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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, September 5 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football and he should
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  Speaker 1: be over ten thousand yard and congratulations to the great
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  Speaker 1: Fred Taylor. It is Thursday, September five. This is Jaguar's
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour. And now that guy who's living in his
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  Speaker 1: own personal cone of uncertainty, Jane Peace Shadrack thirty seven
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  Speaker 1: years and running. Yes, welcome in j P. Shadrick. That
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  Speaker 1: might have been one of Joe's best. No, let's not
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  Speaker 1: give him too much for good. Now, that was good.
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  Speaker 1: That was that was deep. That's been a proposed. That's
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  Speaker 1: Jeff flagerman TONI was suddenly on Certati with us. Here
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  Speaker 1: we are on Jaguars Happy Hour on a Thursday. It's
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  Speaker 1: week one, real football coming up, finally good. I did
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  Speaker 1: a bunch, you know, interviews this week talking about the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs game with Kansas City UH media, and each time
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  Speaker 1: I did it, I was like, at least we're talking
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  Speaker 1: real football now, Like we're talking about that game that matters,
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to watching the Packers and the Bears to night,
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  Speaker 1: a game that matters, and all the nonsense of how
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  Speaker 1: much they practice, didn't practice, how much they play, didn't play,
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  Speaker 1: it all off the door. Now it's all about results
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  Speaker 1: to win games. Now, it's about ws. Now. Do you
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  Speaker 1: remember your first opening day? You go to that? Seriously,
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  Speaker 1: I think you can take a name tag off. We
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  Speaker 1: all know who you are. Okay, well, you know I'm
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  Speaker 1: new to the building now, it's been a while. It's
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  Speaker 1: been twenty years. You know I'm coming into I didn't
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  Speaker 1: even notice that. No problem. I love it. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up. You should he to cheese Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: Previous Jaguars offense going to look like the Chiefs have speed.
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  Speaker 1: The Jaguars defense knows that we'll get the injury report.
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  Speaker 1: We go around the league as well as to get
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  Speaker 1: two in this hour. The Doug Brown Show comes up
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  Speaker 1: at five o'clock. We'll hear from the head coach as well.
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  Speaker 1: The Jacks just lost to practice day. They were back
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  Speaker 1: at it today though after Hurricane Dorian came through. John
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  Speaker 1: d Philippo, the offensive coordinator, spoke with the Jaguars media
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  Speaker 1: just a little bit ago, and there are questions of
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  Speaker 1: what this offense is going to look like and how
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  Speaker 1: do they score points. It seems like they're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to against the Chiefs. Our job as an offense is
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  Speaker 1: to go and score at least one more point than
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  Speaker 1: the other team. And however we have to do that,
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  Speaker 1: we're prepared to do that, whether it be throwing a bunch,
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  Speaker 1: whether it be running a bunch, whether it be you know,
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  Speaker 1: ball control offense. I mean, we've talked about all those
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  Speaker 1: situations as a staff going into this game. So um,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna be at least we're prepared for, uh pretty
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  Speaker 1: much hopefully whatever type of game it turns into on Sunday. Alright, Fellas,
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  Speaker 1: what is John d Philippo have of his sleep? Because
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  Speaker 1: he didn't say much there. He looks like a football coach,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't he know, he's got the kind of the no
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  Speaker 1: I know, but he's got the got the little bridge
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  Speaker 1: across the nose kind of look cut looking thing and
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  Speaker 1: like he's been head button ball players out there on
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  Speaker 1: the practice field. But I noticed that. Yeah, anyway, that's great,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. What he said. Nothing, And you can't wait
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  Speaker 1: till you get into the game to decide what type
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  Speaker 1: of game plan you want to have. And my hope
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  Speaker 1: is that offensive we're gonna dictate what we want and
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a coordinated effort between obviously Doug Morone,
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  Speaker 1: Todd wash and John D. Philippo and say, listen, are
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  Speaker 1: we gonna play No, are we gonna play ball control football?
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  Speaker 1: And you're taking a new coordinator with new pieces, are
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  Speaker 1: gonna dictate anything to anybody? But my point is, Jeff,
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  Speaker 1: you can't go into the game saying, well, we'll see
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  Speaker 1: if we need to be ball control, if we need
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  Speaker 1: to throw it, we need to run. My whole point is,
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  Speaker 1: like you should have a game plan like we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: throw it, throw it, like we're going in and we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna play great defense, field position football, and we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: run the ball to try to keep the Homes on
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  Speaker 1: the sideline. Well, I think our best offense maybe our
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  Speaker 1: best defense, be quite honest with but we control with
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  Speaker 1: the clock converted on third downs and run the ball,
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  Speaker 1: play action, take our shots here and there, keep Patrick
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  Speaker 1: Mahomes on the sideline, you know, limit him to play.
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  Speaker 1: He's a big playability. I think that gives us the
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  Speaker 1: best possibility and to win football. And we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: about this as a pregame and all Sunday, but the
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  Speaker 1: key to this game for me, it's third down, red zone.
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  Speaker 1: They were the best third down offense. We were above
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  Speaker 1: average defensively out there down we were like number eight.
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  Speaker 1: We were the worst third down average, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. But we weren't the best. They were the best. Offensively.
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  Speaker 1: We were thirty first or something in third down conversion.
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  Speaker 1: We're awful. So we have to flip that. We need
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  Speaker 1: to be We need to get them off the field.
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  Speaker 1: We need to stay on the field. And then the
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  Speaker 1: exact same thing. They were number one red zone offense.
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  Speaker 1: We gotta keep, we gotta force field goals and we
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  Speaker 1: gotta convert. I mean, that's where this game is gonna
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  Speaker 1: come down to. Well, stay on the field and finished drives.
