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2026 Summer Movie Awards · Presented by Speaking Human

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  Speaker 2: What we've got here is failure to communicate. Take a
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  Speaker 1: We might as well.
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  Speaker 2: Have a good time. I am an FBI agent. All right, Patrick,
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  Speaker 2: it's that time again. Sadly.
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  Speaker 1: Sadly.
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  Speaker 2: Sadly. We've reached the end of the summer, the conclusion
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  Speaker 2: of Labor Day weekend, which, you know, for us marks
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  Speaker 2: the official end of summer. What that means is also
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  Speaker 2: that the summer movie season is over. It's done. Leaving
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  Speaker 2: in its wake a number of box office triumphs and failures.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, it also means the end of our summer
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  Speaker 2: movie drafts. Our annual competition where we each draft seven
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  Speaker 2: movies to see who can make the most money. The
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  Speaker 2: domestic box office. That's over. We're going to talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about the results. But first, let's crunch some numbers.
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  Speaker 2: So how did we do at the box office this summer, Patrick?
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  Speaker 1: We did pretty good. We did pretty good. Here's what
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  Speaker 1: we got. $ 4. 76 billion. That's the cumulative gross income. Of
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  Speaker 1: all of them. And if that seems really low to you,
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  Speaker 1: it's not.
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  Speaker 2: You're a fool.
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  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, it's an all-time record, just
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  Speaker 1: narrowly beating out the previous record of $ 4. 75 billion. And
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  Speaker 1: that was in 2013? Yeah, that was 2013. So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: it's an all-time record. And it beat out the previous record.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think of this being the all-time best year?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think, wow?
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  Speaker 2: I'm somewhat surprised. I mean, there were obviously some huge
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  Speaker 2: movies this summer, some big ones. But when I look
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  Speaker 2: at it all around, I don't know that I'd look
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  Speaker 2: at all the movies and be like, oh yeah, this
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  Speaker 2: is the biggest summer of all time.
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  Speaker 1: Right? I was thinking the same thing. There's some good
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  Speaker 1: stuff happening this year. The fact that it's the all-time,
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  Speaker 1: maybe we've changed the value of money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I don't know if it's the most tickets
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  Speaker 2: sold of all time, but obviously it's the most money
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  Speaker 2: we've got, like, you know, IMAX in the mix and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it didn't necessarily feel like that. I guess
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  Speaker 2: it did and it didn't. You know, there were some
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  Speaker 2: big movies. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Matter of fact, there were nine movies released between Memorial
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  Speaker 1: Day and Labor Day that grossed more than $ 100 million.
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  Speaker 1: So if you compare that seven in 2025, eight in 2024,
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  Speaker 1: it's getting bigger every year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. We're higher than we were in the past couple
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  Speaker 2: of years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Three movies grossed more than $ 300 million at the domestic
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  Speaker 2: box office. The same exact number. This is interesting. The
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  Speaker 2: same exact number of movies hit that total in both
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  Speaker 2: 2025 and 2024. Something to think about when we're doing
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  Speaker 2: the draft. You could always count on three movies making
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  Speaker 2: more than $ 300 million. No more.
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  Speaker 1: No more, no less. Is that what you're saying? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Of those three movies, two of them hit $ 500 million
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  Speaker 2: or more. That's compared to zero in 2025. 2025 is
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  Speaker 2: just last year, but it seems like a real dud
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  Speaker 2: when you look at some of these numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Terrible.
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  Speaker 2: And two, two 500 plus million movies in 2024. Not bad.
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  Speaker 2: One of those three movies is the highest grossing domestic
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  Speaker 2: movie of all time. All time ever.
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  Speaker 1: You're welcome. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Talking about Spider-Man Brand New Day. What the hell, Frank?
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  Speaker 1: You just hit me with a van! Quit your whimpering.
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  Speaker 1: Suit yourself. Go home!
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  Speaker 2: Earned a whopping $ 936 million. Just beat out The Force
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  Speaker 2: Awakens to become highest grossing domestic movie of all time.
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  Speaker 1: What can I say? I drafted the biggest movie ever.
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  Speaker 2: You can always say that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And somehow I still managed... To lose this draft.
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  Speaker 1: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Don't give it away already.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know. I mean, I don't think it's a secret.
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  Speaker 1: Anybody that's been really paying attention, they know.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody's been paying attention.
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  Speaker 1: So, it's been a summer. For sure. This is our
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  Speaker 1: Summer Movie Awards.
