Latest / The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network / Minicamp Mentality and Motivation | Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, June 13
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- 0:28Speaker 1: Welcome to Jaggs Drive Time with Kaye Stevens Stevens and
- 0:33Speaker 1: John Oser Oser. Jangs Drivetime starts right now.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Welcome to Jags Drivetime. I'm Tai Nannie Stevens. We are
- 0:43Speaker 2: in Mini Camp week. It's not mandatory here in Jacksonville,
- 0:47Speaker 2: so so that's got out of things.
- 0:48Speaker 3: Brian Sexton abandoned us.
- 0:50Speaker 2: It's just John Oser and me here holding down the
- 0:53Speaker 2: fort for you in our final Jags Drive Time before
- 0:56Speaker 2: the summer break, and I think everybody is looking forward
- 0:59Speaker 2: to that break summer already on it as we mentioned,
- 1:02Speaker 2: but we're holding down the fort here on Mini Camp
- 1:04Speaker 2: week and a lot of the rookies and second year players,
- 1:07Speaker 2: there's some of the injured veterans are here as well,
- 1:09Speaker 2: getting a little bit of extra playing time, I guess
- 1:11Speaker 2: during this week. And that's kind of what Doug Peterson
- 1:13Speaker 2: said he wanted to focus on right now, the younger guys.
- 1:16Speaker 4: Yes, it's mandatory for the people who have to be
- 1:20Speaker 4: here right so to speak. Biking News obviously, Josh Allen's here,
- 1:25Speaker 4: Calvin Ridley is here, Dalvin.
- 1:27Speaker 1: I mean Dalvin.
- 1:32Speaker 4: Chad MoMA and Devin Cooker. So Devin Lloyd I'm similar
- 1:37Speaker 4: with that name. Some guys here who they feel like
- 1:41Speaker 4: need that sort of time, need that reps. I think
- 1:44Speaker 4: the linebackers are here for some recognition, just more time
- 1:47Speaker 4: on task.
- 1:49Speaker 1: But Doug said it best, and.
- 1:50Speaker 4: I know we're going to get to the side when
- 1:54Speaker 4: veterans show up for these voluntary things and work the
- 1:59Speaker 4: way there's sposed to. He's not going to force the
- 2:02Speaker 4: issue and to keep him my three or four days
- 2:04Speaker 4: more into the summer.
- 2:05Speaker 1: So absolutely good for him. I like the approach, I.
- 2:07Speaker 3: Think so treating them like adults. We'll hear from Doug
- 2:09Speaker 3: right now.
- 2:09Speaker 2: We'll go over the big things, because the big thing
- 2:11Speaker 2: one is it's summer break early for some of those veterans,
- 2:13Speaker 2: the ones that did show up for OTAs and you know,
- 2:16Speaker 2: showed that they were here ready to go. They got
- 2:18Speaker 2: the week, these three days off because they've been here
- 2:20Speaker 2: for the last couple of weeks. And Doug said it
- 2:22Speaker 2: was really just he saw a great turnout and he
- 2:24Speaker 2: felt like they giving them the extra three days wasn't
- 2:27Speaker 2: too big of a deal.
- 2:29Speaker 5: These three days, you know, where we can really focus
- 2:31Speaker 5: on the young guys and even some of the injured
- 2:35Speaker 5: guys who can get another three days, you know of
- 2:37Speaker 5: of treatment and rehab and just spending time with the
- 2:40Speaker 5: young guys. But the vets have been doing an outstanding job.
- 2:42Speaker 5: They've been here, they've been present, They've done everything that
- 2:46Speaker 5: I've asked him to do, and just felt it was
- 2:49Speaker 5: you know, beneficial for them to get the extra three days.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Big thing number two is Josh Allen's the first we've
- 2:56Speaker 2: seen of him. He did not participate in OTAs he
- 2:58Speaker 2: was working out personally I himself. He was in constant
- 3:01Speaker 2: contact with the coaching staff. So Doug Peterson said, there's
- 3:04Speaker 2: no ill will there at all. He was just excited
- 3:06Speaker 2: to actually see Josh Allen back in the building.
- 3:09Speaker 5: Listen, there's no bad blood or nothing like that. I mean,
- 3:13Speaker 5: guys are entitled to you know, the voluntary program. They
- 3:17Speaker 5: can do what they want to do, and it's just
- 3:19Speaker 5: good to get him back in this building and embrace
- 3:22Speaker 5: him and get him back with you know, his teammates
- 3:25Speaker 5: this week.
- 3:26Speaker 2: And Big thing number three is the new digs because
- 3:29Speaker 2: July first and Miller Electric Center is going to open.
- 3:31Speaker 2: So this mini camp is the last practices we will
- 3:33Speaker 2: see of everybody out on the field here at Tia
- 3:36Speaker 2: Bank and Doug, for one, is very excited to get
- 3:39Speaker 2: into the new Digs, a.
- 3:41Speaker 5: Place that the guys can really I think call home
- 3:45Speaker 5: and even from the standpoint of the off season where
- 3:48Speaker 5: once the season ends, they don't have to go other places. Right,
- 3:51Speaker 5: we're still in Jacksonville, Florida. The weather's good and in February,
- 3:54Speaker 5: March and April, and you know, guys want to stay
- 3:57Speaker 5: here and use the building.
- 4:01Speaker 2: John, we talked a lot about this obviously the last
- 4:03Speaker 2: couple of weeks about you know, whether Doug was going
- 4:05Speaker 2: to cancel mini camp and not making mandatory for other people.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Obviously did it last year, so there was you know,
- 4:10Speaker 2: some precedents out there, and he ended up doing that.
- 4:12Speaker 2: But as we kind of talked about, it's you know,
- 4:15Speaker 2: kind of treating them as adults. Right, you show up
- 4:17Speaker 2: for OTA's, you show you're ready to work. I don't
- 4:19Speaker 2: need to force you to be here for the mandatory portion.
- 4:22Speaker 2: And it's not really punishing anybody else. It's more just,
- 4:25Speaker 2: you know, I want to give extra time to the
- 4:26Speaker 2: people that maybe are younger, or are rehabbing, or I
- 4:29Speaker 2: haven't seen as opposed to people I've seen for the
- 4:31Speaker 2: last three weeks.
