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Best Betting Show Ever | NFL & CFB Betting Trends, Predictive Market, MLB Picks, Parlay & More! · Best Betting Show Ever

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, everybody, to the best betting show ever. I'm Lawrence Presman.
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  Speaker 1: This show is about making you money. We're the best
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  Speaker 1: group of bettors on the planet. We're going to take
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  Speaker 1: apart every MLB game on the board. We've got NFL
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  Speaker 1: coming your way. We've got some college football. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk some predictive markets. A new player in the space, Novig.
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  Speaker 1: We got our parlay of the day and we've got
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  Speaker 1: our first ever haircut play. That's right. That's where we're
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  Speaker 1: going to start right off the bat. Art the Caesar,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Ranieri, Ralph Michaels. Art, I'm going to you first.
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  Speaker 1: Every single Wednesday moving forward, you're going to give out
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  Speaker 1: one NFL play. If it loses, you will cut your hair.
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  Speaker 1: Is that correct?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't sign up for this, but I guess this
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  Speaker 2: is what we're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. And you will cut it completely. You're not going
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  Speaker 1: to cut it straight. The ponytail will go.
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  Speaker 2: Sinead O'Connor.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. And there we have, Joe, you could just put
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  Speaker 1: up just Art and Ralph next to each other. We
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  Speaker 1: have a before and an after.
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  Speaker 3: We can do it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I'm just kidding. So there we go. Stay with
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  Speaker 1: us for the haircut play. This play has to win, everybody. Well,
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  Speaker 1: nice to see you, man. You're ready for us? You
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  Speaker 1: got some good shit coming our way? What are you
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  Speaker 1: talking about?
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  Speaker 4: I do.
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  Speaker 5: Nice, simple stuff. It's nothing that you're going to have
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  Speaker 5: to figure out.
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  Speaker 6: It's easy to look at the records and get this
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  Speaker 6: predictive market, and I think these numbers are going to
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  Speaker 6: be somewhat surprising to you, even though it seems pretty logical.
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  Speaker 1: Excellent stuff. Joe, I know you missed yesterday. Hope all
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  Speaker 1: is okay on your front. Welcome back, brother. What's going
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  Speaker 1: on with you?
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  Speaker 4: Uh, Trying to make heads or tails of what the
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  Speaker 4: hell we just witnessed in week one of the NFL
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  Speaker 4: and certainly some very interesting early Friday games in college football.
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  Speaker 3: So a lot to break down.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to it. Art, what did we learn
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  Speaker 1: last night? The Blue Jays.
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  Speaker 2: Terrible loss by them. Terrible loss by the Diamondbacks. There
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  Speaker 2: were some bad losses last night with teams who really
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  Speaker 2: needed to hang in there. You know, obviously the Diamondbacks
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  Speaker 2: still have their series with the Padres, but they're probably
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  Speaker 2: going to have to sweep. And that might not even
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  Speaker 2: be enough. Like you said, bad loss by the Blues.
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  Speaker 2: Great win by the Guardians last night. Obviously, we have
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  Speaker 2: another game tonight. Yep. And then a lot of big
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  Speaker 2: favorites won. You know, Yankees won. Dodgers won. Rays won.
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  Speaker 2: So a lot of teams that were in a lot
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  Speaker 2: of parlays yesterday won. So that's probably good for the Bucs.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, there we go. Joe, Ralph, Joe, I'll go to
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  Speaker 1: you first. Is Cleveland going to make the wild card here?
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  Speaker 1: They got Texas one and a half back, Toronto two,
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore three. Really, that's pretty much it. I think Detroit
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  Speaker 1: and Minnesota are out of it. You think Cleveland's holding on, Joe?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, I stuck a fork in Texas weeks ago, and
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  Speaker 4: now all of a sudden they can't stop winning and
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  Speaker 4: Houston can't stop losing. So now a 500 team barely
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  Speaker 4: is going to win the West, which means it's the
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  Speaker 4: best of the rest at this. I don't know why
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  Speaker 4: Cleveland's such a big favorite with Toronto right on their
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  Speaker 4: tails for that opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: I don't get it, but I don't trust any of
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  Speaker 3: the teams. That's the problem.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think this, it's more Cleveland's
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  Speaker 6: only half game behind the White Sox than they play
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  Speaker 6: them tonight in their favor.
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  Speaker 1: So it's win the division.
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  Speaker 5: It's not the wild card for the Guardians.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, either way. And that's why Kelsey had it at
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  Speaker 1: Cleveland so much further ahead than, you know, the places
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  Speaker 1: that don't have two shots at getting in.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Sharp bets, Art DeCesar. What do you got going? Anything
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  Speaker 1: you're seeing in NFL college football? And we got a
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  Speaker 1: big slate of baseball today. Basically, almost every team in play. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Got two in baseball today. Red Sox and Diamondbacks are on.
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  Speaker 2: And then, as I did yesterday, Prez, I threw out
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  Speaker 2: a couple of college football that have moved. I'll continue
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  Speaker 2: to do that throughout the week. I'll give you three more.
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  Speaker 2: These are actually all totals. They took over in the
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  Speaker 2: Penn State game over 47, took under in the Colorado
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  Speaker 2: game 49 and a half, and took under in TCU
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  Speaker 2: 58 and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Before, let me just jump in here. I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk LA Chargers. We've got a six now. Yesterday, it
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  Speaker 1: was sevens across the board. Six and a half almost
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  Speaker 1: everywhere with a six on tap. There's clearly money coming
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  Speaker 1: in on Vegas. And I understand that. So that's number one.
