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ARTE ANGER: Calls for Arte Moreno to sell Angels grow louder among frustrated fans · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Halo territory. I'm Mike D. Giovanna, former Ela Times Baseball
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  Speaker 1: writer and host of the show, joined by Mark Trumbo,
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  Speaker 1: our regular co host, and The Angels former Angels Slugger
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  Speaker 1: and Boy. The Angel fans are angry, and we'll get
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  Speaker 1: into some of these sell the team chants that got
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  Speaker 1: louder and louder this week later in the show. But
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  Speaker 1: first we want to bring you a conversation I had
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  Speaker 1: with Mike Trout after Wednesday's six' five ten inning loss
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  Speaker 1: to The. Athletics they're twenty third loss in twenty nine,
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  Speaker 1: games so it seems.
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  Speaker 2: To be a weird year.
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  Speaker 1: Already here you're, healthy you're playing center field every, day
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  Speaker 1: you're hitting the, ball and now team, wise things are
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  Speaker 1: slipping away a little.
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  Speaker 2: Bit is it harness reconcile those two things right? Now,
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  Speaker 2: yeah it's.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely, yeah it's, frustrating but we got a tight. GROUP
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  Speaker 3: i know things aren't going our. Way you could, easily you,
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  Speaker 3: know put your head down and, uh you, KNOW i
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  Speaker 3: have a.
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  Speaker 2: Bad attitude about. It, uh for, us we're.
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  Speaker 3: Just kind, of you, know take it one day at a,
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  Speaker 3: time one game at a, time you, know pull from
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  Speaker 3: the same.
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  Speaker 2: Rope what keeps you going right? Now still playing the?
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  Speaker 2: GAME i, love you.
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  Speaker 3: KNOW i obviously, losing you, know, sucks but, uh you,
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  Speaker 3: KNOW i know that for me to come in every,
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  Speaker 3: day work, hard and LIKE i, said just to be
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  Speaker 3: back out there every, day it it's, uh.
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  Speaker 4: It's as much as fans would love for you to
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  Speaker 4: play well, here for you to win, here there's also
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  Speaker 4: this sust fans setting out there that they don't want
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  Speaker 4: to see you play In.
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  Speaker 2: October oh for.
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  Speaker 3: Sure i've been never been here the, lass you, know
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  Speaker 3: ten twelve.
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  Speaker 5: Years so if if things don't turn around here in
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  Speaker 5: the next TIME i even thought about any of, that
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  Speaker 5: would you consider have some for. Trade i'm not even
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  Speaker 5: gonna talk about the trade.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff so is that just because of Your it's not
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  Speaker 2: in your? Nature, nah, NOAH i MEAN i just having
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  Speaker 2: me thought. About, yeah some of these chants going.
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  Speaker 4: On and YOU i assume you hear, them hear the
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  Speaker 4: chance for?
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  Speaker 2: Sure what do you make of? That? YEAH i mean
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  Speaker 2: this is one of. This, yeah how do you feeling
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  Speaker 2: all the? Otherwise physically?
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  Speaker 3: PHYSICALLY i feel fun at the, plate just, uh having
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  Speaker 3: good at, bats just you, know, nothing just trying to
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  Speaker 3: strength some games.
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  Speaker 2: Together so but, uh the work's been.
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  Speaker 5: Great are you surprised how much you've been to the
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  Speaker 5: play center or your playing the whole?
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  Speaker 2: TIME i just playing all the.
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  Speaker 3: Time, Yeah i'm Gonna i'm in a, good you, know
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  Speaker 3: routine coming in every day and, uh you know the
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  Speaker 3: strengths guys and the and the trading staff for you,
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  Speaker 3: know we're on the same page and As zuke is you,
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  Speaker 3: know kind of gave me a thing where IF i
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  Speaker 3: needed today and just go up to him and you,
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  Speaker 3: know tell ME i need.
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  Speaker 2: Today but you, know don't want to be there.
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  Speaker 4: As MUCH i.
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  Speaker 5: Could and how much is playing on both sides of
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  Speaker 5: the ball freeing you up mentally out big?
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  Speaker 3: Time you, know just to be out there with the,
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  Speaker 3: guys you, know just go out there and and be you,
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  Speaker 3: know healthy doing.