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  Speaker 1: We have to get them off the field and force
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  Speaker 1: field goals. Here here's the funny thing. You come up
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  Speaker 1: with all these ways to win, and then there's always
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  Speaker 1: another way that you can win. I mean, for example too,
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  Speaker 1: and we talked about this, I think uh last week
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  Speaker 1: and that uh and Leon you probably remember the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: go down to Houston for the opener in seventeen. Look,
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  Speaker 1: we weren't overly optimistic about the Jaguars chances in that
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  Speaker 1: game at all. With J. J. Watt clowney stuff happening
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  Speaker 1: I mean and then uh, and then all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden it it turned into taking the Texans out to
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  Speaker 1: the whooping shed. Yeah, but Jeff, and but did we
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  Speaker 1: expect a game like that? I'm there, I agree with that,
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  Speaker 1: So you never know what. But they went into that
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  Speaker 1: game with the game plan that they're gonna run the ball,
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  Speaker 1: pound it, not asked Blake to do too much and
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  Speaker 1: play great defense. That was their game plan going. I'm
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  Speaker 1: only responding with on the Filipo said, I don't I
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  Speaker 1: understand why he's saying nothing. That's what coaches do this
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  Speaker 1: time of year. I don't believe that they don't have
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  Speaker 1: an idea of what type of game they He's got
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  Speaker 1: a plan. That's my whole point. You don't just show
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  Speaker 1: up and say, well we might ball control. We'll see
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  Speaker 1: what the game is doing, and they will throw it.
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  Speaker 1: They will. That movie JP, JP, the the baseball movie
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  Speaker 1: where the guys teaching them how to learn all the lines. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you need to know your cliches. Yeah, he do whatever
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  Speaker 1: I can to help. The sounds like right there, right, well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll do whatever we can. Is an offense. That's good.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was good, right at some point, at
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  Speaker 1: some point though down the line in the season, this
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  Speaker 1: offense is going to have some kind of identity though
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  Speaker 1: right that there, we don't know what it is though,
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  Speaker 1: right you? At what point will you start? Okay, these
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  Speaker 1: guys are really a running offense. Okay, these guys do
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  Speaker 1: certain things in the past game. You won't know that
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  Speaker 1: Week one, you'll know that like five or six. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we absolutely saw none of at this preseason, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so we saw nothing. We saw nothing this preset, so
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  Speaker 1: we don't really know what kind of offense is going
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  Speaker 1: to be. You know what, We're gonna run the ball,
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna play action, We're gonna take our shots down
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  Speaker 1: the field. You know who's going to emerge as to
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  Speaker 1: go to wide receiver. Is Lena gonna stay healthy? Is
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  Speaker 1: he gonna pound the rock? His offensive line's gonna stay healthy,
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  Speaker 1: he can get after. I mean, all those components play
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  Speaker 1: into this game and how we're going to be able
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  Speaker 1: to win on Sunday. So we didn't see much of
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  Speaker 1: this preseason because what saw one quarter is this is
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  Speaker 1: just the most unknowns on one side of the ball
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  Speaker 1: that you guys remember in recent history with the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: football team. Outside Yeah, I mean on the offensive side
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  Speaker 1: of the ball. You think about some of the variables
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  Speaker 1: are unknowns on this offensive side of the ball, and
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  Speaker 1: it might be the most that it's ever seen. Because
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  Speaker 1: even seventeen, with Jeff's talking about we thought they were
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  Speaker 1: gonna be We knew what they wanted to do. We
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  Speaker 1: knew they wanted to run the ball. We knew they
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  Speaker 1: wanted to a great defense, stuff and protect, but we
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  Speaker 1: didn't have any idea what to expect from the standpoint
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  Speaker 1: could they do it, because we saw none of it
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  Speaker 1: in the preseason, even though they played a lot in
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  Speaker 1: the preseason because they weren't very good. So that's where
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  Speaker 1: the shock was. It's not so much it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a shock whatever they do. We just don't know what
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna do. It's just gonna be like, Okay, this
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  Speaker 1: is what we can expect. Now now we we think
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  Speaker 1: we have ideas of what they mean. For what I
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  Speaker 1: was trying to figure that out today. They want to
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  Speaker 1: run a ball with Leonard four Neture. I mean that
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  Speaker 1: that they made that very clear. Even day that they
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  Speaker 1: signed Nick Foles, they were talking about they still want
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  Speaker 1: to run football. And from watching them in practice and
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  Speaker 1: training camp, how many times do we see wide receivers
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  Speaker 1: on vertical routes of deep balls A ton in practice? Now,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't seen it in games A lot. We've seen
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  Speaker 1: the routes, but we never seen the ball go to
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  Speaker 1: a deep guy a couple of times. I think Minshew
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  Speaker 1: through it, but I mean Nick Foles had one opportunity
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  Speaker 1: he needed to choose to throw it. I mean, so
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  Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a vertical element to it.
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  Speaker 1: But here here's the thing. We're using all the terms
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  Speaker 1: think or maybe or maybe they might do this, I
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  Speaker 1: mean that we don't know. And that's that's the intriguing
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  Speaker 1: thing about this game. Defensively, well, well, these two teams
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  Speaker 1: played last year, of course, and the Jaguars defense had
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  Speaker 1: one of the better days against the Chiefs offense of
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  Speaker 1: the whole league last year. Todd Wash defensive coordinator day said, well,
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  Speaker 1: that's a little different year. We we we played hard. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I thought we executed, but h as you talked to
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  Speaker 1: our unit, you know, we met again this morning and um,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't good enough. Um, if we don't win the
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  Speaker 1: football game, that it's not good enough. And that's the
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  Speaker 1: mentality in the room. So um, last year was last year. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they got some different players, obviously, some new additions.
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  Speaker 1: You know, obviously we got some new players and some
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  Speaker 1: guys playing in different spots than they did a year ago.
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  Speaker 1: So it's gonna be heck with challenge for us defensively,
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  Speaker 1: we're getting to the cliche season. It is here. But
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  Speaker 1: but how much do you look back to last year's
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  Speaker 1: before wait minute, it was he just saying that they
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  Speaker 1: played well against Kansas City, allowed twenty three points. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I don't get by the way that on a team
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  Speaker 1: that average thirty five. Okay, I would say, yes, they
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  Speaker 1: played well. I get that, and they're the only team
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  Speaker 1: that did not allow Patrick Wilms a touchdown pass at
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  Speaker 1: the Depicts and at sixty passer rating for the league's
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  Speaker 1: m v P. I thought they played well. I thought
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  Speaker 1: they played solid, but at the beginning of the game,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't start out well and not finished well. It
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  Speaker 1: was nothing and they turned them over in there in
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars had a chance to make a thirteen seven game.
