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- 0:08Speaker 1: Terrible advice. Hello, Hello, welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show.
- 0:17Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rob Shooter. It's Wednesday, which means our
- 0:20Speaker 1: dear friend. Donnie meetscham Joint says, hey, Donny, are you there? Hello?
- 0:26Speaker 1: Love Wednesday, So excited to be here. I'm even more excited.
- 0:30Speaker 1: This week is my staycation vacation, but I'm staying home anywhere.
- 0:37Speaker 1: It's because you've got a fancy flat now. You used
- 0:39Speaker 1: to live in a horrible flat. I wanted to get
- 0:41Speaker 1: out of it. You were never home. Now you've got
- 0:44Speaker 1: a lovely home. It makes a difference, having a nice vouch,
- 0:47Speaker 1: a nice place to live. Suddenly you don't want to
- 0:49Speaker 1: go out at night. It's it's a lovely, lovely feeling,
- 0:52Speaker 1: isn't it. I know I'm lucky enough to have an
- 0:54Speaker 1: apartment that I like, and so I do not have
- 0:56Speaker 1: to go out now every single night. We'll enjoy your
- 0:59Speaker 1: week home. Donnie lets jumping to the show. What time
- 1:02Speaker 1: is it? My friends? It is tea times big story
- 1:05Speaker 1: at the top of the show, So Prince William has
- 1:09Speaker 1: decided that moving forward, they're no longer just going to
- 1:12Speaker 1: sit back. As Harry makes claims against the Royal family. So,
- 1:17Speaker 1: if you remember, we've talked about this, the Royal family
- 1:19Speaker 1: used to have a policy for as long as I
- 1:22Speaker 1: can remember, of never complained, never explained, So they never
- 1:28Speaker 1: ever explained. They never complained. But that seems to be
- 1:32Speaker 1: coming to an end as the world eagerly awaits Harry
- 1:37Speaker 1: and Megan's new Netflix docuseriies or It's coming soon. Sources
- 1:42Speaker 1: are saying that Prince William is ready to push back
- 1:45Speaker 1: on any wild claims. So just a bit of background here.
- 1:49Speaker 1: My sources tell me the Palace has not yet seen
- 1:52Speaker 1: this documentary. In fact, they're going to be watching it
- 1:55Speaker 1: real time with the rest of us. I can imagine
- 1:58Speaker 1: them logging onto Netflix. Do you think they share an
- 2:01Speaker 1: account or do you think they all have their own?
- 2:05Speaker 1: Who's larger? Whose password is it? Camilla? What's your password? Child?
- 2:09Speaker 1: What if it's the Queen's pastor they don't know what anymore?
- 2:11Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, because she's passed. They've got to sign up.
- 2:16Speaker 1: They got to watch this show. They gotta watch this show.
- 2:17Speaker 1: But they've decided that whatever Megan and Harry throws at them,
- 2:22Speaker 1: they are going to now fight back. This is a
- 2:25Speaker 1: stark contrast. I can't tell you what a big deal
- 2:28Speaker 1: this is, but I can highlight that when Megan and
- 2:32Speaker 1: Harry did the controversial Oprah interview back in one, it
- 2:35Speaker 1: was that long ago. It took them two days to
- 2:39Speaker 1: respond two days, so they're not used to fighting right back.
- 2:45Speaker 1: But now they've seen the damage of sitting there doing nothing.
- 2:49Speaker 1: I used to be a PR professional before I was
- 2:53Speaker 1: an international gossip columns, thank you very much. And what
- 2:57Speaker 1: I did my PR days we that you have to
- 3:01Speaker 1: respond immediately. In fact, in politics they call it the
- 3:04Speaker 1: war room. You have these rooms set up of media
- 3:08Speaker 1: professionals so that if you take any incoming fire, you
- 3:14Speaker 1: can shoot right back. That is what's happened now. And
- 3:18Speaker 1: the reason it's changed is because the Queen has passed.
- 3:21Speaker 1: The Queen did not like this. It's not her style.
- 3:24Speaker 1: You can't change somebody, can you. After all those years,
- 3:27Speaker 1: she wasn't going to change who she was. But now
- 3:30Speaker 1: that she's no longer around, Williams from a different generation.
