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- Matthew: So pretty interesting little conspiracy theory. This is not a long one, but this I think this kind of illustrates kind of a ⁓ point we can kind of kick around a little bit. This one's called the Phantom Time Hypothesis. So this is ⁓ the theory that basically part of the dark ages never existed. that it was ⁓ completely fabricated by the Church, by the Holy Roman Emperor. ⁓ Basically, they used it as, you you see a lot of ⁓ institutions and governments and whatnot just kind of putting their thumbs on the scale and kind of painting a different picture of who they are, why they should have the power they have. and things like that. So like I said, it's a pretty short one to run through. To be honest, there's a lot of historians that poke some pretty legitimate holes in this theory, but then there's also some holes that you can't really plug. mean, there's issues there. So... I'm not as a hundred percent behind this one. But again, I wanted to use this as kind of a jumping board or a diving board so to speak ⁓ to maybe spring golf into kind of man like what why people are so susceptible to stuff like this and obviously back then they had a way better excuse than than what we have today, but you can you know, it's just kind of kind of crazy to see that you can go as far back as you want to and you see just the same pattern of institutions, governments and what not just manipulating the people for their own benefit. David Smith: Sorry. Can y'all hear that dingin'? good because my wife keeps adding she keeps adding stuff to the grocery list and it keeps popping up I'm like I hope they don't hear this in the show I'm ruining the Phantom time I need some Phantom time to go back in a race in case y'all wonder we need milk and taco sauce but go ahead Greg Matthew: Yeah, no, I saw a funny post on X other day and it said it's funny how the winners, the good guys have won every war, right? I mean. David Smith: Yeah, the winner, the winner gets the story. Yep. Matthew: Yeah, absolutely. all right, diving into this one, Phantom Time. David Smith: I mean, I'm just saying if Hitler had won, maybe there'd be a different hero in the World War II. Matthew: ⁓ there absolutely would have been. that, listen, that's my favorite, that's my favorite time period in history is the 30s through probably the early 60s ⁓ on a global scale, as well as a domestic theater as well. And yeah, man, ⁓ we'll get into, ⁓ I've got an episode planned for Hitler and what really happened to Hitler after the Second World War. David Smith: Just saying. That's That's an odd time period to be your favorite time period. I appreciate it. Especially I like it. If it's the I've been watching, ⁓ doubt and happy again. And so the early twenties and early that that's kind of interesting. Only if you're rich, if you're not rich, not as fun. Same way with the thirties, not as fun if you wasn't rich, but Nina, can I introduce you to the eighties? Eighties were pretty bad ass, but go ahead, Matt. I'm sorry. Matthew: No, the 80s is legit the greatest. Now it's peak America. Peak America. actually saw so, so, know, ⁓ side note, Ted Turner passed away, right? David Smith: The greatest generation not just because of Reagan, but he helps. That's why I'm wearing this 1995 Braves cap baby. In memorial I just did a front porch with David episode. So I figured I'd break out the 1995 Braves cap. So yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry. Matthew: I love it. No, I was just saying it was I saw a flyer for the Braves like late 70s, early 80s when they were just horrible. And it had had Chief Nakahomer, right and his teepee out out and outfield. But what was what was really just peak America about this at the bottom, at the bottom ladies. David Smith: Oh, you talking about the... Yes. At the bottom there, I know where you're going with this. Matthew: Bring your t-shirts. We're having a wet t-shirt contest at the ballpark. David Smith: Better time my friends, better time. You only had like nine people go into the game, but I'd went to that game. Lord help me if I'd have went to that game when I was a kid. More of that, we need more of that. Matthew: way better. And during one of the losing streaks, he got on the PA announcement at the game and said, if you've got it, you're here. So you have a ticket, obviously. That ticket's good from now until we win a game. So just bring that ticket back tomorrow. We'll let you right back in and just keep on coming back till we win. David Smith: Gotta love Teddy. Gotta love some Ted. He is. Hmm? Yeah. If you hear see me and Matt looking goofy like we don't know what we're hearing is because we can't we can't hardly hear Greg He's got some internet issues. It's apparently raining or weathering down in a good old making, Georgia So we can't hardly hear him as much so if you see Matt and I looking at the screen like That's because we don't know what the hell he said But I think what he was going on about the fact is hardly anybody went to the game back then and you could damn near play if you wanted at some point if you But it had a ticket there's a chance you might be able to pinch hit at least you could bring in coolers I mean, foul ball is to go get a foul ball, you'd have to go run and get it. Not because everybody else was chasing it, it was because nobody else was there. You had to run because it was so far away from you. You can go about nine sections over and get the foul ball. And before Monica Sellers got stabbed, they used to have where you could come out, the players would like walk out to get their cars and everything. And I remember this spot in Fulton County State where you go out, you get autographs, we'd wait forever and watch them get in their cars. It was a good time. mean, that was Fulton County Stadium, Ted Turner, the team of the nineties, worst of firsts. Everything about it was just fantastic. But Ted Turner, I went a little bit out on my front porch with David show. Man, got to give him credit. Brought back the Buffalo, brought back the Buffalo. Matthew: brought it back and I'm gonna tell you. David Smith: Well, it was all good till that happened turns out when they start stabbing folks, you don't get us easy access to the ⁓ sports guys Matthew: I'll tell you, listen, hey, talking about the Bison, Bison Burger at Ted's, it's legit. It's good. David Smith: Don't sleep on it. Don't sleep on it. And the little pickles that they gain with the garlic. But I say this Ted, you effed up with them straws. The straws suck ass, okay? I can't even, about three sips in and the damn thing's falling apart in my mouth. You screwed me with the straws, Ted. I love your burgers. By the you give me options on ground beef. I didn't come to Ted's Montana to get cow. I came to get bison. I don't know why I want no beef. I want bison, son. But. Matthew: Yeah, they're terrible. David Smith: The straws, you screwed me Ted. Meatloaf in there? Don't sleep on it. Don't sleep on it. Ted's is, mean, Greg, has Macon got a Ted yet? Matthew: ⁓ best. It's so good. David Smith: I guess not. Matthew: No, no tids, but I'll tell you what, they did, there's a Raising Canes that's about to open on Riverside Drive. And I'm telling you, you in for it, because that is delicious. David Smith: ⁓ His daughter's gonna love it. ⁓ man, I'll take Huey McGoo's any day. And I'll tell you what's better than Huey McGoo's, Super Chicks. If you got a Super Chicks by you, that's fire. The Rosemary Fries. Matthew: I don't think they allow strip clubs in Bibb County. David Smith: Well, listen, it's not that super chick. That super chicks in Fort Valley. Funny story. I will get back to your phantom thing. First strip club ever went to was in Fort Valley, Georgia. It was connected to a gas station and it was a sight to see my friend Wesley. We walk in. I should leave this story for another show, but I'll just tell it here. We walk in. I'm sitting there next to my buddy Wesley, which you've ever met. You'll know I'm like, dude. Matthew: you ⁓ David Smith: This is crazy, right? And I look over, I'm talking about the second we walk in, I look to my right, he's no longer there. I look at the stage, he's already at the stage with a dollar bill in his mouth. I'm like, how did you, talking about Phantom Time. He phantom-ly just went and inviscorated himself over to the, to the, to the pole. I couldn't even speak, the stage. And if you're familiar with Fort Valley, you can imagine the type that we saw. And it was, it was interesting. But I'm sorry, I said that was before the episode I was gonna stay quiet, but Greg's internet messing up, it's got me screwed up, so I just start talking nervously. But Phantom Time Hypothesis. Matthew: Nah, it's alright, we'll just ignore. We just ignore Greg on this one. You about got me started talking about the cheetah being cloaked down. Another Atlanta legend biting the dust. David Smith: Easy now, easy. You want to stay married? Speaking of sports stars of the 90s, that's where you could find them all. Well, I'm glad Greg Hears is fine at least. Matthew: That's right. Greatest day of my life. My best friend's bachelor party there. Greatest day of my life. Other than my wedding and my children being born. David Smith: Nice. You said it first. You know what you you already said it too late. Matthew: Astrid. All right, phantom time hypothesis. We'll write it back in here. basically this is the theory that part of the mill ages were made up and specifically roughly from 614 to 911 just never happened almost three. David Smith: 9-11 there's that number again Matthew: It always circles back to 9-11. So a German researcher, historian researcher, ⁓ his last name is I-L-L-I-G, I believe that's E-Lig is how you pronounce that. He came up with this in 1991. ⁓ The theory is that certain scribes and officials basically under the direction from the Roman Catholic Church David Smith: Hmm. Matthew: faked manuscripts, charters, deeds for land, all those kind of things to fill in a gap of history that had not happened yet. And the reason behind it was, at that time period, the Roman Empire had fallen, split into two empires, East and the West. And the rulers of... basically what was left wanted to legitimize themselves. And then, you know, obviously back then lineage and things like that kind of meant more than it does now. ⁓ Also, ⁓ it was kind of a big deal to them for whatever ruler to be in place at a thousand AD, a thousand years after Christ. That was a big deal to them. So the... Basically, the Holy Roman Emperor Otto III was kind of the main conspirator in this theory and he was the main beneficiary. David Smith: Hold on the Emperor Emperor battled name Otto Matthew: Auto. Like auto. David Smith: Just say I want something more regal than Otto. Jeez, I feel like this spot, Otto, come on, Matthew: Yeah, they had some that were a little, yeah, and then, well, here's the next one, Pope Sylvester II. So you got Otto and Sly, they're involved in on this thing. ⁓ He was Otto III's ⁓ advisor, teacher, co-conspirator, so to speak, in this thing. ⁓ And they basically, again, David Smith: My man Sylvester in the Heasy, baby. Nice. Matthew: their, the theory behind it. David Smith: Fun fact, ⁓ I hate to interrupt, you know that the Pope, you said Pope Sylvester? Matthew: ⁓ It was Pope Sylvester II. David Smith: Yeah. Do you know who he beat out for that spot? Matthew: ⁓ I'm going to go with Mr. I was going to Pope T. David Smith: Pope Apollo, Pope Apollo, ironically. Pope T, Pope Mr. T, that'd be Club of Lang to you, sir. Pope Lang, but he ain't beat out Pope Apollo. Who would've thunk it? Pope Creed. All right, go ahead. Matthew: together on some level. ⁓ So we've all heard of Charlemagne, Charlemagne the Great. No, ⁓ not that guy. Charlemagne the David Smith: The God? Yeah, another one? Not that guy? Boy, talk about being pretentious. You call yourself Charlemagne, the God? Come on, Breakfast club my ass. Matthew: Mm-hmm. Yeah. THA. ⁓ David Smith: Yeah, so it makes it different. Yeah. Take the E out. Matthew: That's different, yeah. Not blasphemous if there's no extra T on there. That's it. basically Charlemagne, and