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  Speaker 1: What are you hearing? And number two, can I please
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  Speaker 1: get a plus three for Jacksonville?
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  Speaker 3: Hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Well, listen, Prez, we said it yesterday, right? We felt
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  Speaker 2: that the Raiders were going to be the better side
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  Speaker 2: if you were getting seven in a divisional game. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: how bad the Chargers look in week one, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to put probably a lot of betters off them. The
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  Speaker 2: public will still put them in teasers now, and they'll
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  Speaker 2: still put them in money line parlays, but no sharp
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  Speaker 2: betters going to be involved with the Chargers until they
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  Speaker 2: see something out of them.
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  Speaker 1: Art, we got a 54 and a half in the
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  Speaker 1: Detroit Buffalo game. The slide keeps moving up. uh listen
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  Speaker 1: i'm not going to be surprised if chicago and detroit
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  Speaker 1: are our first ever 65 uh however what i wanted
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  Speaker 1: to know from you is and i don't want to
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  Speaker 1: put you on the spot but are there any statistics
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  Speaker 1: or anything you could give us on over and under
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  Speaker 1: 54 and a half is we see 55s every now
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  Speaker 1: and again but this is basically as high as it
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  Speaker 1: gets A little later on in the show, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to come back to you and ask you what the
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  Speaker 1: numbers are for over that type of a total on
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  Speaker 1: the Thursday night game. Joe, anything to add? Any questions
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  Speaker 1: to ask Art before we get into our parlay of
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  Speaker 1: the day?
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  Speaker 4: Overreaction week two. Can't wait for it. Here it comes.
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  Speaker 1: So let's start there. Joe, who are the teams? Are
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  Speaker 1: we overreacting to the New York Jets? Are we overreacting
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  Speaker 1: to Green Bay? Is Jacksonville as good as they are?
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  Speaker 1: Is Cleveland as bad as they are? What about Arizona?
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  Speaker 1: Who are we over or underreacting to?
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  Speaker 4: Two teams, as far as I'm concerned, Chargers and Broncos.
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  Speaker 4: If you don't think the Chargers will make a turnaround
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  Speaker 4: this week against the Raiders at home, then I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if you've been following Jim Harbaugh and his career.
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  Speaker 3: They will be fine. Not to mention, styles make fights.
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  Speaker 4: And the biggest issue with that defense of the Raiders
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  Speaker 4: and they look good against Miami, but let's face it.
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  Speaker 4: They were our survivor pick. So the four of us
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  Speaker 4: could look good against Miami.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to.
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  Speaker 4: Throw the ball and they're going to throw the ball
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  Speaker 4: all over the yard against the Raiders and Denver at home. Listen,
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  Speaker 4: Denver in September at home in the altitude. If you
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  Speaker 4: think they're going to look like they did, they haven't
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  Speaker 4: won in Kansas City in a million years. So that
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  Speaker 4: should not have been that much of a shock. I
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  Speaker 4: think that's where the two biggest overreactions go. The public
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  Speaker 4: are going to look to fade them. I'm looking to
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  Speaker 4: back them.
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  Speaker 1: So you think that Denver is the play against Jacksonville?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Ralph, what do you feel about overreaction, underreaction? Any teams
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  Speaker 1: jump out at you you want to talk about real quick?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's going to be part of my TNA press.
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  Speaker 6: And sorry it took me so long, but I have
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  Speaker 6: your numbers for you on those high totals.
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  Speaker 5: Since 2016, there have been.
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  Speaker 6: 106 totals of 54 or higher. They have gone 56
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  Speaker 6: and 44, 56% to the over. And by the way,
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  Speaker 6: since 1998, the highest total in the NFL, 2018, Kansas
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  Speaker 6: City and the Rams were 63 and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Did it go over?
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  Speaker 2: I think that was that Mexico City game, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that could be. Where it was like 50 to 52.
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  Speaker 1: So it went over.
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  Speaker 5: It was 54 to 51.
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  Speaker 6: There was two 60 and a half totals in 2016
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  Speaker 6: and 2018. The Falcons and Packers went over and the
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  Speaker 6: Saints and Falcons went over. So Saints and Falcons went
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  Speaker 6: under by a couple. So totals of 60 or more
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  Speaker 6: and two and one to the over.
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  Speaker 1: Ralph, can you throw in slack that 54 and a
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  Speaker 1: half for me? I got to go on Wager Talk
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  Speaker 1: today later and I'm going to use that exact trend.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody else put up something in the chat group. When
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  Speaker 1: was the last time the New York Jets and the
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  Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns won on the same day? And I think
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  Speaker 1: it said it was like in 1883 when the Duttons
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  Speaker 1: crossed the plains to set up a ranch in Montana,
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  Speaker 1: missing Oregon by almost every death possible.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway.
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  Speaker 4: The problem is the Jets are going to be better
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  Speaker 4: than I anticipated, and that's a problem.
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  Speaker 1: They are, Joe. That's a problem. And I think they're
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  Speaker 1: the play. I think they're the play against Green Bay.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that a little later. Parlay of the day, boys. Art,
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  Speaker 1: I'll go to you first, my friend. What do you like?
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking over nine in the Mets-Orioles game.