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  Speaker 1: The start of the game was not very good. By
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  Speaker 1: the defense doesn't doesn't have it. It wasn't a good start.
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  Speaker 1: But defensively defensively, you expected more out of them in
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  Speaker 1: that game. I did well, okay, But Jeff, if I
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  Speaker 1: were to tell you that they're gonna hold the Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: too under, don't don't care what it was as far
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  Speaker 1: as I'm turning over. Does it take to win more
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  Speaker 1: or less points than the opponent? I mean, well, Todd
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  Speaker 1: just said that. But when you get thing out of
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  Speaker 1: your offense and not only nothing, they hurt you by
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  Speaker 1: giving up points. I mean it's hard. I thought the
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  Speaker 1: defense played fine. The defense, I'll say this was it
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  Speaker 1: their best effort? No, no, But did they play winning
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  Speaker 1: football that day? They played better than anyone else in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL last year at the Patrick Mahomes anybody. It's
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  Speaker 1: a fact. Yeah, it's a fact. But it wasn't good
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  Speaker 1: enough to win. I just the way it started. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't good. Start. When you go on the road and
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  Speaker 1: you give up, you know, you're down thirteen and nothing
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  Speaker 1: to start a game out or whatever it was it
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  Speaker 1: started that ball game. I mean, that's not the way
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  Speaker 1: you want to start that. That's true. They did go
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  Speaker 1: down for a series of the score and then the
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  Speaker 1: offense turns the ball over three and out turn the
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  Speaker 1: ball over the kick a field goal, offense gets the
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  Speaker 1: ball again, interception, kick a field goe. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: a defense held in the six points because the offensive
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  Speaker 1: turned over and the offense does anything, it's it's a
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  Speaker 1: tie game going at halftime where they're down by three.
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  Speaker 1: If they do anything, if they trip when first and
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  Speaker 1: goal and the end zone, they I mean, honestly, just
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  Speaker 1: don't throw it to Chris Jones on the screen. That's
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  Speaker 1: a lot to ask right there. I mean interceptions by
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  Speaker 1: the defense they play, they played well, they played, but
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  Speaker 1: you still got the hell okay, but if you but
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  Speaker 1: I guess the question is how different is this offense
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  Speaker 1: this year is supposed to last year? They have some
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  Speaker 1: new pieces over there, and he ain't they're gonna be better.
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  Speaker 1: They got they got some more speed because they got
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  Speaker 1: Hardman in the draft. The Georgia wide receiver, good player,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know if there was good in the
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  Speaker 1: running game. I mean, that's a great Their offense didn't
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  Speaker 1: fall off at all last year. If you look at
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  Speaker 1: the numbers when Davy Williams became the running back and
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  Speaker 1: they gut uh, Like I say, McCoy, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how much he has left. The bottom line is
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  Speaker 1: this offense revolves around one guy and that's Patrick Mahomans
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  Speaker 1: in the passing game of Tyreek Hills quarterback in the game.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's that's what gets it done. And I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you right now, wells Jeff this, Jeff, I told
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  Speaker 1: you today that you're gonna hold my homes the zero touchdowns,
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  Speaker 1: two picks rating. Would you take that as a defense? Absolutely? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's what they did. If they can get that kind
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  Speaker 1: of effort again, they're gonna win the football game because
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  Speaker 1: I think they have an offense. Yeah, that's that's the difference.
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  Speaker 1: I think because now you have an offense that well
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  Speaker 1: you hope you have an offense. We think they have hope.
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  Speaker 1: We were talking about this the other week, the the
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  Speaker 1: on the offensive side against to go back to that
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  Speaker 1: real quick um and we'll break this down a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more. How do they score thirty points on offense?
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  Speaker 1: Who the Jaguars don't That's what that was what we
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  Speaker 1: talked about the other night. I said, if they score thirty,
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  Speaker 1: they're winning the game. I think they need I think
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  Speaker 1: they win twenty four. If they scored twenty four, I
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  Speaker 1: think they win the football game most likely. I think
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  Speaker 1: that this defense holdings holds the Chiefs to seven team
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  Speaker 1: type of points if they play well, would I expect
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  Speaker 1: them to do. I think this defense is better than
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  Speaker 1: they were last year. If way more speed in the
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  Speaker 1: secondary at the safety position Josh Allen is in addition,
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna create havoc for them now Pat Rushing the
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  Speaker 1: pastor Miles Jackson another year. I mean, the one thing
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  Speaker 1: you've lost is Telvin Smith, who wasn't playing great. He's
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  Speaker 1: playing solid FOOTBA last year, but not great. It's the
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  Speaker 1: big unknown for me is Quincy Williams at will I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's the and if I'm if I'm Andy Reid, I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to get to and you watched I was watching
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  Speaker 1: the San Francisco tape today, guys, and they're gonna match
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  Speaker 1: Damian Williams against Quincy Williams in the passing game, and
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna match try to get Kelsey on Quincy Williams rookie,
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, that's where I'm concerned with. I'm concerned
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  Speaker 1: with Quincy Williams and Rodney Harrison with Kelsey down the
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  Speaker 1: middle or finding spots in the zone because there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of inexperience at the linebacker position outside the Miles
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  Speaker 1: Jack and he's gonna have his hands full because you
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  Speaker 1: don't have Damian Williams and Lashawn McCoy. And he's got
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  Speaker 1: open field tackles and then the sets in the linements
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  Speaker 1: with the running basketball to be But Kelsey, he know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he can go vertical or he can find
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  Speaker 1: the spots in his zone. And with the inexperience that
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  Speaker 1: we have a linebacker and the inexperience that we have
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  Speaker 1: at the safety position, that could be a big concerned.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're more safety position. Yeah, you can say
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  Speaker 1: there are more athletic, but I mean, look, the reality
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  Speaker 1: is is that you lost arguably the best safety in
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  Speaker 1: the league and covering tight ends. I wouldn't go that far,
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  Speaker 1: but he was good. Who's better name me a safety
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  Speaker 1: in the league that was better than two Shaun Gibson
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  Speaker 1: against Kelsey, I didn't break well. Kelsey had over hundred yards.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember that, Gibson, but when
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  Speaker 1: Sun was covering five five one only average twenty yards
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  Speaker 1: of catch. When he was covering Kelsey, he did a
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  Speaker 1: great job. So Kelsey was shut down with the Gibson
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  Speaker 1: was on it. But good job. He did a good
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  Speaker 1: job all air all the tight ends in the league
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  Speaker 1: last year. Just because he has a hundred yards doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mean it was all on Gibson. I didn't say that. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's what you're implying. But you're acting like if Gibson
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  Speaker 1: was like the best safety in the NFL. Did you
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  Speaker 1: not just say I don't think he was the best
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  Speaker 1: safety the NFL like you do. Okay, I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 1: is that if the numbers don't lie, when when you
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  Speaker 1: look at Gibson, sure you said that Sean Gibson is
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  Speaker 1: the best safety in football last year arguably covered tight end. Jess,
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  Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, and I were always thought that that
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  Speaker 1: should be, because that's what you practice and that's what
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  Speaker 1: Coming in here with the heat is an issue. And
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  Speaker 1: I guess the heat wasn't a huge factor in that game.
