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BONUS: Wholehearted Recharge Retreat Recap · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_03: We interrupt your regularly scheduled programming to bring you the wholehearted recharge retreat recap.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_03: Now try saying that any faster.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I've always wanted to use my official announcer voice for something, and so this was my moment, and I've always thought it would be kind of fun to sound serious like that and get to interrupt a scheduled program.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_03: Well, if you hadn't realized already, I've been doing an Enneagram at work series, and so I am interrupting that series to bring you this special overview of what happened this last weekend in Colorado Springs with the amazing wholehearted community.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_03: Our time was phenomenal.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_03: Of course, there was the beauty of Colorado and the property of Glen Erie, amazing woman, and we had the opportunity to dive into our stories together, process through kinesthetic activities, and all of this as we got to soak in the beauty of our surroundings and really wonderful fellowship.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_03: There's so much to share.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_03: I had a challenging time trying to figure out what all that I would bring to you, but I knew I wanted to share it with you.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_03: I knew there were so many community members who wanted to come or who are looking for something like this in their neck of the woods.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_03: And I really do hope to find a way to travel to you and bring all this good content and all the ways to be able to facilitate a retreat like this.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_03: But until then, I thought I would do the next best thing and host a live community gathering where Sarah Cronin, another fellow wholehearted coach, would share along with me about all the goodness of what we covered.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_03: And it was a perfect opportunity because Sarah and I have been developing this last summer behind the scenes an amazing cohort.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_03: It's a six-week time of gathering in a small group, all about soul rest, about how do you go from weary to beloved.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_03: It's so timely, especially as we're heading into a busy fall season and everything open, everything in full swing.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_03: And of course, what quickly ensues is the holiday season.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_03: So I feel like this is the perfect timing to have a conversation like this.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_03: If you couldn't join the in-person gathering at the retreat or even the community Zoom call, I've got a treat for you.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_03: This is a scaled-down version of that conversation.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_03: I have trimmed all the access that I could, and thanks to my podcast editor Nyla, she has helped me make sure that the most important elements stay to help you get to learn the actual takeaways and insights that I not only shared at the retreat, but then again during this time, and as well as getting the preview of what's going to be covered in Sarah's upcoming cohort.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_03: Now we kick off the time asking this great go-to question.
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  SPEAKER_03: What's your name?
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  SPEAKER_03: Where are you from?
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  SPEAKER_03: Your dominant Enneagram type, and your ideal rest or pampering day.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_03: It was so fun to get to learn from everyone.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_03: And I wish I could hear you now.
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  SPEAKER_03: And hopefully you're answering and you're thinking about the ideal rest and pampering day.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_03: And we heard everything from hiking the Katy Trail to I voted paddle boring.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_03: We had another friend who is Oxford, England right now, and her idea was taking a book and reading it under the Alps.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, how dreamy is that?
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  SPEAKER_03: We had a little bit of everything in between massages and ways to pamper ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was so fun to learn and hear from the community.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_03: So that's what we're wanting to talk about today is learning from you and you learning a little bit more about yourself on how to engage in rhythms of rest that actually fuel you and sustain you, especially in the months and the days ahead.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_03: So we're gonna get right to the conversation.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_03: If it feels a little bit different than a podcast conversation, that's all right.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_03: It really was a community call.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_03: And so pretend like you're there on Zoom and you're listening while you're driving or you're doing the laundry or maybe catching up on your dishes and maybe errands for the day.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_03: So listen along, answer aloud, you know, as long as no one else is going to think you're crazy, and engage with this material.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_03: Of course, if you want to know more about the different spiritual practices, the soul care concepts that we talked about today, if you are listening to this just a few days from when it goes live, then you can still step into the six-week cohort from Weary to Beloved that Sarah's going to be leading this fall.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_03: There's so much goodness there.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_03: Of course, I'm gonna put the links in the show note.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_03: But for now, sit back and listen if you're able to and join this conversation.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_03: What we wanted to do is spend a little bit of time recapping the retreat from last weekend because hallelujah, glory to God.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_03: It was incredible.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it was a true labor of love.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_03: Not going to sugarcoat any of that, but it was a hundred percent worth it.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_03: All the preparation leading up to it, the months and months of prayer and preparation, and then also just the time of pouring out uh and connecting.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_03: And um, so there's so much to share, but I thought it would be awesome and selfishly.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_03: I wanted to hear from Sarah for Sand, just some of the takeaways.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_03: And we're gonna share this in a way not just to create FOMO here.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_03: That's not the goal here, but we actually want to share things so that way you can go, okay, I I couldn't come, I really wanted to, but this is what I can learn from the recap that both of us are gonna share today.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, awesome.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_02: Well, as you said, we could talk for a while.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Amy and I both love talking, and I'm sure we could talk to each of you in person for a while.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I'm really thankful, first of all, that Amy she brought a journal for each of us in our goodie bags at the retreat.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't know if if you're like us, but Amy and I both enjoy having a journal like per specific thing, right?
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_02: So if you're doing a retreat or if you're doing maybe a new sermon series or something to have a specific journal for it.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_02: And so um mine's almost halfway full already.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um from the weekend.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_02: But one thing that stuck out to me um initially that I was not expecting at all was the way in which um, because we were with people and and because we were actually taking that time and space away to check in, to ask questions.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um, one of the questions we talked about, you know, in in our smaller group setting was just how has this year been for you?
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um, what have you enjoyed this year?
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_02: Really simple questions.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um, what have you experienced?
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_02: What's been hard?
