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- 0:54Speaker 2: Listen in, listen up. Woo, woo. Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
- 1:04Speaker 4: I have your favorite dynamic comedic duo that dabbles in
- 1:09Speaker 4: the absurdity of politics, the stars of Dumb Gay Politics podcast.
- 1:15Speaker 4: We have Julie Goldman and Brandi Howard. Welcome back to
- 1:18Speaker 4: Juicy Scoop, girls.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Good to see you. We've missed you.
- 1:22Speaker 1: I know.
- 1:22Speaker 4: And you missed a real fun weekend. And don't say
- 1:25Speaker 4: you weren't invited because I said, what are you doing Sunday?
- 1:29Speaker 2: Meet me in Palm Springs. That's true.
- 1:30Speaker 4: It's Modernism Week. And we got a table at Bar Issy.
- 1:35Speaker 4: We went to the Shag House. We went in an
- 1:38Speaker 4: old-fashioned car. And all I can think about is how
- 1:41Speaker 4: much both of you, how much Brandi would love the glam,
- 1:45Speaker 4: how much Julie would love the car, how much you
- 1:48Speaker 4: guys would both love the old-fashioned houses. And I'm like, sorry,
- 1:52Speaker 4: nerds doing taxes. Nerds being responsible.
- 1:57Speaker 2: It's true. Sorry. It is true.
- 2:00Speaker 5: And now we're leaving to Minneapolis and we'll not be
- 2:02Speaker 5: able to see you.
- 2:04Speaker 4: I wasn't going to brag about myself, but I mean,
- 2:07Speaker 4: here I am like looking so, like I walked out.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Of Mad Men. Of 1968. I love the people behind you.
- 2:17Speaker 2: It's so fabulous.
- 2:19Speaker 4: That was Roger Moore's house that now Martin Ballard has
- 2:23Speaker 4: owned and redone for a decade.
- 2:26Speaker 2: And he had an event there. No, we weren't invited
- 2:29Speaker 2: to that, though. Well, that one was Valentine's Day. Kidding.
- 2:33Speaker 2: I don't know. We know. But you look so good.
- 2:35Speaker 2: Just teasing you. But the next day was so good, too.
- 2:38Speaker 2: I know. I know.
- 2:39Speaker 6: I know.
- 2:39Speaker 2: I love this picture.
- 2:40Speaker 4: And then yesterday, I went on the double-decker bus with
- 2:45Speaker 4: Shannon and her pickleball friends.
- 2:47Speaker 2: How was it? I'm squeezing in on that friendship. And so, anyway,
- 2:55Speaker 2: really fun.
- 2:55Speaker 4: It was two and a half hours on the double-decker
- 2:57Speaker 4: bus because we thought it was going to rain and
- 2:59Speaker 4: it did not rain. Oh.
- 3:00Speaker 2: And it rained here. I loved it. It was like nostalgic.
- 3:06Speaker 2: It was fun.
- 3:06Speaker 4: But now for next year, like I know exactly the
- 3:10Speaker 4: events and things to do. Like there's a house you
- 3:14Speaker 4: can go into that's like up in the mountains.
- 3:18Speaker 2: That's a tour. And that one.
- 3:20Speaker 4: I want to go to. Like, I want to go, like,
- 3:23Speaker 4: now that I've done a couple things, I'm like, okay,
- 3:24Speaker 4: next year I can do Tumble. Because there's so many
- 3:27Speaker 4: things to choose from. Do you go in the houses
- 3:29Speaker 4: or do you just look at the outside? We went
- 3:30Speaker 4: into one of the houses and then there happened to
- 3:34Speaker 4: be two open houses on that street.
- 3:35Speaker 2: So it was like, those were free.
- 3:37Speaker 4: But then you, like, do a little tour where, like,
- 3:38Speaker 4: a volunteer, like, a persnickety gay guy is, like, knows
- 3:42Speaker 4: everything but is, like, a delight. We'll tell you everything,
- 3:45Speaker 4: how they did the house, they redid the house, blah, blah, blah.
- 3:48Speaker 4: And yeah, it's just like jam. I just want to
- 3:53Speaker 4: go back.
- 3:54Speaker 2: It's all.
- 3:54Speaker 4: And then they showed us where they filmed or took
- 3:57Speaker 4: the likeness for Don't Worry About It, Darling. Don't Worry Darling.
- 4:02Speaker 4: Don't Worry Darling, which is just like the one in
- 4:05Speaker 4: the Palm Springs where they each had like a different
- 4:08Speaker 4: colored door and a different colored car.
- 4:10Speaker 2: When they all.
- 4:11Speaker 4: The ending was weird, but the beginning of them living
- 4:14Speaker 4: in that 60s.
- 4:15Speaker 2: Style was just like heaven.
- 4:17Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 4:18Speaker 2: I love the inside of their houses in that movie, too.
- 4:20Speaker 2: I know. That, like, sunken living room. Well, now you know.
- 4:23Speaker 4: He has a sunken living room. And then, yeah.
- 4:26Speaker 2: You were in Roger Moore's house. How cool is that?
- 4:29Speaker 2: I know.
- 4:30Speaker 4: How cool is that? Roger Moore. Well, first of all,
- 4:34Speaker 4: we'll do something with Martin. On another night, just us.
- 4:37Speaker 5: Julie and I need to be with Martin to discuss
- 4:40Speaker 5: Erica Jane's pool area that he redid.
- 4:45Speaker 2: He has so much going on. He's going to do
- 4:46Speaker 2: a juicy scoop. I'm going to go to his house,
- 4:48Speaker 2: film it.
- 4:49Speaker 4: He's got big things, really big things coming out that
- 4:52Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm allowed to say.
- 4:53Speaker 2: Okay, so now let's just... It was Valentine's Day weekend.
- 4:58Speaker 4: But before we get into that, as of now, Nancy
- 5:01Speaker 4: Guthrie still has not been found.
- 5:04Speaker 2: And there's been some... weirder things to it.
- 5:10Speaker 4: One of the things that the TikTokers have brought up
- 5:13Speaker 4: and now even page six and other people are talking
- 5:15Speaker 4: about it is there was this one guy that was
- 5:18Speaker 4: like a neighbor that said, I don't know, like he
- 5:22Speaker 4: inserted himself into it and he's like, I don't know,
- 5:24Speaker 4: I would look at the brother-in-law or whatever. And One
- 5:28Speaker 4: of the photos from the cam, from the ring cam,
- 5:34Speaker 4: the person's wearing a glove and it looks like they
- 5:36Speaker 4: have a ring on. And so they noticed that guy
- 5:39Speaker 4: talking in the neighborhood to have a ring that would
- 5:42Speaker 4: look to.
- 5:42Speaker 2: Be that shape. I think it's a bit of a stretch.
- 5:45Speaker 4: I think if I had this ring on, it would
- 5:46Speaker 4: probably look like that under a glove, but I don't know.
- 5:49Speaker 2: And his ring was more like a medallion. I mean, geez,
- 5:54Speaker 2: you're going to just say that?
- 5:57Speaker 7: I'm not saying I was there, but if it was
- 6:00Speaker 7: my ring, I don't even know, Nancy.
- 6:02Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about.
- 6:04Speaker 4: I saw the video, and it's a flat. It's a flat,
- 6:07Speaker 4: like a medallion. Almost like a class ring, kind of
- 6:10Speaker 4: like a flat.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Like a men's royal ring.
- 6:12Speaker 4: Yes, where it had maybe slight writing on it and
- 6:15Speaker 4: kind of be thick gold.
- 6:16Speaker 2: Not a wedding ring. Yeah. Not a jewel. The guy
- 6:19Speaker 2: had a weird vibe, though.
- 6:21Speaker 5: Yeah. So between the ring kind of matching and then
- 6:24Speaker 5: him inserting himself and not only inserting himself, but then
- 6:26Speaker 5: saying it's the brother-in-law, you know, it was giving like
- 6:29Speaker 5: Idaho murders. Remember how that guy kind of couldn't keep
- 6:31Speaker 5: off the message boards?
- 6:32Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
- 6:33Speaker 4: Which is something that happens a lot where they show
- 6:36Speaker 4: up or they're the ones leading the search or whatever.
- 6:40Speaker 2: They're there at the vigil.
- 6:41Speaker 4: Then Harvey Levin, I saw four hours ago, one of
- 6:47Speaker 4: the news sources said, TMZ is going to stop reporting
- 6:51Speaker 4: on the tips that they get.
- 6:53Speaker 2: And then I opened the phone right before we were
- 6:55Speaker 2: about to record.
- 6:56Speaker 4: One hour ago, Harvey Levin, we've got a hot tip.
- 7:00Speaker 4: We got another letter from the person, why they keep
- 7:03Speaker 4: sending it there. He also said, now they think that
- 7:06Speaker 4: she might be in Mexico. Well, how did she get
- 7:10Speaker 4: in Mexico? Did they also take her passport? I mean,
- 7:13Speaker 4: the thing about it is she, you know, she's an
- 7:17Speaker 4: older woman. She doesn't have a distinct look.
- 7:22Speaker 2: You know, even if you put a wig on her glasses,
- 7:25Speaker 2: you wouldn't see.
- 7:26Speaker 4: Literally, I sent you a photo of a woman enjoying
- 7:31Speaker 4: our favorite salad at Portavia on El Paseo. And I said,
- 7:36Speaker 4: do you think Nancy just drove from Arizona to.
- 7:40Speaker 4: Palm Desert, just to get away. And is just enjoying
- 7:44Speaker 4: that dill salad, that port de vie salad.
- 7:47Speaker 5: But between your ring and you spotting her in Palm Desert,
- 7:50Speaker 5: it's becoming clearer and clearer.
- 7:52Speaker 2: Oh my God.
- 7:54Speaker 4: I mean, they also had a, I think an archbishop from,
- 7:59Speaker 4: I don't think he's the Catholic archbishop. Do they have
- 8:01Speaker 4: archbishops like in Episcopalian or?
- 8:05Speaker 2: Anyway, Presbyterian.
- 8:06Speaker 4: Anyway, somebody of high religious order prayed with the hosts
- 8:12Speaker 4: of the.
- 8:12Speaker 2: Today Show today.
- 8:13Speaker 4: Oh.
- 8:14Speaker 2: Oh, that's weird. And it is weird. That's weird.
- 8:18Speaker 4: There was another weird thing where another person discovered that.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Savannah's husband. And I know people are going to be like,
- 8:27Speaker 2: leave her alone. I don't care. This is Juicy Scoop.
- 8:29Speaker 2: This is all everyone's talking about. I'm going to tell
- 8:30Speaker 2: you the stuff that we found. I'm not accusing anybody.
- 8:33Speaker 4: I'm saying what people are putting together since nobody can
- 8:35Speaker 4: find her. And the other day they're like, oh, there
- 8:37Speaker 4: was a lot. There was even like something where I
- 8:39Speaker 4: saw like, oh, we found a dropped glove. Yeah.
- 8:43Speaker 2: Like, they're doing, like, OJ. Like, really? A dropped glove matches.
- 8:48Speaker 4: The DNA that touched the.
- 8:52Speaker 2: I don't even know. It's really weird. It's fucking weird.
- 8:57Speaker 2: And so they said, where is Savannah? Because... The sister
- 9:00Speaker 2: and the brother-in-law have been seen in Tucson.
- 9:02Speaker 4: Her husband, who did have a business with the Clintons,
- 9:08Speaker 4: who did have a company that was PR and for
- 9:13Speaker 4: politics called Gork or something like that.
- 9:16Speaker 2: So he is connected. She did interview Epstein victims at
- 9:21Speaker 2: a time.
- 9:23Speaker 4: She did write a book that in the book, someone
- 9:27Speaker 4: read a portion of the book that as children, her
- 9:30Speaker 4: cousin would kidnap she and her sister for fun and
- 9:34Speaker 4: take them away for three days and then the mom
- 9:36Speaker 4: would play along with it.
- 9:37Speaker 2: They'd be like, we have your daughters. And the mom
- 9:40Speaker 2: would play along with it. What?
- 9:42Speaker 4: It's in one of her memoirs or one of her
- 9:44Speaker 4: books about spirituality, Savannah.
- 9:46Speaker 2: Oh, because it's part of spirituality. Part of spirituality? Getting kidnapped.
- 9:50Speaker 6: Well, I.
- 9:52Speaker 2: I mean, we all talked about being kidnapped. We all
- 9:54Speaker 2: talked about, you know, you were adopted. Your older brother
- 9:58Speaker 2: would tell you you were adopted.
- 9:59Speaker 3: Whatever.
- 9:59Speaker 4: I not saying— I' m just saying all the weird things, okay?
- 10:02Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 10:03Speaker 4: The other one was when she did her video, she's
- 10:07Speaker 4: like sitting outside near like a succulent type of plant
- 10:11Speaker 4: that could be in North Hollywood.
- 10:14Speaker 2: It could be in Tucson. It could be whatever. Yeah.
- 10:18Speaker 4: And this girl goes, oh, there's a white stucco behind her.
- 10:21Speaker 4: But that's not the outside of Nancy's house, and that's
- 10:25Speaker 4: not the outside.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Of Annie's house.
- 10:27Speaker 4: Where is Savannah if she's not been spotted in Tucson
- 10:31Speaker 4: since this started? Not at a restaurant, not in front
- 10:34Speaker 4: of the house, not just in the little videos that
- 10:36Speaker 4: we've seen, one with the family and then one with
- 10:38Speaker 4: her alone, still thanking for prayers.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Could be an Airbnb. We don't know. I.
- 10:45Speaker 2: I'm just saying as we, this is the.
- 10:47Speaker 4: Only story that they're feeding us and we don't know
- 10:51Speaker 4: where this woman is. I'm helping trying to help find
- 10:54Speaker 4: her with my ring and my swaddling.
- 10:59Speaker 7: I honestly, this is the most confusing, bizarre, weird, shady.
- 11:08Speaker 7: I mean, it's like there's nothing to hold on to.
- 11:11Speaker 7: It's awful. It just makes me think of my own
- 11:14Speaker 7: mother if this were to happen to my own mother. Now,
- 11:16Speaker 7: I don't think someone would withstand my own mother. I
- 11:20Speaker 7: think if they came into the house and they tried anything,
- 11:22Speaker 7: I think her Jewish motherness would literally, they just wouldn't
- 11:27Speaker 7: be able to.
- 11:27Speaker 2: Like, what are you doing here? Lay on! Like, there
- 11:33Speaker 2: would be no way to withstand her. But, like, I don't.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Or she'd maybe be the type that would be like, Well,
- 11:39Speaker 2: what you should have done.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Yes, of course.
- 11:41Speaker 2: If you're going to do a proper kidnapping, what you
- 11:43Speaker 2: should have done. Exactly. And that's the photo you choose?
- 11:47Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah. You know, that's how you open a door?
- 11:50Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 11:51Speaker 2: That's how you open a door? No, I'm not. I can't.
- 11:53Speaker 2: You're exactly right. She would literally shame them.
- 11:57Speaker 7: I just feel so bad for Nancy. Like, whatever happened
- 12:02Speaker 7: to Nancy, I can't. I mean, I just, it's just awful.
- 12:05Speaker 2: It could just be one of those super bizarre things.
- 12:09Speaker 4: Or did they, it happened with, you know, it was
- 12:12Speaker 4: a very bizarre thing that happened with Elizabeth Smart, you know,
- 12:15Speaker 4: and she was found years later, not years, months later.
- 12:19Speaker 4: But I mean, we just don't know. There have been
- 12:22Speaker 4: weird things and we just hope that it's okay.
- 12:25Speaker 5: I just don't know the motive unless it's money, in
- 12:27Speaker 5: which case I would, you know, hope that they pay
- 12:31Speaker 5: the money and try to like.
- 12:33Speaker 2: Get her back.
- 12:34Speaker 7: Plus at this point too, every single thing on my
- 12:36Speaker 7: mind right now is so deep into Epstein that like
- 12:40Speaker 7: every single thing is connected.
- 12:42Speaker 2: Somehow connected. And I don't know how everything's connected. I
- 12:45Speaker 2: don't know what the theory is.
- 12:46Speaker 4: I don't have, I can't say this is what I
- 12:49Speaker 4: think because I don't know what it changes every day.
- 12:51Speaker 4: And I just think, um, you know, sometimes now when
- 12:55Speaker 4: things pass, And they're like, but we will pay you,
- 12:57Speaker 4: but it's Bitcoin. But why are you going to Harvey Levin?
- 13:00Speaker 4: And I just feel like, who knows? It's just at
- 13:03Speaker 4: a certain point. And then when does all of a
- 13:07Speaker 4: sudden they stop reporting on it?
- 13:11Speaker 2: Yeah. And the Bitcoin is... It's just all of it.
- 13:16Speaker 2: It's just all of it. It's just so weird. Even
- 13:19Speaker 2: at the beginning, when the first second it started, the sheriff,
- 13:24Speaker 2: they made such.
- 13:26Speaker 7: a huge listen and not that they shouldn't but people
- 13:29Speaker 7: get kidnapped and killed and there's a lot of horrible
- 13:31Speaker 7: things that happen to people every single day that go
- 13:34Speaker 7: under the radar are not reported or whatever and the level.