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  Speaker 1: Over nine. There we go. Okay, shootout. Not shootout, but whatever. Art, Ralph,
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  Speaker 1: what do you like?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, run first inning, San Francisco and St.
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  Speaker 6: Louis.
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  Speaker 5: It's minus 105. Guys, I'm going to go with Texas.
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  Speaker 1: They're playing Boston. It's basically a pick-em, Joe.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's minus 150. Give me the Yankees.
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  Speaker 4: I'll take Rodon over Zebby Matthews here. The Yankees start
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  Speaker 4: kicking it into another gear.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, tomorrow, our parlay of the day, all college football. Friday,
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  Speaker 1: it's all NFL. Hit the like button. Subscribe to our channel.
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  Speaker 1: Make sure to comment. We read every... Single one of them. Joe,
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  Speaker 1: predictive markets. Bitcoin has, you know, come down a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of late, but it really has done nothing. I mean, 75.6.
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  Speaker 1: I think right now it's impossible to bet. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to even take a guess. It's like it could
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  Speaker 1: be 77. It could be 74. There's no rhyme or reason.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're going to see a run. I've been
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  Speaker 1: telling you guys that for a while now, but I
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  Speaker 1: can't come up with anything for 5 p.m. Eastern.
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  Speaker 3: Right in the middle of every, what is it?
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  Speaker 4: 47 cents for 75, 750, which is kind of what
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  Speaker 4: we are right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, that would be the only bet I
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  Speaker 1: would make, but again, it's, it's, it's, it's, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: call it volatile, but inside of a thousand, whether it's 76, 75,
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  Speaker 1: it's moving very, like the jumps are very big inside
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  Speaker 1: of that. sort of $ 1, 500 window. So I got nothing
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  Speaker 1: for you there. Anything in the wild card position for
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  Speaker 1: the AL East?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I just wanted to check quick, Prez, to see
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  Speaker 4: after one week. What are the future odds looking here
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  Speaker 4: for the NFL championship? And while the Rams lost, got
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  Speaker 4: their ass handed to them, and somehow they're still higher
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  Speaker 4: than everybody else here.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what was it?
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  Speaker 4: Ravens, Bills, and now you're talking about the Rams. 49ers
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  Speaker 4: actually increased because they were around four cents before the
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  Speaker 4: season started. And look at what happened to Kansas City.
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  Speaker 4: Kansas City was about two cents. Now they're seven after
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  Speaker 4: one win.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I want to ask you guys about Kansas City
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  Speaker 1: real quick. Are we overreacting? Because, man, if Walker can
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  Speaker 1: do what he did, that is going to open that
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  Speaker 1: offense up and their defense look great, too. Are we
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  Speaker 1: overreacting to Kansas City right now, Joe?
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, again, the thing, the most impressive part of
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  Speaker 4: that game to me was Mahomes running the ball into
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  Speaker 4: the end zone, inside the 15-yard line without hesitation, took
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  Speaker 4: on tacklers, and it was like, that is a great
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  Speaker 4: sign for them. Having a running game, an elite running game,
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  Speaker 4: makes that division extremely interesting now, but ultimately, you know
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  Speaker 4: what it's going to come down to.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to come down to keeping him out.
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  Speaker 4: And they did it with a undrafted rookie protecting his
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  Speaker 4: blind side.
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  Speaker 3: So Josh Simmons didn't even play.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, Kansas City, if you think the refs won't favor them,
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  Speaker 4: you're out of your mind.
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  Speaker 3: They will.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely they will. That touchdown by Kelsey was out of
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  Speaker 1: control holding. Right in front. He literally had bear hug.
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  Speaker 1: You should be holding 10 yards, bear hugging 20. It
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  Speaker 1: was egregious, egregious.
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  Speaker 3: Fuck, they're not running the ball 220 yards every week.
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  Speaker 1: Either, though.
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  Speaker 3: They're not running 220 yards every week, so.
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  Speaker 1: No, and teams will start game planning. Ralph, looking at,
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  Speaker 1: let's go back to that chart. So San Francisco, 8%
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  Speaker 1: for me. I've been touting San Francisco all the way through.
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  Speaker 1: I gave them out to win the division at plus 300,
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  Speaker 1: to win the conference, to win the Super Bowl. My
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  Speaker 1: favorite bet here is San Fran at 8%. What do
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  Speaker 1: you like? Plus, plus, they're going to be at least
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  Speaker 1: 9% after they whoop Miami.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, they will.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, color me crazy, but very rarely does
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  Speaker 6: a coach like Ben Johnson come out and say he's
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  Speaker 6: going to run up the score every time. He's going
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  Speaker 6: to try to shut out every opponent. I think the
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  Speaker 6: Bears have a shot to win that division. Yes, it's
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  Speaker 6: going to be tough with Detroit, but taking away the
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  Speaker 6: top five or six favorites in that next level, I
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  Speaker 6: would look at them.
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  Speaker 3: That's not a bad five cents.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Art, five cents, this is to win the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Five cents to win the Super Bowl on the Bears.
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  Speaker 1: It's not horrible. Honestly, if this team can put up
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  Speaker 1: 50 every game, they won't need a defense. They'll figure
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  Speaker 1: out a way to get it done.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this, because the question we
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  Speaker 3: should all be asking.
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  Speaker 4: Is, Ralph, how many games do we have to play
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  Speaker 4: in order five cents to turn into 25 cents for
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  Speaker 4: the Bears? How many wins is that going to take,
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  Speaker 4: do you think? Because the schedule is interesting with the Bears.
