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Monday 5pm hour 05/18/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: 570 WKBN. 506 News Radio 570 WKBN on Monday, 90 degrees.
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  Speaker 1: Back here to the boss, ladies. So you're saying that
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  Speaker 1: you're opposed to..
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  Speaker 2: No jobs.
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  Speaker 3: The public is asked to provide land. We've got to
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  Speaker 3: provide all the infrastructure.
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  Speaker 2: They're tearing up the roads. They're tearing up the land.
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  Speaker 2: They get huge, massive tax incentives.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to utilize our utilities and put.
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  Speaker 2: Strain on them.
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  Speaker 3: And what benefit are we really getting?
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  Speaker 2: And if we think.
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  Speaker 3: That we're getting, oh, well, they're going to be valued
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  Speaker 3: so high it's going to take strain off of the
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  Speaker 3: property tax person, that's not true because Ohio uses these
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  Speaker 3: things called TIFs. And as I was looking about this issue,
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  Speaker 3: I actually called last week.
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  Speaker 2: I called one day. I couldn't get on. It was busy,
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  Speaker 2: and I just hung up. But they use something called
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  Speaker 2: a TIF.
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  Speaker 3: And the more research I did on that is tax
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  Speaker 3: increment financing. So what happens is, let's say that that
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  Speaker 3: farmland pays $ 10, 000 a.
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  Speaker 2: Year in property taxes.
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  Speaker 3: And then you get a data center, it gets built,
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  Speaker 3: and then it's valued at $ 2 million a year. But
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  Speaker 3: the original $ 10, 000 keeps going normally.
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  Speaker 2: That extra $ 1.
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  Speaker 3: 99 million or whatever it is, That can be captured
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  Speaker 3: by what they call a TIF. And that money gets
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  Speaker 3: redirected to just help the roads that they tore up,
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  Speaker 3: the electrical substations, any water lines or anything that got messed.
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  Speaker 2: Up during the project.
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  Speaker 3: Those TIFs, as they call them, are 10 to 30 years.
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  Speaker 2: And Ohio loves those.
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  Speaker 3: So which means no benefit for 30 years to the community.
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  Speaker 2: And no jobs.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know why everybody's getting so excited about them.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not an end user.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe one day, 30 years, maybe I'll be dead
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  Speaker 3: by the time I'm an end user. But right now, Microsoft, Google,
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  Speaker 3: those are who benefit from these things. We are not
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  Speaker 3: going to benefit from these things. Bring me something with
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  Speaker 3: a lot of jobs.
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  Speaker 2: And we're giving away farmland.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: To me, it's not what it's all hopped up to be.
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  Speaker 3: And when I saw Plushnik today, I'll forward you.
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  Speaker 2: But he didn't have very nice things to say about
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  Speaker 2: it either.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so let me ask this. First of all, I
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  Speaker 1: acknowledge the following, and I find it disturbing that it
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  Speaker 1: seems the federal government wants to take total control over
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  Speaker 1: the local government and local zoning when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: data centers. Have you been following this? I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: really disturbs me that they would have complete control over
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  Speaker 1: the local community when it comes to data centers. I'm
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  Speaker 1: opposed to that. When I said to you why I
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  Speaker 1: support data centers and why I would want them here,
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  Speaker 1: I know that they don't create a bunch of jobs,
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  Speaker 1: but just bear with me for a minute. I don't
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  Speaker 1: go along with DeWine. DeWine, a Republican that says give
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  Speaker 1: data centers a break on the sales tax for all
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  Speaker 1: the materials that they buy to build them. When I
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  Speaker 1: heard that, I thought there's no reason to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Once again, if I add on to my garage, I've
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  Speaker 1: got to pay sales tax on materials, but a data
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  Speaker 1: center shouldn't for all the material that they want to
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  Speaker 1: purchase doesn't make any sense to me. When I said
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  Speaker 1: to you or to everybody about my support of data centers,
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  Speaker 1: I always start with zero tax breaks at all for
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  Speaker 1: a data center.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that ain't happening. It ain't going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: It won't happen.
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  Speaker 2: Why not?
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  Speaker 1: Why not?
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  Speaker 2: They won't come here. They'll go somewhere else. They'll go
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  Speaker 2: to some other stupid state that's going to do that
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  Speaker 2: for them.
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  Speaker 3: But it shouldn't be here in Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: Well, in Ohio, I go back to say this. So
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  Speaker 1: tell me where I'm wrong in this. Ohio is a
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  Speaker 1: great spot to locate. Everything I've read because of our
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  Speaker 1: weather is perfect for data centers. It's not too hot
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  Speaker 1: like Arizona and Florida and that kind of stuff. And
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  Speaker 1: you need specific locations because of the transmission lines that
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  Speaker 1: are necessary for them. So it's not like you can
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  Speaker 1: go anywhere. You need the infrastructure. You need the weather.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have to do anything for these people. You
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  Speaker 1: want to build a data center here? Here it is.
