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: fourth dimension right like down if you would want to
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: think of it like that, and they're saying, Okay, you're
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: getting squeezed poop, and then it's going to pop out
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: back over here somewhere else.
• 46:28
  Speaker 9: This all kind of spurre was because when you showed
• 46:31
  Speaker 9: the images if you and maybe you have when you
• 46:35
  Speaker 9: look at conception, when the sperm has penetrated into the zone,
• 46:40
  Speaker 9: pollution of the egg and you see that explosion of
• 46:43
  Speaker 9: six hundred thousand dions, it looks almost identical. And you
• 46:47
  Speaker 9: do have a wormhole being created when you trap matter
• 46:50
  Speaker 9: and when you trap and matter and energy into matter
• 46:53
  Speaker 9: during conception.
• 46:54
  Speaker 8: And this is not a debate or anything like that.
• 46:56
  Speaker 8: It's proven IVF.
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: This is the flash that they look for or before implantation,
• 47:01
  Speaker 9: and your charge fifty thousand for it. So it just
• 47:04
  Speaker 9: looks similar to the images you showed right before the
• 47:10
  Speaker 9: plane when the plane disappears, and then when you look
• 47:13
  Speaker 9: at conception and that explosion of the zero polluca.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: So yeah, another fun thing reaction. Oh, space can turn
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: into photons as well, the dynamic Kasmir effect. It's a
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: fun experiment. No one really talks about it. I like
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: talking about the craziest experiments that people can't really explain
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: or understand where light. Light gets produced from manipulating just
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: the Kasmir effect, So photons get basically the way they
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: explain is the virtual photons get converted to real photons.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: So you mean basically light comes from nowhere? Yeah, exactly,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: light just being pulled from space time itself, like almost
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: like you're squeezing the sponge of space. Time and light
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: is coming out of it. That to me is the
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: greatest because how do you even explain that without there
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: being a zero point energy out there? So I love
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: the connection between you know, energy mass and then space,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: time and light as well.
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: Well I was gonna, I was gonna ask you. So
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: there's there's so many scientists out there that glaze this
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: three three body problem book. You know, I hear so
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: many of them talking about it, and it's like, how
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: could there not be a connection because they're talking about
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: dimensional physics in this three body problem, you're talking about
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: flat surface you know, wormholes and stuff. This is a
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: dimensional idea, right.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, it's it's adding an extra
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: dimension one at one extra dimension just one. And I
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, my mind has opened to all
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: the possibilities. But I personally believe this idea of like
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: there's not like aliens coming from the extra dimension. In
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: my opinion, now, I think you can ghost these things
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: like that can actually make sense and spirits and like
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: where a consciousness comes from. But I wouldn't think of
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: the extra dimension as like you know, our bizarro versions
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: hanging out there or something like that. Though you know
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: who knows anything that is totally possible. I think I'm
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: more of like we. It's the representation of all that
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: mass and energy when you add up everything that we
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: see plus the zero point energy, the fabric of our universe.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: When you add that all up, that's the ether. That's
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: everything all combined. Like it almost like if you were
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: to look at a snow globe, it's like, okay, is
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: the snow globe just the objects? No, the snow globe
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: is the water in there and everything, and I shake
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: it all up like that because when you then do that,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: now you say okay, Now I can do equations where
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: I can say the matter me is interacting with the
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: space time, which I previously was discounting and sane was empty.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: But now I can say okay, because that helps me
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: represent where I am, where is Ashton? Am I here
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: in front of this screen? Or am I over where
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: you are? Et cetera. And then this also opens the
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: door to all these star trek capabilities that we've been seeing.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: And I'm very careful about not shooting down the idea
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: of like you know, spiritual extra dimensional aliens of what
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: have you, because honestly, this actually opens the door up
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: to more options, and to me, then the next question
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: is simply as like, is the many world hypothesis true,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: which would mean that like if I were to somehow
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: go back in time break causality, is that going to
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: make a new universe and therefore there must be infinite
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: new universes everywhere and different paths that everybody's taking. Or
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: is it more of this is the one and only
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: universe and we're in a deterministic timeline and you either
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: can't go back in time, or if you do go
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: back in time, you're not changing anything. It was just
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: always that way to me. That's a tough question that
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: maybe we can never answer, but that's the one that
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: will determine in my opinion, like how weird this all gets.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: There?
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: You go some esoteric stuff for you guys.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: Uh, one thing I did want to get into. I
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: didn't want to kind of get off of where we
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: were going. But there was like certain things that I've
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: seen you kind of I don't know if you mentioned
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: it in your show, but I knew I show you
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: tweeted and it quote my attention and actually made me think.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: I think you kind of said you had thought that
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: it was possible that our government was using this technology
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: when we bombed Iran.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Sorry, what was the first part.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: There that I assure you make a tweet saying that
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: you thought it might have been possible that the way
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: we went into Iran and did what we did and
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: come back without getting caught or nothing, you suspect possible.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Now that's I think people are trying to say that.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I was saying that I don't think we teleported our
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: bombers over Iran. I don't think we need to do that, honestly,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: And I think that would be kind of like, why
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: do that, because you're just kind of exposing your capabilities
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: if you do that. But I do think the angle
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: that I was going on is that I think Iran
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: was working on trying to get this technology and that
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: was just never gonna happen. I think the cover was like,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: technically the masade are the ones that killed those nine
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Iranian nuclear scientists. I don't know if you guys knew this,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: but they assassinated nine Iranian nuclear scientists while they were
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: sleeping simultaneously, supposing, according to the news article, was using
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: a secret weapon. You know, call it whatever you will.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: To me, nukes are like an old thing. Like, we're
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: not working on the the you know, an a bomb.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: We you know, a bomb is something we dropped in
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: nineteen forty five, that was eighty years ago. If you
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: look at all the science around nuclear physics, all really
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: a plasma, manipulating, controlling plasma, that's what those Iranian scientists
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: would have been working on. In fact, that would mean
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: they were definitely understood and working on the idea of
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: zero point energy. And that's what the CIA would never
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: have let happen, and they would have you know, Masad
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: can probably act and do what they want, but they're
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: working in concert with the CIA presumably or at least
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: get their blessing. And that's the part where I think
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: that's that's what's really going on in that season when
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: we're talking about like nukes, we're not scared of you know,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: a bombs. We're scared someone's gonna make like a black
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: hole super weapon that's infinite energy that just wipes out
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: the whole planet like instantly, either accidentally or intentionally. So
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: that's my take on that, and that's why I say
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: people say, like, oh, like a lot of people try
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: to gaslight about Russia or Iran being more powerful than
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: the United States. You have to be out of your
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: absolute mind if you think that these countries are more
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: powerful in the United States. Like we just don't talk
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: about our crazy stuff because we don't need to. Like
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: we don't need to. And that's why, you know, anybody
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: that goes against the United States on this in this
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: planet is just going to get wiped out fashion they
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: can possibly imagine. So people then say like, oh, well,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: why haven't we taken over China or Russia. It's like, well,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: how do you think that's going to play out? Like what, Oh, okay,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: we conquer you now now you're Americans now, Like it's
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: not that simple. You know, that's not how geopolitics really works.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: But you know, the response to the Iran conflict or
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: whatever war whatever they're calling it, twelve Day War, I mean,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: China did nothing, Russia did nothing. That was their main
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: ally Iran was and we just went and bombed them
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: and walked out like nothing. Russia can't even get air
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: superiority over Ukraine, Like what you think they're going to
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: get air superiority over any over us in a way.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: So I think that was a big tell sign where
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: people kind of had to wake up and go, Okay, yeah,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: maybe the United States can do whatever they want. But again,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: that's that's my controversial take on the geopolitics side.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha. Yeah.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: I actually made a comment last night that I had
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: actually thought that might be a lot of wars or
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: a lot of things going on because of people having
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: certain technology and just other governments don't want you having it,
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: you know, stargates and free energy and shit like that.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: There was just an idea that I've had, so I
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: guess you're kind of saying the same thing.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's a lot of fun rabbit holes to
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: go down on that front, because I mean, once you
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: realize that they've got technology that's like free energy technology
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: or teleportation, like that's stuff that nobody, like nobody in
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: the mainstream is talking about them, even broaching the idea
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: of people having that level of technology. But once you
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: realize that, I was like, oh, now you start to
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: think of things in a whole different light. You know.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: It's like everything's a completely different perspective, even the way
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: that they frame a lot of this stuff. I mean,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: the biggest scam is, of course, climate change, not because
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: it's not potentially real, but because the people that are
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: trying to gaslight us about the dangers of climate change.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Have the solution, They have this solution of fusion, they
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: just don't give it to us, you know. So I
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: do think that understanding that we have this whole technology,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: you know, assuming that it is true and we do
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: have it, which I'm convinced of course. Yeah, just changes
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: changes the perspective on everything geopolitically, frankly and energy wise.
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: When you identify that all the governments of the world
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: agree on UFOs and antarctica, everything kind of comes into focus.
