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Press Pass | Grant Udinski & Brian Thomas Jr. Discuss Passing Game Chemistry at Camp · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Expectations are there for that, you know, is it gonna
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  Speaker 1: be tackled to the ground mock game for your thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna take care of us.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a practice for us in terms of the
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  Speaker 3: way the guys are approaching it. But it'll be good
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  Speaker 3: to get the experience for the guys kind of going
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  Speaker 3: through the pregame routine more so than anything in terms
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  Speaker 3: of the mock game element of it. Kind of the
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  Speaker 3: flow of it is mock game ish, but there are
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  Speaker 3: guys that the turnaround is a little quick for you guys,
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  Speaker 3: So we're trying to simulate the timing pace of a
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  Speaker 3: game between series getting corrections. But every once in a while,
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  Speaker 3: I'll be out there with the series, we punt and
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  Speaker 3: then he's back out there again. So you can't simulate
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  Speaker 3: it perfectly, but we try to make it as close
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  Speaker 3: as we can for the guys to kind of get
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  Speaker 3: that feeling of a game, the timing of a game,
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  Speaker 3: the rhythm of the pregame warm up, that routine, so
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  Speaker 3: that way the first time they go out there for preseason,
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  Speaker 3: it's not something completely new.
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  Speaker 1: Live peries like live tackle.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think right now that Liam's got the we'll
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  Speaker 3: probably be able to talk to you guys on some
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  Speaker 3: of that schedule stuff, but right now the plan is
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  Speaker 3: to take the tempos just like we've done that practice, and.
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  Speaker 4: With Travis Kinder, he's gonna Liam Tutters is gonna be
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  Speaker 4: on both sides. What do you need to see offensively
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  Speaker 4: from him going into Condor tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think what we want to see is just
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  Speaker 3: that continued improvement. I don't think that there's anything specific
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  Speaker 3: that we would say we need to see tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: We have time to continue to.
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  Speaker 5: Work and progress.
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  Speaker 3: Excuse me, Hopefully you guys can still hear me, but
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  Speaker 3: I think I'll just leave it like that. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's just a continued progression of schematic understanding, the technique,
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  Speaker 3: the chemistry with Trevor and the rest of the guys
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  Speaker 3: that we want to see on that makingamore.
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  Speaker 4: And then you today you spent time one on one
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  Speaker 4: with them during the special team seriod. Just how beneficial
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  Speaker 4: are those, you know, extra minutes. We've talked about the
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  Speaker 4: scheduling a lot, but just those extra minutes that you
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  Speaker 4: can get with them.
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  Speaker 3: On yours We're trying to maximize the use of all
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  Speaker 3: the time.
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  Speaker 6: For sure.
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  Speaker 3: The one on one time is great because it gives
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  Speaker 3: you an opportunity to see what he knows, how he
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  Speaker 3: sees things, how he feels about things. So the way
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  Speaker 3: the schedule has been built to get those opportunities been phenomenal,
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  Speaker 3: and it's impressive to see him switch back and forth.
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  Speaker 3: It's not easy to do to go from here in
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  Speaker 3: defensive play calls, practicing defensive techniques and drills, taking defensive
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  Speaker 3: reps and team and then turn around and be able
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  Speaker 3: to spit out his job and his responsibility on a
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  Speaker 3: long offensive third down play call.
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  Speaker 5: It seems like the Armies had a couple of explosive
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  Speaker 5: plays the last few days. What can you say just
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  Speaker 5: about the way he's transitioning so far.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's kind of what you saw a little
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  Speaker 2: bit from him last year.
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  Speaker 3: He has that ability, you know. I think the improvement
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  Speaker 3: in some of the stuff that he's shown in the
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  Speaker 3: run game and even with the different routes that we've
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  Speaker 3: asked him to run, will only hopefully expand his ability.
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  Speaker 2: To create explosives. But last year, whether.