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  Speaker 2: It that's that's the big. Things.
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  Speaker 1: Mark you're a former teammate Of Mike. Troutz you kept
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  Speaker 1: up with them over the. Years you know him very.
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  Speaker 1: Well what are you sort of hearing In mike's? Voice, There.
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  Speaker 6: I'm hearing a guy that's doing his best to handle
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  Speaker 6: the hot tamalies being loved his, way and those questions
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  Speaker 6: are on everyone's. Mind so you got to ask. Him
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  Speaker 6: as a, player you got to handle, him AND i
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  Speaker 6: think that he handled them the way that that would
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  Speaker 6: be advised by most wealth crisis management, firms for, example
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  Speaker 6: would would.
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  Speaker 7: Tell you to do your best to.
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  Speaker 6: You, know acknowledge let's say the fan chance while acknowledging
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  Speaker 6: that he is aware of, them you, know not not
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  Speaker 6: add anything to. It and also, okay so if the
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  Speaker 6: tone of his voice is obviously it appears to be,
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  Speaker 6: down that that is that is what it should, be
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  Speaker 6: and it has always been in a prolog room after a.
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  Speaker 6: Loss now if there was you, know hooting and holler and,
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  Speaker 6: JOKING i would really be bothered by that because that
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  Speaker 6: that would show that you, know the loss that they
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  Speaker 6: just you, know it was a tough loss, too simply
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  Speaker 6: just didn't really. Register it didn't, matter and it would
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  Speaker 6: be business as. Usual BUT i think That, mike that's
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  Speaker 6: about his candidates as he's going to. Be everyone knows
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  Speaker 6: that it follows the angels and follows. Him but there
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  Speaker 6: is optimism in there. Too he seems, like at least,
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  Speaker 6: physically he's in a very good. Place his home run
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  Speaker 6: to right center field the other day was. Excellent that
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  Speaker 6: reminded me of of The mic of you, know it's
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  Speaker 6: not The mike of, old but Just Mike, trout and
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  Speaker 6: he's another guy that not another, guy one of the
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  Speaker 6: few guys that runs, hard runs hard down the. Baseline
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  Speaker 6: it was really. FUN i know a number of people
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  Speaker 6: talked about, it at least with me on the. Side
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  Speaker 6: it's so fun to watch him. Run you, know that's
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  Speaker 6: such a, weapon and it always has, been and when
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  Speaker 6: he's feeling good and on the, basis it really is
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  Speaker 6: an awesome, thing and just the rest of it is no.
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  Speaker 2: Good, YEAH i.
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  Speaker 1: KNOW i did a whole show with A boston radio
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  Speaker 1: personality last, week sort of the whole Free Mike trout,
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  Speaker 1: angle and he was asking me If Mike, trout why
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  Speaker 1: is he still In? Anaheim that was the first. Question
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  Speaker 1: and you, know we went over the whole contract, situation
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  Speaker 1: and we all know out here how difficult it would
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  Speaker 1: be to Trade Mike, trout considering there'd be about one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty million left on his deal at The
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  Speaker 1: All star break this. Year but as well as you, Know,
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  Speaker 1: mike do you think if things were still really, bad
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  Speaker 1: say next year the year, after would he quietly go To,
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  Speaker 1: arty would he go to whoever the heck the gm
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  Speaker 1: is at the, time and you, know not demand a.
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  Speaker 1: Trade but he would, say, LISTEN i put him what
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  Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen sixteen years, Here i'd really like to play In?
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  Speaker 1: October can you please trade? Me would you see that
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  Speaker 1: happening With Mike? Trout or is he just is loyalty
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  Speaker 1: so important to? Him is he just? Not is it
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  Speaker 1: not in HIS dna to do?
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  Speaker 7: That it's spirit. SPECULATION i can't answer for.
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  Speaker 6: Him at some, point if he wanted to be that
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  Speaker 6: open and honest about, it maybe he would. Be BUT
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  Speaker 6: i strongly doubt that that would, happen just based on
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  Speaker 6: the history and how he has. OPERATED i think he
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  Speaker 6: does feel a lot of loyalty to this team gave
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  Speaker 6: him a lot of financial security early on in his.