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_02: And that was a really helpful discussion for me because often if we don't take that time to actually step away and ask questions, then we just get roll in everything that's expected of us.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_02: And it was in those conversations that I feel like the Lord showed me a lot of his faithfulness.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, rewinding back to January, remember in January when we all choose words for the year and goals for the year, um it was in these conversations of reflection that the Lord, you know, made it clear to me of how he has been faithful to that word for me this year.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_02: In January, I chose the word authenticity and just felt like this was a year for me to um be more about what God is calling me to do and who he's made me to be instead of what everyone else wants from me and kind of just blending um and camouflaging.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_02: And so that was an unexpected conversation of just recognizing.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I made an entire list of all the ways I feel like the Lord has brought me more into authenticity, deeper into that.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um and so that was, yeah, that was that was a fun surprise.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I think along those lines, um, this quote from Mark Batterson is one of my favorites recently.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, a change of pace plus a change of place.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes you gotta catch yourself, equals a change of perspective.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_02: And I love that because um that is the message that kind of undergirds the foundation for everything that we're gonna be talking about today, and it's in in the next few weeks if you continue along, that we have to um take intentionality to change our pace, to change the place that we're in, and that brings us new awarenesses and new insights that sometimes are simple but still can be um really impactful.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_02: And so going on these retreats obviously is a wonderful thing, and it's something that I think most of us would choose to do very frequently if if we were not limited, right?
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um maybe some of you were wanting to go on this specific retreat, but we're limited by um your schedule, by finances, by you know, so many things that it takes to get there.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um and you know, part of Amy and my passion both is but how do we access this place of rest every day, right?
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_02: We shouldn't have to get on a plane and go and go to Colorado to be able to access it.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so that was a big part of the weekend that Amy um led us through was how um how do we equip each other and actually provide tools and resources to be able to live in a place of rest for our soul to remain in a place of rest, even when our daily, you know, schedule might be crazy.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um Amy is an awesome storyteller, and as a seven, she makes it all fun.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_02: And so throughout the weekend, she continued on with this metaphor of um being equipped with the right tools for the right job, right?
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_02: And so the first time you go hiking, you know, she was sharing the story that she wore brand new hiking boots and they ended up, you know, being sore on your feet.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_02: There's even some faces cringing of like, oh, bad decision, Amy.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but as she goes, you know, more and more, she learns, okay, what are the right snacks I need in my bag?
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_02: My hiking poles would be very helpful here.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um, let's wear in those shoes a little bit before before you go hiking.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_02: And so um, in the same way, you know, this journey of even of accessing spiritual rest and living in that place needs to be paired with the right tools for the job.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_02: We're not just gonna throw you in the deep end and say, figure out how to rest.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, because if we could just figure that out easily on our own, we would all be rested right now and not on this call because we are feeling some sort of exhaust exhaustion.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_02: And so um, yeah, I really appreciated the way she made that tangible.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and one thing, Amy, that you covered was the difference between soul care and self-care, which is super intriguing.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_02: Self-care is a very, you know, loud phrase right now in our culture.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_02: So would you be willing to talk a little bit more about the differences between the two?
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I have I felt like it's something that has been inside of me to share since the beginning of Simply Wholehearted.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_03: And it also wasn't quite the mantra that I heard either at the time.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_03: And so it's just really interesting that the Lord has put this message on my heart.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_03: And I think also it's been reinforced because all through the years, through many, many different clients of of different sexes, ages, and stages of life, this concept of self-care versus soul care keeps coming to the forefront.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_03: And I think if I could sum it up, the difference between self-care and soul care is the difference between giving your car a car wash when it actually needs gas in the tank and therefore fueling it up properly.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_03: Going to the car wash is awesome.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_03: And believe me, after our road trips back and forth from Colorado or to Columbia, Missouri, a couple hours or down to Branson for a few hours, our car wash needs, or our car needs a car wash because it's full of bugs, it's groaty, it's nasty.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_03: But if we don't fuel it up with gas, it's not going to take us where we need to go.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_03: It's not going to get us back home and it's not going to get us in the day-to-day.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that really creates the contrast and the stark difference between what is self-care versus soul care.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_03: Because we do hear about self-care.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_03: And self-care is not a bad thing, but it does, if it becomes the primary thing, we're not actually getting what we need.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_03: And so if we listen to the world's call of self-care, we see some of the contrasts, contrasts.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_03: And so actually, Sarah, I think maybe the next slide, I put a couple of those there just to have us look.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_03: What's the self-care versus soul care?
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_03: And if I could sum it up, some a lot of times self-care is all about you.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_03: It is, again, looking good on the outside, taking care of the outside, but it's not fueling the inside.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_03: But but when we take time to fuel the inside, that soul care gets to be about how we can pour out better to others instead of being drained by everybody else.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_03: Because Lord knows the demands on each of us women, it's unique, but it is a plenty.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_03: And there are so many things tugging at us.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_03: And if we don't get the soul care and the refueling that we need, then it just becomes about us instead of about what we can give to others in the long run.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_03: Oftentimes, too, is just talking with the client yesterday about how the struggle for them as a five is to isolate.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_03: And in theory, for a five facing catastrophic depletion, they would feel they would go, isolation is the best thing.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_03: If I could just get away from everything, if I can hermit away.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_03: But in the long run, they see what a detriment that has been to just continue to pull away and pull away and pull away.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_03: Whereas soul care is about retreating.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_03: It's doing what Jesus did, what we saw him do in the gospels is when he got away to be with his father, when he did step away from the crowd, not to shut everyone out and say, I'm not going to help you anymore, or I just, I need some alone time.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_03: It was to retreat and to feel himself again so that way he could go out and serve and heal and teach.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_03: So there is a big difference between isolating and cutting yourself from others as opposed to retreating, which is what we got to do essentially this last week, right?
