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S4 50. S. Conroy – Transformation Overcoming Devastation · Millennial Mustard Seed

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They saw the fortify their cities now, God looks down, and
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there's violence everywhere. The battle this war that we are
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principalities in these rulers in, these are cons in high
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places. It's really worthwhile to read
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control because we have to take every thought captive and
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resist. Fear.
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You're going to have a testimony that is a Justice case against
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the kingdom of darkness. Welcome back to the millennial
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you guys. Pastor, Sean Conroy is here he
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Let's go. Hey, how are you to Sean
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O'Connell from the follicle cells podcast and I'm here on
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millennial Mustard Seed. He's a verification.
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That's a good old intro, Sean. It's good to have you here with
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me, man. Thank It's good to be here.
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I'll tell you what, man? Wife has been crazy.
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So, trying to get the word out and be with the another brother
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in Christ, man, this just makes that makes my day.
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There's something about when we dwell together in unity and
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other people being aware of who's who, where we're at.
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And what's going on? I think is so important.
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Just kind of walk us into your upbringing what brought you to
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Christ and to everything that you're doing today.
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Sure. So I was born and raised.
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Boston, Massachusetts, born and raised Roman Catholic, which we
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could talk about for a whole episode by itself, but nothing
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against them. It's just, I don't, you know,
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we're gonna have disagreements across the board as correct as
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Christians but some mom. So that was my early life, my
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grandmother was always a huge spiritual part of my life as a
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kid. She's the one that took me to
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church. She's the one that taught me
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about Christ. She's the one talking about the
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Lord and so I did that for years.
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Ears. And then when I was 16, my
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mother got sick. She got cancer, and she passed
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away, and when you believe and there's nobody here on Earth to
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get mad at, who you get mad at. And for me, I took that out on
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God and I spent 20 years on my own, trying to figure it out,
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trying to find a better way, trying to flick.
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Why would God do this to me? So I just spent years being
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angry with the Lord. And man that's tough.
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I'll tell you what. Like that is no way to live,
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but, you know, God is good. And by his grace we are, we he
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never gives up on us. He never leaves us like when I
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look back, now I can see a thousand times that God stepped
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in on my wife and was like, nope, even though I was mad at
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him, wasn't talking to him, he still didn't let me get in the
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trouble, I deserved, but back in 2013, me and the mother of my
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kids had broken up. We went our separate ways after
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15 years and I literally went to a six-month drunken coma.
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I guess is the best way I can put it.
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I would wake up and drink. I would drink all day at work.
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I would drink all night. Till I fell asleep and I just, I
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shut down from the world and I didn't know what to do with
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myself. And I went out for my birthday
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into April 2014 and it was my actual birthday and my
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rebirthday. So in kind of they coincide but
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I was I was so messed up, I couldn't spell the word car
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went. Alone drive one and I'm flying
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down for 20 to do like 120 miles an hour.
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Steering with my knee. I like a cigarette in my cell.
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Phone on one hand, i'm talking I had a beer can in the console.
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I had a bottle of whiskey in my other hand you know just out of
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control. And when I got down past Oaks on
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the 422, I was heading east the westbound way like I know like
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those a spends just passed Ford Just past the Oaks exit.
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I looked into the left foot in the left lane and which I'm sure
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none of that is going to make any sense to some of your
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wisdom, as they have no idea what I'm talking about.
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Anyway, it's a high area for police.
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Usually, they're, so it's by the grace of God.
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I even made it that far as intoxicated as I was.
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And, but I look over in the westbound Lane heading back
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towards where I lived, and there's two cars, it's like 2:30
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in the morning. I was trying to go to the casino
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because I know the casino serve drinks.
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True. They start till like 5:00 in the
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morning. Now that I need another drink
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but that's what I wanted. And so these two cars were
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pulled over hazard lights on. I could see the front car their
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bottom, but they're back bumper was down and the front, the back
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car, their front bumper was down, I can see there were kids
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in the car and I could see moms of people upset.