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  Speaker 1: He's a factor, but it's not the deciding fact. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it gives you an advantage, but I wonder how much
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  Speaker 1: of an advantage because it's not like they played games
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  Speaker 1: in the heat this year because of no preseason they
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  Speaker 1: practice and the heat they did have that one week
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  Speaker 1: where it's pretty hot, they practiced, And so how much
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  Speaker 1: of it is is it really how much is it
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  Speaker 1: really an advantage? Now? I used to think it was
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  Speaker 1: an advantage as well, Jeff. But we were practicing twice
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  Speaker 1: a day in it, playing all free season in it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we got we had a lot of reps
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  Speaker 1: in it. And so somebody ask you guys this from
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  Speaker 1: an offensive standpoint, because obviously Hurricane Dorian affected I think
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the schedule for the Jaguarson They obviously they didn't even
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: start practicing until today. Tony and Leon, If you guys
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: were to miss a typical m season Wednesday of game preparation,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: how does that affect you, guys from a game plan standpoint?
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  Speaker 1: Does it limit you on what you would like to
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  Speaker 1: do well? When when Tony and I played Wednesday was
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: when mostly installment was done on Wednesday, your most physical
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: practice when you did most of the inside run, your
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: middle drill, your blitz drill, all the team period stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So that was essential to get that Wednesday practicing because
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: of the offense went into as far as installments go.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: So we you didn't want to miss Wednesdays because when
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Tuesday Thursday you tapered off a little bit Frida as
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: you were, you know, walk through or whatever. So back
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  Speaker 1: in that day, I think that if you missed the
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Wednesday would be essential, you know, it would be definitely.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say essential, but it would be hinder the
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  Speaker 1: offense because you need that whinnsity to get more. The
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: only the only thing I disagree. For the most part,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I agree. But here's the difference. One is, they had
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: all they prepared, they started prepping for Kansas City week four,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: the preseason, they're working, They're work in Kansas City, so
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: they've got a plenty of work on Kansas City. UM
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Number two, the more veteran, the less it would affect.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Like quite honestly, the second or third year in this offense,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think Leon and I would have missed a
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  Speaker 1: beat if we didn't practice on Wednesday, because we know
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the offense. It's the same offense. It's the same thing.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Especially what we did. It's like, hey, go block the
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: two ends. We're not doing anything, I mean at that point.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: So it's with a younger team, I think it matters. Um,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: what about a team that may not be necessarily younger,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: but newer that's what. That's what when I say younger,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: younger experience. As far as this offense, I think it
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: will be bounced out where it's not gonna be a
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: big deal, only because they prepped all Week four of
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the preseason. They weren't prepping for the game. They weren't
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: even thinking about that game. None of the stars were playing,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the staff and everyone was getting ready for Kansas City.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: So I don't think it's the end of the world.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: It's not, well, it's not the perfect world situation, but
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's good. You don't think no, no, no,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: But but you know, as far as the offensive line go,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking that you know, the inexperience that we have.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: You know, we got Cam Robertson who's coming back from
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: an injury, and you got you want to tell that
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: right tackle, you know, inexperience right tackle. Maybe we'll Richard
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: to the right guard and will rich the right guard.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: You you want that. You don't want them to miss
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the opportunity from reps, you know, because what you want
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: to what's going to happen on Wednesday, is that your
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: most physical day would be on Wednesday, so you you
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: actually a game planning on how you're going to play
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: on Sunday on Wednesday because you're in full gear, you're
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: in full pass and all that. So what the experienced
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: offensive line. I'm a little bit concerned that they missed
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: that day because you know they can get that practice fair.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: It's just just interesting because i mean, typically for to
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: get people an idea, Wednesday in season, that's your majority
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: of your install of your of your your core of
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: your offense. And they did come in on Monday, they
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: had a walk you kind of get a free day.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: My guess is knowing that they're gonna miss Wednesday, they
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: probably did install as far as the mental aspect of
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: it on Monday and walk through because they knew they
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: were going to miss this day. That's my guest. Wednesday's
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: typically your course. You probably got a little bit of
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: that on Monday. Thursday is typically your third down and
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: blitz packages and versus the book usually seven on Thursday too,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: and then Friday is Friday's goal line short yard, but
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: it's more of no pads, fast walk through style. But
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: it's just gonna be interesting to see how much of
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that with a with a new offense, new components. How
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: much does that affect it or if at all? Who knows,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: We won't know. It's a good discussion. Yeah, and also
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the fact that this offense only played like a corner
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: and a half you wanted going into the sun Sunday,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I think going to be Is there going to be
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: a nice rhythm, a nice tempo? Why worry about that
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: whether they practice because we haven't seen much of rhythm
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: and temple throughout the preseason, so you know, you gotta
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: turn on the light switch comes Sunday. Any confidences group's
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: gonna come out with the rhythm, not really, because I
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: haven't seen much of it in the preseason. I'm always hopeful.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: We think it could. Yeah, we'll see how far that goes.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: You guys mentioned the offensive line here, and you know
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson coming off injury. You got the right guard
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: question mark there and then a rookie at right tackle.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: How confident are you in this five going in the
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: opening day. I'm not You're not obviously confident in Linda.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be fine. Noralds and veteran. He
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: knows how to play and how how to prep. I
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: don't know where we're getting on the right side. Because
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I don't even know who's starting. I'm okay. If I
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: actually liked the I think after what I've seen the preseason,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I would start will Richardson and Taylor and I think
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: they're both physical and they'll be fine. It's gonna be
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit rough, maybe the first couple of series.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: In xiety, the emotions opening day, that's okay. I mean
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: that that that happens. You didn't get through that. I
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: got big questions on the left tackle. I love Cam
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I love his attitude. This team needs his nastiness. He
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: has an attitude the way he plays the game. Um,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: but he's coming off in a c L. He had
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: six reps. Conditioning is going to be a factor, and
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: as I've said all offseason, and I hope, I hope
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: he's worked on it. His footwork scares me because he's