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be five cents to win the Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 4: No, it's five cents now. How many games would I
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  Speaker 4: have to win from this to go five to 25?
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  Speaker 3: Eight.
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  Speaker 5: I think they're going to be under the radar. The Lions.
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  Speaker 6: I think the Lions are going to get the love.
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  Speaker 6: Minnesota Packers are going to get love. Anyone in that
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  Speaker 6: division can win. So I think it's going to take
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  Speaker 6: them more than you think. If someone jumps out to
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  Speaker 6: a 6-0 and they're leading their division, I don't think
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  Speaker 6: the Bears are going to be leading their division. They
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  Speaker 6: may be up by a game, but they're not going
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  Speaker 6: to run away with this division. So I think there
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  Speaker 6: will be value with them for a few weeks.
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  Speaker 4: What happens quicker, though? Kansas City? I mean, who jumps
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  Speaker 4: the quickest here?
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  Speaker 3: Kansas? Who's in the easiest division?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I think Kansas City jumps quicker now with Chargers'
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  Speaker 6: performance and with Denver's performance.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and Kansas City has Indianapolis up. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think Kansas City jumps quicker. I think San Fran jumps quicker.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you the team that I think is going
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  Speaker 1: to jump the biggest is the Ravens, guys. I think
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens you know, really looked incredible on Sunday offensively.
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  Speaker 1: And now they've got New Orleans. There's zero reason, even without, say, Flowers,
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  Speaker 1: but I think he'll play. But there's zero reason they
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  Speaker 1: don't put up 40 here either and whoop New Orleans.
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  Speaker 1: And then it's going to be like, holy shit, the
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  Speaker 1: Ravens are back. So I think if you want to
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  Speaker 1: make a short-term turnaround bet, I think the Ravens are
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  Speaker 1: the right play.
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  Speaker 4: It's wild to me that the Rams got their asses
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  Speaker 4: handed to them, and now they're 12 cents, and they're still.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they dropped six points. They're still five cents better
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  Speaker 3: than the 49ers? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: I don't get it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing. And I wanted to make one last
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  Speaker 1: mention real quick, guys. We talk about great coaches. You know,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: we talk about Sean McVay and Mike Shannon, and I
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: think Art mentioned Mike McDonald, best coach in football. I
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: think Andy Reid's the best coach in football. And I
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: watched that game, and I watched his game plan. It's
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  Speaker 1: hard to anoint Mike McDonald, Mike Shanahan, or not Mike Shanahan,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. It's hard to anoint
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  Speaker 1: Sean McVay. You got... a three-time Super Bowl champ with
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  Speaker 1: a team that just came out and laid the smackdown
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  Speaker 1: on Denver, I would look at Andy Reid for coach
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  Speaker 1: of the year.
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  Speaker 3: After one week?
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  Speaker 5: And how many people thought up?
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: It's not that. One sec, Ralph. It's not that. It's
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: how bad they were last year. It's the fact that
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: they've got a real shot to be unbelievably improved. Sorry, Ralph.
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: Thinking back what a dozen years ago, how many people
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: thought when he left Philly, he was only going to
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: be a one or two year stop in Kansas city,
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: let alone do the exact same thing and, and, and
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: change another franchise around. That's the amazing part to me.
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: We'll see if Harbaugh can match that. The Giants sure
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: look good week one. So, you know, he's in that
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: same boat.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Joe, Art.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: The one thing I'll say about the Bears and them
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: moving up the predictive markets and all that quicker than
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: maybe expected, if they keep scoring the way they score,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: people are going to look to bet them. If they're
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: going to average 35 points a game, I know they're
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: not going to average 59, but I think people might
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: look a little bit quicker. I still think the Lions
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: are the best team in that division, despite them looking
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: the way they did week one, but Man, I could
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: see the Bears really shooting up the board if they
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: start 4-5, 6-0, or whatever it may be, and they're
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: scoring all these points.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm saying this.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: The greatest show on grass on Lake Michigan?
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: If we use your benchmark, Prez, I can't believe I'm
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: saying this. Aaron Glenn wins eight games. Is he not
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: coach of the year?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: No. Yes, that's a big if, though, especially in that division.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, right? I mean, what do you think, Ralph?
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: There should be a Vegas coach of the year for
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: the coach that covers the win total by the most.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: Same with college football.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: The Circa or someone or Caesars or, you know, the
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: property should come up with a coach of the year,
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: that team that covered their win total by the most.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I just want to point out to everybody what 59
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: points sounds like. Eight touchdowns. Eight touchdowns and one field goal. Eight,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: eight touchdowns. There, I would argue, and I could be
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: wrong here, but I would argue that 70% of football
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: games don't have eight touchdowns in it.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: No.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Combined.
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: There have been, since, been, since 1989, there have been
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: only four NFL teams that have scored 60 points since 1989.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: They aren't one of them. It shows you.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: But hey, and Prez, I also have your answer. Sorry
• 20:03
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• 20:05
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• 20:07
  Speaker 6: I'm here to help on Wednesdays. The Browns and the Jets,
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: each won December 24th, 2023. They also won December 10th
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: in 2023. And they also won October 15th in 2023.
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: So then it's another statement.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: I will look for it. Who the hell was the
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: coach of the Jets in 2023?
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Who was the coach? How do you think they won
• 20:32
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• 20:35
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• 20:37
  Speaker 5: 23?
