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Could You Be Living In A Haunted Flat? · Tales from Incredible Tales

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Speaker 1: One story was that of a woman who while out
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Speaker 1: on a nighttime jog, snapped a photo of a figure
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Speaker 1: with long hair in a white dress, sitting alone on
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Speaker 1: a beach in Pasir Ris Park near Sungai Apiapi.
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Speaker 1: My name is Pha.
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Speaker 2: My name is Wayne.
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Speaker 1: My name is Kyle, and this is Tales from Incredible Tales.
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Speaker 1: Inspired by the classic Mediacorp series, we explore different aspects
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Speaker 1: of Southeast Asia's supernatural culture from supposedly haunted locations to
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Speaker 1: creatures and spirits. So for this episode, the supernatural hits
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Speaker 1: close to home, quite literally as far, Wayne and I
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Speaker 1: look at Singapore's eeriest estate.
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Speaker 1: This episode's topic is inspired by the original Incredible Tales episode.
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Speaker 1: It's not
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Speaker 1: over.
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Speaker 2: OK, look, obviously, we're not going to be able to
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Speaker 2: cover every estate that is supposedly haunted in just one episode.
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Speaker 2: If you want to see more of this though, let
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Speaker 2: us know in the comments.
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Speaker 1: Our
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Speaker 1: first eerie estate from what we have learned has had
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Speaker 1: a particular story surrounding it since the 90s. A resident
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Speaker 1: of a flat in Bedok North Avenue 4 had been
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Speaker 1: cheating on his wife.
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Speaker 1: Unable to cope with her husband's infidelity, the wife, clad
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Speaker 1: in a red wedding dress, threw herself and her 3
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Speaker 1: year old son out of their 25th story flat.
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Speaker 1: Before she took her life, however, she had written, it's
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Speaker 1: not over, darling, in Mandarin, on a wall in their
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Speaker 1: flat in her own blood. After his wife's death, the
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Speaker 1: man would end up marrying his mistress. The couple continued
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Speaker 1: to stay in the flat and had a son of
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Speaker 1: their own.
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Speaker 1: When the son turned 3, he started playing with an
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Speaker 1: imaginary coco, which for our international viewers means Big Brother
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Speaker 1: in Mandarin. From what we have read, the son eventually
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Speaker 1: said that he was going to quote play Superman with Koro, unquote.
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Speaker 1: Then threw himself out of the flat's window. The phrase,
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Speaker 1: this is for mommy was found in Mandarin in the
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Speaker 1: master bedroom. Apparently, the flat has remained vacant for years.
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Speaker 1: Neighbors supposedly heard people crying and laughing from within the unit.
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Speaker 1: While researching the story, however, we haven't found an article
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Speaker 1: from any major newspaper that corroborates the incident of the
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Speaker 1: woman taking her and her son's life. Even the Incredible
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Speaker 1: Tas episode that was inspired by the story calls it
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Speaker 1: an urban legend. I know what he's gonna say, I
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Speaker 1: know what he's gonna say.
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Speaker 2: We love
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Speaker 1: the
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Speaker 2: voice.
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Speaker 2: We do love the voice. We do love you. Thank you. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: What I was gonna say also was, here's the thing,
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Speaker 2: I've seen that Incredible Tales episode. Obviously for, for, for
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Speaker 2: this show. I've seen it multiple times now. I always,
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Speaker 2: I know that they mentioned it, but I always forget
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Speaker 2: that they say it's an urban legend. So in my head, right,
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Speaker 2: it
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Speaker 1: sounds
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Speaker 2: true,
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Speaker 1: right?
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Speaker 2: It sounds true. It sounds like this livable.
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Speaker 1: Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it is true lah. I mean, my, my take is that, OK, context.
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Speaker 2: Very important
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Speaker 1: contexts. I've been to that unit outside that unit because
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Speaker 1: of incredible tales actually. This was this was before Hantu.
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Speaker 1: This was before us doing horror content. This was like, uh,
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Speaker 1: secondary school Kyle. So you know, you and your friends, uh,
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Speaker 1: after supper, then you're like, hey, you know, there's this
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Speaker 1: haunted place in North Avenue 4, that, that, that is supposedly, uh, vacant.
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Speaker 1: Then maybe we go to the unit outside.
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Speaker 1: So you know at midnight, 12 a.m. we went up
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Speaker 1: the 25th floor point block 25th floor. Uh, there's only
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Speaker 1: 4 units, then we went to that particular unit and
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Speaker 1: uh what we found was, I think it, it is
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Speaker 1: already occupied, but
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Speaker 1: There was very specific, uh, Christian, uh, phrase. Uh, the Lord, uh,
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Speaker 1: presides or looks after this house, blah blah blah blah blah.
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Speaker 1: So it's quite a long line from a prayer, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's like a phrase from the Bible. Then they have
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Speaker 1: the number, right? So then we saw that we were like,
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Speaker 1: oh that's creepy.
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Speaker 1: Uh, and then, uh, we, we, we actually went on
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Speaker 1: to knock the door. Because we were young and stupid, um,
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Speaker 1: it looked like it had someone in it, but it,
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Speaker 1: but nobody answered, obviously it was like 12 a.m., uh, guys,
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Speaker 1: please don't go and disturb people in the middle of
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Speaker 1: the night, but, but.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was our, uh, extent of, uh, finding that place.
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Speaker 1: So that place exists. uh, we cannot tell you where
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Speaker 1: it is. I think, uh, I know where because I
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Speaker 1: used to stay at Burton North Avenue 4, particularly, uh,
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Speaker 1: I cannot mention the block. I don't mention it wasn't
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Speaker 1: your block, right.
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Speaker 1: No, no, it wasn't mine, mine is the the the
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Speaker 1: uh rental rental, but I didn't know before this, I
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Speaker 1: didn't know that the blog was that has has this.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the urban legend, but, but, uh,
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Speaker 1: I grew up in Bedok, so, uh, I have friends
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Speaker 1: who stay there. Some of them say that it's real.
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Speaker 1: It actually happened.
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Speaker 1: Some of, some of them say that I never heard
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Speaker 1: this story, but, uh, most of them can agree that
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Speaker 1: that area is extremely creepy because it's facing some of
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Speaker 1: the blocks are facing PIE, right? Actually the whole stretch PIE.
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Speaker 1: The scary part is not that it faces the highway.
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Speaker 1: The scary part is that it actually, uh, that the
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Speaker 1: area where it faces the highway is an entire park. Uh,
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Speaker 1: I used to stay at one of those blocks, and then, and,
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Speaker 1: you know, the corridor right directly faced towards the park. So.