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: such a great athlete, so talented in a lot of areas,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: but he gets sloppy with those foot with his footwork,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and he gets he puts himself in really bad situations.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: And he's playing against a really good player in Frank Clark. Um.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: You gotta de Filippo has the game plan how much
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: film he watched on Frank Clark, I mean a little
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: bit last year and then started watching it today. I
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: watched the third preseason game against Uh, they're playing the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Uh, he's gonna get Staley. I think
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: he's getting paid. Yeah, I think he's even when he
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: was at Seattle, I mean him coming here, I mean
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: he was one of the highest paid defend stands. He
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: gets after it turns the corner whale. Physical uses his hand,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: good inside moved, and we all know can Robson. As
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: much as I love him as well, I love his
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: attitude of physicality, but his technique was flawed at best
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: when he came in his rookie year. Now he has
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: an a C L tear and he's still in longs.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: His key leg his terrorist fixed. So Frank Clark, he's
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: a guy. He's in every down. End Um. I don't
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: think he's a great like a great pass rusher, like
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you turn on the tape like, oh my gosh, is
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: he as good as d Ford. He's different than d
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: for D for his speed only like if you got
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: your hands on Yeah, he's more like just good hands.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: But I really like about Frank Clark for his size,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: you know he's over his two u or sixty pounds.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: He has some length to him. He can flip his
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: hips and turn the corner really well. And he still
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: is a good run defender. So he's an every down guy.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: He's not the pure speed rusher or just third down
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: guy that's gonna scare you to death, but he can
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: beat you if if you don't have a good technique.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Does he move left right? Uh? In the preseason watching it,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: he can. If you're Frank Clark, who do you want
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to line? Are you going over camp? And I saw
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: game against preseason only he was at right end over
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the left hand. Yeah. I mean, if I'm playing Frank Clark,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I'm flip flopping because you got any experience, see what
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: the rookie has. I mean he's gonna have his hands
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: full with Okrafer. I mean, who's no slouch. But if
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I'm if I'm Frank Clark, you know I'm giving Camera
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Robinson and Jowan Tayling my best to see if you
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: get the kid at the right tie can get it done.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: We're talking about the end rushers and Chris Jones might
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: be one of the one of the best inside pass
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: rushers in the National Football League probably second best. Next
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: is an absolute machine. But Chris Jones is what did
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: he have a sack and a half total eleven straight
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: game to give people in an idea. Look, if you
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: get to double digits and you're an interior pass rusher,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: you're you're all world. He's three or four defense events.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: That means in first and second down, he's two gaping tackles,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: all world numbers. Now, I mean fifteen and a half.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: He's uh, he's very good. He's long, his size, Uh,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: outstanding pastors, as you said. But before we can talk
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: more about that in a second, I want to go
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to Joan Taylor. I actually have more confidence in him
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: then probably I do than I do right now, and
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: camp it's got a good feat he I think. I
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: think if Jowan Taylor will just take a deep breath
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and realize when he steps on the fields just football,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: it's no different the same game they've been playing as
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: my life, he'll be fine. I like what I've seen
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: in practice, his preseason table and the one time we
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: saw him was good. Um, he has some things he
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: can work on, obviously, but I think I think Joan
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Taylor is gonna be fine at the right side. Yeah.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I like Juan Taylor as well at right time. The
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: only thing that concerns me a little bit about him
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: because he's so powerful, he utilized it so much. I
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: just know that veteran defensive ends can actually use that
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: against him. You know, I would rather him use his feet.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Explain that, because explain everyone. Because my first came in
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the league, everything about me was to get my hands
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: on you and be physical with my punch, and guys
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: use my aggressiveness against me, especially veteran guys, you know,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: especially so so I tell young guys, especially right the leaves,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: be patient, use your feet, your technique, your fundamental and
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: then use your power as a last resort. You know,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: right now, when I saw Jawan, the only time I
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: saw him getting in trouble and practice is when he
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: just wanted to be overbearing and overpowerful guys. But then
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: when he slowed it down, use his feet, a ton
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: of fundamentals and technique and use his power last. That's
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: when he was able to neutralize. Because your power will
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: always be there if you haven't always be there. I
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: always say this until every every young past block, every
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: every young offensive lineman, you block people with your feet.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: You block people with your feet, you don't. You don't
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: block with your hands. You don't block them with anything else,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: not with your power. Block people with your feet. Leon
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Leon blocked people with his punch. No, but his punch
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: was only effective because his feet took him. If your
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: feet don't take you there, I don't care how hard.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about Leon's feet when I felt that
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: explosion into my chest. I can tell listen. But but
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: but Cell, He's right. You block on with your feet,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and then you put your feet in a position where
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: you can use your hands his weapon. I was thinking
• 31:22
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• 31:25
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• 31:28
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  Speaker 1: line a second go away. He didn't practice again today,
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  Speaker 1: he was listed is not practicing if they were to
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  Speaker 1: have practice yesterday, didn't practice today either. So if something
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• 37:10
  Speaker 1: than what the heck do you do? Well? I think
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: you know if you look at offensive tackles on the roster,
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  Speaker 1: Will Richardson, Yeah, he's your next guy. He's the next guy.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: But I don't see Brandon Thomas having the feat to
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: be able to play tackle. I'll tell you who your
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: best next tackle was at the west side. Did you're
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: starting center, Brandon Linder? As far as athletic ability to
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: go out there and do it, I mean, I'm just
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: telling I see what you're saying, but I mean you're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna do You're not gonna No, No, I'm That's
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: how I'm saying. That's how much of a void you have.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: If Will Richardson were to have to play tackle, First
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: of all, I don't. I've never seen him take a
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: set from the left side. I've never seen it either,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: But I think he's athletic. Let me ask you this.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: You're right tackle your whole career. Did you ever take
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  Speaker 1: absolute left I played left tackle my senior year in college,
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  Speaker 1: but in the pros, if you had to, yeah, because
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: he played left tack, I played. I can play right,
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  Speaker 1: but I prefer not to. I played both. I played
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: both in college. I prefer not to trust me. When
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: were you a right tackle in college? My first two years?