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: That seems right.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: That's about right. That could be. Yeah. They won three
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: games in December. That's out of control. Oh, no.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: The Giants. It's the Giants. The last time the Giants
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: and the Jets won on the same day was September 18th, 1922.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Is that right?
• 21:00
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• 21:01
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• 21:02
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• 21:05
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• 21:07
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• 21:09
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• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I'm still trying to figure out how the Jets and
• 21:10
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• 21:11
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• 21:13
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• 21:22
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• 21:27
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• 21:34
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• 21:37
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• 21:39
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to point out to Joe and Art,
• 24:05
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• 24:11
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• 24:17
  Speaker 1: the NFL presidential address is up. Check it out. And also,
• 24:22
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• 24:25
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• 24:31
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• 24:34
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• 24:38
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• 24:41
  Speaker 1: presidential address, only 20 minutes long. Ralph, this segment is yours,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: my friend.
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: Well, first, we're going to talk about the NFL and.
• 24:53
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• 24:56
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• 24:59
  Speaker 6: what you have said, week one overreactions in the NFL.
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: So I went back to 2010.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: Simple, guys. This system can't be any simpler.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: Since 2010, in game two, if you play a team
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: off a loss versus a team off a win, that's it.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: Those teams have gone 68 and 53, 56.2%. Not a
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: wild number, but a 56% ATS record in 16 years is.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: Something you need to at least be focused on.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: But if that team is off a loss as a
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: favorite against the team off a win, that percentage goes
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: to 30 and 19, 61.2%.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: That's the Rams, the Chargers, and the Titans.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: And if the team is off a loss, is a
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: favorite off a team off a win, and we eliminate
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: games as a dog of six or more, that'll take
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: the Titans out of the equation. But those teams are 68.4%
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: against the spread since 2010. That applies to the Rams
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: and Chargers this week. So as you guys said, the
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: public looks at a team looking bad. A public looks
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: at a team looking good. If they happen to be
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: matching up, It's not what the public would expect.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe, you mentioned that, too, right off the top.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: You singled out the Chargers there, and it makes sense.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Especially against the Raiders. And the Chargers are home, too. So, yeah,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: I don't like the Raiders' secondary, but Malik Willis and
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: the Dolphins were not equipped to take advantage of it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: But I can promise you Herbert will, and even Mr.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: What is it? Capri's there.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: He will figure out a way to get that offense
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: going before it's all said and done.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Mr. Capri. I was thinking Aaron Donald at first, and
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: then I realized there's two of them.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. There's two of them. Not Aaron Donald.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Mikey McD.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Yes. The New York Jets coach is also in the
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Capri's all the time.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: So for the record, I've never worn a Capri pants
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: in my life. Ever. Not even one single time. Any
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: of you? No.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't even know where to buy them.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: You guys wear socks?
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I don't ever go out without socks. Are you barefoot guys?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Any of you?
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I refuse to put flip-flops on. I don't do any
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Ralph's in Florida now, so Ralph understands.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: You understand the concept, Ralph.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I also don't show people.
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: Don't show people my nasty-ass nails. So those are those
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: fisherman sandals that cover your toes.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Yep, there you go.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, but if you wear, like, loafers and a pair
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: of jeans, are you wearing socks?
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: I've worn long pants once in the last two years,
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: and that was at a wedding.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Atta boy, Ralph. That's it. Welcome to Florida.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Public service announcement! I'd like to apologize to all people
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: in Florida who's had to see that. We will talk
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: to Ralph. He will put pants on. Okay. Well, what
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: do you got for us in college football?
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Well, first, this is pretty simple, but I think there's
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: some logic to it. So I want your opinions if
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: you guys agree or disagree. What changed in 2024 in
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: college football? Signetti comes over from James Madison, and he
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: was really the first true coach ever. That brought, what, 14,
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: 15 players with them. That was the first time where
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: a coach came packaged with a bunch of starters. Well,
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: we've seen that more and more the last couple years.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: In fact, this year, Oklahoma.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: State has 21 players that was on North Texas last year.
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: And Penn State has an amazing 24 players that were
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: on Iowa State last year. So why am I bringing
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: that up? Well, we've seen... season games week one and
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: week two games game number one and game number two
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: were favorites started covering at a nice clip last year
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: and they've even done better this season so some context
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: from 2020 to 2024 in that five-year span game one
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: and game two favorites 48% against the spread and Home favorites, 49%.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: Away favorites, 48%. Below the Mendoza, below the Mendoza, below
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: the Mendoza. This year, game one and two, favorites, 57%.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: Home favorites, 61%. And away favorites, 52%. Now, game one
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: and two, favorites of 21 or more. Five-year span, 49%, 50%, 29%.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: Favorites of 21 or more this season, 65 and 40, 62%.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Home favorites of 21 or more, 64%. Away favorites, only
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: one or three. So what we're seeing is.
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: bigger gap between the best and the worst when you
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: have the powerful teams that are loading their rosters versus
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: FBS lower land teams or FCS teams that got their
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: rosters devastated. There was a roster, I think the highest
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: this year, they lost 64 players. That's like out of
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: 110 players. Imagine 64 people leaving your team. So Early
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: in the season, these non-conference games, do not be afraid
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: to start looking at favorites as the disparity keeps getting
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: wider from the elite teams to the bottom teams. And
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: we've seen these big favorites cover this year. I think
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: that will continue throughout this non-conference schedule. But then remember,
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: once the conference season starts, those numbers will be even
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: out because those lower echelon teams playing each other. And
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: of course, conference play in the power force schedules.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Any thoughts, Joe or Art?