- 13:38Speaker 2: That they came out with this also seemed weird i.
- 13:41Speaker 4: Mean they just found uh 75 kids in la that
- 13:46Speaker 4: were being trafficked between the ages girls and boys 13
- 13:49Speaker 4: to 15 75 In just L.A.
- 13:55Speaker 2: So those kids were all missing. Those kids, nobody knew
- 13:57Speaker 2: where they were.
- 13:58Speaker 4: They still haven't arrested David, the singer, in the crime
- 14:03Speaker 4: where the girl was found.
- 14:04Speaker 2: In his Tesla.
- 14:05Speaker 1: Oh, right.
- 14:06Speaker 2: They haven't? Is he missing? Is he missing?
- 14:08Speaker 1: No.
- 14:09Speaker 2: He's just not arrested. Oh, I guess they know. They
- 14:11Speaker 2: just haven't arrested him yet. I don't know. Wow. Okay,
- 14:15Speaker 2: so it was, it was, look at, look who liked it,
- 14:20Speaker 2: by the way. I love it. In my photo that
- 14:22Speaker 2: I took.
- 14:22Speaker 6: Yes.
- 14:23Speaker 4: This is Portia, who is enjoying a lesbian love affair.
- 14:27Speaker 2: Love it. This Valentine's Day. Lesbian Valentine's. Lesbian Valentine's Day.
- 14:33Speaker 4: Which is a fun part is when they were in,
- 14:35Speaker 4: I think they were in Thailand or Vietnam, when they
- 14:38Speaker 4: did their ultimate girls trip. And she was there and
- 14:41Speaker 4: there was that cute guy who was the butler of
- 14:44Speaker 4: the house.
- 14:45Speaker 2: Yeah, that idiot Tyler.
- 14:46Speaker 6: And they kept.
- 14:46Speaker 2: Showing that clip. Yeah, Pepsi or whatever his dumbass name is.
- 14:49Speaker 2: He was a tool. And he says, you're going to
- 14:51Speaker 2: be a lesbian. And she goes, what? He's like, you're
- 14:53Speaker 2: going to be a lesbian. And they show that. And
- 14:55Speaker 2: then anyway, now she's a lesbian. I don't remember that.
- 14:57Speaker 2: I don't remember any of that.
- 14:59Speaker 4: He might have been saying something else, but it sounds
- 15:02Speaker 4: like that. And people have made it like funny because
- 15:04Speaker 4: now she is.
- 15:05Speaker 2: In love. Happy lesbian day, Portia. This is quite a to-do.
- 15:11Speaker 2: It was, you would have thought it was an engagement,
- 15:14Speaker 2: a wedding. This must have cost $ 50, 000 to $ 60, 000.
- 15:17Speaker 4: And she got a fancy Birkin from her girlfriend.
- 15:23Speaker 2: It was people filming it and walking around. And I'm like,
- 15:27Speaker 2: the production that these.
- 15:29Speaker 4: influencer reality stars do to show the world that i'm
- 15:33Speaker 4: in love like it makes me feel like if i
- 15:36Speaker 4: was to do that like i like you guys should
- 15:39Speaker 4: recreate it i would be buying my all my own
- 15:41Speaker 4: gifts and then i'd be like peter just get up
- 15:43Speaker 4: from the from the chair peter come.
- 15:45Speaker 2: On and then i'd be like okay because then.
- 15:54Speaker 4: Brie, who is one of nine baby mamas and selling
- 15:58Speaker 4: Sunset Realtor with Nick Cannon.
- 16:04Speaker 2: Someone argues she might be number one. I don't know.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Someone argues she's between two and three.
- 16:09Speaker 4: Many of the girls did elaborate Christmas card photo shoots
- 16:14Speaker 4: that they all shared on Instagram. I think four to
- 16:16Speaker 4: five of them did it. He participated in all of them.
- 16:19Speaker 2: Good for him.
- 16:20Speaker 4: So then this girl, Brie, was like, oh, no. I
- 16:23Speaker 4: know we all did Christmas. I'm going to get you
- 16:25Speaker 4: on Valentine's Day. And he's wearing a Phantom of the
- 16:29Speaker 4: Opera mask. So at first I was like, maybe she
- 16:31Speaker 4: just got an actor. Maybe she just got somebody to
- 16:33Speaker 4: shove it in the other baby mama's face. But then
- 16:37Speaker 4: the more I looked, and then someone's like in the comments, wow,
- 16:41Speaker 4: he did a great job.
- 16:42Speaker 2: Did he do it all himself?
- 16:43Speaker 4: And she wrote, my planner helped. And then people are like, yeah.
- 16:46Speaker 4: And like, you know, imagine the person that has to
- 16:48Speaker 4: take the photo now.
- 16:49Speaker 2: Act surprised.
- 16:50Speaker 4: As you're walking in, oh, here's the watch. And this
- 16:53Speaker 4: is where I was like, because he's wearing the head wrap,
- 16:57Speaker 4: and then I do think this is him.
- 16:58Speaker 2: I do think he came for this.
- 17:00Speaker 4: So then she had to show off her watch. I
- 17:03Speaker 4: got this watch, and I'm acting super surprised. And then,
- 17:07Speaker 4: cheers to love yours in every lifetime.
- 17:12Speaker 2: This last thing that looks like you could do a
- 17:14Speaker 2: line of cocaine off that. It looks like it's all
- 17:16Speaker 2: in cocaine. If only. And also, hey. Just so you
- 17:19Speaker 2: know to the other girls.
- 17:19Speaker 1: Hey.
- 17:20Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 17:21Speaker 2: Cheers to love, okay?
- 17:23Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 17:23Speaker 2: Cheers to love. There's nothing more romantic than what I
- 17:26Speaker 2: would feel so romanticized by than if you looked me
- 17:29Speaker 2: in the eye and said, cheers to love.
- 17:32Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 17:32Speaker 2: You know what I mean? That really... Cheers to love. Hey,
- 17:35Speaker 2: cheers to love. Hey, everyone, cheers to love.
- 17:39Speaker 4: Beautiful.
- 17:40Speaker 2: This was great. I'm stuffed.
- 17:42Speaker 3: Yep.
- 17:43Speaker 4: I have two other Valentine situations I have to get to.
- 17:47Speaker 2: I have to just change my jacket.
- 17:48Speaker 4: Yep.
- 17:49Speaker 3: And.
- 17:50Speaker 4: I haven't seen any other girls do this, so I
- 17:52Speaker 4: think she might have been the one to beat him
- 17:55Speaker 4: to the punch.
- 17:55Speaker 2: She might have even done this on the 13th.
- 17:56Speaker 4: To get it out.
- 18:00Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 18:01Speaker 5: Do we think he's still currently making love to like
- 18:04Speaker 5: at least half of those girls?
- 18:05Speaker 2: Because Valentine's is, this would imply they.
- 18:08Speaker 5: Are still romantically involved as opposed to co-parenting.
- 18:13Speaker 2: I think she has more fun. shoving this stuff in
- 18:16Speaker 2: the other.
- 18:16Speaker 4: Baby mama's faces and letting the, and having the world
- 18:20Speaker 4: have more followers and having the world be like, we're
- 18:22Speaker 4: rooting for you.
- 18:23Speaker 2: Like it's a contest.
- 18:24Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 18:25Speaker 2: You're going to be the one in the end, you know,
- 18:27Speaker 2: or whatever. I don't know. I find it very entertaining
- 18:30Speaker 2: to watch. I have to say.
- 18:32Speaker 4: The Instagram wars of the baby mamas of Nick Cannon.
- 18:35Speaker 4: It could be a whole reality show on its own.
- 18:37Speaker 2: He could do The Bachelor, but he's The Bachelor with
- 18:39Speaker 2: all of his. All of his own. with all of
- 18:42Speaker 2: his baby mamas, you know? And it's like, who gets
- 18:44Speaker 2: the rose? Cheers to love. That's hilarious. Cheers to love.
- 18:46Speaker 2: And that's the name of the show.
- 18:47Speaker 7: Cheers to love with Nick Cannon. I mean, he is
- 18:51Speaker 7: giving the men who have sister wives... Like a tutorial,
- 18:55Speaker 7: I will say.
- 18:56Speaker 2: He is showing up.
- 18:57Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 18:58Speaker 2: And those guys, I mean, look at Cody. Yeah, Cody
- 18:59Speaker 2: cannot do four Christmas cards and look where he ended up. Exactly.
- 19:03Speaker 2: But here's Nick Cannon with 13 kids and how many women?
- 19:06Speaker 4: And each girl is gorgeous and put together and seems
- 19:09Speaker 4: to have her own thing going on.
- 19:10Speaker 7: And he seems to know all of his kids' names
- 19:13Speaker 7: and loves them.
- 19:14Speaker 2: So who are we to judge? Right. They're all so happy.
- 19:20Speaker 3: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
- 19:22Speaker 3: know about the drawer. The drawer. Just the one square
- 19:28Speaker 3: before bed. Or two, you know. Nobody's watching.
- 19:34Speaker 2: You deserve a treat.
- 19:38Speaker 3: With eight flavours to choose from, you can choose the
- 19:41Speaker 3: flavour you favour with Cadbury Dairy Milk.
- 19:50Speaker 6: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
- 19:53Speaker 6: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
- 19:56Speaker 6: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
- 20:00Speaker 6: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
- 20:03Speaker 2: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
- 20:07Speaker 2: the Emmys, and I have police complaints filed against me.
- 20:10Speaker 2: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
- 20:12Speaker 2: what would you do if it was given back?
- 20:14Speaker 6: Where did that need come from where you thought that
- 20:17Speaker 6: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
- 20:20Speaker 2: He said, I have a work dad.
- 20:21Speaker 8: I need a home dad.
- 20:22Speaker 2: What happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
- 20:24Speaker 6: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
- 20:29Speaker 6: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
- 20:32Speaker 6: happens next.
- 20:33Speaker 2: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
- 20:35Speaker 2: every day was. You're worth the work. Listen, Dara, I'm
- 20:38Speaker 2: not going to pull punches. You can use your voice
- 20:40Speaker 2: even if it's shaped.
- 20:41Speaker 6: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
- 20:45Speaker 6: Only one question matters. What happens next?
- 20:56Speaker 4: I was at a party with a fabulous gay man
- 20:59Speaker 4: and I'm married to a straight man that I didn't bring.
- 21:02Speaker 2: I brought my sister.
- 21:04Speaker 4: Her husband said, go, go ahead with your sister. So
- 21:07Speaker 4: I brought my life partner, my sister, and we had fun.
- 21:10Speaker 4: Then I was like, oh my gosh, it's reality checks
- 21:14Speaker 4: inside America's next top model. It was a three-part little
- 21:20Speaker 4: series on Netflix, which now- I mean, now everybody, listen,
- 21:26Speaker 4: network execs are like, what horrific reality show did we
- 21:30Speaker 4: think was normal 15 to 20 years ago?
- 21:33Speaker 2: And how can.
- 21:35Speaker 4: We reuse all that footage and have a couple of
- 21:38Speaker 4: the old stars come on to talk about how they
- 21:40Speaker 4: were awful? And then we've got a three-part series. I mean,
- 21:43Speaker 4: they're I'm ready for Rock of Love. I'm ready for
- 21:47Speaker 4: New York.
- 21:48Speaker 5: Yep.
- 21:49Speaker 2: I'm ready for.
- 21:49Speaker 4: Who was the guy that had the big clock on his.
- 21:52Speaker 2: Flavor of Love. Flavor of Love. I'm ready for Surreal Life.
- 21:55Speaker 2: Surreal Life. Surreal Life. There's so many more that we
- 21:58Speaker 2: can do from the era. The Swan. Where are they today?
- 22:03Speaker 2: What's the Hot or Not? What's that one we were
- 22:05Speaker 2: talking about? That was a very short one. Yeah. Where
- 22:08Speaker 2: Lorenzo Lamas had a laser. Lorenzo Lamas.
- 22:11Speaker 3: Yes.
- 22:11Speaker 2: And they found a squirt of fat.
- 22:13Speaker 1: Ugh.
- 22:13Speaker 4: So this show, this was good because I would watch it,
- 22:17Speaker 4: but I wasn't like, you know, watching it all the time.
- 22:21Speaker 4: And what it was for those that don't know is,
- 22:25Speaker 4: you know, Tyra Banks was a top model. She had
- 22:27Speaker 4: a great idea for a show, kind of like an
- 22:29Speaker 4: American Idol meets like, you know, Surreal World.
- 22:33Speaker 2: Or Real World. Survivor.
- 22:34Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 22:35Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 22:35Speaker 4: Where they're going to take girls who have no experience
- 22:39Speaker 4: in modeling and put them through what it would be
- 22:42Speaker 4: if they were to become a top model. However, what
- 22:45Speaker 4: I realized in the series is none of them did.
- 22:49Speaker 4: None of them became, Adrian Curry had some other opportunities,
- 22:54Speaker 4: but nobody became like a real model where you'd open
- 22:57Speaker 4: it at and you're like, oh, this, the girl, the
- 23:00Speaker 4: girl that got the cover girl ad is a season
- 23:02Speaker 4: four winner.
- 23:03Speaker 2: Like not one. Only Ava Marcel is arguably the most successful. Definitely.
- 23:08Speaker 2: But not as a model. Right. She went on to
- 23:10Speaker 2: do more reality shows and she's stunning.
- 23:12Speaker 4: A lot of the girls are really pretty, but it
- 23:15Speaker 4: was just like the swan when the swans would leave
- 23:19Speaker 4: and go back to their job at the, you know,
- 23:21Speaker 4: at the whatever the ice cream shop, they couldn't afford
- 23:24Speaker 4: to keep in their hair extensions. Yes.
- 23:27Speaker 2: And everything.
- 23:28Speaker 4: And then the face would start to, the filler would
- 23:31Speaker 4: go down. And then they were just left with like
- 23:33Speaker 4: big chompers and holes in their hair.
- 23:37Speaker 2: It's like you can't keep it up. This was very interesting,
- 23:41Speaker 2: I thought.
- 23:42Speaker 5: And they are going to probably do all the other shows, right?
- 23:44Speaker 5: Because it's reality checked.
- 23:46Speaker 6: Yes.
- 23:46Speaker 2: Inside. I'm sure.
- 23:48Speaker 4: We're just going to remind it of that there was
- 23:51Speaker 4: an entire different species of horrible people that made TV
- 23:55Speaker 4: and watched it.
- 23:56Speaker 2: But it was only 15 years ago. And that we
- 23:58Speaker 2: were a part of that.
- 23:59Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 24:00Speaker 2: We were all totally a part of it. We made it.
- 24:02Speaker 2: We watched it. We were in it.
- 24:04Speaker 5: And it's just like the recent past. And it is
- 24:07Speaker 5: absolutely horrifying. Horrifying.
- 24:10Speaker 2: I mean, deeply. It was like. Unbelievable. You'd think it
- 24:13Speaker 2: was like from 1991. But it wasn't. Julie's upset about
- 24:15Speaker 2: the girl who. did not give implicit consent.
- 24:20Speaker 5: And I'm upset about the amount of jeans and like,
- 24:23Speaker 5: you know, color blocking tops. I was like, if I
- 24:26Speaker 5: see one more fucking set of jeans and like a
- 24:28Speaker 5: V-neck like.
- 24:29Speaker 2: Top, I was horrified.
- 24:32Speaker 4: The low rider jeans. I, when I would watch it
- 24:37Speaker 4: back in the day, I probably related most to Janice Dickinson.
- 24:42Speaker 2: I'll admit it.
- 24:43Speaker 4: I was like, these, these girls are, are not pretty
- 24:47Speaker 4: enough to be models. I understand why they chose them.
- 24:49Speaker 4: They chose them because it was a reality show. So
- 24:52Speaker 4: we wanted emotion. We wanted a weird story. We wanted
- 24:55Speaker 4: to see if they would fight together and maybe we
- 24:58Speaker 4: could do them with some blonde hair.
- 25:01Speaker 2: But a lot of them, no.
- 25:03Speaker 4: Like, I mean, I tried to be a model one day.
- 25:06Speaker 4: One day, I had a real cousin who was a
- 25:10Speaker 4: real model.
- 25:11Speaker 2: A real cousin.
- 25:12Speaker 4: A real cousin who was a real model. Like a
- 25:14Speaker 4: real model, went to New York, went to Europe, all
- 25:16Speaker 4: the whole thing. And she was stunning. And actually we
- 25:20Speaker 4: were not blood related, which I should have listened to
- 25:23Speaker 4: that part more.
- 25:24Speaker 2: But anyway, turns out she's not a real cousin. I mean,
- 25:27Speaker 2: I guess she's not a real cousin. She was a neighbor.
- 25:30Speaker 2: She was stunning.
- 25:33Speaker 4: You know, back then she had a perfect nose when
- 25:35Speaker 4: you couldn't buy a perfect nose. She had perfect teeth
- 25:38Speaker 4: when you couldn't buy perfect teeth. So it's, you know,
- 25:41Speaker 4: and she said, you know, you're tall and you're thin enough.