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_03: And we had some times that were completely alone in solitude, and other times retreating in a way that was purposely fueling and refueling us.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_03: Ultimately, I really see again, right?
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_03: Self-care doesn't satisfy.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like after we do some of those self-care routines, it's really great and it's wonderful, but it doesn't have the longevity like soul care does to fuel us and to refuel what it is that we need in order to be able to pour out to others.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_03: And in the long run, I think self-care can in the in the end subtract, whether it's from our bake account or relationships, right?
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_03: Or all the different ways that it can maybe take away over time instead of refueling, whereas soul care always refuels us and helps us to be able to better add to the community and the world that we're in.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_03: Ultimately, here I've I kind of came up with this idea of self-care is a tool of distraction from your real purpose.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_03: Well, soul care is the Lord tending to your needs so you can be full of purpose.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_03: Again, it's not to bash self-care, right?
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_03: And self-care can be, you know, lumped into those glorious massages, the time on the paddle board, getting our pedicure done, um, going and getting some new clothes so we can feel really good about ourselves, getting our hair done and things again that are the outside, the car wash.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_03: It's not to say that that isn't a good thing and it isn't what we need at certain times.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_03: But if we don't have the balance out, and if our first go-to isn't the soul care, in the long run, it's going to be a deterrent from it from what ultimately we need the strength to do, which is our real purpose.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_03: So a couple of things that we also talked about was um just the practical tools.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_03: And we're going to share some of those.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_03: This is kind of where we're going to go in.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_03: And what are the specific things that we shared?
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_03: Because ultimately, as I mentioned, Jesus was the best example for what it looked like to get away and tend to his soul and talk with the Father to get what he needed from his heavenly father.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_03: And so we opened up part of the time to begin to understand the ideas of stillness, silence, and solitude.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_03: Now, if you've ever been a wholehearted client before, or if you've been around a while, you know I love talking about these.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_03: And what I think is really fascinating, while we're invited to practice all three stillness, silence, and solitude, we we actually find as we dive into each of your unique Enneagram types, there is a specific upstream practice, we would call it, that when we engage in one of these things specifically, we can see some of the biggest leaps of growth and change and transformation in our life when we engage in that.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm not going to break that all down today, but I do know that in one of Sarah's cohorts, one of her weekly sessions, she's going to talk about these different elements, not only dive into the details of it, but also help help you understand per your Enneagram type what is going to be the most uh recharging, maybe the most stretching, but also where, because if it stretches us the most, we often see the most growth and benefit from it.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, Amy, I just have to, I just have to pop in there because I remember my session with you where this was highlighted and um you were introducing it.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember being floored in the best way of wait a second, I've heard silence and solitude, I've heard stillness, I've heard those are good spiritual disciplines for anyone to do.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: But you're telling me there's a specific one that's going to impact or bring the most growth to my type and why.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_02: That was so intriguing to me.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_02: And um, yeah, you were like, here's where I learned it, you know, dive in deeper.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm really excited to share that with others because it's just it's so fascinating.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_03: It really is.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_03: And it was one of those things.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yes, Christopher Hurwitz, who has been an author for in the Enneagram world, sadly, um, he has made some moral choices that have not um been good.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_03: And so, you know, sometimes you gotta get the meat and spit out the bones.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_03: And this is one of those times, but there was a section in one of his first Enneagram books about contemplative practice.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_03: Now, as someone who is a little bit more drawn to or has been over the years in my my church experience um from like traditional to charismatic and non-affiliation to back to affiliation and all the things in between, I've really come to love liturgy and some of the more the older church history and researching that.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um, still, you know, Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father, let's be clear.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_03: But the idea of contemplative practice really began to draw me at a certain point in my spiritual life.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_03: And looking at some of the ancient practices of our fathers and mothers of our faith, and what did that look like?
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_03: But where did they get that from?
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_03: Ultimately, the gospel and the life of Jesus and what how, and then, and to help us as human beings throughout the centuries to be able to live within the rhythms that is um that is just like what Jesus did.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_03: So when we talk about stillness, silence, and solitude, the big name for it is contemplative practice.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_03: But it's the idea of pulling away, right, retreating, not isolating, but oftentimes getting away from the noise, from the busyness, from other people.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_03: And some of you with little little ones, getting away from people is a little bit trickier in some seasons than others.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_03: We could spend the whole hour talking about that.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but also strategy too.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm sure Sarah is going to pass along those strategies because we've talked about it often.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_03: But what the goal of each of these things and engaging in each of these practices is that stillness ultimately will help you discern what really matters amidst the busyness.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_03: Now, how many of you could use some more stillness in your life, right?
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_03: Because you really do want to discern what you should be giving your attention to.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, I'm raising both hands and silence.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_03: Silence teaches you to listen to God's voice above the noise.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_03: I'm giving like a, whoo, yes, that's me.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I need this all day long.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_03: And, you know, silence, even this is where one of these opportunities do we necessarily have gobs of time to be silence and to turn off all the noise?
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_03: No, but maybe the invitation is to when you get in your car for your commute instead of the go-to podcast, I love a good podcast, or the audiobook, or even the worship music, is God inviting you to just be with him so that way his voice can rise above the noise?
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_03: He's always talking, but are we taking the time to intentionally tune in to what it is that he wants to say?