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  Speaker 2: It's what we do at the end of the year. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's its own unique thing. And we, you know, take
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  Speaker 1: a look back. The summer of 2026 wasn't that far away,
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  Speaker 1: but if you and I were talking about before the cast,
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  Speaker 1: this summer just felt so long. It seemed like so
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  Speaker 1: long ago that we created the draft for the summer,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, lots happened since then.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we love movies, and we're going to hand out
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  Speaker 1: some awards today. So we're each going to share two
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  Speaker 1: awards for movies and movie trends that stood out this summer.
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  Speaker 1: So these awards are just unique to something that we're
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  Speaker 1: calling out, essentially. We're never going to get the award
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  Speaker 1: for naming awards either. So just, but we'd like to
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  Speaker 1: name them something crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Whatever we can kind of come up with our
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  Speaker 2: own thing, if you will. All right. You want me
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  Speaker 2: to kick this off?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, do it.
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  Speaker 2: All right. My first award I've got is the never
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  Speaker 2: underestimate the big boys award. Okay. So who are the
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  Speaker 2: big boys? Quote unquote. Well, there's two big boys. They're
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  Speaker 2: the big boys. You know, one of them is, is
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  Speaker 2: of course Spider-Man. Other superheroes might be struggling to get
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  Speaker 2: people to go to the movies. You know, superhero fatigue,
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  Speaker 2: we're all over it. We're sick of the capes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Not Spidey. He has us all in his web. We
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  Speaker 2: just talked about it. Highest grossing movie of all time.
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  Speaker 2: I think we both thought this is going to be
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  Speaker 2: the biggest movie of the summer. I was thinking like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, 500, 600 million maybe. Wasn't thinking 900 plus
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  Speaker 2: biggest movie of all time. Honestly, I'm slightly baffled by
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  Speaker 2: it because, well, I thought this was a great, fun
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  Speaker 2: Spider-Man movie. I also just thought it was a great,
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  Speaker 2: fun Spider-Man movie. So I'm surprised it's like just doing
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  Speaker 2: the crazy business it's doing. But, I mean, you can't
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  Speaker 2: beat Spidey. The other one, the other big boy... Christopher Nolan.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's safe to say right now there's no
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  Speaker 2: bigger director in the world. This guy's a name brand.
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  Speaker 2: He just puts his name on a movie. It's huge.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he followed up Oppenheimer, which made over a
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  Speaker 2: billion dollars or just about a billion dollars. One best picture.
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  Speaker 2: And then he comes out with this three hour plus
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  Speaker 2: adaptation of a centuries old story. And this movie made
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  Speaker 2: over $ 600 million in the U.S. and almost $ 1. 7 billion worldwide.
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  Speaker 2: I thought this movie was going to do well. I
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  Speaker 2: thought it'd be big, a lot of hype behind it.
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  Speaker 2: But I was thinking like $ 400 million domestic, maybe a
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  Speaker 2: little more than that. That would have been a big success.
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  Speaker 2: But this opened big and has played really well for
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  Speaker 2: like two months straight. So those are my big boys,
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  Speaker 2: Spider-Man and Nolan. If we have, you know, future drafts,
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  Speaker 2: those names come up, I'm taking their movies.
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  Speaker 1: Spider-Man or Nolan. I like how you.
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  Speaker 2: Or if Nolan makes a Spider-Man movie, it's over.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be. It'll be an epic Spider-Man movie
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  Speaker 1: for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Shot entirely in IMAX, Infinity IMAX or whatever they call it.
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  Speaker 2: In webs. Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard not to put those two together. It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of like the year we had Barbie and Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's hard not to associate the two things.
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  Speaker 1: So my award, my number one award is with great
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  Speaker 1: box office comes a familiar supporting cast. This just goes for,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you talked about the numbers, but let's just
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  Speaker 1: talk about the supporting cast in these two movies. Like
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  Speaker 1: if you watch these two movies back to back, you're
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  Speaker 1: basically watching almost all the same people in both.
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  Speaker 2: That's legit.
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  Speaker 1: You got Bernthal. You got Holland. You got Zendaya. You've
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  Speaker 1: got Anne Hathaway. She's not in Spider-Man, but you might.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she might as well be.
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  Speaker 2: In spirit.
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  Speaker 1: In spirit. Might even have Matt Damon in there. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure. I mean, I'm sure he was in New
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  Speaker 1: York at some point during the shooting of Spider-Man. So,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, Spider-Man did two-thirds of the work, basically,
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  Speaker 1: in my draft alone. It carried my draft.
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  Speaker 2: Carrying a heavy load on that team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Just, you know, remember I drafted the biggest movie
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  Speaker 1: in the world ever.
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  Speaker 2: Well, not the world. The U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Well, domestic.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. It's chewing up.
