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Mac & Bone Show - Nick Carboni Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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Speaker 1: He's been out there covering training camp.
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Speaker 2: We want to get his thoughts on what he's been
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Speaker 2: seeing in the offense, by all accounts, has three straight
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Speaker 2: days of winning the day, including what sounded like a
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Speaker 2: dominant performance yesterday. Nick Carboney, Sports director w cn C
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Speaker 2: joins us in the Back and Bone show, Nick, what
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Speaker 2: is going on?
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Speaker 1: Man? Sorry to hold jump for that content? Nick, what's
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Speaker 1: going on?
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Speaker 3: Brother? Did you guys just bring me on to a
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Speaker 3: what the bleep segment?
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Speaker 4: I gotta be honest, I don't know. That was an
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Speaker 4: odd transition to you here. Asn't planned. I just I
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Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know how that happened. I'll I'll
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Speaker 4: have to review the tape on that. Nick, I don't
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Speaker 4: know how that happened. I had four hours to talk
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Speaker 4: about mall he did it right now?
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Speaker 2: What do you think, as I try to segue so
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Speaker 2: badly here, what do you do you think of the
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Speaker 2: offense having three day big days in a row. I know,
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Speaker 2: I guess it depends if you're positive or negative. If
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Speaker 2: you're positive, you're gonna love it for the offense. If
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Speaker 2: you're a negative type fan, you're going to say, I'm
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Speaker 2: worried about the defense, what have you?
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Speaker 1: What do you make of what we've seen out there?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're really gassing up the offense the last Sorry, yeah, no,
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Speaker 3: I think it's a more encouraging sign for the past game,
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Speaker 3: specifically the way Bryce Young has looked in command and control,
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Speaker 3: and you know he's doing it against the top cornerbacks.
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Speaker 3: Now back on the field for team drills and some
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Speaker 3: of these type of drills that are really you know,
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Speaker 3: competitive with Mike Jackson and JC Horn. Kind of building
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Speaker 3: back up after just a slightly slow start getting back
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Speaker 3: into forum for camp, and it was a build up
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Speaker 3: for the offense. I mean we started hearing about it
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Speaker 3: someday like this was their bounce back defense had the
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Speaker 3: first couple of days. Now, Bryce Young and the offense
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Speaker 3: are kind of winning more each day. And yesterday, I
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Speaker 3: mean Bryce was dicing and he's spreading it out, as
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Speaker 3: you guys mentioned earlier in the segment before we went
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Speaker 3: into the Mama discussion. But he's spreading it out and
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Speaker 3: obviously a receiver unfortunately drops yesterday. But you know, we've
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Speaker 3: seen Lee Get make really good plays this camp. We've
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Speaker 3: seen t Mac. I mean I was talking to a
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Speaker 3: couple people I've been here since twenty sixteen. I have
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Speaker 3: not seen a receiver catch the ball as cleanly as
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Speaker 3: t Mac does. It's a thing of beauty and it's
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Speaker 3: really helpful to Bryce Young. He can put it just
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Speaker 3: about anywhere in that radius. And Jasim reed, as you
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Speaker 3: guys have discussed David Moore, who checks two big boxes
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Speaker 3: for a guy yet again trying to make this team
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Speaker 3: and probably going to make this team, And that's the
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Speaker 3: quarterback trusts him and the coach trusts him. So I
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Speaker 3: think it's a lot about Bryce's command and control and
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Speaker 3: his ability to make anticipatory throws and having that timing
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Speaker 3: down with a lot of these guys out there, and
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Speaker 3: that showed up yesterday and I think you know what
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Speaker 3: we heard from j C. Horn and Mike Jack was like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: they're not happy, they kind of lost the day, but
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Speaker 3: they were kind of tipping their hats to Bryce Young.
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Speaker 4: Nick, what do you think about the Brazzle injury? It
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Speaker 4: feels like we've got kind of multiple schools of thought here.
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Speaker 4: There are some guys at texted the show and said,
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Speaker 4: what's the big deal, He's a rookie. White out some
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Speaker 4: people because it's another injury. It's kind of a sky
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Speaker 4: is falling, we keep losing guys mentality. What do you
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Speaker 4: think of the brassl injury in terms of impact that
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Speaker 4: I'll have on this offense.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I certainly think it's kind of in between that.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's not sky is falling. You're not expecting
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Speaker 3: this guy to be a top two receiver on the
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Speaker 3: roster right now, but it is significant you group it
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Speaker 3: in with the other injuries. It's like you're holding your
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Speaker 3: breath every day out there hoping somebody else doesn't go down,
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Speaker 3: and every time somebody slips, like Jonathan Brooks, like you're
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Speaker 3: wondering if they're gonna if the cart's gonna come out.
