Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / The New Mexico Epstein Commission Interim Report (Part 10) (8/10/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we
- 0:06Speaker 1: left off with the new Mexico interim report on Jeffrey
- 0:11Speaker 1: Epstein's abuse. Jane Do number three, a victim identified as
- 0:16Speaker 1: Jane Do three, provided a victim statement at Maxwell's sentencing hearing,
- 0:20Speaker 1: describing the abuse she suffered on Zoro Ranch in two
- 0:23Speaker 1: thousand and four. Jane Do number three testified in part
- 0:27Speaker 1: on in two thousand and four, when I was fifteen
- 0:29Speaker 1: years old, I flew on Jeffrey Epstein's plane to Zorro Ranch,
- 0:32Speaker 1: where I was sexually molested by him for many hours.
- 0:36Speaker 1: What I remember most vividly was him explaining to me
- 0:39Speaker 1: how beneficial the experience was for me and how much
- 0:42Speaker 1: he was helping me grow. Yikes. I remember feeling so
- 0:46Speaker 1: small and powerless, especially after he positioned me by laying
- 0:49Speaker 1: me on his floor so that I was confronted by
- 0:52Speaker 1: all the frame photographs on his dresser of him smiling
- 0:56Speaker 1: with wealthy celebrities and politicians. After he finished with me,
- 1:00Speaker 1: he told me to describe in detail how good my
- 1:03Speaker 1: first sexual experience felt. That was the first of many
- 1:06Speaker 1: lives I was forced to carry for him, the weight
- 1:08Speaker 1: of which proliferated my trauma. I felt powerless, not merely
- 1:13Speaker 1: because one man wanted to strip me of my innocence,
- 1:16Speaker 1: but because I was a victim of a system that
- 1:19Speaker 1: just disenfranchises human beings, making them vulnerable to periophilic exploitation.
- 1:26Speaker 1: I first identified this feeling the night after I was
- 1:29Speaker 1: molested by Epstein, when another girl and I took out
- 1:32Speaker 1: two ATVs and raced them across the MESA. I crashed
- 1:36Speaker 1: mine and expressed my concern to the other girl of
- 1:38Speaker 1: getting in trouble, which she replied to me, don't worry.
- 1:42Speaker 1: No one gets in trouble for anything here. Jane Doe
- 1:45Speaker 1: number four Jane Dolfor reported that she was sexually abused
- 1:49Speaker 1: on Zoro Ranch. She described having been flown to Zoro Ranch,
- 1:53Speaker 1: which he compared to Disneyland. She wrote that the ranch
- 1:56Speaker 1: had manicured grounds and gurgling fountains, a tennis court, a grass, airstrip,
- 2:01Speaker 1: and hanger. She also wrote that the property had its
- 2:03Speaker 1: own miniature town that housed Epstein's servants and groundskeepers. She
- 2:08Speaker 1: wrote that Epstein called the main house his castle. Change
- 2:11Speaker 1: O four also testified in deposition that she was trafficked
- 2:14Speaker 1: to New Mexico to have sex with Bill Richardson Changdo
- 2:19Speaker 1: number five. Jane Do five alleged in a lawsuit in
- 2:23Speaker 1: the United States District Court of the Southern District of
- 2:25Speaker 1: New York that Epstein took her to Zorro Ranch a
- 2:28Speaker 1: number of times between two thousand and seven and twenty ten,
- 2:32Speaker 1: when she was in her early twenties. She said that
- 2:35Speaker 1: she was coerced there to have sex with Epstein and
- 2:38Speaker 1: his friends. Jane Do five stated that she met Epstein
- 2:42Speaker 1: in New York, where she was an aspiring ballet dancer.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Jane Do five needed money to pay her mother's rent.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Epstein reportedly told her that her opportunities were endless so
- 2:53Speaker 1: long as she complied with his dictates, but that he
- 2:56Speaker 1: could take it all the way from her if she
- 2:58Speaker 1: did Notane five provided Epstein with massages in New York
- 3:03Speaker 1: and soon was doing so on a regular basis. Epstein
- 3:06Speaker 1: took Jane Do five to Little Saint James. Shortly thereafter.