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_03: And sometimes it's profound, sometimes it's just words of love, sometimes it's, you know, just the simple uh presence of the Lord in those silence.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_03: And it doesn't have to be gobs of hours.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_03: Again, we're talking a lot of times.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_03: I encourage, if you'll remember Sarah, is like start with two minutes.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I think you were eager and you're like, oh no, I got more than two minutes in me.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_03: Um then solitude.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_03: Solitude gives you space to be yourself without distractions.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_03: And where we lean into this specifically is those who's just used to performing and helping for everybody, to meeting everybody else's expectations.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_03: We all have that bent for one reason or another and in one environment or another.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_03: And solitude helps us step away and just be authentically us and who we were created to be before we do a thing for anyone else.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_03: And it's just us and God in that solitude.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_03: And there's such, such sweetness in all that.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm gonna stop because I know there's a lot to share here, but ultimately I really believe that as I've continued to engage in these practices, I have, I definitely have more awakened attention to the presence of God, his, his voice and his direction.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it doesn't mean all my problems don't go away.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_03: You know, like they're they're not gone.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_03: But I'll tell you what, I I know where to go when I face those hard times, those disappointments, those trials, the grief, all of that.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_03: And and it's in some of these rhythms that I I find exactly what it is that I need to refuel me to help me keep going.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, a couple of other things that we talked about were, well, I'll I'll talk about the Lectio Divina and the Visio Divina.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_03: And these were also a couple of practices that we equipped because we had this awesome time where we we talked about the journey, then we talked about practices, and then we went really deep into the hard stuff.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_03: And we kind of had touched on the hard stuff, but then we went there.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_03: And so what I had wanted to do is before we had a long stretch of three hours for reflection and solitude and just doing what it is that each of us were really feeling compelled to do, take a nap, take a shower, kind of all of those things.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_03: We talked about these specific practices that again, I'm going to touch on today.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_03: And then during Sarah's cohort, she's going to go through showing and demonstrating, like we did together at the retreat, where we went, we actually did these in real time together.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_03: So that way we had the comfort of being shown what it was like to do it with a group and then the opportunity to go do this on their own.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_03: So Leptio Divina is it's it's just again one of those ancient practices.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_03: It's you can trace it back to the early centuries in the church.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_03: And it's a practice of reading and praying the scriptures.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_03: And it's one of many ways.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_03: There's lots and lots of ways of engaging with God's word.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_03: What I love about Lectio Divina is that there is a restful approach.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_03: I love Bible study.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_03: I've got my Bethmore Bible studies stack up, Priscilla Schreier.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, the list goes, Kelly Mentor, so many different ones that I love my Bible studies.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_03: I love digging deep and getting in the Word of God.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_03: I was part of Bible study fellowship off and on for years.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_03: But there's also there, there needs to be an opportunity to just soak in the word of God, again, without performance pressure.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_03: And so this is where Leftio Divina invites us to very slowly to read, reflect, respond, and rest.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_03: And oftentimes it's just one verse, or it can be a segment of a verse.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_03: And while you read that, you invite the Lord to ask you, what is it that has stood out to me?
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_03: What in that passage is caught my attention?
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_03: And then responding, Lord, what about this word?
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_03: Or what about this phrase, or what about this sentence here is landing in such a unique, unique place.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_03: And as you respond and read again the word of God, that passage, it's resting in it, allowing it to truly what I consider soaking.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_03: And um, and and it's that opportunity to engage in the scripture in in just a more profound, deeper way that isn't, it isn't the intensity of studying, which again, I love it, and the concordance and the word crafts referencing and all that good stuff.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_03: But this is just a way that invites us more to the deep breathing.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_03: And as KJ says, marinate to marinate in the Word of God.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_03: Another one of those that I thought was so cool, and I should have thrown a picture up here because we had a perfect illustration at the time, but it's Visio Divina, which translates to divine seeing and it involves meditating on a visual image.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_03: This can be a literal picture of a beautiful work of art, a picture of nature.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_03: It means being out in nature, which we had the privilege.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_03: Glenn Erie is this phenomenal, hard to articulate in words.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um you got to be there in person to see the beauty of it.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_03: It's just tucked away in Colorado Springs and it's um it's got parts of Garden the Gods that you can see, these just majestic rocks that are red and glorious and evergreen trees and the fresh pine air.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's just incredible.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm not overselling it, I can promise you that.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_03: But it was this awesome opportunity to practice Visio Divina in such a glorious place.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_03: Now, I have come to learn to practice it in my suburban neighborhood here in Kansas City, Missouri on my walks every day.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_03: But it's looking at nature, looking at the beauty of God's creation and it calling to my heart and reminding me the glory of God, the awe and wonder of who He is, his holiness that is spelled out in creation.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_03: And for me, that's often me peeking through the houses to the sunrise in the morning, where I kind of longingly go, someday I'll live in a place where I can sit on my back porch and watch the sunrise or a sunset because I love, I just love that rhythm of the day and being able to view it and take it in.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_03: But there is so sweet where one um Kristen Ye, one of one of our wholehearted coaches, she was out there and she saw this rock formation and it shaped this you that was a very profound image in our weekend and the evergreen tree growing from the middle of it and calling to her mind about being rooted in Christ, even in hardship and pain and suffering.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_03: And that was just so compelling and remind just be mindful of who God is in the midst of whatever circumstances that we find ourselves in.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_03: So that's a little taste of Visio Divina again, and something that Sarah is going to share in depth during the cohort six weeks, where she will walk you through the practice and equip you so that way you can try it out on your own as well.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_03: And I know one of the things, gosh, we talked about so much.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_03: All right, I'm looking at a time.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_03: I think we're doing okay.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but a couple of two more highlights is that ultimately when we um got together in the afternoon before a time of solitude and reflection and rest, is that we talked about the broken hearts, heart moments, the broken pieces of our story.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_03: And and that Samuel Chadwick quote, which I'm going to botch here, but it's just a wonder what God can do when we give him all the broken pieces.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's a wonder what God can do with our hearts when we give him all the pieces.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_03: And just that concept and that call about what is wholeheartedness.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_03: Wholeheartedness is not something that we do in our own.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_03: It's not performance.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_03: It's not doing better, try harder.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_03: It's giving God all our broken pieces so he can put it together again.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_03: And he can, he can begin to continue to write the story of our lives and us to partner with him in that by saying, here, God, here are all these pieces.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't make sense.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_03: It didn't work out like I thought it would.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not sure if I can forgive.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not sure if I can move on all those different elements, but giving it to him and allowing that healing to take place, but that there's a very big difference.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: And we talked about being what is holy lament versus victim-minded.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um, for some of you who've been around for a while, you've heard me talk about the idea.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_03: Are you a victim, a villain, the hero, or the guide?