- 4:32Speaker 4: Yeah, the angst and teeth gnashing that this caused last
- 4:39Speaker 4: year among fans was off the charts. And I think
- 4:43Speaker 4: the reason people stressed last year Jaywares hadn't been good.
- 4:47Speaker 4: And if you've never been to an OTA practice, I
- 4:50Speaker 4: think you probably maybe don't quite understand what they all think.
- 4:55Speaker 3: It's a little more intense than it probably.
- 4:56Speaker 4: Yeah, they're fine, but these OTA are all mental and.
- 5:02Speaker 1: It's well not all mental. They're out there running around.
- 5:05Speaker 1: But this time is to make sure what coaches want
- 5:11Speaker 1: after OTA's in mini camp. They want to.
- 5:14Speaker 4: Feel like the players are as ready as they can
- 5:17Speaker 4: possibly be for when they walk back in the door
- 5:21Speaker 4: in training camp. And that means two things. That means
- 5:25Speaker 4: mentally and it means physically. At some point during OTA's
- 5:30Speaker 4: coaches get this anxious feeling of you know what I've
- 5:35Speaker 4: gotten through this without getting guys hurt?
- 5:37Speaker 1: How much more do I want to push my luck
- 5:40Speaker 1: as a result paintball last week? You know, with rare exceptions,
- 5:47Speaker 1: get him out of here this week. Look, he played.
- 5:51Speaker 4: He knows how to approach this and very little that
- 5:56Speaker 4: you do. They're not going to win and lose a
- 5:58Speaker 4: super Bowl out here now. On June fifteenth. Doug knows
- 6:02Speaker 4: that get him prepared, get him ready, and make sure
- 6:06Speaker 4: they're ready when it really goes on. And I guess
- 6:09Speaker 4: July twenty sixth he said, yesterday's went up with.
- 6:11Speaker 3: You know, get everybody back in pads on.
- 6:13Speaker 1: Yeah, but when they were on the field for the
- 6:14Speaker 1: first time.
- 6:15Speaker 4: And I love this approach because I think OTA's are overrated,
- 6:19Speaker 4: and I think deep down Doug believes that too.
- 6:20Speaker 3: He definitely does.
- 6:21Speaker 2: And I think a lot of it is just avoiding
- 6:22Speaker 2: a surprise, right, You don't want anybody to come in
- 6:25Speaker 2: on July twenty first or whatever the actual report date is.
- 6:28Speaker 2: I think twenty fifth. You have to be here by
- 6:29Speaker 2: that date. Doesn't want anybody come in there looking completely
- 6:32Speaker 2: out of shape, not ready to go. So I think
- 6:34Speaker 2: it's a little bit of a precursor of Okay, these
- 6:36Speaker 2: are guys are all you know, we're going in the
- 6:38Speaker 2: right way. Everybody's healthy, everybody's ready to go. So when
- 6:40Speaker 2: we do come back for a training camp, we will
- 6:42Speaker 2: hit the ground running and be able to actually put
- 6:45Speaker 2: some effort in, you know, put the pads on, figure
- 6:47Speaker 2: out what's going to go on with.
- 6:48Speaker 3: This team this year. At least in my estimation. That's
- 6:50Speaker 3: what it seems like.
- 6:52Speaker 2: So obviously I'm I encourage having some extra days off
- 6:55Speaker 2: because why not get a little summer break in earlier.
- 6:57Speaker 2: I know some people probably already had vacations plan.
- 7:00Speaker 4: Yeah, Unfortunately, it's not really extra day's for us now,
- 7:02Speaker 4: it's not. I wish that Doug would put in a
- 7:06Speaker 4: clause that.
- 7:07Speaker 2: You're a senior reporter, you'd get the you'd get the
- 7:09Speaker 2: week off. I'm rookie, so I'd have to say.
- 7:11Speaker 1: That's probably true, you would probably be the one here.
- 7:13Speaker 4: Ye. Look, it's it's it's the right way to approach it.
- 7:17Speaker 4: And the biggest thing to remember here, these guys are pros.
- 7:22Speaker 4: Skip OTAs and slack off during this time at your
- 7:28Speaker 4: own peril. And just because people aren't here doesn't mean
- 7:30Speaker 4: they're slacking off. Veterans at some point reached this point
- 7:37Speaker 4: where they feel like they know how to prepare out themselves.
- 7:40Speaker 4: So the Josh Allen issue that Doug sort of I
- 7:46Speaker 4: think did a good job of nipping in the bud yesterday, Yeah,
- 7:49Speaker 4: was never really an issue at all. Veterans of that
- 7:53Speaker 4: status of that time in the league they know how
- 7:57Speaker 4: to prepare and they know what they need to do
- 8:00Speaker 4: to get ready.
- 8:01Speaker 1: I had zero problem with Josh not being here.
- 8:03Speaker 4: I think over time, as players get more comfortable in
- 8:08Speaker 4: the offense and defense, I think you'll see more guys
- 8:10Speaker 4: that do what Josh has done and not train away.
- 8:14Speaker 1: The players who can handle that. Coaches have no problem
- 8:19Speaker 1: with him doing that, and.
- 8:20Speaker 2: That came across loud and clear. Obviously, Doug mentioned that
- 8:23Speaker 2: off the top of the show that they were in
- 8:24Speaker 2: touch with him. There was no issues, they were aware.
- 8:27Speaker 2: He just wanted to see him this week, you know,
- 8:28Speaker 2: because he hadn't seen him so far this off season.
- 8:31Speaker 2: And as Josh allen, we're gonna hear from him in
- 8:34Speaker 2: a little bit coming up. I think a lot of
- 8:36Speaker 2: his focus was just, you know, as we mentioned, OTA's
- 8:38Speaker 2: is kind of, you know, not the most intense thing
- 8:40Speaker 2: in the world, and he really going into a contract
- 8:42Speaker 2: ear wanted to be in the best shape he can
- 8:44Speaker 2: be in and be ready to start the season. So
- 8:47Speaker 2: we'll hear from him in his own words why he
- 8:49Speaker 2: chose to do that. But obviously not a huge factor
- 8:51Speaker 2: because he came in ready to work. He didn't look
- 8:53Speaker 2: you know, sloppy or out of shape or by any
- 8:55Speaker 2: of the means when we saw him yesterday, so he
- 8:57Speaker 2: certainly was putting in the work on his own time.