- 3:11Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein forced jangd Do five to engage in sexual
- 3:14Speaker 1: activity with Associate II in his presence for his own
- 3:18Speaker 1: sexual gratification. Eventually, Epstein controlled nearly every aspect of Jane
- 3:23Speaker 1: do Five's life, from the clothing and jewelry she was
- 3:26Speaker 1: permitted to wear, to the career path she was permitted
- 3:29Speaker 1: to follow, to the food she was allowed to consume.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Jando reports that she was made to engage in commercial
- 3:35Speaker 1: sex acts in New York every year from two thousand
- 3:38Speaker 1: and six to twenty twelve, in the Virgin Islands from
- 3:42Speaker 1: two thousand and six to twenty twelve, in Florida from
- 3:45Speaker 1: two thousand and seven to twenty twelve, including as noted
- 3:50Speaker 1: sexual activity while Jeffrey Epstein wore his ankle bracelet, and
- 3:53Speaker 1: in New Mexico between two thousand and seven and twenty ten.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Corroborating evidence reflexologist interview on May fourth, twenty twenty one,
- 4:03Speaker 1: Reflexologists referenced above as Zoro Ranch contractor was interviewed in
- 4:07Speaker 1: connection with sdnwise prosecution of Maxwell. The reflexologists reported that
- 4:14Speaker 1: she performed foot reflexology service for Maxwell and Epstein between
- 4:18Speaker 1: ninety nine and two thousand and eight. The first known
- 4:21Speaker 1: FBI contact with this nine year witness occurred in twenty
- 4:24Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two years after she began working at
- 4:28Speaker 1: Zoro Ranch. A transcript of the interview was made and
- 4:32Speaker 1: is partially redacted. Because the reflexologist name has been redacted,
- 4:36Speaker 1: the Commission has been unable to positively identify her. The
- 4:40Speaker 1: reflexologist had not been previously interviewed by law enforcement investigating Epstein.
- 4:46Speaker 1: The reflexologist was introduced to the FBI by a colleague,
- 4:50Speaker 1: a local psychotherapist who also did massage work for Maxwell.
- 4:55Speaker 1: FBI agents visited the colleague Santa Fe home but did
- 4:58Speaker 1: not find her. The reflexologist agreed to facilitate contact. A
- 5:04Speaker 1: massage therapist working for Epstein, who was also a peer
- 5:07Speaker 1: and a psychotherapist, introduced her to Maxwell, who wanted her
- 5:10Speaker 1: feet worked on. The first treatment she was known to
- 5:13Speaker 1: provide was in nineteen ninety nine and the last one
- 5:16Speaker 1: was in two thousand and eight. The reflexologist did not
- 5:19Speaker 1: go to the ranch regularly, only whenever Epstein was in town,
- 5:23Speaker 1: and in total of approximately thirty times over nine years.
- 5:27Speaker 1: The reflexologists worked primarily on Maxwell and only three known
- 5:30Speaker 1: times on Epstein over the course of nine years. The
- 5:34Speaker 1: reflexologist usually went to the ranch in the evening hours.
- 5:38Speaker 1: She was asked to wait in the kitchen or made quarters.
- 5:41Speaker 1: She usually did work in a room directly off the kitchen,
- 5:44Speaker 1: which she believed to be a library, and more than
- 5:47Speaker 1: once in Maxwell's bedroom. She didn't see much of the house.
- 5:51Speaker 1: The reflexologist stated that her sessions with Maxwell and Epstein
- 5:55Speaker 1: were professional and that she never witnessed any of the
- 5:58Speaker 1: things Epstein was accused of. On one occasion, the reflexologist
- 6:03Speaker 1: saw several young women that were girls, and Maxwell told
- 6:06Speaker 1: her that they were working for the Limited or Victoria's
- 6:09Speaker 1: Secret and that there were just younger girls. These were
- 6:12Speaker 1: the only young women the reflexologists saw the ranch. The
- 6:16Speaker 1: reflexologist estimated the edge of the girls as eighteen or
- 6:19Speaker 1: under and were just young, attractive girls. The reflexologist also
- 6:24Speaker 1: helped train a massage therapist who worked for Epstein and
- 6:27Speaker 1: who appeared to be about eighteen years old and attractive.
