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The Erin Molan Show - CHILLING DETAILS: FlyDubai HERO Reveals What REALLY Happened Inside That Cockpit · Salem Podcast Network

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: I think it's an amazing. So a plumber never flew
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: a plane. Strong guy. Lift him up, throw him back.
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  Speaker 2: The crowd was was they knew they were going to
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  Speaker 2: die shortly because the G-forces, but they were.
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  Speaker 1: Able to hold him because he was going crazy and
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  Speaker 1: he was crazy. And this plumber, never having flown a plane,
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  Speaker 1: had the sense to lift a stick.
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  Speaker 3: Who would have?
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, it's not like planes are different today.
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  Speaker 1: You used to have a little steering wheel.
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  Speaker 4: Today, they fly differently.
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  Speaker 2: And when I asked why he did that, he said
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  Speaker 2: he watches that show, Air Disasters. You know the show?
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  Speaker 2: It's that crazy show. I never want to watch it
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  Speaker 2: because I watch it. I don't like watching it because
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  Speaker 2: bad things happen. But he said he watches it a lot.
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  Speaker 2: And he learned from watching that show sort of how
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  Speaker 2: to fly. I mean, you tell me. This is the
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  Speaker 2: craziest thing. And then shortly thereafter, the pilots, you know,
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  Speaker 2: were there in case they have emergency pilots on these planes,
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  Speaker 2: and the security guys, they were in the back of
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  Speaker 2: the plane.
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  Speaker 4: They came up.
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  Speaker 1: They took over the plane. I think it's the most
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  Speaker 1: amazing story. I think it's the most amazing story. Jeff,
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  Speaker 1: that's true. And he happened to be a Jewish plumber.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff is very proud of him.
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  Speaker 1: He was a Jewish.
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  Speaker 2: Plumber, Jeff.
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  Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, not all heroes wear capes. Some, in fact,
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  Speaker 5: carry wrenches. Yaniv Hayun, the man who saved not only
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  Speaker 5: 180 lives in the air, but countless on the ground.
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  Speaker 4: Not to mention.
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  Speaker 5: everyone else who would have been affected had the unthinkable
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  Speaker 5: occurred on that fly Dubai flight. He's an absolute legend.
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  Speaker 5: He's a hero. And it gives me so much joy
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  Speaker 5: to bring him to you. Yaniv, thank you so, so
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  Speaker 5: much for joining us. It's such an honor to have
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  Speaker 5: you on. And it was so lovely to meet you
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  Speaker 5: in person in Israel over the last week or so.
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  Speaker 5: You're better in real life, let me tell you, but
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  Speaker 5: still pretty good down the screen. I want you to
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  Speaker 5: start by taking me through everything that happened from the
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  Speaker 5: moment that you knew something was wrong to the moment
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  Speaker 5: you landed back in Israel.
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  Speaker 4: Arim shalom. Erin, hello.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, I want to thank you for choosing
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  Speaker 3: to interview me on your show. And I want to
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  Speaker 3: tell you about the sequence of events that happened on
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  Speaker 3: the fly Dubai flight from Dubai to Israel. So we
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  Speaker 3: boarded a connecting flight from Dubai to Israel, me, my
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  Speaker 3: wife and my two daughters.
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  Speaker 4: During the flight, after about two hours.
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  Speaker 3: Someone screamed from the front of the plane that there
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  Speaker 3: were stabbings. At that moment, I was sitting in row 11,
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  Speaker 3: seat D, and I immediately got up. At that moment,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know where the stabbings were happening, what was
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  Speaker 3: going on or where it was happening. I thought maybe
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  Speaker 3: it was among the flight attendants or something. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: understand where it was happening. But right at that second,
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  Speaker 3: the lights on the plane went out and the plane
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  Speaker 3: tilted sharply to the left and then straightened out very sharply.
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  Speaker 3: And at that moment, I connected the screams about the
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  Speaker 3: stabbings with the behavior of the plane, somehow the maneuvering
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  Speaker 3: of the plane. And I realized that the distress was
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  Speaker 3: in the cockpit. I immediately shouted to my wife and
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  Speaker 3: daughters to fasten their seatbelts and ran toward the cockpit.