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  Speaker 3: It was running go balls or vertical routes or with
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  Speaker 3: the ball in hand on screens in different plays, I
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  Speaker 3: think that's something that's in his wheelhouse.
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  Speaker 7: You've got a lot of playmakers on offense. Brian Thomas Junior,
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  Speaker 7: Travis Hunter, Tang you got Travis. How do you balance,
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  Speaker 7: you know, getting all those guys enough touches, you know,
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  Speaker 7: to kind of keep them happy at first?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question. I think it's important to allow.
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  Speaker 3: The scheme and the kind of defense and the looks
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  Speaker 3: and the different concepts get the guys the ball when
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  Speaker 3: it's appropriate where we're not trying to force them touches.
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  Speaker 3: But it's something that we're certainly conscious of in the
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  Speaker 3: way we plan a practice or a period or even
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  Speaker 3: a routes on air session to try to get each
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  Speaker 3: guy an opportunity to.
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  Speaker 2: Touch the ball because we have those skill guys.
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  Speaker 3: So it's a good problem to have, but it just
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  Speaker 3: takes a conscious effort to kind of be intentional with
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  Speaker 3: the way we plan a practice or a game plan.
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  Speaker 7: And you have Travis and Bryan on both sides of
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  Speaker 7: the ball, bull bustles the ball, that of player receiver
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  Speaker 7: that went, how much pressure does that put on the defense?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I think depending on the defense and the structure and
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  Speaker 3: the down and distance will determine how much pressure it
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  Speaker 3: puts on them because ultimately they're the ones that have
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  Speaker 3: a decision to make on how they want to handle BT,
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  Speaker 3: how they want to handle Travis. And as you guys know,
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  Speaker 3: the more resources you allocate over there, you're taken away
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  Speaker 3: from somewhere, so you're limited in something. So hopefully by
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  Speaker 3: having those two guys together on the same field where
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  Speaker 3: it's the same side or opposite from each other, we
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  Speaker 3: force a little bit of the issue much more.
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  Speaker 5: Bit more, we are able to evaluate the running game.
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  Speaker 5: Now that you know pads are on, it's a little
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  Speaker 5: more closer to the real.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it certainly helps a bunch being able to see
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  Speaker 3: the guys really come off the ball and be able
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  Speaker 3: to strike and use their hands with that full speed
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  Speaker 3: and strain and finish. I think we were able to
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  Speaker 3: evaluate a little bit of it with the footwork and
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  Speaker 3: the communication and targeting some of that, but the full
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  Speaker 3: pads helped tremendously to really see guys not only what
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  Speaker 3: they can do, but to see how they're processing some
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  Speaker 3: of the coaching points and really the targets, aiming points,
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  Speaker 3: all those things that you preach an individual drill that's
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  Speaker 3: tough to sometimes show up in the less competitive, non
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  Speaker 3: padded periods.
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  Speaker 6: What stands out about that running back room so far
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  Speaker 6: through a week and a half.
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  Speaker 3: I would say the thing that really stands out about
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  Speaker 3: the guys is their effort and embrace how much they've
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  Speaker 3: embraced the opportunity to improve.
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  Speaker 2: I think all of those guys.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of had different areas that they've wanted to improve
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  Speaker 3: individually or collectively even as a group. And the way
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  Speaker 3: they've approached the protection scheme, the run game that's a
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  Speaker 3: little bit different than some of the things they've done.
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  Speaker 3: They've really embraced that and kind of approached it with
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  Speaker 3: a growth mindset. So been awesome to see the young
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  Speaker 3: guys step in and kind of have that and even
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  Speaker 3: the older guys kind of fit right in with that
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  Speaker 3: and set the tone with that type of growth mindset
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  Speaker 3: to approach it where they're trying to buy into the
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  Speaker 3: best of their ability.
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  Speaker 5: It seems like when the jackson is taking advantageers on
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  Speaker 5: this opportunities, where have you seen from him so far?