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  Speaker 6: Career he deserved it and more and he's earned if
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  Speaker 6: you go by the war argument and how arbitration and
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  Speaker 6: other things, work he's earned it every penny and more
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  Speaker 6: that he's getting paid in the. Contract, yes this is
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  Speaker 6: what it looks like when a guy signs a long
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  Speaker 6: term deal in his thirty four years old and reasonably
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  Speaker 6: this is this is above. EXPECTATIONS i, mean mid. Thirties
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  Speaker 6: you never know what you're gonna Get sometimes it's it's,
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  Speaker 6: literally you, know it's. Nothing it's on the couch In houston.
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  Speaker 6: Somewhere SO i think That, Mike mike has done everything
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  Speaker 6: he can to do provide value for this, franchise and
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  Speaker 6: he's in the unenviable spot where this this conversation is
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  Speaker 6: going to keep coming up and he'll just have to
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  Speaker 6: keep folloing him. Off, yeah are You i'm personally surprised
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  Speaker 6: how much he's played center.
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  Speaker 1: FIELD i think he's. Great, uh you, know they really
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  Speaker 1: made no attempt to pace. HIM i don't have the
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  Speaker 1: numbers in front of, me but he's only played a
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  Speaker 1: handful of games at D. H are you surprised by
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  Speaker 1: how much he's playing? Defense and can you tell how
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  Speaker 1: much that is uh fring him up mentally in his at.
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  Speaker 1: Bats i'm not.
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  Speaker 6: SURPRISED i think this is what he, wants AND i
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  Speaker 6: think it appears as if he's kind of calling. It
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  Speaker 6: DO i have a problem with players dictating. THAT i
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  Speaker 6: don't know is the. ANSWER i think it's a little.
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  Speaker 6: STRANGE i certainly don't think. Now playing For, sochi for,
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  Speaker 6: EXAMPLE i was a young. PLAYER i wasn't treated exactly
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  Speaker 6: the same as the veteran, players you no doubt noticed
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  Speaker 6: that there was a little bit, different but you know
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  Speaker 6: he was fair with. EVERYONE i Just Bobby bray for,
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  Speaker 6: Example probably the discussions were different managing a guy that
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  Speaker 6: was either late thirties or maybe, beyond but still capable
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  Speaker 6: as far as how available he was to be out
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  Speaker 6: there every day With, MIKE i, mean nothing is said
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  Speaker 6: that he shouldn't be playing center field every day other
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  Speaker 6: than the. Past but just looking at this year and
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  Speaker 6: this year, ALONE i, mean there's nothing physically that's holding him.
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  Speaker 1: And welcome back To Halo territory With MIKE. D givanna
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  Speaker 1: And Mark. Trumbo, well it was a dramatic Game monday
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  Speaker 1: night where The angels went from being no hit three
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  Speaker 1: eight innings to a walk off win On Zach netto's
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  Speaker 1: two run, homer but they followed that with a fourteen
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  Speaker 1: to six Loss tuesday. Night they hit three homers in
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  Speaker 1: the first two innings built a five to three Lead wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: night but they couldn't hold. It Ryan Zephyr john hit
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  Speaker 1: two batters in the, seventh leading to a. Run Herbie,
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  Speaker 1: yates in his first save opportunity with The, angels gave
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  Speaker 1: up a game tying homer To jeff McNeil to open the.
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  Speaker 1: Ninth then Josh lowe struck out after attempting to bunt
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  Speaker 1: the automatic runner to third in the tenth and The
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  Speaker 1: angels failed to. Score, now that wasn't the only offensive
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  Speaker 1: transgression for The. Angels they also failed to cash in
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  Speaker 1: on leadoff doubles in the third and fourth, innings With
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  Speaker 1: Oswald peroze getting picked off third and the. Fourth that
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  Speaker 1: was a no, no and they had only one hit
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  Speaker 1: from the fifth inning. On But, mark that josh lo
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  Speaker 1: strikeout in the tenth really, stung didn't.
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  Speaker 6: It, Yes, yes forced a? Bunt was it all three?
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  Speaker 6: Strikes all three?
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  Speaker 1: Strikes fouled off the first two and didn't really come
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  Speaker 1: close to hitting the third. One that's a that's a
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  Speaker 1: big disconnect because this and this is not an attack
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  Speaker 1: on the person at.
