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- 0:00Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Friday, March fifteenth. I'm your host,
- 0:03Tom Or the Akron game in one hundred and sixty nine days, the
- 0:07game against Michigan in two hundred and sixty days. All Right, we got
- 0:10to talk about the big news that broke on Wednesday. We talked about it
- 0:15on yesterday's episode for about an hour extended live episode to tell me offered leaving
- 0:20Ohio State to go be the running backs coach at Michigan, certainly something that
- 0:25was certainly not expected news. I keep hearing from folks inside of the Woody
- 0:30that, you know, I keep hearing the phrase caught off guard, blindsided.
- 0:33Sounds like this was definitely not something they knew about, which think about
- 0:36it, it makes a lot of sense. So today we're gonna be talking
- 0:38about some of the impacts. Okay, we've processed the news. Now what
- 0:42is it going to mean this year? What is it going to mean beyond,
- 0:44especially in terms of recruiting. I'm going to bring on our buddy Mark
- 0:47Gifler buckey huddle dot com to talk about that. He has a bunch of
- 0:51interesting information he's been sharing with our members at Buckeye Uddle dot com about potential
- 0:55candidates for the next you know, to replaced Tony Alford, but also some
- 0:58thoughts on the recruiting impact and all kind of stuff. That's going to be
- 1:00talking about all that stuff. But I guess Mark, before we get to
- 1:03that, I talked about the fact or a second ago. You know,
- 1:07this this really did catch people off guard. I think, not news you
- 1:11were expecting to hear Wednesday, and that news at any when impact you know,
- 1:12involved with the program was expecting to hear on Wednesday. How big a
- 1:17deal is this just for the twenty twenty four buck Eyes, you know,
- 1:21I don't think it's a huge deal as far as the actual team on the
- 1:26field this fall. This this is a run game that was largely going to
- 1:30be coordinated by Justin Frye and Chip Kelly. They've got two veteran running backs
- 1:36who are going to be drafted in the NFL in the next spring, so
- 1:40it's not like they're trying to develop a young player to kind of be the
- 1:42bellcal back this year. It's bad timing. I think it's really strange and
- 1:49unusual timing. But I don't see this as a huge detriment to what they're
- 1:55trying to accomplish on the field this fall. All right, So now you're
- 2:00going to have a new running backs coach at some point between now and this
- 2:02ball could be very soon. We'll see. But you had been hearing you
- 2:06heard a name that that was I think an intriguing one. We had sort
- 2:09of heard. You know, everyone's initial reaction was Eddie George, and then
- 2:13Tim May talked to Eddie George and sort of swatted that one down. But
- 2:16you're hearing now a different name and certainly an intriguing and potentially exciting one.
- 2:22Yeah, the name Robert Gillespie's from Alabaia is running back coach Alabama started to
- 2:27circulate on shortly after the Alford news came out. I couldn't get anything confirmed
- 2:34there that I'd been any contact there. But Thursday morning I was able to
- 2:38confirm that there's there's been interest expressed on Ohio states end. And from what
- 2:44I was told, it wasn't immediately shot down. I mean, we saw
- 2:46Eddie George immediately come out and say Nope, not interested, not doing it.
- 2:52That's not happened here to my knowledge. I've been told they're somewhat optimistic
- 2:57that that Gillespie's actually listening here, and and I think that's gonna be the
- 3:00guy they you know now at Eddy I mean Eddie, Eddie, George being
- 3:04out of it. I think that'll be the guy who has to say no
- 3:07next and that would obviously be interesting on a lot of fronts, just you
- 3:12know, with his experience at Alabama. Well, and for folks who don't
- 3:15know him, I mean he is you know, every everyone if you did,
- 3:19you did not work for Nick Saban without being a pretty darn good recruiter,
- 3:22any pretty darn good developer. So that in and of itself is a
- 3:25you know, two thumbs up kind of recommendation, even before you dive into
- 3:30anything. But Gillespie himself, I mean he has he has been a big
- 3:34part of that recruiting operation down there for a while, hasn't he. Yeah,
- 3:37he's been there. I believe this would be his fifth year he's so
- 3:40he's been He's been a part of a lot of their their success running the
- 3:44football with with recruiting five star running backs, top one hundred type running backs,
- 3:49very well respected in the business. And I think the the initial thought
- 3:53was, well, you know, Alabama to Ohio State, that's you know
- 3:55it's kind of a would be a lateral move, but you know the Kalin
- 4:00de Boor things interesting. Is Washington or is Alabama going to run the ball
- 4:05as much as they have been with Klein to Boor now coming from Washington and
- 4:10the run game maybe not being as big of a piece of the puzzle there
- 4:13as it has been at Alabama. And then obviously it has to be enticing.
