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- 0:03Speaker 1: Welcome into the Jaguars Reporters Podcast, Week fifteen, JP, Shadwick,
- 0:07Speaker 1: Bryan Sexton, Kai Stevens, Glad you're with us today. And
- 0:11Speaker 1: the Jaguars are coming off back to back losses in
- 0:14Speaker 1: the AFC North, trying to figure some things out, and
- 0:18Speaker 1: a tough week to figure them out against the number
- 0:20Speaker 1: one seed, the Baltimore Ravens come to town. The game
- 0:22Speaker 1: presented by Publics where shopping is a pleasure on Sunday
- 0:25Speaker 1: night football. Before we get to that one, and we will,
- 0:28Speaker 1: there's plenty to talk about the Ravens game, But Kai,
- 0:32Speaker 1: I mean, the Jags are seven points different the last
- 0:36Speaker 1: two weeks combined. I mean, they're in these games, but
- 0:39Speaker 1: just little mistakes, blown coverage here or there, and this
- 0:43Speaker 1: field goal you can't get over the top. It's one thing.
- 0:45Speaker 1: If it's not one thing, it's the next thing, Kai, And.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Which is kind of scary to think if either of
- 0:50Speaker 2: these teams had their starting quarterbacks or like their original rosters,
- 0:53Speaker 2: what those game scores would have been. Because we're losing
- 0:55Speaker 2: to you know, four string quarterback Joe Flacco and Jake Brownings,
- 1:00Speaker 2: so that's not super promising. And I think part of
- 1:03Speaker 2: what at least for me, has been troubling is you know,
- 1:06Speaker 2: we felt like they were kind of underperforming all year,
- 1:08Speaker 2: and they were very fortunate to not have any health injuries,
- 1:10Speaker 2: and they were kind of underperforming. And now they have
- 1:13Speaker 2: a lot of injuries to deal with, and that's not
- 1:15Speaker 2: uncommon for this time of the year, but they all
- 1:17Speaker 2: did pretty much come on Monday Night football, and now
- 1:20Speaker 2: the adjustments to not only are you making some of
- 1:23Speaker 2: the same mistakes you meete early in this season, now
- 1:25Speaker 2: you don't have a lot of the guys that used
- 1:26Speaker 2: to have that maybe covered up some of the other issues.
- 1:28Speaker 2: So I think it's all kind of coming together at
- 1:30Speaker 2: the same time, and they're trying to figure out multiple
- 1:32Speaker 2: issues on the team right now.
- 1:34Speaker 3: I get it. But I watched the Titans and Dolphins
- 1:36Speaker 3: on Monday Night, and there was no reason that the Titans,
- 1:38Speaker 3: with a rookie quarterback with one of the worst offensive
- 1:41Speaker 3: lines in football. It's only been you know, worse, I
- 1:45Speaker 3: guess in recent weeks because of injuries. There's no reason
- 1:50Speaker 3: why and without their best defensive player that they should win.
- 1:53Speaker 3: There's no reason why the Eagles, who are relatively healthy,
- 1:56Speaker 3: should get blown out in back to back weeks, nor
- 1:58Speaker 3: the Chiefs, who are my on to seven in the
- 2:00Speaker 3: turnover ratio, should lose to Jordan Love and you know,
- 2:05Speaker 3: and a Bills team that's underperformed all year two. This
- 2:08Speaker 3: league is just so close. So things have gone badly
- 2:10Speaker 3: the last two weeks, but you're a miss field goal
- 2:12Speaker 3: from being tied for the second best record in the
- 2:15Speaker 3: league despite not having played well. And know, by the way,
- 2:17Speaker 3: Christian Kirk has played one play in the last two games,
- 2:20Speaker 3: and your quarterback has been injured for most of one
- 2:22Speaker 3: of those games, and you've scored fifty eight points. So
- 2:25Speaker 3: it looks terrible, but it's not that far from being good.
- 2:29Speaker 3: It's just the way it is in the NFL in
- 2:31Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. There aren't any great teams.
- 2:34Speaker 1: It's a weird year, that's what it is. And nobody's
- 2:36Speaker 1: really blowing everybody out of the water. Everybody's kind of
- 2:39Speaker 1: come back down to earth a little bit, you know.