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  Speaker 6: All but josh low is a player this. Year, now
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  Speaker 6: he homered earlier in the. GAME i don't understand why
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  Speaker 6: you would ask a guy to lay down a bunt
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  Speaker 6: with two strikes and had already launched a home, run
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  Speaker 6: and it's getting like every day playing, time not like.
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  Speaker 6: It he is getting virtually playing every day out, there
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  Speaker 6: and a little bit of a platoon against. Lefties but
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  Speaker 6: when you're asking a guy to bunt with two, strikes
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  Speaker 6: that the only thing that signals is there's no faith
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  Speaker 6: in the. Stick and that's something you see you would
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  Speaker 6: have seen out of pitchers in The National, league and
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  Speaker 6: that that the situation really is just trying to get
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  Speaker 6: the guy over ground ball or.
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  Speaker 7: Something is? That is that not in the? Cards?
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  Speaker 1: YES i found, it especially a left handed hitter who,
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  Speaker 1: is as we've, seen quite a depth at rolling balls
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  Speaker 1: over in that's into the second base spot at the
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  Speaker 1: very least on the on the third, attempt you, know
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  Speaker 1: give him a chance to hit a ground on the right.
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  Speaker 1: SIDE i didn't understand that at. All you, know whether
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  Speaker 1: he hit a homer in the in the second inning or,
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  Speaker 1: not you got a left handed hit or just make,
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  Speaker 1: contact you got a better chance of getting the guy,
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  Speaker 1: over don't, you?
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  Speaker 6: Man you do it seems like a. Layup, also the
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  Speaker 6: bund attempts were very. Stabby it looks like something that's
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  Speaker 6: not practiced very. Often if it, is he's not a
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  Speaker 6: guy that's very good at, IT i WOULDN'T i wouldn't
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  Speaker 6: call on him to bunt that that.
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  Speaker 7: Did that didn't look the. Part.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well Manager kurtzuzuki said he went With yates in
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  Speaker 1: the ninth inning because, quote we liked way he was
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  Speaker 1: throwing the ball unquote in his last two outings end.
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  Speaker 1: Quote we got him to be our. Closer, Right i'm
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  Speaker 1: so sure about. That, Anyway yates got ahead of McNeil
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  Speaker 1: with a one on two, count but sweeper cut too
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  Speaker 1: much of the. Plate McNeil poked it over the short
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  Speaker 1: wall and right field for his only a second home
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  Speaker 1: or the season that tied the. Score here's What yates
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  Speaker 1: had to say after the. GAME i guess you probably
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  Speaker 1: just want to marry that. One we'll get down down
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  Speaker 1: a lot.
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  Speaker 2: More.
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  Speaker 9: YEAH i just felt like IF i threw a good,
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  Speaker 9: one either if it was back door in the, DIRT
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  Speaker 9: i you, KNOW i was really trying to slow him,
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  Speaker 9: down and you KNOW i didn't throw a good. One
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  Speaker 9: he stayed on it and it kind of was right
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  Speaker 9: in his swing, path and you, know it.
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  Speaker 1: Sucks do you feel like you're back now to the
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  Speaker 1: made up for the time he.
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  Speaker 2: Lost from the.
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  Speaker 9: Injury, yeah you, KNOW i THINK i got pretty good
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  Speaker 9: command of the breaking.
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  Speaker 7: BALL i think split's being pretty.
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  Speaker 9: Consistent you, know there's some things THAT i have to
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  Speaker 9: do a little bit, differently and just pitching and What
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  Speaker 9: i'm seeing and trying to set hitters. UP i Think
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  Speaker 9: i'm catching up pretty. QUICK i like Where i'm. At
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  Speaker 9: i'm getting swinging. Missus you, Know i'm still striking guys,
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  Speaker 9: Out SO i mean, OVERALL i Think i'm throwing the
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  Speaker 9: ball pretty well here the last three, times and you,
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  Speaker 9: know tonight's a little step, backwards but you, KNOW i
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  Speaker 9: REALLY i do like Where i'm.
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  Speaker 1: At mark your. THOUGHTS i Like.