- 9:00Speaker 2: And then as we did mention for mini camp, these
- 9:02Speaker 2: are the last three practices we're gonna see on the
- 9:05Speaker 2: TAA Bank Field until the new place opens up. And
- 9:08Speaker 2: I'm very excited for that as well. John, What do
- 9:10Speaker 2: you expect for a training camp and we finally get
- 9:12Speaker 2: into the new building.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Well for the.
- 9:14Speaker 4: Players and coaches, it's the first time that's been open
- 9:18Speaker 4: to fans since twenty twenty two, and I'm sorry twenty
- 9:24Speaker 4: twenty one.
- 9:25Speaker 1: As you get to my HKI you lose track.
- 9:27Speaker 3: Yet it's okay, Yeah, you start spin while you won't
- 9:29Speaker 3: go as fast.
- 9:30Speaker 4: So it's gonna be exciting for that. It's it's like
- 9:33Speaker 4: anything when you get a new house. You just moved
- 9:35Speaker 4: into your new place. When you move into a new place,
- 9:37Speaker 4: it's exciting, it's fun. And I think Doug's right in
- 9:42Speaker 4: terms of this new facility for them in the long.
- 9:45Speaker 1: Term, NFL teams.
- 9:49Speaker 4: You need NFL state of the art facilities in this
- 9:52Speaker 4: day and age. The facilities here, the stadium here, as
- 9:55Speaker 4: everybody knows, is it's thirty years old.
- 9:59Speaker 1: You can rehab you can retouch it all you want.
- 10:02Speaker 4: It's still old. This new place is state of the art.
- 10:06Speaker 4: It will attract free agents. And the NFL is the
- 10:10Speaker 4: number one sports league in America.
- 10:13Speaker 1: If you're gonna be in.
- 10:14Speaker 4: It, you need the facilities and you need the infrastructure.
- 10:18Speaker 4: If you will the reflects that. This new place will
- 10:21Speaker 4: reflect that. This new stadium when it happens to reflect
- 10:24Speaker 4: that too. This is about the Jaguars joining the rest of.
- 10:27Speaker 2: The pack, and I think that, you know, it reminds
- 10:29Speaker 2: me of a little bit of college athletics as well.
- 10:30Speaker 2: You build the facilities, they will come. People want to
- 10:33Speaker 2: come to Jacksonville and play now, be part of coaching staff,
- 10:35Speaker 2: whatever it may be. And if you build these facilities,
- 10:38Speaker 2: you build a new stadium, they're gonna be even more
- 10:40Speaker 2: incentivized to do that. Obviously, Doug jokes around a lot
- 10:43Speaker 2: because his office right now and doesn't have a window.
- 10:45Speaker 3: He's gonna have a new window and get to look
- 10:47Speaker 3: out on the practice fields.
- 10:48Speaker 2: But also just the ability for them to spread out
- 10:50Speaker 2: a little bit, because even what he said, I think
- 10:52Speaker 2: they have ninety on the roster right ninety one on
- 10:54Speaker 2: the roster right now, and just watching them practice in
- 10:56Speaker 2: the stadium, they're kind of all on top of each
- 10:58Speaker 2: other as well.
- 10:58Speaker 4: It was a different again. Unfortunately for me, I was
- 11:02Speaker 4: here at ninety five when this place open. The NFL
- 11:05Speaker 4: in ninety five was a different league. You didn't have
- 11:07Speaker 4: as many coaches, you didn't have as much infrastructure on
- 11:10Speaker 4: this side of the building.
- 11:10Speaker 1: When I'm pointing over here, I mean the business side
- 11:14Speaker 1: support staff was not as large.
- 11:18Speaker 4: When I joined the Colts in two thousand and one,
- 11:21Speaker 4: they were only three or four years removed from being
- 11:25Speaker 4: a very very small staff, and it expanded like crazy.
- 11:28Speaker 1: The jaguary. Every team in the league has expanded.
- 11:32Speaker 4: The issue with this place at as you're learning, when
- 11:36Speaker 4: you're in a stadium, there's really no room to expand,
- 11:39Speaker 4: so you've had to sort of expand on top of
- 11:42Speaker 4: each other, if you will. It's not the facility that
- 11:46Speaker 4: they're in and this building are not twenty twenty three
- 11:50Speaker 4: NFL caliber. The facility they're going into is twenty thirty
- 11:55Speaker 4: five NFL counties, and that's what.
- 11:58Speaker 1: You're supposed to do.
- 11:59Speaker 4: Shot is he's done a good job in ten years
- 12:02Speaker 4: of putting NFL caliber things around here. The scoreboards, he
- 12:05Speaker 4: redid the training facility, when he first got here, he
- 12:08Speaker 4: redid this locker room. That's all great, but at some
- 12:14Speaker 4: point you've got to build the foundation in the house.
- 12:17Speaker 1: You can't just redo the rooms.
- 12:19Speaker 2: This is gonna be good for the fans too, because
- 12:21Speaker 2: they will be able to attend training camp this year
- 12:23Speaker 2: and this new grandstands. We got some shade. We have
- 12:26Speaker 2: fans out there, so hopefully you're not completely overheating while
- 12:28Speaker 2: the players are on the field. So enjoyable for them
- 12:31Speaker 2: as well. I'm sure they're excited. I believe July twenty
- 12:34Speaker 2: six might be the first day they're actually out on
- 12:36Speaker 2: the field, so I'm not sure fans are available that day,
- 12:38Speaker 2: but you have to imagine that week we'll be able
- 12:40Speaker 2: to get in there and see it for themselves. It's
- 12:42Speaker 2: a very exciting times. Obviously all the players are excited
- 12:44Speaker 2: to get over there, but we're excited to kind of
- 12:45Speaker 2: see what it looks like for training camp as well.