- 2:42Speaker 1: But let's get to a little bit of this offense
- 2:45Speaker 1: and how it looks right now, because without Christian Kirk,
- 2:48Speaker 1: you're leaning obviously on Evan Ingram, and that's probably a
- 2:51Speaker 1: good thing. He's playing very well. But hey, Calvin Ridley,
- 2:56Speaker 1: from most accounts, is sometimes running the wrong way. Trevor's
- 3:00Speaker 1: not expecting him to go a certain way and the
- 3:02Speaker 1: ball's going the other way and either it's picked off
- 3:05Speaker 1: or it's incomplete or that in week fifteen is concerning
- 3:09Speaker 1: for me at least.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Ka it's concerning, and it's especially concerning when you talk
- 3:13Speaker 2: about Christiankirk being out because you need everybody else to
- 3:15Speaker 2: step up, and Calvin Ridley, who's someone you were very
- 3:17Speaker 2: excited about getting on this team, and Trent Lawrence don't
- 3:19Speaker 2: seem to be on the same page. Maybe that's because
- 3:21Speaker 2: they didn't have practice together last week, but as you mentioned,
- 3:23Speaker 2: we're almost at the end of the season, so they
- 3:26Speaker 2: should have a chemistry to some degree down of understanding
- 3:29Speaker 2: what these players are going to be. I've been really
- 3:31Speaker 2: impressed with Parker Washington. He's kind of gotten thrown into
- 3:33Speaker 2: the fire. Obviously, when Jamal Agnew went out, he went
- 3:35Speaker 2: in to return kicks and punts mostly punts right now,
- 3:39Speaker 2: and then now with Christian Kirk out, he's kind of
- 3:41Speaker 2: filling in that role. Obviously, there's a lot he does
- 3:44Speaker 2: not know, but I feel like what he does know
- 3:46Speaker 2: he's very good at and he's showing those flashes, and
- 3:49Speaker 2: I'm hoping that he'll continue to progress this he gets
- 3:52Speaker 2: more playing time.
- 3:53Speaker 3: I'm confused because all we've heard the last two weeks
- 3:55Speaker 3: there are communication issues. Right against the Bengals, it was
- 3:58Speaker 3: all on defense, and against the Browns it was mostly
- 4:00Speaker 3: on offense. Although you can point to a couple of
- 4:03Speaker 3: breakdowns communication wise on the big plays that the Browns guy.
- 4:06Speaker 3: And this is a fairly talented team. I say fairly right,
- 4:10Speaker 3: I mean they're pretty talented and they're pretty well coached,
- 4:13Speaker 3: and so you should get to this point of the season.
- 4:15Speaker 3: You shouldn't be able to go, well, we didn't communicate,
- 4:17Speaker 3: it was too loud, or you know, we had some breakdowns.
- 4:21Speaker 3: You should be able to have a basic level of communication.
- 4:25Speaker 3: And like Ki said, quarterback didn't play last week. Our
- 4:28Speaker 3: pardon me, didn't practice last week, and that does impact
- 4:31Speaker 3: the play and he was a bit off, whether it
- 4:33Speaker 3: was the ankle or the lack of practice. They got
- 4:35Speaker 3: to get the communication issues fixed. And while we're on that,
- 4:38Speaker 3: they got to figure out how to run the ball
- 4:39Speaker 3: on third down. Right, it's third and one, your own
- 4:42Speaker 3: fifteen yard line. Two plays into the fourth quarter, down
- 4:45Speaker 3: twenty one to fourteen. You got to take a deep shot.
- 4:47Speaker 3: Come on, Yeah, I mean you got to be able
- 4:49Speaker 3: to run the ball on third down and one, and
- 4:52Speaker 3: you can't do that. They're not good at it. They
- 4:55Speaker 3: don't have any confidence in it. But I'm telling you what,
- 4:58Speaker 3: you have a quarterback with a brace on one knee
- 5:00Speaker 3: and now he's going to have a store ankle the
- 5:02Speaker 3: rest of the year. That's just the way it is.