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So it was April is around like spring break, time for school
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and I'm thinking two families. I went to Disneyland had a great
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week, came home a little, jet-lagged had a little fender
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bender or 2:30 in the morning. Coming home from the airport
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either I can't verify that. That's my gas as For what had
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happened. But for me, I'm a numbers guy.
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Like I crunch numbers and, you know, when a plane leaves Boston
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at 9 a.m. and the train we've Chicago at 10, a.m. where do
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they meet a? My thinking was, if I had been
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coming the other way, doing the same thing at the same time when
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they had, their little fender bender Ida come through when I
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to hit them all which was a very eye-opening experience in the
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moment, you know, because I'm immediately thinking, man, I
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could have killed all. These people.
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And so I pulled over just before the Audobon exit about half a
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mile up the road. And I threw the bottle out the
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window, I threw the cigarette out, the window, through the
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beer, can out the window. I probably threw the phone out
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the window to see through it all out moment.
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But and I just started to cry. I just started to weep and I I
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just said, God, I can't do this anymore.
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I'm done. I know I had before this, I had
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I had checked out and other religions I had gone to a
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mosque. So it's that was what I was
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checking in. Islam was checking a Judaism.
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I was checking into Buddhist, I don't know if you know this but
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there is a religion dedicated to the dude from Big Lebowski
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there's a whole religion related to dudeism but that's what they
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call it. I looked into that and nothing
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really seemed to catch my attention but I whoa.
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Yeah. Like I looked into water.
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I spent months trying to figure some stuff out and I didn't want
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to turn back to God. I was still very angry with them
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and I was like, there's no way there's no way there's got to be
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another answer and in that moment when I, you know, in a
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drunken rage and stupor and seeing that, and I said, I just
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the first First words out of my mouth reward.
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I can't do this anymore, God, take it.
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I can't. I cannot do this anymore and
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That's out there for a couple hours.
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I'm sure. Just crying and so the sun came
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up and I got now I drove home. And at that point I was like,
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okay, this is I got to do something different two weeks
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later, my brother got married. I was his best, man.
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A pastor friend of mine that I've known for years and
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actually I was extremely rude to him.
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I was his Salah Tarsus. You know, I persecuted him for
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being a Christian because I was angry with God.
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And he He officiated the wedding and he kept bugging me for like
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two days, you know, the rehearsal in the wedding.
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He's like man, you alright. And I'm like yeah I'm good.
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Everything's fine again. I was, I was drinking at the
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wedding and was really messed up and all night had been puppy was
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like this this prick in the back of my neck.
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Like something's poking me in the back of the neck saying why
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are you lying. We'll just tell this man what's
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goings, your friend, tell him what's going on and I wouldn't
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but then I got home that night. And I texted my buddy and was
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just like, no no I'm lying, I'm full of it.
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Nothing's right, nothing's good. Everything's just kind of going
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crazy. And so don't like 30 seconds, he
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messaged me back and says, listen come meet with me
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tonight. Are you no waiter tonight and my
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office, you know, where it is around 6:00, we'll meet, we'll
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talk. And we'll see where things are
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going and I did I, when I met with them and we did some some,
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some prayer and just talk And I was able to unload a lot of
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things that have been bothering me and so at that point, you
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know, I was crying and a baby most of the meeting and then the
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end of the conversation, like it is, we're getting ready to like,
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you know, call it a night. And then we're both going to
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head home. So it's getting kind of late.
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I decided to to ask Christ into my heart right there in the
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moment, had a whole prayer with the Lord and vitamin just it was
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you got to take over? I just, I have no control, I
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have no idea what's going on, and I'm just a mess.
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And so that point I started I met with him for a few more
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weeks in his office. And then after like, six
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meetings, I decided to start attending service at Birds
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Borough Church of the Nazarene that's where he was pastoring at
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the time and Got there. You know, started started
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healing and started being filled.
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And really just getting, you know, the information and the
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parts of the white, my life that I hadn't been receiving, and it
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was pretty amazing. And at that point, I had to
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realize that I had to answer a call in that, I have been
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receiving since I was a little kid since about 6 or 7 years
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old, and it was a calling to Pastor the preach and I couldn't
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ignore it anymore, it was just too much, it was too heavy on
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me. It was in my heart and on my
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mind at all times. And so I just gave in and I
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started the process and it's a whole process.