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Speaker 1: Uh, from my unit at that point of time, I
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Speaker 1: live at level 6, I think, right? So from my unit,
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Speaker 1: whenever you look outside, right, it's just like one big tree,
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Speaker 1: you know, and usually people would throw like, you know,
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Speaker 1: sometimes they throw their pillow down and they will hang
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Speaker 1: at the tree. So there's a few when I was young, right,
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Speaker 1: there's a few occasions that, you know, uh, because it's
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Speaker 1: normal for us to see like there's there's something hanging
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Speaker 1: at the tree, right? So there's a few occasions that,
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Speaker 1: you know, I saw it once only.
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Speaker 1: And then it disappeared, you get what I mean. So
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Speaker 1: usually we will see, we will see like a pillow
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Speaker 1: hanging or like a cloth hanging, right? So there's this
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Speaker 1: one time, uh, I saw like a white figure, but
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Speaker 1: then when I look again, it's not, it's not there anymore.
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Speaker 1: It's like a splash
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Speaker 2: immediately after you
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Speaker 2: look again it's,
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Speaker 1: yeah, yeah, yeah, and that, that, that, how to say
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Speaker 1: because my unit, right, OK, the lift is here, my
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Speaker 1: unit is.
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Speaker 1: Right at the end beside the beside the staircase, you know,
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Speaker 1: so late at night sometimes you can hear, it might
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Speaker 1: be might be humans, but sometimes it's in the wee
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Speaker 1: hours of the morning, you know, you can just hear
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Speaker 1: random footsteps, you know, you sometimes hear people like murmuring
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Speaker 1: like talking or so.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but, but, uh, I grew up in
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Speaker 1: that house, and, uh, it's, it's, it's very, it's quite eerie, honestly,
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Speaker 1: even though, even though it's not the same block, but
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Speaker 1: it's still North Avenue is that area, right? So, so, uh,
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Speaker 1: I have friends who who are still staying there, uh,
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Speaker 1: another point block, OK, but they say that their park
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Speaker 1: right at night is super eerie, is extremely eerie, uh,
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Speaker 1: and supposedly haunted la uh.
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Speaker 1: You one can say that it could be the area
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Speaker 1: because uh there is a school that is right next
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Speaker 1: to the right that's facing uh the car park. supposedly
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Speaker 1: certain parts of that school is haunted also yeah, and
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Speaker 1: uh they erected a certain religious uh statue to face
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Speaker 1: the highway.
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Speaker 1: So as to uh not like cause accident or something
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Speaker 1: like because there were some casualties that that happened, that
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Speaker 1: that is uh from people who actually stayed and study
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Speaker 1: in the school, so they were telling me, oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: so this this place is like that la because we
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Speaker 1: were sharing the, the, the, the point block story, then
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Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, yeah, this area is quite haunted, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so, but it is creepy lah, like I think after, after,
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Speaker 1: after I shift shifted to, to, to, uh, to other
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Speaker 1: houses so whenever I send, you know, I used to
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Speaker 1: work as a delivery rider, right, and whenever I send
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Speaker 1: to those areas especially at night, it's, I don't know
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Speaker 1: why it's just like.
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Speaker 1: I know it's a, it's not nostalgic because like it's
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Speaker 1: my childhood place, but it's there's a, there's a heavy
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Speaker 1: feeling about
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Speaker 1: it.
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Speaker 2: Now, if ever there was a neighborhood that was going
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Speaker 2: to inspire tales of the supernatural, uh, it was going
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Speaker 2: to be Bishan. Hi Bishan. um, we did a bit
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Speaker 2: of digging, I swear no pun intended, uh, and we
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Speaker 2: learned that Bishan Newtown was built on the former site
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Speaker 2: of Kwong Yu Pekan thing, a cemetery that was established
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Speaker 2: in 1870.
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Speaker 2: The site wasn't just a cemetery though. Um, it also
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Speaker 2: housed a Cantonese village initially populated by a small community
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Speaker 2: of practitioners in the funeral trade. So we're talking about
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Speaker 2: people like cemetery caretakers, uh, peddlers of funeral paraphernalia, and
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Speaker 2: tombstone engravers. Um, that neighborhood group must have been very,
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Speaker 2: very interesting. Uh, exhumation of the cemetery began in 1982.
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Speaker 2: The Bishan MRT station opened in 1987.
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Speaker 2: And right from the beginning, it became the topic of
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Speaker 2: ghost stories. We've read that construction workers who built the
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Speaker 2: station claimed to have seen a funeral procession on the
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Speaker 2: train tracks, uh, with a Hitler's ghost. I love how
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Speaker 2: you're nodding. We will get to this in almost immediately.
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Speaker 2: People have supposedly seen passengers who don't cast reflections in
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Speaker 2: the train's windows. At least one article online also mentions
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Speaker 2: faceless passengers waiting on the train platforms.
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Speaker 2: Not very much. I,
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Speaker 1: I
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Speaker 1: heard about that before, you know, the,
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Speaker 2: the funeral procession,
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Speaker 1: uh, yes, yes, yes, something about funeral. So, uh, there's
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Speaker 1: this story I read for my show, right? It's, um,
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Speaker 1: but this is, this is, uh, I'm sorry, yeah, this
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Speaker 1: is a Chinese cemetery, is it? Yeah, yeah. So the
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Speaker 1: one I talk about is uh another cemetery. So I
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Speaker 1: heard about the incident whereby they see people working at
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Speaker 1: the in the MRT, right.
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Speaker 1: They see during construction, they saw someone carrying or like
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Speaker 1: uh pushing the casket they, they pushed the dead body.
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Speaker 1: Can we just address the fact that right like how
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Speaker 1: like our country is so productive. You exhume in 1982,
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Speaker 1: then the MRT completed in 1987. 0 my God, 5 years,
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Speaker 1: 5 years. The soil haven't really set yet.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh
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Speaker 1: my God, like, uh, I have a story that is
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Speaker 1: a short story that I've heard about Bishan. Uh, apparently
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Speaker 1: after they built a new town, uh, they kept some
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Speaker 1: of the, the cemetery, uh, things that were there like, uh, there,
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Speaker 1: there's like a
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Speaker 1: I think like a small pavilion, like a shelter that
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Speaker 1: is built for the cemetery, so people can rest there
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Speaker 1: lah when they go and pray. So they kept that,
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Speaker 1: but there were a lot of complaints uh to the
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Speaker 1: authorities that especially taxi drivers at night, they kept seeing
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Speaker 1: uh like
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Speaker 1: Spirits sitting on the pavilion itself, like specifically a female spirit,
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Speaker 1: no they no, no, on the pavilion, you know, the
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Speaker 1: shelter on top of the seat. It's physically not possible
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Speaker 1: unless you have a ladder, so they just sit there
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Speaker 1: at night like there's creepy things are then, then, uh,
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Speaker 1: apparently it was, uh, demolished after that because there was
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Speaker 1: too many complaints people like you got ghost, yeah, so they,
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Speaker 1: they have to remove that la.