- 5:04Speaker 3: If you're completely one dimensional, if you won't even try
- 5:06Speaker 3: to run the ball right, or if you're so ineffective
- 5:09Speaker 3: the traves etn on six of his fourteen carries will
- 5:12Speaker 3: stop for one yard or less six times in fourteen tries,
- 5:16Speaker 3: you got a problem. They've got to figure out who
- 5:19Speaker 3: or what gets third down and two across the line
- 5:23Speaker 3: to continue drives.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Yeah, especially this week coming up. If all of a sudden,
- 5:27Speaker 1: you're not able to run and your one dimensional, and
- 5:30Speaker 1: you're third and six and you know second and long, and.
- 5:33Speaker 3: You're going the same defense you got last week.
- 5:35Speaker 1: They got the most sacks in the league yet forty nine.
- 5:37Speaker 1: They're spreading it out. I mean, they know what they're
- 5:39Speaker 1: doing in Baltimore, So plenty ahead, we're back in a moment.
- 5:42Speaker 1: We'll get into this Ravens Jaguars matchup a little bit
- 5:45Speaker 1: more on Sunday Night Football. This is Jaguars Reporters. Welcome
- 5:53Speaker 1: back to the Jaguars Reporters Podcast. Jap, Shadwick, Ty Stevens,
- 5:56Speaker 1: Bryan Sexton, Week fifteen Sunday Night Football. First time the
- 6:00Speaker 1: Jaguars GUI have been on Sunday Night Football since two
- 6:03Speaker 1: thousand and eight.
- 6:04Speaker 3: Look at all these first we have this year.
- 6:05Speaker 2: It's fun. First in a whiles, I should say, yeah, first.
- 6:08Speaker 1: In a long, long, long, long time.
- 6:11Speaker 3: You should have been here ninety five with everything was new.
- 6:14Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you were it. At some point you're like,
- 6:15Speaker 3: please no more right, Hey, that's the first punt return.
- 6:20Speaker 3: Hey that's the first fumble. Please don't Did you.
- 6:22Speaker 1: Do it every time when the game was called it?
- 6:24Speaker 3: It was a bad team. The first thing was it
- 6:27Speaker 3: was a four to twelve team, so you were riding the.
- 6:30Speaker 1: First reminds me of having a sponsor foul balls on
- 6:33Speaker 1: baseball broadcast. That's the worst. That's foul ball A sponsored
- 6:36Speaker 1: by this glass company. It's a fifteen pitch at bat
- 6:40Speaker 1: all right. So the Ravens are coming in and they
- 6:42Speaker 1: are the number one seed. The Dolphins lost inexplicably, as
- 6:46Speaker 1: you talked about on Monday night. So hey, the Ravens,
- 6:49Speaker 1: not that they needed any motivation, guy, but now they
- 6:52Speaker 1: are the number one seed. They are in front of
- 6:54Speaker 1: everybody in the AFC with four to go. Their schedules
- 6:58Speaker 1: really difficult ahead. But this is a really talented team
- 7:02Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. They're playing the best football
- 7:04Speaker 1: in the AFC.
- 7:05Speaker 2: It feels like this season, a lot of teams they
- 7:08Speaker 2: go on runs, right and the Ravens are on one
- 7:11Speaker 2: of their runs right now. They're playing some of their
- 7:13Speaker 2: best football. Earlier in the season, they had some issues
- 7:16Speaker 2: on offense, trying to communication and all those things get
- 7:18Speaker 2: but they seem to be in a better place with
- 7:20Speaker 2: that now and that's scary to see, especially with where
- 7:23Speaker 2: the Janiguars are at and trying to figure things out.
- 7:26Speaker 2: But as we know, anything can happen any week. So
- 7:29Speaker 2: I tried to I thought, I know what we would
- 7:31Speaker 2: sayemday night football, and we saw like the complete opposite,
- 7:34Speaker 2: like a shootout between like Jake Browning.
- 7:36Speaker 3: And you don't want to get too analytical on this thing,
- 7:39Speaker 3: because your analysis, which is based on what you know
- 7:42Speaker 3: it won't be that red. Yeah. I mean the kids
- 7:43Speaker 3: all say, yeah, come on. I'll tell you. I've seen
- 7:47Speaker 3: some Ravens and they're good. They're a better team, and
- 7:50Speaker 3: they're playing better right now. And that's not a good
- 7:51Speaker 3: formula for this team. But I watched the Titans score
- 7:55Speaker 3: two touchdowns in four minutes against the Dolphins, and I
- 7:58Speaker 3: get it, Tyreek Hill was out. Okay, well, what if
- 8:01Speaker 3: say Flowers gets hurt? Right? I mean, you don't know
- 8:04Speaker 3: what's gonna happen on Sunday night. My expectation is is
- 8:07Speaker 3: that they will come out and they will play well
- 8:12Speaker 3: because they've played okay the last couple of weeks, but
- 8:16Speaker 3: turnovers or the inability to get pressure on Browning, I mean,
- 8:19Speaker 3: they lost by his combined seven points. As you mentioned,
- 8:21Speaker 3: they're not that far from being able to steal a win.