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Three years? Two years? Who beat you out of left tackle?
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  Speaker 1: Nobody we played? We played, Nobody quite strong and weeks. Yeah,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: we played both, so you literally had to play both.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Like I never thought it was a big deal. Like
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I said, right, one play goes left next place. He
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: didn't feel like never never like because that's just because
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: that was high school. You come out of high school, senior,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: you go to I want that scene like this is
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: what you do. I thought everyone did it. I didn't
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: about you do vers did you do in high school?
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: You high school was the right time? Was right? I
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: was right? I was right tackle in high school. Never
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: got a left hand stands. Ever, it's amazing the two
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: guys that went on to have great careers in the
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: pros and your high school coaches had yet right tackle. Yeah, well,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: because we ran right. So we just we never threw
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: the ball. Did you throw? We literally threw twice a game?
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: How many times you throw a game ballpark? Uh? Were
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: about ran most of the time. Okay, like every down
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: if right, every play right. So but so it would
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: not have been like I mean our backup but our
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: swing tackle when uh we played with Ben Coleman, who's
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: the starting guard guard. So if anyone got hurt, if
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I got hurt, he was gonna go in. Actually he
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: got left if Sears got hurt, uh form weeker, we'll
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: go right. Yeah, so our guards are starting guards were
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: backup tackles, backup right tackles. No band was the backup
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: left right, back up right tack so we didn't have
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: a swing tackle when we played right. Let's touch on
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: a couple of things in this game here. You know
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: there's there's not a guard with the Jaguars that that
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: you would take out of the guard spot and put
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: in the exception of will Richardson. Well, that's why I said, Linder,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: who might be your best athlete on the offensive line.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I've always I thought from day one he could play
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: all five positions. Now he's I'm not saying he's should
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: be playing left tackle, but I'm saying he has the
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: ability because well, i'd worry about will Richardson never playing
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: at any regular season NFL game has I've never seen
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: him take a left tackles set, And now all of
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: a sudden, you're gonna ask you've never played, Hey, go
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: to the left side, and Frank's coming at least Linder
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying we're gonna do that. He has
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: the He's a veteran, he go figure it out and
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: go fight the guy at least like I'm like, we're
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Richard's like, what did I get myself into? I just alright.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Let's touch with a couple of things here. In this game,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: we've all seen the highlights of Mahomes scrambling around and
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: then throwing the ball fifty sixty yards down the field
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: for a long completion. Um, how is the past rushing
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: group that this Jaguars team is and wants to be?
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: How do you ensure that that kind of thing does
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: not happen with Mahome? Well, let me let me let
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: me say this first and foremost, because the Kansas City
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Chief's offensive line the if you were to add up
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: the parts, it doesn't equal the sum of the total.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: In other words, they played better as a unit than
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: they are as individuals. I think, and I first of all,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I think Andy Heck has done a great job as
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: an offensive line coach in Kansas City. I think that
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: if you look at Mitchell Swartz, I think he's a
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: good right tackle, he's a good solid player. Eric Fisher
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: a good solid player. But I think what has impressed
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: me the most about Knsey's offensive line they play well together.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: They have a new part in the middle though, and
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: that is Austin Reeder, a fourth year player out of
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: South Fororda, who's their new center. Mitch Morrise, right, was
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: the guy last year. I believe it was Mitch morrise
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: was the starting center. But the rest of the components,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: for the most part, are are are about the same.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: So but they're they're a good offensive line, and they're
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: coached well well and then what they do and they
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: do very well. Uh Andy Reid is not going to
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: get into a game where it's gonna be drop back,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: drop back, drop back, drop back. He's going to move
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: the pocket, and so a lot of their passing game
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: is off play action. So you're seeing run movement half
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: nakeds and so you're taking pressure off of one on
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: one blocks for your offensive alignment because they're always moving there.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: There's some action in the backfield that is slowing down
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: the the defensive front as much as possible, and they're
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: getting a lot of double teams. They're chipping guys very rarely.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Now you'll get some opportunities. Are you gonna just have
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: one on ones with these offensive alignment? Now, third and
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: medium belong, that's where you gotta go to work. That's
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: where you know, uh In Gockway and and Allen and
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: all the especially those two on the outside, they gotta
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: go to work against those backles because outside of that
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: down in distance, it's all movement. It's all play action,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: it's all changing the launching point of Patrick Mahomes. If
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: you watch him, he rarely just drops straight back. There's
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: some action that is getting him to move, even if
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: it's just a yard or two to change the launch
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: point and then it's moving him. But then it's also
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of that kind of that crazy stuff they fake,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the speed reverses, all that that kind of slows everybody down.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Everyone takes half of the kind of hesitate. Yeah, you're right.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: You know, any Read does an excellent job and not
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: putting this office in third and long situations where the
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: defense can actually attack you on one on one blocks.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: You know, he moves the line here, play action here,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: gots backs, chipping there, rotates left right. But I think
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: the weak the weakness of the offensive line probably with
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: its probably interior guys. You know, I think you know
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Schwartz is are good right, all pro right tackle fish
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: is a former first round pick. So if you're gonna
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: attack their offer. If you're gonna attack, the Chief's offense
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: has got to be interior lead. So you know Collais
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Combo inside on the three or marcell Darius on the three.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe some blitz up the middle because you