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  Speaker 6: KIRBY i think he's had an outstanding. CAREER i don't
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  Speaker 6: think it's very fair to have him reasonably try and
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  Speaker 6: be the closer out of. NOWHERE i, Mean Zephyr john
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  Speaker 6: had been doing a decent job in that, role and
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  Speaker 6: you take him out of. It see he's, struggled and
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  Speaker 6: then you know that was not a bad pitch that
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  Speaker 6: was hit. Out but WHEN i look At kirby's, CAREER
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  Speaker 6: i mean what he's talking about, HERE i think and
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  Speaker 6: what he didn't say has almost certainly the fastball velocity
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  Speaker 6: has to be part of.
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  Speaker 7: THAT i mean he's.
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  Speaker 6: Throwing he's averaging ninety point one on his. Fastball last
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  Speaker 6: year in twenty twenty, five he was at ninety two point.
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  Speaker 6: Eight he had three saves for The. Dodgers the era
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  Speaker 6: was unsightedly over a. Five and you look at his you,
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  Speaker 6: know twenty twenty four was An All star year for,
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  Speaker 6: him outstanding his pitch. Grades his Four steamer graded out
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  Speaker 6: was a massive plus fifteen On Baseball Savant, elite, elite
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  Speaker 6: and his split was plus. Eight twenty nineteen he made
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  Speaker 6: The All star. Team plus eight on the Four, steamer
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  Speaker 6: plus fourteen on the. Split so those are his, pitches
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  Speaker 6: but you know. Massively now he's talking about a. Slider
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  Speaker 6: it's labeled as a. Sweeper this year in twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 6: four he threw six total in His All star.
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  Speaker 7: Year that's.
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  Speaker 2: It.
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  Speaker 6: Six so now it's it's somewhat of a big thing
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  Speaker 6: in his, repertoire and it may be. NECESSARY i don't really.
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  Speaker 6: KNOW i hope that he is able to get it.
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  Speaker 6: Together he is striking guys. Out he's right about. This
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  Speaker 6: seven strikeouts and four and a. THIRD i think that
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  Speaker 6: you know McNeil talk about his style of. Hitting who
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  Speaker 6: are The angels hits like mcneiling.
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  Speaker 1: Making contact with two, strikes you, know putting the ball in.
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  Speaker 6: Play, yes, Oh Adam frazier, correct you are right. There,
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  Speaker 6: Yes but it's refreshing to. SEE i, mean it was
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  Speaker 6: tough as An angel fan to watch him do. That
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  Speaker 6: but the guy is, fighting he's falling off everything close
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  Speaker 6: and he came through and got a pitch he could.
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  Speaker 7: Handle it wasn't a bad pitch at.
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  Speaker 6: All left handed hitter down and end maybe a little,
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: bit BUT i thought That kirby looked pretty. Good and
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: if he's going to, close you, KNOW i hope he does.
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: Well it's just a little bit hard to. Operate what's
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: really going on is his chase contact has gone up
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: quite a.
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: BIT a lot of guys.
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: Are putting a lot more bad on the ball when
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: it is a little bit out of the strike. ZONE
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: i think in the past those are, whiffs and now
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: sometimes they're getting wood on, it and it's probably because
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: the fastball is not playing firm enough to set up
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: the off. Speed SO i think he's another guy we
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: touched on it a couple of.
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: Shows ago needs a few more.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Mphs angels also made another roster move Involving Ryan johnson
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: before yesterday's, game sending a right hander down to DOUBLE,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: a this time to be a. Starter here's what Manager
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Kurt SUZUKI i have to say about that.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: MOVE i think going.
• 17:16
  Speaker 9: Down and try to sign, AGAIN i try to.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: Build back to strength and how You, yeah for, SURE
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: i think that was the, message you, know going on
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: there and getting to a routine and get.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: That you know he's, in you know obviously the hemp
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: stringing and.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Get a bellowing, back so get his strength. Back and
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: LIKE i, said we wanted to get, down stretched out and,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: started and you see what he.
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: Does, yeah so he's starting with DOUBLE.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: A yeah, Yeah, Mark so you're shaking your head before
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: we even went to that. Clip what what the heck
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: are The angels doing for this?
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Kid no?
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: CLUE i, mean this is a guy who signed twenty
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: twenty four. Draft he signed for overslought one. Point this
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: is all they got For, Show, hey O, tani this
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: is the compensation. Pick so that in and of itself
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: is kind of. Important you didn't Trade, show, hey you
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: didn't get anything in? Return he walked right across. Town
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: and then he comes in recently and beats beats you.