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  Speaker 2: Are Yeah, he's taking advantage of his opportunities. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you kind of set it right there in the question.
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  Speaker 3: I think all the guys have really especially with some
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  Speaker 3: of the injuries, and at back you're always going to
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  Speaker 3: get some rotation because a guy's running seventy yards down
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  Speaker 3: the field and the heat finishing the run, so you
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  Speaker 3: got to have the next guy up.
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  Speaker 6: And ready to roll.
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  Speaker 3: So it's really been his understanding of what we're asking
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  Speaker 3: to do and his understanding of the scheme. And then
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  Speaker 3: I'll be excited to see when we go full pads
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  Speaker 3: with live tackling when we're against an opponent, to see,
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  Speaker 3: you know, what shows up after contact for him.
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  Speaker 1: What kind of group have you seen from ETN Since
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  Speaker 1: you were talking about growth with the running.
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  Speaker 3: Backs, Yeah, like I said earlier, kind of his approach
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  Speaker 3: to the way he studied the protection system, his approach
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  Speaker 3: in the past game and the run game and racing
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  Speaker 3: kind of the new Some of the new concepts or
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  Speaker 3: different concepts that we're running, some of them might be
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  Speaker 3: familiar from stuff he's done, whether it's in college or
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  Speaker 3: with previous staffs, but his growth kind of week to week,
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  Speaker 3: day to day, almost with an understanding of versus certain
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  Speaker 3: fronts and certain structures where this run scheme is trying
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  Speaker 3: to attack, where the landmarks are we're trying to attack.
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  Speaker 3: You see that progression day over day, and that's what's
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  Speaker 3: exciting about his growth, what.
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  Speaker 1: Makes him so compelling to use as a pass catching back.
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  Speaker 6: You know what is about him?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's really comes down to ability.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he's a guy who has some natural ability
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  Speaker 3: to do a lot of that stuff, whether he's lined
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  Speaker 3: up in the backfield or whether he's lined up flexed
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  Speaker 3: out and empty in the slot all the way out wide.
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  Speaker 3: That versatility gives him a lot of options to get
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  Speaker 3: the ball in different situations, get the ball.
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  Speaker 2: In space, which is where he's you know, he's suited best.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, gus Low's begat metchachs or breaks a successful screen game.
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  Speaker 2: Is there any like major does or do nots that
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  Speaker 2: comes to mind?
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  Speaker 3: Well, there's probably there's a lot of variables for make
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  Speaker 3: or break in the screen game. I think ultimately, what
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  Speaker 3: we're trying to work on is getting the guys to
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  Speaker 3: have a understanding of the rules and the concept and
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  Speaker 3: the screen game will always be gray. So once they
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  Speaker 3: have that firm understanding of the rules, what we're trying
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  Speaker 3: to attack, where we're trying to attack, the timing with
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  Speaker 3: what we're trying to attack on defense, then they can
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  Speaker 3: understand the decisions within those rules, and how sometimes you
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  Speaker 3: might have to not necessarily break the rules but bend
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  Speaker 3: them a little bit in order to have that feel
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  Speaker 3: for a defender triggered this way, or he fit a
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  Speaker 3: different way, or this guy fit off the outside and
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  Speaker 3: the receiver next to me took my guy. Now I
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  Speaker 3: got to go on and get the next guy. So
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  Speaker 3: there are little things like that that come with the feel. First,
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  Speaker 3: you kind of have to develop that understanding of the rules,
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  Speaker 3: and then once they develop that understanding, then you can
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  Speaker 3: kind of practice it, get the feel down for it,
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  Speaker 3: and that ultimately, in my opinion, will kind of create
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  Speaker 3: that fruitful screen game for all areas of the screen
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  Speaker 3: where it's receivers, backs, tight ends appreciate.
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  Speaker 6: Right, Thanks guys.