- 6:30Speaker 1: In addition, Maxwell asked her for a reference for a
- 6:34Speaker 1: reflexologist in Manhattan. But you have to be attractive. That
- 6:37Speaker 1: was the one thing that disturbed me, that you can't
- 6:40Speaker 1: really be on the property unless you're attractive. The only
- 6:43Speaker 1: thing the reflexologists found inappropriate at the ranch is when
- 6:46Speaker 1: Epstein appeared addressed in nothing but a bathrobe. However, Epstein
- 6:50Speaker 1: was never inappropriate with her and was respectful of her
- 6:53Speaker 1: training and interested to know whether she could train his
- 6:56Speaker 1: massage therapist. At some point, Maxwell or a house keeper
- 7:00Speaker 1: asked a reflexologist to sign a non disclosure agreement, but
- 7:03Speaker 1: she refused to sign it. On subsequent visits to the ranch,
- 7:07Speaker 1: she was asked to sign the non disclosure agreement, but
- 7:10Speaker 1: refused to do so, and eventually decided not to go
- 7:14Speaker 1: back to the ranch after learning of the first arrest.
- 7:17Speaker 1: Testimony that may corroborate survivor accounts of their abuse on
- 7:21Speaker 1: Zoro Ranch include the following Maxwell asked a reflexologist to
- 7:25Speaker 1: recommend a reflexologist for the New York property. Maxwell stated,
- 7:29Speaker 1: you have to be attractive. Young women arrived by aircraft.
- 7:33Speaker 1: On one occasion, while waiting in the kitchen to be
- 7:35Speaker 1: called for a session, the witness observed approximately for young
- 7:39Speaker 1: women arrive escorted by staff. It was the reflexologist understanding
- 7:44Speaker 1: that they arrived by aircraft. They were being driven from
- 7:47Speaker 1: the airport or a helicopter. And I was waiting in
- 7:49Speaker 1: the room off the kitchen when they arrived, as I'm
- 7:52Speaker 1: waiting for Glaine to work on Glane and there were
- 7:55Speaker 1: several young women that were grows that would be there,
- 7:59Speaker 1: and I was only I don't know. The colleague told me,
- 8:01Speaker 1: or Galaane told me that they were working for the
- 8:03Speaker 1: limited or Victoria's Secret and they were just younger girls.
- 8:07Speaker 1: The young women who arrived by aircraft were eighteen or younger.
- 8:11Speaker 1: Asked to estimate their age, the reflexologist dated probably like
- 8:14Speaker 1: eighteen or under, but I never saw someone who looked
- 8:17Speaker 1: like fourteen or fifteen. Epstein asked a reflexologist to teach
- 8:22Speaker 1: young women, described as his massage therapist how to perform reflexology.
- 8:27Speaker 1: The woman was already living in the house and flu
- 8:29Speaker 1: with them between properties. She comes with me. She estimated
- 8:33Speaker 1: her age maybe eighteen. The reflexologists described her as young
- 8:38Speaker 1: attractive girl that sat next to me, who was very
- 8:42Speaker 1: sweet and watching fascinated. Toward the end of the working relationship,
- 8:47Speaker 1: staff attempted to get the reflexologist to sign a non
- 8:50Speaker 1: disclosure agreement with a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars penalty.
- 8:54Speaker 1: They wanted me to sign a contract, saying like a
- 8:56Speaker 1: celebrity contract, like if you see anything going on here,
- 9:00Speaker 1: I have to keep it private. And I refuse to
- 9:02Speaker 1: sign it. The witness cannot recall who specifically presented the NDA,
- 9:06Speaker 1: but she believed it was one of the housekeepers. The
- 9:09Speaker 1: reflexologists specifically recalled the penalty amount. If I did violate
- 9:13Speaker 1: the contract, I'd be sued for two hundred and fifty
- 9:16Speaker 1: thousand dollars. The Reflexologists described Maxwell as managing Epstein's world
- 9:21Speaker 1: in the sense of their home. She would be there
- 9:25Speaker 1: to do trainings with new staff on how to serve guests.