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Speaker 3: But Brazil is a guy that could have had an
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Speaker 3: immediate impact on this offense. He can affect where even
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Speaker 3: Temac lines up. He can do a little bit more
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Speaker 3: than just run the go route. But certainly that's what
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Speaker 3: he gives you that you don't have in a significant
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Speaker 3: way on this offense. He gives you the ability to
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Speaker 3: intentionally we thought we were going to see to see
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Speaker 3: if you can give them ability to take the top
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Speaker 3: off of the defense and free things up underneath. So
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Speaker 3: hopefully that happens. But you know, it's a slow start
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Speaker 3: to his rookie season, and sometimes that doesn't lead to
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Speaker 3: somebody coming back right away and just packing things up immediately,
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Speaker 3: especially if they're going to miss this much camp in
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Speaker 3: the beginning of the season. So I don't think it's,
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Speaker 3: you know, a backbreaker. I probably shouldn't mention like another injury.
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Speaker 3: Oh no, we're talking about this. I don't think it's devastating,
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Speaker 3: but it's certainly significant.
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Speaker 2: We're talking to Nick carbon If somebody has a serious
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Speaker 2: back injury, Carboni, we're blaming you.
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Speaker 3: I'll take the rest of the year off of Okay.
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Speaker 1: There you go.
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Speaker 2: We got it marked down. Nick Carboni here talking football,
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Speaker 2: all right. We're not shaming anybody's relatives with Nick Carbony.
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Speaker 2: He is here to strictly talk football on this show. Carboni.
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Speaker 2: Two receivers, and I know you talked about a bunch
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Speaker 2: of the receivers and Bryce has really been spreading the
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Speaker 2: ball around. But two specific receivers we haven't talked about much,
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Speaker 2: John Metchi and Jimmy Horn, and the two practices I've
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Speaker 2: been out there, it definitely feels like Mechi is more
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Speaker 2: noticeable than Horn. What do you think about those two
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Speaker 2: guys and their chances. I mean, it's a crowded fight
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Speaker 2: for roster spots. Where do they fit in?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think Mechi is above Horn right now.
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Speaker 3: I think you're seeing the connection between he and Bryce
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Speaker 3: Young that dates back to college showing up and he's
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Speaker 3: you know, he's I know, he's had an illness that
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Speaker 3: you know, really derailed his career a little bit. But
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Speaker 3: he has a little bit more experience obviously than Jimmy Horn.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I think Horn's got to give you
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Speaker 3: something else, maybe in the return game or something to
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Speaker 3: really make a case. I mean, this receiver room compared
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Speaker 3: to last year, got a whole lot more competitive this offseason,
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Speaker 3: even with the loss of Braziln and Horn. Look, he's
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Speaker 3: got speed, can put it all together to be that
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Speaker 3: take the top off the defense guy. We haven't seen
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Speaker 3: it yet, but he's certainly going to have opportunities all camp,
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Speaker 3: especially with Brusel out to prove that he can be
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Speaker 3: that guy, because man, if he can give you that
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Speaker 3: like that may change the equation. But right now, I think,
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Speaker 3: you know, based on the experience, based on the connection
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Speaker 3: that previously existed with Bryce Young, METI's kind of got
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Speaker 3: a leg.
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Speaker 4: Up there on the defensive side. What do you think
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Speaker 4: about the news of j. C. Horn maybe playing more
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Speaker 4: in the slot this year in how that'll look on defense.
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Speaker 3: You know, everybody's wanted him to move around for the
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Speaker 3: last couple of years, and Averro has been very conservative
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Speaker 3: and not wanting to do it. And listen, there could
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Speaker 3: have been spots where he could have maybe you know,
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Speaker 3: made that move, but he didn't. I just don't think
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Speaker 3: he trusted the rest of the defense as a whole
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Speaker 3: collective to kind of make up for it another spot.
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Speaker 3: And now you know, they've got Mike Jackson as a
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Speaker 3: solidified number two borderline number one corner. On the other side,
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Speaker 3: they've got Corey Thornton, who you know, I really really
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Speaker 3: was disappointed we couldn't see him finish the season last
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Speaker 3: year because I liked him from camp and on and
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Speaker 3: I know they did too. And he certainly looks like
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Speaker 3: he belongs and now Will Lee looks like he belongs.
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Speaker 3: So that with and with Trayvon marrigg back there, maybe
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Speaker 3: even the key Wheatley able to make plays. I think
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Speaker 3: they feel like and Avero is going to feel like
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Speaker 3: he's going to be able to be a lot more flexible,
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Speaker 3: a little more aggressive in his moving JC around like
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Speaker 3: a chess piece and really playing the matchups rather than
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Speaker 3: just kind of gluing him to one side.