if you look at the history of Charlemagne, it does seem fishy. Apparently this guy did everything. was a famous quote that I've... I read while researching this, it's like you would need four lifetimes to do what Charlamagne did in his one short lifetime, like mathematics. Yeah, first time ever playing golf. David Smith: Is this like the Kim Jong Un when he scored like an 18 on a golf course? He wrote 75,000 books and all that. Turns out if you're an emperor or a leader, you can kind of just say what you want. People gotta believe it. Even get your haircuts like it. I like that he made everybody get haircuts like him. I appreciate that. That's pretty cool. Matthew: Yeah, absolutely. Oh yeah. I don't know what Charlamagne's haircut was. David Smith: I'm gonna go out on a limb a little bit of a skull it I'm guessing he was bald up here had a long string in the back Kenny Powers like Matthew: I can see that. I can see that. Sounds right. Sounds right. So. David Smith: Sounds like Charlamagne, don't Let's go with it. Hey, apparently we don't know if it even existed. So hell, we can make up whatever we want. They can't prove it. Phantom time. They can't prove it. Go ahead. Matthew: whatever you want it to be. So basically they created a hero. Now, even among believers of this conspiracy theories, basically half think Charlemagne existed, half thinks he didn't. The half that thinks he did exist basically thinks that He was kind of nowhere near the person that they made him out to be. So they basically created a hero for the time period that didn't exist. They fabricated documents. They fabricated deeds and everything to create this time. Some of the things that's interesting about it. David Smith: sure he existed. There was just probably some exaggerated stats, shall we say. Kind like when I tell my kids about my athletic ability back in the day. Was I athletic? Yes. Was I as athletic as I lead on? Maybe not. They might be a little exaggerated. Not a whole lot. Four home runs, Greg. Four home runs. K-Hot stats. That's in the record book, Matthew: You're about to go albundy here. David Smith: That's my four home runs is my four touchdowns for Al Bundy. It was not poke high. I think it was the beer batters, but close enough, close enough. Matthew: Close enough, same thing. ⁓ There are some interesting things when you look at this. There's a scarcity of archeological finds that date back to that age gap. So there's nowhere near as much... ⁓ archaeological evidence as you would think should be there. ⁓ One of the interesting things that somebody brought up when I was looking this stuff up was there's not a jump in our architectural styles from there. Like basically all the buildings after this time period look almost identical to the ones before this time period. So it was like there was nothing, nothing, nothing. And then all of a sudden the Renaissance happened and then things took off and things got ticking again, which I'd always, you you hear that, you learn about that in school and you're like, ⁓ the dark ages and nobody could read and nobody basically did anything. They just kind of laid around and died of various plague plagues and then. David Smith: So are we living in the dark ages right now? I guess 200 years from now they might look at us as the dark ages. Cause if you ever try to listen to your kid read these days, I'm like, what the today junior, we can't read? What's going on with kids these days? There's just, but I go ahead. I digress. People die in a plagues, AKA COVID. saying. At some point we might be looked at as the dark ages. I just want to be known if this recording's out, much like Charlemagne. Matthew: My wife's a teacher. I hear it. ⁓ Yeah. David Smith: My art, my athletic ability was not exaggerated. was the fact that athletic I was me and Charlamagne, just so you know. Matthew: You and Charlemagne, they're knocking it down. ⁓ you know, looking at this whole thing, and again, like I said, this is a short kind of conspiracy theory, like here's what they did, here's why they did it. One of the interesting things to me, the most interesting thing about why they did this, supposedly, is that David Smith: Sorry Matt, my bad. Matthew: the church got upset that the date of Easter kept moving. So, because there was various calendars used back then and looking at all this stuff, you realize you really don't know. You have no idea where you are in time because there were countless numbers of different calendars that were used up until ⁓ kind of the modern day calendar that was established during this time by the church. ⁓ David Smith: Mm-hmm. Matthew: But they, so basically what they did was they went back and they figured up where Easter should be, where Easter should fall. And they issued a decree that said, hey, you go to bed tonight, when you wake up tomorrow, it's actually gonna be 10 days later than it is right now. David Smith: Golly. Matthew: So they were like that was kind of their adjustment for Easter. Now when you look at that a lot of the people that are supporters of this theory say well that doesn't make sense because it should it should been 13 days off. If it was 10 days 10 days off then that basically if you do the math and count backwards on that The only way it could only be 10 days off is if there was this time period, again, roughly 300 years that never happened. If those 300 years had happened, then it should have been 13. David Smith: wild. That's odd. So they just basically eliminated 10 days. Matthew: Yeah, they slight well, listen, today's the first. David Smith: This said you're gonna go to you it said you said they did a decree is like who you you you go. Matthew: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the first, but guess what? In the morning, it's going to be the 11th. So just so you know. David Smith: This is how much that throws stuff off. Matthew: Yeah, I mean it's nuts man to think about how much just power they had back then. I mean you think about most people couldn't read. ⁓ The ones that could read, only thing they could read was basically things that