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  Speaker 1: We'll sell you all the materials that employ our construction
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  Speaker 1: people while it's being built. And you will have maintenance
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  Speaker 1: on it, a lot of air conditioning and what have you.
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  Speaker 1: So it will have outside jobs for a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people to maintain the facility. And granted, there won't be
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  Speaker 1: a lot of workers at the facility because it's technology.
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  Speaker 1: You don't need a lot of workers. You don't need workers.
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  Speaker 1: a lot of workers there. But if you would go
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  Speaker 1: along with what I've said, you would have tax dollars
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  Speaker 1: coming in without a lot of wear and tear on
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  Speaker 1: your roads and what have you, and those tax dollars
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  Speaker 1: would offset your property taxes because a fixed levy cost
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  Speaker 1: would be shifted to that huge facility in the community.
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  Speaker 3: Except it won't be, is what I'm trying to say.
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  Speaker 3: In other arrangements, from what I've read, that doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 3: So if that's going to happen, now all of a
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  Speaker 3: sudden Ohio changes its stance, then maybe I would agree.
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  Speaker 3: But that's not what Ohio has been doing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's the only way I would agree to a
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  Speaker 1: data center.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can understand your point from that perspective.
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  Speaker 2: But let me..
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  Speaker 1: But I do say this. They're coming, and if let's
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  Speaker 1: say they'll locate somewhere else..
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  Speaker 2: Nebraska sounds good to me. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Statewide region, which is part of your electrical grid. So
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  Speaker 1: you get the expenses of it without any of the
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  Speaker 1: benefits of it from your construction people.
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  Speaker 2: That's a very good point. That is a good point.
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  Speaker 2: That is a valid point.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So you're getting that. My concern is, once again,
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  Speaker 1: they have to provide their own power source. They can't
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  Speaker 1: keep stressing our grid and for sucking up all of
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  Speaker 1: this power. I mean, I am deeply troubled that the
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  Speaker 1: federal government thinks they should have the say-so over any
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  Speaker 1: local government. I'm dead set against any state saying there
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  Speaker 1: would be tax abatements or any of this stuff. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just against all of it. I do think, though, AI,
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  Speaker 1: when people do Google searches and what have you, they
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  Speaker 1: will start using it. It's the coming frontier. Even for you,
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  Speaker 1: it's the coming frontier.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's what Plushnick's problem with it is, is that
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  Speaker 3: he opposes anybody who's going to try to take away
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  Speaker 3: the state or local city control.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's his main issue.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And they've got all these NDAs that are backdoor. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I've listened to some of those reels that
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  Speaker 3: the people are doing, and it just.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't sound, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But I have something very troubling that came to me
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  Speaker 3: over the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: It's off the data.
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  Speaker 2: It's off the data center.
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  Speaker 1: All right, but before you get to that. I want
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  Speaker 1: to find a community. I was reading this article, and
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember where it was, where the data center,
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  Speaker 1: the power company has said to this community, we won't
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  Speaker 1: be able to provide you with any power in a
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  Speaker 1: year and a half to the community, the residents, because
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  Speaker 1: it's all going to go to this data center. And basically,
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to have any power. Exactly. Sounds like
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  Speaker 1: I'm making it up, right? But it was an actual
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  Speaker 1: news story that said they have notified you have a
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  Speaker 1: year and a half to figure out what you're going
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  Speaker 1: to have to do because the system will just be
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  Speaker 1: there to provide for these data centers. There's a ton
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  Speaker 1: of them, incidentally, down by Columbus already, as you well know,
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  Speaker 1: in Columbus. A lot of them in Virginia because of
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  Speaker 1: the federal government's. So they're popping up all over. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to try to find out where that place
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  Speaker 1: was that I was reading.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's troubling.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's troubling.
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  Speaker 1: Now, what else bothers you since it's been a while
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  Speaker 1: since I've heard from you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I walked into some very disturbing news to me,
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  Speaker 3: and I can't tell you where, but I was in
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  Speaker 3: Mahoning County. Well, I'll tell.
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  Speaker 5: You, I was in Boardman.
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  Speaker 2: I was talking to some folks, and they said..
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, you know, that lady that lives right.
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  Speaker 2: Over there in a $ 300, 000 condo.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, she just had a cleaning lady come, and they
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  Speaker 3: cleaned her house for her.
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  Speaker 2: I said, who's that lady?
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at her $ 300, 000 condo, which is far higher
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  Speaker 3: than the average home in the Honing County.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so you've got a $ 300, 000 condo and a
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  Speaker 1: cleaning lady. Okay, so what?
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's where your senior levy money went. They sent
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  Speaker 3: somebody to clean her home for her.
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  Speaker 2: Now, that's wonderful.
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  Speaker 3: You can't hate the player.
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  Speaker 2: You got to hate the game. Because if I was her.