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I mean every church has their process and they were issues and
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bumps. Along the way there was, you
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know, issues of financial aid for schooling and stuff.
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And a lot of stuff that, you know, kept me from.
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But the thing is, I knew that God had me going in the
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direction he wanted me. So I wasn't going to let me, let
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me. Down at that point.
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So just kept moving forward. I kept plugging for and wherever
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I couldn't get done in the moment like some of the stuff
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with the government and financial aid and stuff.
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I had to push past, I had to keep going and then there was a
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other programs that came along that was able to help out and
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stuff. So you know, I'm still going
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along doing doing my process to get ordained.
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They still have a couple years more classes to do, but I know
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I'm definitely heading in the right direction now and going
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where it where God is leading me.
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That's pretty amazing feeling to know that no matter what you've
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done, no matter where you've been what you've come from.
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Even when you don't want God to be in your situation, I don't
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want to be part of your life, you don't want him to have
13:48
anything to do with them, he literally will stand there and
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just wait and just be like, I've been here the whole time but
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whatever I can do to help you out, that's what I'm here for.
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And that's just an amazing feeling that, you know, even in
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the bad times, you've always got Christ in a right there with
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you. Yeah.
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That's that's such a powerful testimony.
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I mean Just listening to everything that you went
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through, you know, like you lose your mother when you're young,
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you spend 20 years in the world just chasing everything that was
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not meant for you and and how enter your grandmother had like
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kind of like prophesied like she used her her terms from, you
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know, the Catholic background above what she thought you were
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going to be. But and, you know, sometimes
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people around us, they're going to pick up on the fact that
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there's an anointing on her life even Even though it can look
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really rough and ugly on the outside and then, you know, you
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go through this. Like, I mean you're single dad,
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like you're taking care of your kids.
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Yeah, if you are literally at this place we're in your
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testimony or winding down to the end of your way of doing things.
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And starting to understand the calling and where you are today.
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I mean it's just fascinating because there's so many people I
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talk to off air or even on air and it's just like that story
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shows. Different details, different
15:18
places different names and different extreme aspects but
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there's something to it. When the men and women who are
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being called by the Living, God start to wake up and understand
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the truth is definitely Stranger Than Fiction.
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There's something more going on here.
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I can't keep living the way that I have been living, and it's
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edifying to hear that because there's there's a listener.
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Out there, I just know it. I know there's somebody out
15:49
there who's going to be able to relate to your story.
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So, showing I want to ask you with the prodigal sons podcast.
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Now you guys are local to me. I actually moved out of the
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neighborhood like two months ago, currently residing at an
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undisclosed location. Still in the Southeastern
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Pennsylvania area taking that line from l.a.
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Marzulli. I want to ask you about the
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show. You got a couple host you guys.
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Come together. You just kind of rough it and
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just raw material content. Just expressing what you guys
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are going through and rustling through all these ideas Brothers
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together in unity. Tell us tell us about the show.
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Tell us about your show so I have prodigal sons.
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Yeah, we've been at it, we started actually during the
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pandemic March 20 2008 right at the beginning of the pandemic,
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right? As everything's the everything's
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hitting the fan so to say God just put it on me like to do.
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Like a radio show or something. And I went to another gentleman
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in the church and brought the idea to him like, Hey would you
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do this with me? And he was on board and I had a
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there was a radio station down in Conshohocken that a couple
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Pastor friends of mine ran and we're going to jump in with
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them. We're going to get a slot time
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slot on there you know on their at their state and their studio
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and when I called to get air time, you know they were like
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hey with some we apologize but we're closing the studio like
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the rent. Got ridiculous and not willing
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to work with us. They just don't want us here and
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things are not going to you know we're shutting everything down.
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We're actually going to move on from this and it's kind of like
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it was kind of a gut punch and So, I went back and talk to my
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pastor and we prayed with over it and I said, you know, pastor
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Pastor Peter Clark, I said Pete, you know, we really need to, I
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need to do something, I need to find a way to do this.