- 25:44Speaker 4: You should just go and do a go see. She's like,
- 25:46Speaker 4: Just take some photos of yourself, like in a bathing
- 25:49Speaker 4: suit and different looks and go on a Monday to
- 25:51Speaker 4: all the places in LA. There's a way you can
- 25:54Speaker 4: get the list. So once one Monday between the summer
- 25:58Speaker 4: of freshman and sophomore year.
- 26:00Speaker 2: Did you take the bikini shots? I did. My sister
- 26:02Speaker 2: took them, you know, on the beach and everything.
- 26:05Speaker 4: And I wore a black dress and heels and got
- 26:09Speaker 4: as cute as I could get. And now all these
- 26:11Speaker 4: other girls had the big books, but back then those
- 26:13Speaker 4: big books would.
- 26:14Speaker 2: Cost $ 800.
- 26:15Speaker 4: $ 1, 000 to do. So I was like, let's just see
- 26:19Speaker 4: if somebody wants me, then maybe I'll pay for the
- 26:21Speaker 4: big book. Every person rejected me. One person said, okay,
- 26:25Speaker 4: I'll see you walk. So then I walked and they said,
- 26:28Speaker 4: you do have a good walk, but you would have
- 26:31Speaker 4: to get professional photos for us to even think about
- 26:34Speaker 4: you again.
- 26:35Speaker 2: And- Then that was it. I thought that's it. It's
- 26:39Speaker 2: an expensive thing to pursue. Back in the day.
- 26:42Speaker 4: Now you can just go on Instagram and do it
- 26:44Speaker 4: yourself and be all different shapes and sizes.
- 26:46Speaker 2: But there you really like, you know, had to have
- 26:48Speaker 2: a perfect profile. You know, you've modeled, you've acted. Julie's
- 26:52Speaker 2: slept her way- To the top, maybe. Right, yes.
- 26:55Speaker 4: And Brandy has legit done modeling and stuff because she has,
- 26:59Speaker 4: you know, a perfect face and a good nose.
- 27:01Speaker 2: Oh, that's so nice. I mean, I lived in Japan
- 27:03Speaker 2: alone when I was 15.
- 27:05Speaker 5: So I'm just like thanking God that I was too
- 27:07Speaker 5: much of a bitch to be messed with, I guess.
- 27:11Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 27:11Speaker 5: I mean, I did a lot of dubious auditions and
- 27:15Speaker 5: I would leave thinking- I wonder where that tape's going
- 27:17Speaker 5: to end up. But I never ended up being like,
- 27:20Speaker 5: I mean, I probably would have like done a casting
- 27:22Speaker 5: couch thing. I was pretty into like trying to book stuff.
- 27:25Speaker 5: Nobody ever tried. I've been like, well, what is it
- 27:28Speaker 5: going to take?
- 27:29Speaker 2: With this show?
- 27:30Speaker 6: Um, yeah.
- 27:31Speaker 4: So, so one of the more disturbing, the most disturbing thing. Now,
- 27:35Speaker 4: what did you think about, first of all, what did
- 27:36Speaker 4: you think about Tyra doing it in her detective trench coat?
- 27:41Speaker 2: Why is she wearing a detective trench coat?
- 27:43Speaker 5: First and foremost, we came up with America's Next Top P.I.
- 27:48Speaker 5: And the panel is Tyra in the middle in all
- 27:51Speaker 5: different trench coats each week.
- 27:53Speaker 2: Then we have— Bo Deedle. He'll be on the panel. Heather, okay.
- 27:58Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 27:58Speaker 2: We have Bo Dietl. Bo Dietl, that's amazing. Dog the
- 28:01Speaker 2: Bounty Hunter.
- 28:02Speaker 5: Yes.
- 28:02Speaker 2: I love it. Okay. And then Nancy Grace. Now that's
- 28:06Speaker 2: your next show as they find the next. You're welcome.
- 28:10Speaker 2: You're welcome. You're welcome.
- 28:12Speaker 4: Okay.
- 28:13Speaker 2: You know, like, I thought it was interesting that she
- 28:16Speaker 2: did it. I think she did it because.
- 28:19Speaker 4: they're going to do it with or without you.
- 28:20Speaker 2: So you might as well do it.
- 28:22Speaker 4: And she probably already saw that people were attacking her
- 28:26Speaker 4: because people look back and everyone on TikTok is 23
- 28:28Speaker 4: and have souls. And they're like, why the fuck are,
- 28:31Speaker 4: were people so horrible back then? And so she's like,
- 28:34Speaker 4: I need to explain where I'm coming from. So I
- 28:37Speaker 4: thought she came off honestly.
- 28:39Speaker 6: Okay.
- 28:39Speaker 2: I know she's getting a lot of Christmas. I think
- 28:40Speaker 2: she came off. Okay.
- 28:42Speaker 4: Um, You know, and then when we get to when
- 28:46Speaker 4: they end, I just want to go to that part.
- 28:49Speaker 4: So there's the three people that were the regulars. There
- 28:52Speaker 4: was Janice Dixon who did not participate in it.
- 28:54Speaker 2: I wish she would have, though, because she is the
- 28:56Speaker 2: absolute best on the planet.
- 28:58Speaker 4: And she pops up now and again through social media. But,
- 29:00Speaker 4: you know, probably because she doesn't look the way she
- 29:04Speaker 4: looked then.
- 29:05Speaker 2: And people are very critical of that. That's true. And
- 29:07Speaker 2: she was critical of people's looks.
- 29:08Speaker 4: Right. She came on my show and she was a
- 29:10Speaker 4: fucking hoot. And she wrote a great book, too. No
- 29:15Speaker 4: Lifeguard on Duty. It's a great memoir about the business.
- 29:20Speaker 4: If you want, if you like memoirs about- And we
- 29:21Speaker 4: like her. We've met her, hung out with her several times.
- 29:24Speaker 2: Oh yeah, totally. That's where I met her.
- 29:26Speaker 4: So there's Miss J, who was this black gay guy
- 29:33Speaker 4: who taught models how to walk. And she thought, let's
- 29:36Speaker 4: have him do it.
- 29:38Speaker 2: And so entertaining.
- 29:40Speaker 4: So he's on it talking about his experience then there
- 29:43Speaker 4: was jay emmanuel who was was he her makeup artist
- 29:48Speaker 4: or a clothing stylist so she picked him up and
- 29:51Speaker 4: then she got this photographer which i couldn't figure out
- 29:54Speaker 4: was the photographer straight or.
- 29:55Speaker 2: Gay and They were saying he was straight.
- 29:57Speaker 5: They added him later because they wanted a straight, white,
- 30:00Speaker 5: hot guy.
- 30:01Speaker 4: Okay.
- 30:01Speaker 2: But he might not be any of those.
- 30:03Speaker 5: Well, I never knew the entirety of the show, all
- 30:05Speaker 5: 27 cycles, that he was ever straight.
- 30:09Speaker 2: You never thought?
- 30:09Speaker 5: I had no idea that Nigel or whatever was straight.
- 30:12Speaker 5: I always thought he was gay the whole time.
- 30:14Speaker 4: Okay, so then the juicy part is Jay goes on
- 30:19Speaker 4: to say, you know, at a certain point.
- 30:25Speaker 4: And they call it cycle instead of seasons because they
- 30:27Speaker 4: were doing two seasons or two cycles per year. So
- 30:30Speaker 4: it had gone on now for like nine, 10 years.
- 30:33Speaker 4: And Jay's like, I just don't think we've done it all.
- 30:35Speaker 4: We're doing really weird stuff now. We're showing, we're going
- 30:38Speaker 4: to do a shoot where you guys were all tragically murdered.
- 30:41Speaker 4: And we know that your mom was shot in the
- 30:43Speaker 4: head by her boyfriend. So we're going to show you
- 30:45Speaker 4: shot in the head. I mean, it was really, so he,
- 30:47Speaker 4: I don't know if that had to do with it
- 30:49Speaker 4: or just someone becoming you know, complacent in what they're
- 30:52Speaker 4: doing and just kind of like, is this all there is?
- 30:55Speaker 4: And I, you know, maybe I haven't gotten the raise
- 30:57Speaker 4: I want. Maybe I have a couple of people in
- 30:58Speaker 4: my ear saying you could have your own show. So
- 31:00Speaker 4: he does write Tyra an email saying like, I loved it,
- 31:06Speaker 4: but I'm going to move on. And then he was like,
- 31:11Speaker 4: and then I don't hear back for her for two days.
- 31:14Speaker 4: And then all she writes is I'm disappointed. I never
- 31:17Speaker 4: hear from her. But then when we sit down to film, I'm,
- 31:19Speaker 4: we're laughing and filming and everything again. And he's just like,
- 31:23Speaker 4: and I have to say, I'm on team Tyra on
- 31:25Speaker 4: this one. Like you, you wrote that you didn't want
- 31:28Speaker 4: to do it. She's totally bummed about it.
- 31:31Speaker 2: Same.
- 31:31Speaker 4: And you, you said you wanted out. So then what
- 31:35Speaker 4: I think happened. So then they all go on a,
- 31:38Speaker 4: remember this show, showbiz tonight.
- 31:40Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
- 31:41Speaker 2: Exclusive.
- 31:42Speaker 4: They all go on the show because after Jay says that,
- 31:46Speaker 4: but he still, I guess has one year left on
- 31:48Speaker 4: his contract or one cycle left. Then, Tyra and the
- 31:52Speaker 4: EP claim that their bosses said, the show's dipped a lot,
- 31:56Speaker 4: let's do a whole new, fresh panel. So they get
- 32:00Speaker 4: let go, and they think that she's put out the
- 32:03Speaker 4: thing to Page Six that they were fired.
- 32:05Speaker 2: So then they go on Showbiz Tonight. Now, this wasn't
- 32:07Speaker 2: in the doc. This is the Juicy Scoop.
- 32:10Speaker 4: Well, no, this part, well, they insinuate how did it
- 32:13Speaker 4: get into Page Six.
- 32:15Speaker 2: Okay, I don't remember seeing this. That they were fired. Yeah,
- 32:16Speaker 2: they say that. Like, they definitely think it's her. And...
- 32:20Speaker 2: She is like, I didn't have the say. It was
- 32:24Speaker 2: the network.
- 32:25Speaker 4: Yes, I'm the EP, but the network is the one
- 32:27Speaker 4: that's like, we need a fresh thing, which I kind
- 32:29Speaker 4: of believe her.
- 32:30Speaker 2: I do believe her. And also, you already said you
- 32:32Speaker 2: wanted to leave.
- 32:33Speaker 4: So I think if anybody should be mad at anybody,
- 32:36Speaker 4: it should be the two guys, Miss J and Nigel,
- 32:40Speaker 4: should be mad at J. Because J is the one
- 32:43Speaker 4: that started the crumble by leaving.
- 32:46Speaker 2: And so then they were probably like, probably went.
- 32:48Speaker 4: Tyra went and said, hey, you guys, just so you know,
- 32:50Speaker 4: Jay wrote me and he's going to leave.
- 32:52Speaker 2: This is going to be his last cycle. Then they
- 32:54Speaker 2: were probably like, wait a minute.
- 32:56Speaker 4: Maybe it's time that we shake it up, do something new,
- 33:01Speaker 4: get a bunch of people that we can pay $ 2 to.
- 33:03Speaker 2: That's what I think happened. Like, why didn't Jake? They
- 33:07Speaker 2: were so close. They were such good friends.
- 33:09Speaker 7: And we don't know exactly what happened so far.
- 33:11Speaker 2: So we're theorizing.
- 33:12Speaker 7: From what it seems to me, from watching it and him,
- 33:15Speaker 7: since there's huge holes in his story, And she never
- 33:18Speaker 7: acknowledges any of it and doesn't want to talk about it. Like,
- 33:21Speaker 7: why didn't you go to her? Why did you send
- 33:23Speaker 7: her an email? Why didn't you talk to her? Why
- 33:25Speaker 7: didn't you sit down with her? Why didn't you say,
- 33:26Speaker 7: I'm unhappy? Why didn't you say, what can we do?
- 33:28Speaker 7: Why didn't you work together? You dropped an email and
- 33:32Speaker 7: you said, I'm leaving. And you basically just also- And
- 33:36Speaker 7: blindsided her.
- 33:37Speaker 2: Right, exactly.
- 33:38Speaker 7: And then also like, that's shitty to do to your friend.
- 33:40Speaker 7: You guys were literally friends. And now you're the victim.
- 33:44Speaker 7: In addition to, there is nothing- that drives me crazier
- 33:48Speaker 7: than when someone quits a successful show. I cannot stand it.
- 33:53Speaker 7: I don't care if it's, if it's Juliana Margulies. Yeah,
- 33:56Speaker 7: and she's the only one who then went on and
- 33:58Speaker 7: did The Good Wife, and.
- 33:59Speaker 2: She was lucky. But you are an asshole.
- 34:02Speaker 7: You leave a show, you're making money, you're on TV,
- 34:06Speaker 7: you're getting everything you want, and I get it. Creatively,
- 34:09Speaker 7: you want to maybe work, do something, have a conversation.
- 34:12Speaker 7: Talk to somebody honestly. Have it, but like now, look
- 34:15Speaker 7: where you are now.
- 34:16Speaker 4: Or go and say, is it possible that I could do,
- 34:22Speaker 4: could we in the next project make it that I
- 34:24Speaker 4: could do this other project?
- 34:26Speaker 2: Something, like whatever.
- 34:28Speaker 4: But once you send an email, she got sent this email.
- 34:32Speaker 4: She probably immediately sent it to the executives and also
- 34:36Speaker 4: her lawyers because she's like, I have a hot potato.
- 34:39Speaker 2: There's nothing, if I try to.
- 34:40Speaker 4: Convince him to stay, then I could put myself in
- 34:43Speaker 4: legal jeopardy.
- 34:44Speaker 2: So he's the one that wrote, he put it in writing.
- 34:47Speaker 2: He didn't say it over drinks.
- 34:48Speaker 5: That's what I said. I was like, they should have
- 34:51Speaker 5: sat down to dinner. I feel like it always comes
- 34:53Speaker 5: back to money. Like sit down and be like, we
- 34:56Speaker 5: created these characters on your show. Like Miss J and
- 35:00Speaker 5: J created these characters. And then even Nigel that were
- 35:04Speaker 5: then taken and recreated all over the world. Like Germany's
- 35:07Speaker 5: Next Top Model, you know, all these places. But they
- 35:11Speaker 5: didn't use any of them. And I don't believe they
- 35:13Speaker 5: were getting a cut of the show. So if he
- 35:14Speaker 5: would have just sat down and even if she had said,
- 35:17Speaker 5: I can't control that or I can't give you 1%
- 35:20Speaker 5: or I can't guarantee residuals. Then at that point, it
- 35:22Speaker 5: is what it is. And he didn't blindside her and
- 35:25Speaker 5: they could have stayed friends. I mean, he acted like
- 35:27Speaker 5: they were closer than like brother and sister even.
- 35:29Speaker 4: I mean, also, I think sometimes you're doing a show
- 35:31Speaker 4: and you are really clicky and really fun and you
- 35:34Speaker 4: have all this fun. But then you're like, okay, well,
- 35:37Speaker 4: you can't do the show anymore, and the show is big,
- 35:39Speaker 4: and she's in a position. I just feel like everyone
- 35:43Speaker 4: always is so quick to just be like, you're Cruella DeVille.
- 35:47Speaker 4: You're the devil wears product.
- 35:48Speaker 2: Of course, but it's a woman.
- 35:49Speaker 4: You're the woman, and you're an awful person, and we
- 35:52Speaker 4: were besties. I was your gay bestie, and now you
- 35:55Speaker 4: threw me off the bus.
- 35:57Speaker 2: What am I supposed to do?
- 35:59Speaker 4: And I think it's happened so much, and I think immediately,
- 36:03Speaker 4: The fans rally around the underling and always just think that, oh,
- 36:09Speaker 4: you know, that's so sad. I'm like, you wrote an
- 36:11Speaker 4: email saying you didn't want to do the show anymore.
- 36:13Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
- 36:14Speaker 2: You didn't go to your friend.
- 36:14Speaker 7: And not to mention the fact, I'm also not having
- 36:18Speaker 7: it from the same guy who we watched tell girls
- 36:21Speaker 7: over and over again just to deal with it when
- 36:23Speaker 7: you're being groped. and when you're being made uncomfortable, and
- 36:27Speaker 7: when you don't wanna do something, or you, and fine,
- 36:29Speaker 7: I get it, they're models, you have to wear what
- 36:31Speaker 7: you're gonna do. But there comes a point, and I
- 36:33Speaker 7: don't care, this was not 1987, this was 2008. She
- 36:38Speaker 7: went to you in front of everyone and said, I'm
- 36:40Speaker 7: uncomfortable with this guy.
- 36:42Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 36:43Speaker 7: And I don't appreciate it. And he said, just what?
- 36:45Speaker 7: Nothing's going to happen to you. And she's had to
- 36:47Speaker 7: stand there and cry while that guy groped her in
- 36:50Speaker 7: front of everyone.
- 36:51Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's you, Jay. So how about that, Jay?
- 36:54Speaker 4: And basically what happened is there was a an incident
- 36:58Speaker 4: where they invite these guys over from a shoot. They
- 37:01Speaker 4: get them in the jacuzzi and all the girls are
- 37:02Speaker 4: drinking and they weigh two pounds.