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  Speaker 3: I would have taken that benefit too for free. But
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  Speaker 3: the day that we start paying, and I said this
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  Speaker 3: to you weeks ago, and I think Alec, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's very smart.
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  Speaker 2: He's echoing a lot of the things.
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  Speaker 3: That I'm saying. We are becoming socialist and people need
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  Speaker 3: to heed the warning. The day that my home is
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  Speaker 3: levied to provide a woman sitting in a $ 300, 000 home
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  Speaker 3: who walks with two feet, who's not in a wheelchair,
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  Speaker 3: that I got to pay for her house, I'm a
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  Speaker 3: little hopped up, Ron.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little popped up. Now, where did I see that?
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  Speaker 1: I happened to read that.
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  Speaker 3: I posted it all day today, so I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if you saw it if you were on Facebook. I
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  Speaker 3: did a reel on it on TikTok as well.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I am so inspired.
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  Speaker 1: Now, pause for a second. All right, pause for a second,
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  Speaker 1: and then I'll let you get back to that, all right?
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  Speaker 1: I found what I was looking for. AI overview, incidentally.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to this. The Aryan question... is Lake Tahoe region,
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  Speaker 1: spanning the California-Nevada border. The local power supplier, Envy Energy,
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  Speaker 1: notified the region that it will stop supplying power in
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  Speaker 1: order to divert electricity to massive new AI and tech
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  Speaker 1: data centers being built east of Reno. This decision impacts
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  Speaker 1: nearly 60,000 residents and businesses worldwide. who have been left
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  Speaker 1: scrabbling to find a new electrical provider before the impending cutoff.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a second.
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  Speaker 3: Don't you think we're moving a little too fast, Ben?
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  Speaker 3: Moving a little too fast. We're creating more problems than
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  Speaker 3: we're solving right now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, can you imagine that? Can you imagine?
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  Speaker 2: No! Because it's not in California.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine if you live in this Lake Tahoe
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  Speaker 1: region and you're notified that, hey, we're not going to,
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  Speaker 1: your energy supplier, the local power supplier, says we're not
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  Speaker 1: going to supply any electricity to the 50,000 residents and businesses.
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  Speaker 1: All of our power is going to the data centers.
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  Speaker 1: So basically, you've got to figure it out. You've got
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  Speaker 1: a year and a half left. to figure this out.
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  Speaker 1: When I heard this story, I thought, are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just looking for more stuff about it. It's
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  Speaker 1: hard to imagine, isn't it, that that's the case?
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  Speaker 3: It's absolutely hard to imagine, but that's why I'm saying
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  Speaker 3: we're moving too fast.
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  Speaker 2: We're moving too fast.
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  Speaker 3: If our electrical system can't handle this, then we're moving
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  Speaker 3: too fast and people need to simmer down.
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  Speaker 2: Calm down.
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  Speaker 3: Making rush decisions too fast. Now, that community, ultimately, I
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  Speaker 3: think it's going to be interesting to see what do
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  Speaker 3: they do.
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  Speaker 1: Northern Nevada has become one of the fastest-growing data center
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  Speaker 1: corridors in the country. Google, Apple, and Microsoft have either
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  Speaker 1: built or are planning facilities around the Tahoe-Reno Industrial Center
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  Speaker 1: east of Reno. The Desert Research Institute, using data from
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  Speaker 1: NV Energy 2024, Integrated Resource Plan found that the 12
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  Speaker 1: data center projects located overwhelmingly in northern Nevada could drive
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  Speaker 1: 5,900 megawatts of new demand by 2033. At a regional
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  Speaker 1: business event last fall, NV Energy's Director of Business Development
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  Speaker 1: called the moment unprecedented, saying the company was eager to
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  Speaker 1: serve the new industrial load, but that it would not
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  Speaker 1: impact our existing customer base. But Liberty's 49,000 California customers
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  Speaker 1: may already be hearing bearing the cost. Liberty Utility generates
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  Speaker 1: about 25% of its power from solar facilities it owns
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  Speaker 1: in Nevada. The other 75% comes from NV Energy. And
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  Speaker 1: that source will no longer be supplied to the region
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  Speaker 1: by this time next year. It's like we don't exist,
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  Speaker 1: Daniels says. Told Fortune, Hughes is a North Lake Tahoe
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  Speaker 1: resident CEO of the nonprofit Tahoe Spark and supervisor within
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  Speaker 1: the California Energy Commission. So can you imagine being told this? Hey,
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  Speaker 1: from your electrical supplier?
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  Speaker 2: Now somebody's got to come up with a solution. What
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  Speaker 2: are they going to do? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: The CPUC approves Liberty's rates and procurement requests, but it
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  Speaker 1: cannot order NV Energy to keep selling wholesale power or
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  Speaker 1: dictate how Nevada plans for data centers. That falls to
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  Speaker 1: the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission. It's unbelievable when you read this. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, when you when you read this. At first
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  Speaker 1: I thought, am I hearing this right? You're telling me that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, think about it.