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So I can, you know, you know, anybody in the Nazarene Church.
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It does something like this and he goes, I don't know anybody,
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he goes but We have room there was four rooms in the basement
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of our church that were kind of not used very much, nice clean
18:02
spaces but just unused, you know, a lot of churches have
18:05
these unused rooms sometimes we had so like four rooms and so he
18:08
said you're more than welcome because the church will help
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purchase equipment and you know, whatever you need, let's get it
18:13
going. Like I really think this will
18:14
help especially with this pandemics going on you know you
18:18
get the word out but you don't have to, you know, people have
18:21
to come and that you can get just get it out and people can
18:23
hear this information. So, We announced it at a Sunday
18:27
service that we were going to look into doing this.
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And if anybody wanted to help help us build the studio paint,
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stuff like that. And that afternoon, I got a text
18:35
from Dave Duncan who's on the show with me.
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He text and say he was I was a lot of podcast.
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I'm really like I'd like to be able to help with this if I can
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like you know, even it's just like a producer or behind the
18:48
scene stuff and sounds like yeah, man, we're meeting
18:51
Wednesday night. Come on down and then I spoke to
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Pastor Tom Vera. And I asked him because I felt
18:57
like God was calling him into the situation and we had another
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Gentleman on the show. That started with me John, I
19:03
immediately went to the idea with and so we said we got
19:07
started and we started doing the show and things were the first
19:12
that we met. My son was with me.
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Was me Dave, this other gentleman, Tom me, and my son
19:20
and Pastor Pete, and my son or setting up a cell phone and like
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we have, we really had some bad equipment when we first, we
19:30
didn't have a whole lot. We had no mixing board from the
19:33
church. That was kind of beat up and we
19:36
just got an audio interface like an audio input for four mics and
19:39
that plugged into an old cellphone that somebody had, and
19:42
that's what we use. We use an old cellphone and we
19:44
just went on Facebook live, and then we downloaded that
19:47
recording to like my laptop. And then we put that out on
19:49
anchor to the podcast platforms. But so, we did that.
19:54
And then we brought another Elijah Griffin.
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Who's on the show still who's with us?
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Now, he's our fourth and you know, we just came up with this
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idea in the beginning that it was going to be prodigal sons.
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We were all from different backgrounds and we'd all kind of
20:06
had that product a wife like me where I was 20 years away from
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the Lord. And then he brought me back in
20:12
and all the other for the other three gentlemen also have those
20:15
kind of similar backstories. So when we prodigal sons and and
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our motto is Real Real Men, Real Faith, real talk and you know,
20:24
so we who are who we are. If you met me on the street, I'm
20:26
the same guy on the show that I am on the street.
20:28
So these guys, we just, we share our faith and we just want, you
20:32
know, we're kind of, you know, if you watch the podcast it's
20:35
like a mix of Impractical Jokers and a couple of pastors.
20:40
We really, just tell all the jokes and we pick on each other.
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We're brothers. So we, you know, we pick on each
20:45
other and if anybody does anything during the week that we
20:48
find to be funny, you know, somebody does something.
20:50
So, you know, something, ridiculous, or we bring it up,
20:54
we talk about it. We don't hold it.
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Act like, you know, we just we just bring it up.
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I've had issues where, you know, unfortunately driving is a big
21:03
pet peeve of mine. I tend to get a little bit of
21:05
road rage. I get a little aggravated with
21:07
bad drivers and so like I yell, I know they can't hear me but I
21:10
yell anyway. And that comes up a lot on the
21:12
show and you know, because I tell them we tell each other
21:16
everything so they know. So they always bring it out
21:18
with, you know, we just, it's really a really good
21:20
accountability group for me, and for the into the other guys, as
21:23
well. Keep keep ourselves in check and
21:27
having that Fellowship to keep us grounded in together and move
21:30
into forward in the same direction.
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We're all called to do the same thing with this with this
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podcast and it's just been amazing.
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Like I said it's been Shu. It's been almost three years
21:40
Marshall, be three years and wrote 122 episodes in.