- 3:33Speaker 1: And let's remember, if you criticize the family he his father,
- 3:38Speaker 1: or the head of this family, you're criticizing them. This
- 3:41Speaker 1: is the future job for him, this is his career.
- 3:44Speaker 1: This is like going after your work, Donnie, you can
- 3:47Speaker 1: say mean things about me, but if you come after
- 3:49Speaker 1: my podcast, I'll come right back. And so I think
- 3:51Speaker 1: that's what we're seeing here. What do you think about
- 3:54Speaker 1: the change in response. I actually like it. I think
- 3:59Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of people are gonna say bad
- 4:02Speaker 1: things about you. Sometimes you just gotta let it go.
- 4:04Speaker 1: But there's a point where it's like, all right, enough
- 4:07Speaker 1: is enough. I'm going to have to speak up. I
- 4:09Speaker 1: have to fight back. I think there's certain things that
- 4:12Speaker 1: William and Kate and them can let go. But when
- 4:14Speaker 1: it comes to any more shocking claims about any type
- 4:16Speaker 1: of racism based at Little Archie, anything like that, I
- 4:20Speaker 1: think that is when you have to fight back. And
- 4:22Speaker 1: if it's not true, you need to say something because
- 4:25Speaker 1: it looks bad. You have to speak the truth out there.
- 4:28Speaker 1: And I think lots of things that the couple have
- 4:30Speaker 1: said just haven't been true. In the Oprah interview, Megan
- 4:34Speaker 1: said her passport was taken off her when she went
- 4:37Speaker 1: to live with the Royals, and they were like, well,
- 4:38Speaker 1: you went to New York to see your friend Serena
- 4:41Speaker 1: Williams play tennis, and so you had a passport for that.
- 4:44Speaker 1: So it just was not true. A lot of what
- 4:46Speaker 1: they're saying is true, and I really wann Megan and
- 4:49Speaker 1: Harry here. Make sure everything in this documentary is a
- 4:53Speaker 1: hundred percent accurate. Now, your feelings are always accurate, so
- 4:57Speaker 1: I'm not going to ever judge those, but if you're
- 5:00Speaker 1: claiming something happened, or somebody took your passport off you,
- 5:04Speaker 1: or somebody gave you red flowers and they were yellow,
- 5:07Speaker 1: just make sure all the details are absolutely right. Already
- 5:11Speaker 1: there's a controversy because they released a small clip, just
- 5:15Speaker 1: that very short clip from the documentary, and he was
- 5:19Speaker 1: talking about how the press. Harry was talking about how
- 5:22Speaker 1: the press haunded his mom, and then they cut two
- 5:25Speaker 1: photographers stalking who we think is Harry and Megan, but
- 5:30Speaker 1: it actually turns out that photograph of the photographers is
- 5:34Speaker 1: that a Harry Potter Premier. So just make sure this
- 5:38Speaker 1: is a accurate. Your feelings are totally yours, nobody can
- 5:43Speaker 1: question those, but the facts be really careful of because
- 5:46Speaker 1: if you mess up, the whole thing is going to
- 5:49Speaker 1: start to unravel. We should point out to that. Harry
- 5:52Speaker 1: and they're gonna now in New York. They arrived yesterday,
- 5:55Speaker 1: They were spotted getting off their private plane. They headed
- 5:58Speaker 1: into the city. I'm hold, they're staying in the city
- 6:01Speaker 1: for a couple of days, and they're going to be
- 6:03Speaker 1: here in New York, the media capital of the world.
- 6:07Speaker 1: The day that the documentary drops. Not a coincidence. Not
- 6:12Speaker 1: a coincidence. But let's do our pole question of the day.
- 6:16Speaker 1: Prince William is no longer going to sit back as
- 6:19Speaker 1: Harry and Megan makes claims against the royal family. Would
- 6:23Speaker 1: you fight back? I'm not asking you about William or Harry.