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  Speaker 1: You know how does that sort of motivate you moving forward?
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  Speaker 8: I mean I was saying a lot to me, just
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  Speaker 8: being able to make that my friend and my rookie
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  Speaker 8: year coming in, just me wanting to come out here
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  Speaker 8: and show what I can do. I would say that
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  Speaker 8: means a lot to me, and I mean I feel
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  Speaker 8: like I could have been better. So that's what that's
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  Speaker 8: what's that what motivates me to come out next year
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  Speaker 8: and do even better.
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  Speaker 7: How'd you kind of like, just so I'm making that
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  Speaker 7: top one hundred and now kind of I don't say
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  Speaker 7: you have no target on your back, but like defense
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  Speaker 7: is now knowing how good you are, Like, how do
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  Speaker 7: you make that adjustment year two to make sure you
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  Speaker 7: produce the thing where you did a year one.
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  Speaker 8: I wouldn't say as having a target on my back.
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  Speaker 8: I would just say, I mean, I I just gotta
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  Speaker 8: come out and prepare the right way, come out and
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  Speaker 8: be ready for whatever defense throws at us, and just
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  Speaker 8: come out and play team ball and just get the job.
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  Speaker 8: Then that's my biggest thing, is getting the job done,
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  Speaker 8: getting wins.
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  Speaker 1: What have you added maybe to your preparation now that
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  Speaker 1: you had went through a whole season and you're now
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  Speaker 1: going to your second season, what what have you maybe
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  Speaker 1: added knowing what you have to face come regular season?
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  Speaker 8: Really just just getting more into the playbook, knowing the
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  Speaker 8: ins and outs of it, just knowing like why we
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  Speaker 8: run certain things with certain coverages, and what are we
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  Speaker 8: trying to do with certain routes and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 8: So I would say just being in the film room,
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  Speaker 8: being in the playbook, I would say that's probably my
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  Speaker 8: biggest thing I I've added to my game.
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  Speaker 6: How much work UNI have?
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  Speaker 3: Shit, do you feel like there's a higher ceiling for you?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I definitely feel like I can Uh, I can
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  Speaker 6: do more. I feel like there's more in a tank
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  Speaker 6: for me.
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  Speaker 8: So each and every day, Uh, each and every game,
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  Speaker 8: We're gonna come out there and show show everything I
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  Speaker 8: could do, Show what I can do, try to be
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  Speaker 8: better than I was last year.
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  Speaker 4: That would have been I know you had half a
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  Speaker 4: season to play with 'em, but now you have a
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  Speaker 4: full off season with Trevor and kind of just continue
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  Speaker 4: in that relationship.
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  Speaker 8: Like you said, we still continuing to grow our relationship. Uh,
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  Speaker 8: just coming out here each and every day, just continuously
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  Speaker 8: putting in work and just trying to be the best
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  Speaker 8: that we can be.
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  Speaker 6: Just taking a step forward each and every day just
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  Speaker 6: to get better.
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  Speaker 5: I have you guys that receive it, like Yafie Travis
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  Speaker 5: to help push you and compete in practice. How much
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  Speaker 5: has that kind of help to youse work?
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  Speaker 6: It helps a lot.
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  Speaker 8: It helps uh with like competition, that practice helps them,
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  Speaker 8: Like we a m all motiv motivate each other, So
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  Speaker 8: it helps a lot.
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  Speaker 6: Just being able to have them out here. Uh, each
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  Speaker 6: and every day for sure, when.
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  Speaker 4: You're going up again, you guys just be fencing, you're
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  Speaker 4: lined up against Tyson. Just how much better does that
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  Speaker 4: make you? Kind of happen to see that every day?
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  Speaker 6: It makes makes me a lot.
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  Speaker 8: Better best, Like it's the best going against best, just
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  Speaker 8: having Tyson, Jordan h Uh Jarring any one of those Busser,
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  Speaker 8: all of them, anyone of the last. So like we
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  Speaker 8: all push each other just to come out and be
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  Speaker 8: better each and every day. We all gonna compete and
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  Speaker 8: get the best out of each other.
