Latest / Investor Exchange / Alset International: First Half 2025 Financial Results
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:08Welcome everyone to another deep dive. Okay, picture this.
- 0:12You're looking at a company's financial report, right? Eager to see how they're
- 0:16doing. And then you see something, well, pretty wild.
- 0:18Revenue has just tanked, dropped by nearly 100% year over year.
- 0:23Yet Somehow, the company's overall loss for that exact same period.
- 0:29It's barely moved, almost exactly the same. How on earth does that even happen?
- 0:33Well, today we're going to unpack just such an intriguing scenario.
- 0:36We're diving into the recent financial results for ALSET International Limited,
- 0:41specifically their unaudited condensed financial statements for the first six months of 2025.
- 0:47Our mission today is to cut through those headline-grabbing numbers.
- 0:50We want to really get to the heart of ALSET's financial performance.
- 0:52We'll explore the significant shifts, you know, both the challenging parts and
- 0:56the surprisingly stable ones.
- 0:57We'll try to understand the underlying reasons for these dramatic changes.
- 1:00And then, crucially, look at what this all means for their future outlook.
- 1:04We want to give you those aha moments,
- 1:06you know, leave you feeling truly well-informed about LSAT's journey.
- 1:09So let's jump right into that dramatic headline, LSAT's revenue.
- 1:12In the first half of 2024, it stood at a, well, a respectable S6.8 million dollars.
- 1:17But come 1H 2025, it plunged to just S23,000 dollars. I mean,
- 1:22that's practically zero compared to before, and their gross profit.
- 1:25It followed suit, plummeting from S1.5 million dollars down to only a some thousand dollars.
- 1:29On the surface, if you just saw those numbers, you'd likely think,
- 1:31you know, this company's in serious trouble, right? Oh, absolutely.
- 1:34On the surface, those figures are incredibly stark. Yeah.
- 1:38But what's truly fascinating here, and what numbers don't immediately tell you,
- 1:42is that it's not simply a collapse of business, like due to market failure or
- 1:45anything. It's largely a result of some very deliberate strategic shifts that
- 1:50LSAT International Limited has been making.
- 1:52The primary driver for that massive revenue decrease, it was in their property development segment.
- 1:57See, in the first half of 2024, LSAT recognized quite a bit of revenue from
- 2:01selling 95 lots in their Black Oak project.
- 2:04Fast forward to the first half of 2025, and there were, well,
- 2:08virtually no sales like that.
- 2:10This single factor, just that difference in property sales, explains the bulk
- 2:14of that $6.8 million drop.
- 2:16Okay, so it sounds less like a failure to sell and maybe more like they'd already
- 2:20sold that batch, like a sold-out sign for that specific project phase.
- 2:24They were just recognizing the revenue from prior period sales then.
- 2:27But still, that's a huge chunk of revenue just gone.
- 2:30How does a company not see its losses completely explode after that? Exactly.
- 2:34It's a crucial distinction. It wasn't the lack of demand this period.
- 2:36It was the timing of recognition. And there's another major piece to this puzzle.
- 2:40Alcet completely stopped recognizing revenue from its food and beverage,
- 2:43or F&B, operations in 1H 2025.
- 2:47Now, this segment brought in about $6.8 million in revenue and $6.4 million
- 2:51in gross profit back in 1H 2024.
- 2:53But those F&B operations, they were entirely disposed of, sold off as part of
- 2:57the HWH International Inc., transferred to Alcet Inc.
- 2:59Back on November 20, 2024. Ah, okay.
- 3:01So if I'm hearing this correctly, it's not just like a general lack of business
- 3:06across the board or some sudden market downturn hitting everything.
- 3:09It's more like a strategic exit from one business area, the F&B,
- 3:13and a sort of natural pause in major sales from a property development that
- 3:17had a big year the previous year. That's a key insight, isn't it?
- 3:21Headline revenue drops aren't always a sign of market failure.
- 3:24They can actually be a deliberate outcome of strategy, like portfolio restructuring,
- 3:28a company choosing to shed parts to focus elsewhere. You really have to look behind the big numbers.
- 3:33But here's the real puzzle, the bit I still can't quite wrap my head around.
- 3:37How did their bottom line, their overall loss for the period,
- 3:40manage to stay almost flat with such a massive hit to the top line?