- 6:26Speaker 1: I'm asking about you today. Would you fight that if
- 6:30Speaker 1: somebody said something about you that wasn't true? Would you
- 6:35Speaker 1: fight back? Ago votes on our Twitter page at Naughty
- 6:38Speaker 1: Nice Rob. Her facebook page is Naughty Yossip and missuer
- 6:42Speaker 1: to check back to Marow to hear your results. Hey,
- 6:45Speaker 1: Donny Love, what are you working on? You know, we're
- 6:47Speaker 1: still all kind of reeling from the death of Kirstie Alley.
- 6:51Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of you know, her last
- 6:53Speaker 1: final years. There was a few controversial things that she
- 6:56Speaker 1: had said, but we cannot forget she was an amazing actress.
- 7:00Speaker 1: She was brilliant in Hollywood. John Travolta is mourning Christie
- 7:04Speaker 1: Ali sings one of the most special relationships he's ever had.
- 7:08Speaker 1: It was a touching tribute. After news broke Monday that
- 7:11Speaker 1: she had died from cancer, I'm still surprised that she
- 7:13Speaker 1: was able to keep that a secret. I think it
- 7:16Speaker 1: really is actually shocking that somebody's as famous as Christiality
- 7:19Speaker 1: was able to keep a cancer battle secret. But we
- 7:22Speaker 1: always met John Travolta start with her and Luke, who's
- 7:24Speaker 1: talking two sequels that ensued after that, But I just
- 7:28Speaker 1: it goes back. I I tend to I'm trying to
- 7:30Speaker 1: think of her as the brilliant actress from Cheers, and
- 7:33Speaker 1: she was so freaking funny. It Takes Two with the
- 7:36Speaker 1: Olsen Twins is one of my favorite movies ever. It
- 7:38Speaker 1: was really just it was really great. People Magazine on
- 7:41Speaker 1: now reporting that at just seventy one years old, she
- 7:45Speaker 1: died of colon cancer, and they're saying that it was
- 7:49Speaker 1: discovered quite recently. She wasn't aware of this. But now
- 7:53Speaker 1: we're getting into quite a difficult area, So I'm gonna
- 7:56Speaker 1: tread carefully here. There are new reports out saying thing
- 8:00Speaker 1: that Kirsty may have hesitated about getting cancer treatment because
- 8:05Speaker 1: of her Scientology believes she died in Florida. She was
- 8:10Speaker 1: in Florida, and she was very close. Her home was
- 8:13Speaker 1: very close to Scientology headquarters. Now, she is a devouted
- 8:18Speaker 1: scientologist for many, many years, and now some people are
- 8:22Speaker 1: concerned that maybe that might have added to the reasons
- 8:27Speaker 1: of why she's not with us today. Mike Rinder, who's
- 8:31Speaker 1: a famous ex scientologist. He has this amazing blog that
- 8:35Speaker 1: I read, and he said, although Hubbard Hubbard is the
- 8:38Speaker 1: man that created Scientology. Although Hubbard claimed that he could
- 8:42Speaker 1: cure cancer, he could not, and two very prominent scientologists,
- 8:49Speaker 1: Kirsty and Kelly Preston, John Travolta's wife, have both succumbed
- 8:53Speaker 1: to the disease. He went on to say, Mike Grinder,
- 8:57Speaker 1: but the real tragedy is that people leave scientology will
- 9:02Speaker 1: resolve their physical condition. Often scientologists go through auditing. This
- 9:08Speaker 1: is a process that they go through, or even a
- 9:11Speaker 1: chira practor or the latest fads, he added in Mexico,
- 9:16Speaker 1: and all this does is delay resorting to traditional medical treatment.
- 9:22Speaker 1: He said, I fear this is what may have happened
- 9:25Speaker 1: with Kirstie giving the wording of her announcements that her
- 9:29Speaker 1: cancer was only quote recently discovered. There's going to be
- 9:35Speaker 1: a lot more questions that we're going to answer over
- 9:38Speaker 1: the next couple of days. But it is tragic if
- 9:41Speaker 1: this turns out to be true that she delayed treatment
- 9:46Speaker 1: because of her beliefs. It's heartbreaking, DNA heartbreaking, It is
- 9:50Speaker 1: very sad. I don't know about the whole psychology thing.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Is just it's a lot to wrap your head around.
- 9:55Speaker 1: And I just thought when it comes to your body treatment.