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  Speaker 7: Uh, you in the league have really did a weekly
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  Speaker 7: seasons from neighbors from LSU. Yup, you guys talk about
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  Speaker 7: that at all, like you know, like a little friendly
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  Speaker 7: competition at all.
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  Speaker 8: Uh Yeah, when we're around each other, we we messing
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  Speaker 8: with each other about it. But I mean with us,
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  Speaker 8: it's all work, our competition. We just come out each
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  Speaker 8: and every day compete at the highest level. When we
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  Speaker 8: were together at LSU practicing and we competing at the
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  Speaker 8: highest level, whether it's seeing like seeing who win the
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  Speaker 8: most one on one just like little things like that,
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  Speaker 8: we always find a way to compete and whether me
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  Speaker 8: being ranked sixty one and he sixty seven. Just little
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  Speaker 8: things like that. So we're gonna compete and always that's
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  Speaker 8: that's what's what we do.
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  Speaker 3: Where do you think.
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  Speaker 4: Profits has grown the most since he's got here. You've
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  Speaker 4: got to spend a lot of time with him.
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  Speaker 8: Where I think he's grown the most just uh, probably
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  Speaker 8: learning the playbook wise, is being able to go out
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  Speaker 8: there and execute the plays and being knowing the ends.
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  Speaker 8: And I was by just being in this playbook, learning
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  Speaker 8: the playbook, knowing what you have, not having to his
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  Speaker 8: second guess itself or think thinks twice about what he got.
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  Speaker 6: So I would say that's probably the biggest thing.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, without giving too much detail, how does this often
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  Speaker 1: sort of suit you? How does it maximize your abilities?
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  Speaker 8: I would say it's like just having a lot of
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  Speaker 8: different routes, being able to run different things, being able
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  Speaker 8: to run the full route tree, doing like little things,
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  Speaker 8: whether it's playing inside outside, and just being able to
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  Speaker 8: expand my routre. Just being able to continuously expand it
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  Speaker 8: and run different routes. I say that's probably the biggest
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  Speaker 8: thing for me. And having guys like Travis and Dianmi Parker,
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  Speaker 8: all those guys on the other side.
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  Speaker 6: Just uh, it just helps out a lot too, Is
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  Speaker 6: it true? That's at all?
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  Speaker 4: And you have to thay like today where Travis isn't
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  Speaker 4: with offense, like does anything change or how's that kind
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  Speaker 4: of Uh?
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  Speaker 8: I wouldn't say anything changes. It's just I mean, it's
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  Speaker 8: just next man up for us. Like Parker know, he
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  Speaker 8: gotta come in when Travis is on defense and give
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  Speaker 8: it his all. We know we don't have in our room.
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  Speaker 8: We wanna come in with no drop offs. We wanna
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  Speaker 8: uh everybody to be able to execute the same way.
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  Speaker 8: So I mean that's the biggest thing, just no drop offs.
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  Speaker 8: When Travis go out or if I go out, somebody
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  Speaker 8: else gotta step in and come, uh come, come ready
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  Speaker 8: to go.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, And then kind of in that same since
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  Speaker 4: I know you're going into your second year, but who
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  Speaker 4: are some of the younger players who you've kind of
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  Speaker 4: seen kind of grow.
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  Speaker 6: A little bit since they've been here.
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  Speaker 8: All of them really, whether it's Travis or all the
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  Speaker 8: other uh, all the other rookies, they all come out
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  Speaker 8: each and every day, push each other just to be
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  Speaker 8: the best that they can be. They all work hard
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  Speaker 8: and uh uh so I would say all of 'em,
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  Speaker 8: all of 'em come out here, growing, and it's getting
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  Speaker 8: better each and every day.