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Speaker 1: Uh, but of course, you know, uh, with what we
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Speaker 1: do in Singapore is that they usually will be a temple.
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Speaker 1: So there is a temple that I think is, uh,
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Speaker 1: built on the grounds of the like the main part
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Speaker 1: of the cemetery that's still in Bishan. Like is it
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Speaker 1: like a small temple or like a big, really big temple?
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Speaker 2: It's episode 2 now, so this is the first time, um,
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Speaker 2: we're we're recording in the studio with this new setup.
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Speaker 2: So while Kyle is telling the story of the female
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Speaker 2: ghost sitting on top of the of the pavilion, here
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Speaker 2: I am looking in that direction.
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Speaker 2: And just thinking to myself like I prefer to go
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Speaker 2: set up in terms of where she's at your back.
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Speaker 2: I'd rather she be behind me because then I can
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Speaker 2: pretend she's not, she's not there at all and just
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Speaker 2: like yeah we we're not moving
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Speaker 2: her
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Speaker 1: she's just looking at you. I'll follow you tonight.
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Speaker 2: Hey.
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Speaker 2: Two episodes in guys, come on, come on.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, um, Bishan, it has a special place in my
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Speaker 1: heart because, uh, uh, there was a period of time
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Speaker 1: where my, my cousin and his family stayed there, uh, and, uh,
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Speaker 1: every school holiday, June holidays, we will go over to
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Speaker 1: stay because they stay in a pretty big house, and
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Speaker 1: then they stay right at the, uh, the edge of
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Speaker 1: uh Bishan that's facing Junction 8, so it's right in
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Speaker 1: the middle, uh, then.
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Speaker 1: I always get freaked out because there was the period
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Speaker 1: of time where I started reading a lot of true
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Speaker 1: Singapore ghost stories and there were a lot of stories
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Speaker 1: that was about Bishan. When I read, read the Bishan,
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Speaker 1: I was like, then I took a look at my cousin.
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Speaker 1: Your house, your house last time 73, I said, Yeah, why?
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Speaker 1: Then why? I mean, I mean to him he's not scared,
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Speaker 1: but I was a pretty coward kid. I was like, Why?
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Speaker 1: Why you all buy a house here, not realizing the prices, right, uh, then, uh, yeah, there,
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Speaker 1: there were times at night that, you know, we will
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Speaker 1: hear dogs howling.
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Speaker 1: Because land the area along dogs they just howl for
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Speaker 1: the no for no reason and you know the the
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Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah, it's usually whenever whenever there's a dog
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Speaker 1: howling or what it means something is there. They saw
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Speaker 1: something and it's not like one it's like a few
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Speaker 1: they all how to.
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Speaker 1: that's even more scary. Yeah, that's the scary part now like,
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Speaker 2: yeah, that's the thing. I, I honestly, it's only fairly
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Speaker 2: recently that I learned that Bishan used to be a cemetery. Oh,
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Speaker 2: is it? I had no idea. I genuinely had no
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Speaker 2: idea and like I had relatives who lived in Bishan
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Speaker 2: for the longest time, so I go over there and.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's more a testament to my family more
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Speaker 2: than anything else. They're so bloody loud. It's hard to
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Speaker 2: be frightened in the neighborhood when you have my family living.
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Speaker 1: Trust me, you're not the only one. Yeah, but ironically
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Speaker 1: now it's one of the most expensive estates in Singapore.
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Speaker 2: I was just gonna make a joke.
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Speaker 2: But now the most frightening thing about Bishan is the
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Speaker 2: prices for the flats.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very expensive. Even, even the, even the spirits
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Speaker 1: that I
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Speaker 2: that's why I'm not afraid that there's gonna be ghosts
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Speaker 2: on there. They probably got priced out also, yeah, so
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Speaker 2: they're like, I cannot afford to haunt this place anymore.
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Speaker 1: It's texting you, you guys realize, right, like, uh, whenever they, they,
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Speaker 1: they exhume a place that you sanctuary, they will confirm
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Speaker 1: build some place of worship there if I'm not wrong, right,
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Speaker 1: it used to be like a cemetery.
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Speaker 1: Malay cemeteryri is fairy, right? It means fairy, right? dari
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Speaker 1: means like dari is like a lady rightdaridadarihatiku right means you,
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Speaker 1: how to say it's like, um, the love of yeah
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Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah something like that. Well, it sounds a
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Speaker 1: bit scary, you know, it it is you you say
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Speaker 1: like oh especially like like da dari, but it's it's
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Speaker 1: actually like um.
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Speaker 1: It's a scary place actually allegedly lah. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of allegedly and supposedly, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: speaking of allegedly, so the next place we're going to
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Speaker 1: talk about is Wayne and I have discussed about Spooner
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Speaker 1: Road on our own show, uh, but some places are
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Speaker 1: so harassed that they deserve to be talked about it again, right?
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Speaker 1: Smer roads blocks were built in 1970s and used to
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Speaker 1: house the now defunct Tanjong Pagar railway station's staff and
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Speaker 1: their families, but when the station closed, some of the flats, right,
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Speaker 1: were left empty for many, many years, and then, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, like because we are a productive nation.
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Speaker 1: Eventually, they were used as a rental apartments for low
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Speaker 1: income residents, uh, and during that time, those people who
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Speaker 1: were living there claimed to have heard unexplained sounds and
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Speaker 1: catch glimpses of darting shadows. The blocks have been vacated
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Speaker 1: and are slated to be demolished, but the site of
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Speaker 1: the empty corridors and the flats only adds to the
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Speaker 1: already established creepiness. Have you been there?
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Speaker 1: Um, 2 times, yeah, so first, when I was doing
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Speaker 1: delivery and then second after it got, uh, it got vacated. OK,
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Speaker 1: so when I did uh delivery, right, there's this one afternoon, la,
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Speaker 1: I remember this, this, this story, there's this one afternoon
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Speaker 1: I sending a right, so I parked the bike, so
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Speaker 1: I walked to the lift, right. So it was quite,
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Speaker 1: I mean it took me 1 minute, la, at least,
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Speaker 1: at least less or roughly one minute I had to
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Speaker 1: walk to the lift, right.