- 9:59Speaker 1: But this is a story that's going to be developed
- 10:01Speaker 1: in trust me. You heard it from your uncle Rob
- 10:04Speaker 1: and your uncle Donnie first. This is going to start slowly,
- 10:08Speaker 1: maybe not so slowly, reaching into the mainstream gossip press
- 10:12Speaker 1: sooner or later. Hey, moving along. Another story that we
- 10:16Speaker 1: can update you on is the man that shot Lady
- 10:19Speaker 1: Gaga's dog walker. Remember that it was a while ago.
- 10:24Speaker 1: Now he has finally been sentenced to twenty one years
- 10:29Speaker 1: in prison. Twenty one years so he shot Lady Daggers
- 10:33Speaker 1: dog walker. He stole her French bulldog last year this happened.
- 10:38Speaker 1: He's been sentenced to over two decades behind bars. His
- 10:41Speaker 1: name is James Hammard Jackson. He accepted the plea deal
- 10:46Speaker 1: and listened to the charges that he he had been
- 10:49Speaker 1: charged with attempted murder, conspiracy to commit a robbery, an
- 10:56Speaker 1: assault with the semi automatic fire arm. So when you
- 11:01Speaker 1: add uble that, then you can figure out why this
- 11:05Speaker 1: sentence is the length that it is. I'm happy that
- 11:09Speaker 1: there's been some closure here. Lady Gaga's dog Walker will
- 11:13Speaker 1: never be the same. Really, brave, brave guy who fought
- 11:17Speaker 1: so hard to protect those dogs. He saved one from
- 11:20Speaker 1: being kidnapped, but the other one they got. Finally, Lady
- 11:23Speaker 1: Gaga got that back and justice has been served. Hey Donny,
- 11:27Speaker 1: what's going on at the View? I'm hearing there were
- 11:30Speaker 1: once again seeing drama. Well, the View had been quiet
- 11:34Speaker 1: for a little bit, and now they are back and
- 11:38Speaker 1: they have clashing all over the place as Anna Navarra
- 11:41Speaker 1: and new host Alyssa Farrett Griffin they are sparring where
- 11:46Speaker 1: Alyssa was basically just saying talking about how women in
- 11:50Speaker 1: toxicity in the workplace, and Alyssa goes, We've come a
- 11:53Speaker 1: long way and critiquing some of the male practices that
- 11:56Speaker 1: are not helpful and need to be called out. Women
- 11:58Speaker 1: have made a town of progress, but we can all
- 12:00Speaker 1: so be each other's worst enemies. It's still the case.
- 12:03Speaker 1: And I have to say, some of the worst posses
- 12:05Speaker 1: I've had have been women, Griffin said, to which Anna
- 12:08Speaker 1: o'varo responded, a little cheeky. That's what happens when you
- 12:12Speaker 1: work with Kelly and Conway. I mean she did, she did.
- 12:15Speaker 1: So let's Elisa Fair. Griffin worked in the Trump. She
- 12:18Speaker 1: walked to the Trump for Kelly and so then Alissa,
- 12:22Speaker 1: she didn't like this. She did not, and she clapped
- 12:25Speaker 1: back and she goes, well, I can't really get a
- 12:26Speaker 1: word in without you attacking me, so I wouldn't say
- 12:30Speaker 1: this is a totally different environment of women supporting each other. Well,
- 12:34Speaker 1: little Anna Navarro, she's a little cheeky one, which she
- 12:36Speaker 1: takes a sip of her tea and she goes, oh,
- 12:39Speaker 1: I haven't attacked you yet. This is why we love
- 12:43Speaker 1: the few. I know it. I know it. I have to.
- 12:46Speaker 1: I have to watch it every day because it's live,
- 12:49Speaker 1: so you never quite know what's going to happen and
- 12:51Speaker 1: be because these ladies they just go for it. Do
- 12:56Speaker 1: you think ABC ever tells them to take it down
- 12:58Speaker 1: and not from now? And I think they do. I
- 13:00Speaker 1: think they are living for this and Anna was not wrong.