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_03: And we won't draw out that tale, but ultimately when we're contrasting, we're all victims.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_03: We've all been victims of some tragedy, pain, loss, a grievous action towards us.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_03: But the invitation is to not stay there, but instead to engage in holy lament, again, giving all our brokenhearted pieces to the Lord so He can continue to write the story and we can have our hero moment.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_03: So that way eventually we can become the guide to so many others who need that hope in Christ.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_03: And to need to see that wholeheartedness is possible.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's not easy, um, but there is simplicity in it when we realize that it can only confirm Christ.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, the last thing that I'm gonna share was the call to action.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_03: And again, Sarah, I know you're gonna talk more about this, but the idea of Sabbath and the rhythm of Sabbath.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um, Sunday morning we had several more hours together, but as we started, it was just I wanted to remind everyone that we're tired and we're weary, but it's probably for a lot of us because we're not giving ourselves that full 24-hour break.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_03: And I will be the first to say, as a mom, an entrepreneur, and you know, a multi-passionate person, right?
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_03: So many friends and small groups and activities and things like that.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_03: It has taken me a long time to figure out what Sabbath is.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_03: And just about the time I have it figured out, my season of life changes.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, what?
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_03: I have to do this again.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_03: But there's so many great resources and teachings out there about Sabbath.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_03: And ultimately what I wanted to invite everyone to is to begin to explore that practice and to know that it's a biblical call to give yourself a full 24 hours to rest.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_03: And I have to say, while I still the daily rhythms, I have to make sure that I'm really fueling myself and I can find myself quickly on that edge of like, oh, I need to take time for my soul care.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_03: But I have to tell you what, once I implemented Sabbath, I found my life to come into a more sustainable pace than ever before.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_03: And Sabbath for a lot of us goes against our natural tendencies.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_03: It creates angst in us, it doesn't feel possible.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_03: We're not sure our employee, much less our kids, would ever let us have a Sabbath.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_03: And so there's there's so many elements to this conversation that are going to be worth exploring.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_03: But ultimately, the invitation for you, whether you take a next step or not, is to maybe check out some resources on the concept of Sabbath rest and how that could change your life.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I know for sure, let's see if I've got it.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_03: I know what, oh yes, I do.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_03: One of them that I would say run out and get tomorrow is this one by Ruth Haley Barton, Embracing Rhythms of Work and Rest, from Sabbath to sabbatical and back again.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_03: Now, I haven't had the privilege to practice the sabbatical content that she has written on, but the Sabbath stuff was so good.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and including um Shelly Miller, who's a dear friend and author who is past and is in heaven, she wrote rhythms of rest many years ago, and she lived what she believed for sure, and is definitely a resource to check out and explore.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_03: So that's some of our practical tips that we talked about.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_03: Again, I'm giving you rapid fire.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_03: Hopefully you're taking notes, or as I promised, there will be a replay so you can go back and write these things down.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_03: But what I really loved was we had a couple of different sessions during our week and the weekend about our personality and how it impacts our relationships, communication, orientation to time, and our communication with God.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm excited for Sarah to share this bit of information with you.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_03: Again, she's gonna give some high-level view and we'll be going deeper in the weeks ahead.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_03: But you gotta pay attention.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_03: This one's a good one.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_03: So much awesome stuff here.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yes, Amy.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_02: This has been um recently my favorite thing to talk about.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_02: And so I'm excited to share it with you all today.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't have slides for this portion of it, so you can jot notes down of what might strike you.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, also use the replay to go back.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I will, you know, unashamedly use it as a teaser for the cohort because we will be doing an entire session on this component.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_02: I think as you were talking, Amy, I mean, on each of these practices, I feel like we could talk, we could have an entire conversation about it.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so much of it is approaching the process of spiritual growth, not from an intellectual lens and viewpoint, but from a, you know, we're called to love God with our entire mind, body, and soul.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_02: So what does it look like for me to bring all of him?
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_02: And sitting in front of his word, you know, using Lectio Divina, is very it, it's less of what is the context, what are the words saying, what do those words mean in the original language?
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_02: And all of those things are amazing, incredible tools.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to, you know, try to cut that short at all.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but we're often approaching that with our head.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_02: And so a lot of these practices are saying, how do we actually bring our soul and our heart into this experience with the Lord?
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, because when we bring all of us to him, he can actually do something with it, right?