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  Speaker 3: They just put regulators on all of our homes, didn't they?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, most of our homes now have these boxes
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  Speaker 3: on the outside.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're telling me, you're telling these people, 60,000
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  Speaker 1: people in a year and a half, you better figure
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  Speaker 1: out what to do because all the power is going
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  Speaker 1: to go to these data centers. It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a problem. We're moving too fast. They need
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  Speaker 2: to slow down. All right.
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  Speaker 1: So now, and it's spiking the demand for electricity, and
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  Speaker 1: the rates are going up for all of us at
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  Speaker 1: our homes and everything. So it's going to be so
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  Speaker 1: you can't afford to have your air conditioning on. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about this senior levy that's providing cleaning services
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  Speaker 1: for old people in... $ 300, 000 condo. Because how do you,
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  Speaker 1: how do.
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  Speaker 3: You pay for some $ 300, 000 ladies cleaning service?
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  Speaker 1: Well, what I say is an income based at all,
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  Speaker 1: or is it just, well, no, that's the.
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  Speaker 2: Problem with the stupid levy.
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  Speaker 3: The stupid levy actually is the opposite. It's actually people
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  Speaker 3: who do not fall into the other social welfare programs.
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  Speaker 3: So you make too much money to qualify for the
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  Speaker 3: other state, um, supplements, you make too much money to
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  Speaker 3: qualify for other programs. So you have to make too
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  Speaker 3: much money.
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  Speaker 2: To qualify for this.
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  Speaker 3: Now, tell that to the man who busted his butt
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  Speaker 3: for 30 years and decided not to buy the $ 300, 000 condo,
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  Speaker 3: decided I'm going to stay in my $ 100, 000 home and
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to pay my own cleaning lady.
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  Speaker 1: Sit tight. Hang in there. The Boss Lady, NewsRadio 570 WKBN,
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  Speaker 1: and Ron Furp back in a minute. Youngstown's news, weather,
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  Speaker 1: and talk station, 570 WKBN. 525 NewsRadio 570 WKBN. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I was, when they were proposing the senior levy when
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  Speaker 1: it first came on the ballot. Yeah, I was opposed
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  Speaker 1: to it. I was on the air totally and completely
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  Speaker 1: opposed to it. And I didn't I didn't support it
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  Speaker 1: at all because it's it's we're turning in a socialist here.
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  Speaker 1: But the community, for whatever God-known reason, voted for it.
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  Speaker 1: It's a property tax. They voted for this senior levy.
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  Speaker 1: And then once they got all this money, they start
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  Speaker 1: all these handout programs that are going on for senior citizens. Like, apparently,
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  Speaker 1: you're no longer responsible for yourself anymore. personal responsibility is
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  Speaker 1: by the wayside you know if you didn't save any
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  Speaker 1: money or or whatever because you're old well we'll come
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  Speaker 1: cut your grass for free because you're old we'll come
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  Speaker 1: clean your house for free this is insanity the man
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  Speaker 1: who lives.
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  Speaker 3: In a hundred thousand dollar home that decided not to
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  Speaker 3: upgrade he's now paying for the woman who lives in
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  Speaker 3: the three hundred thousand dollar home It's so dumb and twisted.
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  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: It's uneducated voters who don't understand. And it's these commissioners who,
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  Speaker 3: they come to it and say, hey, we want to
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  Speaker 3: put on a senior levy. They're already getting money funded
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  Speaker 3: from the state. And the commissioners, oh, that sounds like
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  Speaker 3: a great idea. Let's put it on the ballot. And
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  Speaker 3: then nobody oversees the program and how the money is
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  Speaker 3: being spent. If I was a commissioner, I would say,
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  Speaker 3: what do you plan to do with this money, sir?
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  Speaker 3: You want millions of dollars from the taxpayer. You want
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  Speaker 3: to levy their homes.
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  Speaker 2: What are you going to do with the money?
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  Speaker 1: Why is it my responsibility?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to end up at a commissioner's meeting.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to end up on the news.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm going to go to a commissioner's meeting. I'm
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  Speaker 3: getting so sickened. I want oversight of these nonprofits.
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  Speaker 2: I want somebody.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Pick a different one because they don't have to.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Listen, you're better off talking about it here because you
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: might as well go down. You think Carol Rigetti's going
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: to listen and actually give a damn? No, I don't care.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I'm going to make her look like a fool. And
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: I'm going to tell Stan Boney you might want to
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: come to the meeting because I'm going to light him
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: up today.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I'll be there.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Come down. It's going to be on Channel 21.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Because they need to start over.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Where's the oversight?