- 13:04Speaker 1: She did point out something that I think she would
- 13:07Speaker 1: rather not be hearing again. I think a Lissa would
- 13:10Speaker 1: rather not every day here. Alyssa has got a really
- 13:14Speaker 1: difficult position here. I was thinking about this and I
- 13:16Speaker 1: was talking to a friend of mine who works for
- 13:18Speaker 1: The View, and they said Alyssa got the job because
- 13:21Speaker 1: of the fact she worked for the Trump White House.
- 13:24Speaker 1: But at the same time, Alyssa doesn't really want to
- 13:26Speaker 1: talk about that anymore. She wants to move on, and
- 13:29Speaker 1: it's It's very difficult, isn't it. It's like Harry and Megan.
- 13:32Speaker 1: They don't really want to be royals anymore, but that's
- 13:35Speaker 1: the only reason we want to talk to you. So
- 13:38Speaker 1: it's this dilemma between Bethany Frankel's struggles with this constantly.
- 13:43Speaker 1: She really doesn't want to talk about the real house,
- 13:46Speaker 1: but she knows that's the only reason we care about her.
- 13:49Speaker 1: A LISTA. If you're listening lower lower low, I say,
- 13:51Speaker 1: lean into it. You can't pretend that it just didn't exist.
- 13:56Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, own up to it. Even
- 13:58Speaker 1: if you have said to this point, look, that's what
- 14:01Speaker 1: I did because I needed a job at the time.
- 14:04Speaker 1: I will be like, you know what, girl, I respect
- 14:06Speaker 1: that we all need to work. You're going to think
- 14:08Speaker 1: about it the Trump White House. I would go, I'm
- 14:10Speaker 1: gonna politely playing for me, But I didn't understand. Now,
- 14:13Speaker 1: have you had a job, Donnie, that you're not really
- 14:16Speaker 1: that that happy to talk about. Most of my jobs
- 14:20Speaker 1: have been pretty good. I've gotten job offers to where
- 14:22Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think that really suits with who
- 14:25Speaker 1: I am as rights. It's not for me, it's not
- 14:30Speaker 1: it's not from me. Okay, we're gonna take a quick
- 14:33Speaker 1: break and we will be right back. Welcome back to
- 14:37Speaker 1: the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm rob with that dear
- 14:40Speaker 1: friend Donny meets him. Hey, Donnie, let's get to the polls. Yesterday,
- 14:45Speaker 1: so extra yesterday we talked about Amy row Back and
- 14:47Speaker 1: t J Holmes, who have been taken off air by
- 14:51Speaker 1: ABC amid their scandal. We asked should they be fired?
- 14:57Speaker 1: Who let's have a look. Oh my goodness, it's fifty
- 15:01Speaker 1: fifty I think, and I told you first this would happen.
- 15:06Speaker 1: I think Amy is going to be okay, but I
- 15:08Speaker 1: think more information is coming out on t J almost
- 15:12Speaker 1: every day. And it's not that he had a romance
- 15:16Speaker 1: with Amy, who's really his equivalent there financially they're both
- 15:20Speaker 1: co host. I think she earns a little more. It's
- 15:23Speaker 1: the fact that now there are reports that he dated
- 15:26Speaker 1: other people, produces even younger assistance on the show, and
- 15:31Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's going to survive. I think she will.
- 15:34Speaker 1: What do you think? Oh? No, I agree. I don't
- 15:36Speaker 1: think Amy should be fired at all because hopefully this
- 15:40Speaker 1: is their personal life, and I think your personal life
- 15:42Speaker 1: doesn't affect your work life in all cases. If reports
- 15:45Speaker 1: are coming out that he did this, because there is
- 15:48Speaker 1: the thing about men in the workplace, kind of praying
- 15:51Speaker 1: on women women, isn't it. But I do think these
- 15:55Speaker 1: are the stories that are coming out. Donnie, my result
- 15:58Speaker 1: in us not seeing t J back on the show.
- 16:01Speaker 1: Don't forget to vote on today's pole. Go to our
- 16:03Speaker 1: Twitter page at Naughty Nice Robber on Facebook page Naughty Gossip.