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and and that would be the same for Visio, Divina as well, um, and for Sabbath as well.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm really, really looking forward to diving into those.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_02: And my specific point of interest is how our specific personality type actually affects how we are able to do that well.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we cannot just give you a formula of go outside, read a verse, you know, do this thing.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's not a simple formula that's going to impact your soul all the same way.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what's so fascinating for me is to have that combination or that intersection between personality and spirituality, um, not to glorify the personality side and make it all about self, um, but because God did make us on purpose with his specific design and he has specific um callings for us.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_02: So I could get on in that, um, down that conversation.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_02: But for this piece, um, we did talk about each each Enneagram type's orientation to time and how that affects the way that we approach the Lord.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_02: And if you're not familiar or more unfamiliar, there's not a ton of Enneagram teaching out there.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you can find it if you look for it, um, but there's not books and books and books written on it.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_02: But it's essentially the concept of um one of these orientations, past, present, or future, will be your natural stance, will be the way in which you are naturally engaging with the world, um, how you're um interacting with your experiences, and becoming aware of which one of those is your starting point is helpful because okay, we say, but where's God in this?
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_02: Is God past or present?
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_02: No, we know God is outside of time, right?
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_02: He there is no past to him and there is no future to him.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_02: He sees it all at once.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_02: And so as Amy was leading us through our story work and our broken-hearted pieces, God is just as present in those moments as he already is in, he can see our moment of glorification in you know, standing in front of him and our present.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_02: He works it all out together.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_02: So if we are called to live more into his reality, we're called to be forming more into the image of Christ, then when we can recognize, am I looking with past or with present or with future, then our invitation is to say, okay, how do you zoom out of that and balance into these other ones that you're missing?
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_02: So, what we like to say is we want to find our starting point so that it doesn't become our stuck point.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_02: Because as you can imagine, if I'm only looking through the lens of the past or only present or only future, I'm missing a lot.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_02: And so these orientations actually line up with the communication stances.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_02: If you're if you're familiar with that within the Enneagram, we have the withdrawn communication stance.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_02: Those are our four, fives, and nines.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_02: And they are connected to the past, they are past oriented.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_02: So this just means they see the world and they operate in the world through the lens of what has happened, and that's what is going to inform my present moment.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_02: So they are keen on telling stories and reflecting and knowing what we learned from that experience that we have already done together.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and it is a beautiful strength that they bring to the world to be able to always be aware of how things went and what we've learned.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um they, you know, might be more nostalgic and holding on to memories.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but when it comes to their relationship with the Lord, in a good way, they can really be sure of God's faithfulness because they've seen it, right?
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_02: And that can be their anchor.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but as we say, if that's your starting point, it cannot become your stuck point.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_02: So for the past person who is really skilled at um reflection, if they stay there, well then that could turn into rumination, right?
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_02: That could turn into I'm dwelling on how life once was.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'm I'm holding grief that the life I live am living now, my present moment is not what I wanted it to be.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_02: So think about regrets and disappointments um and just how things used to be, that can cause um a stuckness where you're not able to move forward or you're not able to enjoy what's current and what's present.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so there's huge implication for that.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I can't wait to talk more about it.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_02: But that's our past people.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_02: Our present people are also the dutiful communication stance.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_02: So that's our ones, twos, and sixes.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_02: And they have a gift for being able to be present and see what's directly in front of them.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so they can easily identify what are the needs in my current moment, what are the expectations that are on me right now?
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um, what does it mean to be, you know, to be good right now or to get everyone's love right now?
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and they they're able to see God moving in the moment.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_02: You know, they're able to say, that is God, and just recognize his activity, and it's a beautiful thing.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but if that lens becomes your stuck point, that turns into overwhelm, which means everything in front of me is the only thing I see, and everything I choose to do is just based on everything that I see, and it can feel like this merry-go-round of activity, and you may not be aware of where am I going?
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_02: What is my purpose?
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_02: Where is God actually leading me?
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_02: Because I'm just waking up every day doing all the things that I'm supposed to do.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_02: And so we can see how this would impact our relationship with God.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_02: Because if He's inviting us into His reality, then He would say, Hey, I want you to sit and dream with me.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_02: I want you to know where you're going because and where I have you going, so that you can be sure your activity is in the right direction.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then our future people would be our assertive communication stance.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_02: So three, sevens, and eights.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_02: You've probably been wanting me to get to your stance.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_02: If this is you, you're like, come on, let's let's keep it moving.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_02: Because they're all about that forward progress.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_02: So whatever is gonna be happening in the future, that's what informs what I'm doing right now.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_02: So great at goal setting and accomplishing and achieving and moving forward.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and when it comes to interaction with God, that's a beautiful thing because they can hold this hope and this anticipation of what God is gonna do.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, they can pray with a strong belief that God come do this.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_02: We believe that you will.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it's a beautiful, you know, gift that they bring to the table.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but we always have to say the strengths and and the possible blind spots.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_02: The struggle would be that they are caught in a place of discontentment because we're living for the future, but we're missing the present.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's my husband who's always like, let's go on vacation.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_02: We can't wait for vacation 30 days until vacation.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_02: And then we're on vacation.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, Okay, guys, so when we get back, we're gonna and we're like, we're here, we're on vacation.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_01: Enjoy it, right?
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so we have to think, how would that apply to my relationship with the Lord?
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, I'm missing the beauty of what he is doing right now, and I'm missing the beauty of what he has done for me because I'm so focused on the future.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_02: And so um, in all of these, there's always invitations to recognize where we are and then be invited into those other spaces to live more into God's reality.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_02: Not that we can ever see outside of time like he can, um, but there's great invitation.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_02: And so there are um many, many more bullet points per orientation that we could go into.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_02: And so if you do tag along to the cohort, um that will be an energetic session because just like Anya, you said you resonate with that one.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, getting going to that past place.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_02: Every conversation I've had about this, everyone is really resonating with it.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what's so intriguing.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_02: Amy, what's been your kind of interaction or or understanding of it?