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  Speaker 2: It's still going. It's still going. All right. My next
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  Speaker 2: award is... I call Jumpscare Summer Movies Can Still Surprise
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  Speaker 2: Us Award. This is another dual award. And the first
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  Speaker 2: winner here is Backrooms. I found something.
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  Speaker 1: In the store.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: What did you find? The place.
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  Speaker 2: A movie, you know, based on basically an internet thread
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  Speaker 2: with a director not old enough to drink. Kane Parsons,
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  Speaker 2: 20 years old. It's easy to see some breakout potential
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  Speaker 2: with the younger generation on this one. But again, never
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  Speaker 2: expected it to be the fourth highest grossing movie of
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  Speaker 2: the summer. We don't get a lot of surprises, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like, at the summer movies anymore. You know, sometimes
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  Speaker 2: something makes a little more than you expect or like...
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  Speaker 2: but we don't get a lot of movies where you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's a hit that kind of came out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 2: This was one of those, which is pretty cool to see.
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  Speaker 2: It made almost $ 200 million, which is just kind of mind-blowing. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, between this, Obsession, Iron Lung... expect to see
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  Speaker 2: tons of youtube type movies coming to the cinema in
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  Speaker 2: the future for better or for worse so that was
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  Speaker 2: one of my jump scare surprises my other one a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of an unexpected shift minions and monsters but
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  Speaker 2: my friends just call me goombie for short i know
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  Speaker 2: the perfect monster for your movie let's go I did
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  Speaker 2: a kind of box office predictions right up before the
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  Speaker 2: start of the summer. And I talked about how, you know,
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  Speaker 2: 2022 minions, the rise of grew made 370 million 2024
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  Speaker 2: despicable me for made 361 million. These movies always come
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  Speaker 2: out on July 4th weekend and they always make basically
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  Speaker 2: the same amount of money. They're about as reliable as
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  Speaker 2: a box office bed as you can find. That all
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  Speaker 2: came crashing down with Minions and Monsters. I think this
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  Speaker 2: is my biggest shock of the summer was Minions coming
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  Speaker 2: up short of what it just has done repeatedly. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you look at like five of these movies and they're
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  Speaker 2: all like made the same amount of money. And then
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  Speaker 2: this one, for whatever reason, too many family movies, people
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  Speaker 2: sick of the Minions, you know, opened with 61 million
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  Speaker 2: and had to really like hoof it to get to
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  Speaker 2: a 180, which is half of what the minions usually make.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a blip or I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if people are just finally sick of these little
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  Speaker 2: yellow bastards, but it's my other big surprise. Unexpected experience
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  Speaker 2: this summer, minions and monsters. You know about this one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. It's on my draft list. Yeah. It's terrible.
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  Speaker 1: It's just terrible. Everything about everything right now is terrible.
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  Speaker 1: How did they let me down? You know, I guess...
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  Speaker 1: I should have known better. Like it can't go on
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  Speaker 1: that good forever. Right. And these, it's true what you said.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe people hate these little banana loving guys, whatever there. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I say that, but then I drive into our neighborhood
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  Speaker 1: coming home and there's a big giant, there are people
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  Speaker 1: already decorating for Halloween. There's a big giant minion on
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  Speaker 1: somebody's porch. So I'm like, well, you know, I guess
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  Speaker 1: maybe there's one in every neighborhood.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're still popular. I saw the movie.
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  Speaker 2: The movie was pretty good. No different than the others.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember when, I think it was in 2022,
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  Speaker 2: I think it was Rise of Gru when you drafted Minions.
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  Speaker 2: And I was kind of like, oh, these movies are over.
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  Speaker 2: And then, you know, they were like, kids are going
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  Speaker 2: throwing bananas at the screen and made like a ton
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  Speaker 2: of money. And I was like, oh, these movies, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: are never over.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I got to be honest with you. I've
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  Speaker 1: not seen one of the Minion movies.
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  Speaker 2: Ever? Ever.
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  Speaker 1: Ever. Maybe I think I saw the first Despicable Me.
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  Speaker 1: That's not really a Minions movie.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there's Minions in it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think people go for the Minions. Not you. Other people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. At the time, it was like, oh, those are
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  Speaker 1: interesting characters inside this movie. And then, you know, they
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  Speaker 1: just kept making them. Now, I know I'm in the
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  Speaker 1: minority here. Maybe not this year, but I'm in the minority.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I hate to bring this up because... It's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, near and dear to your heart, but is
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  Speaker 2: it possible that people still love the Minions? They were
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  Speaker 2: just turned off by the monsters.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be sad to me. Anyway, enough about Minions.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe not enough, because my award actually talks a little
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  Speaker 1: bit about the kid movies, right? Mm-hmm. So my award
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  Speaker 1: is The Algorithm Ate Childhood.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I like that.