- 16:06Speaker 1: But I'm sure it's a shape back to Morolla to
- 16:09Speaker 1: hear your results are Now it's time for a nicest
- 16:14Speaker 1: of the day. The nicest of the day is Adele,
- 16:19Speaker 1: and she's fabulous because she's feeling how she actually met
- 16:23Speaker 1: Lizzo before Lizzo became famous, so a DN Lizz are
- 16:26Speaker 1: a big fans of each other. Turns out the friendship
- 16:28Speaker 1: goes way back. She goes, I met her at a
- 16:30Speaker 1: house party and she said, oh, I'm a singer. Singer,
- 16:34Speaker 1: this is before she was famous, and you know Adele
- 16:37Speaker 1: very cheeky. She goes, well, I'm having a karaoke party
- 16:40Speaker 1: next week if you want to come. You Margine just
- 16:43Speaker 1: being a single working in the business, trying to break
- 16:46Speaker 1: into the business, and a Dal invites you over to
- 16:48Speaker 1: sing karaoke to a karaoke party. And the Dell goes
- 16:52Speaker 1: on to say, though she's seen her from time to time,
- 16:54Speaker 1: they've had really amazing one on one type emotional gifted conversations.
- 16:59Speaker 1: But then this is the part loo cheekiness of the
- 17:01Speaker 1: Because Lisso has a new documentary, I don't h I
- 17:05Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, if you haven't seen, its fabulous. Basically,
- 17:07Speaker 1: she said, I wouldn't do a documented people in the
- 17:09Speaker 1: thirties and forties. Why are you doing a documentary unless
- 17:12Speaker 1: you're Tina Turner who's fabulous and also had a career.
- 17:16Speaker 1: I think, like, you're thirty years old, what have you done?
- 17:18Speaker 1: What are you going to talk about? It's like people
- 17:20Speaker 1: that do their autobiography at twenty two, what are you
- 17:22Speaker 1: talking about? Tell you're so cheeky, but I do love
- 17:25Speaker 1: you and I love to you were kind to Lizzo
- 17:27Speaker 1: even before she was super super famous. How nicest for
- 17:30Speaker 1: the day, and now I'm not used the day. So
- 17:32Speaker 1: we just hinted at this. T J. Holmes has been
- 17:36Speaker 1: cooled to allegedly cheating with several women at a BCS
- 17:42Speaker 1: Page six are reporting that he is in fact a
- 17:44Speaker 1: serial cheetah. The g M A three host is having
- 17:49Speaker 1: an affair and alleged affair with Amy Roeback, but he
- 17:52Speaker 1: also to page six, are alleging had an affair with
- 17:56Speaker 1: a producer, Natasha Singer. Now they are saying even more
- 18:02Speaker 1: people in the building might have been with t J.
- 18:08Speaker 1: Oh This is sloppy, Amy girl. But don't lose your job.
- 18:12Speaker 1: Don't believe. Don't don't don't lose your job. Amy. If
- 18:15Speaker 1: you're listening a lower, lower, low, this isn't good. I
- 18:18Speaker 1: know your head over heels in love. He's as cute
- 18:21Speaker 1: as a buttner. But you've got to believe some of
- 18:24Speaker 1: these rumors. They may trust us. Don't lose your job
- 18:27Speaker 1: over this. Don't do it. Hey, before we go, let's
- 18:30Speaker 1: end with a moment of Rob. You're gonna minutes. We
- 18:33Speaker 1: love to gossip about celebrities, but for a moment, we're
- 18:35Speaker 1: a little bit more deep. Today's quote comes from Jarrett Letto,
- 18:39Speaker 1: and I love it. He said the following quote, try
- 18:42Speaker 1: and fail, but never failed to try. Let me say
- 18:46Speaker 1: that one more times. It's so important try and fail.
- 18:49Speaker 1: You can try, and you can fail, but never ever
- 18:53Speaker 1: fail to try. Keep trying. That's what makes you successful.
- 18:56Speaker 1: That's the secret to success, the ability to just keep trying.
- 19:01Speaker 1: That is it for today. Thank you so much for
- 19:03Speaker 1: listening to the Naughty but Nice with Rob and Donnie Show,
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- 19:16Speaker 1: if you're going to be naughty, you've got to be nice.
- 19:25Speaker 1: It's not even nice with