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I I'm trying to remember when I first heard about the orientation to time, but I have seen it connected to so many aspects of our life in a way that I feel like has brought the most transformation for people, where there's a tangible connection of going, oh, not only that's why I do that, but here's here's some very intentional ways then that I can make it not my stuck point.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_03: As you mentioned, it's like it's great, it's your starting point.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_03: That is a gift you offer to the world.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_03: But where we often find ourselves, it's our stuck point as well.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_03: And there are very specific things that we can do to expand our viewpoint and to engage in all those, all those aspects, but plus that it can tie us closer to the creator of our orientation to time.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, come on, someone who is outside of time, it's so powerful.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, that's so good.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but since we have to keep progressing, yes, um, we have given a very, very, you know, high-level overview of um what our retreat looked like, um, some of the things we talked about, some of the practical tools for equipping.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't think it's um a question if any of us need more rest.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_02: I I'm gonna take the step to say we probably each need more rest than we're currently getting.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_02: So, on that note, I, you know, many of you filled out um the soul assessment before today.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_02: And that's just a way to kind of get some words and some questions in front of us to help bring our awareness of how is my heart right now?
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_02: And so if you would be willing and vulnerable on this workshop today, I would love if you could drop in the chat.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_02: Did anything on that assessment stick out to you?
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_02: Did it bring any awareness to maybe how exhausted you really are or how your wheels really do keep turning?
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, what did that stir up in you?
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_02: Even the questions of what's what what are some emotions right now that you would?
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: Describe your heart.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_02: This is a safe place because if we're here, we are all longing for that similar concept.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_02: So I would love to hear from you on what might have resonated with you.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, feel free to write your answers in the chat.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_03: I know that, you know, the beauty of these questions.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_03: And if you didn't get to fill out the assessment, you can go back anytime and fill it out.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_03: Because ultimately the goal of it is, as Sarah said, to prompt in you, give you some language maybe around what you're feeling and get a little bit clearer on where it is that you're being most drained and the exhaustion, where the root of the exhaustion is coming from.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_03: That's good.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_03: And need a reboot of morning and evening rhythms.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_03: So powerful.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_03: Initially, I realized I was more weary than initially thought.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_03: Ooh, I like that, Bonnie.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_03: For me, it was good to see that the heavy and hard can coexist with the joyful and light.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_03: That's powerful.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_02: Especially for us sevens, right?
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_02: Those rhythms really can be anchoring points or destructive points of our day, to be honest, right?
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_02: Especially that morning and evening.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_02: And um, we're gonna be talking about rhythms specifically, rhythms on on every frequency level, daily, weekly, um, monthly, quarterly, because God is a God of rhythms.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_02: He gave us a morning and he gave us a night every day, right?
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_02: And he, I don't know if you guys like the calendar flip day as much as I do, but when it's the first of the month, I'm like, woo, fresh start.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, yes.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, feel free to continue dropping those in.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_02: But um we I just I want to be um aware of your time, but I would love to do a quick overview of, you know, Amy's already touched on what soul rest or how soul care is different than um self-care, and how that comes with a lot of um tools for equipping as well.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_02: And so I think we all know that we need rest, but I would love to do just an overview um a little bit deeper of what soul rest looks like biblically.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_02: And so soul rest we see is has to begin with slowing down and surrendering and silencing that goes with a lot of those um contemplative practices, but it has to start there.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_02: It has to start with a pause because if we just we can't just continue about the speed of our lives and just hope that rest comes along the way.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and this is the beautiful part that God's never gonna force it on us, right?
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_02: All of his invitations to us um to participate with him and to do this alongside of him is an invitation.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_02: And so we have to choose to participate, and that includes slowing down.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_02: And ultimately, it's soul rest is a state of being, not doing.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_02: And so, even as we do explore practices and we do explore tools over the next few weeks together, the beauty and the experience of a soul rest is more of a posture of our heart than it is something that we do.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we're not gonna say, if you do all of the five practices that we listed out today, you will surely achieve, right?
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_02: The point is to bring our heart before the Lord and not just say, let me do um do all my all my checklist and then I'll achieve anything.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_02: It is free and light, it's not, it's not burdensome.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes starting the disciplines can can be the hardest part because that's the most rub intention from our normal life.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but as you begin to experience the joy and the lightness, it's something you crave and you want because only the Lord can fill us up.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_02: All throughout scripture, when we when and we'll go through a couple of verses here in a minute, but whenever we see rest and joy mentioned, it's always connected to the presence of God.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_02: It's not something that can be achieved in any other way apart from Him, just like my self-care run to Target is not going to ultimately give me joy and peace.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and it does subtract from the bank account, but it's always connected to God's presence.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_02: And so that is our goal is to pursue that, to pursue him and see how he can transform our heart.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it requires humility to admit that we're not in control and we're not indispensable.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you guys have ever had to take away a day from work or a vacation and you have felt like if I don't get all the ducks in a row before I leave, this company might fail without me, right?