- 37:03Speaker 2: They have one glass of wine and they're wasted.
- 37:06Speaker 4: And one guy's hitting on this girl, Shondi, and she
- 37:10Speaker 4: had a very serious boyfriend.
- 37:14Speaker 2: And they have sex. Yeah, and they record it. And
- 37:17Speaker 2: they have sex.
- 37:18Speaker 4: And then they go, well, the rule was if they
- 37:22Speaker 4: go alone in the bathroom and shut the door, we
- 37:25Speaker 4: can't follow them in. But if they go in with
- 37:27Speaker 4: anybody else, then it's a story that we can film.
- 37:30Speaker 4: So they film the fact that they took a shower
- 37:32Speaker 4: together and that they.
- 37:34Speaker 2: Wake up in the same bed together.
- 37:36Speaker 4: And so she's just horrified and calls her boyfriend, breaks
- 37:41Speaker 4: up with the boyfriend. And, you know, and she doesn't
- 37:44Speaker 4: go on, I think, to pursue any kind of like modeling. And.
- 37:49Speaker 7: That's another thing that they all did, though, too. It's like,
- 37:51Speaker 7: that's fine. She was flirting, and she has to take
- 37:53Speaker 7: some accountability for her actions. But at the same time,
- 37:56Speaker 7: you saw that she was blacked out drunk. You saw
- 37:58Speaker 7: that she was so drunk that she's probably not making
- 38:01Speaker 7: good decisions. And so y'all stood there behind your cameras,
- 38:04Speaker 7: and you filmed it. And you allowed a man to
- 38:06Speaker 7: have sex with her in front of you, and none
- 38:09Speaker 7: of you did anything about it. And then you doubled down,
- 38:13Speaker 7: and you blamed her. And then you went and said,
- 38:16Speaker 7: guess you shouldn't have cheated on your boyfriend. yes, you
- 38:18Speaker 7: should have eaten something.
- 38:19Speaker 5: And they also said they wouldn't give her her phone
- 38:21Speaker 5: and they wouldn't let her call anyone. And she was like,
- 38:23Speaker 5: then I'm going home. And then they're like, okay, you
- 38:25Speaker 5: can call, but we have to film it.
- 38:26Speaker 2: Right.
- 38:27Speaker 5: To not even give someone a a phone. But you
- 38:29Speaker 5: put that wine in there and you let those guys
- 38:31Speaker 5: go in there. But then when she requests a phone,
- 38:33Speaker 5: so you don't have any rights in situations like that.
- 38:36Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing.
- 38:37Speaker 7: And it's always the girl's fault. And I am extra
- 38:41Speaker 7: spicy because of Absinthe. But it's like, because how many
- 38:47Speaker 7: times do we have to see it and hear about
- 38:49Speaker 7: it and go through it?
- 38:50Speaker 2: It's like, but it's always the girl's fault.
- 38:54Speaker 7: Oh, and then on top of that, Jay, You told
- 38:57Speaker 7: her that she needed to— oh, actually, that was you, Tyra.
- 39:00Speaker 2: You told her that she needed to make it comfortable
- 39:03Speaker 2: for everyone.
- 39:04Speaker 5: When— No, that was— Julie' s obsessed with the girl that was
- 39:07Speaker 5: being groped while she was dancing.
- 39:10Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
- 39:10Speaker 4: So then they did this other video— this other shoot where
- 39:14Speaker 4: they were in, like, South Africa or something. And one
- 39:17Speaker 4: girl's there, and she's supposed to be dancing with three guys.
- 39:19Speaker 4: And one guy from the very start was very, like,
- 39:22Speaker 4: aggressive and hitting on her. And he was, like, touching
- 39:24Speaker 4: her leg and everything. And she was like, I'm not
- 39:26Speaker 4: like comfortable with this guy like touching me.
- 39:28Speaker 2: And they're like, Too bad. You have to do it.
- 39:32Speaker 7: And over and over, and then she had to stand
- 39:33Speaker 7: there while he... Literally, there's the picture, the final picture
- 39:36Speaker 7: they used is of the guy, and he's touching her.
- 39:39Speaker 2: But then Tyra tried to give her some... And this
- 39:41Speaker 2: is the one thing where she.
- 39:42Speaker 7: Tries to sort of defend herself and be like, listen,
- 39:45Speaker 7: I was trying to empower her, and that was the time...
- 39:48Speaker 7: we were living in and did she deserve better?
- 39:50Speaker 6: Yes.
- 39:51Speaker 7: But I did the best that I could, but she
- 39:53Speaker 7: told her to just be cool and say like, Hey bro,
- 39:56Speaker 7: like I'm not into that. And just be like, cool
- 39:58Speaker 7: about it. You know, cause you don't want to like
- 40:00Speaker 7: make a scene. You don't want to like make it
- 40:02Speaker 7: uncomfortable for everyone.
- 40:03Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 40:03Speaker 7: And again, it's like, no, we wouldn't want to, God
- 40:05Speaker 7: forbid we make the man who's groping me uncomfortable.
- 40:08Speaker 2: They clearly were very irritated.
- 40:10Speaker 5: Jay and the photographer, they're like, he literally, Jay literally
- 40:14Speaker 5: stood up and was like, there's 50 people here. What
- 40:17Speaker 5: do you think is going to happen to you? And
- 40:18Speaker 5: I'm like thinking to myself, it's crazy that we had
- 40:20Speaker 5: to go through Me Too for people.
- 40:24Speaker 2: And I mean, women included.
- 40:25Speaker 5: To understand that you have the right to like take
- 40:29Speaker 5: a photo with someone. I mean, we know Taylor Swift
- 40:31Speaker 5: came out of hiding from the Kanye thing and went
- 40:33Speaker 5: to court to testify against like a radio DJ who
- 40:36Speaker 5: like put his hand all the way up her skirt
- 40:39Speaker 5: and into her underwear while taking a photo of, Like,
- 40:41Speaker 5: you can't do a thing in a professional situation and
- 40:44Speaker 5: that you have the right not to be touched inappropriately
- 40:46Speaker 5: or groped. It's like, because this was pre-Me Too, and
- 40:50Speaker 5: everybody was just like, why are you acting scared?
- 40:53Speaker 2: We're all here.
- 40:54Speaker 5: What is he going to do to you? And she's like,
- 40:55Speaker 5: he's doing it to me now the entire time.
- 40:57Speaker 2: The whole time and aggressively the whole time. Give me
- 40:59Speaker 2: your number. Where can I see you? And it's like,
- 41:01Speaker 2: there's more.
- 41:02Speaker 7: There's the spectrum of harassment isn't just now I'm getting...
- 41:06Speaker 7: essayed in a room with a door shut even though
- 41:09Speaker 7: there's a full camera crew watching it but it's like
- 41:12Speaker 7: we they think they make you feel crazy and they
- 41:15Speaker 7: made made her feel crazy for feeling uncomfortable by someone
- 41:18Speaker 7: who was making her feel uncomfortable.
- 41:22Speaker 4: And then they had the thing with the teeth oh
- 41:25Speaker 4: now one girl did benefit from the teeth thing she
- 41:29Speaker 4: literally had a tooth coming out like like a complete
- 41:33Speaker 4: the epitome not just a snaggle tooth or one is
- 41:35Speaker 4: like pointed I mean like an extra tooth was coming
- 41:38Speaker 4: out the top of her mouth.
- 41:39Speaker 5: And it would make her smile be like, like it.
- 41:42Speaker 2: Would stick way out.
- 41:43Speaker 4: I'm sure they saw her and was like, this will
- 41:45Speaker 4: be a good makeover thing.
- 41:46Speaker 2: We'll do a dental thing.
- 41:47Speaker 4: Then there was this gorgeous black girl that had a
- 41:50Speaker 4: perfect face and she had a split between her teeth.
- 41:53Speaker 4: And they're like, we want to close that gap with
- 41:55Speaker 4: like veneers. Like I guess make the two teeth bigger.
- 41:58Speaker 4: And she's like, I don't want that. And then they're like, well,
- 42:01Speaker 4: you're not going to work. And Tyra's like, well, listen,
- 42:04Speaker 4: I talked to agents and stuff that they were like,
- 42:06Speaker 4: and I'm like, what about Lauren McCall? Like, why would
- 42:08Speaker 4: that matter? Then a couple seasons later, they find a
- 42:11Speaker 4: girl that has split between her teeth. And Tyra's like,
- 42:14Speaker 4: I want to make your split bigger. So then that girl,
- 42:17Speaker 4: the original split between her teeth, beautiful girl.
- 42:20Speaker 2: Was like, fuck you. Exactly. And she had every right.
- 42:25Speaker 4: And like, and again, none of these girls are like,
- 42:29Speaker 4: But since then, I've, you know, worked as a model.
- 42:32Speaker 4: They said once they would win it even, they would
- 42:34Speaker 4: go to try to get an agent. And there was, like,
- 42:38Speaker 4: the stink on them. Like, we don't want the stupid
- 42:40Speaker 4: reality star that's wearing the low-rise jeans and having her
- 42:44Speaker 4: saddle tooth removed, like, to be our cover girl. So
- 42:47Speaker 4: they really couldn't work after that.
- 42:48Speaker 2: Also, all of the photo shoots and the photos were fake. Trash.
- 42:52Speaker 7: Oh, right.
- 42:53Speaker 2: And I couldn't use them anyway.
- 42:54Speaker 5: They were bright technicolor, totally weird. I mean, there was
- 42:57Speaker 5: like a few of them that were like, I mean,
- 42:59Speaker 5: the pictures were useless. Like, yeah, sorry, the shot of
- 43:02Speaker 5: you getting your head shot off wasn't a good look
- 43:06Speaker 5: for elite models.
- 43:07Speaker 2: Let me see this. I look through your book. Oh,
- 43:09Speaker 2: this is when you're in a coffin with cockroaches.
- 43:11Speaker 1: Right.
- 43:11Speaker 6: Yes.
- 43:11Speaker 1: Okay.
- 43:12Speaker 2: Here you're flying off the side of a building with
- 43:15Speaker 2: blood being spurted on you.
- 43:17Speaker 4: Interesting.
- 43:17Speaker 2: I mean, it's over. Here's one where you're an elephant.
- 43:20Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
- 43:20Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, here's where you're a different race. Yes, this. Oh,
- 43:24Speaker 2: my God, yeah, the different race thing.
- 43:26Speaker 5: And then they said, if you were offended, and Jay
- 43:29Speaker 5: then said he knew it was bad. His two parents
- 43:32Speaker 5: are from South Africa, which ended up not really being
- 43:35Speaker 5: exactly true, but... And they're like, but if that offended you,
- 43:38Speaker 5: they did it nine cycles later again.
- 43:40Speaker 2: Right. They then did it again. So, Ms.
- 43:46Speaker 4: J sadly suffered a very debilitating stroke a couple years ago.
- 43:52Speaker 4: She seems to be doing better now. Or he, sorry.
- 43:54Speaker 4: I think he goes by he.
- 43:56Speaker 2: And did we miss a full chunk? Did we miss
- 43:58Speaker 2: an episode? Because I didn't see any of this. But Ms.
- 44:01Speaker 4: J says that never heard from Tyra, I don't think.
- 44:08Speaker 4: She definitely has not visited him.
- 44:11Speaker 8: Oh.
- 44:12Speaker 2: That's sad. It is sad. However, I don't know if
- 44:17Speaker 2: you haven't talked in five years. No, that's true.
- 44:20Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it doesn't mean that you're not
- 44:22Speaker 4: praying for them for a side and going, wow, I'm
- 44:24Speaker 4: really sad about that. I hope that the recovery goes well.
- 44:29Speaker 4: But I'm not an apologist for Tyra Banks.
- 44:32Speaker 2: I'm just saying like, okay.
- 44:33Speaker 6: Okay.
- 44:34Speaker 2: But this part I found, Adrienne Curry.
- 44:37Speaker 4: She has a great Instagram, and she did not participate,
- 44:41Speaker 4: and she did win one of the things.
- 44:44Speaker 2: She won the first one. And she went on to do,
- 44:47Speaker 2: was it Surreal World? And that's where she met Peter
- 44:49Speaker 2: Brady and married him.
- 44:51Speaker 4: And then they had a reality show about their life
- 44:54Speaker 4: that she was married to this much older guy that
- 44:56Speaker 4: was originally the star of the Brady Bunch as the
- 44:59Speaker 4: middle brother.
- 45:00Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 45:00Speaker 4: And they eventually divorced. But it was very, very entertaining.
- 45:05Speaker 2: So entertaining. Unhinged.
- 45:06Speaker 4: And now she, like, lives in Montana and, like, has
- 45:09Speaker 4: naturally gray hair. She's still very attractive. So she did
- 45:12Speaker 4: a thing, and she goes, yeah. They asked me, and
- 45:16Speaker 4: I'm so glad I didn't do it. Because none of
- 45:19Speaker 4: the other girls got paid for that doc either. They
- 45:24Speaker 4: didn't get paid when they were doing the show. And
- 45:27Speaker 4: they're not getting paid now.
- 45:29Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
- 45:29Speaker 4: You better believe that Jay Manuel, Miss Jay, and Nigel
- 45:34Speaker 4: got fucking paid to appear on that.
- 45:36Speaker 2: And Tyra.
- 45:38Speaker 4: But the thing about these docs, though, that I didn't
- 45:40Speaker 4: even realize because I've done some of them, they don't
- 45:44Speaker 4: have to offer you pay.
- 45:46Speaker 6: So.
- 45:47Speaker 4: if you, cause it's like, it's like a news story
- 45:50Speaker 4: or whatever.
- 45:50Speaker 3: Right.
- 45:51Speaker 4: So it doesn't have to fall in the lines of
- 45:52Speaker 4: like anything like that. So unless you say, no, I'm
- 45:55Speaker 4: not going to do it unless you pay.
- 45:57Speaker 2: Right.
- 45:58Speaker 4: And then, so the girls probably just didn't again think
- 46:01Speaker 4: to ask, or maybe they thought, yeah, I'll do it.
- 46:03Speaker 4: Like I'm, I would like to, you know, whatever, get,
- 46:05Speaker 4: get a pop it again. But I just thought she
- 46:08Speaker 4: was just like, once again, like she really came off savage. Like,
- 46:12Speaker 4: this is why I said no motherfuckers.
- 46:14Speaker 2: Like, and they were like, okay, we don't need you. Um,
- 46:18Speaker 2: so no, we're not going to pay you. And they didn't.
- 46:20Speaker 5: Um, did she, I thought there was one where she
- 46:22Speaker 5: defended Tyra too. This is the only one.
- 46:25Speaker 4: I saw is that she's just like, I don't, you know,
- 46:27Speaker 4: they didn't pay the other girls again.
- 46:29Speaker 2: Okay. Let's just classic.
- 46:31Speaker 5: You're now doing the documentary about how they were exploiting
- 46:33Speaker 5: and exploiting them for a second.
- 46:35Speaker 2: That's exactly what she was saying.
- 46:36Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 46:37Speaker 2: And also that's why you didn't make it in modeling
- 46:39Speaker 2: because you're not savvy enough.
- 46:40Speaker 5: Not her, but them. Like here you are again, just,
- 46:43Speaker 5: you know, being a free bitch thirst bucket. Said with
- 46:46Speaker 5: all respect.
- 46:46Speaker 2: With all respect. With all due respect. With all.
- 46:49Speaker 4: Love Story started and it's three episodes are out. It's
- 46:53Speaker 4: on FX and Hulu. And so you can watch the
- 46:56Speaker 4: three episodes and it's about... JFK Jr. and Caroline in
- 47:02Speaker 4: their seven year of, you know, when they fell in love,
- 47:05Speaker 4: got married, and when they sadly died in the plane
- 47:07Speaker 4: crash with her sister. And Naomi Watts plays Jackie O,
- 47:14Speaker 4: his mother. And she has the voice down, the whispery voice.
- 47:19Speaker 2: Very well.
- 47:19Speaker 4: And then this girl is playing Daryl Hannah because he
- 47:23Speaker 4: had a long relationship with Daryl Hannah.
- 47:26Speaker 1: And.
- 47:27Speaker 4: She comes off really annoying, Daryl Hannah's character. And I
- 47:32Speaker 4: think the girl playing her kind of is a good
- 47:34Speaker 4: actress for it, but she doesn't look like her. But
- 47:36Speaker 4: she sounds just like her. I think she's Meryl Hemingway's daughter. Oh.
- 47:40Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I just found out. Wow.
- 47:42Speaker 5: She sounds exactly like Daryl Hannah.
- 47:45Speaker 2: She's really talented. Well, and not for nothing, Daryl Hannah
- 47:48Speaker 2: is also annoying. That's what... So people were like, what.
- 47:51Speaker 4: So some people were reporting on it going... Did someone
- 47:56Speaker 4: in the world of Ryan Murphy like hate Daryl Hannah
- 47:58Speaker 4: and wanted to just show her in the most annoying light?
- 48:00Speaker 2: Because you're like, he's so annoyed with you. Like, get
- 48:02Speaker 2: a hint. He doesn't like you. Stop showing up.