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Speaker 1: So when the lift opened, right, just imagine I pressed
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Speaker 1: the lift, I was holding the foot, right? I pressed
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Speaker 1: the lift, the lift opened. Suddenly there's one like school
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Speaker 1: girl inside. I swear, I kid you not, suddenly I
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Speaker 1: saw then then she was using her phone and then
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Speaker 1: she looked up. Then I legitimately got scared, you know,
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Speaker 1: because like it was, why, why is she inside? Like
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Speaker 1: why is she sliding from what you get what I mean?
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Speaker 1: And it was like almost dust, right, almost it's quite
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Speaker 1: dark already, right.
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Speaker 1: Then like, uh, which floor you want to go? OK,
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Speaker 1: then press then like, you know, I don't know, I
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Speaker 1: got so spooked. I don't know if she's human or not,
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Speaker 1: but then I saw her walking and then I see
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Speaker 1: her leg like touching the ground right now, not, not,
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Speaker 1: not ghost
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Speaker 2: la. OK, my, my reasoning is if for now if
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Speaker 2: anybody is using a handphone
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Speaker 2: should be just
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Speaker 1: pay attention. Don't, don't scare, don't scare me because if
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Speaker 1: I'm not wrong, the, the leaf back then, right at
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Speaker 1: that point of time, right, I think that it has
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Speaker 1: the glass, the window, but it's, it's quite small, it's
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Speaker 1: quite slim.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, so I didn't get to see inside and
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Speaker 1: that
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Speaker 2: that
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Speaker 2: area is just, I mean, I've passed by it recently
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Speaker 2: and I passed by it recently at night just the
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Speaker 2: perfect location, right, for ghost stories. I think the scariest
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Speaker 2: thing about it, right, is not how dark and abandoned
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Speaker 2: it is. It's dark and abandoned and everywhere else around it, right?
17:56
Speaker 2: There's so much life. There's there's all these flats around
17:59
Speaker 2: it the people moving around here and there it it
18:01
Speaker 2: almost seems like just this weird.
18:03
Speaker 2: Dark spot in the middle of normal life just going
18:07
Speaker 2: on and for me that makes it extra creepy just
18:09
Speaker 2: because of how, how much it contrasts with what's going
18:12
Speaker 2: on everywhere else.
18:13
Speaker 1: So another story is when it's already vacated, um, so I,
18:17
Speaker 1: me and a few of my friends went there to
18:20
Speaker 1: just see la to to explore at that point of
18:23
Speaker 1: time we thought that there's still people living in there lah,
18:26
Speaker 1: but then it's.
18:26
Speaker 1: Apparently it's vacated. So we just walk around. So you know,
18:29
Speaker 1: there's two blocks and then in the middle is the
18:31
Speaker 1: open car park, right? So when we were walking, right, you,
18:35
Speaker 1: I kid you not, you can, you can feel that,
18:36
Speaker 1: you know, there are people watching you, looking at you
18:38
Speaker 1: from like, you know, the kitchen kitchen window, right? You
18:41
Speaker 1: can you can feel that, that, that, that sensation.
18:44
Speaker 2: Do you think the older blocks in Singapore kind of
18:46
Speaker 2: have that maybe I guess kampong days where it's got
18:49
Speaker 2: that feel of like, you know, the unknown, it feels
18:51
Speaker 2: a bit creepier just because you associated with like.
18:55
Speaker 2: The kampong days and when when things were less well lit,
18:59
Speaker 2: when things were a bit more mysterious,
19:01
Speaker 1: might be true, but I think in my opinion, right,
19:04
Speaker 1: why like older estate is scarier, right, is because usually
19:08
Speaker 1: there are older people living in it, OK, and then if,
19:13
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you are aware, you know, older
19:15
Speaker 1: people like I think my for like for for Malay community, right,
19:18
Speaker 1: they like to have likes soccer, you know, they they
19:22
Speaker 1: like they they they they require this gin.
19:25
Speaker 1: You know, to help them, you know, sometimes because sometimes
19:27
Speaker 1: they are poor. So, uh, back then during the kampong days,
19:31
Speaker 1: they don't have any anyone to take care of their
19:34
Speaker 1: farm or whatever lah, right? So they, they use, uh,
19:38
Speaker 1: these spirits or these genes right to to help them
19:41
Speaker 1: and then it got passed on, passed on, passed on,
19:43
Speaker 1: and then usually when it like after it's being passed
19:46
Speaker 1: on for a few times and then
19:48
Speaker 1: the person living in the older estate, usually they want
19:50
Speaker 1: to clear it out, they want to throw it. So
19:53
Speaker 1: sometimes some people say that they throw their jeans, they
19:56
Speaker 1: they they throw their spirit uh at the block. They
19:59
Speaker 1: they find a tree or something, they just, all right,
20:01
Speaker 1: you stay here, I don't want to be with you anymore. bye-bye,
20:05
Speaker 1: you know, something like that. And then these spirits that
20:08
Speaker 1: that that linger in that location, right, they were trying
20:10
Speaker 1: to find new, new, new uh owner.
20:14
Speaker 2: So it, so if they just leave it at the tree, that's,
20:17
Speaker 2: that's it.
20:18
Speaker 1: I think
20:18
Speaker 1: most, most of the, most of the time that's what
20:21
Speaker 1: they do at the tree usually, usually they will find like,
20:26
Speaker 1: I don't know, this is what I heard, usually 33
20:28
Speaker 1: or or it's like, you know, they, they in their,
20:30
Speaker 1: in their own house, you know, they call and they
20:32
Speaker 1: will start, you know, to come in and go cleanse
20:34
Speaker 1: them out.
20:34
Speaker 1: And then, yeah, it's free to go wherever they want.
20:38
Speaker 1: Some people put it in a bottle, then they throw
20:39
Speaker 1: it in the sea, they throw it in the beach.
20:42
Speaker 2: That's that's the one I heard. OK, what from what
20:44
Speaker 2: I've heard there's there's not much like in terms of
20:47
Speaker 2: ceremony when they, when they try to get rid of it.
20:49
Speaker 2: It's just you will, you will leave it somewhere, but
20:53
Speaker 2: like I
20:54
Speaker 2: So like if you live in the tree, I can't
20:56
Speaker 2: imagine like it's just gonna stay down there. I figured
20:59
Speaker 2: it will like try to find you again. Yeah,
21:01
Speaker 1: I would imagine so because it was a rental flat, right?
21:04
Speaker 1: And then uh maybe elderly sometimes they passed away alone
21:06
Speaker 1: then people come and go, right, come and go. So
21:09
Speaker 1: the energy left there is quite strong and the strange
21:13
Speaker 1: thing is that a lot of these stories, right, revolves
21:16
Speaker 1: around one older blocks to rental flats. Tanglin Hall is
21:21
Speaker 1: also one of them, right.
21:23
Speaker 1: So it's, yeah, there could be some correlation to that.