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: It's like, maybe there's a linkage between what they know
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: about this stuff and how much they don't want to
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: get bombed for saying anything about it, because it is
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: really like godlike power, and that's that's terrifying to all
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: these smaller countries.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine they had portals and like one of the
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: one that you think about, which I'm not endorsing this particularly,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: but like the idea that what if Saddam Hussein wasn't
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: building nukes, what if you had like a secret stargate
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: or something that he doesn't say at least right like, oh, okay,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: well we had to go take that over or destroy
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: it or something right because we couldn't let them have that,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: We couldn't let them reverse engineer that technology or something.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Or what if there's something in Antarctica under there where
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: it's like buried under the ice and we just don't
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: want people going near it and figuring it out. Like
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: those are the things that I that give me pause
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: because that's like what you would do if if we
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: figured this technology out. To me, I really struggle with
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: like did we just naturally figure out teleportation and free
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: energy stuff? Like I feel like we got some help somewhere.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: And if you look at the last like one hundred
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: years of our advancement, we've gone like this, it's like
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: we're building is sentient AI is now right, and like
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: you know, one hundred years ago we were riding around
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: on horses, So you know something this doesn't It feels
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: a little too And you could say, Okay, we have
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: this technology technology singularity that's happening clearly, But still to me,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm feeling like we got some help somewhere. Maybe
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: we dug something up, maybe crash ship, maybe we I
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: don't know, future humans.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: A lot of.
• 56:53
  Speaker 9: Ashton with the potential that Saddam Muzin had potential technology,
• 56:59
  Speaker 9: with Iranians potentially having technology, and with the lore surrounding
• 57:05
  Speaker 9: Nazi Germany with diglock and I'm pronouncing that, do you
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: think that maybe that was probably one of the reasons
• 57:12
  Speaker 9: we went in as well.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the diaglock thing man the Nazi Germany, there's so
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: much law around it, and I actually think like almost
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: all the law is true, Like it's just really more
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: of like what's story that makes sense for all of it?
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: And there's actually quite a few different stories that can
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: make sense for it. But the Nazi one's really interesting
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: because they were like spinning mercury, which is supposedly the
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: way you can do anti gravity as well. That would
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: have been one of the first rudimentary ways to do it.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: And I found one of the scientists that I found
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: is actually a literal project paper clip scientists. Like I
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: thought that was like a conspiracy theory thing. No, it's
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: like a real thing. We just took the scientists from Germany,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: anyone that had prospects, like anyone that seemed like they
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: could do something good. So we got we take this
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: guy named fried Wart Winterberg. He studied under Werner Heisenberg.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Like the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. That was his mentor. And
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: he was like fifteen years old or eighteen years old
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: or something like that, and we spotted him and you know, said, okay,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: you're coming to America. You know you're gonna come teach
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: us do And it's crazy because he then worked on
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: fusion and nuclear bombs and a thermonuclear weapons and all,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: and nobody knows about him because all his research is
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: basically just classified. And so I read his textbook about nukes.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: In the very first page, it says they classified inertial
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: confinement fusion because of thermonuclear weapon applications, and then that's
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: probably why the world will never get fusion. Like the
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: first page, you go, okay, well maybe we should listen
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: to this project paper clips scientist who like came over,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: never got any credits, so probably has an ax to
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: grind and like they won't declassify as research. And he's
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: just saying straight up that we just classified fusion and
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: of course we did make sense too, like oh yeah,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: it's connected to h bombs, connected to thermonuclear weapons.
• 58:56
  Speaker 9: Well, and one of the things that I've i guess
• 58:59
  Speaker 9: tangential notice is that when you look at some of
• 59:03
  Speaker 9: these places where they brought some of these scientists, especially
• 59:07
  Speaker 9: the ones looking into physics, cermo dynamics, space time and
• 59:11
  Speaker 9: all that, and you look at where they placed them
• 59:14
  Speaker 9: and where they were doing research. You also see a
• 59:17
  Speaker 9: correlation orbs appearing, one of them being Marpha in Texas.
• 59:23
  Speaker 9: There brought flip scientists there and Broswell's another one or
• 59:28
  Speaker 9: outside of it, and you do see orbs there every
• 59:32
  Speaker 9: now and then. And I just always found that really
• 59:34
  Speaker 9: odd that the two exist and causation is not correlation.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: I get that.
• 59:41
  Speaker 8: However, it's a big, big coincidence.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: In my book, Yeah, Relly could be studying it.
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: You know, they could be there looking at these events
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: that are natural and trying to figure out how to
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: weaponize them.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: You know, that's that's a real possibility. That's one of
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: the hypothesis is that you know, people will say, okay,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Ash and you say that they've got these plasma orbs, right,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: but what I've been researching, Okay, maybe they've had the
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: plasm orb since like the two thousands. That's pretty much
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: where the science kind of culminates on humanity figuring out
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: how to get your plasm orb to fly. Around based
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: on the scientific papers working on in the nineties, figured
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: it out two thousands. Now we've got plasmidrome. But we
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: were saying, oh, people are seeing these in the you know,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: the Foo fighters in the twenties is a good example, right,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: So how do you explain that? Well, one of the
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: answers to explain that is, well, we basically just saw
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: the aliens or other civilizations flying around their plasma orbs
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: and we're like, oh, we can do that. That's cool.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 9: How do they do that?
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: And they just use electromagnetic theory and they just reverse
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: the engineering and then figure out, oh, we can make
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: a plasma orb too. So that's one possibility for sure.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: But I do think that if you look at the
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: history of it of the UFO topic, a lot of
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: things went from flying saucers in the seventies, eighties, nineties
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: even to the twys twenty ten, specifically shifting the orbs. Specifically,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: I would say plasmos the balls of light basically balls
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: of energy if you want to think of them like that,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: And that's definitely connected to exotic vacuum objects. Ken Shoulders
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: research how Pudov's research and what those guys were doing
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: and no one just no one really knows because they
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: haven't looked into that and seem so esoteric. But once
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: you demystify it for people, show people the papers like
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: the Dense Plasma Focused paper by Frank Mead and George Miiley,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: where they're literally just talking about in the abstract, we're
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: gonna make this plasma orb it's gonna have jets on it,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna use it for gravity waves and use
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: it for high energy lasers. You're like, oh, okay, so
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: there it is two thousand and five, like Air Force
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: was clearly clearly working on it. That's why I think
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: we're seeing more of them is that. And the other
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: big thing is they're drones. It's not somebody flying around
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: in the flying saucer. They realize it's a big liability
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: if you have to like make your thing air tight.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Now you have to have an air supply inside your
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: flying saucer, especially if you're gonna warp drive it somewhere,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: you know, So the solution is, don't have anybody inside
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: of it, just have it be a drone. Maybe. In fact,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: the aliens are on was certainly using drones too. Why
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: would they come down and visit us in person and
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: just send a drone to come by. So I do
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: think there's a good possibility that they kind of you know,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: reversed engineered it. And then to me, it's the crazy
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: part is I can't even really narrow it down. I
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: can't even tell you like, oh yeah, definitely came from
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: actually terrestrials or you know, an ancient civilization like like
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: theory of Atlantis or heck, even the future human hypothesis.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: I used to think that was silly and absurd, and
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: then you realize like, oh no, we can actually manipulate
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: space time. So okay, if you can go back in time,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: then we could be manipulating our own timeline, and maybe
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: the people gatekeeping this or like the timeline Police or something.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: It makes me think of like a movie where it
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: was I think Jackie Sham might have been in an
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: a he was going through like different timelines. I think
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: of his own soul, his own self, and he was
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: like knocking them off because.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: One ye, come on, goes straight to hero Knakamura.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Talk.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: Did you have any questions before we move forward? I
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: just wanted not to put you on the spot. I'm
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: just you know, I just wanted to ask.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 7: Which I would like to ask him, because he mentioned
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 7: the spiritual side of it or the interdimensional side of it,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 7: and then as we're talking about zero points or conception points.