the church would release to them. I mean it's not like you could go down and just pick up, ⁓ you know, an Alex Jones book and see read about turning the frogs gay, you know, and stuff like that. mean, it's like, it was just like. David Smith: They just shut down the, dang, why can't I think of his name of the company? Infowars, they just had his last little show and I guess he's gonna come back at something else. Matthew: and for Warfares. He's back, baby. Go to Alex Jones, Alex Jones Network, Alex Jones Live on X. Alex Jones, friend of the show. plug for Alex Jones. ⁓ David Smith: He's back already. Hey, turn to the frogs. Turn in the frogs gay. Come on now Bohemian Grove. He was right about that though He was right about every time something he says kooky you like yeah, but he was right about Bohemian Grove Matthew: Alright. Dude. Did I tell people all the time like something way out that he'll say and I go, okay, I get it. It sounds like crazy. Give it six months. Cause I've put a lot of dollars in the Alex Jones was right jar over the years. mean, so I mean this whole thing, I don't know. Like he did a show on Rogan years ago and David Smith: Yeah, shockingly. Matthew: Rogan's like, well, what's the big enchilada? Like, what's the, you know, the biggest thing going on? like, okay, I'm going to tell you what it is. Interdimensional entities and the elite are trying to connect with them and they're trying to level up and they blah, blah, blah. So he goes on this like rant, this like, dude, that dude dropped acid talking about interdimensionals. crossing over into our dimension and the elites are connecting with them and they're giving them technology and information and in return they're sacrificing children to them and blah blah blah. Well, I don't know if you saw well, no, I sent you a thing yesterday where supposedly they called all these pastors in because they're going to do UFO disclosure within the next 60 to 90 days and they basically told him again, not verified but David Smith: Yep. I just heard that. Matthew: from the leaks that was coming out, they told them, listen, they're gonna tell you that these are not interplanetary, they're interdimensional entities, and that they have technology to cross over to our reality, and that they seeded us here on this planet. I mean, listen, I don't, dude, that's getting into some heavy stuff. That ties back into David Smith: I mean. Matthew: Roswell that we talked about about the information that they may or may not have given Jimmy Carter and he's then his assistant walks in the Oval Office and sees him with his head head buried in his hands crying because of the information that he learned that you know that kind of stuff. David Smith: We'll definitely question your faith and what you believe in as far as religion when it comes to that kind of thing. Yeah. Matthew: ⁓ it could be earth shattering. in that episode, I don't think I got to it, but they actually did. George W. Bush administration was considering disclosure according to several whistleblowers ⁓ in the administration. And they, commissioned a study to see what the, what the impact would be financially, theologically and socially. And they came back to him and they said, it would be catastrophic. You can't do. One of the big things was they were worried about if it if if it dispells for a large number of people their religion then society will break down and you see I mean you see that you see that in society today because if you don't live in a high trust society Then you're living in hell on earth. And the only way you live in a high trust society is if somebody basically I mean to be blind and people won't admit this but the truth is if somebody thinks they're going to have to pay for the wrongs that they've done in this life in the next life then that forces a high trust society that forces people to do the right thing and if you don't have that if there's nothing after this life or if everything kind of sorts out for everybody after this life or if there's a chance to make up for the wrong that you did after this life then people don't act like they David Smith: Yeah. Matthew: like they used to. Like all the problems that we see now with, they always say you can't legislate morality and you can't, I mean you can have a free society but the freer your society is, the more the people have to have some type of faith that they can self-regulate themselves. And absent that, then the power of the government has to increase and you have to start moving toward a more totalitarian state or else people die. David Smith: Well, people, we have shitty people now and there's a faith that people believe in, a morality that people believe in. Take that away and imagine the amount of shitty people will go up exponentially because right now you have people that are like, well, you know, even if they say they don't, especially in America, they do still have some sort of faith or thinking of there's an afterlife or anything like that. If you were to have something come out that would take that away, what's gonna stop? the somewhat good people from just turning into shitty people because what's the point? It will definitely hurt things. And like you said, the shitty people will go up a lot. Okay. Matthew: ⁓ absolutely. And there's a large segment of the population, especially here in the South, that are default religious. Like they're not really, but they kind of are. You know what I mean? Like they have no depth to ⁓ what they believe. It's just what they were born into, but it still regulates them to a certain degree or maybe even to a large degree. Yeah. David Smith: Mm-hmm. still have a somewhat right or wrong mindset. Matthew: Yeah, and that could that I think that segment of the population would be most affected by that because they have no deeply. They're they're not deeply rooted in it, so it would be way easier for them to let it go. But. David Smith: ⁓ yeah, I mean even now you don't see many people go to church except for Easter Sunday and Christmas time. You got Greg who can't get his internet working