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_02: Or my team might fail without me.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but taking the step of rest and these disciplines requires the posture of saying, God, I trust that the things that will continue to happen as I step away are yours.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_02: Whether that's the kids will be okay with the babysitter or their father or grandma, um, or whether it's the team is gonna, you know, be okay, whatever it is, everything else will be okay.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_02: And and I'm ultimately not in control of it.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and just a few more.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_02: We already talked about, we hit the first one that it is a rhythmic um concept.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's something we are, you know, want to do um at a high frequency.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_02: And I can't wait.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_02: Our our very, very last cohort session, we're gonna dive into okay, moving out of this cohort and and out of these times together, let's put a plan in place for each of us to walk away with a plan on each of those rhythms.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and it's personal.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_02: Again, this is the part I'm the most passionate about is that each of our hearts have a different longing.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_02: We each have different gifts that we bring to the table in the body of Christ.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_02: We each have different struggles, things that hang us up.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_02: As Amy led us through our story and our brokenhearted moments this weekend, it was so intriguing to me that all of as I was thinking over my life and I was drawing it out in an art activity, every moment in my life that holds the deepest pain is connected to my deepest fear.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_02: And it was like this, oh my goodness, all of our brokenhearted moments are going to look different because we're we're hoping for different things, we're solving for different things.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and that is the beauty of our majestic God is that He can fulfill each of our hearts so personally and tenderly.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but that is an important layer as we look through these different um soul rest rhythms.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_02: And as I said before, it postures our heart to be shaped and molded by him.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_02: So these are pretty obvious.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_02: I think um most of you would know the obstacles if I asked, you know, what are your obstacles, which we did in the assessment, and hopefully that brought some awareness for you.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_02: But we live in a noisy world.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_02: That's number one.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_02: Everywhere we turn is either our phone or um, you know, a TV, some type of screen.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, even old school ads are all digital, right?
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like there's just noise everywhere.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um, or like Amy said, you get in the car and you turn on a podcast or something.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and also our own striving.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_02: And by this, as we dive deeper into what are you trying to achieve?
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_02: What do you is it is it joy and freedom that ultimately you're running after?
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_02: Is it inner peace and stability that you're running after?
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_02: Is it the love of everyone around you?
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_02: Once we find that and we really you might know that already, but as we dive deep into that, we realize how in our own strength, we're trying to achieve that on our own.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_02: That's actually going to be our first session together.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_02: How um in each of our striving, we're trying to achieve this end thing.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_02: And guess what?
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_02: In our own strength, not only do we not achieve a real version of joy, um, but we actually sabotage our own efforts.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_02: And so only with Christ are we are we going to achieve that.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um and just to, I'm just gonna fly through the rest.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_02: It's we live in a fast-paced culture.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_02: That's no news.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and we desire to control things.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_02: And when we stop and surrender and we submit, uh, we have to give that up in a sense to be able to trust the Lord with the rest of it.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_02: And so um, a couple of my favorite verses are Isaiah 26, 3.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_02: He keeps us in perfect peace when our mind is fixed on him.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_02: So you see this connection, peace as we're fixed on him.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_02: That is a steady, steadfast um verb.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_02: Is anyone thirsty?
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_02: Come, all who will come and drink, drink freely the water of life.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_02: He is the refreshment.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and this version of Matthew 11, 28 that are you weary, carrying a heavy burden, come to me, I will refresh your life.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_02: I am your oasis.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_02: Simply join your life with mine, learn my ways, and you'll discover that I'm gentle, humble, and easy to please.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_02: You will find refreshment and rest in me.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_02: For all that I require of you will be pleasant and easy to bear.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_02: And I read that and I just take a deep sigh.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_02: That for so many years, if you've walked with the Lord for a long time, faith can feel like this thing that you have to do that you're obliged to do, that you know, you've got to check the things off.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_02: But when we read this, we say, wait, the heart of Jesus is for our for it all to be light and pleasant.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and that truly is accessible in him.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_03: Well, even though there were so many elements of the retreat that I could not bring to the podcast, such as hiking the Glen Erie property with you, or the kinesthetic activities, or even a rousing game of fishbowl, I feel like this recap was so successful in highlighting some of the amazing takeaways from our weekend together.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_03: And actionable takeaways, right?
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_03: So with that in mind, maybe you are ready to do more.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_03: What is God's replenishing rest look like for you?
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_03: And how can you learn from others?
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_03: How do you want to learn from others?
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_03: If you want to know a little bit more about Sarah's cohort, of course, check out the link in the show notes.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_03: But to give you a quick rundown of some of the weeks together, she'll cover topics like rest from striving, the contemplative practices that we touched on during this time, orientation to time and conversations with God.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_03: That conversation, oh my goodness, that week alone is loaded so good.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_03: Specific spiritual disciplines, or what we also call upstream or downstream practices for every type, and restful rhythms that you can implement, whether it's about a weekly basis, a daily basis, a monthly basis, all of that so that way you can really put them on your calendar and implement them on the regular so you don't find yourself in a constant, vicious cycle of weariness.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_03: And instead engage into those beloved rhythms so that way your soul is fueled and ready to pour out into others.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_03: Now you can do this together with a small cohort.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_03: It's really going to be a small group of women.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_03: We're capping it out at 12.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_03: We can only host one this time this year.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_03: But if you can join this year, continue to engage with the material of this podcast.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_03: Or if you wanted to bring a retreat like this to your city, please reach out to me and let me know.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_03: And I'd love to talk to you to see if this material would be a good fit for you.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_03: Specifically what we did at the wholehearted recharge retreat.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_03: It was so rich and so good.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_03: I've had a hard time sharing everything with you in a timely way, but you'll see more insights along the way, including pictures and videos and everything from our precious time together.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_03: So thanks for listening to this recap.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_03: I hope you found a couple of wonderful takeaways to implement.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_03: And then next week, join me for our regularly scheduled programming, and we'll continue the conversations about taking the Enneagram to work.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_03: So until next time, friend, continue to pursue God's perspective, purpose, and plans for your simply wholehearted life.