- 48:05Speaker 4: And you're like, and so, but then when you really
- 48:09Speaker 4: look at like Daryl Hannah doing like an interview with
- 48:11Speaker 4: Jay Leno or something, she does act the way this
- 48:14Speaker 4: girl's portraying her. And so she's just.
- 48:17Speaker 2: She'll be like, hi, John. Give him a big hug.
- 48:21Speaker 2: I'm here because your mom died. I wanted to be here.
- 48:25Speaker 2: And he's like, why are you here? We haven't talked
- 48:26Speaker 2: in three months. Well, I mean, hi everyone. I'm here
- 48:32Speaker 2: with John again.
- 48:34Speaker 4: And he's like, what? Like, I don't like you. Why
- 48:36Speaker 4: are you showing up to the funeral? Like, I haven't
- 48:38Speaker 4: talked to you in three months. I like this other girl, Caroline,
- 48:41Speaker 4: leave me the fuck alone. So it's, I'm thoroughly entertained.
- 48:45Speaker 4: Some parts I think are a little slow, not for me,
- 48:47Speaker 4: but I wonder if it's a little slow for other people.
- 48:49Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah.
- 48:50Speaker 5: I thought it was, I mean, I'm invested because I,
- 48:54Speaker 5: I mean, I like I'm obsessed with them just like
- 48:56Speaker 5: everyone else. And I am a sucker for when like
- 49:00Speaker 5: the casting is spot on. So in Straight Outta Compton,
- 49:04Speaker 5: you know, Ice Cube's son plays him and it is like,
- 49:08Speaker 5: thank God someone in here looks exactly like Ice Cube.
- 49:11Speaker 2: In the Brady Bunch movie, that bitch who.
- 49:12Speaker 5: Married Ben Stiller, I wouldn't have made it through the
- 49:15Speaker 5: Brady Bunch movie. And I went to Brady Bunch 2
- 49:17Speaker 5: at the theater because I was so obsessed with how
- 49:19Speaker 5: she looked just like Marsha.
- 49:21Speaker 2: Unreal. So in this case, it's like they cast this
- 49:23Speaker 2: guy and it is... The guy is perfect. It's unreal.
- 49:27Speaker 2: Down to this shape of his little nipples. I'm like this.
- 49:30Speaker 2: This guy is the best match. Wow. You look exactly
- 49:34Speaker 2: like him. It's unbelievable. Everything. It is crazy.
- 49:38Speaker 5: Now, the only thing is his voice. I Googled, did
- 49:43Speaker 5: JFK Jr.
- 49:44Speaker 2: Have a lisp?
- 49:45Speaker 5: Because I was like, it's not strong. There's just something
- 49:48Speaker 5: in his speech. And I was like, is he that
- 49:50Speaker 5: good of an actor that he's putting on a voice?
- 49:51Speaker 5: But it doesn't matter. Ryan Murphy's doing shots of him
- 49:57Speaker 5: working out from far away. And I'm like, literally, my
- 49:59Speaker 5: mind's exploding. I'm like, it looks exactly like JFK. I
- 50:01Speaker 5: cannot believe it.
- 50:02Speaker 4: No, I remember the scene of after his mother dies
- 50:06Speaker 4: and he comes out.
- 50:07Speaker 2: To give the speech.
- 50:08Speaker 4: And I remember how he said she was surrounded by
- 50:11Speaker 4: her friends, her family, and her books. I always remember
- 50:13Speaker 4: that it was her books because she was an editor
- 50:16Speaker 4: of books. And I felt that is exactly how I
- 50:22Speaker 4: remember it. So in speaking of that, the big scene,
- 50:27Speaker 4: this girl, Shannon Hill News, she reminded us that there
- 50:34Speaker 4: was a actual moment where they caught them fighting. They
- 50:37Speaker 4: had a very tumultuous relationship, which added to the paparazzi
- 50:40Speaker 4: following them.
- 50:40Speaker 5: I watched like 20 hours of it. And during the show,
- 50:43Speaker 5: I was like, I had to go back and look
- 50:44Speaker 5: at the fight. Cause we haven't even seen the fight
- 50:46Speaker 5: yet on the show.
- 50:46Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 50:46Speaker 4: The fight is coming up and they get in this fight,
- 50:48Speaker 4: like in Washington square park.
- 50:51Speaker 6: Yes.
- 50:52Speaker 4: And so some paparazzi was following him that day because
- 50:56Speaker 4: it was like, some memorable day or something.
- 50:58Speaker 2: And so they just thought, Oh, maybe whatever. They were
- 51:00Speaker 2: always following him.
- 51:02Speaker 4: And they catch the whole thing on fighting, which is like, Oh,
- 51:05Speaker 4: that's a little physical on.
- 51:06Speaker 2: Both of their parts.
- 51:08Speaker 4: And like, it looks like she takes off the ring
- 51:10Speaker 4: or he takes the ring from her and they're engaged.
- 51:13Speaker 4: And they're the, the dog, they have the dog with
- 51:16Speaker 4: them and they're yelling at each other.
- 51:17Speaker 2: Then they're hugging each other. And it just goes to
- 51:19Speaker 2: show you.
- 51:20Speaker 4: And I truly believe that Caroline was that girl that,
- 51:24Speaker 4: just could mind fuck a guy like no one else.
- 51:28Speaker 4: And it's a talent I have never been blessed with.
- 51:32Speaker 4: And there are certain girls, they are not necessarily the
- 51:35Speaker 4: most perfect looking They might not even be the best
- 51:38Speaker 4: in the sack.
- 51:38Speaker 2: Though I would predict she's pretty good.
- 51:40Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 51:41Speaker 2: But it's more of like, come here. Now go away.
- 51:43Speaker 2: Come here. Now go away. Now watch me walk away. Like,
- 51:46Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 51:47Speaker 4: They know how to hook a dumb guy with their
- 51:51Speaker 4: Venus Trap vagina, but also with their mind.
- 51:54Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 51:54Speaker 4: Where they're so confused that they're like, what do I do?
- 51:58Speaker 4: And you see John just sitting, the real John, just
- 52:02Speaker 4: sat down on like a dirty street corner in New
- 52:04Speaker 4: York and just like, was like, I....
- 52:08Speaker 2: Does this girl want to be with me? Does she
- 52:10Speaker 2: love me? Does she not? Like I could have anybody,
- 52:12Speaker 2: but like, I'm so confused.
- 52:14Speaker 5: And then we know that 99% of the, of the
- 52:17Speaker 5: show is like made up. So they're going to tell
- 52:20Speaker 5: us what the fight was about, but we don't know
- 52:21Speaker 5: if that, we don't really know if that's how they met. Well,
- 52:24Speaker 5: it's based on like a lot of books. But a
- 52:27Speaker 5: lot of the books do not say.
- 52:29Speaker 2: No one will ever know.
- 52:30Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 52:30Speaker 2: So there's like. Speculation. Yeah, speculation.
- 52:33Speaker 5: So the whole, that's the whole thing with the show
- 52:35Speaker 5: is I'm not a huge Ryan Murphy fan in general too.
- 52:39Speaker 5: So I'm like filling in the pieces myself, just like,
- 52:43Speaker 5: you know, anyone should do while they're watching it and
- 52:45Speaker 5: you have to make your own choice. But I'm even
- 52:47Speaker 5: obsessed with Jackie O and like, Should we call Aunt Leigh?
- 52:50Speaker 2: And then remember when we all watched The Swans?
- 52:53Speaker 6: Yes.
- 52:53Speaker 5: And we learned on The Swans, also Ryan Murphy, that
- 52:57Speaker 5: Jackie stole.
- 53:00Speaker 2: Onassis. From Leigh.
- 53:01Speaker 1: Right.
- 53:02Speaker 5: And so I'm like, totally like, I wish I was
- 53:05Speaker 5: watching it in conjunction with The Swans for that.
- 53:07Speaker 2: It's just all so good. Yes, so good.
- 53:09Speaker 4: Now they show his cousin, who is Leigh's son, who
- 53:14Speaker 4: is Anthony, who was married... was married until, sadly, his death.
- 53:20Speaker 4: He died of cancer. I believe it was cancer, but
- 53:23Speaker 4: he was married to Carol Radziwell from Real Housewives of
- 53:28Speaker 4: New York. And when this was happening, I said, I
- 53:30Speaker 4: wonder if they'll get someone to play you. And she goes, no, no,
- 53:33Speaker 4: I don't even think we'll be.
- 53:34Speaker 2: A part of it.
- 53:34Speaker 4: I go, definitely your husband's going to be a part
- 53:37Speaker 4: of it. And I go, just watch. There'll just be
- 53:40Speaker 4: one small part, like somewhere where it's just a little
- 53:45Speaker 4: glimpse of Oh, hey, Carol.
- 53:47Speaker 2: You know, hey, Carol. And there'll be some brunette with
- 53:50Speaker 2: like a wide smile.
- 53:52Speaker 4: And just, I'm just telling, we haven't seen her yet,
- 53:54Speaker 4: but I'm telling you, I would not be surprised if
- 53:55Speaker 4: there's just one tiny little, because he likes to do that.
- 53:59Speaker 4: Like how he had, even in the OJ thing, he
- 54:01Speaker 4: had like the little Kardashian girls, even though they weren't
- 54:05Speaker 4: part of it, like in one scene going, hi, daddy.
- 54:08Speaker 2: You know, just so everyone at home is like extra invested.
- 54:12Speaker 2: And so we'll see.
- 54:13Speaker 5: Were they on their way to Carol's wedding on that?
- 54:17Speaker 5: He had already passed.
- 54:19Speaker 4: Carol's husband, Carol Radziwill's husband had already passed when the
- 54:24Speaker 4: plane went down.
- 54:24Speaker 6: Okay.
- 54:25Speaker 2: That scene, though, Julie, you should watch because it's the
- 54:27Speaker 2: very beginning. Yeah.
- 54:30Speaker 5: And that was a good way to, like, hook it.
- 54:33Speaker 5: I kind of like how the narrative switches around, how
- 54:36Speaker 5: they'll just be like, another episode will start, and they'll just,
- 54:39Speaker 5: like— it just starts in the middle of like just
- 54:42Speaker 5: walking in a park and you're just.
- 54:43Speaker 2: Like, well, where, right. And I do like that about it.
- 54:45Speaker 5: But to start out with that scene of the plane,
- 54:48Speaker 5: I thought that was like, I mean, you guys.
- 54:50Speaker 2: Are making it sound very, it's really good.
- 54:52Speaker 4: And for someone that like lived that time, it, it's
- 54:56Speaker 4: like nostalgic and kind of make like of when I
- 54:58Speaker 4: was single and when I thought I could like marry
- 55:01Speaker 4: JFK Jr.
- 55:02Speaker 2: If he just met me. It's all nineties music too.
- 55:05Speaker 5: Every piece of music is like from that exact moment
- 55:08Speaker 5: in time.
- 55:08Speaker 2: Well, I will say this. Sorry, go ahead.
- 55:10Speaker 7: No, I just, so I, I was a huge fan
- 55:15Speaker 7: of his magazine and you were the only one.
- 55:18Speaker 4: Yes. And I, because it was a political magazine called
- 55:21Speaker 4: George and I loved it. And I thought it was,
- 55:23Speaker 4: it would do like real pieces on senators and, Congress
- 55:26Speaker 4: people and the actual bills they were doing. Right. Which
- 55:28Speaker 4: is such a noble idea, and we should care, but
- 55:32Speaker 4: nobody cared.
- 55:32Speaker 7: I did, and I want you to know that I cared,
- 55:35Speaker 7: and I got the first... And I wish, but, you know,
- 55:38Speaker 7: our house burned down, so I lost all the magazines.
- 55:40Speaker 7: But I kept every one of them.
- 55:41Speaker 4: So you had the one with Cindy Crawford dressed in
- 55:43Speaker 4: George at a crop top?
- 55:44Speaker 2: Yes. And I had every— Ladies and gentlemen, meet George.
- 55:48Speaker 2: Remember that scene? Oh, God. It would be worth so
- 55:50Speaker 2: much money now.
- 55:51Speaker 5: Plus, he lived in New York when he was riding
- 55:52Speaker 5: around on his bike, like, shirtless and shit.
- 55:54Speaker 7: I had every single one of those magazines. And they
- 55:57Speaker 7: don't—and if he were around today.
- 55:58Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 55:59Speaker 7: But he really, truly did make politics— sexy. And he
- 56:05Speaker 7: was the only one. And that magazine was cool. On
- 56:07Speaker 7: the way to the plane ride. But the magazine was
- 56:10Speaker 7: going under.
- 56:10Speaker 2: I know, but it was good. I thought it was
- 56:13Speaker 2: already done. But on the way to.
- 56:14Speaker 5: The plane, he's like, he's talking about he's in a
- 56:17Speaker 5: fight with Carolyn. to her sister, who, not for nothing,
- 56:21Speaker 5: he also killed. So the parents lost two children. But
- 56:27Speaker 5: he's telling the sister about this fight, and he's like, God,
- 56:31Speaker 5: all I did was invite her to a wedding. It's
- 56:32Speaker 5: not like I'm making her go to the Democratic National Convention.
- 56:35Speaker 5: And I was like, I know what that is now.
- 56:40Speaker 5: And definitely at the time this happened, I had no
- 56:42Speaker 5: idea what that would have meant.
- 56:44Speaker 2: It's so weird. Now you deeply know. Look at you.
- 56:46Speaker 4: I've all grown up as a true adult that you are.
- 56:50Speaker 2: Okay.
- 56:52Speaker 4: Let's talk about some Epstein stuff that is very interesting.
- 56:58Speaker 4: So Gislaine, Jillaine, whatever you want to call her. We
- 57:01Speaker 4: call her Gislaine. I call her Gislaine too. Gislaine is
- 57:06Speaker 4: in prison. Now she did have a prison move. Okay.
- 57:09Speaker 4: Since she's been incarcerated. I think she's sentenced to 20 years.
- 57:15Speaker 4: She's been there for five now or something. She was
- 57:18Speaker 4: moved to like a better prison.
- 57:21Speaker 2: They call it a camp. Okay.
- 57:22Speaker 4: And so she, they show her in her, her tan
- 57:27Speaker 4: outfit with glasses saying, I won't answer any questions. I
- 57:32Speaker 4: take the fifth or whatever she's going to say. And
- 57:34Speaker 4: they show that Ghislaine's not talking about the file. She's
- 57:36Speaker 4: not giving up name. She's not going to talk. So
- 57:38Speaker 4: we're like, well, that's a waste. So then people, this
- 57:42Speaker 4: one guy, Eric, Mount, Mount Sos. Eric Mount, how would
- 57:48Speaker 4: you say that?
- 57:48Speaker 2: Mootsos? Yeah, Eric Mootsos. He's, he goes, hey, look, like,
- 57:53Speaker 2: this isn't her. So, watch your back, Eric.
- 57:58Speaker 4: The nose is completely different. The eye shape appears to
- 58:01Speaker 4: be different, but the nose is really different. And you don't,
- 58:04Speaker 4: your nose doesn't change like that. You don't get a
- 58:06Speaker 4: nose job either to get your nose bigger. And When
- 58:10Speaker 4: she entered the prison, she had, like, a long bob.
- 58:14Speaker 2: That's what I said.
- 58:14Speaker 4: And now she's got the hair that we're used to
- 58:17Speaker 4: seeing her in in all the photos.
- 58:19Speaker 2: So it's a wig. It's somebody else. It's a wig.
- 58:22Speaker 2: It's somebody else.
- 58:23Speaker 5: I looked at her old— when she had that short hair,
- 58:26Speaker 5: because she had that many times. Her bangs are so,
- 58:29Speaker 5: so specific. Like, she has great hair. She looks great
- 58:32Speaker 5: with short hair. And— There's no way. First of all,
- 58:36Speaker 5: it's so dark. I know they can dye your hair
- 58:38Speaker 5: in prison, but if you guys aren't watching this on YouTube,
- 58:42Speaker 5: what did you Google?
- 58:42Speaker 2: Because I told Julie didn't know about it.
- 58:44Speaker 5: And I was like, honestly, I was like aroused to
- 58:46Speaker 5: be able to tell her. I was like, you're not
- 58:47Speaker 5: going to fucking believe this. And then, so what did
- 58:50Speaker 5: you Google? Like side by side?
- 58:51Speaker 7: I Googled, yeah, it was Ghislaine Maxwell prison compare old photo.
- 58:57Speaker 2: Okay, so you can see what we're talking about if
- 58:58Speaker 2: you're not watching this on YouTube.
- 58:59Speaker 5: But I was looking, there's no way I truly believe
- 59:03Speaker 5: in my heart that you're in prison, you're in the jumpsuit,
- 59:08Speaker 5: you're only going to be able to dye your hair,
- 59:10Speaker 5: you're going to have a few grays, whatever. I just
- 59:12Speaker 5: don't believe there's any way she'd get rid of that
- 59:14Speaker 5: long hair when she can't wear makeup, she can't do
- 59:16Speaker 5: anything glamorous. Now she's going to go back to the
- 59:18Speaker 5: short hair and it's not even going to look cute
- 59:20Speaker 5: when she can rock a short hair like no one's business.