- 3:43How do you lose nearly all your revenue, but your net loss doesn't get dramatically
- 3:47worse? This is really where the story gets nuanced.
- 3:49Yeah, it's where we see this fascinating interplay of various financial movements
- 3:53across the income statement.
- 3:56Despite that dramatic revenue plunge we talked about, Owlsett's loss for the
- 4:00period only edged up slightly.
- 4:02It went from S10.999 million dollars in 1H 2024 to S11.017 million dollars in 1H 2025.
- 4:11That near flat bottom line. It's almost a master class in financial maneuvering, really.
- 4:15It shows just how many other levers they pulled across their statements,
- 4:19effectively counteracting that massive revenue hit. That is fascinating.
- 4:23So what were these levers then? What specific things were working for them during
- 4:27this, well, incredibly challenging period financially?
- 4:30Well, one of the biggest helpers, a really powerful lever that helped stabilize
- 4:34that bottom line, was the complete absence of losses from those discontinued operations.
- 4:39Remember the F&B business they sold? In 1H 2024, ALSET reported a loss of nearly
- 4:43S2 million dollars from those ops.
- 4:45But in 1H 2025, that figure was zero because they were gone.
- 4:49It's like cutting off a constant drain on your resources.
- 4:52Right. That makes sense. Stop the bleeding from that area.
- 4:54Exactly. And then we also saw a pretty healthy increase in finance income.
- 4:58It rose by about $6.4 million, up to $1639 million in 1H 2025.
- 5:05Now, this was primarily driven by interest income they received from a U.S.
- 5:08$16 million promissory note, basically a formal IOU, and it was directly related
- 5:13to that HWH International Inc. disposal.
- 5:16Ah, so selling off that business didn't just reduce losses, it actually generated
- 5:20new income from the payment terms.
- 5:22Precisely. Income from the deferred payment structure. It's quite clever.
- 5:25That is clever. Okay. And what about their costs?
- 5:28Did they manage to cut expenses after getting rid of parts of the business?
- 5:31They did, yes, in certain key areas.
- 5:34Administrative expenses, for instance, saw a decent reduction of ITSI $0.6 million.
- 5:38They dropped to $4.8 million. And that was a direct benefit of discontinuing
- 5:42the F&B business. They just didn't have those associated overheads anymore.
- 5:45Okay, that's logical. Furthermore, their share of loss from associate companies
- 5:49decreased quite significantly by S2.1 million dollars.
- 5:53This was largely because of a reduced share of loss coming from LSAT SPAC Group,
- 5:57Inc., although it was partially offset by an increased share of loss from HWH
- 6:02International, Inc., which, remember,
- 6:04transitioned from being a subsidiary they controlled to an associate company
- 6:07they just have influence over.
- 6:09Right, so the accounting changes there, too. Less direct ownership means recognizing
- 6:13its performance differently. Exactly.
- 6:15It changes how losses flow through to LSAT's books. Less direct impact.
- 6:20And one more thing within other income. While that whole category decreased
- 6:24overall, it included a new S1.2 million dollar fair value gain on promissory notes booked at FETPL.
- 6:31FETPL stands for fair value through profit or losses. It means changes in the
- 6:35market value of those notes directly hit the income statement.
- 6:38So that gain helped cushion some other reductions in that other income category. Wow.
- 6:42OK, so a number of positive impacts, many tied directly or indirectly to that
- 6:47strategic HWH disposal, kept the bottom line from falling much further.
- 6:51It sounds like they did a really good job plugging some holes and even generating
- 6:55new income streams from that restructuring.
- 6:57But it wasn't all smooth sailing, was it? Because the loss still ticked up slightly.
- 7:02Where did the new pressures come from on the expense side? Right. It wasn't all positive.
- 7:07While those factors were crucial for offsetting the revenue loss,
- 7:10this wasn't a one-way street. Other areas definitely saw significant upward pressure.
- 7:15Overall, that other income category we just mentioned, despite the promissory
- 7:19note gain, it actually decreased by S$1.3 million overall.
- 7:23That was due to less fair value gain coming from derivative assets.
- 7:28Those are financial contracts whose value comes from something else,
- 7:31like a stock, and also less gain from convertible promissory notes.