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: know you got a new center playing now. So I mean,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: that's what But but here's the great great thing about
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs though, that you never catch them and those
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: kind of third and long situation is always third and intermediate.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: It's always third and short. They're able to rotate. You know,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: they were able to move my homes around or you know,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: flare to the back or quick quick drops, quick slant roussell,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: you know, to the wide receiver. So he does an
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: outstanding job. He does a good job protecting his offensive line.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Doesn't put him in a lot of one on one situation.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: They got a doctor on their offensive line, Canadian, not
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: a PhDd wasn't there. He had hurt. At one point,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: was like, I know exactly what this is, was telling
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: the doctor on the field or whatever. Yeah, he got
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: hurt and they have kid who backs him up. It's
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: pretty not too bad as well. He actually played eight
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: games last year. It was Jeff Allen, Right, I thought
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Jeff Allen played last year. There's a guy that must
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: let go. Then another Uh, Andrew Wiley. Yeah, he's starting
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: left because Cam cam Irving was the starting left guard
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: and while he did a good job, very good job,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: very good job. Alright, one more matchup here to get
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: to for you. Take a break here the Jalen Ramsey
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: versus Tyreek Hill thing. I can't believe we haven't. I've
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: took you this long. Hey, I mean it's it's gonna
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: be talking about all days Sunday too. This is what
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun. But this is a fun one
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: to watch, right. I have a question for Leon and Jeff.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Would you travel Jalen Ramsey on Tyreek Hill? Todd Washes
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: he's going to would you travel him? Because I wouldn't
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: let me ask you. I don't know if I believe
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: it or not. That's a good question. I would not
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: travel on. What would you do? I would there? Yes,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I would put Jalen on UH fourteen Sammy Watkins and
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: race Sammy Watkins. I would double Tyreek and I double
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: uh the tide end Kelsey and I would just say listen, Jalen,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: you're playing man for the next teen minutes and we're
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: gonna do combo coverages on these other guys. Hard to
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: do two combos, though we might have to do it right,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: it's hard to do. I'm just saying it's hard, but
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: you can't do it schematically. You can't double two guys. Okay,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: then double Tyreek can take your and take your chances.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: But you can't. I mean, I know what you're saying.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Forget about the schematic of whether how many you can
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: double or not talk. I mean, I'm not a defensive coordinator,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: but watching there's two philosophies. Put your number one guy
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: and their number one guy, and we're double their number
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: one guy. Double the number one. Can take your number
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: one corner and put it on their number two guy
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: and just erase that guy. If you watch what Belichick,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: because he does it all the time. When Belichick plays
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: a top end receiver, he puts Stephon Gilmore and man
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: coverage on their number two guy, and he doubles the
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: number one guy. And the philosophy there is is I'm
• 46:48
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• 46:51
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• 46:54
  Speaker 1: two receiver, and you can erase him completely. He can
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: take him out completely, and two guys better be able
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: to stop one guy in this league. You go back
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: to that that go route that Tyreek ran and it
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: was against Jalen and it was true man and Patrick
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: mahomes through a beautiful ball. I mean it was dropped
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: in the bucket right in the hands of Tyreek Hill
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: and Jalen was fortunate that that Tyreke stepped out of
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: bounds in the process of making the catch and it
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: was a catch. But if Tyreeke is able to just
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: kind of keep his body a little bit better position
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: that that's a house call against Jalen, I mean, arguably
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: the best cornerback in the league. So another case to
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: be made. What would you do? Though, I agree with you,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I'd mix it up because I think the last thing
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: you wanted to do is Patrick Mahan to kind of
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: have something consistent play after play. So I think you
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: gotta mix it up, because I mean I would just
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: when I say mix it up, you you you put
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Jalen on him, and you travel them sometimes and then
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: sometimes you double them, and sometimes you double them with
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: a j boy, and you know, sometimes you made double
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: them and lean your safety over with Jalen even covering them.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, because look, a J boy is no slouch.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I would be totally okay with letting Jalen travel on
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, leaning the safety over the top of that,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: and then letting a J cover Sammy Watkins by himself.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be scared of that. Why why that himself?
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: That that's the benefit of having two great corners. Yeah,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: it helps, you know, make sure me we communicate with
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: with the linebacker because we forgot about Kelc down the
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: midh Yeah him. Yeah, if the tight ends pretty decent too.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Let's come back in a moment. We'll go around the
• 48:31
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• 48:36
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• 48:41
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• 48:44
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• 48:45
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• 48:50
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  Speaker 1: It's been there for a while. I mean we just
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  Speaker 1: didn't have to report it in an hour, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in the process of and you want to make sure
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  Speaker 1: you know that's that's that's reported, but it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's he got a turn training. Um. But obviously it's
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  Speaker 1: much better now than it was before, So we're not
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  Speaker 1: we're not concerned about It's just a quarterback, and if
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: you don't put something down and something does happen, all
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  Speaker 1: health breaks. Lest head coach Doug Marone earlier today, Nick
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  Speaker 1: Voles is on the injury report when it came out
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  Speaker 1: this week with an oblique issue, but full practicing, and
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  Speaker 1: the team even noted how he's expected to play full
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday. But as Duck said, there when you see
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback on there, gonna open your eyes. The only
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  Speaker 1: thing you worry about, and I'm not saying this is
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: what it is is he's on it. There's something there
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  Speaker 1: and I expect to play this week, but you don't
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  Speaker 1: want that thing to linger into a sports hernia or
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: one of those things that those can turn into. Hopefully
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  Speaker 1: it's they're just being overly cautious, like Duck said, because
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  Speaker 1: they don't want to get in trouble for not reporting something.