- 59:22Speaker 6: I mean.
- 59:24Speaker 2: What do I think?
- 59:25Speaker 4: I think they moved, they got rid of, when she
- 59:28Speaker 4: moved to prison, she's somewhere living, maybe not a lavish life,
- 59:33Speaker 4: but a free life somewhere.
- 59:35Speaker 2: Maybe then they gave her plastic surgery.
- 59:37Speaker 4: Epstein in those files also, you know, his girlfriend was
- 59:43Speaker 4: a dentist. One of his girlfriends, he got to become
- 59:46Speaker 4: a dentist, why there's a dentist chair there. Also, there's
- 59:49Speaker 4: an email where there's like all these teeth from India
- 59:52Speaker 4: being sent to him. So do you think that he
- 59:55Speaker 4: maybe knew that at one time he might have to
- 59:58Speaker 4: fake his death and need all new dental teeth records?
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: That's the one thing you can't change? Well, they did
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: have some weird kinks, too.
- 1:00:05Speaker 4: True.
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: It could be a kink thing. It could be both. Both,
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: but both.
- 1:00:08Speaker 5: Whoever this person is that spoke is not her, in
- 1:00:11Speaker 5: my opinion. And I thought exactly you when they moved her.
- 1:00:14Speaker 5: That was when the switch was made. And they keep
- 1:00:17Speaker 5: on showing us this.
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: Time lapse of her in her room.
- 1:00:23Speaker 5: Like going from the bed and going, it's like, I'm like,
- 1:00:26Speaker 5: why bother?
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: It's like just overselling this.
- 1:00:29Speaker 5: We don't get to see Jen Shah, you know, like
- 1:00:34Speaker 5: in there doing her shit before she got released or
- 1:00:36Speaker 5: Elizabeth Holmes. Why do we need to see like, they
- 1:00:39Speaker 5: keep trying to like prove she's in there so hard.
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: I forgot Jen Shah's out. She's out. What is she doing?
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: She's going to lunch with Karen Huger. Oh, really?
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: No.
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: Oh. I wish she was. Here's a closeup. The nose.
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: The nose sent me. I'm going to say the eyes
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: and eyebrows, though. But the nose are totally different. Though
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: I will say the eyes are different. The eyes are different, too.
- 1:01:06Speaker 4: Look at this one on the left. It's like a
- 1:01:08Speaker 4: bigger one. Well, Ghislaine's... More hooded, too. The left side
- 1:01:15Speaker 4: is slanted. That lady's eyes are not slanted.
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: Also, this... The real photo of Ghislaine.
- 1:01:22Speaker 4: The eyes are hooded and then they're less hooded as
- 1:01:25Speaker 4: she aged.
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: That never happens.
- 1:01:27Speaker 4: It doesn't go backwards. Just like your nose doesn't get
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: shorter and fatter.
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: It would get longer. Do you think she's alive or
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: do you think they killed her? I think she's alive.
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: And do you think she's with Jeffrey Epstein? Is he alive?
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Are they just living on
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: the island and that's why no one's allowed there?
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: Because if I don't know if Jeffrey Epstein's alive or not,
- 1:01:49Speaker 4: but I, I just, I think that she is. Well,
- 1:01:52Speaker 4: I will say in terms of that, that I always,
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: she won't ever tell with Epstein. I say too, they show,
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: they showed his like body coming out with part partially
- 1:02:02Speaker 4: of his face, which you can look back on history.
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: They've never done that again.
- 1:02:07Speaker 5: It's like, whether you, that you got a mask made,
- 1:02:09Speaker 5: whether it's someone else, it's like, why are you?
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen these masks, like they're, They're incredible.
- 1:02:16Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: The masks that you can put on.
- 1:02:19Speaker 4: Like now, honestly, if we were to do, you know,
- 1:02:23Speaker 4: white chicks again, I don't even think they have to
- 1:02:25Speaker 4: do the prosthetics and the makeup. I think they could
- 1:02:27Speaker 4: do one of these masks and not have to suffer
- 1:02:32Speaker 4: like that. And it could still sort of look like
- 1:02:34Speaker 4: the guys underneath, but they could, I mean. So I
- 1:02:38Speaker 4: don't even think they put a mask on someone.
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: I mean, they should have put a.
- 1:02:42Speaker 4: Mask on someone.
- 1:02:42Speaker 5: I think that's like a person in the CIA who
- 1:02:46Speaker 5: they're like, you know, they have their jobs and they
- 1:02:48Speaker 5: all have to keep secrets. And it's like, this is
- 1:02:49Speaker 5: going to be your job. And the person's probably like, well,
- 1:02:53Speaker 5: I'm not going to that prison. And they're like, okay, well,
- 1:02:55Speaker 5: you can go to the camp in Texas. And then
- 1:02:58Speaker 5: this will be your job. And you'll be in a
- 1:02:59Speaker 5: private cell and whatever. And we're going to get you
- 1:03:01Speaker 5: your money through.
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: Your whole thing. And then if they can get her.
- 1:03:06Speaker 5: You know, if Trump pardons her or whatever and gets
- 1:03:09Speaker 5: her out, then at that point, maybe they will bring
- 1:03:13Speaker 5: out the real Ghislaine.
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: And then this woman gets to go back to working
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: for the CIA.
- 1:03:17Speaker 5: I don't know, but I think Ghislaine is alive.
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: I do too.
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: There's this other girl that was a big trafficker with Epstein,
- 1:03:27Speaker 4: a pretty blonde that is all over the thing and
- 1:03:31Speaker 4: got girls and recruited girls and everything. And she was
- 1:03:35Speaker 4: also allegedly a pilot though. They don't know if she
- 1:03:37Speaker 4: should wear like a pilot outfit. I don't know if
- 1:03:39Speaker 4: she was really of the Lolita express. Anyway, uh, the
- 1:03:42Speaker 4: internet seemed to a founder and she's a monk. She's
- 1:03:46Speaker 4: or in some Buddhist thing. You can see the nose.
- 1:03:49Speaker 4: I cut that off, but it appears that she is
- 1:03:52Speaker 4: living her life now at like some Buddhist place.
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: Allegedly.
- 1:03:58Speaker 7: I mean, if that's where you're going to, You know,
- 1:04:00Speaker 7: even in Sister Act.
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: In Sister Act 1 and 2. Oh, my God! In
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: Sister Act 1 and 2, where are you going to
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: put someone? We should ask Whoopi. Yeah, you put them
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: in a convent. Whoopi went on The View to say
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: she is in the files.
- 1:04:14Speaker 4: But it was just, you know, like, you know, a
- 1:04:17Speaker 4: mention of like, oh, we need a plane for something
- 1:04:21Speaker 4: for Whoopi to go someplace. Can you use your plane?
- 1:04:23Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of smart of her to bring
- 1:04:25Speaker 4: it up. Like, don't throw me in this. They mentioned me.
- 1:04:28Speaker 7: But like Tom Hanks. And I mean, there's going to
- 1:04:31Speaker 7: be a lot of people named that are.
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: We need to focus on the ones. There's enough right
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: now of real names of people we know.
- 1:04:39Speaker 6: Right.
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: From professors to people in business and even some people.
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: To the presidency.
- 1:04:44Speaker 6: Yes.
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: That their real name is tied to a real person.
- 1:04:49Speaker 8: Accuser or a real horrible email that's talking about one-year-old
- 1:04:56Speaker 8: babies and I loved torturing or saying God didn't kill
- 1:05:00Speaker 8: her type of stuff with real people.
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: They didn't redraft.
- 1:05:05Speaker 4: And easily, speaking of the one Redact.
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: So it's like, why are you not doing anything about it?
- 1:05:12Speaker 7: The professor who told him how the babies could suckle harder.
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: Is still at UCLA. I thought they did get rid
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: of him.
- 1:05:19Speaker 7: He technically can work out the rest of his year.
- 1:05:23Speaker 7: So he's fired, but he's still there. He's on the website.
- 1:05:26Speaker 7: You can contact the office.
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: What are we doing? Honestly, what are we doing?
- 1:05:30Speaker 4: I just feel like it's like, I think they're trying,
- 1:05:33Speaker 4: I think they dumped this on our lap. And everyone
- 1:05:36Speaker 4: in the Internet, every podcast or every tech talk or
- 1:05:39Speaker 4: to just like.
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: Figure it out.
- 1:05:40Speaker 4: And then they're like, oh, by the way, all that
- 1:05:42Speaker 4: work that you do, it doesn't go towards the grade.
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: OK, this was all a big waste. This is just
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: you're going to forget about it in a couple of weeks,
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: along with Nancy Guthrie. And you're going to move on
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: to aliens again. I don't know. But I'm just like,
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: what do you. So are we just supposed to go? Well,
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: at least. Well, at least that guy didn't eat the babies. Exactly,
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: and that's what they are trying to do, Meg and Kelly.
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: They're trying to do that. So they liked messing around
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: with kids. At least they were 16. Yeah, or even
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: if they weren't 16. All of that. They had a
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: strict diet.
- 1:06:18Speaker 4: So we know for a fact that Congressman blah, blah,
- 1:06:22Speaker 4: blah never ate them.
- 1:06:24Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: Because he's a vegan. Yeah. So we at least know that.
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: And what billionaire in person.
- 1:06:30Speaker 4: First of all, I've never written about pizza or grape soda.
- 1:06:34Speaker 4: And if I got invited to any celebrity's house or
- 1:06:36Speaker 4: any rich person and they only serve pizza, I'd.
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: Be fucking pissed. I'd be like, what?
- 1:06:40Speaker 4: Every time I've gone to a rich person's house, it's caviar,
- 1:06:44Speaker 4: it's catered, it's a wine pairing, and this is all
- 1:06:48Speaker 4: they want? Like, you can't tell me that that's not something.
- 1:06:52Speaker 4: You just can't tell me that's not something.
- 1:06:54Speaker 7: Well, at this point, we don't... It's so... beyond anything
- 1:06:58Speaker 7: we could have ever imagined. My hope is that because
- 1:07:01Speaker 7: so many visuals.
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: How can they eat all that pizza? Plus, what about
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: the cream cheese? A lot of carbs. So they're eating
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: cream cheese? The most fattening thing ever. Because it's from
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: the babies. And pizza. All the time. And grape soda,
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: which is terrible. Even though I do love grape soda
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: and pizza.
- 1:07:21Speaker 7: But I'm hoping that because of so many visuals, There
- 1:07:27Speaker 7: are so many disturbing, horrific videos and pictures that people
- 1:07:34Speaker 7: from the internet, politicians to the internet sleuths are suffering
- 1:07:40Speaker 7: through that I don't know that there's gonna be, I
- 1:07:43Speaker 7: don't know that this might be the time where something happens.
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: It's not happening now, but how many- No, because we
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: have to put all of our attention towards Nancy Guthrie. Well,
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: they're trying it, but at the same time, That's right.
- 1:07:57Speaker 7: It's also slowly coming out like these people like I
- 1:07:59Speaker 7: looked at these pictures. I'm I'm a changed person. I
- 1:08:03Speaker 7: don't know how to sleep again. And it's like, you
- 1:08:05Speaker 7: know what I mean? People are looking at things that
- 1:08:08Speaker 7: we're talking about and we can only try and.
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: Make you know to try and live but they're looking
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: at it and videos of it children screaming.
- 1:08:17Speaker 7: And being murdered and arred and all this stuff and
- 1:08:20Speaker 7: then they're coming and they're talking about it I don't
- 1:08:23Speaker 7: know that there's there's something has to happen.
- 1:08:26Speaker 4: And it's fine like don't don't go and look yourself
- 1:08:29Speaker 4: and also don't act like what we're saying is not
- 1:08:33Speaker 4: real because it is.
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: That's exactly right. It is real. That's right. It is real.
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: You don't have to, like, just, so I'll try to
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: talk about it a little bit.
- 1:08:40Speaker 4: I'm not going to not talk about it, but, like, no,
- 1:08:42Speaker 4: I don't want you to have to go through, like,
- 1:08:44Speaker 4: I don't want anyone to go down the work.
- 1:08:46Speaker 6: No.
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: But I also want to.
- 1:08:47Speaker 4: Thank the people that are doing the work, that are, like,
- 1:08:50Speaker 4: putting this together with, like, solid evidence that is going
- 1:08:53Speaker 4: through the things.
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:08:54Speaker 4: So, also, I still think it's really weird that Ellen's
- 1:08:57Speaker 4: set looked just like the townhouse on Epstein Island.
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: And we never thought about it. Wow. There was a
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: temple on the island, too?
- 1:09:08Speaker 4: And all the people that have ties to all of
- 1:09:11Speaker 4: this that had weird suicides.
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a whole to-do. What was the name? Twist?
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: That was his name? What was the guy that- Oh, yeah,
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: on Ellen.
- 1:09:20Speaker 6: That's right.
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: The DJ.
- 1:09:21Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
- 1:09:23Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. I forgot about that.
- 1:09:26Speaker 5: Even the guy who was with Tom Sandoval in Charles McMansion,
- 1:09:31Speaker 5: they did T.I.P. Girl, Lala's in the video, Ariana. That
- 1:09:35Speaker 5: was when Julie and I worked on the Vanderpump After Show.
- 1:09:39Speaker 5: His partner in Charles McMansion- also was investigating, and he was, like,
- 1:09:46Speaker 5: talking a lot about Tom Hanks, but he definitely had
- 1:09:48Speaker 5: an in on, like, the Epstein files, and he had
- 1:09:52Speaker 5: a very mysterious suicide.
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: Oliver. What about... No, maybe that's not his name. What
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: about the two.
- 1:09:59Speaker 4: What about the DJ of Avicii or something?
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: He had a... Avicii? Avicii, he had.
- 1:10:05Speaker 4: a video that actually showed kids running away from an
- 1:10:08Speaker 4: Island and jumping like off a cliff. And he was
- 1:10:12Speaker 4: working allegedly on a movie about, um, child trafficking with
- 1:10:18Speaker 4: the two other guys that wrote that song about, um, Oh.
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: God, I really can't think I can't sing it right now,
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: but that song.
- 1:10:27Speaker 4: About, about they put the, the, and the, and the, and, um,
- 1:10:33Speaker 4: And the waiting with their mouths open. And like, there's
- 1:10:38Speaker 4: a song about like babies and blood and all of it.
- 1:10:44Speaker 4: And then even the video of we don't need no education.
- 1:10:48Speaker 4: That video shows babies falling into.
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: A meat grinder.
- 1:10:52Speaker 4: And that's like children, children, children with masks on going
- 1:10:56Speaker 4: into a meat grinder.
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: Like everything. It's like, There's so much. So when people say, like, Heather,
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: you're losing your mind. I'm sorry, but there's so many things.
- 1:11:04Speaker 4: So those four people, those two musicians that got together
- 1:11:07Speaker 4: and sang, they both had weird deaths or ended their lives. Supposedly,
- 1:11:12Speaker 4: Anthony Bourdain was also involved in this particular movie about children.
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: So that all went away. Anthony Bourdain was 100% on
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: the Harvey Weinstein thing when he... But he had that girlfriend, Asia,
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: who was one of the Me Too people.
- 1:11:26Speaker 4: But then also, she had dated a 16-year-old boy when
- 1:11:30Speaker 4: she was 30.
- 1:11:32Speaker 6: Yes.
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: Who was an actor that she did a show with.
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: So I'm like, she was an accuser, but then she
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: was a victim, but then she was a perpetrator.
- 1:11:41Speaker 4: And that was her boyfriend. And then in the middle
- 1:11:43Speaker 4: of shooting, he ends his life.
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
- 1:11:46Speaker 2: Anyway, Ellen... It's just a little too coincidental. It's bizarre. Allegedly.
- 1:11:55Speaker 4: Let's lighten it up a little and talk about Real
- 1:11:58Speaker 4: Housewives of Beverly Hills.
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: How are you feeling about the season, girls?
- 1:12:04Speaker 7: The entire season, as we know, is about manifesting. As
- 1:12:07Speaker 7: you've started your own successful manifesting business.
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: Yes, I have.
- 1:12:14Speaker 4: Manifesting Mama, which has really been inspiring for us because
- 1:12:18Speaker 4: we've been manifesting too. It's just like, I don't know,
- 1:12:24Speaker 4: everything about it, it's like we watch it and I
- 1:12:26Speaker 4: think like, oh, they're so rich.
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: And then I go, how do we get rich? And
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: then I realize, just like think about it.
- 1:12:30Speaker 4: Well, that's what I do with my business. I can
- 1:12:33Speaker 4: teach you that. And some people would say, well, you
- 1:12:37Speaker 4: shouldn't spend what you don't have. But paying off my
- 1:12:40Speaker 4: students' loans does not inspire me to live a better life.
- 1:12:43Speaker 4: But this Chanel purse, it does. It does inspire me
- 1:12:47Speaker 4: to want to buy more Chanel purses. So I tell
- 1:12:51Speaker 4: my clients, after you've bought the series of how to
- 1:12:55Speaker 4: get rich with me, which is $ 7, 500, but right now
- 1:12:57Speaker 4: it's on sale for $ 7, 300. Once you do that, take
- 1:12:58Speaker 4: your other credit card and go and manifest that purse
- 1:13:09Speaker 4: And then when you buy it, you've manifested it.