- 7:34Plus, they just had fewer unrealized foreign exchange gains compared to the previous period.
- 7:39Okay, so less hell from those areas. And what about direct expenses? Uh, yes.
- 7:43Then there's the other expenses category. That saw a pretty significant jump.
- 7:46It went up by S2.2 million dollars, reaching S8.1 million dollars in total. What drove that?
- 7:52Well, major contributors included
- 7:53a substantial S3.5 million dollar net unrealized foreign exchange loss.
- 7:58That's a big swing from zero forex loss in 1H 2024.
- 8:01Ouch. Forex can really bite. It certainly can. They also saw increased net fair
- 8:05value losses on their financial assets held at FBTPL. Those losses grew by S$2.7
- 8:10million, rising from S$1.3 million up to S$4. million.
- 8:14And on top of that, there was a new fair value loss on derivative liabilities
- 8:17of S$2 million, plus a small C$1.1 million bad debt write-off.
- 8:21Wow. Okay. So let me try and sum this up.
- 8:24It seems like LSAT is kind of shedding old skin, right?
- 8:28Getting rid of less profitable ventures, streamlining operations.
- 8:32But at the same time, they're facing some new, more market-driven challenges,
- 8:35especially with foreign exchange swings and the valuations of their investments.
- 8:39But ultimately, that strategic divestment and the clever financial moves really
- 8:43did prevent a much, much deeper overall loss than you'd expect from that revenue drop.
- 8:48What this really complex balancing
- 8:49act shows is, I guess, the power of strategic financial management.
- 8:54Even when your top line gets hammered, a company can potentially prevent a bottom
- 8:58line disaster by actively managing its assets, selling off non-core bits,
- 9:02and optimizing its financial structure.
- 9:04It really reminds us that net loss isn't just about sales, is it?
- 9:08It's about the whole financial ecosystem of the company.
- 9:11You've absolutely nailed it. You have to look beyond just those headline revenue
- 9:14and profit numbers to see the strategic intent and the offsetting factors at
- 9:19play. That's a really crucial distinction.
- 9:21OK, so let's zoom out a bit now. Let's look at the overall health of the company.
- 9:24How did all these performance shifts translate onto their balance sheet and into their cash flow?
- 9:29Are they looking robust enough to navigate this whole transformation?
- 9:32Yeah, good question. Looking at their statement of financial position,
- 9:36that's the balance sheet.
- 9:37Comparing June 30th, 2025 to the end of last year, December 31st,
- 9:412024, we definitely see shifts reflecting this transition.
- 9:45Total assets decreased by about $12 million.
- 9:49They went from $93.79 million down to S81.79 million.
- 9:54Net assets, which is assets minus liabilities, also followed suit.
- 9:58They decreased from S82.69 million dollars down to 71.48 million dollars.
- 10:04Okay, a general shrinking. What about working capital, their short-term health?
- 10:07Working capital, yeah, that's a crucial measure of short-term liquidity.
- 10:10It saw a notable decrease of 10.7 million dollars, settling at S34.4 million dollars.
- 10:16This is mainly because current assets dropped by S11.5 million dollars,
- 10:19although that was slightly offset by an S4.8 million dollar decrease in current
- 10:23liabilities, so less readily available assets compared to short-term debts.
- 10:26So a tighter position there.
- 10:28What were the key movements within those assets driving that overall decrease?
- 10:33Well, looking at specific asset movements...
- 10:36Their investment in associate companies decreased by $0.6 million.
- 10:41That's mainly reflecting the share of loss from HWH International Inc.,
- 10:45now that it's an associate.
- 10:47Interestingly, though, non-current financial assets, longer-term ones,
- 10:51actually increased by S1.2 million.
- 10:54And that was driven by that fair value gain on the promissory notes at FETPL
- 10:59we discussed earlier. Right, the ones linked to the HWH sale.
- 11:02Exactly. However, current financial assets, the shorter term ones,
- 11:06decreased by S1.3 million dollars overall.
- 11:09Now, this was largely due to that S4.3 million dollar fair value loss hitting them.
- 11:13It's worth noting, though, they were very active here. They made acquisitions
- 11:16of S34.9 million dollars, but that was mostly offset by disposals of S32.2 million
- 11:22dollars during the period.