- 12:48Speaker 2: So coming up, we're gonna hear from Josh Allen and
- 12:50Speaker 2: he explains why he wasn't here for OTAs and why
- 12:53Speaker 2: he's excited to be back. Now stay with us.
- 13:10Speaker 4: It was just like that, you know, it was you know,
- 13:12Speaker 4: I really wanted to focus on myself, farcard, my.
- 13:14Speaker 2: Selfie fall season. The first couple of weeks, it was
- 13:15Speaker 2: definitely hard man like that how tould do it?
- 13:17Speaker 4: But you know, once I got the words from you know,
- 13:20Speaker 4: I called my guys, I called the coaches. They understood
- 13:22Speaker 4: why I was that and what I was doing. So,
- 13:24Speaker 4: you know, once I got that, it.
- 13:25Speaker 3: Was, you know, as he I don't I don't need
- 13:27Speaker 3: to worry about anything else after that.
- 13:30Speaker 2: That's Josh Allen. We are seeing him here for mini
- 13:32Speaker 2: camp the mandatory three days because he's was not here
- 13:36Speaker 2: for OTAs, and by all accounts, everybody was on the
- 13:38Speaker 2: same page with that. Doug Peterson was aware he was
- 13:41Speaker 2: out practicing by himself obviously in the media and sometimes
- 13:44Speaker 2: people like to talk, you know, it's a contract here,
- 13:46Speaker 2: maybe he's holding out what's actually going on. But I
- 13:48Speaker 2: don't think it was anything like that. I think he
- 13:49Speaker 2: was just because it was a contract here, maybe taking
- 13:51Speaker 2: things a little more seriously. He needs to play well
- 13:53Speaker 2: this year if he wants to get a lot of
- 13:55Speaker 2: money when he signs a new deal.
- 13:57Speaker 4: Yeah, this is not unusual for Josh. Josh did essentially
- 14:00Speaker 4: the same thing last year, went to Phoenix stayed here
- 14:07Speaker 4: as well, so alternaged his time between those two places.
- 14:10Speaker 1: He didn't show.
- 14:11Speaker 4: Up last year to the first ay OTAs. This year
- 14:14Speaker 4: he took a little further and stayed away for the
- 14:16Speaker 4: three sotas. He's a very motivated guy, and I'm not
- 14:21Speaker 4: trying to put words in his mouth, but my impression
- 14:23Speaker 4: from talking to our last couple of years, he's looking
- 14:26Speaker 4: for answers and he's trying to get He's a really
- 14:29Speaker 4: good player. In my opinion, he hasn't been great, and
- 14:33Speaker 4: he feels like there's another level there. When Josh is
- 14:36Speaker 4: away and he's working, those decisions are not about staying
- 14:41Speaker 4: away from the team. He's trying to figure out a
- 14:44Speaker 4: way to reach his potential. There's nothing wrong with doing
- 14:48Speaker 4: it here. There's also nothing wrong with looking somewhere else
- 14:51Speaker 4: and trying to find it. I think coaches would have
- 14:54Speaker 4: had a problem if they had thought, well, he's just
- 14:56Speaker 4: staying away because he doesn't come in and work hard.
- 14:58Speaker 4: It's not that he's wanted to works somewhere else. So
- 15:02Speaker 4: it never really the contract thing. My thought, and I
- 15:08Speaker 4: really talked to Josh about this, but in being around him,
- 15:10Speaker 4: I don't know that he really wants to sign a
- 15:12Speaker 4: contract yet, because if they came to him with a
- 15:15Speaker 4: mega deal, sure he'd sign it. But I'm not sure
- 15:19Speaker 4: that he thinks in his mind that he has maximized
- 15:22Speaker 4: his potential yet. I think he thinks there's a lot
- 15:25Speaker 4: more out there, and I think he still feels like, hey,
- 15:29Speaker 4: I can go earn the kind of contract that I want.
- 15:32Speaker 1: That's still out there for him.
- 15:33Speaker 4: So there was that with the decision, but I never
- 15:39Speaker 4: got the impression it was, well, I'm mad at the jag,
- 15:41Speaker 4: so I'm not coming in. That's really not who he
- 15:43Speaker 4: is and that's not his situation right now.
- 15:45Speaker 2: He really does feel like, you know, just like a
- 15:47Speaker 2: man on fire, trying to get the best out of
- 15:50Speaker 2: himself so he can get the most money out of
- 15:52Speaker 2: this deal, because obviously, if you go into a contract
- 15:54Speaker 2: year and you completely show out, you're gonna get rewards
- 15:56Speaker 2: from that, whether that's here or elsewhere on the open market.
- 16:00Speaker 2: And I'm sure that's what his focus is. I don't think,
- 16:02Speaker 2: at least from my interpretation of what he was talking about.
- 16:05Speaker 2: And you know, how the coaching staff has been speaking
- 16:07Speaker 2: to it really doesn't feel like it's an issue between them.
- 16:09Speaker 2: It was just hey, I can go a little more
- 16:11Speaker 2: intense by myself, focus on myself in these three weeks,
- 16:14Speaker 2: and then when I actually get here, I'll be fully
- 16:16Speaker 2: ready to go and be my best, you know, and
- 16:18Speaker 2: work with his teammates. And he was, you know, he
- 16:19Speaker 2: was chopping it up with everybody out there yesterday talking
- 16:21Speaker 2: everybody's He's certainly not having any issues with his teammates
- 16:24Speaker 2: or you guys.
- 16:25Speaker 4: He's a fantastic locker room guy. You never doubt his
- 16:30Speaker 4: will and his effort. And there's no his own question
- 16:33Speaker 4: coming up and him, So I won't burn out everything
- 16:35Speaker 4: I'm gonna say about Josh, but he's trying to figure
- 16:40Speaker 4: out how to get where he wants to go.
- 16:42Speaker 2: Yes, and then we do want to hear from Doug quickly.
- 16:44Speaker 2: He just talked about how he's excited to see Josh
- 16:47Speaker 2: Allen and kind of just see exactly what he's able
- 16:49Speaker 2: to do out there, and said he was honestly just
- 16:52Speaker 2: happy to see him running around this week.