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  Speaker 3: At some point, just before I reached the cockpit, the
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  Speaker 3: plane took a very steep dive. And I was thrown,
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  Speaker 3: I remember it was to the right side, and I
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  Speaker 3: couldn't get up as long as we were in the dive.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't get up and in those seconds I thought
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  Speaker 3: we were going to die, to crash. A thought crossed
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  Speaker 3: my mind, why am I not giving my wife and
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  Speaker 3: daughters one last hug at some point? I don't know
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  Speaker 3: exactly why, but apparently the plane stabilized because I managed
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  Speaker 3: to get up and immediately approached the cockpit door. there
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  Speaker 3: a crew member in a white shirt and uniform who
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  Speaker 3: looked like part of the crew was standing he was
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  Speaker 3: holding the handle he didn't resist as i pushed the
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  Speaker 3: door inward he didn't resist and the door had a
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  Speaker 3: bit of difficulty opening because the legs of the heroic
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  Speaker 3: indian pilot mr smith were blocking the door from opening
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  Speaker 3: inward he was lying behind the door when we entered
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  Speaker 3: we saw him on the floor The entire cockpit was
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  Speaker 3: covered in blood and the terrorist was on his knees
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  Speaker 3: on the instruments between the two pilot seats. There are
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  Speaker 3: two pilot seats and in the middle there are instruments.
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  Speaker 4: He was on his knees on the instruments.
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  Speaker 3: I grabbed him by the throat with my hands, choking
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  Speaker 3: him and pulled him backward while simultaneously shouting for help.
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  Speaker 3: Someone help me. Someone who was behind me. I believe
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  Speaker 3: it was the pilot. He also helped me pull him.
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  Speaker 3: When I got to the door, there were already Israeli
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  Speaker 3: guys there, Tzvika, Asaf, or Dr. Shota, and we neutralized
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  Speaker 3: the terrorist. At that moment, when we neutralized the terrorist
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  Speaker 3: and he was already in the hands of the Israeli guys,
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  Speaker 3: I went back into the cockpit. As I stood there,
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  Speaker 3: I could see the ground from above. It looked like
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  Speaker 3: the plane wasn't diving, but it was at a negative
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  Speaker 3: angle toward the ground. I grabbed the control sticks and
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  Speaker 3: pulled them toward me. At that moment, the pilot came in.
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  Speaker 3: It was just for a few seconds. At that moment,
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  Speaker 3: the replacement pilot came in. I didn't mention at the
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  Speaker 3: beginning of my story that there were two other pilots
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  Speaker 3: on the plane who were sitting with us in.
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  Speaker 4: The regular cabin.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why they were there, but they were
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  Speaker 3: there and they were in pilot uniforms. So at that moment,
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  Speaker 3: one of them came in and told me that from
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  Speaker 3: here he would handle the plane.
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  Speaker 4: He told me to let go. And I did.
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  Speaker 3: He sat down, put on the headphones and started handling
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  Speaker 3: the plane. At that moment, I stood by the door
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  Speaker 3: and another crew member also dressed like a pilot came
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  Speaker 3: and asked to enter. The pilot confirmed to me that
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  Speaker 3: he was okay, that he was part of their crew.
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  Speaker 3: I allowed him to enter. He came in, took out
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  Speaker 3: a tablet and they started communicating. I closed the door
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  Speaker 3: behind me. Inside the cockpit, I saw that they were
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  Speaker 3: actually doing their job because I didn't trust them at
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  Speaker 3: that moment. One of the crew members, during the few
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  Speaker 3: minutes I was there, I saw that they were talking
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  Speaker 3: on the radio and it really seemed like they wanted
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  Speaker 3: to land the plane safely. After a few minutes of
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  Speaker 3: being there with them, there was a very loud noise
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  Speaker 3: outside the door on the plane, banging on the door
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of commotion. I saw through the window
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  Speaker 3: that one of the flight attendants was acting out and
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  Speaker 3: that the Israeli guys were trying to restrain him. So
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  Speaker 3: I shouted to them through the door to calm him down,
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  Speaker 3: to restrain him. It made noise inside the cockpit. And
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  Speaker 3: then the pilot turned to me and asked me for quiet.
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  Speaker 3: He told me that there were already malfunctions on the
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  Speaker 3: plane and that it was hard for him to fly it.
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  Speaker 3: So he asked for quiet and asked me to leave,
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  Speaker 3: to do it from outside.
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  Speaker 4: So I left.