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And, you know, at one point we're kind of, like, do we do
21:48
this? Like, is there still more
21:49
topics? We can talk about, we've been
21:50
doing this for a long time and then, you know, God's like
21:54
really all the things that I have in the Bible and you guys
21:57
are done run coming up with topics, all the things that
21:59
happen in the world on a daily basis, you guys can't think of a
22:02
good topic to come up with and sure enough.
22:04
But we know we went back to the drawing board and came up with a
22:06
new plan for how we come up. Topics.
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And so they just keep coming. So it keeps providing and it's
22:12
been. It's been an amazing experience.
22:15
Just to be a part of it because we've had people come up.
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I was in Walmart here by in Exeter kind of near where I live
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and I have my prodigal sons t-shirt on with our logo on it.
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And this woman walked up and she's like, oh, I love the
22:29
shirt. Where did you get it?
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And I said, oh well and then she looks at me and I started to
22:33
talk She was awake, you're the guy from the show, her father
22:39
listens to us. He's a pastor in the reading
22:41
area and he listens to us and she recognized me because he
22:44
makes her watch it once in a while that's awesome.
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Yeah, it was kind of neat like, you know, and she kind of went
22:51
into, like, how it, how it affect her father's.
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He was older. She was about my age.
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I'm in my mid-40s early to mid 40s.
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She was about my age. I'm going to say she was in her
23:00
mid to early 30s, honor respect, but she was so her father was An
23:05
older Pastor, who was kind of, I don't believe he was now fully
23:09
at the end of his career. But he was kind of at like, the
23:11
way she was telling me like he was at a point where he was
23:13
like, considering retiring somehow he found us and he was a
23:18
couple of, you know, a couple of us are pastors on the show.
23:22
Dave has reached before, he's not, he's not going forward
23:25
nature, anybody, preaches. He preaches on a fairly
23:27
consistent basis, like once or twice a year, three times a
23:30
year, and he goes to other churches.
23:32
Other pastors in the district, calling him to preach and It was
23:36
this older past, it was kind of like listen to us.
23:39
And by the grace of God, he found a renewed sense of spirit
23:43
in his calling, which to me, was just mind-blowing to this
23:46
gentleman, who's been doing it for years.
23:49
Find something, and us being goofballs, and being ourselves
23:52
and making jokes, and and being biblical.
23:54
At the same time, bringing it, bringing in stories and sharing
23:58
our experiences. But I think that's really what
23:59
it's about. I mean, if we're not sharing our
24:01
experiences and we're not talking about the truth of what
24:04
happens, like, If we just try to make Christianity all sunshine
24:08
and rainbows, I think we're letting a lot of people down,
24:12
absolutely, you know, we're feeling new Christians.
24:15
If we pretend that it's all sunshine and rainbows, and we're
24:18
not human, like pastor does not mean above, there's nowhere in
24:24
the in that title, there's nowhere in that, that means
24:28
above the people. Like, you know, I think
24:31
sometimes, unfortunately, we tend to put pastors on a
24:33
pedestal because Because, you know, they're called to preach
24:37
and they're called to teach and we're called to lead, but that
24:41
doesn't make. Any any difference to God?
24:46
We're still almost always showed me love this.
24:47
Whole the same. And I think sometimes we forget
24:50
that and we think that sometimes pastors are our God like more
24:54
holy for some reason. And that's one of the things
24:57
I've had to learn over the last couple of years and not that
25:00
I've ever let being a pastor, go to my head but trying to keep
25:02
people in check like read the Bible, you're a minister just as
25:07
much as I am, we're all called to Ministry.
25:09
We're all called to minister to those who don't who do No
25:12
Christ. So we're all ministers.
25:15
I've just been asked to speak in front of the congregation.
25:17
That's the only real difference. I understand.
25:20
Yes we do. We do you know we hold to a
25:22
higher respect. You know how higher standard and
25:25
you want in your lead? But we're all, we're all
25:28
ministers, we're all supposed to minister.
25:30
So everybody's job is diminish. There's just a different calling
25:35
and I think we all have a calling but I think some of us
25:37
are called to do something just a little bit different.