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  Speaker 1: So Back Rooms, you know, this, like, internet mythology type
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  Speaker 1: movie crushed, it made more than the Mandalorian and Grogu,
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  Speaker 1: which is, you know, I would consider like a kid movie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Moana, 126.2. Shocking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it's listed production budget was just $ 10 million, which
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  Speaker 1: is insane to me. When I see these movies that
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  Speaker 1: are making buku money, And then their budget is nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Fills me with a sense of pride. Like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know these people, but I'm like, man, that's awesome. If
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  Speaker 1: you could do that, right? Because that's a success story.
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  Speaker 1: Like Obsession, under a million or a million-ish, blew everything
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  Speaker 1: out of the water for, you know, surprise of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Backrooms cost $ 10 million. How much do you think Moana, which,
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  Speaker 2: you know, made considerably less than Backrooms, how much do
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  Speaker 2: you think the budget on that was?
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  Speaker 1: We know it, don't we? We do.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to see if you knew it offhand.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, is it like a hundred million?
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  Speaker 2: It's 250 million.
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  Speaker 1: What? It was really 250? I thought it was only
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  Speaker 1: going to be like a hundred million.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I'm seeing here. And it looked
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  Speaker 2: like trash.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I heard. Why did it look so bad?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think they're thinking about now that that
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  Speaker 1: bombed like that? Because if it's a $ 250 million budget
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  Speaker 1: and it went on to do 126 domestic, Even 350 worldwide.
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  Speaker 1: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're still not making money. Yeah. I hope they're thinking,
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  Speaker 2: maybe we need to chill out with these live action
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  Speaker 2: Disney remakes. But they're probably not. They're probably like, we
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  Speaker 2: just needed to put them in liminal spaces.
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  Speaker 1: Like, we just need to go faster. Make them every week.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they swing from webs.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, well, let's... We talked about some awards. We
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  Speaker 2: hinted at the movies that did... well or not so
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  Speaker 2: well this summer, let's talk about our draft, our summer
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  Speaker 2: draft we did. Let's wrap that up. Let's recap the
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  Speaker 2: team each of us picked, you know, before we do
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  Speaker 2: anything about this summer and what was going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what I got. We each got seven picks in
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  Speaker 2: this draft. I took Toy Story 5, The Odyssey, Moana,
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  Speaker 2: The Mandalorian and Grogu, Scary Movie, The End of Oak Street,
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  Speaker 2: and with my final pick, I chose Back Rooms, which was...
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  Speaker 2: Also eligible for our indie bonus, you know, for films
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  Speaker 2: that came from an independent studio. You get a little
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  Speaker 2: extra money to kind of even the playing field. Not
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  Speaker 2: that Backrooms needed it, but it got it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then I picked, obviously, maybe it's not obvious,
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  Speaker 1: but we've been talking about it. Spider-Man, Brand New Day,
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  Speaker 1: Minions and Monsters, Disclosure Day. If you remember that, that
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  Speaker 1: was the Spielberg movie.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Supergirl, Masters of the Universe, Evil Dead Burn, and The
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  Speaker 1: Death of Robin Hood.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting how your perspective on these movies changes from
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  Speaker 2: the beginning of the summer to the end of the summer.
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  Speaker 2: Even the ones I was like, I don't know about this,
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  Speaker 2: like Moana. I'm like, this is going to make money.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I don't know if it
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  Speaker 2: looks great, but it's going to bring in a ton
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  Speaker 2: of money and then it didn't. And then you're like,
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  Speaker 2: why did I ever think that was going to make money?
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  Speaker 2: Once it's happened, it's easy to be like, oh, of
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  Speaker 2: course that was going to happen. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the reason why they call it hindsight.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's 2020.
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  Speaker 2: The way it was always meant to be. Some of
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: the movies I'll note we missed on or didn't take.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: You know, usually each year there's a movie that we're like, oh,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: that's a big one. Neither one of us grabbed. This
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: year that didn't really happen. But there's a couple notable
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: ones that maybe we could have taken. Insidious, Out of
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: the Further. Those are not dreams, Gemma.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: You have a rare gift. the ability to travel into
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: the realm.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: You can bring demons back to the human world permanently.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Made about $ 62 million. You know, you took Evil Dead Burn.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Could have been the horror movie that ended up doing better.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have expected that, but
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: that's how it played out. Young Washington. I think I
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: talked about this one a little on our initial show,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: but this could have been an indie pick. Ended up
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: earning almost $ 50 million. All those bullet holes in your jacket.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: How are you alive? I don't know.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: You are not British, yet they send you to speak
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: for them.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: So that when you fail, they'll have someone to blame.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: There is no retreat!