- 11:23OK, so it sounds like a shrinking balance sheet overall, but one that's being
- 11:26actively managed, especially in that investment portfolio.
- 11:28Lots of buying and selling. What about cash flow? That's always critical.
- 11:31Are they burning through cash, or are they managing to generate some during this big shift?
- 11:35Unfortunately, it looks like they were burning through cash during this period.
- 11:38ALSET saw a net decrease in cash and cash equivalents of $7.4 million.
- 11:44That brought their total cash balance down to $18.8 million at the end of June
- 11:492025. So definitely a draw on their cash reserves.
- 11:52Okay, $7.4 million out the door. Where did that cash go?
- 11:57Operations, investing. It was spread across activities. cash used in operating
- 12:01activities was at $4.7 million.
- 12:04Now, this outflow was mainly related to that S11.zala loss before tax,
- 12:08but then it gets adjusted for all the non-cash items, like depreciation,
- 12:11those fair value changes we talked about, and the foreign exchange losses.
- 12:14Working capital changes actually had a mixed effect. A decrease in payables
- 12:18was largely offset by a decrease in receivables, but the net result was still
- 12:22cash flowing out from operations.
- 12:23Got it. And investing activities. Cash used in investing activities was $2.6
- 12:28million. This was mostly driven by purchasing S$34.8 million worth of financial assets.
- 12:34But as we noted from the balance sheet changes, that was largely offset by S$32.2
- 12:39million in proceeds they got from selling other financial assets.
- 12:42So net outflow from that active portfolio management.
- 12:45Right. Lots of churn, small net outflow and financing. Financing activities
- 12:49used a much smaller amount, only $30.2 million.
- 12:52That was primarily just for lease payments. No major debt changes or equity
- 12:56raises mentioned there.
- 12:57Okay. So putting it all together, while the income statement showed the really
- 13:00fascinating balancing act between revenue loss and offsetting factors.
- 13:04The balance sheet and cash flow paint a clearer picture of a shrinking overall
- 13:10footprint and, importantly, a definite draw on cash reserves to fund both the
- 13:15ongoing operations and that active investment strategy.
- 13:18It really underscores that this is a company very much in active transition,
- 13:22both financially and strategically. They're definitely right in the middle of a significant shift.
- 13:27Now, OK, we've dug deep into the numbers. We've seen the impact of these changes,
- 13:31let's talk about the future.
- 13:32What is ALSET looking at for the next reporting period, say, in the next 12 months?
- 13:36What's their actual plan to navigate all these changes and try to build for the future?
- 13:40Yeah, the company's commentary gives us some good clues here.
- 13:43They outline a pretty clear strategic reorientation.
- 13:48The focus seems to be on optimizing the assets they still have and actively
- 13:53exploring new opportunities, especially in property and investments.
- 13:58For their property development outlook, specifically thinking about that Black
- 14:01Oak project again, they're basically finalizing the remaining lot development
- 14:05and construction there.
- 14:06They're also evaluating four model home lots that were previously reserved.
- 14:10They're trying to decide whether to pursue contract build agreements for those
- 14:13or just sell them as finished lots.
- 14:16They say the decision will be based on market trends, trying to optimize value
- 14:19and maintain flexibility.
- 14:21So being very deliberate about
- 14:23getting the most value from those remaining Black Oak assets makes sense.
- 14:27What about new property ventures? Because property development is so capital
- 14:30intensive, how are they approaching that given the cash outflow?
- 14:34That's a key question. And yes, they are looking at new development.
- 14:37They mentioned actively pursuing a feasibility study on some raw land near a 500-year floodplain.
- 14:43The idea is to potentially create a new section, Section 5, with maybe seven or more lots.
- 14:49Here's the really interesting part, tying into your capital question.
- 14:52They have a strategic land sourcing plan.
- 14:55Their intention is to source land where local government agencies like the county
- 14:59or a special district will actually reimburse the majority of the infrastructure costs.
- 15:04Ah, so they're trying to shift some of that big upfront financial burden.
- 15:09Exactly. It's a very smart approach if they can pull it off.
- 15:11It aims to reduce their own capital outlay significantly, which is crucial in
- 15:16a capital-hungry industry-like development, especially when cash flow is negative.