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: And then you get the forever levies, which the senior levy, thankfully,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: is not a forever tax.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: And the voters, they don't.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Understand what's happening. They think, oh, the seniors, we got
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: to support the seniors. You know, and here's the funny thing.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: That lady in that $ 300, 000 condo, okay? She paid for
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: that service anyways out of her property tax. And you
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: have to be current on your property taxes to receive it.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: So you don't have to be destitute. You don't have
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: to be poor.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: You can't qualify for other programs, which means you're doing
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: okay in terms of the state. And you get these benefits.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: And you're levying people's homes.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: It's sickening.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: And they're making up these rules. And the rules are very, like, arbitrary. Like,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: where's the income? Is there an income cap?
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter when it should not be the responsibility
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: of the property tax owner to pay to have anybody
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: clean your house, period. Pick up after yourself. I mean,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. It's why your property taxes. So I
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: go back to say it again. It is a property
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: tax levy that you pay for the library system around here.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I'll say it for the hundredth time, maybe the thousandth time.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: The biggest problem your public library has in this community
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: is they have so much money coming in. Spending it
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: every year is their biggest concern. How do we spend
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: all of this? So they'd be more than happy to
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: build a new library in Poland or build a new
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: one in Struthers because they've got to figure out how
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: do we spend all of this money that's coming in
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: every year with the property taxes. All of you people
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: that say, I love my library, have been duped over
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: what you're paying for. Stand by. Just hang in there.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I'll be right back. News Radio 570 WKVN. All right,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Ron Verbe, back to it. Now, Ron Verbe. Yes. On
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: News Radio 570 WKVN. From the kingdom of Mahoning, I am,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I am at 534 News Radio 570 WKBN. So I
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: go back to say all that kind of stuff. Oh,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I love my library and all that kind of stuff. Well,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: you don't know how the money's being spent. They got
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: all this money in reserve. This idea that all these
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: entities got to have bank accounts of your tax dollars
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: making interest off of it is insanity. That means they're
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: taking too much of your money in the first place,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: and they have all this money in a bank account
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: earning interest. that you don't have because they're taking so much.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: There is zero monitoring of that. So everybody like, I
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: go to the library, I love the library or whatever,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: have no clue.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: No one knows.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Absolutely no.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: How many people are going.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: To come in? No one knows. And like I've said
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: a million times, I say this to all of you
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: time and time again, WRTA, you voted for a quarter
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: percent forever sales tax for WRTA. It generates $ 10 million
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a year every year for WRTA. Their biggest problem with
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: WRTA is how do we spend all this? Well, we'll
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: build another garage. We'll buy some of these electric buses
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: that are all expensive. They've got to figure out every
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: year how to get rid of $ 10 million. This is
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest problems they have is how do
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: we spend all of this money? And I'll sit here
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: until I'm blue in the face and tell you that's
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: it with the sales tax of WRTA. And I'll tell
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: you that the library has the same damn problem. This
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: is all going on. When you have to bite the
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: bullet and make sacrifices with these high property taxes that
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: you're paying and the lack of affordability for young people
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: to be able to afford a house or old people
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: to stay in a house because the insanity– with these
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: property taxes, and the senior levy is a shining example
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: of another socialistic handout program that has to come up
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: with ways to get rid of this money for senior citizens.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: It's not my responsibility as a taxpayer to clean your
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: damn house or any of this other nonsense. No. Yeah.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Or any of it.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Right. And when Gino called that one day when I
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: was talking about property taxes, what did he say? Well,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: we've got to take care of our seniors. No, that isn't. Oh, no.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: You have a personal responsibility. Everybody's problems aren't my problems.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: They're not. Nor should they be the taxpayer problem.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: And it's getting worse and worse by the minute. I
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: heard some... Alex said something else the other day, not
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: property tax related, but I.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Was listening while I was working, and I was like,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: you know what?
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: That's pretty... spot on.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Because what did I say? Our problem is the middle class.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: And our problem is the state of Ohio.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: You either work for the state or you're receiving state benefits.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Because I think it's 50% of the state's budget is Medicaid.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: So you're not going to vote. That's why in Mahoning County,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: in our area, which is a poorer area, continues to
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: pass these levies.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: But you see across the state, they're not doing that.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: But what he said was brilliant when he said that
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: if all the fraud was caught, right, and you can
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: take this to, if we stopped expanding all this government,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: because that's all we do is expand government and social welfare.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Programs, our economy would collapse. Because they would have no jobs.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Because for all the fraud, you still have to add
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: a job. So for every $ 1, 000.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: You know, they manage by.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Head count, by revenue count.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: That's how you add jobs, right?
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: You have run at a ratio. One manager to every
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: five supervisors. One supervisor to every hundred employees. That's exactly
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: how they do it in the state.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: If you eliminate all.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: The fraud, all the spending, all the crap, and... Our economy,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: we have built a system that relies upon the system.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: And it's not getting better.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: It's getting worse.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: I want somebody to do.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Something about it.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Right, right. All right. Before I let you go, because
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: you're a big executive, have you followed this scandal at J.P.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: Morgan?