right, but he goes all the time. You back Greg? Can you at least talk and can we hear you? Matthew: Yeah. David Smith: That being though, we can see ya, but just nod your head. Matthew: No. No, that doesn't work either. Hey, that's all right. It's a two-man show. We got it. We got it rolling. David Smith: I mean, I'm glad I came on today. I was going to not come on. was like, I just want to listen to this one because I'm still not a hundred percent, but I thankfully I'm saving the show Greg. Cause you can't get your internet working right. Geez. This is his, this is his baby too. And he's just letting it slide. If I had a mind of people that listen to weird friends, I would make sure my internet work right. You know what saying? I would make sure I'd go out of my way. Matthew: Listen, I've carried. David Smith: Get the extender, Greg. Get the AT &T extender. Matthew: ⁓ He's nodding, thumbs up, he's sending up smoke signals that he's okay. David Smith: But yes, if you have an absence of religion, if it is proven that's the case, which it sounds like that's maybe not proven that it's not religious, but it's not as strong as it is based on what that if they're telling pastors to prepare for that, then that would definitely hurt society. I believe. And you have a lot of people that'll say, well, most of the wars start based on religion. Yeah, but there's also a lot of. keeps a lot of people in check. Matthew: Well, that's the dark theory behind it, is that the world's major religions were created by other entities to keep us from killing each other and exterminating each other. And I can't say, I'm not saying that I believe that, but I'm saying that's 100%, I can 100 % understand why. If I were creating a society, a science experiment, like, David Smith: Hmm. Matthew: like they talk about we may be. I'd do that 100%. What am I gonna do, like put all these monkeys on a planet and then just let them go wild? Like no, I mean that, you know. David Smith: Well, not to say that that is the case, because I don't know, I guess we'll all know one day, but it's kind of the theory of me telling my kids, say this elf, this elf on a shelf. If you put the elf on the shelf in order to make your kids behave, because they think that's gonna have repercussions of them not getting toys or presents, then it's kind of the same theory with that. Matthew: ⁓ absolutely. that's, you know, I struggled with that when my wife and I had kids because I didn't want to do all of that. I didn't want to do the Christmas Santa and all that. But I also wanted my kids to experience the joy of childhood. I didn't want to take that away from them. you know, circling back to this, you know, could the church have erased David Smith: ⁓ yeah. Matthew: roughly 300 years at that point in time in human history, absolutely with the snap of their fingers. And I don't think for a second that those people that were in charge would have worried about it. I don't think they'd have had one issue with it, not one iota. They'd have done it, never thought about it, and used that to say, listen, my lineage has gone back hundreds of years. My claim to this land has gone back hundreds of years. This is why. you should listen to me. ⁓ look, I'm ruling exactly at 1000 AD. It's been a thousand years since Christ ⁓ walked the earth. I must be special. So 100 % they would do it. Did they do it? I don't know. But that's enough. That's an example of just their willingness to lie. And I always tell my kids like the worst thing you can do is lie. Like if you go out and you steal something, I'm not happy with that. That is horrible. But guess what? The worst thing you can do is lie about it. The worst thing you can do, regardless of what you've ever done is lie because it eats you from the inside out and it's like a cancer that spreads to everybody around you. So I've always told my kids, yeah, I've always told my kids, I'll never lie to you. I'll never lie to you. David Smith: creates distrust to. Matthew: And so like now my kids are so smart, especially my girl. She is like off the charts like gifted, gifted program, da da da. Like I was taking her to school this morning and she's like, dad, I don't like math. I said, but you're so good at math. She's like, yeah, but everything we study is so easy. I need something harder. And like she's not lying. She's not lying. She's legit. David Smith: Now that was a lie. My boys don't say that. You and Greg got those gifted kids. are special in a short bus type way, but not gifted. Matthew: No, listen, when it comes to math, I was functionally retarded. I'm going to be honest with you. So I David Smith: God bless them. So this is where they do the math today. I'm like, I can't even begin to help you. I don't even know how y'all do this. Why we gotta get, why do I gotta go this far down to get to the same answer? But anyways. Matthew: No. Exactly. so that's, you know, and so like I said, they're super smart and they think about stuff like, I don't know, fortunately or unfortunately, especially my oldest boy, he thinks about stuff like I do. And I know that's going to be a problem for him later in life because there's a saying, I can't remember who said it, it's like if you stare at the abyss long enough, the abyss will stare back. Oh, Nietzsche said that. Yeah, I was part of their Chicken Littles ad campaign one time. But no, Nietzsche said that and it's true because like all of this stuff and people ask me why I'm a... David Smith: ⁓ that was Colonel Sanders. I don't know. Yeah. Matthew: Like why does it matter if the church erased 300 years? Why does it matter who killed JFK? You can't do anything about it. This, that, and other. And I always tell them I'm obsessed with all of it because I think that we are put here on this earth, one of the highest callings we can have is to search for the truth. And you may never find it. But I think going through that process of searching, there's value in that. for your psyche, your soul, for just the person that you are. And it hardens you and it educates you and it does a lot of things for you even if you never