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: A little early, but... It makes a lot of sense.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: A little early for thoughts.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: No, no, it's still low.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, again, Ralph, I mean, I'll be— Joe, last year, Joe,
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: it was about 55%.
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: After that Sennetti bump in 2024, we saw a few
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: more teams do it last year. But, I mean, heck,
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's crazy. South Florida guys all going to Auburn.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: You know, all those guys from Madison going to UCLA.
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: It's just a massive rebounding that those teams that are
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: getting every starter decimated from them are getting these big
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: points and they can't play early in the season.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: Because they have all these entirely new rosters.
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: So, again, we don't know if it's going to pan out,
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: but just be cognizant of it, that these big favorites
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: are not the negative that you might expect thinking you
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: want to fade them.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you had Franklin brought a lot to Virginia Tech,
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: but I know Eric Morris and that North Tech, and
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: that was one of the big question marks. with Oklahoma
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: State is you're bringing all those guys on. Listen, Oklahoma
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: State plays in the Big 12. That's a big step up, Ralph,
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: than North Texas and what was going on. So in
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: a lot of these spots, you just don't know what
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: are you going to get. I mean, Va Tech, James
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Franklin brought his quarterback that he had. I think he
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: only played a half a dozen games at Penn State.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: So there's a lot of mixing and matching. But to
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: your point, Ralph, familiarity with some of these teams and coaches.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: You know, guys, how many new coaches we got this year?
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: It's absurd.
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: So, Joe, you mean like it's hard to figure out
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: what's going to happen when an Oklahoma State loses by
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: 10 points in week one and then wins as a
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: 24-point favorite?
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Against a team that they dominated at North Texas.
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: It was one of the most dominant offensive and defensive
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: line performances I've ever seen against Oregon. I mean, the
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: 300 yards rushing and 8.0, and they held Oregon to 3.0.
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: If you were watching those games with no jerseys on,
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: you would think Oklahoma State was a 28-point favorite.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: They looked that good against Oregon.
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: It wasn't a fluke where they had three pick sixes.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: It was a complete domination.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: And now that's the ceiling, Ralph, isn't it?
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, because we didn't get that in Tulsa, and
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: we still didn't know what the hell this team was
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: all about. But boy, oh boy, that's a different playing
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: field right there in the Big 12.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: Were you a fan as an alum, Joe, when you
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: brought Morrison?
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: I was, but again, I didn't.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Listen, Morris owned Tulsa at North Texas. All those players
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: came with him. You thought they would beat Tulsa. They
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: looked like they never played football before. They go home,
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: and Oregon comes in, and they just smack Oregon all
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: over the place and be an outfitter. So now you
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: know the dichotomy. Now you know the ceiling, and you
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: know what the floor is. So the sky could be
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: the limit.
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: Not as bad as a 24-10 loss. Remember, they had
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: a yardage edge. They turned the ball over four times.
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: There were minus three turnovers. I think teams that are
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: minus three turnovers only win the game about 11% of
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: the time. So they weren't quite as bad against Tulsa
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: as they were good against Oregon.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: And they were 0-7 on fourth down.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: They're dead to me. That's the bottom line. That team
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: is freaking dead to me. I had the over in
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the first game. They forgot there was a game to play.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Then I had Oregon in the second game. They didn't
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: show up. Let's move the hell on. That team has
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: given me freaking P-S-T-D-Q-Y-Z, whatever the hell that is.
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: It's all kidding aside, but our viewers need to know.
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: It's okay to throw a team out that you're not
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: going to handicap. Like, for two straight years, I couldn't
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: pick an Auburn game right. I just didn't even look
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: at them. I mean, there's enough games.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: To try to find the value.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: If you're not seeing a team right, you just take
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: them off your card, cross them off, and keep moving on.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, except I'm a sucker and always learn that too late. Okay. Well, Michael, everyone.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Friends, one more thing. Sorry, I'll do it quick.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: Okay. It's like looking, when I do an NFL game
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: one off a win, game one off a loss, I
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: want to see if it translates into college football. 2-0
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: teams versus 0-2 teams. And again, college football is so
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: different because you can be 2-0 as a 50-point favorite
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: twice or 0-2 as a 50-point dog twice. But if
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: you blindly just look at every 2-0 team against every
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: 0-2 team, it is not like the NFL. 2-0 teams
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: are 61.4% against the spread since 2017. 2-0 home teams
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: against 0-2 teams, 67% against the spread. And if they're
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: a home favorite of 12 or more and they're 2-0
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: against an 0-2 team, how about 74% against the spread
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: since 2017? So something to keep an eye on in
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: college football as well. 2-0, double-digit favorites, 74% ATS. There
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: we go.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Well, if we'd have you on the haircut play section,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: but you'd have to grow your hair if you lost
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: the play. And, well, I don't think that's going to happen, so.
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: You know, my hair about here grows because it curls
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: on my thing. And then I know I have to
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: go get a haircut when it curls on my ear.
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: So that's my haircut alert.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: We're both of ear. So I don't yet have ear
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: hair issues, but clearly my nostril hairs grow well. Yes. Anyway.