21:27
Speaker 1: Moving on to our last location, Sungai Apipi. I'm pretty
21:30
Speaker 1: sure you guys know, right? It feels like there have
21:33
Speaker 1: always been rumors about the river as a place where
21:36
Speaker 1: murders and suicides have happened. Uh, our own research didn't
21:40
Speaker 1: turn out much. Uh, we could only find two reports
21:43
Speaker 1: about bodies in the river. One was of a 29
21:47
Speaker 1: year old man.
21:48
Speaker 1: Police were investigating this as an unnatural death. The other
21:52
Speaker 1: report was of a 22 year old Malaysian woman, though
21:56
Speaker 1: the police didn't suspect foul play in this instance. So,
22:00
Speaker 1: but that's not all it's known for. Back when it
22:02
Speaker 1: was still heavily forested, the area was rumored to be
22:05
Speaker 1: a place where black magic was practiced.
22:08
Speaker 1: And there are stories and accounts. One story was that
22:13
Speaker 1: of a woman who while out on a nighttime jog,
22:16
Speaker 1: snapped a photo of a figure with long hair in
22:19
Speaker 1: a white dress, sitting alone on a beach in Pasir
22:22
Speaker 1: Ris Park near Sungai Apiapi.
22:25
Speaker 1: The bench was located in a very dark area, so
22:28
Speaker 1: her photo was wasn't very clear. The woman didn't think
22:32
Speaker 1: much about it.
22:34
Speaker 1: Until later on during her job, when even though she
22:37
Speaker 1: was using her earpiece, she heard a faint voice call
22:40
Speaker 1: out to her repeatedly. The woman told a local news source, quote,
22:45
Speaker 1: I had goosebumps and the hair at the back of
22:47
Speaker 1: my neck stooth. I know it wasn't a human because
22:50
Speaker 1: there was no one else around, end quote.
22:53
Speaker 1: The woman returned home safely, but after the eventful night,
22:57
Speaker 1: she showed the photo to friends and family who noticed
23:00
Speaker 1: one very disturbing detail that she had missed. Once they
23:04
Speaker 1: zoom in onto the photo, they realized that the figure
23:08
Speaker 1: they saw on the bench didn't have legs. Oh yeah, OK,
23:12
Speaker 2: OK, we'll get to this in a little bit, but
23:14
Speaker 2: there is another story, and this one involved a real
23:17
Speaker 2: estate agent who was showing a couple an executive me overlooking.
23:23
Speaker 2: Sounds like a nice place. Uh, the agent had initially
23:25
Speaker 2: posted a video on TikTok about the incident, but later
23:28
Speaker 2: took it down, which, you know, not suspicious at all. Um,
23:33
Speaker 2: a magazine, however, related what was in the video in
23:36
Speaker 2: an article they posted last year. So the showing began
23:38
Speaker 2: at 8:00 p.m. when the agent and the couple arrived
23:41
Speaker 2: on the 8th floor, uh, the agent caught a whiff
23:44
Speaker 2: of a quote, strong flower smell. Mhm.
23:49
Speaker 2: Ah, end quote. The agent and the couple were greeted
23:53
Speaker 2: at the unit for sale by what he described as
23:55
Speaker 2: a friendly uncle.
23:57
Speaker 2: The unit itself though was dark and eerie and to
24:01
Speaker 2: make things even more unsettling, the agent learned that this
24:04
Speaker 2: uncle wanted to sell this place because his wife had
24:07
Speaker 2: passed away there.
24:09
Speaker 2: His clients took a look around the flat but soon
24:11
Speaker 2: came running down the stairs uh from the unit 2nd floor,
24:16
Speaker 2: demanding that they leave immediately.
24:19
Speaker 2: So once they were safely on the ground floor, the
24:21
Speaker 2: couple shared what they saw.
24:23
Speaker 2: In one of the rooms on the unit's 2nd floor,
24:26
Speaker 2: there was a doll on the floor with jossticks and
24:29
Speaker 2: offerings in front of it, just like the kind you
24:32
Speaker 2: would see during the Hungry Ghost month.
24:35
Speaker 2: While looking at the doll, the wife noticed an old
24:37
Speaker 2: lady walking past her.
24:40
Speaker 2: When she turned towards the direction of the old lady door,
24:43
Speaker 2: no one was there, but she did hear the bedroom
24:45
Speaker 2: door start to creak and that's when they came running down.
24:51
Speaker 2: Sungai
24:53
Speaker 1: it's very fitting because Sungai RBRP was the first episode
24:56
Speaker 1: of Incredible Tales, the very first when we saw art,
25:00
Speaker 1: and then the background of Sungai RVRP. Uh, yeah, it's
25:03
Speaker 1: very fitting. Um, the first story I, I see the photo, we, we,
25:08
Speaker 1: we do horror, so, so, so people do send us stuff,
25:12
Speaker 1: like to see la. So when that happened, people actually
25:14
Speaker 1: sent us, uh, the photo then I was like, oh
25:16
Speaker 1: my God.
25:17
Speaker 1: Uh, PRP, there's a saying that you know when you
25:20
Speaker 1: are closer to a body of water, um, more tragic
25:24
Speaker 1: things would happen actually it's true like it's almost like
25:28
Speaker 1: humans are.
25:29
Speaker 1: Attracted to water in in in my in my religion, right,
25:33
Speaker 1: we believe that the water, right, the body of water is, is,
25:37
Speaker 1: is where the jin live. Yeah, yeah. So, so a
25:41
Speaker 1: lot of, a lot of them live there basically. So
25:44
Speaker 1: would you like, would you say that like it's it's
25:47
Speaker 1: dangerous to go out in the sea to swim, to swim,
25:51
Speaker 1: you know, I, I did that before. I did that before.
25:53
Speaker 1: So I, I.
25:55
Speaker 1: I don't know this one, like, it depends it depends
25:58
Speaker 1: on your family. I think my family was fine because
26:00
Speaker 1: when I was young, I just swim swim in the
26:02
Speaker 1: in the beach, but knowing that they live there la, yeah, but,
26:05
Speaker 1: but the thing is like usually we, we swim in
26:07
Speaker 1: the in the like afternoon morning, at night if at
26:11
Speaker 1: night then you finding trouble la.
26:14
Speaker 1: But it, yeah, but yeah, also on our end we
26:17
Speaker 1: do receive quite a few stories from that area, uh, when, when,
26:22
Speaker 1: when people give us ghost stories, uh, uh, it's usually
26:26
Speaker 1: from Pasir Ris, uh, and then people straight away oh
26:29
Speaker 1: because that's the main spot you see either that or
26:33
Speaker 1: the other tower, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, the tower, yeah, correct, correct, yeah, so, so, uh.
26:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, I, I, I when I saw the first, uh,
26:42
Speaker 1: the first stories photo, there I was like, well, that's
26:44
Speaker 1: very creepy.
26:45
Speaker 2: See, aka, very good motivation for, for keeping up
26:47
Speaker 1: your fitness. I think the faster you will run, you
26:51
Speaker 1: will clock your best timing because she said, she said,
26:53
Speaker 1: you know, only, only until later then she found out
26:56
Speaker 1: that doesn't that the lady don't have any legs, right, yeah,
27:00
Speaker 1: and she thought it was a human like quite creepy, yeah,
27:02
Speaker 1: like maybe at first or very creepy. I take picture first.
27:06
Speaker 2: I, I love that she was like we'll see how creepy.
27:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, so then the, the, the, the second story that
27:14
Speaker 1: Wayne shared was about the executive. OK, now this, this
27:17
Speaker 1: I have thoughts on it. Now, like any other Singaporeans, uh,
27:20
Speaker 1: I'm always looking out for property, right? I'm always looking
27:22
Speaker 1: out to find the best deal, upgrade, upgrade, right.
27:26
Speaker 1: Then, uh, I, I love the size of mention it,
27:29
Speaker 1: and to be honest, I, I do look at Sungai
27:32
Speaker 1: PFP because I, I do horror then you know, if
27:35
Speaker 1: I move to Sungapapi, very, very fitting, very fitting, very
27:38
Speaker 1: on brand, and it's nice. It's very chill. I can
27:41
Speaker 1: see why people like it, yeah, because where places are creepier, uh,
27:45
Speaker 1: it's quieter, it's, it's got more of the vibes, you
27:48
Speaker 1: know what I mean, but are you OK though if
27:51
Speaker 1: I love that sounded more like a question. OK, I OK?
27:51
Speaker 1: Every night, you
28:05
Speaker 2: know, someone knock your door. Oh no, la, of course
28:05
Speaker 2: not lay that sounds. Can I just say I'm never
28:07
Speaker 2: telling you where I live.
28:10
Speaker 1: Um, I know, I feel like it's, it's really depends
28:13
Speaker 1: on your constitution like if let's say you, you are strong, right,
28:17
Speaker 1: your body, your will is strong, uh, or maybe you're
28:20
Speaker 1: suitable to that house, I think it's, it's OK, uh,
28:23
Speaker 1: but it's more of a curiosity or, um, I, I
28:27
Speaker 1: want to see whether if we could possibly stay at
28:31
Speaker 1: Sungai PLP, but when I looked, when I looked at
28:34
Speaker 1: the prices, I was like, probably not.
28:37
Speaker 1: I think the prices are more scary.
28:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I love how that's the common thread in
28:42
Speaker 2: this episode. Property prices are way more frightening,
28:45
Speaker 1: yeah, um, and also there, there is a, there's a
28:48
Speaker 1: slight chance, there's a slight chance that you, you will get, uh,
28:52
Speaker 1: some haunting from Kaka because the stories does say that
28:55
Speaker 1: there's a strong flower smell, right, which probably Frenchy Penny,
29:00
Speaker 1: correct or not, yeah.
29:01
Speaker 1: Um,
29:02
Speaker 2: I don't think
29:02
Speaker 2: I've ever heard a, a ghost story in Southeast Asia
29:04
Speaker 2: where they say strong flower smell and they meant like
29:06
Speaker 2: some other flower. It's always stop don't the strong
29:10
Speaker 1: bananas chrysanthemum. Oh
29:12
Speaker 2: really? Oh,
29:13
Speaker 1: because
29:13
Speaker 1: it's, it's the flower, the garland,
29:15
Speaker 2: yeah yeah
29:17
Speaker 1: yeah it's the.
29:17
Speaker 1: The one also very, very, uh, particular smell. Yeah, you know,
29:21
Speaker 1: Chinese funeral, they got the flower that they put on
29:24
Speaker 1: the disease like it's usually to give to the family, right?
29:27
Speaker 1: Is it on the frame, sorry, yeah, some is on
29:29
Speaker 1: the frame, some is, uh, they, they give you like a,
29:33
Speaker 1: like condolences kind of thing la. So those also got
29:36
Speaker 1: very strong flower smell, yeah, so if you smell that
29:39
Speaker 1: kind of flower at night also not a good thing.
29:42
Speaker 1: The whole, uh, mentionnet thing, right, uh, RPRP is like
29:46
Speaker 1: the icon. It has to be the mention net beside
29:50
Speaker 1: the RPRP then you, you got the guys because I
29:53
Speaker 1: do see quite a few empty units there. I don't
29:57
Speaker 1: know why.
29:59
Speaker 1: I like to think that it's because of the prices,
30:01
Speaker 1: not because it's haunted. I mean, you can try, try
30:04
Speaker 1: your luck.
30:08
Speaker 1: For I know this area, uh, you knock down the
30:10
Speaker 1: price la. OK, OK, so I mean a random question
30:14
Speaker 1: for you all, like, right, if you were in the
30:17
Speaker 1: position of the couple, right, you saw that, right? What
30:20
Speaker 1: would you do? Would you run
30:21
Speaker 1: away?
30:21
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, no, no, I cannot believe that they
30:24
Speaker 2: waited for a woman to walk past behind them before
30:27
Speaker 2: they ran, because if I walk into a room and
30:30
Speaker 2: I'm
30:31
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that, yeah, because the the article doesn't describe
30:34
Speaker 2: like what other furniture there was in the room. If
30:36
Speaker 2: I walk into the room and I see just a
30:37
Speaker 2: doll and offerings, I'm not waiting for anything else to
30:41
Speaker 2: frighten me. I am just going to turn around and
30:44
Speaker 2: leave very quickly. I won't even let the agent know.
30:47
Speaker 2: I'll just walk out of the house. The agent asked
30:50
Speaker 2: me why you walk out the house, why you never
30:52
Speaker 2: say anything. I was like, You're a terrible agent. I
30:54
Speaker 2: cannot believe you brought me here. We're going to find
30:56
Speaker 2: another agent to help me find a different house than this. I,
30:59
Speaker 2: I wouldn't just run. I would just leave. I wouldn't
31:02
Speaker 2: you
31:02
Speaker 1: leave then he said long text.
31:05
Speaker 1: So sorry, yeah, but I don't no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah,
31:10
Speaker 1: for me, I, I, I would, I would, I will
31:13
Speaker 1: go downstairs if there's a downstairs. I go downstairs. Then
31:17
Speaker 1: I'll ask the agent, so how?