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  Speaker 7: I'm friends with the doctor Greg Little and I had
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 7: talked with him about a month ago, and he co
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 7: wrote a book with Andrew Collins called The Origins of
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 7: the Gods, and basically he talked about, you know, you
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 7: hear about all these encounters and things in the old world,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 7: if we coin that term, because like the electromagnetic.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Status of the.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 7: Earth was more pure, and now with all the microwaves
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 7: and Wi Fi and cell phones, it's really polluted the
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 7: electromagnetic field.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 7: Made it hard for these things to manifest. But he
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 7: talked about plasma in that book, and in the nineteen
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 7: seventies they had that apparition of Mary in Egypt above
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 7: that cathedral, and this was like a big phenomenon back then.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 7: I mean, millions of people gathered around and seen this
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 7: thing and documented it and had photos and video all
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 7: that kind of stuff. But his research, he was saying
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 7: that a lot of these apparitions of these plasma bills
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 7: and fields kind of held common themes with lay lines
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 7: and also fault lines, and he was talking about this
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 7: maybe is something that's generating under the earth like a
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 7: natural energy, and it's popping out like a cracking concrete
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 7: trying to find the least resistance and escape. And he
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 7: said that basically he was of the opinion that these
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 7: things are basically like gateways or tars or portals like
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 7: you were talking about earlier. And he says that maybe
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 7: extra extra dimensional or spiritual entities use these as insertion
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 7: points or ways to communicate with humanity. I just didn't know,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 7: you know, since you guys had brought that up, if
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 7: you've heard him talk about that or heard that idea,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 7: or what was your thoughts on that.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've heard you know, lay lines and
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: all in those concepts. I think that the lay line
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: concept is interesting from the same for the same reason
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: as like the what is the base structure of the
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: universe reason? Because if there is some structure of the universe,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: and you would think why they're not structured to like
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: the Sun or to the Earth, and we just don't
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: see it because it's invisible to us. So I think
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: it could be possible, but I haven't been super compelled
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: by the lay line arguments. I do also, I do
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: think that there's an interesting argument that you were making
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: earlier though, as well, about like you know, he's saying
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: that it might be harder to manifest certain spiritual aspects
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: when we're polluted with this electromagnetic spectrum, because again we
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: don't see it, but everything around us is emitting electromagnetic
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: waves all the time, especially in today's day and age,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: where we use electricity all the time. That would be
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: a really interesting thing if someone could study that somehow
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: and figure out because I like to think of the
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: zero point energy is like the white noise, the white
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: noise that's going around in the background. So you could
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: imagine that as a civilization is more and more advanced,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: you do have this pollution that could be occurring, and
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: we don't even recognize it because we don't ever see
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: it at all. But if there are entities that are
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: more connected to that zero point energy, maybe they don't
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: see the same way we see. Maybe they see it
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: as pollution everywhere else where. It's like stopping them from
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: coming here. That would be that would be pretty interesting.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: I'd never really thought about that, So thanks for presenting
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: that interesting idea for me, Doug.
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  Speaker 2: That actually did make me think, really, just real quick,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: I just want to mention this.
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  Speaker 4: You're talking about lay lines, but I've also thought of
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you look at birds and you look
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: at natural weather, you know, if there is any natural
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: weather anymore. And it's something that I think we've even
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: spoken about when we covered well when Lisa basically covered
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: the morning core with the birds. There is things kind
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: of in the above us that is almost like lay
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: lines on the ground, but like now in the air.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: I do wonder if like that has something to do
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: with any of that stuff. Have you ever thought of
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: that or stuff like that?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Well, here, let me tell you about something that's, you know,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: pretty scientifically accept There's a peer reviewed paper that came
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: out in the last year where they were able to
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: take just a tube metal tube using a specific alloy,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: and based on how they aligned it to the Earth's
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: magnetic field, it would produce voltage like if it was
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: aligned the right way, it produced voltage free energy. He
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: would say, where's that coming from. Technically you're sapping there,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: technically sapping the Earth of energy. I mean, you're not
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: doing it in an appreciable amount but that's where that's coming.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: And the crazy part is if they turned it ninety degrees,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: the tube didn't work anymore because it's now now no
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: longer aligned with magnetic fields, and it had to be
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: perfectly a lined. So you could imagine like tweaking it
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, this thing xacts you because
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: it's producing electricity I mean very tiny amount. So that's
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: why I think that, like, there clearly is obviously this
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: connection between the field, the magnetic fields, the direction of
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: the magnetic fields, et cetera. I think that people just
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: kind of take it in a more esoteric aspect when
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: they say, okay, well these specific directions and these specific
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: points at these at these locations. But certainly, of course
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: certain locations, just like with that experiment, certain locations are
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: better than other locations because of either how high you
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: are off the ground or what have you. So yeah,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: there's definitely a you know, at a minimum element of
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: truth to the idea.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: And I even do think the Sun is somehow is
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: possibly involved in all that.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: So sure, I mean, if you believe in the electromagnetic
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: electric theory of the universe or plasma theory of the universe,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: then you know that there's electromagnetic fields coming from the Sun,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: you know, are helping to stabilize our entire solar system essentially,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: or there may even be these giant galaxy level magnetic
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: fields that are wrapping around our entire galaxy, which could
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: explain why the stars on the edges of the galaxies
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: are rotating as fast as they are when they should
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: be rotating a lot slower. So that's where I think
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: it's funny. You look at the conventional classical view of physics,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: there's all these gaps in it that they can't explain,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: dark energy, dark matter. They have no idea where mass
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: comes from or gravity comes from, just exists. I think
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: it's fundamental force.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: And you realize, Oh, if they just thought about things
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: in all like slightly more esoteric way, like a slightly
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: different conceptional viewpoint, like all those problems just go away,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: they all go away.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: What is your not to throw this question out there randomly?
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: What is your opinion on gravity?
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: On gravity, gravity is a zero point fluctuation force. So
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: the zero point energy this ocean of energy we're in, well,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: wherever there's divots in it, that's gravity. Right, So when
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: we have a massive Earth or the Sun sitting in
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: that yield of zero point energy, it pulls everything towards
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: It pulls everything towards it. That's gravity. So I think
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: of it as a zero point energy is the fabric
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: of the space time, and when you're distorting that fabric,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: that's where the gravity is coming from. So how do
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: I create gravity? Distort the fabric? So this is exactly
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: why you add energy to a region, just like if
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: you're adding a planet to a region, you're going to
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: create going to create gravity. So that's how I view gravity.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: And there's a good paper by Hal Pudoff nineteen eighty nine,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: gravity is a zero point fluctuation force where he's probably
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: not the first person, but I like his paper because
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: he's prestigious, people know him. And he connected electromagnetism to gravity.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: I mean it had already been unified like one hundred
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: years ago, but he does the equations shows the mass
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: shows Einstein's equation goes, look there it is, and you know,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: people try to critique it, but he countered the critiques
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: as well, and I think we're just at a point.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: I mean that was nineteen eighty nine, so thirty six
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: years go. He wrote that paper. Maybe now we're ready
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: to accept it that's how things really work.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, was dig into remote viewing too,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: So you know, this goes to show that he was
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: at least thinking about the idea that the zero point
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: energy was more than just gravity manipulation, you know, more like,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: is there a connection to the conscious?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Interesting?
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: But it's sort of like an informational field which which
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 6: goes back into plasma because plasma seems to have self
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 6: organizing properties, and if that's connected to this informational field,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 6: that kind of makes sense why there would be this
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 6: linkage between plasma physics and stuff like remote viewing.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: I never knew what plasma physics was all about before this.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, why do we care so much
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: about plasma? What's plasma physics albout? Now I'm like, oh,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: it's all plasma physics. It's like all plasma physics. Because
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: we're realizing, like, where does electricity come from? Electricity is
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: just an asymmetry a positive and negative charge being separated.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: You separate a positive nay of charge, electricity willform you
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: think about from that conceptual viewpoint, you go, Okay, well,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: what is a plasma. A plasma is separating the negative
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: charge and electron from the positive charge ion. Oh what,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: that's the same thing as electricity. No wonder, plasma is
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: so important. Plasma is basically the base form of what
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: we're doing with electricity. And I saw some people in
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: the chat mentioning cimatics like a Bose Einstein condensate is functionally,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, equivalent of taking matter, taking plasma or whatever,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: and turning into a coherent form shape using frequency, using wavelengths,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: using resonance. Because again, everything is waves. So the way
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: we should be thinking about how are we getting these
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: two waves to interact. If this wave is going like
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: this and this wave is like longer, like what happens
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: when they meet? What happens when they interact with one another.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: That's how I think people should be thinking about it.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 6: And that goes back to the cavitation effect and the
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 6: light being created in the bubble.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: So you're talking about iluminescence. Soniluminescence is one of the
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: cooler experiments where they take sound waves in water and
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: light forms where they meet. You know, they create a
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: scale and interference in the middle. You get this cavitation effect,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: and it's hard for classical physics to explain that where's
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: the light coming from? You just put sound and water
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: and light is coming out of nowhere, like you know,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: that's pretty unusual, and people would question, is there fusion happening?
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 5: There?
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Is that where the lights, you know, coming from? I
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: think when you just think about in terms of waves
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: and mixing waves, makes a lot more sense. I mean,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: still kind of hard to wrap our brains around because
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: we live in this three D world where we think
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: of everything as a physical object. But when you move
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: away from it thinking everything's a physical object, then we
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: really open our minds up to a lot more possibilities.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 7: For sure, all the talk of water in waves, I
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 7: just recently heard a turn looking into some of this
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 7: stuff where you came on and I heard people talking
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 7: about space foam? Is that like the scientific kind of
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 7: term for these waves and waters that everything kind of
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 7: risks and where there's like void space or space?