25:39
And I think that's a big thing. Remember That We're All in This
25:42
Road Together. We're all heading in the same
25:43
direction, and if we forget to stop at the roadside and pick
25:48
somebody up, Who's down, or at least just talk with them, you
25:51
know, so they get encouragement along the way.
25:52
And sometimes we need to share when we're down and get
25:57
encouragement and be lifted up. I mean, Moses even had Aaron and
26:01
Hur to lift his arms when he couldn't, when he couldn't hold
26:03
him up anymore. I think there's a lot of times
26:07
that we forget his Christians. It's not Sunshine's rainbows and
26:09
it drags us into a position where we can be drug down
26:13
because we're Pride Prides a big one you know nobody wants to
26:18
admit their dirty little secrets or when they're hurt or being
26:22
bothering. I think we kind of just push
26:23
that to the side and we pretend like it didn't happen and we
26:25
don't want to deal with it. And I think that's that's where
26:29
we missed the point. I think we're in this together.
26:33
We're families, were brothers and sisters, like there is
26:35
nothing that has happened in my life that I should not be able
26:38
to tell you or tell somebody that listens to this podcast or
26:42
my podcast that you know me and my rose.
26:44
They could call in Hey, listen, I heard what you said but I
26:47
don't understand how I can do that and we can talk about that.
26:49
Tell me what your problems are. You know, for Me, Like Jesus
26:54
said, my yoke is light and my burden or my yoke is easy.
26:58
And my burden is light. I think we forget when we start
27:02
sharing that information, those hard times, the things that are
27:05
that are beating us up the things that are dragging us
27:07
down. When we share that, it literally
27:09
lightens our load. It doesn't make it heavier.
27:11
It doesn't make it harder to deal with.
27:16
I've been going through it for the last, you know, six months
27:18
to a year now, where some things have happened in my life and in
27:22
my church life, and it just kind of beat me up and Drug me down.
27:27
And I kind of gave into because, you know, my work as I'm not a,
27:31
I'm not a paid Pastor, I work a secular job and it's been
27:35
brutal. It got been one person for I do
27:38
maintenance work. And I've 66 house in responsible
27:40
for. So I got burned out in my work
27:43
life. Send translated over into my
27:46
spiritual life and my emotional life and it just beat me down
27:49
and beat me down. Instead of going to my brothers
27:52
and sisters, instead of going to my pastor and I just kept
27:55
thinking, man, I'll get through this, I just gotta carry me
27:57
through this God will bring me the in.
27:58
God does bring us through it, don't get there.
28:00
Were days that I should have been able to take it.
28:02
Two steps out my front door, but he kept me going.
28:04
But if we're not sharing our burdens with one another, if
28:07
we're not leaning on one another, if we're not sharing
28:10
our experiences so other people can, you know can be brought up
28:13
through something that we've shared.
28:14
Are so, maybe they don't hit those.
28:16
Those bumps in the road that we do it.
28:19
Did that makes our journey so much more difficult and the
28:23
problem is you can't see spiritual warfare, so when you
28:25
let something affect you and it's it's there, the enemy will
28:30
use that and sometimes the enemy doesn't matter.
28:32
Sometimes the stuff that we do has nothing to do with the
28:34
Enemy. We beat ourselves up more than
28:37
the denim. We will half the time.
28:38
Anyway, we are harder on ourselves and we get ourselves
28:41
in a more trouble than the enemy.
28:42
Ever will have to have his job is done.
28:44
Sometimes, It's because of what we think inside our own heads,
28:47
where owners, worst enemy, sometimes, but spiritual for is
28:50
real. And when you start to, for me, I
28:53
know, I was fighting it because I wasn't sharing, because I
28:56
wasn't leaning in. I hadn't been attending church
29:00
for four weeks, and when you start to disconnect, you start
29:03
to recluse yourself. God doesn't walk away but it's a
29:07
lot harder for the Holy Spirit to work through you into work
29:10
through other people with you to help lift you up and encourage
29:13
you, because they don't know what's going on because you're
29:14
not sharing and for me, that's what I did.