31:19
Speaker 1: How much discount you're gonna give me? How much discount
31:22
Speaker 1: you're
31:23
Speaker 1: gonna give me?
31:23
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I will stay in a place like that,
31:25
Speaker 2: but I think if you, if you're going to give
31:27
Speaker 2: me a discount, right, the discount better be enough that
31:30
Speaker 2: I can afford the best blessings for the house blessings. I,
31:35
Speaker 2: I don't know which spiritual master I have to go to.
31:39
Speaker 2: If I have to go to all of them, I
31:40
Speaker 2: will go to all of them.
31:41
Speaker 2: Y'all better be able to come, bless my house so
31:44
Speaker 2: that it's so clean, no matter which religion you are.
31:48
Speaker 1: OK, in Malay they call it paga paga the house, right,
31:51
Speaker 1: so no spirits can enter. But, but what if the
31:55
Speaker 1: spirits cannot enter, but every now and then you will see.
31:57
Speaker 1: In the in the in the window on your window,
31:59
Speaker 1: you will see the thing floating like hi, hi, how
32:03
Speaker 1: are you? See that
32:03
Speaker 2: that that's what I mean like
32:05
Speaker 1: the thing cannot enter. no, no, no,
32:06
Speaker 2: no, no, as far as I'm concerned, if I can
32:09
Speaker 2: still see you, that, that still affects the property price.
32:12
Speaker 2: I want, I want the blessing right to cover.
32:14
Speaker 2: Everywhere around it. So if I have to pay like
32:18
Speaker 2: spiritual masters, I have to pay like priests or to
32:21
Speaker 2: bless the corridor from the lift all the way to
32:23
Speaker 2: my flat, right, I will do that as well. On
32:25
Speaker 1: the right not worth it, I think that's
32:27
Speaker 2: why I'm saying the, the discount better
32:29
Speaker 2: be by
32:30
Speaker 1: by then it's not a property thing, it's a town
32:31
Speaker 1: council thing the town council, you ask your neighbors to
32:35
Speaker 1: chip in solar, yeah, the corridor. Hey, hey,
32:38
Speaker 2: hey, they, they, they want to, they want to chip in.
32:41
Speaker 2: That's perfectly fine, but as far as I'm concerned.
32:44
Speaker 2: My bare minimum right is I will be able to
32:46
Speaker 2: afford this from the discount by myself because I don't
32:49
Speaker 2: know where neighbors are cheaper so neighbors like I don't
32:50
Speaker 1: care. What if you don't have neighbors or
32:53
Speaker 1: even worse.
32:56
Speaker 1: Even
32:57
Speaker 1: you're the only flat, then all then
33:00
Speaker 2: I have to get a like a package deal. I
33:02
Speaker 2: have to convince all my friends and my family to
33:04
Speaker 2: buy all the other units there so I'm not alone
33:06
Speaker 2: on the floor.
33:07
Speaker 1: Never mind why you don't buy the house.
33:09
Speaker 2: Look, look, at this point I'm gonna address all of
33:12
Speaker 2: y'all out there, OK. Real estate agents, if you're thinking
33:15
Speaker 2: to yourself, this looks like he's gonna buy a new house.
33:17
Speaker 2: I am clearly not your target audience at this point. No, no, no, no.
33:21
Speaker 2: Try Kyle. Kyle apparently a little bit more reasonable when
33:25
Speaker 2: it comes to property. Maybe talk to him
33:26
Speaker 1: as long as you give him discount, Kennedy. must be
33:29
Speaker 1: very good. Then we can talk or no go. Alright,
33:33
Speaker 1: this question is for everyone.
33:35
Speaker 1: If you had a feeling that your friend's flat, uh,
33:38
Speaker 1: was haunted, would you inform them? Yes, I mean, I, I,
33:43
Speaker 1: I was informed. I, I a bit more bastard. I
33:46
Speaker 1: will put them aside, uh, to somewhere that is bright
33:51
Speaker 1: in the day, very far from the house, so they
33:53
Speaker 1: they live in the north, I put them to the central.
33:56
Speaker 1: Then, uh, sit them down and ask them question by
33:59
Speaker 1: question like how we know we as horror storytellers, we
34:02
Speaker 1: will slowly, la, slowly wipe check first day after that.
34:04
Speaker 1: How are your house's go. Then they were like, actually, yeah,
34:08
Speaker 1: then they start once they say actually right then you
34:10
Speaker 1: know you know you know it. Then after that I say, uh,
34:13
Speaker 1: can I adapt this for my podcast.
34:16
Speaker 1: Uh, and second, maybe I enjoy you some spiritual help, la,
34:20
Speaker 1: then you'll go and settle yourself, uh, but I won't
34:22
Speaker 1: get involved for sure because sometimes it's personal, we also
34:25
Speaker 1: don't know. So definitely I would sometimes maybe not the
34:28
Speaker 1: house also it's the person,
34:31
Speaker 2: yeah, exactly, yeah, I won't be so direct. I will
34:33
Speaker 2: say stuff like, oh, so it's a very old flat. Oh,
34:38
Speaker 2: that's super generic. It's super generic, but that's the thing, I, OK,
34:42
Speaker 2: my feeling is touch wood, let's say I.
34:46
Speaker 2: I unlucky enough.
34:48
Speaker 2: To realize that this person's flat is haunted.
34:52
Speaker 2: But they don't know.
34:54
Speaker 2: They've not experienced anything. OK. Why would I tell them,
34:58
Speaker 2: you know, if if if.
35:00
Speaker 2: If whatever is in the flat.
35:03
Speaker 2: Has decided not to disturb them. I'm like, OK lah.
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Speaker 2: Then if you're living peacefully, I'm, I'm not gonna interfere.
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Speaker 2: It's like you said it's not my problem, but,
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Speaker 1: but
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Speaker 2: you need to understand,
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Speaker 1: how would you know that a flat is haunted means
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Speaker 1: that you have seen something in
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Speaker 2: the if I, if I have been unlucky enough to
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Speaker 2: see something in the flat, right, but if they haven't, right,
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Speaker 1: if I, yeah, so you vibe check, ah,
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Speaker 2: I, so I, I will, I will give the most
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Speaker 2: passive aggressive vibe checks. I'll be like, Hey, your, your
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Speaker 2: flat very old,
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Speaker 1: how much you buy.
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Speaker 2: How much you pay for the, the Singaporean? How much
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Speaker 2: you pay for the flat?
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Speaker 1: They got give discount,
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Speaker 2: OK, OK,
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Speaker 1: OK.
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Speaker 2: I'm adding, I'm adding that to my answer.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. That's right.
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Speaker 2: I
35:47
Speaker 2: find out like how much to pay for it's like, Wow,
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Speaker 2: that's actually quite affordable for a place this big, ah,
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Speaker 2: not bad. How can you manage to get a discount?