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Speaker 1: Or the other.
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Speaker 3: So I think it's kind of a product of the
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Speaker 3: talent level on defense at all three levels getting better.
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Speaker 1: I mean even even.
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Speaker 3: At linebacker and up front, all those Corton's out, but
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Speaker 3: you add Jalen Phillips, a prize free agent ed rusher,
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Speaker 3: like it all factors into all three levels being able
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Speaker 3: to allow you to move somebody and kind of have
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Speaker 3: everybody be a force multiplier and make everybody else better
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Speaker 3: and allow you to do more.
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Speaker 2: What do you think of the way that Monroe Freeling
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Speaker 2: has been holding up out there? I mean, I haven't
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Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen a tweet since last Friday.
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Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen one at the last three practices.
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Speaker 2: Uh, And we were at two of them and I
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Speaker 2: didn't notice anything where he stuck out in a bad way.
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Speaker 1: What have you seen?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, and some of the practices, it's just been.
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Speaker 2: Hard to see that one we were at with you
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Speaker 2: on what was that day, Bone Tuesday?
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Speaker 4: All I saw was all I saw was the back
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Speaker 4: of Camp Jackson.
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Speaker 3: Then that'll that'll impede your view people like.
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Speaker 1: The damn Son out man. Oh my gosh, uh yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean I always thought Monroe Freeling was going to
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Speaker 3: need time to adjust to this level. I liked the pick.
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Speaker 3: I thought they should have gone left tackle. I love
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Speaker 3: that they went out and were prudent enough and patient
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Speaker 3: enough to do that left tackle of the future. But
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Speaker 3: now he's the right tackle of now and that's unexpected.
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Speaker 3: So he's not only adjusting to the NFL game and
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Speaker 3: NFL edgreshers, but he's doing it on a side that
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Speaker 3: he's less familiar with, although he has some familiarity with
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Speaker 3: that side, and anytime you ask canalis about him or
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Speaker 3: Jalen Phillips the other day, or Tommy Tremble as well,
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Speaker 3: because he kind of lines up in the line next
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Speaker 3: to him and you know, has that kind of blocking
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Speaker 3: experience as well. It's a lot of physical traits there,
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Speaker 3: passion for the game, there, ability to learn and improve there.
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Speaker 3: But there are growing pains and it's a question of like,
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Speaker 3: are those growing pains going to be out of the
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Speaker 3: way by the start of the season. Excuse me, I
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Speaker 3: don't think you're going to get the reliability, the consistency
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Speaker 3: of a tailor moten right away, but you certainly have
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Speaker 3: a guy that's talented enough to keep picking it up
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Speaker 3: and building week to week. So it's not an ideal
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Speaker 3: spot to be at that position, you know, starting with
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Speaker 3: the ikey Ikuanu injury early in that playoff game. Now
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Speaker 3: you have Taylor Moulton out with an unexpected and scary
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Speaker 3: medical issue, and we don't know when or if he
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Speaker 3: will be back, so it's it's gonna just depend on
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Speaker 3: how quickly he can pick this up. And I think
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Speaker 3: it's great that they have Jalen Phillips over there and
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Speaker 3: they can kind of throw him at him as much
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Speaker 3: as they they can to really sharpen him up. But
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Speaker 3: right now I think it's just gonna be a little
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Speaker 3: up and down for a while. We'll see what happens
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Speaker 3: in the games.
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Speaker 4: I want to ask you, how was the MLS All
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Speaker 4: Star event at the Bank last night?
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Speaker 3: It was a good show, you know. I had never
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Speaker 3: really watched the MLS All Star game in full, had
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Speaker 3: seen bits and pieces of it in the past. Haven't
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Speaker 3: had a Charlotte player playing the game until the three
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Speaker 3: suited up last night. But one thing you look for
10:54
Speaker 3: when you you know, we're judging these All star games
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Speaker 3: in all of our favorite sports, is like, does it
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Speaker 3: look like the sport is supposed to look? And that
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Speaker 3: looked like a pretty competitive soccer game last night. You
11:06
Speaker 3: had somesational goals. I mean that Carloss heel to Sonny
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Speaker 3: goal was amazing. That volley goal was just absolutely the
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Speaker 3: way heel kept it in bounds and just sliced it
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Speaker 3: through the box, and then the touch on the volley
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Speaker 3: from Sonny was fantastic. So you had the superstars showing out.
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Speaker 3: There was physicality. I mean it wasn't over the top,
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Speaker 3: but there were cards dealt. Sonny took kind of a
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Speaker 3: blow to the back of the head after the two goals.