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I think was it Tom Bearden? I think he
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: said he thought of the ether. The zero point energy
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: is like little bubbles, like, so if you were to
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: really boil it down to the small scale, what would
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: it look like? It would look like little bubbles in
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: like a bubble wall basically, because that's some small level,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: there must be some structure, right, that's the idea behind it.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: So if you think about these little bubbles, it's easier
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: to understand because you're walking through these bubbles. What's that
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: going to do. It's gonna resist you, right, It's going
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: to cause a force to push back. That's inertia. That's
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: what inertia is. Why can I not accelerate to the
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: speed of light even in outer space? I mean on
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: the Earth it's because the friction of the air, But
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: even in outer space, I can't accelerate to the speed
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: of light. Why because of the zero point energy is
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: slowing me down. That's the reason. That's what inertia is.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: Another thing you were talking about was the fluid. So
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: that actually came up with a term for the whole
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: study of the plasma, because the plasma acts like a luid.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: They call it magneto hydrodynamics MHD magneto hydrodynamics. Sometimes you'll
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: hear it called different versions of that. But what that
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: means is they create the plasma and now you treat
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: it like a liquid and because it's flowing around different directions.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: What you're trying to do, We're trying to stabilize it.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: We're trying to figure how can we stabilize this plant,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: How can we get this plasma to do what we want? Well,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: there's a whole field of physics around it called magneto hydrodynamics.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: So the people they didn't know what that term meant MHD.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Now you do. Anytime you see MHD, they're talking about
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: manipulating plasma with magnetic fields. Get in to do what
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: you want.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: One thing I wanted to kind of touch on is
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: that I think you kind of mentioned Lucky Martin a
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: few times though. It was interesting how you're kind of
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: showing like some of the stuff that they're kind of
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: coming out with now that I think you're saying is
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: proving that they've been using this stuff.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: For a minute. Right, Is there anything on that that
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: you want to like maybe good specific touch on.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: Well, for Lockheed Martin, I mean their compact fusion reactor,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: that's that's got to be the I mean, how are
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: we not just like having congressional hearings from all public
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: available data from the guy that built it literally saying
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: it's successful. That means they have a working fusion reactor
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: that's compact, mean, like can fit in my house, doesn't
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: even going to fit in some giant power plant like that.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: That's free energy for everybody. Like this is the thing
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: where I'm just like, how do people reconcile the fact
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: that Lockheed Martin just has a compact fusion reactor. They're
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: just not telling us about it. And they've had seven
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: years minimum to tell us about probably longer than that,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: and we're just okay with them hiding that wall, this
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: big charade of fusion, pretending like we're researching fusion trying
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: to figure it out when Locked Martin's already had it solved.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: That's the thing that I just can't wrap my brain around.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: In fact, let's play this video here a little intermission
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: for us, because I have the Lockheed Martin. This is
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: from their website, Like this is the guy that helped
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: develop this. Let's just listen to this video here and
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: we'll listen to this is Thomas.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 10: Hyt is a much safer option. So a next generation
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 10: of airplanes that doesn't rely on fuel, it can just
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 10: stay aloft, unlimited range, unlimited endurance. That's what nuclear fusion
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 10: can do for an airplane. We put it in a
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 10: magnetic bottle that can contain the high temperatures you need
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 10: hundreds of millions of degrees we can release in a
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 10: controlled fashion energy. We think we have a very robust
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 10: strategy going forward that has potential for success. What this
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 10: concept does is it's a high beta concept, which means
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 10: we use a high fraction of the magnetic field pressure.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 10: We use all of its potential, and that means we
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 10: can make our devices ten times small. So instead of
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 10: something the size of a building, we have something the
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 10: size of a large truck.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: The small is the reason we.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 10: Can do this quickly. If something small you can build
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 10: up momentum, you can develop it fast. It doesn't take
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 10: five years.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: To design it. It takes three months. We can design it,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: build it, test it in under a year. We can
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: do several of these cycles, and we think we can
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: get to a prototype in five years.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 10: Every time you do plasma physics, you learn something new,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 10: and that's why this is a high risk.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: High payoff endeavor.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 10: That's what we're doing here is testing that concept out
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 10: to see if it really holds the promise that it
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 10: appears to. And as a defense company, our increasing mission
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 10: is to enhance global security, and this is how we
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 10: do that.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: In the energy realm.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 10: Gas turbines are a huge improvement over other technologies in
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 10: terms of climate change, but they're only a fifty percent improvement.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 10: We take it all the way so no emissions, safe operation,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 10: proeferation free. That means we can ship it to the
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  Speaker 10: whole world with a good conscience. The old promise of
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 10: atoms for peace was a noble one, but ultimately flawed
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  Speaker 10: because the technology wasn't right for it.
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  Speaker 1: Can achieve that grand vision and bring clean.
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  Speaker 5: Power to the world.
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  Speaker 1: The true atomic age can start.
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  Speaker 10: Ten years we have great military vehicles. Twenty years we
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 10: have clean power for the world. This isn't online by
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 10: twenty one hundred. This is online by the time. I
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 10: can't even retire after we finish this. No, I still
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 10: have to find another.
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  Speaker 1: Job after this is done. Absolute absolutely configuration there looks
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: just like fried Wart Winterberg's fusion design thermonuclear designs as well,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: with the ring on the inside. Basically there's a tube
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: and then there's an outer ring on the outer side.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: As how they make those devices. A couple things I
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: want to point out there. He says, we could have
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  Speaker 1: this in five years. That videos from like twenty fourteen,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: videos from twenty fourteen. What happened brough is twenty twenty five?
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Now where did it go? The guy that literally that
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: wasn't the guy. That guy was one of the main engineers.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: But Charles Chase is the guy that like oversaw the
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: whole thing that convinced the xos. He said it was
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: all successful. It says unlimited endurance, unlimited range. They're saying
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: that fusion can cause your planing to stay in the
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: air forever, forever, never have to come down ever again,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: no emissions, no emissions whatsoever. Yeah, the crazy part about
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: this is some point in the chats that this is
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: actually just all real. Like that's the craziest part about
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: all this is they're literally just real. It's just there,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: like there you go, there's your thing. And somebody asks, like,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: how how are they doing fusion? If fusion supposedly takes
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: one hundred million degrees, how are those orbs doing fusion?
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: How can they do compact fusion reactor like that while
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: everybody else is struggling. Well, one the theory says that
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: it takes one hundred million degrees or even one billion
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: degrees if you're doing a neutronic fusion, which is what
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: they're doing, by the way, So how are they doing that?
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Clearly they're looking at the universe in a different way
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: than everybody else's. If you just listen to heal You Infusion,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: who's also doing field reverse configuration. They're CXO or CEO.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: In one of their publicly available YouTube video that says
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: straight up the theory says that it should take like
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: one hundred evs or whatever to cause fusion to happen
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: in these a neutronic fusion reactions. Experimentally, they're seeing that
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: ten times lower than that, ten times lower than that experimentally.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: The other difference, so difference first of all is theory
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: versus actual experimentation. The second thing is that when we
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: talk about the temperatures needed, we have to stop thinking
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: about it in terms of actual just temperature. That's not
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: what they're doing. We're not just heating it up. We're
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: pressurizing it. When we put pressure on something, it does
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: heat up. It's the pressure that what causes fusion because
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: we have to overcome the coolan barrier. It's not just
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: making it hotter. That's that's why I think hot fusion
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: is such a stupid way to think about it. That's
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: not really not what's happening. We want to be thinking about.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: As we're making a gravitational well, it's causing things to
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: come ever together. That's probably the more accurate way to
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: think about it from from the realistic perspective. But long
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: story short, they are causing. With plasma, they cause things
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: to come together, and with the orbs. The way you
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: should imagine is you've got this plasma ball, but we've
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: got two ends on it. So one end you got
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: this air coming in getting iron eyes turned into plasma.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: And then it's like a traffic jam. It's getting pushed
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: through this squeeze from this little tube and the magnetic
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: field lines are squeezing it together. So what does that do?
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: Oh slows it down, It gets stuck those that matter
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: coming in through the front. It's kind of getting stuck.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: And then when it's getting pressed together, boom, there you go.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: You've got fusion. That's exactly what we need to happen.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: So I think the big thing they figured out is
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: stop trying to like perfectly confine it. Let the plasma
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: do what it wants to do. The plasma wants to
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: shoot jets out, use them can control the jets, and
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: then where that jets shoot through your plasma ball, use
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: that as the fusion where you're gonna have the fusion occur.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: The last bit is this, how do you manage the heat?
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: Because even if that okay, you are creating these pressures
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: that are caused the infusion to occur, there should be
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: thermal heat coming out of this thing. You have to
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: have really good thermal regulation. And so they figured out
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: several ways to do this. I think it's Charles Chase
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: or somebody else I found, I think has plasma actuators. Basically,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: it's like the shear of the plasma going over the
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: surface can be like turned into turn into electricity. And
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: then the other thing you found is that there's like
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: thermal electric generators they can use to So they've clearly
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: figured out some additional technology to basically manage the heat
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: that's coming out of that so that it stays at
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: a very like room temperature level. Because when we leave
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: those plasma balls, they were like the same temperature as
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: like the air and the plane. They weren't like red
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: hot or anything like that. So even if in the
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: middle there's this red hot thing happening. It must get
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: cool by the time it gets to like the edge
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: of the bubble. There you go, that's my best guess.