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: Up But Ryan johnson is a. Player what is going?
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: On where is the? Plan i'm. Tired no more plan
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: talks with this. Team there is no. Plan this kid
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: deserves better than. This it's broke with the team last,
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: year struggled a little, bit and then he's, pitching and
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: yes he was able to dominate rookie ball hitters Tri
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: cities or at whatever level that. Is, yeah, hy, okay all,
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: right things have changed a lot since SINCE i. Played, Okay,
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: hi that's a little bit better than. Okay but now
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: now he breaks with the team again this year out of.
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: Camp now he's back in DOUBLE. A to, me WHEN
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: i first saw him AND i read the scouting, REPORTS
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: i went back to look to verify that's a relief pitcher's.
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: Motion everything about that screams seventh day innning.
• 19:03
  Speaker 9: Guy to.
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: Me, now he started in. College i'm not sure the
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: competition was Elite Dallas. BAPTIST i think a little bit
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: late in that knowledge, regard BUT i would assume maybe
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: a little. Bit but his, stuff he pounds the strike
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: zone and he can get away with being a two
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: pitch pitcher as a. Reliever as a, starter he's going
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: to need another third, pitch AND i don't know if
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: that's led to some of the. Troubles i'm not. SURE
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: i get stronger was WHAT i heard, there and get
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: stretched out a little. BIT i don't, know, MAN i
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: think this guy is a relief. PITCHER i think he
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: could be a very good. One i'm Not if they
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: have a plan and it, works Then i'll Ecro BUT
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: i feel bad for this.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: Guy.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Man, YEAH i don't know what the plan. IS i
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: just feel, like just make a plan with this, kid you.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: KNOW i feel like if he's going to be a,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: starter he should be treated the Way bremner and some
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: of these other starters. Are you, know develop them in
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the minor. Leagues there's no need to rush into the
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: big leagues right. Now you got the worst record in.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: BASEBALL i don't see that getting much. Better, SO i,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: mean for most of the Time i've covered, baseball when
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: you draft kids like, this it's you want to keep
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: them starting until they show they can't start. ANYMORE i
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: don't think The angels have exhausted all avenues with this
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: kid as a. Starter maybe they can Maybe ryan can
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: develop a third pitch and be a good. Starter maybe
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: he has the you, know the the the physicality to do,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: it you, know the maybe he needs even a fourth.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: PITCH i don't, know but if he's a, reliever you,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: know you have to at least exhaust you, know him
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: being a, starter and then you move him to the
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: bullpen and then, YEAH i think he does have the
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: stuff to be a good, reliever but just you, know
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: give him a chance to try to be a starter
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: at least have a, plan stick to it for more
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: than two months and see what this kid.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Does all.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Right the other big story this, week if you've heard
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: on television or radio or been out to the, stadium
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: these sell the team chance and a lot more vulgar
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: chants Involving Lady marino got a lot louder this. WEEK i,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: know some of these, kids what is this new craze
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: to tarp? Off they're taking their shirts off and wave
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: them out in the. Outfield but not only are they
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: doing that in left Field tuesday night and right Field wednesday,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Night AND i was out there both. Nights you could
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: hear those sell the team chants pretty. Loudly AND i
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: tweeted about. It On tuesday, night WHERE i said the
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: quote affordability Of Angel stadium does not seem to be
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: APPEASING a vocal contingent of fans in left field who
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: continue to chance sell the team and already. Sucks it
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: seems many have reached a breaking point when this losing
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: franchise And Arty, Marino, mark do you feel like you
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: know this is maybe a little bit of a turning
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: point for some of These angels. Fans did you keep
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: your shirt, On, mark in the interest of not scaring away?
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Fans you know they need all the fans they get out.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: THERE i did keep my shirt, on but thanks for.
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: Asking you are a.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: PROFESSIONAL i was wondering IF i, mean maybe caught up
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: in the moment you wanted to be a part of the.
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: CREW i.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: DON'T i seem like they've had an extra security. YESTERDAY
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: i don't know if that was accurate.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Or it wouldn't surprise.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: ME i.