- 4:17I would think, not that Alabama doesn't have good running backs, but
- 4:19would have to be enticing. I would think to work with Quinn, Shawn
- 4:23Judkins and Trevion Henderson, that combination this year probably the best Tanama backs in
- 4:28the country. So there's at least one name to really keep an eye on
- 4:31moving forward, we will probably be talking about other names on the huddle board
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- 4:46you can if you're interested in taking a little bit of a deeper dive on
- 4:47that, you can do that at bucke Huddle dot com. So now let's
- 4:51move on to really the heart of today's show, which is recruiting. Mark
- 4:55of course, is our recruiting guy at bucke Huddle dot com, so of
- 4:58course we're having him on the talk recruiting and really specifically the recruiting impact here
- 5:02because you're obviously you know, you mentioned the timing's not great in terms of
- 5:05the twenty twenty four season. Its timing also not great for the twenty twenty
- 5:10five recruiting cycle because now you've got you know, they were planning on taking
- 5:13probably two running backs at least in this class, and these are guys who
- 5:17have been building relationships with Tony Alford, and now Tony Alfred is you know,
- 5:21about one hundred and eighty or two hundred miles up the road in ann
- 5:24Arbor instead of being in Columbus. So you know, this is not you
- 5:28know, recruiting has not always been great under Alfred. They have had some
- 5:31successes, and they've had a couple pretty big bad misses the last couple of
- 5:35cycles as well. So how much do you think this impacts Ohio State.
- 5:42Let's start with the twenty twenty five targets at the running back. Yeah,
- 5:46and obviously that's you know, some of this is going to depend on who
- 5:48they hire for. For Byron Lewis out of South Florida, who I briefly
- 5:55spoke to yesterday, he said he didn't really want to dive into it too
- 5:59much. He hadn't really talked to anyone at Ohio State to kind of see
- 6:03where things were going. I think that one's gonna sting a bit now.
- 6:08Byron's got some buddies up in Columbus already. If you know former teammate Brandon
- 6:13Innis, who's some bunch of South Florida guys he's pretty close with. So
- 6:16I think they'll have a chance to regroup, just because I don't see Byron
- 6:20committing anywhere soon, and this will be a long, probably a November December
- 6:24kind of thing with him, So I think immediately it's gonna sting a little
- 6:28bit there. I think it stings immediately With Jordan Davison. Here's the interesting
- 6:32thing though, If they are able to get Gillespie, Alabama is among Davison's
- 6:38probably top three or four schools, that would probably be the one guy that
- 6:44could I think would save this for Ohio State. When we talk about Jordan
- 6:46Davison, I think if they don't get Gillespie, if it's someone that Davison
- 6:51maybe doesn't have much of a relationship with, that could get difficult. Texas
- 6:55obviously a huge competitor there Oregon and Alabama, so that's going to be I
- 7:00think the most interesting one is Jordan Davison based on who they hire with Lewis
- 7:06obviously having a great relationship with Alford, but also kind of having his guys
- 7:11up there in Columbus already, so maybe they can mitigate that a little bit.
- 7:15And the en State guys get interesting because it's been kind of the thought
- 7:19process that they're not going to get both of the Inn State guys. They're
- 7:23not going to take both of the Inn State guys, assuming they could get
- 7:27a Jordan Davison. Do they have to go back and try and get both
- 7:31in state guys? Does this take them out of the picture for an in
- 7:34state guy? Does this put him in better position for an in state guy?
- 7:39My personal opinion is that it hurts for Marquise Davis and helps for Bo
- 7:43Jackson. But we will see. I mean, Bo Jackson's supposed to be
- 7:47on campus on March thirtieth. Obviously, Jordan Davison is supposed to be on
- 7:50campus here twenty seventh through April second, but Jordan told me they're still up
- 7:55in the air on that now. With the Alford News, I think they
- 7:57want to digest this first, so stay tuned on that one. So I
- 8:01think there's a lot of different ways this could go depending on who they hire.