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I actually have not.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: You've got to read this.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I'll check into it today.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: This is nationally, all right? You will laugh. It's called J.P.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Morgan's sex slave case.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got to read it. This woman's name, let
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: me give you her name. I've got to find her name.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: He has a sex slave case.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to see this. You got to read this.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: You will.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Her name is, the woman in question is L-O-R-N-A, and
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: her last name is H-A-J-D-I-N-I. And just Google that and
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: read that story. I'll Google it. And they offer this
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: guy $ 20 million, and he turned it down.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: $ 20 million. Well, he's got a lot of money then.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: No, he turned it down. I guess he wants more.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: You've got to read this case.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: All right. I've got to read the article.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: And then you've got to comment on it tomorrow.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: You'll say, it's unbelievable.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. All right.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: See.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: One more thing.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: What is it now?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Real quick about the fraud in Ohio.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: And when he said this, it caught me.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: He's my favorite. He's my favorite. I mean, I like
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: a lot of the callers, but he's my favorite.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: And he's my favorite. I don't know what it is
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: about him.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I like that kid.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: He said, and I even talked about this with everybody.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: After he said it, I was like, yeah, no kidding.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: But sometimes, you know, common sense isn't so common. So
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: when somebody says it, you're like, oh, my God, yeah,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: of course. These Somalis didn't come to Ohio.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: And do all this fraud without help. You don't pack
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: it up.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: You know, I've been in other countries. You couldn't walk
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: into another country, learn their system, learn how to cheat,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: most importantly, on your own.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: You couldn't do it.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Do you know how hard that would be to do,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: to go undetected for that long and defraud.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Us that bad?
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: And I thought that was brilliant and should be commented
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: on again.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: He's a good caller.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: All right. Are you done?
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I'm done rambling for today. I'm all hopped up, Ron.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: All right. See you.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Bye.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Bye.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: You're on the air.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Hey, Ron.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Bubba Ganoush.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: Can I ask you something?
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Bubba Ganoush, you know I'm always here for you.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you something. Why do you bitch about
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: taxes and stuff and then.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: You voted all the levies in?
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Well, no, I didn't. I didn't vote for the senior levy.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I did not vote for the sales tax for WRTA.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: There's many levies that I do not vote for. Did
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I vote in favor of the quarter percent for Pat
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Giannetti's road tax? Absolutely, I did. Also, John Smith. Yeah,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: they are. There's never been more roads fixed, the road miles, ever.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: in this county and the quality of work that Pat
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Giannetti's doing. So the road miles that he's doing throughout
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Mahoning County and the benefits that your townships and cities
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: get from that money as well is astronomical. I voted
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: for it. I'd vote for it again tomorrow. It's a
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: quarter percent sales tax. that goes to the county engineer
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: for our roads. I also voted for the renewals for
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: my township and the road taxes there to keep my roads.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I drive on these roads. They need
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: to be maintained. I don't need these giant potholes. Pat
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Gennetti's doing a great job when it comes to the county,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: and the township needs money to maintain the roads as well.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: It's very expensive with the cost of asphalt. So it
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: was a renewal in the case of the township, two
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: renewals where I live, and a renewal on a quarter percent.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I support road taxes. There's some taxes that I don't think,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: whether you like it or not, you need police, you
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: need fire, and you need an ambulance to show up.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: And I'll support that because you've got to have those
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: services and they are becoming more costly. And so I
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: vote for those renewals or some additional. And it will
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: take that hit because you need those particular service. I
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: do not, as I've said, support all the rest of
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: this nonsense. But if you say all taxes are bad. Well,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of taxes, but you do get
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: something for what you're paying and services that come from them.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: So some of them, I'm an adult. I realize I
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: have to pay for those services. I need somebody to
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: plow my streets. I need a road department.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Hey, does that include city youngstown?
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Does what include?
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I'm in Mahoney County.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Does that include city youngstown?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they get anything. It might be
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: different for the city. I'm not sure. It included the
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: townships getting money from that quarter percent sales tax. If
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: you know anything about the county, you've never seen more
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: roads get done. Roads that hadn't been done in 30
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: years are getting the attention, and not a dime of
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: it goes to raises or any of this kind of stuff.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: It goes to bridges, culverts, and roads, and it's all necessary.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: The Monning County Engineers budget had been the same for decades,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: and that's why we couldn't get enough done, and we
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: had roads that were deteriorating. So I schooled you on that,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Bubba Ganoush.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Well, I have to find out if City Youngstown is
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: part of Mahoning County.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: It is part of Mahoning County, obviously. Well, I live in.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Mill Creek Park. I mean, outside, you know, the perimeter.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I thought you were sleeping on a bench in the
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: park at night.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, these roads are bad. Is that what you're going
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: to think about me?
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Well, you said you live in Mill Creek Park.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: This is not Bubba Ganoush. This is Diamond Dave, by
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know a Diamond Dave. I just know a
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Bubba Ganoush. Well. But I know Bubba Ganoush and his cousin, Kibby.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: That's a good one.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: By the way.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I got to go.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: No.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: The Guardians are starting to hit now. Did you see that?