- 8:25Speaker 3: And that's probably what it is on Sunday, is you
- 8:27Speaker 3: steal a win. I'm telling you, I watched the Eagles
- 8:31Speaker 3: the last two weeks and thought, what, what, where's their defense?
- 8:35Speaker 1: Right?
- 8:36Speaker 3: Doug Peterson told us on Monday there is time for
- 8:40Speaker 3: his team to play good football left. There's only four
- 8:43Speaker 3: games left, but he believes there's time for them. Sunday
- 8:47Speaker 3: would be a good opportunity to get that thing rolling again.
- 8:50Speaker 3: If you win, you're right there with the Dolphins, right
- 8:55Speaker 3: then you'd be right there with the you know, with
- 8:56Speaker 3: the Ravens. A game back of both of those two teams.
- 9:00Speaker 3: Tas with three games to play.
- 9:02Speaker 1: Okay, they've been in pretty much every game. They've hung
- 9:05Speaker 1: with good teams, even when they haven't played a complete game.
- 9:08Speaker 1: They still haven't played that complete All three phases are
- 9:12Speaker 1: working at highest capacity game yet. Yeah, you're right, this
- 9:16Speaker 1: would be a good week to start that. The injuries
- 9:18Speaker 1: are a question though, and kay, the list is long.
- 9:21Speaker 1: It's good news on the offensive line though, Walker Little
- 9:23Speaker 1: could be back on the field this week. We'll see,
- 9:26Speaker 1: I mean, as a Cleveland got through his knee injury. Okay,
- 9:28Speaker 1: it sounds like, so let's see the status of the
- 9:31Speaker 1: left side of the line, which has been in flux
- 9:33Speaker 1: now really for most of the season.
- 9:35Speaker 2: It's the line, and it's the secondary that worries me too,
- 9:38Speaker 2: because I mean, the secondary was having some of their
- 9:41Speaker 2: own issues when they were healthy. And now you know,
- 9:44Speaker 2: Tyson Campbell out for however long, we don't know, Trey
- 9:47Speaker 2: Herndon still in the protocol. One good thing Antonio Johnson's
- 9:51Speaker 2: been getting some playing time and he's really showing flashes
- 9:53Speaker 2: as well. It's kind of similar to Parker Washington kind
- 9:55Speaker 2: of being thrown into things and showing great times to
- 9:58Speaker 2: get that stripsack against against the Browns on Sunday, So
- 10:02Speaker 2: that could be something good to come out of this,
- 10:04Speaker 2: maybe a little bit seeing a little bit more from him.
- 10:06Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, and you can't complain because injuries
- 10:09Speaker 2: are to everybody at this point, but it is newer
- 10:11Speaker 2: for them to all deal with and all at the
- 10:13Speaker 2: same time in the last couple of weeks, So that's
- 10:15Speaker 2: probably the biggest thing to kind of adjust to.
- 10:17Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, when you play these big games late
- 10:20Speaker 3: in the year, it sometimes comes back to the very
- 10:22Speaker 3: basics of football. The Jaggers have to be able to
- 10:24Speaker 3: run the ball, and the Ravens give up four point
- 10:26Speaker 3: three yards per rush. Right, that is something that they
- 10:30Speaker 3: can hang their hat on. Get out there and figure
- 10:33Speaker 3: out whether you got to run stretch plays or whether
- 10:35Speaker 3: or I've been saying this, please give Tank Pixby a
- 10:38Speaker 3: couple of carries here and there, just a few in
- 10:41Speaker 3: his last ten attempts, right, He has four six yard carries.