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Speaker 3: It will almost reminded me of an inside pitch after somebody,
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Speaker 3: you know, knocks a few home runs, like hey, you know,
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Speaker 3: we're tired of you kind of killing us here. There
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Speaker 3: were great saves despite a seven goal game, and it
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Speaker 3: was a good crowd. I know there's some haters out
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Speaker 3: there that want to tweet a picture of a half
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Speaker 3: empty NFL stadium. There were thirty five thousand last night.
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Speaker 3: That was capacity for the lower Bowl that beat last
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Speaker 3: year's All Star crowd by twenty thousand, obviously in a
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Speaker 3: smaller stadium.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would a told move by that guy. Get
12:02
Speaker 4: out in the pregame, we'll get the attendance. Do it
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Speaker 4: during the game, clown.
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Speaker 1: But the whole point is.
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Speaker 3: That everybody who it's like everybody who tweets that picture
12:10
Speaker 3: the Panthers Falcons Monsoon game when there was like one
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Speaker 3: person out there while everybody was inside drying off at halftime.
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Speaker 3: You know, like, listen, listen, take take things in the
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Speaker 3: context they're actually in.
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Speaker 2: But here's the point, and you just you just alluded
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Speaker 2: to it, like even like I assume maybe they took it.
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Speaker 2: Did they take it when it was full, but it's
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Speaker 2: just the lower bowl and they're making fun of the
12:31
Speaker 2: upper bowl being empty.
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Speaker 1: They didn't sell it, took the photo.
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Speaker 3: I just looked at the time staff. It was seven
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Speaker 3: point fifty. That was about twenty five thirty minutes from
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Speaker 3: the ball. That's definitely kicked off.
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Speaker 2: That's annoying, not to mention if you play All Star
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Speaker 2: games like they did in Austin in a soccer only stadium,
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Speaker 2: those soccer only stadiums, to your point, hold significantly less
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Speaker 2: than what our lower bowl does. So when we filled
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Speaker 2: the lower bowl, we are still obliterating every buddy in
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Speaker 2: attendance except Atlanta. Like we're second and.
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Speaker 3: It founded good, Like when scored, it was fantastic. There
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Speaker 3: were Lega McKy's chants ringing through the lower bowl. Excuse
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Speaker 3: me when the game got tighter, like yeah, it's it's
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Speaker 3: gonna feel different in a bigger venue. But there are
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Speaker 3: more people, and you know, listen, I would have loved
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Speaker 3: the upper bowl to be open. Uh, we've seen how
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Speaker 3: that looks. We haven't seen it at Charlotte in a while,
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Speaker 3: you know, for for MLS competitions, but you know, for
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Speaker 3: for a game where at some point the lower bowl
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Speaker 3: was expected to be it like they sold out the
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Speaker 3: lower Bowl.
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Speaker 2: I know that's annoying. I don't know who this person is,
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Speaker 2: but they're on my list. Bone, They're right there on
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Speaker 2: my list with that damn person. It wouldn't give me
13:46
Speaker 2: a courtesy wave when I let him turn in traffic yesterday. Serious,
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Speaker 2: So you're joining that guy on the list. You're also
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Speaker 2: on the list with jerks that out friends grandmothers for
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Speaker 2: passing gas. Those kind of guys are on that list
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Speaker 2: bone all right, Yeah, the feedback's not good for me.
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Speaker 1: On the text line, there was also.
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Speaker 4: Uh, there's also another guy that Willy was going after,
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Speaker 4: a MLS MLS Gone Wild podcast host who said city
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Speaker 4: should be allowed to host MLS All Star games that
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Speaker 4: they don't have, as you said, a soccer specific stadium.
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Speaker 2: So we got a couple of people be a jigger ry.
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Speaker 2: I don't understand what we got. More people, more fans
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Speaker 2: get a chance to shocking that Willies argued with MLS
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Speaker 2: Gone Wild. Shocking Shocking that Willy's arguing with anybody, isn't it?
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Speaker 2: CARBONI you de man, keep up the good work. Anything
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Speaker 2: specific on w CNC you want to plug.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, we've got our Hall of Fame game Slash
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Speaker 3: Luke Keikley Special a week from tonight, six thirty Thursday
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Speaker 3: Night from the Field in Canton, Ohio. Uh have gone
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Speaker 3: the last two trips with you know, Sam Mills and
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Speaker 3: Julius Peppers. Can't wait for this one. Man. Luke's getting
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Speaker 3: in and it's gonna be We're gonna have a lot
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Speaker 3: of great stuff. So that's next Thursday at six thirty
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Speaker 3: on WCNC.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Awesome. Keep up the good work, brother, thanks
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Speaker 1: for coming on you guys too.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, guys.