- 8:03But I think again, I think the actual person they hire will impact
- 8:07Jordan Davison the most, and I think from Ohio State's perspective, the new
- 8:13guy will need to come in and evaluate the end State backs and decide what
- 8:16direction they're kind of going to move with the Ohio guys. All right,
- 8:22So that's the twenty twenty five recruiting impact. There one other thing I did
- 8:26want to ask you about. Everyone loves to play Instagram detective, so let's
- 8:31talk about James. People's a little bit. There were people freaking out that
- 8:33James Bills had removed some reference to Ohio State on his Instagram bio and had
- 8:37followed Michigan football on Instagram. What's your sense there? I mean, I
- 8:43kind of get the sense that this is an eighteen year old who's pretty far
- 8:46from home, and you know, just kind of got blindsided by something along
- 8:50with everyone else around him, And I wouldn't necessarily press the panic button just
- 8:54yet. Transfer portal is not open. You know, the portal is not
- 8:56open if your position coach leaves. That's a coach thing. So James People
- 9:01is going to be at Ohio State at least through the end of spring football.
- 9:03Do you have any sense, whether People's or anyone else among the current
- 9:07running backs, whether this news might really change the picture for them any of
- 9:11that. So, all that I've been told so far is that this won't
- 9:18impact Henderson and Judkins. There were several reasons obviously offered was a big part
- 9:22of getting Trayvon Henderson here out of high school. But at this point in
- 9:26Travon Henderson's career, you know, he's playing for national championship, He's playing
- 9:31this his money year. He's got a good thing going right now. Quin
- 9:37Shawn Judkins reached out to Ohio State to transfer there. So I just none
- 9:43of that would make any sense based on anything I've heard. So I think
- 9:46they're safe on that. I don't think this impacts This has not been told
- 9:52me, but I just know that it's you know, Dallan Hayden. I
- 9:56don't expect will leave over this. In fact, this may help Dallan.
- 10:00I think Dallan's been a little frustrated with playing time that maybe a lot of
- 10:05people feel he maybe had earned the last couple of years, and that Alfred
- 10:09was a big part of deciding that. So I don't think this hurts them
- 10:11from the outside looking in on Hayden. This shouldn't hurt them on Hayden.
- 10:16You're right, People's is the guy you got to look at right now,
- 10:18Cleveland area guy initially, but you know, move to San Antonio. You
- 10:26know, it doesn't it doesn't feel to me like they'll lose him. But
- 10:31it is one of those things where, yes, you build a relationship with
- 10:35Tony Alfred, you're gonna play for Tony Alfred. You're coming all the way
- 10:37from San Antonio to Columbus and you get there and you're already kind of going
- 10:41through it as a freshman, because every true freshman right now is like,
- 10:43oh my gosh, what I get myself into. And your coach leaves.
- 10:48I would imagine that's very shocking to lose your coach a week in the spring
- 10:54ball. I would imagine it's very shocking. Cooler heads, I would think
- 10:58we'll prevail here, but that that would be the one I guess I would
- 11:00keep the closest eye on here the next month or two. But again,
- 11:03we'll see you they bring in, all right, Well, we will see
- 11:07who they bring in. We will be talking about the names that we're hearing
- 11:11and the guys, you know, the people we're hearing connection with this job.
- 11:13I've heard the name of a different former Ohio State running back in connection
- 11:18with this job. We'll be talking about that on the huddle board as well.
- 11:20So lots of stuff to talk about. There, lots of stuff to
- 11:22talk about with the recruiting piece of things. It is, as Mark said,
- 11:26there's he talked about a couple of guys coming in for visits, but
- 11:28there are a lot of businits coming up. This is a very busy time
- 11:31of year for visits. As the Buckeyes are in spring football. They will
- 11:35be back on the field next week minus Tony Alford, but with all the
- 11:37guys that we're there last week as far as we know, as far as
- 11:41players and all of that kind of stuff. So there's gonna be plenty to
- 11:45talk about next week, Plenty to talk about all spring long. At Buckey
- 11:48Huddle dot com. We hope you will join us there, Donnie, Kevin
- 11:50and I covering the team, mark on recruiting our whole team of exes,
- 11:52and those gurus making you a smarter football fan all at Buckey Huddle dot com
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- 12:05us there for all of that and much much more. That'll do it for
- 12:09today. Thank you guys all for joining us. Have a great day.
- 12:11We'll talk to you tomorrow.