- 16:56Speaker 5: I want to see that leadership, you know, this week
- 16:57Speaker 5: and you know everything that he's he's shown last year
- 17:01Speaker 5: and you know, being a Jaguar now that that enthusiasm
- 17:05Speaker 5: and that excitement to be a part of uh, you know,
- 17:08Speaker 5: be a part of this football team.
- 17:10Speaker 2: And Josh is already in here shouting out half the
- 17:12Speaker 2: rookie squad. He's like, oh, I know Parker Washington, I
- 17:14Speaker 2: know so and so and you know all these guys
- 17:16Speaker 2: that he's excited to work with. So he's certainly showing
- 17:19Speaker 2: that leadership. As you mentioned, he's great with everybody. But
- 17:23Speaker 2: who's someone or not necessarily working with Josh, but who's
- 17:26Speaker 2: someone that can kind of, you know, benefit from this time.
- 17:29Speaker 2: Obviously with some of the veterans gone, you get more
- 17:31Speaker 2: reps for some of these guys that probably wouldn't may
- 17:33Speaker 2: not get his money during training camp.
- 17:35Speaker 3: And everybody's here, well, I.
- 17:36Speaker 4: Think Devin Lloyd and Chad Muma are are benefiting. It
- 17:43Speaker 4: was interesting that Ridley was here. Uh you know, my
- 17:47Speaker 4: sense with that was more they had a plan, I
- 17:51Speaker 4: meaning Calvin rid the wide receiver. Yes, they had a
- 17:53Speaker 4: plan at the very beginning of this to bring Ridley
- 17:57Speaker 4: along the right way. Instance, they probably told him the
- 18:01Speaker 4: very beginning, look, we don't want you going one hundred
- 18:03Speaker 4: percent every practice. So instead of go one hundred percent
- 18:07Speaker 4: of every practice, dial it down. Make sure we don't
- 18:09Speaker 4: get hurt, but we'll have some time at the end
- 18:13Speaker 4: where you're also still here where we're going to make
- 18:16Speaker 4: sure you're ready and with him with the injuries, just
- 18:18Speaker 4: making sure he's a hund percent healthy coming into camp.
- 18:21Speaker 2: I think that was maybe And from what I could
- 18:23Speaker 2: interpret from what Doug was saying, him having access to
- 18:25Speaker 2: you know, the rehab and just having that for the
- 18:28Speaker 2: next couple of days because he wasn't going anywhere.
- 18:30Speaker 3: He's moved to Jacksonville.
- 18:31Speaker 2: He lives here now, and Doug said, you know, just
- 18:33Speaker 2: having him to be able to you know, rehab work
- 18:35Speaker 2: with our staff, just kind of make sure everything is right.
- 18:38Speaker 2: All ducks are in a row so that when we
- 18:39Speaker 2: hit training camp, because I mean, as Calvin said himself,
- 18:41Speaker 2: he needs to kind of be rained back in because
- 18:43Speaker 2: he's ready to, you know, run through a brick wall
- 18:44Speaker 2: at this point since he hasn't been able to play
- 18:46Speaker 2: for so long.
- 18:47Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all about having him ready when it matters.
- 18:50Speaker 4: It's about having everybody ready when it matters. One final
- 18:53Speaker 4: thought on Doug before we move on. Doug wants everybody here.
- 18:59Speaker 4: It's always great and noways here, but he won a
- 19:01Speaker 4: super Bowl in Philly and I haven't gone back, and
- 19:03Speaker 4: I should at some point. I guarantee you not every
- 19:07Speaker 4: veteran was at the OTA's year they won the Super
- 19:09Speaker 4: Bowl in Philly. No, he's been around. He has seen
- 19:12Speaker 4: plenty of cases where guys aren't here during OTAs, aren't
- 19:16Speaker 4: here during the off season, and do fine during the
- 19:18Speaker 4: radio season. People get very been out of shape this
- 19:23Speaker 4: time of year for guys who.
- 19:25Speaker 1: Who are and aren't here.
- 19:27Speaker 4: They were unbelievable been out of Shae when they canceled
- 19:29Speaker 4: Mini camp last year.
- 19:30Speaker 1: Fans were very worried. By September.
- 19:34Speaker 4: Nobody's thinking about these stories, and Doug has the perspective
- 19:37Speaker 4: to know that.
- 19:37Speaker 1: It's why.
- 19:38Speaker 4: Look, he's not even going to fake or hide any
- 19:42Speaker 4: anger toward Josh because there is not, because he's seen
- 19:44Speaker 4: this before.
- 19:45Speaker 2: And we should mention it's voluntary. That's the whole point
- 19:47Speaker 2: is it's optional. You don't have to be here. You
- 19:49Speaker 2: have to be here this week if you know, you
- 19:51Speaker 2: weren't excused. And he is here and he's happy to
- 19:53Speaker 2: be here. And I also think now that you mentioned
- 19:55Speaker 2: that about Doug as well, just kind of springing to
- 19:57Speaker 2: my own mind.
- 19:58Speaker 3: He was a backup quarterback his entire career.
- 20:00Speaker 2: He knows it's valuable to get eyes on some of
- 20:02Speaker 2: these other people and give them a shot to kind
- 20:04Speaker 2: of prove themselves and what they're able to do. And
- 20:06Speaker 2: hopefully this, you know, even just these three couple of
- 20:08Speaker 2: days is able for some of the rookies, second year guys,
- 20:11Speaker 2: injured guys, whoever it is new to the team to
- 20:14Speaker 2: maybe get some extra wraps, show what they can, showcase
- 20:16Speaker 2: what they can do without being clogged up with some
- 20:18Speaker 2: of the other you know, over not over overdone, but
- 20:22Speaker 2: like some of the position groups that there's there's a
- 20:24Speaker 2: lot of talent in there.
- 20:25Speaker 3: Maybe they aren't getting as many reps.
- 20:27Speaker 4: Many viewers probably know where I'm going with this. You're
- 20:31Speaker 4: news to you here for the first time. Do tell
- 20:33Speaker 4: Edrin James, who I covered Indianapolis. You still always famously
- 20:37Speaker 4: say I didn't graduate from the University of Miami, but
- 20:40Speaker 4: I went there long enough to know what voluntary.