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: What are you called?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: My name is George Washington. You know, playing on that
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: July 4th America 250 kind of thing. We got to
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: see Washington being young. And Coyote vs.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Acme. Have you been horribly injured by a product made
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: by the Acme Corporation? It's not your fault. There's probably
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: someone to blame.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: The name of the case is Coyote vs.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Acme. Wiley Coyote.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: He is reckless. We all know who's responsible and all
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: of his injuries are self-inflicted. Came out at the end
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: of the summer. You know, it was kind of like,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: what's this going to do? We were both like, I
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: hope it does well, but this is still making money
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: and it's made close to like $ 50 million. So that
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: one did all right.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The young Washington one made me surprised. It's not
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: surprising that it, like, you know, did well because of the,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: you know, time that it was released. And, you know,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: it's like over Independence. It's our 250th. I get all
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: of the reasons why Young Washington would have been a
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: good movie. But what we talked about was you were
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: thinking about taking that.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I was. There was actually... a minute and then i
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: was like uh this is too risky where i was
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: like what if i were to take back rooms with
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: my sixth pick and then take young washington with my
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: seventh pick and do the indie bonus on that which
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: would have been pretty good move. But I, at the
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: time felt like I'm like, no, that's, that's a little
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: too crazy because no idea what, you know, I was like, ah,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: back rooms, maybe that's going to make like 50, 60 million.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I think it'll do, you know, and that was thinking
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: it would do pretty well.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think we could just agree that I could
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: have picked any movie and it probably would have beat
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: out my last one. Death of Robin, who was, you.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Know, Turns out the summer audience wasn't interested in a
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: somber Robin Hood tale.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be kind of like
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: gritty and dark and get that sort of moody, whatever
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: that people sometimes gravitate towards. Like they've been like, oh man,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: that was a great story. That's what I was thinking.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was so much about Robin Hood.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's Hugh Jackman, you know, people
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: like him and blah, blah, blah. But clearly not.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Five million dollars on that one.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Five. Five million dollars. I almost can't even believe how
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: bad of a choice that was.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like, wasn't it, was it COVID or
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: around that time? Remember you picked that movie Watcher or
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Watchers or something like that?
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. 11 or 12 million dollars. And I thought that's
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: the worst pick I've ever had. I beat it this year.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Five millions is pretty terrible. It's terrible.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what my worst pick is.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I remember I picked In the Heights, and I don't
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: remember what that did, but that was pretty low.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Not good.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Not good, no. All right, well, you hinted at some
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: of the bonuses we have here. Let's go through those.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: The first one we had, we call it the Raiders reward.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Named after Raiders of the Lost Ark, a movie that
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: just played for months on end. This kind of rewards
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: the movie that, you know, has the biggest legs. You know,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: it goes from its opening weekend and just keeps playing
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: and playing. That went to the Odyssey on my team,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: which had a 4.88 multiplier, meaning it made almost five
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: times its opening weekend gross. So that was good for
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: a $ 24 million bonus. Compare this to last year when
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: the bonus movie, Elio, remember that one? It was on
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: your team. Elio, you love that. That one won this
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: bonus last year with a 3.5 multiplier. So the Odyssey
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: well ahead of that.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you did a good job. You got the Raiders award.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: This might be some of my best work this year.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Like you needed any bonuses. Let me just say, okay,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you didn't need any bonuses this year.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Well, what's our next bonus?
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: The next one is near and dear to my heart.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: It's the WIC award. It's where we each guess our
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: team total. Right there at the beginning of the season.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: We don't know what's going to happen, right? Whoever comes
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: closer to their guess without going over gets a $ 10
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: million bonus. And let me just tell you, Shad was
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: off by $ 246 million. I was off by $ 536 million. Okay.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: My guess.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: You went so low.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. You were asking earlier, or maybe we
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: were talking about this, what did you think of the season?