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Yes. They won last night big. Big. By the way.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: The Pistons, they just gave up.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: They gave up before the half.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: What a great... Hey, a victory's a victory. I'll take
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: it however they get it. It's now on to the
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: next round.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I know, but that's a great team.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: They were number one in the pick.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: All right. Sayonara. I've got to move along. You're on
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: the air. Good evening, Ron.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: How are you?
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: It's G2 with... I'm doing well. Thank you, G2.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: So, what is the general... thinking around this Massey versus
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Israel fight.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Well, you give me the insight on that. Tomorrow's a
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: big day on that.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: Tomorrow's the big day. They deployed Hegseth today to go
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: down to fight against Massey. And it's interesting. I'm seeing
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: very clear delineations of attitude. If you're a Fox boomer,
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: you hate Thomas Massey. He's a grandstander. He's a bad guy.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: He's got to be eliminated. Now, The thing is, if
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: you look at his voting record, it's nearly perfect. And
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: yet they say he voted against all these things. Well,
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: that's a little deceptive. But he did definitely say he's
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: not supportive of foreign aid.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: At all.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: Right, period. Not Israel-specific, just foreign aid. And that set
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: them off.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Keep in mind, he said we're $ 40 trillion in debt.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: We can't afford foreign aid. And he's right.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: He's right, but Israel doesn't care. And then he said,
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: you know, that the Epstein file should be released. And
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: we've talked about this extensively.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Well, he's right about that, too.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: I'm saying I think, you know, Trump is an Epstein client.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: I don't think anybody legitimate is still hanging on to that.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: You've got to be deep in the nonsense to still
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: hang on to that. But it's clearly the case now.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: that the premise we laid out, you know, back then,
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: middle of last summer, is got to be right. He
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: cut a deal, and in that deal, he got protection
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: from Epstein's clients, or he gave that. I said, I
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: don't know which side he was on of this. And
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: he got something in return for that, and I don't
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: know what that was. And I said a thousand times,
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: I hope it was a good deal. Now I'm wondering
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: if there's anything he could have gotten for that that
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: was worth it. You know, because..
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: No, no, there isn't. There is not. When you ran
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: on that, when you ran on that, and then miraculously
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: in that one day after you met with Netanyahu, he
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: changed that day where he said, are you still talking
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: about that story? That's old news. Literally did a 180. Yeah,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: four years.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: What are you talking about? Yeah, this was where the
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: fracture in the coalition that got Donald Trump elected first appeared.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: So I'm finding that some people walking into tomorrow saying,
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: you've got to trust Donald Trump implicitly, whatever he wants
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: he should get. And I say, well, wait a minute.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: There are really bad members of Congress in both Republican
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: and Democrat sides who vote against us all the time.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Why would we spend all this energy to get rid
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: of this guy? And the answer is purely, well, where
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: did the $ 25 million come from? And again, it's Paul Singer,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: Mary Madelson. So this is Israel. The guy who they
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: picked to come in said, the very first thing out
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: of the gate was, he already said he loves Israel.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: So if you've got a guy who will be a
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: dedicated military industrial complex supporter, just as, you know, they've been...
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: And they're going to try to replace the guy with
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: a 100% rating, an A rating, one of the top
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: ratings in Congress for the America First agenda. I think
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  Speaker 5: this is a mistake for Trump. And my... premise is
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  Speaker 5: that if he wins, if Trump wins and beats Massey,
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  Speaker 5: if Israel beats Massey, then Trump loses because he's going
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  Speaker 5: to fracture this coalition and the fracture is going to
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  Speaker 5: become even more hard to heal. If Trump loses..
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  Speaker 1: News at 6 and then first pitch a little bit
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  Speaker 1: after 6.30 here on NewsRadio 570. And as they take
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  Speaker 1: on the Tigers tonight with G2. So I think we
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  Speaker 1: have a short broadcast tomorrow, 3 to 6. So you
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  Speaker 1: have to call me probably sometime during the 3 to
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  Speaker 1: 6 time frame to talk about the outcome. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if we'll know the outcome until tomorrow.
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  Speaker 5: We might have a good indication because this is going
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  Speaker 5: to be– Well, this is going to be interesting. The
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  Speaker 5: Israelis are now running a text campaign for people 62
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  Speaker 5: and older because they recognize that the older crowd that
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  Speaker 5: watches Fox is more likely to vote in their interest
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  Speaker 5: because they're just hammering them on Fox News all the time.
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  Speaker 5: And I think Hegsap went down there today, and what
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  Speaker 5: he did was counterproductive. But we'll see what happens in
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  Speaker 5: the outcome. Right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's going after Bobart. I hope I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: that right.
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  Speaker 5: Bobart, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Bobart. He's going after Massey. He went after Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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  Speaker 1: These are some of his most staunch supporters over the years.