- 20:42Speaker 3: It means, smart.
- 20:43Speaker 4: Man, And I'm paraphrasing that, But the point is it
- 20:47Speaker 4: is volunteer, yes, and it's important for people to remember
- 20:50Speaker 4: that it's voluntary for a reason. If you want to
- 20:53Speaker 4: be here, it's fine, you want most people here, but
- 20:55Speaker 4: you're gonna have guys every year who aren't here, and
- 20:57Speaker 4: it's okay.
- 20:58Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 20:58Speaker 2: I think a lot of the young guys are taking
- 21:00Speaker 2: advantage of the opportunity and that's something that we should
- 21:03Speaker 2: look for. On the bright side of things, there's also
- 21:05Speaker 2: a lot of non rookies that are here too. I
- 21:06Speaker 2: think there's thirty plus non rookie guys here that are
- 21:08Speaker 2: just in town and decided to come in and practice
- 21:10Speaker 2: as well. So not to say everybody jumped ship as
- 21:13Speaker 2: soon as they could.
- 21:14Speaker 3: Coming out.
- 21:14Speaker 2: We're gonna do the ozone mail bag and check in
- 21:16Speaker 2: with John on some of the most asked questions that
- 21:19Speaker 2: you sent him to stay with us, Oh, ozone mail bag,
- 21:36Speaker 2: We're gonna get your expertise.
- 21:37Speaker 3: John.
- 21:37Speaker 2: This is our last ozone mail bag before the break,
- 21:40Speaker 2: and we will return in a lot of things will
- 21:42Speaker 2: be different with drivetime.
- 21:43Speaker 1: So yeah, guys, we're on couches.
- 21:46Speaker 2: And apparently we've been made promises about this new place
- 21:50Speaker 2: as well, So.
- 21:50Speaker 1: Be off the hook.
- 21:52Speaker 3: As they used to say, Oh I love that John slang.
- 21:56Speaker 3: This is wonderful. All right, let's start out with question
- 21:58Speaker 3: one for you.
- 21:59Speaker 2: Ryan from Jackson Bell says, we know coach Peterson did
- 22:02Speaker 2: what he did with Carson Wentz in year two.
- 22:04Speaker 3: How much better can Trevor be than Wentz?
- 22:07Speaker 4: Well, I've got this question a couple of times, and
- 22:12Speaker 4: I'm not sure we have to compare him to Carson Wentz.
- 22:14Speaker 4: I mean, I think right now the sky's the limit
- 22:17Speaker 4: for Trevor. This has been sort of a year long
- 22:21Speaker 4: topic for Doug Peterson since he got here. All last
- 22:24Speaker 4: year he continually talked about how the offense was going
- 22:27Speaker 4: to be better. There's gonna be a lot of room
- 22:29Speaker 4: for growth, for growth with Trevor in the second year
- 22:32Speaker 4: in this system. I'm not sure we need to put
- 22:36Speaker 4: any limits on how good he can be this year.
- 22:40Speaker 4: I don't know if it's reasonable. I think he can
- 22:43Speaker 4: get to Mahomes level. I think this is the year
- 22:46Speaker 4: that you watch for signs that he can get into
- 22:48Speaker 4: that group of Josh Allen, of Joe Burrow, of Patrick Mahomes.
- 22:57Speaker 4: I think he's going to ascend to there at some point,
- 23:00Speaker 4: and I think this will be the year he makes
- 23:02Speaker 4: the biggest jump toward that Wentz was off the charts
- 23:05Speaker 4: good in Philly for a lot of the reasons that
- 23:07Speaker 4: this reader is moving toward meaning a year in the system,
- 23:11Speaker 4: everybody knows each other, he knows how to act in
- 23:16Speaker 4: Peterson's system. Now, I think Trevor will benefit from that
- 23:19Speaker 4: and then doubly benefit from the fact that he is in.
- 23:21Speaker 1: A lead talent.
- 23:23Speaker 2: It's hard to remember, but Carson Wentz did have that
- 23:25Speaker 2: really great year and was very, very talented, very different now,
- 23:29Speaker 2: but he was certainly able to thrive there at that point,
- 23:33Speaker 2: but until he got injured. And I think with Trevor,
- 23:36Speaker 2: he's just so talented, right, so the sky is the
- 23:37Speaker 2: limit for him, and obviously working with Doug will help
- 23:42Speaker 2: him get to that point, but I'm not going to
- 23:44Speaker 2: put any limits on where he can go at this point.
- 23:45Speaker 4: Yeah, the biggest thing with Trevor, and we've talked about
- 23:48Speaker 4: all of season, he hit high points last year where
- 23:54Speaker 4: he was as good as any quarterback playing. His task
- 23:58Speaker 4: this year is to eliminate the inconsistency and be more
- 24:01Speaker 4: consistent hear those high points more that not coincidentally, is
- 24:07Speaker 4: what is what you expect from a year two player
- 24:11Speaker 4: in a system. A lot of the rough edges should
- 24:14Speaker 4: be a lot smooth this year, which should have him
- 24:16Speaker 4: looking more and more like one of those top three
- 24:19Speaker 4: or four.
- 24:19Speaker 2: Guys, and when you get that consistency, seeing the team
- 24:22Speaker 2: how they play around somebody like that. I'm sure when
- 24:24Speaker 2: you're in Indianapolis when you have Peyton Manning, you go
- 24:26Speaker 2: out that you know what you're getting, so you're like, oh,
- 24:29Speaker 2: we got that, so we can do right, do our
- 24:30Speaker 2: own thing. The way that the team adapts to that
- 24:32Speaker 2: when you have a consistent, talented quarterback is it's cool
- 24:36Speaker 2: to watch it happen. So I think with a little
- 24:38Speaker 2: bit of time, obviously still young, when he gets to
- 24:40Speaker 2: that point, it's going to be really cool.
- 24:41Speaker 1: To see what finds the franchise.
- 24:43Speaker 3: Absolutely it does.
- 24:45Speaker 2: Question two for you today is going to be JT
- 24:47Speaker 2: from the Palm Coast. Do you see us getting the
- 24:50Speaker 2: stadium that is rendered? Obviously we've seen all those images.