29:16
And it was like, quicksand. Like I was just felt like I was
29:18
on this island by myself, and it started to sink and I was
29:20
drowning by myself out there alone.
29:23
Now we know that's not true, but we know the enemy will take that
29:26
and he will build upon that. He will be was press into that
29:29
he'll twist it and manipulate it and makes us just want to say I
29:35
just want to recluse herself just back off and we run you
29:38
know a lot like Jonah God gives us this this this task this this
29:44
process this journey And something happens, and it
29:48
doesn't go the way we want. Or, you know, somebody says
29:51
something we didn't like about it.
29:52
We just we run and we try to hide from it instead of pressing
29:56
into it. So maybe I can't carry this
29:57
burden by myself. But if I had asked for help, if
30:00
I'd reached out how much easier would have been for me to go
30:03
forward, I wouldn't have been in the whale and the belly of the
30:05
whale for six months, eight months a year.
30:08
So there's there's many different seasons in the
30:14
Christian walk. Oh definitely.
30:18
And in my experience like there's there's definitely times
30:22
where we're meant to be in the desert Because God doesn't want
30:26
any other voices in her head other than his?
30:29
And then there's times where it's, like, and I mentioned this
30:32
on another episode. Where's like when David in the
30:34
men come in and they're out, they're exposing the enemy like
30:41
Warfare and they come in and they eat the showbread off the
30:44
table because they're like, look were starving.
30:46
And I think with the body of Christ, well, like we need to
30:49
like see it from this aspect of like when a brother comes in
30:53
from the desert. Bert, who's got the gift of
30:56
healing, the gift of servitude, right?
30:59
Or because we might need some wounds wrapped.
31:03
And then who's, you know, the encourager and there should be
31:07
many. Many of those gifts within the
31:09
meeting places but what you're saying I can relate to some of
31:13
it. And what I was thinking is just,
31:17
it's hard sometimes to put all the stock in just a fellowship
31:22
because God may want to say, Wanting to us that nobody else
31:26
can hear. And then there's times where we
31:30
need nothing more than to be with Brothers, dwelling together
31:33
in unity. So I love hearing those
31:35
experiences and just I'm saying that more for the listeners and
31:38
a reminder to myself. And for you Pastor showing
31:41
because there's many different ways that God is doing things
31:45
that doesn't make sense to us. But when we get together and we
31:49
encourage each other like just, you know, another local
31:52
podcaster, you know, you guys Are over there, doing awesome
31:55
stuff on the prodigal, son. I love the sense of humor.
31:58
I've listened to a couple episodes and you put out a lot
32:02
of content. I've probably listen to, like,
32:04
five to seven of your shows, over the last like, year or two
32:08
and I've liked everything I heard.
32:11
It's for me, I'm like, yo that's should be like the after-hours
32:16
spot on the Sunday when Church closes, like everybody's like,
32:19
get out of here. I'm trying to go to the waffle
32:21
place, right? I'm trying to hide.
32:23
There's a sale over it. Season.
32:24
I'm like, I don't even congregate with people like
32:26
that. First of all, you know, more or
32:28
less like, in the gutter with people that are limping around
32:31
prophesying and and fighting spiritual battles, and educating
32:34
ourselves, so that we can be Iron worthy to sharpen on other
32:38
iron. But when I hear what you guys
32:39
are doing, I'm like man, if I was attending all the time
32:43
locally at like a building, I would want like church to end
32:47
and grab a coffee and like that. Be the conversation.
32:49
Like what you guys are doing it? Like another the humor and then
32:53
you're tackling. Are real issues, real topics,
32:56
real ideas. So I definitely feel like
33:01
there's going to be a part. Two down the road.
33:03
I would love to even like link up at some point in time with
33:06
like all the guys that you're on the panel with over there on the
33:08
show were really. There's a lot that I can't
33:12
divulge on right now, but a lot going on behind the scenes and
33:16
it kind of like the Christian and the Christian Fringe seen.
33:20
You know this is like all around the country at this point but I
33:24
love identifying like, who's who, where we at?