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  Speaker 2: At that, thank you. Well.
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  Speaker 6: It could also it could also be a geometric factor,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 6: you know, like the geometric field that they're generating actually
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 6: do create that compression, and so you know, looking at
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 6: it from that perspective, you can kind of understand why
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 6: they would want to do it in the open air
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 6: and not have that confinement.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: And it might be able to work underwater too. I
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: think those orbs are probably trans medium. I think that
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: the place where they would work the lease spwell is
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: actually in outer space, because I think they're actually using
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: the air to preionize, to like add plasma to the reaction.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: And so I think they design those orbs to imagine
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: they would be used in our atmosphere and maybe underwater
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: as well if they can ionize the hydro you know,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: the hydrogen out of the water and use that. But
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: I think you need a different solution if you're going
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: to go outer space, which maybe is that teleportation thing.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: And there's definitely a geometrical aspect, no question to all
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: of this, which is the thing that I've been tiptoed
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: around the most because a lot of people call it
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: sacred geometry. I don't really care what the geometry is
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: that allows it to work, but absolutely if you start
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: digging into wormholes and nukes, you will find that they
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: both are heavily reliant on geometry. Heavily reliant on geometry.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: Inside of all, it's all about with the geometry of
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: nukes that they're trying to figure out. If we are
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: trying to ignite a fusion reaction, how do I get
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: the waves to hit it at the exact right point
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: in the way where it will cause that fusion reaction,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: that fusion bomb to go off. That's how they were
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: thinking about it. So Fridert Winterberg has this polyhedral configuration,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: geometric configuration, perfect equilateral triangle around your fusion detonation. I
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: saw that in his textbo I'm going wow, looks just
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: like the orbs in the videos. Like maybe even wonder
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: second guess, like maybe the lithium in the plane was
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: being used as a fusion bomb and those orbs are
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: the triggers essentially to make it go off. I can't
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: say for sure, but still possible. So sorry, I got
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: a little sidetracked there, but yeah, oh yeah, sorry. The
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: other thing without the wormhole, there's also a polyhedral wormhole configuration.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that. I can't believe how many there's
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: like five different kinds of wormholes. I thought there was
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: just like one, but no, there's like all these different kinds.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: One of them is a spinning configuration, and you can
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: mix the spinning configuration with a polyhedral configuration, which creates
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: a flat face surface. The benefit being if you need
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: negative energy, this minimizes the amount of negative energy you
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: need because you're not trying to move this huge region
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: like this. You're just trying to make a flat surface.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: So what you're really doing is you're making like a mirror.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: And what they do is they stitch together two points.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: So you say, okay, my negative energy, all I have
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: to do is stitch together this flat face surface, and
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: I'm going to connect here it over here, and then
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: if I go through over here on this side right now,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I just appear over here. But
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: it's only a temporary wormhole too, it's not a permanent portal.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: And this is one of the other things I found
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: is that if you read the Non Locality Paper, a
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: defense intelligence reference document by John Kramer. He talks about
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: we may not be able to make like permanent portals
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: because this idea of time becomes really fuzzy, Like your
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: flow of time might not be the same over here
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: as it is over here. We just assume it is
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: because we're all on Earth. Our flow of times all
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: the same because we're all on the same planet. But
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: if you were on a planet this a lot more
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: massive than our planet, your gravity would be different. Therefore
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: your flow of time would be different compared to ourt
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: flow of time. So if you imagine a portal between
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: a super heavy planet and our planet, if you were
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: looking through it, one side would look like they're moving
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: in super speed and the other side would look like
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: they're moving in slow mo. So that would be very
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: bizarre if you were to go through that. What happens when,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: like your your arm goes through it, and now your
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: arm is moving in slow mo, but your rest of
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: your bodies on the other side. Like this is the
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: reason why I think even from like just some thinking
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: about a perspective, it would start to get really weird
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: on how that could work.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 6: Right, But I think I think there's precedent to kind
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: of look at these things as side effects of what
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 6: they were originally trying to do, and so you could
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 6: see how these type of side effects could have, you know,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 6: massive implications that nobody's even thought of yet.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, and I think the biggest
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: one is like, are you going to break the time stream?
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: You know, like if we can go back in time,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: that would be the biggest fear. My fears were somewhat
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: alleviated reading the same John Kramer paper where he says
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: that all the og physicists that figured out atom bombs
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: and all this stuff, they believe that nature wasn't going
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: to let us go back in time, that somehow like
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: quantum entanglement would break down or something when you try
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: to do that, and they actually worked around it. They
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: built a teleportation protocol just assuming that you can't go
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: back in time with no retrocausality. They created an EPR
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: experiment where they can control the length of the path
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: of one of the two entangled photons, and they say, Okay,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: don't make it go back in time, just make it
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: be exactly like instant transmission, because that way there's no retrocausality,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: like what's the fastest you can go without going back
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: in time? Instant like instant teleportation from one point to
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: the next. Right that way, you're not there's no retro
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: causality issue. So that's what they built. And that's crazy
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: because that would mean that those if that's what's happening
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: in the plane video, that would mean there's something at
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: the destination. I mean they've created like here's point A
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: and here's point B, and they've engineered the two points.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: So actually that would mean it's more of like a
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: warp gate or something like that, right in sci fi,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: like you have to have something at this point where
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: it's like actually connecting those and then you flick it
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: on and then you go through and then you appear
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: at the other side.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 9: I was Asha, and I was going to say, doesn't
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 9: it somewhat have a basis in the WU experiment when
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 9: she was looking at ultraweek electromagnetic forces and you know,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 9: they moved her over to the Manhattan Project. But also
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 9: the new papers that have come out about neutrinos, how
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 9: they're traveling back in time, so.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 8: To speak, would that all be related to what you are.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: I think in neutrinos as like the ether. I think
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: that's the mainstream, like the relic neutrinos is the way
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: they like. I think that when they're talk about the trees,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: they're talking about like sub atomic particles, everything below electrons
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: and atoms. To me, like I think of as like
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: when physicists are talking about it. I think of it
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: as like a fuzzy concept, not something that's like super
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: hard because we don't see that stuff. It's really more
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: how we kind of conceptualize it. So that's how I
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: think about the neutrino aspect. Sorry, what was the other
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: thing that you were saying?
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 8: Oh about the Wu experiment, how she capitalized on the week.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: So people should check up my interview with doctor U
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: from NASA, doctor you from NASA, who has a yuon theory,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: his unification theory that everything is just magnetism, because he
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: has a really good experiment of how this is possible
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: where he says, okay, you imagine your two atoms that
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: are repelling each other, they don't want to come together. Now,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: just imagine that it's a magnet where it's got positive
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: north and negative south. And this is the reason why
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: they're you know, two norths are gonna repel each other. Okay,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: but what happens if I flip this one over? Now
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: the south is facing this way. Now they're going to
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: come together. And he says, what if this is how
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: it's really working. What if we have these extra degrees
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: of freedom. Everything is just spinning, spinning little spheres and
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: it seems like they can't come together. But all we
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: have to do is just reorient it. If we just
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: reorient it, now they'll boom come together. That would be
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: anyone who's research nuclear physics. You know, if you start
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: to figure something like that out, you're going dark because
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: now you've figured out how we can do fusion really easily, potentially,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: because once you figure out the mechanism for flipping around
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: that that spin, changing manipulating that spin, now you can
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: get rid of the cool on barrier. Essentially the thing
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: hold space.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 9: It reminds me of and when you look at the
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 9: I guess, not the prototype but the actual mechanism of
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 9: the guy from Locked Martin that you just showed with
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 9: the film, If you look at it on Google, it
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 9: almost looks like a mitochondria, you know, within the cell
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 9: with power houses the cell right mitochondria itself somewhat has
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 9: fusion itself by finding photons into you know, utilizing that
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 9: as its currency. But what it also does is it
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 9: also produces its own light, and it also produces its
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 9: own water. And with mitochondria, it can also produce waves
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 9: to manipulate.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 8: I guess it's like a preprint paper that.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 9: Came out that was talking about how it can send
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 9: out signals in a plasma formation or form.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 8: So it showed that mechanism. Kid was shows like, oh
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 8: my god, that looks like monochondria.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: It's funny because they literally the two ways to stabilize
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: plasma I saw one is axial rotation. The other one
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: is a helical rotation. Helical meaning DNA right a spiral.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: And if you play this video that I was put out,
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: I think you're going to enjoy this. What does plasma
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: do in outer space? In zero G? If you just
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: put some dust into it so that you give it
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: some substance and they just let the plasma do its
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: own thing form structures, it begins to naturally form structures
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: in zero G. Can you pull up this video here?