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Did you expect it to be this big?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I never thought it was going to be this big.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: You know that the Spider-Man is going to be pretty big. Odyssey,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: you know, you think maybe a few of these other
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: ones that like clearly I thought some they were going
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: to be big weren't. But beyond that, you know, some
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: are going to be big. And I think that I
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: just thought it was going to be normal. And I
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: did not want to overbid.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You don't want to go over because we have prices,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: right rules. And if you go over, you're automatically disqualified. Yeah.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'll play it safe because I was
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: looking at past years and I'm like, you know, 1.1 billion,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: in some cases, a billion. And I'm like, it's probably
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: going to be like a billion and a quarter or
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: something like that. And I'll be safe if it is.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: But I did not want it to be a bad
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: year and then me be over. And it's only $ 10 million.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: So it's not like we're winning a lot with the
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Wick Award, but you got this.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: To be fair, right after I... Made my prediction on
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: the air. I was immediately regretful and I was like, oh,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: that's way too high. I thought I overshot it. Yeah.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I thought you overshot it too. I was like, oh,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you're going to go with that? That's your final? I
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: was thinking I had it because of that. But then,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: you know, Spider-Man just killed everything and Odyssey. So, you know,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the estimates were a little off.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't know. We didn't know it
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: was going to be so big. So then our other,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: you know, we talked a little bit about indie picks,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: the award we have there. For the non-big studio movies,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: we want them to still be able to play in
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: the game. So for those movies, we can pick them
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: with our last pick. We can make that choice. And
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: they each get three times whatever they gross. Up to
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: $ 100 million. We got a ceiling on it. We both
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: opted for the indie picks this year. As mentioned, Patrick,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: you took The Death of Robin Hood. Made 5 million,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: a little over 5 million. So you got a bonus
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: just over 16 million. Nice. I took back rooms, which made,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: you know, almost $ 200 million. So I maxed out. I
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: got $ 100 million bonus on top of that. Big win
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: for my team there.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: And we have one more, one more bonus called the
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: trade back to the future. A real wild card, which we'll,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: we'll get to that one in one, you know, one minute.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: We save that for the grand finale, if you will.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: But first, let's get to our final results, the moment
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: everybody's been waiting for. What do those look like, Patrick?
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: So your total is $ 1. 746 billion.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: $ 1.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: 7 billion. I don't know.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a good spot to throw the decimal. Yeah.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Mine, $ 1. 4 billion. With your bonuses, you got $ 134 million.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Your final total is just shy of 1.9 billion. Just shy.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Pretty nice. Pretty nice.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. My bonuses, I got a measly 16 million, and
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: my final total is a little over 1.4 billion. Still
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah. So the difference between our two teams
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: was 453 million. Some change.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: It's like another hit movie.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's terrible odds coming back from that. Terrible odds.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: But there is still a chance for you. Yeah. As
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: we talked about, we have the Trade Back to the
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Future bonus. This bonus allows each team to trade one
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: movie on your list for a movie from a previous
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: year that finished in the domestic rankings the same number
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: as your draft pick. So, you know, 1 through 14.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Here's the loophole. The year you get your pick from
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: will be chosen randomly. So you can get any year randomly.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: between 1985 and 2025. Long span. Some years, you know,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: you might get something with a great number, some not
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: so much. So, Patrick, the big question, I guess the
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: big question for both of us, will you be trading
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: back to the future?
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. Why wouldn't I? You know? Trade it.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: What are you going to trade?
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going to trade my last pick, my $ 5 million.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I'm just getting rid of the death of Robin Hood.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: You don't want that on your resume.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I don't want that stain anywhere near my draft. You
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: hear that, Hugh? What are you doing to me over here?
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to opt not to trade back
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: to the future this year.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Good idea.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I could get rid of Moana. I could dump it
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: off the ship. I could move end of Oak Street,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: which didn't quite do what I wanted it to do.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: But I think given the situation, I think I'm okay.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I'm going to just stand with it. All right, let's
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: find out what you get in place of the death
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: of Robin Hood. What do you got?
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I get Scooby-Doo from 2002 with a domestic of $ 153. 3 million.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: That's not bad.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: That's not bad. I can't believe Scooby-Doo made that much.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: That live action, you know, bad CGI Scooby-Doo.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I got a gain of about $ 148 million
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: with that.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: That takes our difference down then to rounding up about
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: $ 322 million. Actually, pretty respectable. Yeah. I still come out
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: on top, but that's not even close to some years.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: The Barbie year, the Top Gun year where you slammed me.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I think even last year, I beat you by much
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: more than that.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: So what are your thoughts? How do you feel about
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: this year's results? What do you think about this year's draft,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: your team?
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: It's funny. You know, the summer was an interesting one
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: because I've talked a lot more about the summer movie
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: draft this year than I have in previous years. And
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: some people who know me, who know we do this
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: podcast and this portion of our year is sort of
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: devoted to the summer movie draft. They were like, oh,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: you're doing the draft this year? What'd you get? What
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: do you have? What do you mean? What do you? Oh,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Shad got that too? Oh, Shad got that too? I'm like,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I felt like an idiot. Really, I felt like an idiot.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Like after we were done with the drama, I'm like,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: oh man, I probably tanked this. Here's how I just
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: sort of like line it out. I won the summer's
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: biggest movie. So I get a little kudos for that.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: You won the spreadsheet, right? Unfortunately, we agreed to play
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: the spreadsheet, not the summer's biggest movie. Although, you know,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: that would be one. You know, that could be a bonus.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Like if you pick the summer's biggest movie, you automatically win.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Or if you get, if you have the biggest movie
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: of all time.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. If you choose the biggest movie of all time.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Because what are the chance that's going to happen?