- 24:53Speaker 3: Looks beautiful.
- 24:54Speaker 2: It seems like there has been some reluctance with the
- 24:56Speaker 2: taxpayers so far.
- 24:58Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I do think they will get it,
- 25:03Speaker 4: or that the general concept that was introduced last week,
- 25:09Speaker 4: I do think will get approved, and I think it
- 25:13Speaker 4: will be, you know, in the same ballpark as what
- 25:17Speaker 4: we've seen. When you build something, there are changes along
- 25:21Speaker 4: the way and it's not going to be finished until
- 25:23Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight, I think, or twenty twenty twenty seven
- 25:28Speaker 4: for twenty twenty eight, so it's five years. So is
- 25:31Speaker 4: it gonna look exactly like the drawing? Probably not, But
- 25:34Speaker 4: is it going to be state of the art and
- 25:36Speaker 4: I would say like a spaceship.
- 25:37Speaker 1: Probably.
- 25:39Speaker 4: And as far as reluctance with the taxpayers, if you
- 25:42Speaker 4: studied these things, there's always reluctance with the taxpayers and
- 25:45Speaker 4: things like this, meaning there is always going to be
- 25:50Speaker 4: contentious discussion when you were talking about a professional sports
- 25:55Speaker 4: and public money. It's the nature of the beast. There
- 25:59Speaker 4: can be people who don like it, there are people
- 26:01Speaker 4: who are for it. So yeah, there's going to be
- 26:03Speaker 4: reluctance from some taxpayers.
- 26:06Speaker 1: I think.
- 26:07Speaker 4: I think city leaders and the people who see a
- 26:10Speaker 4: vision for this town and for this team for the
- 26:12Speaker 4: future will agree that to paraphrase Mark Lamping, the Jaguars
- 26:18Speaker 4: are good for Jacksonville, and jackson was good for the Jaguars,
- 26:20Speaker 4: and in order to have that be the thing for
- 26:22Speaker 4: the next thirty thirty five years, this needs to happen.
- 26:25Speaker 1: I think city leaders realize that.
- 26:27Speaker 2: As we mentioned, even with the Miller Electric Center, it's
- 26:29Speaker 2: it's easy to get behind quickly with the NFL because
- 26:32Speaker 2: of the way things adapt and there are only thirty
- 26:34Speaker 2: two NFL teams. If you want to have one of them,
- 26:36Speaker 2: you need to adapt along with it. And as you mentioned,
- 26:40Speaker 2: it's great. This is where they want to be. This
- 26:41Speaker 2: is where they're choosing to develop. They want to develop
- 26:43Speaker 2: around the stadium. There are plans in place. It's not
- 26:46Speaker 2: just like, hey, let's put this giant stadium here and
- 26:47Speaker 2: put nothing around it. They want to kind of develop
- 26:49Speaker 2: and turn downtown into something where people come even in
- 26:52Speaker 2: the off season to you know, hang out into other
- 26:54Speaker 2: activities there.
- 26:56Speaker 4: It's been a long time coming. I'm I'm from here
- 27:00Speaker 4: as most people know. I remember what it was before
- 27:03Speaker 4: the Jaguars. I've seen downtown. I've worked downtown for you know,
- 27:06Speaker 4: the last twelve years, five years in the nineties. This
- 27:11Speaker 4: is the chance for the city to transform downtown and
- 27:14Speaker 4: I believe it'll happen, and I hope.
- 27:16Speaker 2: It'll have All those town halls are available as well.
- 27:18Speaker 2: We have lists online. You guys can check it out
- 27:20Speaker 2: if you want to go and hear a little bit
- 27:21Speaker 2: more details about the plans, what exactly that is going
- 27:24Speaker 2: to involve. So we'll keep you up to date on
- 27:26Speaker 2: all of that stuff. Now, question three for you, John
- 27:28Speaker 2: is going to be Shanghai Stevie from Jacksonville, he says.
- 27:32Speaker 2: Josh Allen love him, but based on what I'm seeing
- 27:36Speaker 2: or not seeing, he says, I'd bet he's not in
- 27:38Speaker 2: the long term plans.
- 27:40Speaker 3: Do you have any insight on that?
- 27:41Speaker 1: Well, I think that plays out this year. I mean it's.
- 27:45Speaker 4: It's going to be a topic all year. He hasn't
- 27:47Speaker 4: signed a long term contract. They have a franchise tag
- 27:51Speaker 4: available for him if they choose to use it. After
- 27:54Speaker 4: this season, he's going into free agency.
- 27:57Speaker 1: You know.
- 27:58Speaker 4: I think both Josh and the team realize this decision
- 28:03Speaker 4: will probably be made this year. If he has a
- 28:06Speaker 4: monster year and it is an elite pass rusher, it's
- 28:10Speaker 4: awfully hard not to try to resign him. If he doesn't,
- 28:14Speaker 4: I can see the Jaguars being in sort of a
- 28:16Speaker 4: no man's land situation. And what I mean by that is,
- 28:19Speaker 4: I think Josh is the best defensive player they have.
- 28:23Speaker 4: Watching this team last year, the one guy on defense
- 28:26Speaker 4: that you held your breath when he was down and
- 28:30Speaker 4: maybe a little bit hurt is you didn't want to
- 28:32Speaker 4: lose this guy. He hasn't been a huge SAT guy,
- 28:35Speaker 4: but if you don't have him, you lose a lot
- 28:37Speaker 4: that you're looking to replace. So I don't know. I
- 28:40Speaker 4: don't know if he's in the long term plans. I
- 28:43Speaker 4: think it's a topic and I think it plays out
- 28:46Speaker 4: this year. And I usually have a gut I don't
- 28:50Speaker 4: really have a gut on Josh. I hope he's here.
- 28:53Speaker 1: I really like the guy.
- 28:54Speaker 2: I think so too, and I think they want him.