get to the answer. So again, my kids will say, well, like my oldest boy the other day, he was asking me like really deep theological stuff. And dude, I don't know. I don't know. And so I just tell him, I'm like, bud, I said, dad's trying to figure that out too. I said, to the best of my knowledge and ability, this is kind of what I think is probably true. But I can't tell you that 100 % for sure, because I don't know. anyway, I was. I was telling my wife the other day, one of the things that drives me the most crazy about people is, and I see this a lot on X, like really blatantly illustrated on X, like there are very smart people on every side of every argument. are like 160 IQ people that believe in Kinsey and economics, and there are 160 IQ people that believe 180 degree opposite. So intelligence, really doesn't factor in. mean, a base level intelligence does, but the higher the intelligence or the higher the IQ, it doesn't factor in for me in finding the true answer most of the time. What factors in the most and what almost everybody lacks is intellectual honesty. And that's the hardest thing. like, for example, again, was, and know, Greg knows that I had, cancer like several years ago. And I was like, wow, this is absolutely wild because ⁓ here I am finally life is going great. I got the best wife I could ask for. I got the best three kids. House is good. Everything's going good. And then while you get hit with this and then all of a sudden for me personally, I'm like, well, I better kind of start really understanding what I believe because all the Sunday School lessons, all the Sunday School stories, like I've quoted them my whole life. I've studied them my whole life. I've done all that my whole life. But do really believe it? Like do you really? Do you really? And I know like, for example, ⁓ gosh, what's this name? The Canadian. David Smith: John Madden. Matthew: No, blasphemous. man, Jordan Peterson. I know he's kind of gone off the rails to a certain degree and it's probably from looking at all this stuff all the time because it will definitely send you off the rails. David Smith: Pat Summerall. Jordan Peterson, Jordan Peterson. Yes. I like his book, I started to read it, but I gotta read it with a dictionary right beside me. Like, a lot of big words, a lot of big words. I'm like, bro, you need to speak to the common man. Matthew: Yeah, so. Yeah, but he had a great point. He's like, if you tell me you believe something, how much do you believe it? So at that time in my life, was looking at, I was really focused specifically on religion. I'm like, if I believe this is true, and I believe it more than anything, if I'm a 10 out of 10, what would I be doing right now? And I don't know anybody and that, ⁓ I mean, that's me. I'm not, you know, talking down about anybody. I don't know anybody that I could say, ⁓ they believe it a 10 out of 10 based off what they do. Because the only thing that would matter is trying to save someone else's soul. If you're a 10 out of a 10, you don't worry about your light bill. You don't worry about your gas bill. You don't worry about how you're going to pay for your kid's clothes or your kid's school. And you hear that and that's like radical, but that's literally what it says. Like that's literally what it said. Like you would be hair on fire, gone every day. you know, and then if you were a 10 out of 10, think a lot of people, if you're not married, you wouldn't even get married because your only thing would be. David Smith: I get what you're saying, yeah. Matthew: And I think it was, I think it was Paul, one of the apostles after Christ died, he even said, I wish you were like me, that you were not married, that you could just preach all day, every day. And that's the only thing, you know, paraphrase. But so, then I'm like, well, my gosh, okay, it's not a 10 out of 10. So where is it? Is it a five out of 10? Is it a three out of 10? And then I start looking around, I'm like, Dang, man, there's a lot of people that, like, this is just inherited for them. This isn't even a one out of 10. This is just like, well, I was born in Georgia, so I'm a Braves fan. Like, you know, it's just, it's wild. David Smith: I get what you're saying. I understand the concept behind it. ⁓ You know, it's a tough situation. I don't know if you saw Theo Vaughn, you saw him struggling with it the other day as well as he posted on his thing talking about, you know, if you could be saved, would you even want to be saved? It's, you know, I don't, or you want to be healed rather. It's, it's an odd, it's a battle for sure. ⁓ and I could see where the information they're talking about coming out being the case that that would make people question it even more so. But as you said, having a 10 out of 10 faith is. Matthew: So. David Smith: Really impossible because there's always a question of whether you know or not, but I guess we won't know until that day comes. But I guess that's why they call it faith instead of actuality because you got to have faith in it. Matthew: Yeah, and my wife is so different than me. I'll go on a rant at night, something I read, and I'm like, okay, well, I've looked at this in the Greek, and now I've looked at it in the Hebrew. I'm like, ⁓ my gosh, this does not mean anything close to what I always thought it meant. So now I go on a 30-minute diatribe to my poor wife that's sitting on the sofa across from me while we're trying to eat dinner. David Smith: She's like, dear God, why didn't I just date some other dude that didn't get this deep into this? Matthew: And so then at the end I'm like, you know, I'm waiting for this reaction like, ⁓ my God, it's an epiphany for me too. And she just looks at me she's like, well, yeah, I just, you know, I just choose to believe it. I'm like, but I can't do that. Like I can't just like, I have to know as much, knowing that I'll never know it fully. David Smith: Yeah. Matthew: I still have to know as much as I can know to get to a place of comfort. so going back to this with the phantom time hypothesis, one of the things that makes that