- 1:13:12Speaker 2: It's yours.
- 1:13:14Speaker 4: You're driving it home because you thought of it, because
- 1:13:17Speaker 4: you listened to it. Paying off a student loan doesn't
- 1:13:20Speaker 4: do that. Paying off student loans is just so dumb.
- 1:13:25Speaker 4: The other thing is, I don't know if you've heard this,
- 1:13:28Speaker 4: and I don't know if anyone's accused you, but they've
- 1:13:32Speaker 4: accused Amanda of, starting a fake fan page which then
- 1:13:38Speaker 4: goes and says all of the great things that they've
- 1:13:41Speaker 4: learned from the courses but apparently i have seen all
- 1:13:47Speaker 4: those posts like i've seen things that are they like
- 1:13:50Speaker 4: if someone criticizes her say someone's like you don't know
- 1:13:52Speaker 4: what you're talking about she changed my life and i'm
- 1:13:55Speaker 4: like okay like what is the.
- 1:13:59Speaker 2: Level the grift She's so tripling down.
- 1:14:02Speaker 7: I can't, and I will say this, thank God for Bose,
- 1:14:06Speaker 7: because Bose is clock, clickety-clocking.
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: She is fun to watch. Clickety-clocking her. Every second. From
- 1:14:13Speaker 2: minute one. From minute one, she clocked it.
- 1:14:15Speaker 7: But she's not letting it go, and I do appreciate it,
- 1:14:17Speaker 7: because what Amanda's trying to do in every scene that
- 1:14:20Speaker 7: she's in is trying to, like, move the needle and
- 1:14:23Speaker 7: move the target and make it about, like, being a
- 1:14:27Speaker 7: sultan at the dinner table. And it's like, you're not...
- 1:14:31Speaker 7: Every single thing is a... She's just moving, moving, and
- 1:14:34Speaker 7: Bozish isn't having it, and it's great. And Rachel sees it, too.
- 1:14:38Speaker 2: That's what I manifested. I manifested... Rachel's out. Yeah. She's
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: so fun to watch. I love looking at her.
- 1:14:46Speaker 8: Yes.
- 1:14:47Speaker 2: I think she gives great advice. Yeah.
- 1:14:50Speaker 4: I understand what she's saying about her marriage and why
- 1:14:54Speaker 4: it ended and why, you know.
- 1:14:56Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, sometimes we just want to vent.
- 1:14:58Speaker 4: And if this is a reality show, I do think
- 1:15:00Speaker 4: she chose to be on this reality show to fucking
- 1:15:03Speaker 4: bury Roger.
- 1:15:03Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:15:04Speaker 4: Because she was like, I can't do it alone on
- 1:15:06Speaker 4: my Instagram, but if I'm doing it over drinks with girls,
- 1:15:08Speaker 4: that's what I'd be doing. And I want people to
- 1:15:10Speaker 4: know what a complete annoying dick he's been and that
- 1:15:13Speaker 4: he totally changed and punished me for it for the
- 1:15:15Speaker 4: last 10 years. Yeah.
- 1:15:16Speaker 2: And took up with a young girl and like, fuck you.
- 1:15:20Speaker 5: Her seething fucking rage for Roger is getting me through
- 1:15:25Speaker 5: the year. I mean, honestly, so I'll be thinking about
- 1:15:28Speaker 5: the Epstein shit and then I'll be like, you know what?
- 1:15:29Speaker 5: Let me just switch over to Rachel's though and how
- 1:15:31Speaker 5: much she hates Roger.
- 1:15:32Speaker 4: And I'm like, and she's also like talks about how
- 1:15:35Speaker 4: she doesn't like people being mean. Yeah.
- 1:15:38Speaker 7: It's the, you know what I mean? Like she does
- 1:15:39Speaker 7: seem like a cool hang. Like she seems like.
- 1:15:42Speaker 2: Someone you want to hang out with. When I was like,
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: doing my fun palms for you.
- 1:15:46Speaker 4: So there was this one woman, she was selling caftans
- 1:15:48Speaker 4: and I was like, Oh my God, I just want
- 1:15:51Speaker 4: a caftan. This just brings me back to this era
- 1:15:53Speaker 4: of time where I'm like smoking a cigarette. And I'm like,
- 1:15:57Speaker 4: I know my husband's fucking the secretary, but I don't care.
- 1:15:59Speaker 4: I've got a casserole in the oven and I'm just
- 1:16:02Speaker 4: going to look gorgeous and spend his Last dollar.
- 1:16:07Speaker 2: Like, she's so fun to watch. It's all so good.
- 1:16:10Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:16:11Speaker 7: The other thing about Amanda is that she is trying
- 1:16:14Speaker 7: to also double down on social media by using the.
- 1:16:18Speaker 2: Words that people are calling her and then trying to
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: twist it.
- 1:16:21Speaker 7: Like, look what this scam artist did with the fake manifesting.
- 1:16:27Speaker 2: And it's just like, Amanda, Amanda, Amanda. Now she's doing
- 1:16:31Speaker 2: Kyle from Summer House. Amanda, Amanda. We see you. We
- 1:16:35Speaker 2: see you.
- 1:16:36Speaker 4: But hey, I also say, if you can create some
- 1:16:41Speaker 4: master class, I mean, everybody, Oprah, Kris Jenner, they all
- 1:16:44Speaker 4: do a master class.
- 1:16:45Speaker 2: Yes.
- 1:16:46Speaker 4: So did Tony Robbins. She didn't invent the wheel. She
- 1:16:50Speaker 4: took it and did make it successful. And if people
- 1:16:52Speaker 4: bought it, just like people paid Teddy to have.
- 1:16:55Speaker 2: Her scream at them via text. Same thing.
- 1:16:58Speaker 4: Like you, you know, then that's, that is not a crime.
- 1:17:02Speaker 2: It's not a crime.
- 1:17:03Speaker 6: No.
- 1:17:03Speaker 2: It's not. You're an asshole. But it's not a crime.
- 1:17:06Speaker 2: And that is true.
- 1:17:09Speaker 7: If you bought it, you take accountability and responsibility for it.
- 1:17:12Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:17:12Speaker 2: I do. And I do enjoy watching all of it.
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, without Amanda, the show would have been
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: really dull. It's true. As fun as Rachel Zoe is. Yeah.
- 1:17:20Speaker 4: Sometimes, I mean, it's truly like they're on a trip together.
- 1:17:24Speaker 4: If you've ever been on a girl trip or something,
- 1:17:27Speaker 4: and there's, I've only had it once happen in the
- 1:17:29Speaker 4: last 10 years, but we were on a trip, a
- 1:17:31Speaker 4: girl's trip, and about 10 years ago, and there was
- 1:17:35Speaker 4: you know, one chick that just, we have love for,
- 1:17:38Speaker 4: but she annoyed the fuck.
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: Out of us.
- 1:17:39Speaker 4: And it really brought us together. And it was, otherwise
- 1:17:42Speaker 4: the trip would have been boring. The fun was come
- 1:17:45Speaker 4: take a walk with me. And then you'd bitch about her.
- 1:17:48Speaker 4: And it's like, I feel like that's what we're watching
- 1:17:51Speaker 4: and it's kind of bonding them.
- 1:17:52Speaker 2: And it's, it's, it's not bad to watch. Was it
- 1:17:56Speaker 2: Julie and me on any of the trips?
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: Never.
- 1:17:59Speaker 2: This is before. This is literally 10 years ago, like
- 1:18:01Speaker 2: 10 years ago.
- 1:18:02Speaker 4: And it was just an okay trip, but honestly, the
- 1:18:05Speaker 4: most fun was, like, bagging on the.
- 1:18:10Speaker 2: One girl that was being weird.
- 1:18:11Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:18:11Speaker 2: Like, yeah.
- 1:18:12Speaker 5: Well, Jennifer Tilly, if you're watching, and we know you are,
- 1:18:15Speaker 5: get in touch with us, DM us. I didn't realize
- 1:18:17Speaker 5: Jennifer Tilly was still just a friend.
- 1:18:18Speaker 4: I know.
- 1:18:19Speaker 2: How is she not? What? Because this is the most gorgeous....
- 1:18:23Speaker 4: Photo of all of them. I love all their outfits.
- 1:18:25Speaker 4: I love their old forties look. I can't believe we
- 1:18:27Speaker 4: just can't have her in this photo.
- 1:18:29Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:18:29Speaker 5: Cause she looks so perfect or something, but she needs
- 1:18:33Speaker 5: to be not just a friend. Maybe she's not even
- 1:18:35Speaker 5: interested in being full time, but she brings a lot
- 1:18:38Speaker 5: to it too.
- 1:18:38Speaker 7: She brings so much to it. Apparently she just did
- 1:18:40Speaker 7: an episode of a school spirit, high spirits.
- 1:18:44Speaker 2: It's on Paramount plus.
- 1:18:45Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:18:46Speaker 7: It's a show about like this girl that dies in
- 1:18:48Speaker 7: high school and then goes and investigates like death and
- 1:18:50Speaker 7: stuff as like a dead person.
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: I love it.
- 1:18:53Speaker 7: So Jennifer Tilly just did an episode of that, but she's,
- 1:18:55Speaker 7: maybe that's why she wasn't around the last few episodes
- 1:18:57Speaker 7: because we've missed her.
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: Give us a call. DM us.
- 1:19:00Speaker 5: We have a proposition for you and might be sexual,
- 1:19:03Speaker 5: but then maybe there's two propositions.
- 1:19:06Speaker 2: Definitely.
- 1:19:07Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely love. Um, Brandy Glanville found out what happened
- 1:19:11Speaker 4: to her face. Okay.
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: What happened? So she had, uh, fake boobs.
- 1:19:18Speaker 4: I don't know if they're silicone or saline, but according
- 1:19:21Speaker 4: to what they think is that there was like leakage
- 1:19:25Speaker 4: throughout that. And it got into the lymph nodes and
- 1:19:29Speaker 4: went up to the face. She said, I still had
- 1:19:31Speaker 4: a parasite, but this is really whatever they got rid
- 1:19:35Speaker 4: of it. They're taking care of it. She looks a
- 1:19:38Speaker 4: lot better. And so that mystery has been solved. This
- 1:19:43Speaker 4: mystery has not. Do you remember this girl? I think
- 1:19:49Speaker 4: she goes by Conti Chanel, but it has a CV.
- 1:19:52Speaker 4: She brought up, I want to know what was the story.
- 1:19:56Speaker 4: Do you remember like three years ago when that girl,
- 1:19:59Speaker 4: pretty cute, pretty stylish girl on a plane, freaked out
- 1:20:03Speaker 4: saying that that person in the back is not real.
- 1:20:06Speaker 4: They're like a shape shift. She's not human.
- 1:20:11Speaker 2: But then we never really heard from her again. She
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: never said it was a joke.
- 1:20:14Speaker 4: She never like, I don't think that she went to
- 1:20:17Speaker 4: like a 51 50 situation.
- 1:20:20Speaker 2: What was it now in light? Like what happened to
- 1:20:22Speaker 2: that girl at.
- 1:20:24Speaker 5: This point in 2026? I believe her.
- 1:20:28Speaker 2: I know, you know, I do.
- 1:20:31Speaker 5: When someone wins the lottery now, I'm just like, wow,
- 1:20:32Speaker 5: someone from the future. I'd really love to meet them. Wait,
- 1:20:36Speaker 5: what does that mean? Because they time traveled back and
- 1:20:38Speaker 5: they knew the lotto numbers. And it's like, oh, you
- 1:20:40Speaker 5: got the one billion?
- 1:20:41Speaker 6: Neat.
- 1:20:42Speaker 5: It's a time traveler from the future who had all
- 1:20:45Speaker 5: of the lotto numbers.
- 1:20:46Speaker 4: You know how people say, why is it that we
- 1:20:47Speaker 4: all remember, like, the Monopoly guy having a monocle, but
- 1:20:50Speaker 4: he doesn't? Or Curious George having a tail, but then
- 1:20:54Speaker 4: we look. Yeah, like the Mandela effect.
- 1:20:56Speaker 2: Yeah, and even if you.
- 1:20:57Speaker 4: Go to, like, your old book from your childhood, you
- 1:20:59Speaker 4: open it up, and George doesn't have a tail, or
- 1:21:02Speaker 4: the monocle thing he says.
- 1:21:03Speaker 2: And it is a weird.
- 1:21:10Speaker 4: Time travel i don't know they can't really be explained
- 1:21:12Speaker 4: but it there is no way to explain why and
- 1:21:16Speaker 4: it's like the bernstein bears and it's all these things
- 1:21:18Speaker 4: that we like yep that you remember okay bernstein bears
- 1:21:22Speaker 4: how do they spell it in your head okay um
- 1:21:25Speaker 4: b e or bernstein or whatever it's called bernstein birds
- 1:21:29Speaker 4: how do they spell steen.
- 1:21:30Speaker 2: Like if it's bernstein b-e-a-r-n-s-t-e-i-n No, the end of the
- 1:21:38Speaker 2: word was spelled S-T-A-I-N.
- 1:21:41Speaker 6: Stain? Yes.
- 1:21:42Speaker 2: Berenstain? Really? Because that would be too Jewish if it
- 1:21:47Speaker 2: was Berenstain. I guess, but how is it like.
- 1:21:50Speaker 4: I didn't... I mean, if I find this thing, I will.
- 1:21:55Speaker 2: The monocle blows your mind too, though. There's like 10
- 1:21:57Speaker 2: things that you, one is a curious George with a tail.
- 1:22:02Speaker 2: He didn't have a tail.
- 1:22:03Speaker 6: Yes.
- 1:22:04Speaker 2: It's the monocle is the main one.
- 1:22:06Speaker 4: Looney Tunes. How do you remember Looney Tunes being spelled? L-O-O-N-E-Y-T-U-N-E-S. T-O-N-E-Y-T-U-N-E-S.
- 1:22:15Speaker 2: Oh, tunes? That's correct. Wait, no, it's not T-O-O-N-S? That's
- 1:22:19Speaker 2: what most people think. But it is T-U-N-E-S. What?
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: Is it?
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:22:25Speaker 4: It is!
- 1:22:26Speaker 2: Oh, why wouldn't they do tunes? Like T-O-O-N-S. But you
- 1:22:29Speaker 2: were right. You were right, though.
- 1:22:30Speaker 5: But still, then I thought that didn't even make sense.
- 1:22:33Speaker 7: So it's Looney Tunes, but not Looney Tunes.
- 1:22:39Speaker 2: Everything that's in my mind is wrong. There's also like
- 1:22:41Speaker 2: Fruit Loops. What's with Fruit Loops? I can't remember what
- 1:22:43Speaker 2: the Fruit Loops one is. Well, there's that other thing.
- 1:22:47Speaker 2: That's the Mandela effect.
- 1:22:48Speaker 5: So there's the other thing where they put this is
- 1:22:50Speaker 5: a real, a real like, like experiment they did.
- 1:22:55Speaker 2: They took all these people in a room, like in
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: a classroom.
- 1:22:57Speaker 5: So you're sitting at a desk, they're adults and they
- 1:23:00Speaker 5: give you this super, super hard, um, like crossword puzzle
- 1:23:06Speaker 5: and nobody could, could get it. And just nobody could
- 1:23:09Speaker 5: complete it. They went outside the door and they posted
- 1:23:13Speaker 5: all of the answers outside the door. And then one
- 1:23:15Speaker 5: by one, they all started to get it. Like the
- 1:23:18Speaker 5: first person, it's like the answers were in the air.
- 1:23:22Speaker 5: And then once the first person then gets it and leaves.
- 1:23:24Speaker 2: But they didn't see it.
- 1:23:25Speaker 6: Nope.
- 1:23:27Speaker 2: It's just once they were there.
- 1:23:28Speaker 4: Slurred.
- 1:23:29Speaker 2: And acknowledged into the atmosphere.
- 1:23:30Speaker 5: And then once one person had it, then like the
- 1:23:32Speaker 5: next person gets it from them and gets it and
- 1:23:34Speaker 5: they just all start to do it.
- 1:23:35Speaker 6: One by one.
- 1:23:35Speaker 2: That's exactly what I'm talking about. They manifested the answers.
- 1:23:38Speaker 4: I mean, I do believe in manifesting. I do believe
- 1:23:41Speaker 4: in putting it out there. There's nothing wrong with it.
- 1:23:43Speaker 2: No, nothing.
- 1:23:44Speaker 4: So it's like, and she manifested that she'd be rich
- 1:23:47Speaker 4: as fuck and she got rich as fuck. She was
- 1:23:50Speaker 4: able to buy an expensive house. She was able to
- 1:23:52Speaker 4: buy her Chanel bags. She's doing fine. She doesn't appear
- 1:23:56Speaker 4: to be in debt. She got to be on Real
- 1:23:58Speaker 4: Housewives of Beverly Hills.
- 1:23:59Speaker 2: She wanted to be famous. She's famous.
- 1:24:01Speaker 4: Might not be the kind of fame she wanted, but
- 1:24:05Speaker 4: if people are still kind of curious and like going,
- 1:24:07Speaker 4: I'll do her course.