- 15:20That is a significant strategic pivot, trying to leverage external funding for infrastructure costs.
- 15:26Very interesting. And what about the food and beverage business,
- 15:29the one they sold off? Is that chapter just completely closed for them now? Not entirely, it seems.
- 15:34While the direct operations were transferred with HWH International Inc.,
- 15:39ALSET still retains an interest.
- 15:40They hold marketable securities in HWH, making it an associate company.
- 15:45They state their intention is to participate in HWH's future growth through that holding.
- 15:50So they still have skin in the game, just indirectly.
- 15:53Furthermore, they explicitly say they remain open to exploring new F&B opportunities,
- 15:58but only ones that align with their revised strategic focus and can enhance shareholder value.
- 16:04Okay, so maybe a more opportunistic approach there. Less direct operational
- 16:07involvement, perhaps more investment-led if something comes up.
- 16:11That seems to be the implication, yeah. A less hands-on role than before.
- 16:14And their investment business. You mentioned they were very active buying and
- 16:17selling financial assets.
- 16:19Is that becoming a bigger strategic focus? Absolutely, it appears so.
- 16:23The commentary explicitly states the company will continue to explore potential
- 16:27investments in the shares of listed companies for the rest of FY 2025.
- 16:32This really underscores that move towards a more asset-light,
- 16:36maybe investment-focused model across the whole group.
- 16:39Their overall group strategy, as they stated, has a strong focus on optimizing
- 16:44their corporate structure, improving operational efficiency,
- 16:47and, crucially, reducing costs across the board.
- 16:51They also emphasize continuous monitoring of market trends, evaluating potential
- 16:55investments, and pursuing strategic collaborations to strengthen their market
- 16:59position and deliver, hopefully, sustainable long-term returns.
- 17:04So the key insight there might be that successful strategic pivots often involve
- 17:07shedding those direct operational burdens, maybe in favor of more capital efficient
- 17:11investment models or partnerships.
- 17:13It sounds like they're fundamentally reshaping the company's identity and its
- 17:16risk profile. I think that's a very good way to put it. Yes.
- 17:19So if I'm sort of understanding this big picture correctly, LSAT is essentially transforming.
- 17:25Moving away from being a direct operator of diverse businesses and becoming
- 17:29something more like an asset light investment focused entity,
- 17:32almost acting like a strategic holding company or a fund. Is that roughly the
- 17:36right way to look at this?
- 17:37Precisely. I think that captures the shift well. It signals a move away from
- 17:41maybe a broad conglomerate structure towards something more focused,
- 17:45potentially aiming for higher margin or more capital efficient ventures by leveraging
- 17:49strategic investments.
- 17:51And like with the property plan, external financing for major costs. Wow.
- 17:55What an incredible deep dive today into Allsit International Limited.
- 17:59Seriously fascinating stuff. We've seen a company undergoing a really significant
- 18:03transformation, a dramatic almost 100% drop in revenue, mostly due to strategic
- 18:09divestments and a pause in major property sales.
- 18:12Yet, remarkably, their overall loss for the period stayed almost stable.
- 18:15And that was thanks to this really complex interplay of factors.
- 18:19Increased finance income, lower admin costs from getting rid of operations and
- 18:23removing the losses from those discontinued ops altogether.
- 18:26We also saw how their balance sheet contracted and their cash reserves decreased
- 18:30as they navigate this transition, painting a clear picture of a company really
- 18:33in active strategic flux.
- 18:35Now, this whole journey, Elsa's story, it raises an important question,
- 18:39I think, for all of us, especially as you, our listeners, navigate your own
- 18:42investments and business interests.
- 18:43In today's really dynamic business environment, how do you actually assess a
- 18:48company's true value and its future potential when its core business is changing
- 18:52so much, when its financial performance is such a careful balancing act between
- 18:55strategic exits and new investments?
- 18:57What metrics do you look at, you know, beyond the obvious top and bottom lines
- 19:02to truly understand a company that's in transition like this?
- 19:05It really makes you think about the narrative behind the numbers, doesn't it?
- 19:08Well, we certainly hope this deep dive has given you some fresh perspectives
- 19:12and maybe a clearer understanding of LSAT International's current position and
- 19:16where they might be heading.