- 28:55Speaker 2: I think if he has a monster year, it might
- 28:57Speaker 2: be even harder to keep him, just because money wise,
- 28:59Speaker 2: I mean, if he goes out and shows out, he's
- 29:02Speaker 2: gonna want the highest dollar. And as we mentioned, we're
- 29:04Speaker 2: getting into the years where you're gonna have to give
- 29:07Speaker 2: Trevor a lot of money. You're gonna have to give
- 29:09Speaker 2: some of these other guys a lot of money. Is
- 29:10Speaker 2: there enough money to go around at this point?
- 29:12Speaker 1: Well, the I don't know.
- 29:15Speaker 4: With Trevor's contract, if they redo it next year, the
- 29:18Speaker 4: cap number for the first couple of years probably won't
- 29:21Speaker 4: be astronomical.
- 29:22Speaker 1: So because you structure it and then you kick a
- 29:24Speaker 1: lot of money out.
- 29:25Speaker 4: That's the way they did Mahomes, That's the way they
- 29:26Speaker 4: do most of these big quarterbacks. The intriguing thing about
- 29:29Speaker 4: Josh is if he were to hit, if he were
- 29:32Speaker 4: to have hit free agency this year, he's probably the
- 29:35Speaker 4: highest paid player on the market now, and some fans
- 29:38Speaker 4: when they hear that, can't grasp it. But if other
- 29:43Speaker 4: teams are looking at him, they're looking at a guy
- 29:45Speaker 4: who is rarely hurt. He was hurt one year and
- 29:48Speaker 4: missed half the season. Beyond that, he's always there, he
- 29:51Speaker 4: always practices, he's very reliable, great locker room guy, physical specimen,
- 29:56Speaker 4: he has some numbers and he's very very good, except
- 29:58Speaker 4: his sacked.
- 29:59Speaker 1: Numbers aren't aren't up there.
- 30:00Speaker 4: He would be really highly paid if he has huge sacks,
- 30:04Speaker 4: he's going to be he will if he has a
- 30:07Speaker 4: huge sack year and the Jaguars don't resign him, he
- 30:11Speaker 4: will be one of the biggest free agents hit the
- 30:12Speaker 4: market in years.
- 30:13Speaker 1: So it's an intriguing situation.
- 30:16Speaker 2: We'll have to see how it plays out. We can
- 30:17Speaker 2: play prognosticator, but we don't really know these things, so
- 30:19Speaker 2: we'll try to figure it out for you. But at
- 30:21Speaker 2: this point, we're just happy to see Josh Allen back
- 30:23Speaker 2: in the building. He's happy to be back in the building,
- 30:24Speaker 2: and we still got one more year at the very least,
- 30:27Speaker 2: so we'll see what he's able to do production wise
- 30:29Speaker 2: this season.
- 30:30Speaker 3: All right, stay with us.
- 30:30Speaker 2: We'll give you a little bit of preview what's going
- 30:32Speaker 2: to go off for the rest of the week and
- 30:34Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks as well. Summer Move the Freight,
- 30:46Speaker 2: Move the Freight. Magellan Transport voted coolest office space in Jacksonville.
- 30:49Speaker 2: You can apply online at www dot Magellanlogistics dot com. So,
- 30:56Speaker 2: as we mentioned, it's minichampweek, not mandatory for everybody, but
- 30:59Speaker 2: some of us are here and there are two more
- 31:01Speaker 2: days of practice for the rookie, second year players, injured veterans,
- 31:04Speaker 2: anybody else that just wanted to show up and work out,
- 31:07Speaker 2: and then there's summer break. It really does feel like
- 31:09Speaker 2: the last couple of days of school, at least for me.
- 31:12Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh, it's certainly our summer break, and for
- 31:17Speaker 4: the players it's really I think fans sometimes lose sight
- 31:22Speaker 4: when these guys come back in in March. Uh, they're
- 31:26Speaker 4: here and they're not working full days. We're working pretty hard,
- 31:31Speaker 4: so this is sort of that last time they have
- 31:34Speaker 4: until they start packing up the uh the locker.
- 31:39Speaker 1: Room after the season.
- 31:40Speaker 4: So it's their summer break and they're encouraged to get
- 31:42Speaker 4: away and and.
- 31:44Speaker 1: And be smart. Yes, as my coach always us to
- 31:47Speaker 1: say in high school, don't be a statistic.
- 31:48Speaker 3: Oh I like that.
- 31:49Speaker 2: Don't be dumb, be smart. On vacation, have some fun.
- 31:52Speaker 2: We're gonna work on We're working on some cool stuff.
- 31:54Speaker 2: We went to Trayvon Walker's hometown a couple of weeks ago,
- 31:57Speaker 2: so I think that story is gonna come out, John,
- 31:59Speaker 2: you have a piece of it. We did some video obviously,
- 32:01Speaker 2: talk to his family. It's so interesting to see where
- 32:04Speaker 2: people are actually from originally and kind of see how
- 32:06Speaker 2: they've become who they are. And small town, Georgia is
- 32:09Speaker 2: where Trayvon is from, Thomaston. We're there for a couple
- 32:12Speaker 2: of days and just kind of see how his community.
- 32:14Speaker 2: They sure love them some Trayon Walker, that's for sure.
- 32:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 32:18Speaker 4: The town has tremendous pride in him, and I think
- 32:20Speaker 4: it goes both ways. And it was interesting to talk
- 32:24Speaker 4: to Trayvon. He's a quiet guy, as you know, Kay,
- 32:27Speaker 4: but when he speaks, he has a lot to say.
- 32:31Speaker 4: And I think people will enjoy your piece that you
- 32:33Speaker 4: did with him, and I think they'll tolerate mine.
- 32:36Speaker 2: Oh you're so harsh on yourself, John, I love it
- 32:40Speaker 2: all right. As always, we thank you for tuning in
- 32:43Speaker 2: with us. We will be back closer to training Camp
- 32:47Speaker 2: kicks off. Report date is the twenty fifth. Everybody has
- 32:49Speaker 2: to be in here. Twenty six is the first day
- 32:51Speaker 2: of practice. We'll be back with you. You'll have a
- 32:53Speaker 2: lot of new changes, a lot of new stuff come
- 32:54Speaker 2: in your way. So thank you as always for joining us,
- 32:56Speaker 2: and we'll see you soon.
- 33:02Speaker 4: A