- 1:24:09Speaker 2: Let's just see what happens.
- 1:24:10Speaker 4: I mean, women are just so desperate for any kind
- 1:24:13Speaker 4: of like quick fix to love or whatever.
- 1:24:16Speaker 5: I will do a little warning though for people. Now
- 1:24:19Speaker 5: you are a very strong manifester. And the last time
- 1:24:24Speaker 5: we were with you, from golfing on, you pretty much manifested,
- 1:24:29Speaker 5: you were manifesting birds out of the sky, deer, families.
- 1:24:34Speaker 5: But then it's like, you know, then you start to
- 1:24:36Speaker 5: depend on the manifestor. And this is why, you know,
- 1:24:38Speaker 5: people turn on Amanda. You start to depend on the
- 1:24:41Speaker 5: manifestor to manifest what you want them to.
- 1:24:43Speaker 2: And then at the end of the night, it's like, well,
- 1:24:46Speaker 2: I mean.
- 1:24:48Speaker 2: You know, we were trying to get, you know.
- 1:24:50Speaker 4: We went to dinner and we were manifesting like something
- 1:24:52Speaker 4: fun to happen and nothing did.
- 1:24:53Speaker 6: No.
- 1:24:55Speaker 2: And I was like, why did we even go out
- 1:24:56Speaker 2: to dinner?
- 1:24:57Speaker 4: We should have totally stayed home.
- 1:24:59Speaker 2: We were manifesting anything just exciting, some kind of, maybe
- 1:25:02Speaker 2: we just weren't specific enough.
- 1:25:04Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:25:05Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm like so happy in my life. I'm not
- 1:25:07Speaker 2: asking for anything. Sometimes you are.
- 1:25:10Speaker 4: I'm not even.
- 1:25:10Speaker 2: Asking for anything. And you have to be specific. Yeah.
- 1:25:13Speaker 2: You just, you. Okay, I'll stop piling onto Amanda. Yeah, please.
- 1:25:18Speaker 2: But I just, you know. But anyway, girls, let me
- 1:25:22Speaker 2: see if there's anything else. Okay, what do you think?
- 1:25:25Speaker 2: We'll end on this.
- 1:25:26Speaker 4: So yesterday, Michael Jordan, I guess he owns the car,
- 1:25:32Speaker 4: but the race car driver's family won or something.
- 1:25:35Speaker 2: And the kid, so they won some big thing together,
- 1:25:39Speaker 2: Michael Jordan.
- 1:25:39Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:25:40Speaker 4: And the kid was right next to him. And Michael Jordan,
- 1:25:44Speaker 4: at the time that they won, grabbed his butt. He
- 1:25:48Speaker 4: couldn't have been— he' s not even 10.
- 1:25:50Speaker 2: He's probably like 9.
- 1:25:51Speaker 4: Grabbed his butt a bunch of times, squeezed his little
- 1:25:53Speaker 4: tush to get his attention because they won.
- 1:25:57Speaker 2: Like, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then, like, touched his
- 1:25:59Speaker 2: bare leg because he was wearing shorts. And it went viral.
- 1:26:03Speaker 4: They've talked to the dad of him, and he's like,
- 1:26:07Speaker 4: I've known Michael Jordan's family for years. We're all really
- 1:26:09Speaker 4: good friends. I— I don't think there's anything nefarious going on.
- 1:26:13Speaker 2: I understand why people might see it that way. I
- 1:26:15Speaker 2: just don't. We're all good. What is your opinion? Did
- 1:26:20Speaker 2: you see it?
- 1:26:21Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:26:21Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:26:23Speaker 5: I don't think there was anything nefarious going on. I
- 1:26:26Speaker 5: will say, though, that I can only handle watching it
- 1:26:29Speaker 5: like twice. It made me really uncomfortable. But with that said,
- 1:26:35Speaker 5: I don't think he meant it that way.
- 1:26:38Speaker 2: I don't know what he was thinking. I just don't
- 1:26:40Speaker 2: know what he was thinking.
- 1:26:41Speaker 7: Like, I guess if your family's close and you, I
- 1:26:44Speaker 7: just don't know. I couldn't, I was like, what the fuck?
- 1:26:47Speaker 4: I mean, the only thing I can think of is
- 1:26:49Speaker 4: I remember like growing up, people would always be, there
- 1:26:52Speaker 4: was something that they were like, I saw something, you know,
- 1:26:55Speaker 4: where people were like old people would like take a
- 1:26:57Speaker 4: child's cheek and pinch their cheeks or whatever.
- 1:26:59Speaker 2: And I remember we were going to go like.
- 1:27:01Speaker 4: See some old relative of mine and I'm like, I
- 1:27:03Speaker 4: don't want them to pinch my cheek.
- 1:27:05Speaker 7: Yep.
- 1:27:06Speaker 2: And my mom's like, what?
- 1:27:07Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, don't old people like pinch like
- 1:27:09Speaker 4: fat cheeks or whatever.
- 1:27:11Speaker 2: And so I do feel.
- 1:27:12Speaker 4: That there is something where someone is like, give me
- 1:27:17Speaker 4: that tushy or like hugging that.
- 1:27:19Speaker 2: And like, it's not sexual. Yes.
- 1:27:22Speaker 4: You would think in this day and age, like you
- 1:27:25Speaker 4: would definitely be made aware of it and be a
- 1:27:27Speaker 4: Keanu Reeves that like is like this. But maybe, maybe
- 1:27:31Speaker 4: he just hadn't ever thought of it. And he was
- 1:27:33Speaker 4: like trying to get his attention. And he was just like,
- 1:27:36Speaker 4: and chose to grab his butt cheek instead of like
- 1:27:39Speaker 4: his shoulder. Right.
- 1:27:40Speaker 2: There was like a little of a pulling of the
- 1:27:42Speaker 2: shirt too, which made me think, okay, well maybe.
- 1:27:43Speaker 5: People were saying he had ice or water down his
- 1:27:46Speaker 5: shirt because they had dumped an ice bucket.
- 1:27:47Speaker 2: There was something with his shirt that I was like, oh,
- 1:27:49Speaker 2: he's not trying to just.
- 1:27:51Speaker 5: They dumped it on the dad because of winning the race.
- 1:27:54Speaker 5: And it was a huge race, like whatever it was.
- 1:27:57Speaker 2: I thought that too.
- 1:27:57Speaker 7: They're like, give me that tushy. But I don't think the,
- 1:28:00Speaker 7: he just seemed like he was doing some dude shit.
- 1:28:02Speaker 7: With the shirt and then trying to get his attention
- 1:28:04Speaker 7: and stuff.
- 1:28:04Speaker 2: I just remember my dad in church. He used to like...
- 1:28:09Speaker 2: Like to like take our little ears and like rub
- 1:28:11Speaker 2: them like this. That's cute. But I didn't really like it.
- 1:28:15Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like as a kid... No.
- 1:28:19Speaker 2: That's the thing. It's like you almost.
- 1:28:22Speaker 4: I remember the first time I saw this thing, baby
- 1:28:25Speaker 4: massage or whatever. And I like had this woman come
- 1:28:28Speaker 4: to my house about how to give Drake a baby massage.
- 1:28:30Speaker 2: Whatever, something weird. And when she told me how to
- 1:28:34Speaker 2: do the.
- 1:28:34Speaker 4: Baby massage, I mean, he was literally a baby. She said, like,
- 1:28:39Speaker 4: you're supposed to be like, even though it's a baby, like,
- 1:28:41Speaker 4: may I touch you here? Well, I mean, he couldn't
- 1:28:44Speaker 4: say yes or no.
- 1:28:45Speaker 2: I don't know. I just feel like... Hello. I feel like...
- 1:28:49Speaker 2: Can I massage your shovel, Deuce? I feel like it's
- 1:28:52Speaker 2: such a weird place to be now. It is your kid. Well,
- 1:28:55Speaker 2: now it's a very weird place to be. It is
- 1:28:56Speaker 2: your kid and all of that and I didn't.
- 1:28:59Speaker 4: Hate it, but I didn't love my earlobe being touched.
- 1:29:04Speaker 2: I don't think any kids do. I don't know. I
- 1:29:06Speaker 2: had that too. I remember my, I think like my
- 1:29:09Speaker 2: butt being pinched a few times.
- 1:29:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:29:12Speaker 2: Like, I don't want you touching me.
- 1:29:14Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:29:14Speaker 2: But where, you know, just like anyone sees a baby,
- 1:29:17Speaker 2: you want to kiss the cheeks.
- 1:29:18Speaker 4: I do remember one time my mom was like, like
- 1:29:21Speaker 4: trying to like grab Drake and like be silly with him.
- 1:29:25Speaker 4: And I don't know why it stressed me out so much,
- 1:29:28Speaker 4: but like, he was like, Like, no, like kind of
- 1:29:31Speaker 4: rude about whatever.
- 1:29:33Speaker 2: And then I felt this weird thing. Like I wait,
- 1:29:36Speaker 2: be nice to my mom.
- 1:29:37Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:29:38Speaker 4: But I think it was cause she had like long
- 1:29:39Speaker 4: nails and somehow she sort of like inadvertently scratched him.
- 1:29:42Speaker 2: I remember it like yesterday.
- 1:29:44Speaker 4: And I remember it being just a really weird place
- 1:29:45Speaker 4: to be because I thought he was being disrespectful. But
- 1:29:48Speaker 4: then I was also like, understood where he was coming from,
- 1:29:51Speaker 4: but I felt bad for my mom because she was
- 1:29:53Speaker 4: like trying to connect. And I also knew like, how
- 1:29:56Speaker 4: many years left do I have with my parents? Like,
- 1:29:59Speaker 4: it was just, it's just a weird, it's weird.
- 1:30:01Speaker 2: Yeah. It's completely weird.
- 1:30:02Speaker 7: And if it's not your own kid though, I mean,
- 1:30:04Speaker 7: at this point, right now, In this moment, even if
- 1:30:07Speaker 7: it's right now, stop and go, you know what?
- 1:30:09Speaker 2: With everything in the world and what we- Don't.
- 1:30:11Speaker 7: Touch other people's kids. Let's just not touch other people's kids.
- 1:30:14Speaker 7: Let's just, I don't care if.
- 1:30:15Speaker 4: You- And be mindful of how you touch your own.
- 1:30:18Speaker 2: And be mindful how you touch your own.
- 1:30:19Speaker 5: Ask you if you can give them a baby massage
- 1:30:22Speaker 5: before you go, it's getting hot in here.
- 1:30:25Speaker 2: You made him take off all your clothes. What she's
- 1:30:28Speaker 2: talking about is that song.
- 1:30:30Speaker 4: Was playing when Drake was little. And so every morning
- 1:30:33Speaker 4: when I'd take him out of his little- or change
- 1:30:36Speaker 4: him in his onesie, I would say, and I'd unsnap
- 1:30:40Speaker 4: the thing, it's getting.
- 1:30:41Speaker 2: Hot in here. Take off all your clothes. I am
- 1:30:45Speaker 2: so hot. I gotta take my clothes off.
- 1:30:49Speaker 5: He's at this point doing a full striptease.
- 1:30:51Speaker 2: But we're asking if we can massage him. And he's
- 1:30:53Speaker 2: wondering why he loves that song. We don't stop singing
- 1:30:56Speaker 2: it to Drake. This is a sad day. Did we
- 1:31:01Speaker 2: break the news to everybody?
- 1:31:03Speaker 4: But there isn't any big news because you're still going
- 1:31:05Speaker 4: to get to see and get all your content of
- 1:31:09Speaker 4: Brandy and Julie. They'll just be doing it in a
- 1:31:10Speaker 4: different state while they do the theater arts. Explain everybody
- 1:31:17Speaker 4: to everybody where your show is going.
- 1:31:22Speaker 1: Oh, all right.
- 1:31:23Speaker 7: So we are leaving on Friday and going to Minneapolis
- 1:31:28Speaker 7: to the Hollywood Theater tonight. Um, for nightmare on strip
- 1:31:31Speaker 7: street where we will be doing it for a month. Uh,
- 1:31:35Speaker 7: you can go to nightmare and strip street.com and Heather
- 1:31:38Speaker 7: saw it.
- 1:31:38Speaker 2: You loved it. So good. Um, and so we'll be
- 1:31:42Speaker 2: in Minneapolis. You can take anybody.
- 1:31:44Speaker 4: It's a little sexy, but nothing that like, too embarrassing
- 1:31:49Speaker 4: for anybody, I don't think. Like, so you could take,
- 1:31:52Speaker 4: you know, friends, husband, you know, I think people should
- 1:31:56Speaker 4: be 18.
- 1:31:58Speaker 2: But that's it. And that is a rule. Oh, okay.
- 1:32:00Speaker 2: But other than that, like, totally great.
- 1:32:02Speaker 7: And especially for the people in Minneapolis right now, it's
- 1:32:05Speaker 7: freezing cold and you've been through a lot.
- 1:32:07Speaker 2: So it's going to be a very good, like, respite,
- 1:32:10Speaker 2: just fun. Great music, great dancing, great comedy. Just a
- 1:32:14Speaker 2: good time for everyone.
- 1:32:15Speaker 6: Yes.
- 1:32:16Speaker 5: And if you like liberal politics, you can follow us,
- 1:32:19Speaker 5: Dumb Gay Politics Podcast.
- 1:32:21Speaker 2: Free everywhere.
- 1:32:22Speaker 5: And then we also have a Patreon if you don't
- 1:32:25Speaker 5: want to hear politics because we don't do any politics there.
- 1:32:28Speaker 2: On the Patreon, which we'll be doing from Minneapolis, so
- 1:32:30Speaker 2: it'll be all of our travel episodes. Those are always
- 1:32:32Speaker 2: so funny. So it should be pretty fun. And of course,
- 1:32:35Speaker 2: we'll miss you.
- 1:32:37Speaker 4: I mean, maybe if there's time, we can try to
- 1:32:40Speaker 4: do something on a Riverside or a Zoom.
- 1:32:43Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:32:44Speaker 4: But you guys are going to be busy. But then
- 1:32:48Speaker 4: when you come back, it's going to be full-on fun.
- 1:32:51Speaker 2: Full-on.
- 1:32:52Speaker 4: Full-on lizard rat fun.
- 1:32:54Speaker 2: Full-on.
- 1:32:55Speaker 4: We have our show May 9th. because you're going to
- 1:33:00Speaker 4: come back at the end of March. Yeah, and then
- 1:33:03Speaker 4: right away we're going to see you. Yeah.
- 1:33:05Speaker 2: Because we have a special fun thing going on. A
- 1:33:08Speaker 2: whole thing we're doing. A whole fun thing we're doing.
- 1:33:10Speaker 2: And then it's going to be nonstop. And then, of course,
- 1:33:14Speaker 2: follow them on Instagram. Say what are your both Instagram.
- 1:33:17Speaker 4: If you have not followed them yet, that's criminal because
- 1:33:19Speaker 4: you have gotten so much fun out of them and they.
- 1:33:22Speaker 2: Are very funny and very cool on their Instagram. So
- 1:33:26Speaker 2: what is it? We're trying. I'm at the Brandy Howard.
- 1:33:29Speaker 2: I'm at Mr. Julie Goldman.
- 1:33:32Speaker 4: And you can see all the things that she likes,
- 1:33:34Speaker 4: like the lesbian love of Portia.
- 1:33:36Speaker 2: And her girlfriend. I love it.
- 1:33:38Speaker 3: I love it.
- 1:33:38Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.
- 1:33:39Speaker 4: And I'm at HeatherMcDowell.net. Join my Patreon. And I will
- 1:33:44Speaker 4: be in Salt Lake City, everybody. I will be in
- 1:33:49Speaker 4: Salt Lake City for shows.
- 1:33:52Speaker 2: Let me just- Wow. Are you going to drink some
- 1:33:53Speaker 2: dirty soda while you're there?
- 1:33:54Speaker 4: I don't even know.
- 1:33:55Speaker 2: I hope so.
- 1:33:55Speaker 4: Oh, I'm going to do- I don't even- Anyway, it's
- 1:33:58Speaker 4: Salt Lake City. It is March 20 and 21, 6
- 1:34:00Speaker 4: and 8.30.
- 1:34:01Speaker 2: So early shows. At the Wise Guys in downtown Salt
- 1:34:09Speaker 2: Lake City.
- 1:34:10Speaker 4: And it's going to be fun and new shit and
- 1:34:13Speaker 4: talking to you guys and gossiping and all the juicy
- 1:34:16Speaker 4: fun that you get when you see Heather McDonald live. HeatherMcDonald.net
- 1:34:21Speaker 4: or go to the Wise Guys site.
- 1:34:22Speaker 2: It's always the best to go to HeatherMcDonald.net though, right? Yes,
- 1:34:26Speaker 2: except it's not there right now. Yeah, just go to there.
- 1:34:29Speaker 2: Don't Google it. Don't go through any kind of ticket place.
- 1:34:32Speaker 2: Go straight from Heather.
- 1:34:33Speaker 5: She gets you the best price and you'll be, you'll be, yeah, heathermcdonald.net
- 1:34:37Speaker 5: is where it's at.
- 1:34:38Speaker 2: Thank you. Love you.
- 1:34:39Speaker 1: Bye.
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