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Speaker 2: Then we check from there la if they know that
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Speaker 2: the place is haunted, then, OK, la, then there's nothing
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Speaker 2: for me to inform la.
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Speaker 2: But if they don't know, I'm not going to be
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Speaker 2: the one to tell them.
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Speaker 1: But it's quite true. I mean, like if the person
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Speaker 1: the thing doesn't disturb them, then for what for what
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Speaker 1: you tell them? I
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Speaker 2: mean, you, you and I have talked about this before.
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Speaker 2: There's the idea of the house guardians or so.
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Speaker 2: So that's
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Speaker 1: not haunted.
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Speaker 2: That's not haunted, but also if it's a house that
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to know the difference. I am,
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Speaker 2: as you say, blissfully ignorant about this kind of stuff, fair, fair.
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Speaker 2: What I might see might not be a malicious spirit,
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Speaker 2: and there's no sense in me like alarming them if they,
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Speaker 2: if they don't know or if they know better, then
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Speaker 2: I'm just going to be like, OK, I saw something.
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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna put it out on my mind.
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Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna make sure that before I go
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Speaker 2: home I'm going to stop at a coffee shop for
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Speaker 2: my own personal safety and
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Speaker 2: that's it.
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Speaker 1: So you guys believe in that as well. Oh yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: Bong Bong. Well,
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Speaker 2: honestly it's something that I learned from him.
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Speaker 1: I thought, I thought it's only in the Malay community.
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Speaker 1: You guys also believe, OK, I think it's quite Singaporean
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Speaker 1: and Malaysian. We we do it like, yeah, yeah, we
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Speaker 1: don't want to bring back because it really will bring back.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if it's.
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Speaker 1: Like, uh, specific, uh, race thing, I think it's people
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Speaker 1: who go explore, people who explore, you know, right, haunted places, uh, bro,
37:18
Speaker 1: later we go Mamak first, ah, it's always the ma
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Speaker 1: drink drop off there.
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Speaker 2: I'm starting to wonder whether this was, uh, this was
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Speaker 2: a superstition that was started by all the mamma store
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Speaker 2: owners and so that they got,
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Speaker 1: you know, you know,
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Speaker 2: there you go.
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Speaker 2: Excellent
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Speaker 1: marketing,
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Speaker 1: right? Then someone they open 24/7.
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Speaker 2: Exactly the sign in front come Bongs down here.
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Speaker 1: No, you open a called Bongi Bongshui idea, guys, you're welcome.
37:48
Speaker 2: don't give it to them after season three we're gonna
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Speaker 2: do it.
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Speaker 1: Would you tell your friend? Oh? Of course. I mean, like, like,
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Speaker 1: like Wy said, you know, if the thing doesn't disturb them,
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Speaker 1: why would I inform them, you know, means they are
37:58
Speaker 1: fine with it. They are at peace with it and
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Speaker 1: it's their purchase, you know, they spend a lot of
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Speaker 1: money on it.
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Speaker 1: But then if uh the thing disturb them, then obviously
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Speaker 1: I will tell them that uh I think something off
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Speaker 1: with your house you better call someone, you know, to check, check,
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Speaker 1: check on it, goug out your house or something, yeah,
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Speaker 1: even at the expense where the thing might target you.
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Speaker 1: Why you go and tell, no, I don't think they
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Speaker 1: would target me. Why would they target me for being
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Speaker 1: a snitch?
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Speaker 2: Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that was the word, yeah,
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Speaker 2: really, really don't be a
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Speaker 1: snitch during the in the ghost realm like snitches get exactly, exactly.
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Speaker 2: You just get hauntings in this case.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I, OK, I think it depends on
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Speaker 1: the situation, but if let's say my friend maybe has
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Speaker 1: a kid, you know, I probably would do that, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's OK like if as long as the kid is safe, uh,
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Speaker 1: they target me, me, and I, I, I will find
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Speaker 1: my own alternative to, to, to, to fix good people.
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Speaker 2: That's a hero right there. He was willing to sacrifice
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Speaker 2: his own safety for the safety.
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Speaker 2: Child. Alright, so we're gonna start wrapping up the episode. Um,
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Speaker 2: we're almost at the end now, so it's time once
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Speaker 2: again for Kyle to please give us your morbid fact
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Speaker 2: of the
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Speaker 2: day.
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Speaker 1: Between 1952 and 1955, a 10-story block at Upper Pickering
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Speaker 1: became known as the suicide flat because 19 people fell
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Speaker 1: or leapt to their deaths.
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Speaker 1: This moy fact was taken from the book Singapore's Vanished
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Speaker 1: Public Housing Estates by Cole Kim Jay and Eugene Ong.
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Speaker 1: The the flat name uh is a nickname la in
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Speaker 1: Hokkien it's called Chap Lau means 10th floor, because back
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Speaker 1: in the day in the 50s, there were not many
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Speaker 1: high rise buildings, so that was the place where people
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Speaker 1: go in, you know, and uh it was so bad
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Speaker 1: that they had to install iron bars. Yeah, so this
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Speaker 1: one is not, this is a prove not a proven factla,
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Speaker 1: uh but
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Speaker 1: Rumors is that the, you know, like the older flats,
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Speaker 1: they got iron bars and the was started because of that,
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Speaker 1: and the in between the stairs it was started because
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Speaker 1: of that, yeah, so yeah, that's the,
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Speaker 2: I, I can't remember I was reading it from this
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Speaker 2: book as well, but I remember.
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Speaker 2: Early on when they started building flats.
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Speaker 2: They were very particular about varying the heights of flats,
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Speaker 2: so there'll be tall flats like 10 floors, and then
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Speaker 2: there'll be the shorter flats. So you see some a
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Speaker 2: lot of the older the older blocks are, are like
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Speaker 2: maybe 4 stories high. So yeah, yeah, exactly. So apparently
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Speaker 2: the reason for this was that it was a psychological
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Speaker 2: reason because people back then as 1950s, everybody is just
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Speaker 2: used to staying in like, you know, landed property kampongs, everything.
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Speaker 2: The idea of buildings that tall.
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Speaker 2: Like psychologically they couldn't not comprehend it, but it, it
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Speaker 2: seemed so foreign to them. So that's why they had
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Speaker 2: to vary the size of it. I can't remember whether
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Speaker 2: I read it in this book or anything like that,
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Speaker 2: but I, I imagine having a flat that's 10 stories
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Speaker 2: tall in a time when 10 story flats won't.
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Speaker 2: Commonplace that that probably messed up people as well. That
40:55
Speaker 2: probably played a part in it as well.
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