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: Don't i'm sure that it's not what anyone that works
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: for the, club owns the club wants to. See but
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: isn't a turning? POINT i. DON'T i don't know what.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: Would it seems like it is noticed and that you,
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: know if any publicity is good. Publicity this is not good.
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: PUBLICITY i don't know exactly how many are going to show.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Up what is It?
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: Saturday for the Planned.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Yes friday Is Friday night is a supposed. BLACKOUT i
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: heard they're supposed to wear black, shirts maybe sitting out
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: in the, outfield And saturday a protest. Plan we're going
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: to try to cover. That but not surprising that tweek
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: got quite a bit of a. Response so we'll give
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: you just a little taste of some of the fan.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Reaction Scott. Freeman it will be effective if it stays
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: consistent a few, games even a few. Weeks if it blows,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: over then it's. Useless if it's a nightly thing for
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the whole, season he'll. Collapse so how do we make this?
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Happen good, Question. Scott here's to be a doctor. Too oh,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: yeah someone called a narrow, gate awful, management, recycle cast,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: offs fraudulent name, change blown draft, picks gaslighting your fan,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: base coaching, carousel and that's just the big. Club the
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: humiliation ritual will continue as long as he already owns.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: It here's one from the. COACH i have been there
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: for a while. Now it has been three, years SINCE
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: i have renewed season tickets that have been in family
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: for over thirty. Years first game was in nineteen sixty.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: SEVEN i love The, angels but this organization is, broken
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: and it has been since twenty. Fourteen makes me. Sad
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and the last one will run is From will and
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: for every one of, them and he's referring to the,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: fans there's thousands of us who checked out and stopped
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: caring years. Ago that last one's pretty, interesting you, know we.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Don't they announced the attendance figures every night out, there
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and it's you, know twenty, two twenty, three twenty four. Thousand
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: that's paid, attendants and you know that involves your season ticket,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: sales which you know contribute to those numbers every. NIGHT
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: i would be surprised if there was more than fifteen
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: thousand fans out there every. Night, mark do you get
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: any sense for how many fans are just staying away
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: from the? Park is that something you can send some social?
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Media at all the people you talk to around, town
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: it does seem like there's a lot of sort of
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: silent protests going on with these.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: FANS i can only speak for myself and the circle
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: of FRIENDS i. HAVE i can't remember anybody really talking
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: about going to the ball game so. Far, Wow really
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: That i'm not, Joking and maybe MAYBE i don't have
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: the biggest circle of, friends but you, KNOW i do know,
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: people AND i JUST i don't think anybody wants to talk, About,
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: hey it was at That angels lost last. Night it's
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: just there's nothing to really boast about if you are
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: a fan of the. Team the DISCUSS i, mean what
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: can you really even say if people want to get
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: into a discussion discussion that's remotely positive if that, is
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: there are a lot of people that don't want to
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: hear anything negative about their favorite sports, team and it's
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: going to be an incredibly difficult, time especially people that
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: tune in every night hoping to see the best and
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: they get these almost.
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: WINS i guess. THAT i, MEAN i was.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: Joking you, know it's kind of a new, cat but
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: there's going to be not a lot of actual, wins
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: so you got to have something that hey it was
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: an Almost and it stinks to say, that but.
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: They just are what WOULD i? Do people keep asking
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: what would we? Do what would you?
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: Do who knows where to? Start i've said a couple
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: of TIMES i would probably target the draft, first but
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: really it starts with the. Hustle jorge ended the game
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: on you, know he had it PROBABLY i don't know
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: what the ex flocity, was but he had a. Job
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: that was the end of the. Game what's with the, job,
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: man what's with that? Job this is the last out
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: of the. Game, yes you're, Out you're probably almost certainly
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: going to be, out But i'll just keep. Beating this
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: is the only THING i really will not get off
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: of is put the effort. IN i don't know if
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: there's any penalty for not putting the effort, in AND
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: i think that that as a, manager that is something
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: you can easily. Do Ron washington didn't put up with.
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: It you. Know he had a lot of rules and
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: it was, strict and maybe some of the classroom learning
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: stuff that he put the guys through daily wasn't everyone's
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: cup of. Tea but he had the, team he had
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: a better, record you.
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: Know and now he's with The giants and they have
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: their own. Issues so.