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: Thanks.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Love you, Ralph.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: Appreciate you guys.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Man, I tell you guys, that's a hell of a segment.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Wednesday show is long. I get it.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: But tons of incredible information. Guys, tomorrow's show is our
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: contest show. So remember that. We're going to pick our
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: survivor tomorrow. We're also going to pick some NFL, our
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: NFL pick five. How did we do in our NFL?
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I think we're at four and one, right?
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: No, three and two.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Three and two.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: That's okay.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: That's okay. That's fine.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Let's go three and two every week.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I've been doing Survivor.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Survivor was a slam dunk.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Thank God. I took the Chargers, and I got
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: to tell you something, guys, and I actually mean this.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: so teddy and i both took the chargers and teddy
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: and i were equally happy when we lost and i
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: know that sounds so weird that's great neither of us
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: wanted to be in that stupid thing and we were
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: both like we're doing it for our brands and we
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: get pressure i hate survivor and it and it's like
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I wasn't even upset. I was like, okay, that's done
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: for the year. Let's move on. Now, I am in Survivor.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: The Walker one, $ 25 a team. I'm in the big one,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: another $ 100 one that Kelly and everybody else is in.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: But the $ 1, 000 Circus Survivor, I am free and clear.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: You're still in, Prez. You're still in.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: We, we.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: We, yeah, exactly.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: You're still in.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: Arch.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: We've already succumbed to the alpha in the room. Me
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: and you aren't picking any of these survivor picks. We're
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: just going to agree with Joe.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: No, our boys aren't with the Raiders. And you like
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville as well.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: You and I like Jacksonville.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: We did like Jacksonville.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: We never thought about the Chargers. I think we were
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: going to.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Win last week either on the Raiders.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: That's it. Jacksonville.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: But it's better we got the Raiders out of the way.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: On a big favorite of week one.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Well, you wait, Joe, because tomorrow we're going to be
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: discussing Tampa Bay. Okay, let's move on. 98%?
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's going to be absurd. It's going to
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: be absolutely.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: And if Detroit would have lost, and they should have
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: lost because nobody can tell what a forward pass is
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: or a backwards pass, apparently. It's the intent, whatever the
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: hell that was.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: What, Art? Another 20% would have went out the window?
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: You could have knocked out, yeah, like half the pool.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Unreal. It's incredible.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: It's incredible. Guys, so every week on Wednesdays, we're going
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: to give out our favorite side bet. Art's gonna be
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: doing it for his hair we'll go to him last
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: i'll start right off the bat.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: How that happened art.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Well we gotta create drama joe so listen guys here's
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: the bottom line for me i like the new york
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: jets plus three and a half against green bay packers
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: i'll break this down super quick you know i'm one
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: of these handicappers and more interested in the vibe and
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: the feel and the rhythm of a team than the
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: situation or trends that go back 30 years I think
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: what we saw in Tennessee was a New York Jets
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: team that showed moxie, that showed confidence. I like their
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: play calling. There seemed to be a good vibe there.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I understand they're playing Tennessee, but they were on the road.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: They were not expected to beat Tennessee by a whole lot.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: And I think Green Bay is a team that is
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: going to regress. I think they lack wide receivers. I
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: think they lack a running game. I think Jordan Love
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: is overrated. I think without Micah Parsons, their defense is susceptible.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I think they're going on the road here. They're not
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: feeling good about themselves, and the Jets don't need a win.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: All they need to do is lose by three. With
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: that said, I think the Jets are a good money-line bet,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: but I'm going to take them plus the three-and-a-half. Joe?
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: Well, I think I already told you guys that I'm
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: on Denver on Sunday in Mile High there. Listen— Denver
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: did not look good, and any time you get Sean
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: Payton look like a deer caught in the headlights, you
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: know there are going to be changes. He is one
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: of the better bounce-back coaches, and let's all face it,
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Denver is not as.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Bad as they look there at all.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, giving up 220 yards on the ground, I
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: can assure you that's not going to happen. And September
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: is a rough place at mile high to win games in.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: So anything under a field goal, I'm good with that.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, not saying that Jacksonville is a terrible team here,
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: but home field matters in September in a handful of
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: places in this country. One of them is here in Miami.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: The other one is in Tampa. And there's absolutely in
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: Denver early in the season, a significant edge there. They
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: got embarrassed. I expect a huge effort. From the Denver
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: Broncos this weekend.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: So, just to let you guys all know, Art DeCesar's
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: play is San Fran on the money line.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: What the hell is that line?
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Well, just because he wants to keep his hair, damn it.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: He wants to keep his hair.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give out something real. I'm going to
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: give out a road favorite.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: All right. Come on.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Let me pick.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Let me guess. Let me guess. Road favorite.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, I know who it is. I know who it is.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Road favorite. It's absolutely Cleveland.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, that's not a favorite. I'm sorry.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Carolina. I'm going with Carolina.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: I'm going Cincinnati.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love Cincinnati.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: But they're not a favorite.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: I'm taking the defending champs with the best coach in
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: the league. I think it's a little bit of an
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: overreaction to the Cardinals. That line was, you know, six,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: five and a half, five. It's now four. We're getting
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: a cheap price on Seattle. Their defensive running game will travel.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Drew Locke will be fine. And listen, the Cardinals might
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: be better than we thought, but Seattle will still go
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: in there and win by a touchdown or more.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: So there are three and a halves out there. A push,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: you keep your hair. We'll give you the four.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: No Sam Donald, though, right?