33:27
And let's lock arms. Wright brothers dwelling
33:31
together in unity. And I think the four of you over
33:33
there on the show are demonstrating that they just
33:37
being real. Having a sense of humor, you
33:40
know, and diving into these real topics and just sharing each
33:43
other's testimonies that's encouraging for me.
33:46
So, I got to kind of wind down here with you, Sean, but I want
33:49
you to just answer this for me and the listeners if you had
33:53
one. Last message you could give to
33:55
the body of Christ. God was like listen.
34:01
This is the last time I'm going to have you on air.
34:03
I know you love doing this. I'm calling you into deeper
34:05
waters. What would you say to the body
34:07
of Christ? And you're going to give me
34:13
preaching here soon, but I'll try and keep it short because
34:16
there is there's some main points that I've learned over
34:19
over the last, you know, eight or nine years of one, never lose
34:23
your faith. Always trust a no matter what
34:26
you're going through, no matter how deep the water The Lord will
34:30
always part it for you. It may not be the way you look,
34:34
it may not be the way you want but he's going to part that
34:37
bought water for you. If you have the faith of a
34:39
mustard seed since we're here, he will move a mountain if you
34:43
wanted to. It may not be the whole Mountain
34:45
will not jump up and get into the ocean.
34:46
But one rock one Boulder, one ton of sand at a time he's going
34:52
to move that thing little by little by little.
34:54
And sometimes we just have to be patient.
34:56
Always keep your faith, always trust that God is going to do
34:59
exactly. Actually what he said he's going
35:00
to do. Don't worry about it in your
35:03
time because you'll never get there if you try to worry about
35:07
it from the human perspective and from the human time, trust
35:10
that God is going to move. If he has to move it one Pebble
35:12
at a time, he's going to do it or he's going to move the whole
35:14
Mountain if he needs to move the whole mountain, right then and
35:16
there but keep the faith, no matter what happens.
35:20
Because coming through, on the other side of the mountain is
35:23
always going to be peace and joy, you can always you're going
35:27
to have a life of frustration. You're going to have a life of
35:29
chaos, but keep your faith and keep Keep moving forward to the
35:32
peace, and the joy that he provides.
35:35
Very well said, man that there's some wisdom and season and that
35:39
for sure. Do you want to let the listeners
35:41
know where they can find a link to your guys podcast over there
35:46
on the prodigal sons and anything else you like just
35:50
closes out here anything else you want to share with us before
35:53
we get off and I just I appreciate it.
35:54
Gave me an opportunity to come on and talk with you.
35:56
We've talked a few times, we've been trying to do this for a
35:58
minute, trying to get together and we finally got together.
36:00
Even had some small issues tonight be trying to get home
36:03
and get on there too. This and we had some issues but
36:07
God is good and here we are but yeah you can find us live at
36:10
6:30 Eastern Time on Facebook at prodigal son show and then you
36:16
can catch us anywhere that you listen your favorite podcast
36:18
Podcast, Addict, anchor Spotify, Apple music.
36:22
I know there's others. Those are the big ones.
36:23
I can think of off the top of my head, but it prodigal sons
36:26
podcast. Our logo is black background
36:29
with the teal woven cross. And it says, Real Men, Real
36:32
Faith, real talk. That's our logo again.
36:34
Thanks for I'm me on and yeah, definitely get you over on our
36:37
show man because you bring a different element.
36:40
Some of the stuff you talked about it on her show with the
36:42
the Supernatural and stuff. More relates to me than so much
36:46
rest of my podcast crew. But I'd love to get you on there
36:49
and have that conversation and let them kind of chimed in to
36:51
see where they're at. Because I don't think we really
36:53
had that kind of conversation. I think kind of we skirt that
36:56
because I don't think that's one of their big issue but I've had
36:58
a lot of experiences so I definitely have to get back
37:00
together with you talk about that sometime.
37:02
Thank you for the kind words and it was an honor to have you.
37:05
Roma show with me. And yeah, anytime you want me to
37:07
come rock the boat and possibly sink it over there with the
37:10
prodigal sons. Just let me know.
37:12
We got crazy bleep in the corner, he'll calm the storm.
37:15
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