- 9:28Speaker 1: Service had to be exact. If they were at the
- 9:31Speaker 1: dinner table, they had to be served a certain way
- 9:33Speaker 1: from a certain like come to the left. The winners
- 9:36Speaker 1: heard that guests could include a celebrity, though the Reflexologists
- 9:40Speaker 1: never personally saw any guests other than the young woman
- 9:43Speaker 1: described above. Ten thousand waves witness statements indicate that Epstein
- 9:49Speaker 1: recruited massage therapists through a Santa Fe SPA. Ten thousand
- 9:53Speaker 1: waves evidence shows that Epstein and Maxwell's patronage of ten
- 9:57Speaker 1: thousand waves covered a span of at least ten year,
- 10:01Speaker 1: although with that frequency it's not certain. American Express account
- 10:05Speaker 1: statements prepared for Glenn Maxwell show a May twenty third,
- 10:09Speaker 1: two thousand and five, charged to ten thousand waves in
- 10:12Speaker 1: the amount of eight hundred and five dollars and a
- 10:15Speaker 1: June twenty first, two thousand and six charge to ten
- 10:17Speaker 1: thousand waves in the amount of four hundred and seventy
- 10:20Speaker 1: one dollars and twenty three cents. As noted above, the
- 10:23Speaker 1: email dated August eighth, twenty fifteen, Epstein told author and
- 10:28Speaker 1: Kissinger associate executive Joshua Cooper Ramo, a New Mexico native,
- 10:33Speaker 1: that he was going to ten thousand waves. Photographic evidence
- 10:36Speaker 1: the safe. FBI agents searching Epstein's seventy first Street Manhattan
- 10:41Speaker 1: residents found inside a safe in the third four closet
- 10:45Speaker 1: several binders containing sleeves of compact discs, one of which
- 10:48Speaker 1: are labeled with handwriting. The search warrant application describes one
- 10:52Speaker 1: disc is marked young, another disc is marked Nudes, another
- 10:57Speaker 1: is marked Miscellaneous Nudes, yet another is marked Girl Pick nudes.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Some discontain the word ZORO or LSJ. For example, one
- 11:05Speaker 1: disc is marked Zoro picks C's Device catalog. A catalog
- 11:10Speaker 1: was made of contents from Sea's device computer. The first
- 11:13Speaker 1: page lists a folder labeled Zoro, alongside folders labeled ties, Moscow, Girls, Africa,
- 11:20Speaker 1: min nudes yoga girls, Bali, Thailand, Russia book. The geographic
- 11:26Speaker 1: organization of these folders, which are sorted by nationality or region,
- 11:30Speaker 1: is consistent with the trafficking routes documented elsewhere and the
- 11:34Speaker 1: available documentation. The folders do not name by themselves establish
- 11:40Speaker 1: what the folders contained FBI observations. The FBI Albuquerque Tactical
- 11:47Speaker 1: Intelligence Reports states that a contractor likely observed victims in
- 11:51Speaker 1: a room at the ranch and that employees were sworn
- 11:55Speaker 1: to secrecy about property details. On November twenty fifth, twenty nineteen,
- 12:00Speaker 1: Albuquerque radio host Eddie Aragon forwarded an email to the FBI.
- 12:05Speaker 1: The original was sent from an encrypted proton mail account.
- 12:08Speaker 1: On November twenty first, twenty nineteen, someone claiming to be
- 12:12Speaker 1: a former staff at zoro It alleged that two foreign
- 12:16Speaker 1: girls were buried on the orders of Jeffrey and Madam g.
- 12:20Speaker 1: This email is anonymous on verified claim that also demanded
- 12:24Speaker 1: one Bitcoin for a USB drive allegedly containing video footage,
- 12:29Speaker 1: listed specific video descriptions with timestamps, and provided a Bitcoin
- 12:33Speaker 1: wallet address. The sender specified a payment deadline documentation if
- 12:38Speaker 1: any as to whether the FBI investigated the underlying claim
- 12:42Speaker 1: is not available. Separately from twenty nineteen proton email, A
- 12:46Speaker 1: different individual claimed to have trespassed on Zoro Ranch in
- 12:50Speaker 1: twenty twenty and found grave like plots that appeared to
- 12:53Speaker 1: have been excavated. Photos were published by Al Jazeera on
- 12:57Speaker 1: March seventeenth, twenty twenty six This is an unverified, anonymous
- 13:02Speaker 1: claim from a self described trespasser. The March twenty twenty
- 13:05Speaker 1: sixth search using cadaver dogs and ground penetrating radar has
- 13:09Speaker 1: not confirmed the presence of human remains. All right, folks,
- 13:13Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up right here, and in the
- 13:14Speaker 1: next episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up
- 13:17Speaker 1: where we left off. All the information that goes with
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