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: No Sam Donald.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: No Sam Donald.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, so there we go, Art. That's the
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: haircut play, everybody. I'm hoping he wins because I'd really
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: like to keep this segment going because Joe and I
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: are not cutting our hair no matter what. So that's
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: for damn sure. Okay, boys, MLB rundown. Microphone's yours. Let's go.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Lots of games.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: All right, let's see what we got here.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: We got a couple of different games coming up a
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: little bit later today. And by the way, I think
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: also last night Milwaukee ended up clinching. I don't know
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: what took them so long, but some afternoon games, a
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: lot of afternoon action here. We'll just go to the
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: late games here. We'll start at 640. Snell versus Abbott.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Dodgers versus Cincinnati. Eight and a half is the total.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: And again, I don't know. They're one of the worst
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: run line teams in all of Major League Baseball this year.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: But do we have a choice but to lay it here, Art?
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: That's the only way you can bet Dodger games, even
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: though they don't cover. I know you could probably look
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: other ways and maybe props. It's now strikeouts, team totals,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: but it's hard to bet Dodger games right now.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: The athletics. Ooh, athletics. Close one last night. Take it
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: on Tampa.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: Nick Martinez versus something called Abasso. But it's been a
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: lot of athletic money in the marketplace here.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: What are we thinking, Art?
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised by that. Tampa will be a big...
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Moneyline favorite today for the parlay bettors. I will go
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Tampa team total over.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: We also have Milwaukee.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: Speaking of clinching there, Logan Henderson versus Jones against Pittsburgh.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: Seven and a half to total. Milwaukee is a favorite.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: Our question is, how hungover are they, Art?
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Yep. That's one of my favorite angles. I actually think
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: taking the plus price for Pittsburgh is the move today,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: especially after the clinch last night, the celebrating, the partying.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Maybe a couple of guys out of the lineup. Look
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: to the Pirates.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: Iman Naga and the Cubs taking on the Atlanta Braves here.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: This is an interesting one here. Richie going for the Braves.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: Minus 140s for Chicago Cubs at home?
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a tough one to figure. You know,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: the Braves are still hanging on here. Obviously, the Cubs
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: can't win their division, but they'll be a playoff team.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I guess I would lean the Cubs.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Robbie Ray taking on Adams there. San Diego, I don't
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: know how they lost last night, but they did. I'm
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: just going to keep playing overs, though. 11 is the total,
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: minus 165. He still walks too many guys from ER.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: There could be a ton of runs in that matchup there.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: And Merrill Kelly on the mound for Arizona, trying to
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: bounce back after an extra inning loss last night, taking
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: on Gusto of Miami.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: What do you think?
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Sharps are on the D-backs. That was a brutal loss
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: last night, especially because San Diego lost. And, you know,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Arizona could have picked up a game. Terrible loss. They
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: have to win tonight. Because, like I said, they still
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: have that series with San Diego where, at this point,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: they probably have to sweep.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they do.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Boston to Texas. Gore versus Bennett here tonight. Texas again.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, here comes the West. Yep, here comes the West.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Do we like them again tonight?
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, it's basically a pick-em price. You know,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: too bad that those teams, Arizona or... Texas and Houston
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: don't have a series left because Texas is only a
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: game back. So Texas has to keep winning. Obviously, the
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Red Sox are in the playoffs.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: Yep. Lynch versus Javier, Kansas City back at it against
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: Houston here. Minus 160 with Christian Javier.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Seems to have figured it out maybe a little bit. Yeah.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, Houston won a game last night that
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: they need to win. They have to continue to win
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: with Texas nipping at their heels. I know Kansas City's
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: been better over the last six weeks, but Houston are nothing.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Baltimore at the Mets. Bassett versus Stock here.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: And I believe, did he or did he not hit
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: his 300th home run last night there, I think. Didn't
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: he on his, and everyone loved him? He did.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: He spiked his bat. The Mets fans were delirious because
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: they hate ownership so much. I put in the parlay
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: of the day the over. I think there's going to
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: be a lot of runs.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: And that's your Major League Baseball rundown here, Prez.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, still muted.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Sorry. A couple of quick things in the mailbag section.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Authorized rights. Dude picked the Jets. Laugh my ass off.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: First Green Bay. How much, how low would your self-esteem
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: be where you have to be like, laugh my ass off.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: He picked the Jets. Like how much problems do you
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: have in life when that happens?
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: The game hasn't even happened yet.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: The guy's already laughing at us.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Comment on Monday. Are we commenting now?
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: This is the problem I have with the Jets is
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: that everyone thinks they suck and they're going to win.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: But why the laughing? What is your... Anyway. Kelly, we
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: love you, Kelly. Glad I tuned in some NFL intel. Remember,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Buffalo opens a new stadium. Yeah. We should have asked Ralph. Guys,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get that information for you tomorrow. Okay?
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: So I will address the new stadium angle tomorrow. And
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: on that note... Uh, lots of love to all of
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: you guys. Thanks for commenting. Thanks for liking the show.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: It's been a really awesome, uh, time doing this. Yep.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: That's the president dress oldest show in wager talk history.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: It predates wager talk. That's right. It's on your 21.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Is it up?
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's up now, dude. I've already got 10,000 people
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: have already watched the NFL presidential.
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: Let's go.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. I got a 5% total for Sunday. Prez, 10.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Other than that, we'll see you all tomorrow.
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: Bye, Joe. Bye, Art.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Bye, me.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Let's go.