- 10:46Speaker 3: You don't have that guy in the middle. I'm not
- 10:48Speaker 3: talking about putting him in situations where he's got to
- 10:51Speaker 3: pass protect, but give him a couple of opportunities just
- 10:55Speaker 3: to hammer a couple of third down and.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Once last week in a game where et and Andy
- 11:00Speaker 1: Ernest Johnson and banged up going in they're on the
- 11:02Speaker 1: injury port, Tank basically got one snap and it was
- 11:05Speaker 1: as a full back.
- 11:05Speaker 3: I think, I'm sure they don't trust his pass protection,
- 11:08Speaker 3: that's the problem. And they were behind in that game.
- 11:10Speaker 3: But there's gonna be some moments on third down and two.
- 11:14Speaker 3: We're a back like Big Spied. And remember last year
- 11:18Speaker 3: Traves etn fumbled the ball what three times? And there
- 11:20Speaker 3: were two other instances where the ball was on the
- 11:22Speaker 3: ground and they didn't give up on him. So why
- 11:24Speaker 3: is everybody so quick to point out a guy who's
- 11:27Speaker 3: fumbled once. He's only fumbled once, folks once, and that
- 11:31Speaker 3: had to be overturned on the field so it could
- 11:33Speaker 3: be reviewed, and I didn't think it was conclusive. Find
- 11:36Speaker 3: a way to run the ball just on third and
- 11:38Speaker 3: two or short and then the other side of it
- 11:41Speaker 3: is the secondariest Ki mention has been so vulnerable. You've
- 11:44Speaker 3: got to get pressure. You just have to guys have
- 11:47Speaker 3: to win one on one. Trayvon Walker has to win
- 11:50Speaker 3: one on one.
- 11:51Speaker 2: And the pressure can't come with the all up blitz
- 11:53Speaker 2: because that's when they scored on three times.
- 11:55Speaker 3: Again, you've got guys who can win up front, Go
- 11:58Speaker 3: win and then hey, just pressure.
- 12:00Speaker 1: And if you get the pressure, you better not let
- 12:02Speaker 1: Lamar get loose because he'll run about seventy on you
- 12:04Speaker 1: as well, which he's done in the stadium in college.
- 12:07Speaker 3: Yeah no, and he's done in the NFL Last year
- 12:09Speaker 3: when he was here, he got free a couple of
- 12:11Speaker 3: times and they didn't win. But remember it took the
- 12:13Speaker 3: touchdown at the end and the two point conversion. So
- 12:16Speaker 3: it's just you've got to be able to run the
- 12:17Speaker 3: ball and you've got to be able to rush the
- 12:19Speaker 3: quarterback this week. Otherwise if you can't do it, if
- 12:22Speaker 3: we leave the field Sunday and we're looking at the
- 12:24Speaker 3: stat sheet in the press conference early Monday morning and
- 12:27Speaker 3: we say, man, they couldn't run the ball and there
- 12:29Speaker 3: was no pressure on the quarterback, it could be ugly.
- 12:32Speaker 3: I feel pretty good about it.
- 12:33Speaker 1: I don't know about you guys.
- 12:34Speaker 2: I like night games, so I think it'll be a
- 12:36Speaker 2: good atmosphere. They'll have as good of a chance as
- 12:38Speaker 2: they're going to have.
- 12:39Speaker 3: And I'm going against the grain on this one because
- 12:41Speaker 3: there's so many people there just like, oh, it's gonna
- 12:43Speaker 3: be no.
- 12:44Speaker 2: No.
- 12:45Speaker 3: Look, don't believe that there is someone that this team
- 12:47Speaker 3: can't beat, not even the Niners. Right, give him another
- 12:50Speaker 3: shot of the Niners. I can help it, right. I
- 12:52Speaker 3: don't think there's a team in this league that you say,
- 12:54Speaker 3: but you can't beat them. Give them a shot, I
- 12:57Speaker 3: say they.
- 12:57Speaker 1: Weren't the way they will get the shot and love
- 13:00Speaker 1: the pregame like show to go with it? Everything the great?
- 13:03Speaker 3: What an environment, that's it.
- 13:06Speaker 1: Let's the game is presented by publics where shopping is
- 13:09Speaker 1: a pleasure. Kay Stephens, Brian Sexugon, I'm JP Shadwick. Thank
- 13:12Speaker 1: you for listening. Oh, Joe Fortunato producing this thing up
- 13:16Speaker 1: as well. This is Jaguars Reporter.