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  Speaker 3: Before I left, he extended his hand to me, thanked me,
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  Speaker 3: shook my hand, and I asked them to lock the
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  Speaker 3: door behind me.
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  Speaker 4: I went outside.
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  Speaker 3: I looked through the peephole first, of course, to make
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  Speaker 3: sure there was no danger right by the door. I
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  Speaker 3: went outside, closed the door behind me, and at that moment,
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  Speaker 3: I grabbed the flight attendant by the shirt and told
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  Speaker 3: him to calm down. I told him that he doesn't
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  Speaker 3: decide what happens here and that he's not entering the cockpit.
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  Speaker 3: We're the ones deciding right now. And I saw Mr. Smith,
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  Speaker 3: the pilot on the right side, Mr. Smith, the hero,
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  Speaker 3: I have to say. He opened the door.
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  Speaker 4: He reached the door with the last of his strength.
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  Speaker 4: He fought.
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  Speaker 3: He fought the terrorist very hard because I saw what
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  Speaker 3: went on inside the cockpit, all that happened there. I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to continue describing it because it was horrific
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  Speaker 3: Saying that he fought to get to the door and open. it,
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  Speaker 3: and thanks to him, I'm here to tell the story.
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  Speaker 3: So he was lying on the right side near the cockpit,
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  Speaker 3: outside the cockpit. The terrorist was tied up with his
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  Speaker 3: legs bound behind his back on the left side. In
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  Speaker 3: my opinion, he was already unconscious. He wasn't functioning. And
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  Speaker 3: the whole way Dr. Shota treated him, I made sure
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  Speaker 3: to lift his legs and do everything Dr. Shota asked
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  Speaker 3: me to. Doto, ensure he stayed conscious. Asaf, Tzvika, Orr,
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  Speaker 3: and maybe some other friends, other Israelis who were on
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  Speaker 3: the plane, they also helped and fought the terrorists and
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  Speaker 3: made sure the whole way that no one would surprise
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  Speaker 3: us or attack us because... Honestly, we didn't trust anyone
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  Speaker 3: from the plane's crew. We didn't know where another action
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  Speaker 3: might come from on their part. And we were on
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  Speaker 3: high alert for almost maybe even more than an hour
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  Speaker 3: until the landing in Saudi Arabia. We treated Mr. Smith,
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  Speaker 3: talked to him. I told him in English that he
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  Speaker 3: wasn't going to die today. And the terrorist, the flight
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  Speaker 3: attendants really wanted to help him and were even whispering
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  Speaker 3: in a language we didn't understand. We shouted at them
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  Speaker 3: to speak only in English so we could understand what
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  Speaker 3: they were saying.
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  Speaker 4: They wanted to release him.
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  Speaker 3: And we made it very clear to them that they
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  Speaker 3: couldn't touch him or release him. At some point toward
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  Speaker 3: the end of the flight near the landing, the terrorist
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  Speaker 3: lifted his head and communicated with them a bit. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't exactly understand what they said, but at the end
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  Speaker 3: of the conversation, he asked them to kill him.
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  Speaker 4: He told them in English, kill me.
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  Speaker 3: And near the landing, I grabbed the PA system and
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  Speaker 3: announced to everyone sitting on the plane to fasten their
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  Speaker 3: seatbelts because we didn't really know what kind of landing
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  Speaker 3: we were going to have. At that point, I knew
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  Speaker 3: there were malfunctions on the plane, but I didn't tell
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  Speaker 3: the passengers to avoid causing panic.
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  Speaker 4: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: We landed in Saudi Arabia. And from there, the police
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  Speaker 3: arrived after some time. An ambulance took Smith for treatment.
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  Speaker 3: They arrested the terrorist and took care of us. They
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  Speaker 3: gave us water, gave us food, treated us very well,
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  Speaker 3: and really took care of us. We have no complaints
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  Speaker 3: about them.
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  Speaker 4: That's it. And then they flew us to Israel.
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  Speaker 5: Again, if Hollywood were given a script, some would say
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  Speaker 5: it's too far-fetched, even for Hollywood. It's hard to comprehend
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  Speaker 5: the enormity of what you have just laid out. I'd
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  Speaker 5: love to know if your wife, who you were sitting
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  Speaker 5: next to, tried to stop you from going to help
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  Speaker 5: or what happened before you jumped up.
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  Speaker 4: No, my wife didn't say anything to me.