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: This is something that you're going to. Need pitching and,
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: DEFENSE i think is what this club. Needs the home
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: runs well on first pitch of the vat that's, great.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Man, yeah here's another reaction from A Darren. Snyder i'm
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: a die hard, fan BUT i refuse to watch another
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: game until ore he sales a. Team he has to
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: be the worst owner in all sports. Franchises i've been
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: following The padres The padres for the last year and a.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: HALF i do follow The angels ON x that's the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: extent of. It and here's one from Fun Lisa. Wine,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: oh wildlife and vermin in the stands as a turnoff. Too,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: man did you see that video of the what was
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: it a a? Possum was it a raccoon OR i
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: don't even know what it? Was it looked, scary you
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: know what it?
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Was you know?
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: What it? Was?
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: Awesome it was yeah credits as you ever. Read you,
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: KNOW i think in other parts of the country it's
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: pretty normal to grab the. Tail for us, here probably
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: a little, uh you, know we don't have the you,
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: know the grit to do, it but you just man
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: and put it in a. Box AND i don't know
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: where where it was, relocated but hopefully not within the.
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: Ballpark you wonder how many others are are living. There
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: it is, fun just not fun for those who have
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: to explain why they got.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: RODENTS i tell, you If i'm in a fox, HOLE
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: i want to be with that guy who picked that
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: thing up by the. TAIL i don't know The nats, TOO.
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: I worry ABOUT i, mean they're they're having to spray. Pesticides,
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: yeah And i'd probably be wearing a respirator mask. Myself
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: but the catcher umpire and stuff OR i, mean that's
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: that's wafting right around. There maybe not a concern at.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: All i'm not an, expert but you kind of hope
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: that you wouldn't have to spray for gnats multiple. TIMES
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: a game in Game Hard hard.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: To watch makes me think an exhibition game with the
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Old savannah San. Gnats who Did Mark trumble play for
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the Sand? Gnats, Yes, BANAS i was In savannah ten years.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: AGO i went to A savannah Sand nats game that
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: was before The Savannah bananas were in. Existence an ACTUAL
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: i think it was A Sally league Team CLASS a
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Down Savannah Great Old. Stadium hopefully there's still in. Existence another,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: RESPONSE i wish the Sam wellies would buy this. Team
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the Sam, wellies of course owners of The Anaheim, ducks
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: AND i heard when already put this team up for
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: sale in twenty twenty two that the Sam welly's were
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: not that. INTERESTED i, remember for some reason at the
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: time thinking maybe they don't have the resources to go
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: after a baseball. Team BUT i looked it up yesterday
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and they're actually have a net worth of forty billion.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Dollars so if they did want to jump in and
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: create some what's you, know just some, symmetry some connection
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: with what the development they're doing on the other fifty
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: seven for, you away with what's going on on the
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: west side of the fifty seven for, you which is not,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: good that could be hopefully attractive and to. Them have
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: you heard much about the Sam welli's mark and do
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: you think they'd be pretty good stewards of This angels franchise.
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: Based on What i've. Seen i'm not an avid hockey,
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: fan but The ducks very nice. SEASON i know their
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: general manager was up For General manager of The. YEAR
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: i don't know if that's been finalized.
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: YET i was.
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: WONDERING i asked you maybe two teams could have, that
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: although The ANGELS gm is probably up for the opposite of, that.
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: You, KNOW i don't know they're. Doing The ducks.
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: Are an example OF i guess when you invest in
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: the team and the city Of. Anaheim it's a good
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: story and it's really getting. Lopsided you, know they're building
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: the fancy and energized celebrities at the. Game not too
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: many celebrities are coming to The angels ball, games if
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: any at. All and you know this is an area
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: where they do. Live you know, people big name people,
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: do but they, ALL i guess want to make the
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: drive either north or.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: South to where the winning teams. Play and we'll close
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: a show with this From Chad. Smithers the more the
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: fans keep this up and it's heard clearly on the,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: broadcast media starts to talk slash report on, it it
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: will get To. Artie he is thin skinned and he
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: can't stop the. Wave once it. Starts all The angels
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: media has to stay on.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: It.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: NOW i can't speak for all the Other angels, media
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: but we're gonna stay on. It we're gonna try to
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: capture and reflect the voice of the fans and that
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: is clearly one of frustration right. Now and that's going
• 31:40
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• 31:44
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