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's like a hole in one. Yeah. It's just
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: going to immediately throw you to the top.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: It's pretty amazing. Your team to me is like a
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: bunch of scrubs and Michael Jordan. It's just unbelievable the
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: work that Spider-Man did on this team. After the draft,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I was like, I felt pretty good about my team
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: versus your team. But I got to tell you, there
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: was one point, I think it was right after Spider-Man opened,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like... Oh, God. Is this one movie going to
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: win this draft? Is it going to come back and
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: win this thing because of this one movie?
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: That would have been super cool. That would have been
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: a great story.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: That would have been insane. I mean, luckily, the Odyssey
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: kind of kept pace, you know, with Spider-Man. It kept
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: making money. The sweat came off a little bit, but
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: there was a while when it opened up. You know,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: it had like the biggest opening weekend and then it
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: just kept going. I'm like, this is pretty crazy. This
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: movie is dragging this team because nobody else, no other
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: player on your team was like, I ain't going to
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: do anything. I'm going to sit back here and smoke.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: And they did.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: And they did. You know, Supergirl, Masters of the Universe,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Evil Dead Burn. Disclosure Day, not bad. But it wasn't huge,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: but it did solid for an original movie.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They just, they all let me down.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Nobody else did better than what you expected they would.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: No, they all did less than I expected them to.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, most of them did less. You know,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Disclosure Day, you could say met expectations.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought Disclosure Day might do a
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: little better. I was really hopeful that like, oh, this
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: is going to be that kind of Spielberg where- people
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: are going to be like, whoa. I thought Disclosure Day
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: would be more like Back Rooms. That's what I thought.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: That virility of it. You know, the like, people were
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: talking about it. They were going to the movie. I mean,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: it had pickup and it just was like getting bigger
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: and bigger. I mean, it did die off.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think that was both of, we both
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: said that was the movie we were most excited for
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: this summer. And I think people liked it. People didn't
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: love it. You know what I mean? It didn't get
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: that kind of like, I need to go, I need
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: to go back and see it like Spider-Man and the Odyssey.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I need to go back and see this again. I
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: like it so much. It didn't have that. It had like, oh,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: it's pretty good. Yeah.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: It wasn't that for me either. And I was thinking
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: about that as you were saying, I was trying to
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: think what movies have I really wanted to go back
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and see over and over again. And there's not a
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: lot of them that I can count like that in
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: the history of movies and going to the theater. One
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: that I can think of just off the top of
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: my head, the Matrix, the original Matrix.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I saw that three times in the theater, and that's
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: a lot for me. But it was so groundbreaking and
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: interesting and new, and we were in a certain point
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: in our internet lives. But nothing so far. I mean,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I really like Spider-Man. I really like The Odyssey. I
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: don't know, though. Would I ever go and see those
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: two movies again in the theater?
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that, at least with what came
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: out this summer. I'm trying to even think of what
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: the last thing was that I went to see twice
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: in the theater, which is pretty... rare occurrence. So I
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: guess that leads in nicely to, you know, the summer
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: as a whole. The movies we got this summer, do
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: you think it was a good movie summer compared to
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: what you can think of last summer or summer before?
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: How's this one stack up?
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: You know, I think it, I mean, for my draft,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: it did terrible.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: We know that.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: But I actually kind of liked a lot of the
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: movies that were coming out. I still haven't seen Back Rooms.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I want to see that. End of Oak Street, I'd
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: be interested to see what's all about, you know, that story.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I saw this scary movie started streaming and I was like,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: maybe I might watch this.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel the same way.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I can't say I'm going to see Moana live. Maybe
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I'll see Toy Story. I saw the Odyssey. Oh, Masters
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: of the Universe was great. I think I told you this.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I was on vacation and this movie started streaming and
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I watched it. I was like, this is like fantastic
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: work for a kid's show that they brought into a
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: movie that they were trying to like, Do something for
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the fans. Very entertaining. Did you see it?
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  Speaker 2: You're a master's defender. I know I have to stir
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: up the interest. I don't know if I'll get there
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: or not, but maybe. I mean, I've heard some people
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: say it's good. Maybe I'll have to watch it with
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: my kids. I grew up on He-Man. That was one
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: of my first toys. So I have some, I don't
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: know if I'd even call them fond memories or super nostalgia.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is a toy I had. It's
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: kind of like G.I. Joe. Yeah.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: So, you know, like, was it a good movie summer?