hard, that makes it difficult, not just in faith, but with every area of life is that for centuries, the church, the Roman Catholic Church controlled every bit of information. from, for basically all of Europe. And now moving into a secular area of life away from religion, the vast amount of control that the government has, that the United States government has over information, over resources, over finances, over all of that, when you start looking back at that and you're like, well, there's like, there's always fuckery, Like, there's always, always, in everything. And so, am I gonna believe that this is the one time in human history that one of the most corrupt organizations that is at least corrupt modern, in modern times, that they always did the right thing, or that they did the right thing a majority of the time, or that they even did anything right. So, that is a struggle in the religion aspect. It's a struggle in your secular life because just like the church erasing 300 years, what has our secular governments erased from us? I mean, you know, have they erased, just like a great example of the guy that... invented the car that I think it's the one that ran on water. ⁓ It's actually, I think it's specifically hydrogen, but there was a process he invented where it would separate the hydrogen out of the water. Dude, yeah, he's at dinner one night with his friends and he stands up in public, grabs his throat and yells, they've poisoned me, runs out in the street and falls over dead. David Smith: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ that got rid of his ass. Well, they also, made tires, you know there's tires that don't go flat. Matthew: Yeah, absolutely. So all of that is just David Smith: You know what else they make is a damn straw that does not dissolve in your mouth, Ted Turner. RIP Ted, but get your shit right at Montana Grill. Matthew: Miss that guy, Mount for the South. But yeah man, like you see all these institutions and you're just like, how in the world, like if they can just erase a whole section of history, if they can erase technology that... that would benefit all mankind, zero point energy, free energy, know, care, cures, like cancer, like that's 100 % a scam. You cannot tell me, you can't tell me that... David Smith: Ain't no money in cures, there's money in treatment. Matthew: Hundreds and hundreds of millions trip probably a trillion dollars a year like all these fundraisers all this government research da da da da da For decades on end the smartest people working on it and you've got nothing you got nothing you're like ⁓ well, we're gonna inject you with a bunch of poison and then hold you under a microwave and just let it cook you and hope that that works There's no way David Smith: It's odd. I know I agree. It's something that we probably have a show on that I'm thankful that they're saving boobies I appreciate that but there is a lot of money that goes into all this and I'm sure Advancement wise it's been drastic with it. What has happened, but boy does it I'm with you I feel like we should have a cure by this point. It should be a cancer vaccine If we're gonna do take that I mean my god if we can get rid of the mumps or something you might seem like you can get rid of cancers, but Matthew: Well, there's also... David Smith: I want to have faith that that's not the case, that they're not sitting on a cure just so they can make money. But as you said, there's a lot of things that cause distrust, like the possibly 300 years being taken away. Matthew: Yeah, absolutely. Well, you know, ⁓ I don't know that I've mentioned it before on one of these podcasts, but ⁓ Mel Gibson, also a friend of the show, he was on Rogan and he just kind of randomly, he was talking about three, was either three or four friends that he had that had stage three or stage four cancer. And he was kind of hesitant about it. And he said, yeah, they're all, it's all gone now. It's all in remission. And Rogan said, what did they take? And he said, you know what they take. You knew what they, you know what they took. And he goes, really? And he goes, yeah. And it was like this kind of awkward pause about it. And you can go back and look. It's a great interaction. You can look up just, you know, type in Mel Gibson. No. David Smith: Yeah. Was that the stem? Was he talking about stem cells? What was he talking about? Matthew: talking about Ivermectin, finbendazole, I think those were the main two. There is a third one, but Ivermectin, finbendazole. And, you know, Ivermectin was the big deal during COVID. And everybody's like, ⁓ it's Horstie Warmer and da-da-da-da. Well, the guy that invented it won the Nobel Prize for it. ⁓ Yeah, they leave that part out. Yeah. And so he was David Smith: Yeah. Yeah, they leave that part out. They don't mention that part. That's like saying water. Water is ⁓ a horse hydrator. I'm like, okay, they drink water, but we can still drink water. That don't mean that's the main point of it, but Matthew: Yeah. No, absolutely. so they did, I was listening to a researcher that was doing a presentation about it he said, obviously cancer is not a virus, but there are many mechanisms within the cancer process that are very, very similar to the way a virus acts, progresses, lives, reproduces, whatever. And that... finbenazole and ivermintin is not a miracle drug, does not cure all cancer, it does not do all that, but it does, and a lot of people send it into remission. Various types of cancers, even late stage cancers, it does show tremendous promise. And that was actually... in a batch of CIA documents that was recently declassified, it's listed now on CIA.gov, you can go in there and look at it, where the CIA knew in the 50s that iverbactin is a very, valuable tool in treating cancer. And so like when I was going through it, now I'm on the other end of it, and I'm like kinda pissed, right? Because I'm like, you know, what right? David Smith: Yeah. Did you have to undergo chemotherapy? Matthew: I refuse chemo, just do radiation. But I was like, what right do you have to withhold anything from me