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  Speaker 1: If he's got a little a campaign, but I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: I'm must taking what you originally said. If he's on
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: the list, he's on the last Yeah, I don't like it.
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  Speaker 1: Now you can go back in history. Team we were
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: talking about the patients before for a whole year Beltip
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  Speaker 1: with Brady on like half the team on the list,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: just because he was trying to make a statement. I
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  Speaker 1: think Tom's gonna play on Sunday, so let's hope that's
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: the case. But I'll tell you this. As I was
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  Speaker 1: sitting around during this hurricane Dorian not doing anything, and
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  Speaker 1: I saw that news come across the wire, I was like, what,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't like it? And it makes me feel very
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  Speaker 1: We're warm and fuzzy inside. It's not the bottom line
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  Speaker 1: you want to see on the ticker there on your
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  Speaker 1: tongue screen at all. Let's go around oblique muscle, just
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  Speaker 1: to come yes, oblique muscle. I don't have ones. I
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  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about it. I'm fresh out. We
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  Speaker 1: all have them. We just can't see him. Okay, it's
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  Speaker 1: if I don't see it, I don't have it. It's
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  Speaker 1: in the midsection and it's it's a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: it can be around the rib area. So so the
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  Speaker 1: twisting motion. I've had an oblique pull going back to
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: college and uh, showing off? Did I? Actually? I did
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  Speaker 1: and shot it up and it was hard to shoot up.
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  Speaker 1: It's because they stick you like seven, eight times just
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  Speaker 1: to try to get the right spot. But my point
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  Speaker 1: is a quarterback's motion is torquing the body throwing the football,
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  Speaker 1: and that requires to have unhealthy oblique muscle or oblique muscles.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: It is a big baseball injury swinging the bat. A
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: lot of those guys get oblique injuries for sure. Let's
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: go around the National Football League and start in Oakland,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: where the Antonio Brown saga continues. After a verbal altercation
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  Speaker 1: between him and general manager Mike may I on the
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  Speaker 1: practice field in front of the rest of the team,
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  Speaker 1: he's facing discipline, maybe suspension, maybe more. Now from the Raider, well,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: you have to do something. The report was he threatened
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  Speaker 1: to punch Mike Mayock to GM as well in front
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  Speaker 1: the whole team. If you're Mayok and Groun, you have
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  Speaker 1: to make a statement. You cannot let this just go.
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  Speaker 1: You have to suspend him. And by suspending him, according
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: to the cb A, Now this will be appealed by
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Antonio Brown and his representatives, which I believe is Jeromesenhouse,
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  Speaker 1: but UH, they can avoid the thirty million dollars of
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: guarantees that he has in his contract for being fined
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: UH for conduct the remaining guarantees about that's a paragraph,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: that's a salary for this season and the next year.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's some reports out there right now that
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: they're gonna cut him and let him go here. Here's
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: what I don't understand is why did Antonio Brown he
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: posted on social media a letter that he got from
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: from Mike Mayo help him. I mean why so nobody
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: would have known about the letter. Nobody would have So
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: you post the letter. You making an issue on social media.
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  Speaker 1: Now you let it escalate and become even a bigger
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  Speaker 1: issue because you have a confrontation with the general manager
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  Speaker 1: of practice. I just I don't understand that. I know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I just know somewhere the Runeys are
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  Speaker 1: saying I told you so. I was trying to figure
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  Speaker 1: out why would you get get rid of a talent
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: like Antonio Brown? You know, And there's the reason Mike
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: tom was sitting there. He's I'm telling you, the Steelers
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  Speaker 1: are just laughing when they got rid of him. And
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: things always tell what did they give him? Steelers are
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  Speaker 1: going suckers exactly. And I tell people all the time,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: if you want to send a message to a football player,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: there's two places that you heard them. You heard them
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: in the pocket and you heard them in the game.
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  Speaker 1: Because if you love the game of football, you don't
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: want to be on the side of suspend it for
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: another and you surely don't want to talk about you
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: suspend him for one game. You accomplished both exactly. Zeke
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Elliott got paid, resetting the running back the numbers in
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: the National football a long time coming. There is he
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: worth all that money? He's worth it. He's the best
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: back in the league. I think he's very good. He's
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: the most important back to his team in the league.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I'll put it that he's very very good. They extended
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: him for six years, so he's had a contract for
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: eight years, meaning he's never playing. So it's really if
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: you average it out, it's about twelve million bucks a
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: year because it was sixty years ninety million of new money.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: But it's not the way I understand. I understood that
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: his his average annual salaries surpassed Gurley of the new
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: money that's other new money is six for ninety but
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: if you extrapolate that over the eight years, then it's
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: twelve or thirty. The same thing with Gurly. They reported
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: his deal. If you took the initial years he started
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: in a contract, they's added more years. Okay, it was nine,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: it was ninety. But how much of that is floating money?
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: And how much it is? I think fifty of its guaranteed.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Fifty of it's guaranteed, So it's the highest guaranteed of
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: a back. Um, it's a lot of money for a
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: running back, guaranteed money. I wouldn't paid him. Yeah, would
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: you have paid Jared Golf million guaranteed? That was like
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: thirty thirty something mill? Would you paid? Hold on? Say
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: with Zeke? Would you pay Zeke ninety million right now? No?
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have paid under contract for two more years.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: But if you look at that draft that Zeke isn't
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: just think about the guys that got paid. You got Golf,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: who got what you know, who paid yet Wentz who
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: got another hundred million bos is going to get paid.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Adventure guess who hasn't got Just coming right behind Jaylor,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: He's like, wait a second, I'm better than all these guys.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Worth my money. He brought the Brakes truck out of
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