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was pretty decent.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got some good variation. I'll say that. It
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: does seem like these two massive movies, you know, the
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Odyssey and Spider-Man kind of ate up the whole summer.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: And there were a few that did all right. But
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: other than that, it was like really just about these
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: kind of two movies. But compared to last summer, I
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: thought we got more movies and more different kinds of movies.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: You know, we had some like sci-fi, some comedies, some
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: You know, family movies, some action, different things. You know,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: I saw a good amount of them. Things like The
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Odyssey and Spider-Man I thought were pretty good. I liked
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Toy Story 5 a lot. I liked Coyote vs. Acme
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  Speaker 2: a lot. You know, Disclosure Day was good. So there
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: was a lot of good generally like going to the
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: movies and enjoying my self-experience, which is kind of what
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: summer's all about. You know, you just want to sit
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: there and be like, you know, it's a good way
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: to spend a couple hours in summer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm a little sad that you didn't see more
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: of the movies. that I have on my draft list.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: How many did I see? I saw one, two, three.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I saw three. That's pretty good.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, because you saw Minions and Monsters.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I gave, I saw three of yours. I
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: saw four of mine. In the end of Oak Street,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I wanted to get to that one. That was, you know,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: that was kind of tells you how many movies there were.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I just kind of didn't end up making it to
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: that one, but we'll probably watch it at home. That
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: looks really interesting to me. I thought that was going
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: to be my breakout and it just didn't. Didn't happen.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I had bigger hopes for some of those. Here's
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: what we always talk about, like the marketing side of it.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Some of those trailers really led me to believe they
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: were going to be bigger and better.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: When we're picking the movies in May... Uh, that's kind
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: of mostly what we have to go on, you know,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: for some of the ones coming up in June, you
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: get a little more, but you can't really feel the
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: buzz yet for like the July or August release. So
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: you don't know quite what that anticipation is going to
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: be like. And I think the end of Oak street
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: is a pretty good example of that. Like the teasers
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: and the early stuff was pretty good. I think once
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: they started showing like more of the dinosaurs, it seemed
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: like the interest kind of dropped off. That's the, that's
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: the way it felt to me.
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  Speaker 1: What was your favorite movie then that you saw this summer?
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: You know, it was probably Toy Story 5. Taking my kids.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I just really like these movies in general. It was
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: just kind of a good, you know, summer movie experience.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: So it's probably that or The Odyssey. The Odyssey was
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: just felt like a big movie. I don't know if
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: I totally loved it. I don't even know if I'd like...
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: watch it again at home, but I didn't like love
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: it the way a lot of people love it. But
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it as like just a movie that
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: felt big and like you have to see it at
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: the theater, had that like vibe, get out there and
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: see this movie. Everybody's kind of talking about it.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Good answer with the Toy Story 5.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I remember those days. Now I can't even, I have
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: to beg my kids to go see movies with me.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: But didn't they go to Spider-Man with you?
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: They did. They did go to Spider-Man with me. I mean,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: out of the movies that I saw this year, I
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: liked Disclosure Day, but there were some problems.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You had it hyped up too, I think.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I had an insane level of hype. The hype meter
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: was really high. Anyway, I think I would have to
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: probably say it's Masters of the Universe. Wow. Wow. Yeah.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Simply because- For one, it's not what everybody else would pick.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: So I'm just being a little against the grain. And two,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: it was a pleasant surprise. I did not think that
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I was going to enjoy it as much as I did.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: You could argue I didn't see it in the theater.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: So sorry about that.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that's the experience most people had. They
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: didn't see it in the theater. Most people are going
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: to watch it on Amazon. But maybe you have me convinced.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll watch it.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I think you should.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Well, we did it. We made it through another summer,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: another draft. And of course... We're going to do it
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: all again next summer. It's important to note, you know,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: this ties it all up. We're like back to you
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: crushed me for three years. I crushed you for three years.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: We're back to dead even.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Next year could be the year that you have more
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: drafts under your belt. That's true.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: It could be. It could be the year I finally
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: overcome you.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Or maybe not. You know, you might be stuck in
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: summer movie draft purgatory. For all time.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: We just go, we just constantly go back and forth.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: So good summer movie season. We hope you enjoyed this.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, we enjoy it. We have some special surprises
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: coming up for you though. So you will be able
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: to play along.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Now I might've piqued your interest. I can't tell you
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: any more than that. Maybe we'll release an episode talking
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: about it at some point here in the future, but
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: that's it for this episode of movies and marketing until
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: next summer. let's fade to black.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I'll be back
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: He's not coming back