because it's a drug that can't be patented and you can buy it for pennies? So I would have... David Smith: Radiation. Kind of like the drug that was the guy that I guess he had some kind of AIDS medication that really helped out. And he also bought like the Wu Tang last album or something. He ended up going to jail because he raised the prices to a degree that was unaffordable by damn near everybody. I can't remember his name, but you know what I'm talking about? Matthew: ⁓ I know what you're talking about. No, I was thinking about Dallas Fire's Club with ⁓ Matthew McCallahey. yeah, yeah. David Smith: ⁓ Yeah, well that was AZT and all that. was two and more damage. You know who was behind all that? Matthew: ⁓ Fauci. Yeah, ⁓ the way. David Smith: Dr. Fauci hmmm let's leave that the part that he pretty much killed all them people with AZT back in the day Matthew: Yeah, and listen, you know, he just got an award from the president and he's not going to be prosecuted. David Smith: He made an award from Biden when he was president. Matthew: Nope, I mean from Trump, from the Trump administration. Yep. And he's not going to be prosecuted. Now that's going to happen. David Smith: Trump got him an award? What? Well, I knew he had been pardoned from actions in the past and in the future, which I don't know how the hell you even do that, but... Matthew: No. So it's listen it what who is that? ⁓ What is the comedian? ⁓ David Smith: Cat Williams, Dave Chappelle, Eddie Griffith, Nate Bargazzi, Brian Regan. Matthew: Hold on, I'm about to tell you. George Carlin. David Smith: I didn't give a that's the long ways you should have said old comedian Matthew: So he goes, he has that great quote. says, he says, it's a big club and you're not in it. And guess what? It's been a club since they are possibly erased 300 years. It's been a club since, you know, moving forward, uh, since they, uh, the Tuskegee experiments, you know, they're, they're dosing people up with crap that they don't even know what. David Smith: Yeah, that's pretty much it. Matthew: what it is, don't even know they're getting dosed with it. It's been a big club from everything, Gulf of Tonkin incident, Iraq weapons of mass destruction, this Iran bullshit that's going on. It's all a big club and we're not in it and you know. David Smith: There's a whole lot of stuff that happened in the 60s that you could have whole Podcasts year by year of the 60s with the LSD with the drugs talking about Fauci and bringing in RFK RFK jr. RFK itself the assassination there's questions with that with old Suhan Suhan or whether or not he was doped up or drugged up in order to Do the assassination of him, but we'll get into that in a later episode Matthew: So I think that may be our next episode. want to dig into ⁓ MKUltra. All of that ties into ⁓ Operation Midnight Climax, Jolly West, also the doctor ⁓ he went to treat. dog on it, I'm losing my mind here. ⁓ David Smith: Hmm. Matthew: the guy that shot Oswald. ⁓ He went to see Jack Ruby in his prison cell and then he left and all of sudden Ruby's lost his mind. He's screaming saying he sees Jews everywhere that are on fire. And then the MK Ultra experiments, he ran all that, he was tied into all that, which is actually what Stranger Things TV show was based on. David Smith: ⁓ Ruby. Mm-hmm. Matthew: ⁓ was in k ultra program it was originally going to be called project mong talk which is where it was where it was really the center of all that so anyway point of it is yeah i want to get into all that probably the next episode and ⁓ will go deeper into into some ways that the ⁓ that the powers that be keep us out of their club and and hide things from us like again they possibly just ⁓ hit David Smith: Yeah. Matthew: two or three centuries from us at one point in time. David Smith: Well, I'm interested in that and I'm thankful that guys like you do exist because if you told me like, hey, there's like 300 years from, you know, if you told me 300 years in 1800s or whatever, I'd be like, well, hold on now. Like if it's that close, I'm gonna be upset. But when you mentioned the fact that it's that far back, there's guys like me that go, okay, whatever. I mean, if you told me 1100 to 1400s missing, I'd be like, who cares? But there's a big... Something comes of that. It comes with a lot of price to pay if that does happen and it is seen to be true that they erased it. So I'm glad people like you are questioning that. We need people questioning more things in order to get to the truth. Matt Gregg has not paid his internet bill. Apparently things are tough at the old Miller household. He's got to keep up with young wifey. He's got to spend a lot of money on her. So his internet bill is down. So he is out this episode, but I think I'll be honest, we might have to change the name. ⁓ weird friends with Matt and David. We've had to kick Greg out. Hopefully he's not listening, but he wasn't able to get it done. But that brought it around back to clubs. Me going to strip club in Fort Valley all the way to Jack Rubin who owns clubs. And we'll get into that next episode. MK ultra. That is the, so what is the theory again? Hi pop the photo phantom. Matthew: The Phantom Time Hypothesis. David Smith: Phantom time hypothesis. Take a look at it. Let us know what you think. Listen, tell what Matt might have got missed or I know I got everything wrong, but see what Matt may have incorrectly said. Let us know. Reach out to Greg's Facebook. Let him know what he thinks. ⁓ Be sure to check in next time for the MK Ultra episode. Go back, listen to the JFK episode. Go back, listen to the UFO. Are what are we? AIPs? that what they're called? Matthew: UAPs is fancy term. ⁓ David Smith: UAPs go listen to that and Well, I don't know what the hell i'm talking about in most of this but go back and listen to that But that's it for episode three of weird friends with matt and greg I am your host david since greg's not available. He'll be back next time Hopefully when they don't have any rain going on in macon georgia matt. I appreciate it, buddy See you bud Matthew: See you guys.