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: I think it'll be a fun one to watch because
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: it's going to connect to those ideas that you're talking about.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna mute it because it might be a
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: copyright thing or whatever. I think the music's fine. But
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: you can see here, look at the plasma form these structures.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: You can see these tendrils being formed from it. So
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: why is this important? Because we're seeing these electrostatic forces,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: we're seeing those nuclear forces. That's why it's doing this.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: So whatever it's structuring into it has to be because
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: of these forces. One of the cool things they're going
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: to show here in a second is that avoid just
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: naturally forms like just a black circle. Void forms where
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: the plasma just goes all around. It almost looks like
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: a black hole. So this is a Russian experiment that
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: these guys were testing. That's why we've got the subtitles here.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: And so yeah, because of their repulsion and attraction, they
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: form this lattice structure. Look at that lattice structure right there.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: You can see the structure basically informed from it. And
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: then they would see this empty void appear in the
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: middle of the lattice structure. Look at that void. How
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: crazy is that? That's just zero G plasma floating around
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: in zero G of natural void just forms. Look at that.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: That's insane. But the best part coming up here in
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: a second is that the plasma also doesn't just organize
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: like this where it almost looks like a squid or
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: something creepy. It also forms to explain galaxies, and it
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: also formed to explain there's your galaxy right there. Look
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: at that. Look at how fast the stars of the
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: edges or these are just little particles of dust, But
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: this explains, like we don't need dark matter. There's your
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: answer right there. The edges are spinning almost as fast
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: as the center because it's just plasma in space. And
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: then the last part is the DNA. The plasma also
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: forms double helix structures naturally in outer space as well,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: so it goes to show these double helix structures. It
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: must be a natural pheno. I look at that. This
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: is the craziest to me looking at that, like that
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: looks just like a double helix. So that's one of
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: my favorite videos on plasma. When I'm trying to get
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: people inve be like why is plasma cool? It's like,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: have you seen what it does in outer space when
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: it's just floating around freely? Pretty cool?
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 9: It almost it almost gives a nod to vortex ma
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 9: and some of those concepts of thirty six nine.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 8: And then you look at secret.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 9: Societies and how they kind of manipulate their sigils and
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 9: what have you. And when you look at these sigils,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 9: these sigils almost manipulate what formations are made in biological structure.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 9: And I think biological structures, yes, they are intelligent themselves,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 9: but I think they are following what is it Nature
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 9: follows the path of the these right, pick the most common.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 9: It's not a female. It's not going to pick the
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 9: most complicated, you know anything. It's going to follow the
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 9: path of least resistance. And I think that is what
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 9: we're seeing. Whether it is with the Fibonacci sequence or
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 9: the golden ratio or plasma forming into helical structures, it's
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 9: basically showing you what the plasma itself is doing.
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  Speaker 1: I think, in my opinion, you're right, the vortex structures
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: are connected all of this. And I'm not somebody I
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: don't really care about the you know, imagery or numerology.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: And if that stuff connects, it connects right great for me.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: That's how I view it. I'm not saying it's I'm
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: not discrediting it, but the vortex stuff people like that's
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: in the science vortex motion related to it is like
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: the way they view it is the same way where
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: you'd view pulling the drain on your bathtub, so like
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: you pull the drain in your bathtub. In the vortex forms,
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: it's extra dimensional vortex, right Like when we look at
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: it on the surface, it just looks like a ring.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: But if you were to measure it, you could see
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: this is actual vortex pulling through the medium. That's how
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: you can look at the zero point energy when we're
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: interacting with it as well. And in fact, it's gone
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: so far as they're solving those vortex equations, solving Schrodinger's equations.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: And then you would ask, like what could you do
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: if you could solve that vortex? And what if you
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: if you could solve that vortex in the ether that
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: we can't physically see because it's extra dimensional, could you
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: like actually control entanglement? Could you cause something to appear
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: here and over here and be connected to one another?
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: I think the answer is yes, And I think that's
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: how they figured out teleportation was first figure out how
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: we can actually control the ethic control the medium, and
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: now you can get things that look like magic to
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: begin to happen.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 6: Victor Schauberger was writing about that. He was another one
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 6: of these Operation paper Clip type scientists who started over
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 6: in Austria and then came to America, had all of
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 6: his papers stolen and he was just kicked out. It's
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 6: like you're fired. Now we're taking all this stuff. I'm real.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in Tesla, there were a lot of guys that
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: were probably like one hundred years before their time, honestly,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: and you think back going that far, those people had
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: no chance. You were never going to convince people that
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: were riding on horses and what have you that you know,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: you could do, you could levitate and things like that
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: that they were saying, or that free energy was possible.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, those people were living in you know, at
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: the time, we were living in a world where there's
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: you couldn't think of stuff that was esoteric like that.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: The idea that an object is a wave. I mean,
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: that's even too far out there for most people right
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: now twenty twenty five. So that's what makes it so
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: difficult for people. And that's why I think that the
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: best thing that we can do people ask me like,
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: why are you not building something? Why are you not
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: doing whatever? It's like building something's not gonna help. People
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: are already building it and they just get ignored, discredited
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: or whatever. It's like we have to demystify this. We
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: have to like actually break it down for people and
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: be like, okay, no, like actually matter is really a wave,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: so that means we can do you know, a matter
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: wave and things like that and explain, like what can
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: we actually do with this stuff talk about it in
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: a normal way and not talk about it and laugh
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: about it like they do on mainstream media when they
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: talk about aliens and stuff like that, like, oh, you know,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: it turns out we can make a replicator with this.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: That's my favorite one Star Trek replicator. People can get
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: their minds around that. They go, wait, we can make
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: a replicator. Doesn't that like free everything forever? Yes, exactly,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: unlimited abundance, the end of scarcity.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 7: Well, even that double slid experiment they did a while back,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 7: they were going back and forth if it was a
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 7: wave or a particle, wave or a particle And from
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 7: my understanding, and like I said, I'm a Southern man,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 7: so I'm a little slow but from what I took
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 7: from it was that they had come to the conclusion
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 7: that it was.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: Basically both that when you observe it, it's a wave.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 7: When you observe it, it's almost like it has a consciousness,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 7: but when you are not observing it, it turns into
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 7: a particle. So I thought that was pretty wild concept.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the reason why it's the most mysterious
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: experiment in all of physics. I mean, my interpretation is
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: that it's not a particle. Is that we give it
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: a particle like quality to explain it in our reality.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: But the answer is it's always was a wave. And
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: I think where Einstein was wrong. Einstein actually won his
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: Nobel Prize in the photoelectric effects, which was we take
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: a piece of metal and we shoot light at it,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: and the electrons are gonna get ripped off the metal.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: So we know that that should happen from a physics perspective.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: What we did not expect is that if I increased
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: the brightness of the light, we'd expect the electrons to
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: get shot off faster, like that's just normal physic If
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: I increased the intensity, there should be more energy. Therefore
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: the electron should get shot off at a higher speed.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: But that didn't happen. The electrons were getting shot off
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: the same speed even when I increased the brightness of
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: the light. But that doesn't make sense. If I push
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: on a rock harder, the rock's going to move further, right,
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: simple physics. So what was going on? So Einstein all
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: these scientists came up with, how do we explain this? Well,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: there's another mystery. They figured out how to make the
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: electrons shoot out faster, and it's not increasing the brightness.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: It's by changing the color of the light. What well,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: what is changing the color of the light? Changing the
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: color lights, changing the frequency of the light. So it's
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: not increasing the brightness and the intensity. It's changing the
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: wavelength of the light. Causes the electron either shoot at
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: a higher or lower So Einstein thought, oh, well, there
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: must be this magical quantum of light. We'll call it
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: a photon. This quantum of light, this packet of light,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: and the packet size can change, and that's how it's
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: interacting with that. I think that's retarded, no offense. I
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: think that's stupid. But because the answer is resonance. Once
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: you told me that it's the color of the light
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: changing the intensity. The answer is frequency. The answer is
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: if I have this wave of going like this and
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: this wave is exactly the same, there's gonna be a