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  Speaker 3: She didn't even have the chance because the moment everything started,
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  Speaker 3: I reacted very quickly. The only thing I told them
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  Speaker 3: was to fasten their seatbelts and I literally ran toward
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  Speaker 3: the cockpit. The next time they saw me was when
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  Speaker 3: the plane landed in Saudi Arabia over an hour later.
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  Speaker 5: What do you say to a world that seems to
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  Speaker 5: think you and your people are the side of evil
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  Speaker 5: and this co-pilot and his people are somehow the side
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  Speaker 5: of good?
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  Speaker 3: I say, stop for a moment, look at who the
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  Speaker 3: terrorists tried to murder, who was on the plane. There
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  Speaker 3: were so many kids, lots of kids coming back from vacation,
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  Speaker 3: who just wanted to travel a bit with their families,
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  Speaker 3: with their parents, moms and dads, older people. Don't forget,
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  Speaker 3: he waited at the entrance to the plane. He welcomed us.
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  Speaker 3: He saw all the kids. He saw all the people.
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  Speaker 3: And he knew in his mind down that he was
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  Speaker 3: about to murder all of us just because we are Jewish,
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  Speaker 3: not for any other reason. So I ask you, What
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  Speaker 3: kind of monster do you have to be to think
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  Speaker 3: like that? Imagine you're in my place. I'm boarding with
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  Speaker 3: my wife and my two daughters. He's on the plane.
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  Speaker 3: He's looking at us. And all he wants is to
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  Speaker 3: kill us. How much evil, how much evil does it take?
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  Speaker 4: How much? I'm trying to understand, really. I'm trying to imagine.
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  Speaker 4: And I just can't. I can't wrap my head around it.
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  Speaker 4: That is actually so....
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  Speaker 5: Chilling and I hadn't even thought of that part of
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  Speaker 5: it that he would have seen coming on the faces
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  Speaker 5: of children he was intending to kill and not only
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  Speaker 5: kill but put through such fear and horror and pain
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  Speaker 5: right beforehand knowing what he was about to force people
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  Speaker 5: to endure and was completely okay with it. Let's finish
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  Speaker 5: on a somewhat more positive note. President Trump, in fact,
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  Speaker 5: he said this about you.
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  Speaker 6: I just want to thank and congratulate Yaniv Hayun, who's
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  Speaker 6: a Israeli plumber and he's a Trump fan. I'm a
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  Speaker 6: fan of his, a big fan. He saved that flight yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: He did an amazing job. He got in there and
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  Speaker 6: he learned how to fly by watching air disasters on television.
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  Speaker 6: And he's my kind of guy. He can be my plumber.
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  Speaker 6: He can be whatever he wants to be. What a
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  Speaker 6: job he did.
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  Speaker 4: He's a hero.
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  Speaker 6: And I want to just congratulate him and his family.
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  Speaker 6: You like me and I like you. Thank you, Yaniv.
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  Speaker 5: I'd love to know if there are any plans to
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  Speaker 5: meet with President Trump. I'm assuming you want to, you
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  Speaker 5: would like to. And if so, will you sail there?
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: Are we avoiding flights for the next little while?
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  Speaker 4: Meeting President Trump, I really don't know. As you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's not up to me.
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  Speaker 3: But if he invites me, I promise you that even
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  Speaker 3: if there's no boat, I'll do it by swimming.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: I'll do it by swimming.
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  Speaker 5: Look, I suspect you won't be forced to swim and
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  Speaker 5: I suspect you will get to meet the US president
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  Speaker 5: at some stage, I have no doubt. Yaniv, thank you
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  Speaker 5: for your courage, not only in that moment but in
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  Speaker 5: the aftermath, to share your story, to help show the
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: world what it is to be Israeli, to be Jewish,
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  Speaker 5: and the kind of evil that you faced in that
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  Speaker 5: cockpit but that exists all around us in the most
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  Speaker 5: terrifying of ways. Thank you for helping save the world,
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  Speaker 5: not just that flight.
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  Speaker 3: Erin, on a personal note, I want to thank you
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  Speaker 3: for standing by the truth in such an inspiring way.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: You don't have to thank me even a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: The honor is mine, and it's a privilege. to tell
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  Speaker 5: the truth and to stand on the right side of history,
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  Speaker 5: as are you, my friend. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: You're amazing.