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  Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson. I'm trying to think of Megan. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if Megan Kelly falls for that. But he's going
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  Speaker 1: after all of these people in a vile way. I
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  Speaker 1: just shake my head.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the logic is questionable. So, well, I will try
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  Speaker 5: to connect with you tomorrow and we'll see what we
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  Speaker 5: know about the Massey outcome and whatever else is rearing
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  Speaker 5: its head.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, they are spending huge sums of money,
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  Speaker 1: unbelievable money to try to defeat this guy who is
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  Speaker 1: really has a great voting record as far as his
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  Speaker 1: conservative vote.
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  Speaker 5: You cannot get anywhere near this kind of fundraising for
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  Speaker 5: a traditional conservative candidate who will vote and fight for
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  Speaker 5: the American agenda. You can't get it. This money doesn't
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  Speaker 5: exist for Republicans. It only exists in this case.
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  Speaker 1: Well, like that guy he knocked off, was it yesterday?
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  Speaker 1: Who was that guy that voted against the president on..
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  Speaker 5: To was it oh that guy i mean yeah he
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  Speaker 5: was a bad guy uh yeah yeah um bill um
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  Speaker 5: yeah yeah yeah he i was great it was great
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  Speaker 5: to see that guy get defeated he was terrible right
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  Speaker 5: why aren't we taking out more of them instead of
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  Speaker 5: massey that's the critical question and the answer is that's
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  Speaker 5: just not what mary madelson decided and she decided kentucky
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  Speaker 5: can't have thomas see I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, I look at this, and I look at what
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  Speaker 1: he's doing to his supporters, to the people that backed him,
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  Speaker 1: and I just don't get it. None of this makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: And you've been spot on. You've been critical of him
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  Speaker 1: when he made that decision about Epstein, and you said
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  Speaker 1: that is a bad decision that he made when he
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  Speaker 1: was going down that road. You thought we should never
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  Speaker 1: have gotten this war in the first place. Now, how
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: do we get out of it, and where do we
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  Speaker 1: go from here? So you were, frankly, if I look
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  Speaker 1: at the G2 track record, you've been spot on on
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  Speaker 1: this stuff. We'll have to talk more about it tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: We're out of time today. So either Tuesday or Wednesday
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  Speaker 1: will be really interesting if we don't know the outcome
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  Speaker 1: of that race or have any indication at this time tomorrow. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, G2. Appreciate it. You're welcome. I look forward
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  Speaker 1: to his comments on all of that stuff. Hey, stay tuned.
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  Speaker 1: Guardians are coming up next. Appreciate you tuning in. Ron
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  Speaker 1: Verp from the Kingdom of Mahoning, NewsRadio 570.
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  Speaker 4: From ABC News.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I'm Mike Dabusky.
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  Speaker 4: Police now say two gunmen are dead who allegedly stormed
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: the Islamic Center of San Diego this afternoon. San Diego
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: Police Chief Scott Wall says all the children who were
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: on site were evacuated and are now safe, but there
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: were adult casualties.
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  Speaker 6: Our hearts go out to the families that are in
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: this moment being notified of what has happened to their
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: loved ones. We have three confirmed adults that are deceased
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: at the Islamic Center.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: An investigation into the shooter's motives is now underway. President
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: Trump writing on social media this afternoon that the U.S.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: will hold off on a planned military attack on Iran
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: that had been scheduled for tomorrow.
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  Speaker 7: That pause, according to the president, is because, quote, serious
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  Speaker 7: negotiations are now taking place and a deal acceptable to
• 39:10
  Speaker 7: the U.S., quote, will be made. Still, the president warned
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: he's asked the Pentagon to prepare for, quote, a full
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: large-scale assault on Iran on a moment's notice. in the
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: event that an acceptable deal is not reached. Karen Travers,
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: ABC News, the White House.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: An American citizen has tested positive for the Ebola virus
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  Speaker 4: and is now being held at a U.S. military base.
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  Speaker 1: In Germany.
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  Speaker 4: That person identified as a medical missionary named Dr. Peter
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Stafford had been working in the Democratic Republic of Congo
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  Speaker 4: where an outbreak of that virus is taking place. ABC
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: News medical correspondent Dr. Darian Sutton has more.
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  Speaker 8: There is no approved vaccine for the current strain that
• 39:45
  Speaker 8: we're seeing circulating in the Democratic Republic of Congo, as
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: well as Uganda, and there's no formal treatment. And that
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: is where the problem comes into play, because without that
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: access to a vaccine and treatment, that makes treating this
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: problem even more difficult. And with limitations in resources, interruptions
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: in aid, for example, the USAID, that leaves many of
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: these people without the needed assistance and increases the risk
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: of death.
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  Speaker 1: From these infections.
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  Speaker 4: Nearly 90 people are suspected to have died from Ebola
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  Speaker 4: in the DRC. And in Oakland, California, Jerry tossed out
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  Speaker 4: Elon Musk's lawsuit against Sam Altman. You're listening to ABC News.