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: significant reaction. They're going to cancel each other out perfectly.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: But if one of them just going like this and
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: the other one's going crazy, there's gonna be a different reaction.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: Maybe there'll be very little reaction to that case. So
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: resonance is the answer, which is sad because it would
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: mean the Tesla is right about everything. Energy, frequency, vibration
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: is all of it. And that would mean that Einstein,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: when he went down with this photon and particle interpretation
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: like set us back really far, because that mindset is
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: what's holding this back, that mindset that everything's a particle,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: because we really desperately want this to be a physical object.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: But when you look at it and you boil it down,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: this isn't a physical This is mostly empty. This cup
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: is mostly empty And the only reason why I didn't
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: go through the cup is because the electrons in this
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: cup repelled the electrons in my hand. That's the real
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: way the world works. We just don't perceive it though.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly head So I don't know if you're trying
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: to say something, but your mute. Sorry.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 6: Super cold hydrogen fork creates a superfluid that can go
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 6: through any object. So is it really going through the
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 6: object or is it just not going along with the
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 6: same sort of frequency.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it came through the question right right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: superfluid helium too. And then that's the thing is that
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: when we bring some of these liquids to like near zero,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: they begin to act like a quantum We see quantum
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: effects occur to act in one big unison. You can
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: watch these Fara fluids or some of the fun things
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: to watch. But this is the same idea as bose
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: eins conesse. The Boseeisen connoise begins to act in unison
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: and we see these quantum effects occur. So when we
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: are trying to cheat and create free energy, almost all
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: the concepts are free energy manipulate quantum mechanics because on
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: the quantum level, a pendulum never stops. At the quantum level,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: the pendulum is always going back and forth, always jiggling,
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: which means there's infinite energy there. So if we can
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: somehow scale that up, we can take that effect and
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: make it big. Macroscoptic there's your free energy. So a
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: lot of the best designs that I reviewed for microchips
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: andavy that's what they're doing. They're just like, oh, we
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: found this crazy quantum effect that never stops, and now
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: we're just trying to scale it up.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 6: Absolutely.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: Did anybody have any other questions or anything that you
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 4: wanted to get in? I did have one thing, And
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 4: maybe it might be too long, but I just think
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: for our listeners might be interesting because I heard you
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 4: mentioned it recently.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: I think you're even mentioning Peter Tiel and so Sam
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: Moltman kind of involved in this stuff. What's your thoughts
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: on that. We have our opinion of Peter Teel too.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: It's probably the same thing as yours. I think you
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: said the anti christ.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: I mean he talks about it's weird, but I mean
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: I don't hate the guy.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I just trust him.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: He's definitely got insider information, you know. So it's like,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: you know, you apply the same stuff that happens to
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: the Congress. Congress is like Nancy Pelosi has the best
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: stock market portfolio, Like there is like seventy percent gains
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: or something like that. It's like, obviously she has inside
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: information right, because she's connected to people that are in
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: the know what have you. Same thing is true for
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: Peter Teel. I mean that's why he's connected the CIA.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: He's connected the people that know about this technology, and
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: therefore they know where to invest, they know what to do.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: In some cases probably a backroom sweetheart handshake deals already
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: in place. And this is how the CI controls these
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: people too. If they tell you, oh, hey, go invest
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: in heally infusion because field diverse configuration fusion is the
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: secret and they're gonna be the one that's successful. You
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: go invest all your money there. You will be a
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: trillionaire in the future. But here's the drawback. Now you
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: got to do it, we say, right, we own you now.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: Pretty much. That's my opinion of Peter Thiel and all
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: these other people. I think they're just complete phone us
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: and I think they've basically just been elevated to this level.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: I hate that we give them status like they're better
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: than other people, like their opinion means more than other people,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: because it doesn't doesn't at all. They were basically just
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: selected to be that thing. So I don't have a
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: huge amount of respect for Peter Thiel and I also
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: don't like what Palenteer is doing because I know that
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: Pallenteer is basically just taking all the data that's available
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: on the Internet about you, and they're making a profile
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: of you. Doesn't even have to say your name, and
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: they still know who you are. They don't. They probably
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: know you better than you know you, but they just
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: give it some dummy number. And this is how they
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: get around privacy violations. And then if the law enforcement,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: if you ever do something illegal, they'll just say, okay,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: it turns out that you know Astion Forbes was X one, two, three,
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: four five. Now they have a whole profile for you.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: Now Palenteer just spits at the law enforcement. They know
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: everything you've ever done in your whole life, and they
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: have it all package. You're ready to go where you've
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: ever lived, everything like that. For a lot of people
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: they would say that's a privacy issue, absolutely. I mean sure,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, we're not going backwards, man.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: People aren't using the Internet less and less. You know
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: that's going to happen no matter what. My answer to
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: that is, make the tools available for everybody, let the
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: public use those tools, let the public know what's out there.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: About if I search for me what I find. That
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: way I can control what I put out there and
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: know what's available for people, including law enforcement.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: Well, sir lisaid, you want to say something.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, just really a quick comment, just going back to
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 9: the I guess the technology you were talking about with
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 9: the missing plane when it disappeared in that the disinformation people,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 9: the people that are coming out saying that it's fake,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 9: you know, and what have you.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 8: Would you think that some of these people that are.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 9: Saying that is a way of distracting the rest of
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 9: us from realizing the technology of Whammy and that you
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 9: do have drones that that do have the ability scale
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 9: down such a small remote sensing viewability so to speak,
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 9: and that they are watching, they are surveilling, that they
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 9: are collecting all this data in real time from these
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 9: drones with that forget what the you called it the Groxstair,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 9: thank you?
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, that was it.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 9: It was just more of like a decoy, like, let's
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 9: decoy that it's all fake and it's all aliens versus
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 9: everybody kind of looking the Gorgon Stair is actually the
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 9: bigger you know thing.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: I don't like to say, like a lot of people
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: want I only have there be like one answer. What
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: have you like? I think aliens are definitely real. I
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: mean I don't know if they're visiting us, but they're
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: definitely aliens out there somewhere. In fact, we might be
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: like their cousins, We might be aliens, who knows. I
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: just think it's so much more impactful to our society
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: a boy like free energy, teleportation, and then even the
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: surveillance capabilities I had argue are more important than the
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: alien question. Aliens existing, Fine, that's not really a big
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: thing for me. Sure you know they exist. If they're
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: going to start, you know, interfering, then they should start
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: paying taxes or whatever else everybody else has to do.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: But the surveillance cability, they definitely don't want people knowing
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: about that surveillance capability. I mean that's really advanced, like
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: you're talking DVR capabilities. Because now you take what I said,
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: just a second of them making a profile about you,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: and by the way, what am I gonna tell you
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: they've already done, like we've got the videos on it
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: can show them. They combine that now with the whammy,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: and now the AI is tracking every moving object on
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: the screen, every moving object on the screen, every car,
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: every plane, every person walking around is all being tracked
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: by the AI. Now, not only do they have a
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: profile of you, they know where you've ever been, and
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: they could be like, okay, pull up last week when
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: ashtonal was walking his dog out of the park and
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: then just pull that up and just follow you around
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: reversing like that movie The Net with Sandra Bullock or
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: Enemy at the State in the nineties. Like they've got
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: that now, that's the stuff that's scary now. For now,
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: I think that we're somewhat safe from that until the
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: zones are flying above the cities. But in the riots
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: and things like that, the drones were flying above the
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: cities and they were doing that. It's not like that
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: data goes away. They've got that forever. And it's not
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: like they were just limited to the one little area
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: either they've got the one hundred square kilometers or something
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: like that minimum. It's a whole city they're covering with
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: these drones. So yeah, I definitely think there's a big
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: risk there. And then the next step is, Okay, they
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: were doing this on a drone in twenty fourteen, that
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: was eleven years ago. Have they figured out how to
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: put it on the satellites or like Starlink satellites for example,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: and now do that same idea, but with satellites where
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: they don't even have to have a drone. That's the
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  Speaker 1: next level. And I would be surprised if they don't
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: have that.
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  Speaker 6: Now. Well, as long as we don't know about it,
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 6: then they can use it for infinite social engineering, you know,
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 6: because it's not just about what they can get one
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 6: person to do, is how can they link all this
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 6: behavior together in a certain direction using you know, maybe
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 6: household objects that are all connected to the Internet.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: Absolutely everything that's a sensor is probably feeding into palanteer.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: I would look at it like that, you know. That's
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: that's the way of the world. There's not going to
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: be very much privacy in the future, for sure. I
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: mean I don't I just don't know. If there's not
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: much you I'm not saying it's a good or bathroom,
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: just saying it is what it is. The best we
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: can do is probably be aware of it, you know,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: be aware of what they're doing on that front. That's
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: why those videos were so important, is they exposed this
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: whammy capability, this whammy capability that you can see where
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: that's going to lead to, and it gives us some
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: context to understand it, whereas before no one even knew
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: what that was. It also tells us, man, they have
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of surveillance when it comes to their covert operations,
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: and it also shows that must be a covert operation.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: I mean that drone is one hundred square kilometers is big,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: but that's in the middle of the ocean. They don't
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: have drones everywhere on the planet, you know, So that
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: meant they were ready for that thing to go down.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: They were ready for that to happen. They had two
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: drones recording it from two different angles. So the scary
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: part there is like, oh, man, we're doing some sketchy
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: black operations with this technology, with this surveillance capability that
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: I guarantee they have some legal justification for what they did.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: But if that comes out to the public, screw your
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: legal justification. Your legal justification is, oh, well, it killed
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: ninety percent of innocent people, but we got the ten
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: percent that we wanted, so it's okay. Public's not going
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: to buy that.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Hey, Ashen, I was taking a lot of
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 5: notes that you was talking about. But one thing that
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 5: caught my attention is that you said that we got
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 5: this information is technology from somewhere. Now.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: You mentioned the.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 5: Word aliens a lot, and you mentioned, you know, you know,
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 5: the craft that can go underwater and stuff like that.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 5: I'm really big on the Anona slash to Ananaki. I
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 5: know if you've heard of them plenty of times, and
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 5: a lot of people will say that they came from
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 5: a planet named Nibert orbits are still in every thirty
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 5: six hundred years. Well, their actual texts, their cuneiform texts,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 5: and their depictions actually say that they came from the
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 5: deaths of the sea. I've shared the resources for that
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 5: so many different times, and it's just interesting that you
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 5: said that their technology would probably be better underwater than
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 5: it would be in space. And that makes more of
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 5: an idea of there is something that has to do
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 5: with our water that's giving us this disability. And a
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 5: case in point is inky slash Ea. He came from
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 5: the deaths of the seas to give humans technology and
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 5: information and so on and so forth. So you know,
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 5: I wonder you know, because you said that nobody has
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 5: ever been able to debunk you and say that that
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 5: your information is wrong. And you've been able to counter
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 5: everything that they've said that they brought to you in
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 5: so many different way. I'm that kind of that way
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 5: with when it comes to ancient texts. If they said
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 5: that the Sumerian says something, I want to see where
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 5: they got that information from, so I can be just
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 5: as accurate as they are. And I'm telling you everything
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 5: that I keep hearing right now is something from the
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 5: Deaths of the Seas has given us information that we
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 5: possibly are trying to figure out on the easy basis
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 5: up here.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm not an expert on anaky, I'm
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: familiar with the idea, but I do like it because
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: I think that if there is a civilization hiding on
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: this planet, it's definitely underwater. I mean that's the place
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: you would hide for sure. With this kind of technology
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: being having a civilization underwater is no problem either. I mean,
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: you can just make a bubble and you can. You
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: have alchemy, you have transmutation, you have everything you need.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: You can make a society anywhere you want. So I
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: do like that idea, and I'm very intrigued by the
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: lore around, like underwater UFO bases and things like that,
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: which would surprise me if we do find something down there.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: And I also like the idea of like we are
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: the alien or we were put here by the aliens
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: or something like that, because that's one of the only
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: ways where it can kind of make sense where there's
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: this hyper advanced technology that doesn't seem like we found
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: it organically, where it seems like there was something happening
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: to it. And also just just this idea of like,
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: if you look at this planet, out of all the
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: different species that exist on this planet, billions of species,
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: what's the one that sticks out? Oh, it's us. We
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: stick out like a sore thumb on this planet. We've
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: like reshaped the planet. We have the one of the
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: biggest populations if you don't include insects, right, Like, we're
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: the ones that stick out the most. We're the ones
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: that are like the alien species on this planet. So
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: the uninoccupying I think is really interesting and also because
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: of how it connects to ancient history and you know
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: whether or not, like the pyramids and stuff like that
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: are really as young as they say they are or
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: potentially maybe a lot older, or that there was you know,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: major flooding and things that coincide with the Bible. I
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: think a lot of those allow for this option where
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: we forgot our history, like something happened and we forgot
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: who we really were, Like maybe we were more advanced
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: or advanced in more in different ways in the past,
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: more than we think now. All of those I think
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: are just interesting ideas that I think are very possible
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: to be real.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Don't do anybody else have anything else they
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: wanted to ask or bring up before we wrap it up? Okay,
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: all right, a great interview.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, hell yeah, my brain is scrambled, your job ashed,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 7: and yeah, yeah it's fun.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: You guys are fun. That was cool. Yeah, and I'm glad.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you guys aren't afraid of Like I mean,
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: if you want to ask me something about debunks and
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: things like that too, you know. I just I like
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: to answer any questions that are out there, and I'm
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: not here to tell you like you know you're saying,
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: you know you've debunked all the demustle. But yeah, I
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: feel like I've given adequate explanations for all the debunks
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: that are out there. And I happen to know the
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: videos are real. But I understand why people don't believe it.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm somebody myself that even if you go
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: back like ten years ago, I would add a completely
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: different mindset of everything going on in the world. So
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: I look at it more of like everybody's kind of
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: on their own journey of discovery for the most part. Yeah,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to like push it along as
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: best as I can for the people that are ready,
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: Doing a great job. I think, thank you, sir.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 4: Before we wrap it up, I'll have the other people
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 4: here just plug their shows again and Lisa, what is
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 4: going on? They cult reject mad scientists.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 8: Thank you so much.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 9: Oh sorry, Nick, I'll just go jump to tell Ashton
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 9: that I thought this was an amazing presentation. I apologize, Nick,
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 9: that's amazing. I've heard, I've heard of you, I've listened
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 9: to a little bit of you. It was a very
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 9: candid interview. I thank you for answering all our different questions,
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 9: and you left with like Tylone was saying, I took
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 9: so many notes, You've left so many seeds to kind
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 9: of launch from. Thank you again, and thank you fellow
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 9: rejects for having me on and letting me interrupt again
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 9: as usual. The only thing I like to plug is
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 9: a cult Research Institute org We have a couple of
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 9: prejects that contribute to that website in literary form. If
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 9: you'd like to check us out a cult research institut
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 9: John Orgon, if you'd like to get a hold of
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 9: me through Twitter. Soalise Lisa is the best place.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you very much, and we got the
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: Hell's Giant.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 6: Well. I don't want to leave the audience not having
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 6: a complete or near complete list of authors that you
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 6: would recommend for them to read up on so that
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 6: they can get on the same level of knowledge that
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 6: you have right now. So if you could give the
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 6: people a quick list or you know, maybe a long
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 6: list of the authors you've read that have led you here,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 6: that would be perfect.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: I don't really have a list ready, but I mean
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: start with Hal put Off, Tom Bearden, Eric W. Davis.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: Those are probably the first three to start with, the
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: reason being that help put Off and Eric Davis are
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: both alive still. Eric Davis is testifying at these UFO
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: whistleblower conferences, but he's written papers on teleportation for the
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: Air Force. I mean, the disconnect is intane. So that's
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: where I would start with those guys papers, the ones
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: and hal Putoffs when I mentioned earlier, gravity is a
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: zero point fluctuation force. And even if you're somebody that's
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: not deep in physics, okay, we'll have the AI interpret
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: it for you and explain it to you in a
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: way that you can understand, you know, And that's that's
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: where you start. Nobody starts understanding everything perfectly right away.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: So those are probably the first three that I would
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: start with, and then from there, I would say move
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: into the durds, the Defense Intelligence Reference Documents. Eric Davis
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: wrote six of them actually, and how Putoff wrote one
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: as well, And that's where you'll begin to find some
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: of these other engineers and scientists like John Kramer and
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: Fred wert Winnerberg that I mentioned, including Paul SiZ Is
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: another guy that I liked that wrote the papers on
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: megneto hydrodynamics for propulsion. I think he wrote the a
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: neutronic propulsion fusion propulsion paper too. So all these concepts
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: are all peer reviewed, signed to be papers. They've been
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: written by you know, PhDs and black project engineers that
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: are out there. So one more time, the durd's Defense
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: Intelligence Reference Documents, they were declined assified slash like released
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: via Foya back in like twenty seventeen, but they were
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: the most popular scientific papers on the Pentagon's like secret
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: air Gap server for a number of years before that.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: So that's where I recommend checking those out. Everything you
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: see in those papers is real.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: Nice good question, Lis. Did you want to plug your
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 2: show Headless?
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you can find my show on Thursday nights. We
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 6: look at your mail. If it has something to do
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 6: with a paranormal or an interesting dream that you've had
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 6: or stuff like that, you can find me on YouTube
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 6: and uh yeah, so check out the Headless Giant podcast
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 6: at gmail dot.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: Com if you have those stories. Thank you awesome, Thank
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: you very much. And Sarah, what is going on? I will?
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: I'm good.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 3: That was an excellent presentation and I like that it
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: was put in a way that I could mostly understand it.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 3: I'm also from the South, some little slow, like you said,
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 3: I just want to plug the Institute for Natural Philosophy
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 3: as well as our magazine. You can see that at
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 3: Institute for Naturalphilosophy dot org. And I would also like
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 3: to plug our podcast Universe Unveiled.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome, Thank you very much.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 5: Man Tyron, Yeah, that was an excellent presentation. I took
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 5: a lot of notes, so I'm gonna be hitting you
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, this is.
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  Speaker 5: Definitely amazing everybody. I appreciate everybody for letting me be here. Nick,
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 5: thanks for letting me be here man.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: Of course, of course, no, thank you for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: And let's been not at least Doc what is going on, sir?
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  Speaker 4: all for making the show. I really appreciate you all
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  Speaker 4: putting the time aside and coming on. I really had
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 4: some awesome questions and thank you all and everybody in
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 4: the chat. There was just too many for me to
• 2:02:00
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• 2:02:01
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  Speaker 2: It was a great time.
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  Speaker 4: And that is the end of another Recult Rejects and
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